Hello everyone! We wanted to jump here to answer some of the comments that hope it will help :) The height of the catenary cuts and the height of the extended floor fabric is similar to the Hilleberg models. It does look more extreme on the Moa Lite in some angles due to the longer distance between poles. The higher catenary cut in the rear is intended to give the Moa Lite better ventilation. For this reason the ground sheet is extended upwards much higher than on competitors models. This may however be hard to see when the rear is rolled up due to the connection point being half way up the floor fabric. Thus the lower half is compressed down when the inner is pegged to the ground. When connected to the outer tent, the angle pulls the floor upwards and gives 15cm of vertical wall plus another 10 to 15cm of floor fabric on the slanted area. Regarding the risk that the rear pole may be pushed in/down in high winds, there is an extra guy line attachment point in the center of the pole where you may add an extra guy line to counter these forces. It is not included as standard to keep the weight down as the tent has been more than capable to withstand conditions that most people will encounter without the rear line. In harsh conditions we recommend to add an extra guy line, either straight or as a V for maximum strength both at the rear and at the front to further reinforce the already strong construction. Thanks for your comments and feel free to reach out to us with any questions! 😁
Hi, thank you very much for very much answering my comments and that of other comments too. I really appreciate this. It is however disappointing that Outdoors Magic have not responded in any way to my comment in 7 days and I see that other comments are two weeks old without being answered or responded to in any way.. I am an outdoor content creator myself and even when on holiday I still take some time to answer comments in a timely manner... Best wishes Tom
Hello thank you for taking the time to show this tent.. A couple of things that I noticed.. The catenary cut on the fly is really high on the sidewall and at the back quarter of the tent. This exposes the inner to rain and wind.. On the Hilleberg 3 season tents the groundsheet is very high to protect the inner. This doesn't look to be the case here.... Personally I also dont like the angle of that rear pole... When the wind hits the rear of a tunnel tent then it pushes down on the top of the pole and obviously you cannot guy this to support it.. Its ok on a dome tent as you will have crossing poles to strengthen the roof.. The more you crank up the guys at the side then this makes it worse as pulling the pole out at the side flattens it at the top... The angle of the rear pole will allow the wind to really push down on the pole IMO.... as it's angled nearly parallel to the wind and not perpendicular..BUT I suppose it is a 3 season tent after all. Best wishes Tom
Thanks for the message Nigel. Got a few more lined up for the coming weeks. Hopefully should be a bit more regular going forwards. The price tag. Well there are definitely much, much cheaper tents out there, but you're paying for the quality of materials here - and I expect good after sales service too. There are plenty of other tents out there with the same two pole tunnel design for hundreds of pounds less, but the space-to-weight won't be anywhere near as good.
Hi Will! Great video that gives a nice overview of the tent. Thanks for that. I was wondering if you had experience in more harsh weathers. As in how the tent holds up in heavy rain and whether the inner tent keeps dry. It seems that during the high wind situation in your video the outer tent does not completely cover the the inner tent especially in the middle of the tent. Also, you mentioned that the lack of ventilation pockets on top of the outer tent was a con side for you. Have you noticed the ventilation being poor inside, whilst sleeping or so? Thanks in advance. Great video!
I want to see how that back pole handles 50mph, especially with the angle of the guy lines in relation to that posterior leaning back pole. Are the guylines coming off the back pole at a 90 degree angle? This is a really compelling tent, especially if you want to pair it with a tarp. You mention head space but not how tall you are. Thanks
I've not used the Anja, but funnily enough I ran passed one on Mynydd Mawr the other day and had a good look. To the naked eye they seem absolutely identical - and appear so on paper too. The Bach Moa Lite is obviously a little lower in price. I'm going to get my tape measure out this week to see what the Bach dimensions are and can compare to the Anja then (its dimensions are on the Hilleberg website).
Hello everyone! We wanted to jump here to answer some of the comments that hope it will help :)
The height of the catenary cuts and the height of the extended floor fabric is similar to the Hilleberg models. It does look more extreme on the Moa Lite in some angles due to the longer distance between poles. The higher catenary cut in the rear is intended to give the Moa Lite better ventilation. For this reason the ground sheet is extended upwards much higher than on competitors models. This may however be hard to see when the rear is rolled up due to the connection point being half way up the floor fabric. Thus the lower half is compressed down when the inner is pegged to the ground. When connected to the outer tent, the angle pulls the floor upwards and gives 15cm of vertical wall plus another 10 to 15cm of floor fabric on the slanted area.
Regarding the risk that the rear pole may be pushed in/down in high winds, there is an extra guy line attachment point in the center of the pole where you may add an extra guy line to counter these forces. It is not included as standard to keep the weight down as the tent has been more than capable to withstand conditions that most people will encounter without the rear line. In harsh conditions we recommend to add an extra guy line, either straight or as a V for maximum strength both at the rear and at the front to further reinforce the already strong construction.
Thanks for your comments and feel free to reach out to us with any questions! 😁
Hi, thank you very much for very much answering my comments and that of other comments too. I really appreciate this. It is however disappointing that Outdoors Magic have not responded in any way to my comment in 7 days and I see that other comments are two weeks old without being answered or responded to in any way.. I am an outdoor content creator myself and even when on holiday I still take some time to answer comments in a timely manner... Best wishes Tom
Hello thank you for taking the time to show this tent.. A couple of things that I noticed.. The catenary cut on the fly is really high on the sidewall and at the back quarter of the tent. This exposes the inner to rain and wind.. On the Hilleberg 3 season tents the groundsheet is very high to protect the inner. This doesn't look to be the case here.... Personally I also dont like the angle of that rear pole... When the wind hits the rear of a tunnel tent then it pushes down on the top of the pole and obviously you cannot guy this to support it.. Its ok on a dome tent as you will have crossing poles to strengthen the roof.. The more you crank up the guys at the side then this makes it worse as pulling the pole out at the side flattens it at the top... The angle of the rear pole will allow the wind to really push down on the pole IMO.... as it's angled nearly parallel to the wind and not perpendicular..BUT I suppose it is a 3 season tent after all. Best wishes Tom
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Fantastic camping video. Thanks for sharing. 👍25
Hi Will. Great to see you back. Missed your regular reviews. Looks interesting, but does it warrant such a high price tag.
Thanks for the message Nigel. Got a few more lined up for the coming weeks. Hopefully should be a bit more regular going forwards.
The price tag. Well there are definitely much, much cheaper tents out there, but you're paying for the quality of materials here - and I expect good after sales service too. There are plenty of other tents out there with the same two pole tunnel design for hundreds of pounds less, but the space-to-weight won't be anywhere near as good.
Hi Will! Great video that gives a nice overview of the tent. Thanks for that. I was wondering if you had experience in more harsh weathers. As in how the tent holds up in heavy rain and whether the inner tent keeps dry. It seems that during the high wind situation in your video the outer tent does not completely cover the the inner tent especially in the middle of the tent. Also, you mentioned that the lack of ventilation pockets on top of the outer tent was a con side for you. Have you noticed the ventilation being poor inside, whilst sleeping or so?
Thanks in advance. Great video!
I want to see how that back pole handles 50mph, especially with the angle of the guy lines in relation to that posterior leaning back pole. Are the guylines coming off the back pole at a 90 degree angle? This is a really compelling tent, especially if you want to pair it with a tarp.
You mention head space but not how tall you are. Thanks
I came here for the dog.
Just lucky he's able to keep himself occupied with sticks while I prattle on.
BTs are the best 😀
whats your height?
@@DerRentner818 5 foot 10
How does it compare with hilleberg anja?
I've not used the Anja, but funnily enough I ran passed one on Mynydd Mawr the other day and had a good look. To the naked eye they seem absolutely identical - and appear so on paper too. The Bach Moa Lite is obviously a little lower in price.
I'm going to get my tape measure out this week to see what the Bach dimensions are and can compare to the Anja then (its dimensions are on the Hilleberg website).