The Classic Miniature Painting Technique You Forgot - Here’s Why It Still Works!

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    Washes used to be considered liquid talent, but with the advent of contrast and speed paints, they were pushed to the back of the shelves. lets revisit these old classics and see if they deserve a front row seat on your miniature painting desk.
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    00:intro
    00:32 The Low Down
    1:25 Painting
    3:54 Highlighting
    4:27 Layering with Contrast Paints
    5:58 When to Use Washes on Washes

КОМЕНТАРІ • 63

  • @GreyHouseGames
    @GreyHouseGames 19 днів тому +27

    Just because a technique is old, doesn't mean it's bad. Great job grabbing an oldie but a goldie and highlighting it again!

    • @LylaMev
      @LylaMev  19 днів тому +7

      I hope washes make more of a come back, I like them so much more than contrast paint!

    • @cptant7610
      @cptant7610 18 днів тому +1

      How is washing "old", it's basic painting 101.

    • @GreyHouseGames
      @GreyHouseGames 18 днів тому

      @@cptant7610 It may be basic painting 101 to you, but there's a lot of folks who get into the hobby and don't get exposed to these sort of "foundational" techniques until after they're already confused by the "new hotness" techniques of the moment they see on youtube. It's always valuable to revisit the 101 skills of a hobby occasionally.

    • @alexbrown1930
      @alexbrown1930 16 днів тому

      I have been known to use washes on contrast/speed paints. 3xample: I used thinned nuln oil on the bottom half and some of the deeper recesses of Mephiston's cloak

    • @cameronward9443
      @cameronward9443 8 днів тому

      @@LylaMev Agree 100%. The contrast paints are one of the main reasons I moved away from GW paints. I don't like the gimmickiness of it all. I don't typically use a wash but certain models do benefit from it for sure. The random nature of it as well works well instead of low lighting it yourself, when it sometimes ends up looking too repetitive with your choice of low lights.

  • @Tailmonsterfriend
    @Tailmonsterfriend 14 днів тому +2

    That black paint on the fur took the paintjob from good to great. THIS is why I like watching these videos. Very cool.

  • @kmac5682
    @kmac5682 13 днів тому

    Thanks for doing this classic cover, Lyla. It's a great tutorial for everyone.

  • @stevenbeck4394
    @stevenbeck4394 19 днів тому +10

    Another fun trick is you can spray a clear gloss coat after the base coats dry, and before you apply the wash. It helps the wash flow into the recesses better, especially if you thin the wash a little more with a damp brush. Multiple layers of varnish will darken the base coats, but if you're layering over them anyway, it's no big deal.

    • @LylaMev
      @LylaMev  19 днів тому +7

      That is something I have been meaning to test, thank you for reminding me! some people SWEAR by it, but I'm not sure I've ever noticed a difference!

  • @philurbaniak1811
    @philurbaniak1811 18 днів тому +1

    👍👍 this is pretty much how I paint now, washing in the shadows and then pushing up the highlights. Also, Zenithal Cat b roll is best b roll 👍😄

  • @theromeog
    @theromeog 19 днів тому +2

    inspirational video as always. Thanks for the time you take to make these

    • @LylaMev
      @LylaMev  19 днів тому +1

      Thanks for your comment!

  • @iain952
    @iain952 19 днів тому +4

    Amazing work as always Lyla, stuff like this is the reason you're my favourite UA-cam painter.

    • @LylaMev
      @LylaMev  19 днів тому +2

      It means a lot!

  • @kevinhayes517
    @kevinhayes517 18 днів тому +1

    Great reminder of the basics, thanks!

  • @timwells8359
    @timwells8359 19 днів тому +2

    Great video to bring people back to classic techniques!

    • @LylaMev
      @LylaMev  19 днів тому +1

      Thank you so much! I was surprised at how much I enjoyed using washes- it has been a while!

  • @mx.lucyfur
    @mx.lucyfur 18 днів тому +1

    A hint of purple wash in bronze metallics is a nice little bit of color variance. ♥

  • @krzysztofmathews738
    @krzysztofmathews738 19 днів тому +1

    This is some good foundational technique. Thank you for demonstrating this process!

  • @brianfoley3925
    @brianfoley3925 18 днів тому +1

    Great video

  • @iExploder
    @iExploder 18 днів тому +1

    Good shit, Lyla! Definitely looking forward to applying this approach on my own Gnawlord!

  • @beechsprout8806
    @beechsprout8806 18 днів тому +1

    I'm a new painter in the hobby. I started early in January and when I found how useful shades paints and washes could be I really had to wonder why the other folks in the game stores near me weren't using them.
    Their loss I guess.

  • @alphaleigpyne
    @alphaleigpyne 18 днів тому +2

    The extra shade and contrast gave the Skaven more details on its fur. The tail turn out well.

  • @ReaperOfStories
    @ReaperOfStories 18 днів тому +1

    I took a break from mini painting from the early 2000s until this last year and missed the release of all these newfangled fancy paints. I never stopped using a base -> dry-brush highlight -> wash -> touch-up method. And undecorated bases are Goblin Green!

  • @matthewtorpey4176
    @matthewtorpey4176 6 днів тому

    This was a great video...thanks for this.

  • @bluedotdinosaur
    @bluedotdinosaur 18 днів тому +2

    One of the most basic styles of base / shade / clean up still works best: base coat, dump wash for shading all over, then layer the raised and large flat areas with a thinned down pass of the base color again to restore vibrancy.
    The thing is, this is really easy! The thinned final layer of the base color acts like a translucent glaze. You don't have to be too neat with it. The edges naturally fade away into the darkened recesses holding the shading from the wash. It doesn't take a lot of time. And you end up with a rich and clean looking final effect.
    It's just a bit odd to me that more people don't rely on this simple method. I find it is pretty easy to overthink painting techniques.

  • @Peter-ll7ot
    @Peter-ll7ot 19 днів тому +1

    I love your content, Lyla!

    • @LylaMev
      @LylaMev  19 днів тому +1

      Thank you so much! it means a lot to me to hear that!

  • @bencochrane6112
    @bencochrane6112 17 днів тому +1

    Ah yes, the good old pattern: base coat - "It sucks!". Agrax Earthshade - "OMG are you an artist?!"

  • @alexbrown1930
    @alexbrown1930 16 днів тому

    How you did this miniature is very much how I do miniatures these days: I use Contrast/Speed Paints to block in all the major details, and then use shades, layering, and dry-brushing to take it up a notch. I actually feel a lot better about my own painting seeing this two part look at one model. Thank you so much!

  • @Abyssinian654
    @Abyssinian654 18 днів тому +2

    Thank you for this video. This video just earned you a new Subscriber, bc I actually learned a few things I was doing wrong in my painting. Thank you. :) *Bro-Hugs*

  • @redrooster7371
    @redrooster7371 18 днів тому +1

    Basecoat, wash, layer and and highlight was my first speedpainting project. 30 minutes for a miniature for the whole Project Z range.

  • @garryame4008
    @garryame4008 18 днів тому +4

    This technique rules so much. It's simplicity makes painting much less intimidating

  • @marmaladegrrl
    @marmaladegrrl 18 днів тому

    So much better. Love it

  • @mcscruff3813
    @mcscruff3813 16 днів тому

    "Bullseye" and "tiny disgusting mountain range" are maybe the best explanations I've ever heard! 😂

  • @supermastermax2
    @supermastermax2 19 днів тому +2

    NICE

  • @jorgemontero6384
    @jorgemontero6384 17 днів тому

    Yep, dunking everything in a wash, and layering absolutely everything to rebuild a midtone is madness. Basetoning light, letting the wash give you the midtone, and then glazing shadows and highlights is far more efficient when aiming for Tabletop plus.

  • @johnnycooper7019
    @johnnycooper7019 18 днів тому +2

    Dear Lyla, I am a long term lurker, but I was so impressed with your workmanship I had to comment! Thank you for sharing your tutorial, it was very inspirational. Best Wishes Johnny

  • @Yamael
    @Yamael 18 днів тому

    Have you checked any of the Warhipster’s Contrast+ videos? It’s pretty much using Contrast and Shades (with some magic of his) to make the base coat and shadows, then adding up layers and highlights to complete the job.

  • @rccarguy3696
    @rccarguy3696 18 днів тому

    I just saw a vid where she was saying that you know you’re a good painter when you DON’T use speedpaints or washes. I say it’s good to know several techniques and use whichever you’re in the mood for. It keeps our hobby from becoming mundane. 🙂

  • @thomasjones3221
    @thomasjones3221 19 днів тому +2

    new video. i see. i comment.

  • @Shogun-c87
    @Shogun-c87 17 днів тому

    still using my citadel washes from 2015

  • @williampadgett9423
    @williampadgett9423 17 днів тому

    I've been painting less than 5 years and this is the only method I know lol

  • @MrOmega-cz9yo
    @MrOmega-cz9yo 18 днів тому

    My 2c. The paint job is awesome, but the fangs look long enough that there is something you could try to make them a little more realistic. Stipple some tan on the fangs by the gum line, and then paint the tip a bright white (I'm not sure but it looks like you've done that already). If you try this, let us know how it worked out for you.

  • @dvj85
    @dvj85 18 днів тому

    If you have the patience and skill, this will for sure make for better looking models. But Contrasts and speedpaints are the only reason I even have painted models. I like playing the games, not the extended hobbying before that.

  • @LordByte
    @LordByte 18 днів тому

    I still don't like washes except for things like fur, dirt and for mechanical objects that need to look oiled or dirty. It's always too clear they're washes and they never do exactly what you want. (in this case the paws especially irk my sensibilities, it just looks like... wash, nothing natural about it).
    Though for fast army results I can stand behind it as it's very economical in time vs quality. If I use them i thin them down enormously usually, because I simply don't like the wash look and use it more like an even thinner glaze).
    PS been using the work towards the highlight stroke for ages, it's almost magical and requires me to rarely thin to glaze consistency for a similar effect in one, maybe two strokes :) Acrylic medium is the key there as it keeps the paints feel (so not watery) while slightly lowering the opacity to enhance this effect

  • @aleksanderandersson
    @aleksanderandersson 13 днів тому

    Yes hello, I'm here for the Anthoninan camo shade tutorial, can you guide me to it?

  • @funchick202
    @funchick202 19 днів тому +1

    Darn! I'm not first. I still liked the video!

  • @dantizzy
    @dantizzy 18 днів тому

    What primer do you use on your minis

  • @Onk3lM0
    @Onk3lM0 18 днів тому +1

    Is there a specific reason why you used so much of the shade? It pooled heavily in the recesses and made for stark value jumps between the shadows and subsequential highlights. This makes it looks splotchy and unnatural. I'd thin down the shade 1:1 and not load the brush up as much to have more control.

  • @YouTubeuser6294
    @YouTubeuser6294 18 днів тому +2

    There is nothing wrong with old, right? right?

  • @RidgeMiller
    @RidgeMiller 18 днів тому

    Heres why it works. it didnt change and it still the same.

  • @cptant7610
    @cptant7610 18 днів тому +2

    How is this "classic" or "old"? washing and layering are basic painting techniques. Basically all my models use army painter strong or dark tone on at least some areas.

    • @LonelyGamer4
      @LonelyGamer4 15 днів тому

      Most miniature painting tutorials that aren’t aimed at display level painting are primarily done with contrast paints nowadays 🤷‍♂️

    • @cptant7610
      @cptant7610 15 днів тому

      @@LonelyGamer4 Is that actually true though. If I search for "Paint first space marine" in youtube of the first 5 results only 1 mentioned speedpaints as an option besides regular acrylics.

    • @cptant7610
      @cptant7610 15 днів тому

      @@LonelyGamer4 Is that actually true though? I searched for "Paint first space marine" and of the top 5 results only 1 mentioned contrast paint as an alternative option.

  • @bencoomer2000
    @bencoomer2000 18 днів тому

    That's extremely disgusting looking. Great job.

  • @jrod5113
    @jrod5113 18 днів тому

    Do you have any Jesus Shirts?😅

  • @jc7997aj
    @jc7997aj 18 днів тому

    Painting techniques are tools. So right tool for the job. I will say their marketing has worked and many think contrast or contrast like paints are a "one stop shop" for all your painting needs but the reality is they are a good first step. Especially for beginning to mid level painters. I find I like contrast for the bulk items on a mini , what ever is the most prevalent on the model (armor, fur, skin etc.. ) going in back in with reg paint for the highlights and likely a thinned all over wash to unify the paint scheme.
    That cant be said enough about washes. Its almost magic like abilities to bring it all together. I find it difficult to consider my mini being complete with out it, whether it's a oil wash or acrylic.
    That might be a good focus for a next video for you if you wanted to hightlight shading and washing more. That "unifying" ability even if its a thinned and barely perceptable wash, is worth bringing back to the forefront.
    Also when to varnish then wash vs just wash.
    Great video as always !! One of the best in the biz.