I always knew that the fight between Frieza and Goku was 5 minutes long, it only appeared longer because the fight was from Goku's and Frieza's perspective.
Toryiama has admitted to the opposite being true actually lol “Oh fans like this? Imma do the opposite” Not saying he doesn’t steal fan ideas either “cough cough Goku black cough cough”
@Ѕhaðow Hυητεг how is Tornament of power relevant to the dragon ball timeline before ressurestion F, or even before the android saga. I was mentioning the fact he told vageta he never needed to put much effort to kill his enemy. Also have you seen legacy of Bardock? In that movie freiza wipes out the whole planet with 1 finger in his chair.
"Why would someone as powerful as Frieza need a hover-chair instead of just flying" idk why do monarchs have luxurious transportation even though they could walk? He fancies himself the emperor of the universe lol
How saiyan achieved super saiyan in dragonball Goku: his best friend died and is filled with rage Vageta: intense training and anger of being left behind goku Gohan: a year of tough training Universe 6: a funny feeling in ur back
The "laser blast" that almost killed Goku was explained within the movie itself. At the beginning of the movie when Goku is training with Whis, Whis points out that Goku has a bad habit of "dropping his guard". Whis was directly referring to how Goku completely powers down once he thinks the fight is over.
@@Shado_Arts904 No, it is literal. In real life, if you are in a fist fight and "drop your guard" you are literally dropping your arms and leaving yourself open to attack. In this movie, Goku literally "drops his guard" by powering down his ki, which makes him more prone to taking damage.
@@djantouahmed7319 We aren't talking about bullets. We are talking about super advanced energy weapons developed by a planet conquering alien military force. It would be pretty safe to assume that laser weapon was at least on par with the ki blasts of some of the weaker members of the Freeza corps, which would be FAR more powerful than any bullet from any gun on Earth. And even going back to the Namek saga, Vegeta was able to drop his guard on purpose to allow Krillin to fatally wound him when we all know that normally, Krillin would never be able to harm Vegeta.
Didn't get the super Saiyan timeline between Goku and the guy before him right. Stopped at that point because it's a major point of DBZ. Think it was just shy of 3 min in.
Seriously. It was never in question that the DBZ movies were part of the canon storyline. Most movies could have only taken place during tiny impossible timeframes. Like Gohan being "pre-Piccolo kidnapping/training" but Krillen knows him, so it could theoretically only take place between the few minutes between Gohan being introduced to everyone on Kame island and Radditz showing up there. I paused after the first one to write this. Are all of CBR's "theories" this moronic and unresearched?
Yea and tacking on that Toiryama doesn't like Gohan much didn't make sense. All in all he probably was just not satisfied with how he had been writing the character.. which makes sense. He probably wanted him to be. Toriyama fucking loved Gohan as seen in the Cell arc and the fact that he was supposed to take over which is why most of the story of when the show made its returned surrounded Gohan so heavily.. just in terrible ways that Toriyama prbably cringes at himself for.
The Ki Armor theory is a great detail in the series when Goku got shot through the chest. A similar type thing happened when Krillin tossed a rock at Goku's face saying that Goku was so strong and invincible that he'd just dodge it. Instead a rock to the face really freaking hurt Goku lol. The best part? The rock toss is also a move in the DBZF game for Krillin. What a nostalgic series!
11:42 that was also said in the frieza saga when vegeta asks krillin to attack him so that dende can heal him and increase his power, he specifically said: "I will lower my defense to the minimum so that you can hurt me" (at least that's what he said in the Spanish version)
I'd imagine that when the stronger fighters stop and talk in show time, the other characters can only see them stop, hear really fast chipmunk voices and then see them begin swatting each other again.
The term "Canon" actually refers to actual historical events recorded in holy books such as The Bible, The Torah, and the Quran. It was later used to refer to events in fiction that are brought up in later sequels. If a book is stand-alone, every event is canon, but if a Movie is... somehow it isn't. Piccolo: "NERD!"
If Goten and Trunks going SSJ killed all the weight achieving that level had then Universe 6 Saiyans completely shattered it. That whole *feel it in your back* shtick was lame af.
I'd always thought that Universe 6 and 7 saiyans were physiologically different in subtle ways, where the saiyans of universe 6 got an easy shortcut due to those subtle biological differences.
"Question..... Do you have a watch?" "No..." "Do you even know what a minute is?" " *OF COURSE I DO!* " "....I don't think you do. You said 5 minutes but that was like, an hour ago."
Toriyama was ABSOLUTELY involved in GT. He helped develop it and approved/rejected story ideas in the first few episodes. He was just burned out and didn’t want to draw DB anymore but knew the fans wanted more. Toei and Bandai didn’t steal the franchise from him in some evil greedy manner, they made a continuation based on what fans thought they wanted at the time. And it was all with Toriyama’s blessing.
@GreenCannon yeah exactly. Gohan was so badass when he had the spotlight. I mean just look at future Gohan (trunks timeline). He was one of the most badass characters in the show. To see him get reduced to yamcha status is just lame.
Then why did Vegeta state 3000 when Goku fought Recoome in the original eng dub? "So, I'm right. After three millennia, a new Super Saiyan has emerged." *inner monologue "And I, the prince of all Saiyans have somehow become this pauper's witness! I'm the only one who understands what he's become, perhaps even better than him..."* "If Kakarot managed to do it, then I should be able to as well. Until then, I'm at his mercy...HE is the strongest Saiyan in the entire universe.."
@@DarthSagius lol, bc the translation that you ppl grew up on was WRONG... Re Watch the series in it's original format to know what they really said thru out the show...
I think Goku got shot because he was recovering, he had no reason to keep his guard up at all (Frieza being clearly hurt) and he got a cheapshot to the back. 11:40
Goku don't need time to recover, I'm quite sure like a well trained athlete he is able to recover in high intense situations... Which leads back to what whis told goku... "He has a tendency to be too relaxed due to his overconfidence" & if that happens "he is setting himself up to fail"
Kazmic Kopa LOL i think you guys didn't realize he wasn't in ssb . he was in his base form tired and injured with his ki guard down.. thats why he got hit......
@@noobgod4591 nope... The answer is, kakarot dropped his guard... He seemed to learn his lesson though from his battle with the revival of frieza. Cause goku seemed to be on guard almost the whole battle in the tournament of power & his stamina was clearly more effected in that battle than what it was against frieza... Just saying.
I think laser affecting too much on goku works in the same way when Vegeta asks Krillin to damage him on Namek, in order to gain a zenkai. Krillin objects that he's not powerful enough to damage him, but Vegeta responds that he would low his ki enough to allow Krillin to do that
My theory for why goku got hurt from that beam in super is if their guard is completely down, they can get hurt from the most minor of things. For example, in dbz, when goku mastered ssj and was relaxing with krillin under a tree, krillin thought he would instantly avoid or catch the small stone he threw at his head before it got near him but because his guard was down, he woke up shouting in pain
@@zoltanz288 he has to be playing along even if they tried it wouldn't be any thing but a tap. Maybe chichi could actually hit him but probably not after Z started. Goku patted her through the house after all.
@@Wzrd8 Hes not playing along, he just doesnt resist. He needs to have his energy up, hes just normal if he doesnt use his energy. Goku patted her trough the house when he was mastering SSJ and had it activated all the time.
I’ve always imagined that to protect there bodies from damage they have to put energy into the area they are about to be hit in which mitigates the damage.
@@Kess_P2 I remember a lot of people really liked him in original Dragonball untill DBZ fucked him over like most human characters. And i think they could make the humans way more powerful since there shouldn't be a reason why they can't learn to control god ki. I mean we saw a bit of jirens race and they didn't seemed to be super special and jiren became a monster , i could see that happening for yamcha aswell....well maybe rather tien at this point.
Jin kisaragi yamcha was just as skilled as tien in dragon ball. So I don’t know why they screwed him in dbz. But I agree about your human point. I think that’s what they kind of tried doing with roshi
Is Goku technically a prince since he married the Ox Kings daughter??? Is Chi-Chi a princess then??? Found out soon, on the next episode, of DragonBall Z. 🤣😂🤣
Wouldn’t having a wife and being a gentle and kind guy like tarble make him have more S cells? So shouldn’t he be really strong or at least have huge potential?
@@ayyyy. I don't think it's power rather it's just ki control, goten was on par with chichi when he achieved super saiyan and chichi although powerful for a regular human isn't even close to goku's strength in frieze arc.
This completely ruins broly though...... The whole entire point of why Broly was the legendary super Saiyan was because he had such intense rage towards Goku and that's why he's also so powerful. So this S cell thing completely ruins that....
10:55 All I can think of is the Abridged Series Imp. Cell: “But now you will become part of me!” (Vacuum sucking noise) “...part of me!” (Another Vacuum sucking noise) “God, what are you, pure metal?!” Android 16: “Affirmative. I am *ANDROID* 16”
11:40 I'd like to point out that we actually got the confirmation decades ago but people seem to forget. Vegeta outright says it to Krillin. During the fight against final form Frieza Vegeta told Krillin to hit him so we could have Dende heal him and use the Zenkai boost. Krillin says there's no way he'd even be able to hurt him and Vegeta specifically says he'll lower his defenses so even Krillin could kill him. We've seen variations of this over the years but that was really the confirmation as to how their durability works and why Krillin who is a full genetic human can be bullet proof. (And if you count the filler it explains how Goku could survive Krillin throwing a rock at him. It was a pretty tough rock.)
Goku hit he’s head when he was a newborn so that makes him nice and if he didn’t hit he’s head he wouldn’t go super. Which makes it pretty unfair to vegeta
The whole Ki armor concept was somewhat confirmed back in the Cell saga, when Krillin throws a rock at a sleeping Goku. It was most likely filler, which is why I say somewhat, but he definitely took some real damage.
Theres also how goku took damage from bullets in super or how hes afraid of needles even though he blocks planet-destroying attacks with his bare hands. They just never explain it like other anime with similar magic systems do.
@@Excalibur5k nah, thats just bad writing, because he tanked bullets as a kid while slept all the time. And he tanked an axe to the head while unaware of what was happening.
About the Ki armor thing, there was actually more evidence of it in DBZ in the 10 days before the Cell Games began. Goku, while still in his super saiyan form from having mastered maintaining it effortlessly, took a nap on the grass when he was hanging out with Krillin and Gohan. Krillin, wanting to test Goku's awareness after being amazed seeing him still a super saiyan even while asleep, threw a rock at him expecting him to zap it into a million pieces with his eyes closed, when in fact it hit Goku right in the forehead waking him up in a lot of pain holding his forehead and understandably upset. His guard was completely down hence why the rock hurt him, just like how his guard was down when he thought he won against Golden Frieza and got badly hurt by that laser.
Yes exactly that's why it looks like we because ssg doesn't change your hair but ss did and those colors make blue then boom super Saiyan God super Saiyan
The only reason King Kai didn't teach the technique to Tien, Yamcha, and Chaotzu was because he knew their bodies would never be able to handle it... I mean look at how far Goku has pushed it and how weakened he was at the end of any fight he uses the Kaioken technique
@@kreiyu You do realise that S-Cells only significantly impacted the plot of Z right? Goten and Trunks were able to turn SSJ so easily because of said S-Cells.
Half saiyans do have more potential then full blooded saiyans but what ends up making them weaker is they eventually lose interest in fighting so they quit training... Examples are 1.Gohan in the saiyaman saga 2.Gohan in db super 3. Gohan, Goten, and Trunks in dbgt
@@jakovhrga5619 if being " bEiNg pArT hUmAn mAkEs yOu sTrOnGeR," why are Krillin, Tien,Yamcha, and Chiaotzu complete jokes to Goku and Vegeta? Given that those four are human?. 🙄
You could think of this theory. Perhaps 16 was built to be peaceful, but Gero's hatred towards Goku imprinted on Android 16, thus his only objective was to kill Goku because 16 knew how much his father wanted to kill Goku.
What if, the golden haired ssj is not ACTUALLY ssj. Consider this, when vegeta in the ginyu saga talked about super saiyans, we saw a image of a great ape-like figure with a gold glow terrorising a planet. And what gold aura covered great ape do we see in GT? Golden great ape. Don’t believe me? Vegeta has also said or referenced a ssj being heartless and merciless. And what is the downside to gold great ape? It’s extremely difficult to control. What if, each ssj form was a omen, like ui sign of ssj? That’s why ssj3 and 4 both extend the user’s hair. As it’s more hair, that could turn into fur as a ggp. And you need to break through the merciless form, you get ssj4. People say that ssj must be unlocked through rage, but to maintain it, you must be calm afterwards. Otherwise, you will flicker in and out of the form like a dying lightbulb. Ssj 4 is required to quell rage, yet maintain it in a calm state. Just like ssj4. Final thing, if a “pure heart” is also required, ssj4 would make more sense as a pure hearted version. As of which why it maintains fur and hair across the body. To conclude, maybe ssj great ape is the REAL ssj. While as I said ssj4 is the version for good saiyans.
I have NEVER had a problem with the whole “Goku hit by a laser” thing. He was totally off guard and had no idea the guy was even there, more so he was very weak. People seem to have a very high level of cherry picking what is and isn’t okay. So everyone is of the idea these guys have 100% protecting armor on all the time, but Trunks cutting people with his sword and for that matter Goku having to use an aura to block it is okay? By the logic people use, Goku should use be able to stand there and Trunk’s sword not even touching if not shatter. Anyone remember the part before the cell games when Krillin threw a rock at a resting SSJ Goku think just what everyone else thought and nailed him in the head?
That doesn't explain why Goku... when he was a kid was shot by Bulma and received no damage ( when he had no knowledge of ki) and later in Super got hurt by getting shot by some bandits
Guys. There is no point in trying to explain it. Even if it was possible because Goku was "off-guard", why was he "off-guard" to begin with? He can move faster than 20x the speed of light but missed that measly lazer? Bullets didn't do anything to him when he was a child (a million times weaker) and KI wasn't a thing back then. Dragon Ball Super is just lazy writing from start to finish and complete bullshit.
For the last theory, Tarble was actually mentioned in the filler episodes that lead up to the Tournament of Power, when Bulma suggests they make Tarble one of the condensers for the tournament.
Figured somebody should tell you since nobody else did. There's actually no filler in DBS because the anime is it's own source material. The manga cannon/story is completely separate from the anime. This has already been confirmed just do a quick Google search lol
@@christineanderson699 Can someone explain to me what the hell "filler" means to this series and why it seems to use an entirely different definition than literally any other? Literally everywhere else, "filler" is an episode that doesn't contribute to advancing the overall plot, but is still canon regardless. Yet here, people seem to use it to mean "it was made up for the anime so it doesn't really happpen".
@@BJGvideos I always thought that filler was something that didn't happen in the source material (e.g. the Bount arc in Bleach or the arc with the kid who got nine tails chakra put into him before Hidan and Kakazu showed up to kill Asuma in Naruto Shippuden)
2) The real issue to Frieza's 5 minutes is because the anime caught up to the manga, so for the manga to get ahead of the anime again, the SSJ Goku VS Frieza was greatly extended, and Goku is a Rough Saiyan. 3) I think you misunderstood "Good Saiyans have more S-Cells than Rough Saiyans." This was referring to the fact that Universe 6 Saiyans, also known as Good Saiyans, have more S-Cells than Universe 7 Saiyans, also known as Rough Saiyans. BTW, Goku is a Rough Saiyan since he's a Saiyan from Universe 7. Also "after a 100 years" That's actually 1000 years. 13) Although the Ki Armor is probably true, why the rifle beam was able to penetrate Goku was not because the Ki Armor was weak but because Goku let his guard down. Some foreshadowing for this is when earlier in the Saga/Movie, Whis warned Goku that he lets his guard down too frequently because Goku is overconfident. Another example is in Dragon Ball Super when Goku was taking on some trugs and one of them shoots Goku in the arm. The bullet left a bruise. Another even earlier of Goku getting hurt because of letting his guard down, this time from the Cell Saga, is when Krillin through a pebble at SSJ Goku, expecting Goku to catch it, yet the pebble hits Goku's forehead, leaving a bruise, and visually causes Goku a lot of pain.
3) Being good or bad doesn't influence the ammount of S Cells, living a peacefull life does, for example: Future Gohan is a good person but couldn't get his power to increase that much while training, unlike the Gohan of the current timeline did at an early age, due to the chaotic future, Gohan couldn't live a peacefull life to develope enough S Cells.
Letting his guard down has never mattered before. He's been hit with bullets and blasts while out of guard before and it never pierced his body. That's the issue fans had with it. That whole Resurrection F movie had a lot of inconsistencies. Friezas "my power level could reach 1.5 million!!" thing made a lot of people scratch their heads.
Thank you for validating Cauliflas practical description of what actually happens during SSJ. People seem to love the metaphysical, when every amazing feat has its technical attributes. Imagine having to describe how to perform a magic card trick. That's basically what she did.
Nope it's cause humans have more emotions and is more kind. The more kind a saiyan the stronger, it's the S-cells when Goku turned ss it was cause he got so emotional when Krillin died his C-sells got higer or something and he turned ss
The big thing people forget about the five minutes thing is Frieza extended his estimate midfight... he comments how Namek is "a tough old bird" and gave it more time.
I always kinda just saw Frieza's time estimate as just that, a spitball number that has very little actual predictive power. Never really saw how he could be such an authority on the geological composition of the Namekian Core, even if he was in the business of selling planets wholesale.
I'm still confused how my man Goku went ultra instinct 3 times, then he fucking masters it out of no where. God's could spend their entire lives without mastering it but my man does it in less than 30 minutes.
@@bigpoppa1014 Its literally cuz of Gohan dropping him on his head as a child. Since hes kind of slow it helps him naturally not think when hes fighting. He just reacts. And that's the secret to UI
“ a dumb little laser” Isn’t a laser focused light/energy? So what’s a kamehameha? Unicorn farts? Seems to me that a ‘silly little laser’ would be just as bad as any energy blast. Granted the source of that energy is high enough to penetrate the ‘ki armor’ you mentioned...
"It's hard to know when the word Canon came into being" No it isn't, it literally was created to differentiate between what was considered the "true" bible scriptures and what wasn't. Biblical canon is literally where it began. Do these guys even do research before making these videos?
4:50 Bringing Goku back for a more 'satisfying' ending?! Ex--f******-cuse you! Sincerely, Every Gohan fan out there Honestly now, I found Gohan's character much more profound than Goku's. Same with Vegeta. Gohan and Vegeta both struggled with their own inner darkness in their own way, where as Goku was always a predictable fight loving innocent knucklehead. You could always count on Goku to get a power-up and save the day but you never truly know when Gohan or V-man just snap.
@@dub1958 I think we have seen the same video. Isn't Gohan the more reactive one though ? Goku is active he makes stuff go down so that the story can move forward Gohan always needs to get pushed before he does anything.
@@jaherra2567 Goku is absolutely dumb. His level of dumbness can't even let him be cautious. I really like Goku, but the plot armor is unbearable. I mean, everything is about Goku and his personality is one of a 6 year old kid. Other characters barely have their moments without Goku having to be in the spotlight, absolutely annoying. S-cells is just another bullshit excuse for Goku to be stronger than Vegeta... I mean, Toriyama is not very fond of vegeta, that's the real reason he always makes him the weaker one. Knowing that, I ain't listening to no s-cells bullshit xD
Gohan was the most popular character at one point and that was when he became ssj2. He was more reliable than goku but ultimately goku is the main character and death has always been a joke in dbz
@@HipnikDragomirExactly and a here's a fun fact: SSJ God design would be very similar to SSJ4 but Akira doesn't like the transformation because it's design is very complex and hard to draw, so he just made Goku with a different hair color, SSJ, Blue, Orange Piccolo, Golden Frieza are all recolors because of that
NCR4EVER2010 Official-UA-cam it is called “Dragon Ball Super” now. And before that it was called “Dragon Ball”. The only one that never existed was “Dragon Ball Z” as the “Z” was just meant to be a reference to the rebranding the anime got after the 23rd martial arts tournament. The manga just continued to be plain good old “Dragon Ball”. But yeah, these CBR guys are not fans indeed.
@@carlosvidal6663 True. He may have seen an episode or two but he's just reading a script somebody else wrote who probably just researched for an hour or two.
As a kid both times Gohan went SSJ2 he was injured. First time in the time chamber when Goku witnessed it he was more exhausted then injured and then when he fought Cell. So with that being said how strong was this kid and it also makes your wonder how much power he really lost leading up to the buy saga.
I mean it was filler for Z during the other world tournament, but Goku def used the Kaioken with Super Saiyan during his fight with Pikkon. Hence reason it was called Super Kaioken.
So I have a question: we can all agree S-cells are required to become super saiyan. What I can’t agree with is kindness is what produces said cells. If this is so why can’t they do a spirit bomb while still a SS. In the show it was explained you would need to be pure of heart or something. They said that SS gives of malicious energy there for they can not do the spirit bomb. If SS is basically made up of kind hearted energy, why can’t they do the Spirit bomb
I've always thought it was interesting that the two things that have ever killed goku have been piccolos special beam cannon and cell. Piccolo's attack and Cell were specifically designed to kill Goku. I've always thought that Gero and Piccolo somehow found a key weakness in Goku that's never been explained. Maybe some kind of way to break through his key armor.
Special Beam Cannon was made as a piercing weapon, its why it takes him so long to charge it up so that he can condense it all. As for Cells explosion, I imagine just because it was such a massive amount of energy? Can't really say much else about that one!
I always knew that the fight between Frieza and Goku was 5 minutes long, it only appeared longer because the fight was from Goku's and Frieza's perspective.
Well logically the fight should be 10 minutes
Brennen Myers Plus there was other stuff going on while they were fighting
I think it was 5 minutes on frieza's home world
But they were talking during the fight why would they talk in hyper speed.
@@pokevictor564 Plot.
Akira Toriyama probably hears a fan Theory that sounds cool and is like um yea sure thats true
Hahahaha... Like,
Toriyama: mmm interesting.... I mean yeah sure thats true.
Probably, dude is a hack
I know, isnt he great?
Toryiama has admitted to the opposite being true actually lol
“Oh fans like this? Imma do the opposite”
Not saying he doesn’t steal fan ideas either “cough cough Goku black cough cough”
The J.K Rowling approach
"Why does Frieza need a hover chair if he's so powerful?"
To flex
"Fan theorized that he was naturally poweful" bruh he said he never lifted more than a finger in a fight before
@Ѕhaðow Hυητεг how is Tornament of power relevant to the dragon ball timeline before ressurestion F, or even before the android saga. I was mentioning the fact he told vageta he never needed to put much effort to kill his enemy. Also have you seen legacy of Bardock? In that movie freiza wipes out the whole planet with 1 finger in his chair.
Also: rich, arrogant asshole
Frieza in the Hoverboard is straight up gangsta !
Yes to flex
The biggest obstacle keeping a character from reaching a new power level: Toriyama doesn't like you
Remember Launch? Toriyama didn't.
@Modify - RBLX you got the joke but missed it at the same time
Like some dragon quest characters 👀
Well what the hell did Yamcha do after Dragon Ball, fuck Toriyama's wife, mother and sister? DAMN but he got screwed over.
Nah he gave Vegeta some new forms and he doesn't like him
I'm ok with Goku being the main character (it is about him after all) but Vegeta needs 1 major win. Just one..
AdultToons true he get dunked on all the time
True, i think his biggest win probably was humiliating 19
Sad thing is that vegeta got humilated shortly after by 18 so his win prior couldnt even feel major
and nah his biggest win is elimination the only candidate for god of destruction
@@icedelrosario5143 didnt see super
"Why would someone as powerful as Frieza need a hover-chair instead of just flying"
idk why do monarchs have luxurious transportation even though they could walk? He fancies himself the emperor of the universe lol
It's for fanciness and respect and also to flex on everyone else.
@@yes-j9r ye
I was thinking that.
Because he dropped his power level so low that he lost abilities.
Precisely, I could go up to the tv and turn it on, but why do that when I have a remote? Hahaha
10:40: 16 was just gentle and he didn't meant to hurt anyone or anything
16: (in his tfs voice) Except Goku
Astral Black that’s exactly what i was thinking 😂
Hahahaha l was thinking that too
Did someone say Goku!?
@@JadenT_VA calm down 16 he is not here
tigersebel BUT I HEARD SOMEONE SAY GOKU
How saiyan achieved super saiyan in dragonball
Goku: his best friend died and is filled with rage
Vageta: intense training and anger of being left behind goku
Gohan: a year of tough training
Universe 6: a funny feeling in ur back
My back snapped in two.
Guess I’ll achieve SSJ3 now.
Goten and trunks: it was boring training at the level before
no one toriyama: WHat is Plot AmoR
My spinal cord just got shattered. I’m officially MUI
@@Ali-iq2yp Mixed urinary incontinence????????
Goku: "I'mma add Kaio Ken to Super Saiyan blue"
His body: "THATS A LOT OF DAMAGE!!!"
CharizardCommander
Kaio ken plus super saiyan blue
Goku a body: (chuckles) I’m in danger
@@mikiz1136Goku: "Kaio Ken+SSBlue?" Goku's body: "Oh no, baby what is you doin?"
Lol
😂😂
Not the first time using Kaioken with supersaiyan tho. He used it in the fight with pikkon in other world
I like how TFS handled Tarble
"I have an uncle?!?"
"You HAD an uncle"
Funny thing is he is still alive in the tfs universe, since vegeta actually did hit santa's sleigh
@@casuallectures2655 there is no tfs universe you're dumb
@Soap Is Our Friend r/whooosh
@@conchetumadre8160 r/wooosh
@@conchetumadre8160 ummmmm... Okay? If you dont like them then why make a comment on a comment that has something to do with tfs
THEORY: my hair isn't turning gray...I am now 'achieving' ultra-instinct
Ialliac years of wisdom and martial arts
Gonna throw my shoe at an older person and see if they can dodge
@@pugwhisperer6502
What happened?
big brain
Come again?
The "laser blast" that almost killed Goku was explained within the movie itself. At the beginning of the movie when Goku is training with Whis, Whis points out that Goku has a bad habit of "dropping his guard". Whis was directly referring to how Goku completely powers down once he thinks the fight is over.
That's what he said but dropping ur guard like what u said is figurative speech not literally
@@Shado_Arts904 No, it is literal. In real life, if you are in a fist fight and "drop your guard" you are literally dropping your arms and leaving yourself open to attack.
In this movie, Goku literally "drops his guard" by powering down his ki, which makes him more prone to taking damage.
As a kid Goku could tanks bullets even with his guard drop. Go and rewatch dragon ball.
@@djantouahmed7319 We aren't talking about bullets. We are talking about super advanced energy weapons developed by a planet conquering alien military force.
It would be pretty safe to assume that laser weapon was at least on par with the ki blasts of some of the weaker members of the Freeza corps, which would be FAR more powerful than any bullet from any gun on Earth.
And even going back to the Namek saga, Vegeta was able to drop his guard on purpose to allow Krillin to fatally wound him when we all know that normally, Krillin would never be able to harm Vegeta.
It’s also explained the the canon version of the arc that was based on the movie.
“Get real mad and then your a blond”
Well it worked for launch🤷♂️
Edit: I know she sneezes first it’s a *JOKE*
Best comment I have seen today. 😂😂😂🤣
The Alaskan Nomad thanks
@@jameswigfalljr5140 honestly Launch was my favorite character. then just Poof, she's gone because her Creator forgot all about her. FeelsBadMan
Toriel the motherly monster yeah it sucks
Negative she didnt have to get mad she sneezed.
"confirmed"
*doesnt actually confirm some of them*
This video is riddled with fake facts because they don't expect most of us to know better or fact check. This channel is disgusting
Didn't get the super Saiyan timeline between Goku and the guy before him right. Stopped at that point because it's a major point of DBZ. Think it was just shy of 3 min in.
Seriously. It was never in question that the DBZ movies were part of the canon storyline. Most movies could have only taken place during tiny impossible timeframes.
Like Gohan being "pre-Piccolo kidnapping/training" but Krillen knows him, so it could theoretically only take place between the few minutes between Gohan being introduced to everyone on Kame island and Radditz showing up there. I paused after the first one to write this. Are all of CBR's "theories" this moronic and unresearched?
-Watch my playlists- what more an you expect from CBR?
Davonti Howard your disgusting
So how did piccolo go from being his second favorite character to an afterthought?
Gohan buh toriyama contradicts himself 95% of the time
Yea and tacking on that Toiryama doesn't like Gohan much didn't make sense. All in all he probably was just not satisfied with how he had been writing the character.. which makes sense. He probably wanted him to be. Toriyama fucking loved Gohan as seen in the Cell arc and the fact that he was supposed to take over which is why most of the story of when the show made its returned surrounded Gohan so heavily.. just in terrible ways that Toriyama prbably cringes at himself for.
Toyotaro is writing super not toriama
@Dachpanther why? Because that half ass new form??? Don't even remember making this comment 2 years ago hope everyone is doing well
@@kuzregoistgold toyotaro writes the manga and toriama writes the anime
The Ki Armor theory is a great detail in the series when Goku got shot through the chest. A similar type thing happened when Krillin tossed a rock at Goku's face saying that Goku was so strong and invincible that he'd just dodge it. Instead a rock to the face really freaking hurt Goku lol. The best part? The rock toss is also a move in the DBZF game for Krillin. What a nostalgic series!
"What the hell are you made of, pure metal?"
"Affirmative. I am *Android* 16."
"Oh... mistakes have been made."
LEMME DRINK YOU!
11:42 that was also said in the frieza saga when vegeta asks krillin to attack him so that dende can heal him and increase his power, he specifically said: "I will lower my defense to the minimum so that you can hurt me" (at least that's what he said in the Spanish version)
Whenever the fight is shown from a weaker fighter's perspective it's too fast for them to see..
The plot often covers this.
I'd imagine that when the stronger fighters stop and talk in show time, the other characters can only see them stop, hear really fast chipmunk voices and then see them begin swatting each other again.
@@Crimsonnavyking That is absolutely hilarious haha
The term "Canon" actually refers to actual historical events recorded in holy books such as The Bible, The Torah, and the Quran. It was later used to refer to events in fiction that are brought up in later sequels. If a book is stand-alone, every event is canon, but if a Movie is... somehow it isn't.
Piccolo: "NERD!"
I was gonna say something along these lines. But you beat me to it.
Canonical
There's nothing nerdy or smart about common knowledge, stop being so up your own ass idiot.
@@miratamamo9331 someone clearly can't take a joke and never watched TFS
@@KageMH fuck TFS
Who else is really happy that dragon ball super broly is a Canon movie? I hope we see him in the new dragon ball series.
I know I sure as hell am happy
But he’s too over powered to be canon
@@foreverloving5565 escanor: *And Who Decided That?*
Connor Broly himself 😂
Connor That be a good fight. I think broly Might win but I’m not sure
If Goten and Trunks going SSJ killed all the weight achieving that level had then Universe 6 Saiyans completely shattered it.
That whole *feel it in your back* shtick was lame af.
I so fucking agree.
The worst part is that Goten and Trunks were made as joke characters.
@@twoocean8012 wasn't aware of this. Assuming it's true, why?
Frizzurd there not annoying brats
I'd always thought that Universe 6 and 7 saiyans were physiologically different in subtle ways, where the saiyans of universe 6 got an easy shortcut due to those subtle biological differences.
"Question..... Do you have a watch?"
"No..."
"Do you even know what a minute is?"
" *OF COURSE I DO!* "
"....I don't think you do. You said 5 minutes but that was like, an hour ago."
U actually did the TFS reffrence u mad lad
How old are you guys? Just wondering
@@tamez214 15
Do you know how much time passes when your going above the speed of light?
Ahhhh abridged
Just sneeze then boom you are a Super Saiyan only true fans understand this
Man fuck super
Lunch ftw!!
Launch🤣
Oh launch
Launch 🤣🤣😂
Toriyama: Movies aren’t canon
Also Toriyama: dragon ball super broly
Yeah, because he wanted to make that Canon, only better.
Yes I know I was making a joke
@@greenchair8206 your joke sucks
Lonk Ok your opinion
@@greenchair8206 bro you joke isn't the best but I will support you on trying to get better
Toriyama was ABSOLUTELY involved in GT. He helped develop it and approved/rejected story ideas in the first few episodes. He was just burned out and didn’t want to draw DB anymore but knew the fans wanted more. Toei and Bandai didn’t steal the franchise from him in some evil greedy manner, they made a continuation based on what fans thought they wanted at the time. And it was all with Toriyama’s blessing.
And some weirdos say that toriyama said “I hate GT” which is the opposite of true. I hate haters. Guess that makes me a hater then huh?
I’m pretty sure Bulma and Chi-Chi were glad the Potara fusion didn’t last, just as much as their husbands.
Did people really dislike Gohan in Dragonball Z? I personally loved his arc.
Honestly I wish Gohan would’ve been made the main character rather than the awkward comedy relief he was made to be :/
@GreenCannon yeah exactly. Gohan was so badass when he had the spotlight. I mean just look at future Gohan (trunks timeline). He was one of the most badass characters in the show. To see him get reduced to yamcha status is just lame.
@@_MrTrue as well Gohan during the Cell saga. I think he even surpassed Goku as a kid
Daniel R yep the 4 year old beats him by hundred even though he’s 8 years
AFTER CELL
Let's be honest did anyone want to see a 5 minute fight between SSJ Goku and Frieza
Yup, I prefer 5 hours, rather than 5 minutes.
There is a UA-cam video that shows the entire frieza fight in 5mins it's pretty crazy
@@ejandrews3065 yeah i saw, i know see how they see there fight
EJ Andrews Are you talking about the extremely sped up one? Or the one where they actually took their time to edit the scenes
No, but dont say its fucking 5 minutes
Fun fact: Akira toriyama hears all fans theories and make them true
even seen your this comment
@@tarunarulraj lol
Vegeta: *is 2nd strongest of the Z-fighters*
Also Vegeta: *is disliked by his creator*
Star Platinum that's how it goes sometimes when ur the chosen one
I'm still wondering what Nappa would look like going ssj with golden mustache or ssj3 handle bar mustache
The latest game does have Nappa doing that. He gets a big bushy gold beard.
It's 1000 years not 100 years....
Frieza didn't know about Goku VS Beerus...
He found if RoF when he was told goku beat main buu and fought beerus
U sure it's 1000? Vegeta mentions in super that in 1000 years the legendary super Saiyan comes (Broly, Kale)
Dude Frieza has a different feeling for time.
1 hour = 5 minutes
1000 years = 100 years
Then why did Vegeta state 3000 when Goku fought Recoome in the original eng dub? "So, I'm right. After three millennia, a new Super Saiyan has emerged." *inner monologue "And I, the prince of all Saiyans have somehow become this pauper's witness! I'm the only one who understands what he's become, perhaps even better than him..."* "If Kakarot managed to do it, then I should be able to as well. Until then, I'm at his mercy...HE is the strongest Saiyan in the entire universe.."
@@DarthSagius lol, bc the translation that you ppl grew up on was WRONG... Re Watch the series in it's original format to know what they really said thru out the show...
I think Goku got shot because he was recovering, he had no reason to keep his guard up at all (Frieza being clearly hurt) and he got a cheapshot to the back. 11:40
Goku don't need time to recover, I'm quite sure like a well trained athlete he is able to recover in high intense situations... Which leads back to what whis told goku... "He has a tendency to be too relaxed due to his overconfidence" & if that happens "he is setting himself up to fail"
I feel like it’s a cheeky reference to the sucker punch that takes someone out with one hit
Kazmic Kopa LOL i think you guys didn't realize he wasn't in ssb .
he was in his base form tired and injured with his ki guard down.. thats why he got hit......
@@noobgod4591 nope... The answer is, kakarot dropped his guard... He seemed to learn his lesson though from his battle with the revival of frieza. Cause goku seemed to be on guard almost the whole battle in the tournament of power & his stamina was clearly more effected in that battle than what it was against frieza... Just saying.
@@kazmickopa9825 he didn't learn his lesson in the anime he almost got eliminated by some green orc because he let his guard down
They turned Gohan into a nerd. He could’ve been way stronger than Goku
He definitely could've become way stronger
God damn it Chi-Chi.
Clay Soggyfries debatable since goku mastered ultra instincts which he may never have
Yeah but if he was stronger than goku, goku wouldn’t be the main character
@@arshiamotazedian9334 I would of liked Gohan to become the main character personally.
Here’s my question: Why can’t King Kai teach the Z- Fighters Tien, Yamcha and Chiaotzu the Kaioken technique?
I think their bodies can't take the strain.
the one above Zeno (akira toriyama) gives no fucks about humans. (other than the uub who will come later on)
There was a dbs game back in the day maybe budokai 3 were they all could use kaioken
@@MULLANUTS nope, I had that & budokai 2
@@kazmickopa9825 you can in xenoverse 1 .
Frieza isn't just sitting there. Thats no hover chair. Hes levitating it, and its heavy. One time you see him leave it and it just falls.
This guy doesnt know shit about dbz
Freiza does have telekinesis....
He literally has a move called telekinesis is every budokai game I thought everyone was aware 😐
If you played Xenoverse then you can see how a fight can last five minutes in dragon ball.
To be fucking honest😂😂
Last time I checked the DBZ universe didn't have HP bars lol
I think laser affecting too much on goku works in the same way when Vegeta asks Krillin to damage him on Namek, in order to gain a zenkai. Krillin objects that he's not powerful enough to damage him, but Vegeta responds that he would low his ki enough to allow Krillin to do that
My theory for why goku got hurt from that beam in super is if their guard is completely down, they can get hurt from the most minor of things. For example, in dbz, when goku mastered ssj and was relaxing with krillin under a tree, krillin thought he would instantly avoid or catch the small stone he threw at his head before it got near him but because his guard was down, he woke up shouting in pain
He gets hit by Bulma and ChiChi all the time and it hurts him.
And vegeta was cut by yajirobe's sword.
@@zoltanz288 he has to be playing along even if they tried it wouldn't be any thing but a tap. Maybe chichi could actually hit him but probably not after Z started. Goku patted her through the house after all.
@@Wzrd8 Hes not playing along, he just doesnt resist. He needs to have his energy up, hes just normal if he doesnt use his energy. Goku patted her trough the house when he was mastering SSJ and had it activated all the time.
I’ve always imagined that to protect there bodies from damage they have to put energy into the area they are about to be hit in which mitigates the damage.
Lol the creator of Dragon ball doesn’t like arguably the most liked character (vegeta) of his series lol
To be fair it feels like he dosent like most of the characters, i don't want to know how yamsha fans feel.
@@jinkisaragi874 There are Yamcha fans?
@@Kess_P2 I remember a lot of people really liked him in original Dragonball untill DBZ fucked him over like most human characters. And i think they could make the humans way more powerful since there shouldn't be a reason why they can't learn to control god ki. I mean we saw a bit of jirens race and they didn't seemed to be super special and jiren became a monster , i could see that happening for yamcha aswell....well maybe rather tien at this point.
Jin kisaragi yamcha was just as skilled as tien in dragon ball. So I don’t know why they screwed him in dbz. But I agree about your human point. I think that’s what they kind of tried doing with roshi
@@Kess_P2 As someone who started from Dragon Ball, yes
Is Goku technically a prince since he married the Ox Kings daughter??? Is Chi-Chi a princess then??? Found out soon, on the next episode, of DragonBall Z. 🤣😂🤣
Shut up Dede...
yes.. absolutely.
I'm sorry but
"Found out soon" ouch man my brain lol
Gohan and Goten are Princes. Awesome.
I tuned into the next episode to see, but they went back to episode one of Radditz killing that farmer :(
Wouldn’t having a wife and being a gentle and kind guy like tarble make him have more S cells? So shouldn’t he be really strong or at least have huge potential?
While he would have a TON of s cells i don’t think he had a high enough power level to use them to become super saiyan.
@@ayyyy. I don't think it's power rather it's just ki control, goten was on par with chichi when he achieved super saiyan and chichi although powerful for a regular human isn't even close to goku's strength in frieze arc.
@@bearwithme9433 No, it is power as Toriyama said, in order to get the SSJ transformation, the warrior needs a certain ammount of S Cells and power.
This completely ruins broly though...... The whole entire point of why Broly was the legendary super Saiyan was because he had such intense rage towards Goku and that's why he's also so powerful. So this S cell thing completely ruins that....
@@chrish4439 How does this ruin a character that the shit that triggers his powers are just cries from a 1 day old?
As I recall Goku telling Gohan "The power comes in response to a need"
10:55 All I can think of is the Abridged Series
Imp. Cell: “But now you will become part of me!”
(Vacuum sucking noise)
“...part of me!”
(Another Vacuum sucking noise)
“God, what are you, pure metal?!”
Android 16: “Affirmative. I am *ANDROID* 16”
Cell: Errors have been made.
i love TFS lol
11:40 I'd like to point out that we actually got the confirmation decades ago but people seem to forget. Vegeta outright says it to Krillin.
During the fight against final form Frieza Vegeta told Krillin to hit him so we could have Dende heal him and use the Zenkai boost.
Krillin says there's no way he'd even be able to hurt him and Vegeta specifically says he'll lower his defenses so even Krillin could kill him.
We've seen variations of this over the years but that was really the confirmation as to how their durability works and why Krillin who is a full genetic human can be bullet proof.
(And if you count the filler it explains how Goku could survive Krillin throwing a rock at him. It was a pretty tough rock.)
Should have scrolled lower before commenting, I pointed out the same thing 😅.
lol
Goku hit he’s head when he was a newborn so that makes him nice and if he didn’t hit he’s head he wouldn’t go super. Which makes it pretty unfair to vegeta
I Have one dragon ball theory
If the 2 prince of saiyan fused 2gether or use potara.
Vegeta + Tarble = Super Vegetable or maybe Vegetarble
Super vegetable? What is he in a super wheelchair too? Lmao
@@xavieruribe6529 ooh man you're dead wrong for that one 🤣🤣😭
You mean Super Vegtarble lmao
Mr. Cheater youre not funny
Mr. Cheater funny thing Goku is actually a prince, due to marrying The Ox King’s daughter chi-chi
The whole Ki armor concept was somewhat confirmed back in the Cell saga, when Krillin throws a rock at a sleeping Goku. It was most likely filler, which is why I say somewhat, but he definitely took some real damage.
Exactly!! I stated that over in another comment chain under this vid.
Theres also how goku took damage from bullets in super or how hes afraid of needles even though he blocks planet-destroying attacks with his bare hands. They just never explain it like other anime with similar magic systems do.
@@Excalibur5k nah, thats just bad writing, because he tanked bullets as a kid while slept all the time. And he tanked an axe to the head while unaware of what was happening.
I was thinking back when krillin mortally wounded Vegeta back at namek
@@Kdar088 ok fine. Rock to the head. Laser to the chest. There, being in a relaxed state puts down his ki armor.
This man just straight up uses legends card arts
Doge King ik I wasn’t the only one that peeped it😂
Lmao he always do
About the Ki armor thing, there was actually more evidence of it in DBZ in the 10 days before the Cell Games began. Goku, while still in his super saiyan form from having mastered maintaining it effortlessly, took a nap on the grass when he was hanging out with Krillin and Gohan. Krillin, wanting to test Goku's awareness after being amazed seeing him still a super saiyan even while asleep, threw a rock at him expecting him to zap it into a million pieces with his eyes closed, when in fact it hit Goku right in the forehead waking him up in a lot of pain holding his forehead and understandably upset. His guard was completely down hence why the rock hurt him, just like how his guard was down when he thought he won against Golden Frieza and got badly hurt by that laser.
"16 didnt want to hurt anyone" his primary directive was "kill son goku" 😆😆😆
AND Gero considered him a failure because of his kind nature.
SSGSS works like this if you didn't know:
Goku goes Super Saiyan while in Super Saiyan God thus creating Super Saiyan Blue
Yes exactly that's why it looks like we because ssg doesn't change your hair but ss did and those colors make blue then boom super Saiyan God super Saiyan
It should self-explanatory
@@NoblesNobule but gives him same hair as Yamoshi original ssjg
So, imagine going ss3 while in ssg form leading to long hair ssblue
@@ognjenpetkovic4044 its unclear if these forms follow same pattern as regular super saiyan ascensions
you kept calling Kaio-Ken a form which we fans know its not its a technique damnit anyone can learn it with king kai's training
The only reason King Kai didn't teach the technique to Tien, Yamcha, and Chaotzu was because he knew their bodies would never be able to handle it... I mean look at how far Goku has pushed it and how weakened he was at the end of any fight he uses the Kaioken technique
@@Hitomora i heard in the manga tien learned it idk if its tru
@@Hitomora HE COULD NOT USE THE TECHNIQUE HIMSELF AND TAUGHT IT TO GOKU AS AN ONLY HOPE TO DEFEAT VIGEEBA
What about chi chi she knows kaioken
@@Finisher-ei5zw that was just a visual joke... Plus the Garlic JR Saga is considered NonCanon
"I have an uncle..?"
"You *had* an uncle."
Ah yes...
The funny tingling on my back is what's gonna turn me Super Saiyan.
or you have some nerve damage
Who else noticed Dragon Ball Legends Art style?
Me
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All dbl players
I was searching for this comment lol
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*Correction:* The battle with Hit wasn't the first time Goku used Super Kaioken, that was against Pikkon.
Pikkon is filler, Homie.
it is in fact the first CANON time, goku did so, which therefore makes it the first time, non-canon doesnt count in the timeline
@@thequestbro He may be filler, but he's also canon, hence the correction ;)
@@llynellyn he isn't canon. He was filler. He isn't in the source material.
@@thequestbro he Is shown many times in the buu saga
100yrs???!!!!
It 3000yrs(in japanese)/1000yrs(in
American vrs(
When you make videos about something you know jack shit about just to get views.
@@tankofnova9022 true that
Seriously they fuck that up in every video I’ve seen of them covering db
What I wanted to comment xD
Thumbs up
Thanks! I felt like that 100 yrs wasnt very long and didnt seem right
"S-cells" sounds like the same kind of crap as Midoclorians.
Toriyama is a huge Star Wars fan...
It is. Wouldn't be the first time Toriyama repurposed elements of other works
Lets see: Journey to the West, Superman, Terminator, Hong Kong action movies, now Star Wars...Am I forgetting something?
Another reason super sucks.
@@kreiyu You do realise that S-Cells only significantly impacted the plot of Z right? Goten and Trunks were able to turn SSJ so easily because of said S-Cells.
Half saiyans do have more potential then full blooded saiyans but what ends up making them weaker is they eventually lose interest in fighting so they quit training...
Examples are 1.Gohan in the saiyaman saga 2.Gohan in db super 3. Gohan, Goten, and Trunks in dbgt
They dont lose interest in fighting. The kids always want to fight the script makes everyone say no to them
Being mixed doesn't make a Saiyan stronger, it's being nicer.
@@omgaidebig4121 humans are nicer so yea
@@jakovhrga5619 Broly is nicer and he not half human. Broly is pure Saiyan and he can probably solo Gohan, Goten, and Trunks sooo..
@@jakovhrga5619 if being " bEiNg pArT hUmAn mAkEs yOu sTrOnGeR," why are Krillin, Tien,Yamcha, and Chiaotzu complete jokes to Goku and Vegeta? Given that those four are human?. 🙄
"Kindler" when he meant "Kinder".... just saiyan...
Friezas 5 minutes, were being counted in American football time, hence the 1+ hour show
Real football*
In the manga it actually makes sense.
The whole Frieza riding his thing.
We can walk pretty easily, and effortlessly, but why do it if we don’t need to
So Dr Gero programmed 16 to not fight because he didn't want him to get hurt.... Just fight the most powerful Saiyan on Earth? 🤨🤔
Goku was the one who killed geros son, thats why he hated goku and wanted to kill him
@@zesantos2081 who was his son again?
@@Shortcat81 He was one of the members of the RR Army back when Goku was a kid. I think 16 is an android based in the likeness of him
@@Griffolicious oh ok thanks
You could think of this theory. Perhaps 16 was built to be peaceful, but Gero's hatred towards Goku imprinted on Android 16, thus his only objective was to kill Goku because 16 knew how much his father wanted to kill Goku.
What if, the golden haired ssj is not ACTUALLY ssj. Consider this, when vegeta in the ginyu saga talked about super saiyans, we saw a image of a great ape-like figure with a gold glow terrorising a planet. And what gold aura covered great ape do we see in GT? Golden great ape. Don’t believe me? Vegeta has also said or referenced a ssj being heartless and merciless. And what is the downside to gold great ape? It’s extremely difficult to control. What if, each ssj form was a omen, like ui sign of ssj? That’s why ssj3 and 4 both extend the user’s hair. As it’s more hair, that could turn into fur as a ggp. And you need to break through the merciless form, you get ssj4. People say that ssj must be unlocked through rage, but to maintain it, you must be calm afterwards. Otherwise, you will flicker in and out of the form like a dying lightbulb. Ssj 4 is required to quell rage, yet maintain it in a calm state. Just like ssj4. Final thing, if a “pure heart” is also required, ssj4 would make more sense as a pure hearted version. As of which why it maintains fur and hair across the body. To conclude, maybe ssj great ape is the REAL ssj. While as I said ssj4 is the version for good saiyans.
“Get real mad and then your a blonde” lol
Sneeze and you will be blonde
I have NEVER had a problem with the whole “Goku hit by a laser” thing. He was totally off guard and had no idea the guy was even there, more so he was very weak. People seem to have a very high level of cherry picking what is and isn’t okay. So everyone is of the idea these guys have 100% protecting armor on all the time, but Trunks cutting people with his sword and for that matter Goku having to use an aura to block it is okay? By the logic people use, Goku should use be able to stand there and Trunk’s sword not even touching if not shatter. Anyone remember the part before the cell games when Krillin threw a rock at a resting SSJ Goku think just what everyone else thought and nailed him in the head?
But it would still make sense if firstly he was in base form and secondly was shot by Frieza.
@@twoocean8012 The first time it happened, Goku was in ssj blue, it was later retconed
That doesn't explain why Goku... when he was a kid was shot by Bulma and received no damage ( when he had no knowledge of ki) and later in Super got hurt by getting shot by some bandits
so would this mean that a normal human could kill a sleeping sayian?
Guys. There is no point in trying to explain it. Even if it was possible because Goku was "off-guard", why was he "off-guard" to begin with? He can move faster than 20x the speed of light but missed that measly lazer? Bullets didn't do anything to him when he was a child (a million times weaker) and KI wasn't a thing back then. Dragon Ball Super is just lazy writing from start to finish and complete bullshit.
CBR: We’re gonna be counting down 15 fan theories that were confirmed
Also CBR: Its not a theory, but we’re gonna count it
cbr I watch your channel every day and I love it every time you don’t make a video for a day I get sad 😞
For the last theory, Tarble was actually mentioned in the filler episodes that lead up to the Tournament of Power, when Bulma suggests they make Tarble one of the condensers for the tournament.
Figured somebody should tell you since nobody else did. There's actually no filler in DBS because the anime is it's own source material. The manga cannon/story is completely separate from the anime. This has already been confirmed just do a quick Google search lol
@@christineanderson699 Can someone explain to me what the hell "filler" means to this series and why it seems to use an entirely different definition than literally any other? Literally everywhere else, "filler" is an episode that doesn't contribute to advancing the overall plot, but is still canon regardless. Yet here, people seem to use it to mean "it was made up for the anime so it doesn't really happpen".
@@BJGvideos I always thought that filler was something that didn't happen in the source material (e.g. the Bount arc in Bleach or the arc with the kid who got nine tails chakra put into him before Hidan and Kakazu showed up to kill Asuma in Naruto Shippuden)
@@creepynoone7437 That would make it difficult for series without a source material to have filler then.
2) The real issue to Frieza's 5 minutes is because the anime caught up to the manga, so for the manga to get ahead of the anime again, the SSJ Goku VS Frieza was greatly extended, and Goku is a Rough Saiyan.
3) I think you misunderstood "Good Saiyans have more S-Cells than Rough Saiyans." This was referring to the fact that Universe 6 Saiyans, also known as Good Saiyans, have more S-Cells than Universe 7 Saiyans, also known as Rough Saiyans. BTW, Goku is a Rough Saiyan since he's a Saiyan from Universe 7.
Also "after a 100 years" That's actually 1000 years.
13) Although the Ki Armor is probably true, why the rifle beam was able to penetrate Goku was not because the Ki Armor was weak but because Goku let his guard down. Some foreshadowing for this is when earlier in the Saga/Movie, Whis warned Goku that he lets his guard down too frequently because Goku is overconfident.
Another example is in Dragon Ball Super when Goku was taking on some trugs and one of them shoots Goku in the arm. The bullet left a bruise.
Another even earlier of Goku getting hurt because of letting his guard down, this time from the Cell Saga, is when Krillin through a pebble at SSJ Goku, expecting Goku to catch it, yet the pebble hits Goku's forehead, leaving a bruise, and visually causes Goku a lot of pain.
3) Being good or bad doesn't influence the ammount of S Cells, living a peacefull life does, for example: Future Gohan is a good person but couldn't get his power to increase that much while training, unlike the Gohan of the current timeline did at an early age, due to the chaotic future, Gohan couldn't live a peacefull life to develope enough S Cells.
Letting his guard down has never mattered before. He's been hit with bullets and blasts while out of guard before and it never pierced his body. That's the issue fans had with it. That whole Resurrection F movie had a lot of inconsistencies. Friezas "my power level could reach 1.5 million!!" thing made a lot of people scratch their heads.
android 16 programmed not to fight anyone....except Son Goku....
I love how he used the legends card arts!! They put in a lot of work into them
Thank you for validating Cauliflas practical description of what actually happens during SSJ. People seem to love the metaphysical, when every amazing feat has its technical attributes. Imagine having to describe how to perform a magic card trick. That's basically what she did.
I always believed that the reason for Gohan and Goten’s power is they inherited Goku’s power based on how powerful he was during their birth.
Nope it's cause humans have more emotions and is more kind. The more kind a saiyan the stronger, it's the S-cells when Goku turned ss it was cause he got so emotional when Krillin died his C-sells got higer or something and he turned ss
Something like that but it's also Gokus base is strong
@The Deadpool Who Chuckles. If she went for it twice it means it wasn't so bad.
@The Deadpool Who Chuckles. exactly my thoughts
@@bobbo6912 That makes sense... saiyans are super aggressive gohan and goten are kind asf
Need Geekdom101 to confirm this.
Faxs
What he is saying is right though
I wish Geekdom debunked more vids rather than just articles
@@kaijoy4940 you mean the vid?
@@Chavanun555 yes I do
This tbh has been my favorite dragon ball explanation/theory video so far i have ever seen.
I always thought that frieza lied about the 5minutes and was just saying it to intimidate goku... Makes a lot more sense imo
The big thing people forget about the five minutes thing is Frieza extended his estimate midfight... he comments how Namek is "a tough old bird" and gave it more time.
The kinder a person is, the stronger their rage is, because it takes a while lot more to get them to that point.
Not true. Gohan was always losing his temper.
@@deckzone3000 Cause Gohan's been through a lot of shit in his life. Who wouldn't with what he's had to deal with?
"Get REAL MAD, and go blonde" seems like a better explanation to me
Dragon King or have a different krillian and boom your blonde 🤣
Dragon King Definitely a better explanation
What about ultra instinct
My saying goes "GET REAL MAD, and turn old af*0"
I always kinda just saw Frieza's time estimate as just that, a spitball number that has very little actual predictive power. Never really saw how he could be such an authority on the geological composition of the Namekian Core, even if he was in the business of selling planets wholesale.
People still complaining about that 5 minute fight between Goku and Frieza but don't bat an eye at the tournament of power being 45 minutes.
I'm still confused how my man Goku went ultra instinct 3 times, then he fucking masters it out of no where. God's could spend their entire lives without mastering it but my man does it in less than 30 minutes.
@@bigpoppa1014 Because of bad writing
@Checks Over Stripes Bad writing + that
@@bigpoppa1014 Its literally cuz of Gohan dropping him on his head as a child. Since hes kind of slow it helps him naturally not think when hes fighting. He just reacts. And that's the secret to UI
people fail to forget it's anime,they can do what they want
“ a dumb little laser”
Isn’t a laser focused light/energy?
So what’s a kamehameha? Unicorn farts?
Seems to me that a ‘silly little laser’ would be just as bad as any energy blast. Granted the source of that energy is high enough to penetrate the ‘ki armor’ you mentioned...
Ki. A kamehameha is ki. Its different from a laser blast from technology
So Saiyanss are easily defeated on the start wars universe. Sad.
The way it's produced, yes. But wouldn't it still be energy tho
@@saaiesue5186 no shit, huh. WTF this guy talking about, right?
"It's hard to know when the word Canon came into being"
No it isn't, it literally was created to differentiate between what was considered the "true" bible scriptures and what wasn't. Biblical canon is literally where it began.
Do these guys even do research before making these videos?
We dont use fake information to prove our points
LIES! Dragon Ball Z INVENTED the term!
shots fired...
from the cannon.. get it? bahahha
exactly my thought lmao
Dombin what?
Well done CBR.
4:50 Bringing Goku back for a more 'satisfying' ending?! Ex--f******-cuse you!
Sincerely,
Every Gohan fan out there
Honestly now, I found Gohan's character much more profound than Goku's. Same with Vegeta.
Gohan and Vegeta both struggled with their own inner darkness in their own way, where as Goku was always a predictable fight loving innocent knucklehead. You could always count on Goku to get a power-up and save the day but you never truly know when Gohan or V-man just snap.
Victor Unbea yeah the reason goku became the mc again is bc his reactive character type fit better as a protagonist than gohans active type
@@dub1958 I think we have seen the same video. Isn't Gohan the more reactive one though ? Goku is active he makes stuff go down so that the story can move forward Gohan always needs to get pushed before he does anything.
@@jaherra2567
Goku is like Gon from Hunter x Hunter, they both can fit in any setting of an arc.
@@jaherra2567 Goku is absolutely dumb. His level of dumbness can't even let him be cautious. I really like Goku, but the plot armor is unbearable. I mean, everything is about Goku and his personality is one of a 6 year old kid. Other characters barely have their moments without Goku having to be in the spotlight, absolutely annoying. S-cells is just another bullshit excuse for Goku to be stronger than Vegeta... I mean, Toriyama is not very fond of vegeta, that's the real reason he always makes him the weaker one. Knowing that, I ain't listening to no s-cells bullshit xD
Gohan was the most popular character at one point and that was when he became ssj2. He was more reliable than goku but ultimately goku is the main character and death has always been a joke in dbz
Why does everyone hate GT personally loved it just because I got to see SS4
Joshua Lopez and the intro 👌
Congovegan _ you like the intro?
Yeah I'm not sure why ppl hate on GT so much. I loved it. I cried when goku went ss4
I think that if people can stand to super they should accept GT. Both are ridiculous and yet have their good moments.
Yeah man
For the fact 13, Vegeta stated the same stuff, when he lowered his ki and let himself be injured to get zenkai boost for fight with Frieza
Actually Akira had some small involvement in DBGT. He disigned SSJ4 and is the one to give DBGT its name.
That's a false rumour. Katsuyoshi Nakatsuru designed SS4. I don't remember if Tori was involved in GT at all.
@@HipnikDragomir Yeah I learned the ssj4 thing last year but I never corrected this comment though because I forgot about it.
@@HipnikDragomirExactly and a here's a fun fact: SSJ God design would be very similar to SSJ4 but Akira doesn't like the transformation because it's design is very complex and hard to draw, so he just made Goku with a different hair color, SSJ, Blue, Orange Piccolo, Golden Frieza are all recolors because of that
Please Toriyama... make Gohan great again!
@@chiranjeevsaikia560 he already great you fool
Gohan base form super is almost as strong as his previous mystic form. Confused where you think this from.
Great saiya man was coolish but.... The dance. Smh killed his coolness in everyway
Chiranjeev Saikia you’re stupid
Well, I always like to keep in my head that Gohan is already twice as strong as Goku when Goku was at the same age as Gohan.
He calls the franchise
The super franchise.
This guy isn’t a real fan
NCR4EVER2010 Official-UA-cam you just now noticed
Pat rick never saw any other vids from this guy so no I didn’t know.
NCR4EVER2010 Official-UA-cam it is called “Dragon Ball Super” now.
And before that it was called “Dragon Ball”. The only one that never existed was “Dragon Ball Z” as the “Z” was just meant to be a reference to the rebranding the anime got after the 23rd martial arts tournament. The manga just continued to be plain good old “Dragon Ball”.
But yeah, these CBR guys are not fans indeed.
@@carlosvidal6663 True. He may have seen an episode or two but he's just reading a script somebody else wrote who probably just researched for an hour or two.
@@carlosvidal6663 I read the "Z" was originally a "2" that was somehow badly written and understood as a "Z" by someone important
"15 Dragon Ball Fan Theories That Were Actually Confirmed" 12:28 sure
Luzy Scythe terrible writting, terrible fucking writting.
As a kid both times Gohan went SSJ2 he was injured.
First time in the time chamber when Goku witnessed it he was more exhausted then injured and then when he fought Cell. So with that being said how strong was this kid and it also makes your wonder how much power he really lost leading up to the buy saga.
I mean it was filler for Z during the other world tournament, but Goku def used the Kaioken with Super Saiyan during his fight with Pikkon. Hence reason it was called Super Kaioken.
So I have a question: we can all agree S-cells are required to become super saiyan. What I can’t agree with is kindness is what produces said cells. If this is so why can’t they do a spirit bomb while still a SS. In the show it was explained you would need to be pure of heart or something. They said that SS gives of malicious energy there for they can not do the spirit bomb. If SS is basically made up of kind hearted energy, why can’t they do the Spirit bomb
The last super saiyan before goku was 10000 years not 100 lol
It was 100
Ok so who was it 😂 vegeta clearly says in the show 1000 years
In the manga it says 1000 so technically that's the most legit
And funnily enough the last Super Saiyan before him was his old man, Bardock.
@@Dra_El9980 No. That isn't canon.
I've always thought it was interesting that the two things that have ever killed goku have been piccolos special beam cannon and cell. Piccolo's attack and Cell were specifically designed to kill Goku. I've always thought that Gero and Piccolo somehow found a key weakness in Goku that's never been explained. Maybe some kind of way to break through his key armor.
Special Beam Cannon was made as a piercing weapon, its why it takes him so long to charge it up so that he can condense it all. As for Cells explosion, I imagine just because it was such a massive amount of energy? Can't really say much else about that one!
Like Goku is destined so destiny can also be manipulated against him.
That's cool.
I like that thanks
S-cells are dragon ball midichlorians. Change my mind.
Why change a fact? Thats not how facts work
They are 100%
S-cells are just super powerful Saiyan Testosterone.
S-Cells = Sayian Cell, and I am pretty sure every cell in a pure Saiyan's body is a "Sayian Cell" ...
And they will probably be just as pointless and underused (thankfully) as in SW.