The ONLY PRIMING Video you'll ever need. Work Smarter! Not Harder!
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2025
- How to Prime miniatures so you can get through that huge pile of shame is one of the things that slows us down. But what if there was a whole host of ways to prime so you can actually get things done quickly.
You don't always have to prime every miniature in black. In fact, I'd actively urge you not to. Try priming in multiple colours, try slapchop, try multi colour rattlecan spraying.
Stop thinking of priming as a first sticky layer of paint and think of it as you first colour layer instead!
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I came for the video on primer and stayed for what proved to be ONE OF THE BEST TUTORIALS ON APPLIED COLOR THEORY I HAVE EVER WATCHED. HOLY COW.
Now that’s a compliment. Thank you, thank you. You always worry that UA-cam buries your video in a pile of dirty laundry. But it seems it did it’s job this time! 😜
@@thestateofplay2023 I think we need a part 2 to the inks mixing.........just saying.
What would be in part 2 do you think!
@@thestateofplay2023 Well......a Dropbox location for the chart 😎. Also, I'd love to know how to mix inks from a CMYK I get from an online colour (say FS as I model aircraft). They omit the white because it's assumed you'll be printing on white. Really appreciate the effort you put into your videos!
No doubt
Love this. I'm not painting for a Golden Demon. I'm painting to have fun. The hobby needs more of this.
Yes I wholeheartedly agree!!
I am painting for a golden demon 😔
@@Creamzilla Good for you.
I'm not painting for a Golden Demon, but I still act like I am and it's kind of a problem. I've got so little done. Lol
Ironically I'm not even painting to have fun. I hate painting. I'm painting to enjoy the figurine on a shelf. I just want it good enough to not hate it.
I've seen a couple of these "color zenithal" vids (including Jon's) but the "how" wasn't explained well. This finally broke through my brain fog. Your on-screen graphics were absolute gold.
Your explanation was terrific. Your insights into why we do illogical steps was spot-on. It hurt, but I needed to hear it.
Haha! Thanks. Yeah I think a lot of this hobby is doing stuff because we’ve always done stuff. It’s only when you step back and go “hang on a minute” that you can dump all the stuff that just wastes time. 👍🏼
I thought I was getting a simple video on what I thought I was knowledgeable in, and I got schooled by a genius. Sub earned
I try not to make simple videos. 🤣 wish I did as they’d take less time to make!
@@thestateofplay2023 as a lazy student I totally understand, but as a d level painter trying to improve I really appreciate the work.
You and I are complete opposites, you paint fast but build slow, meanwhile I’m over here putting together combat patrols in a single day. I absolutely love building models but despise painting.
And you can tidy up all the bins, mould lines and gaps and everything? Wow. I’m impressed. Takes me so much time
oh, and maybe timelines for someone, who might be interested...
00:00 - Intro
00:44 - Welcom to the State Of Play -> About this video
01:34 - The end.
ok, joke ;)
03:19 - Rattlecan Single Colour
06:26 - Rattlecan For Contrasts
07:40 - Rattlecan B&W Zenithal
10:00 - Rattlecan Multi Colour
11:45 - Airbrush B&W Zenithal
13:34 - Airbrush Multi Colour
18:37 - Airbrush Multi Colour V2
19:48 - Slapchop Greyscale
21:03 - Slapchop Multi Colour
21:56 - Combine Methods White Drybrush
22:43 - Zenithal Plus Contrast Tinting
23:58 - Main tip from this video and final important things
(if I haven't missed anything)
You missed 2:54 - Sick burn on Star Wars Acolyte. Well deserved too.
@@ricardohernandezvega8588 heh, thanks. good catch xD
Goat
You’re an absolute legend thank you
The reason for priming black is not to leave it for deliberate shading. It is so that if you miss an area while painting, it's an unobtrusive "shadow" and doesn't look bad like random grey or white does.
Yes and i say the same as I did in the video, “shadows aren’t black”. If the unobtrusive shadow colour was an issue then any dark shade would work better. 👍🏼
Father of a son who's getting into WH40k here... this is the best video I've seen thus far!
Thank you very much for this; I shelled out the moula for his airbrush last Christmas and was saddened by the fact we only used it for priming. We'll watch this video again together and use your help. Thanks State of Play from across the pond!
You’re very welcome! I hope both you and your son have many years of enjoyment with 40k! Kill team and necromunda next….👍🏼
W Dad
Sometimes the internet is a fabulous place. I just got my studio cleaned up, my airbrush cleaned out ready to go, and a whole tray of clan rats that need to be primed and painted...what amazing timing.
Your original airbrushing video convinced me to get one in the first place (Ultra 2024 again thanks to you.)
Thank you so much.
Oh man, that Skaventide box just arrived on my doorstep too. Just when I’d already build and primed what I thought - was everything. 🤣
I must admit that I did not thought that I will manage to watch the all video. I started to watch it, made my self a pancake, add chocolate spread, covered with whipped cream, made some tea... and kept watching... eat some more... kept watching... another tea (why not)...kept watching... bloody hell somebody is calling me from work right now? Kept watching work is important but not as priming it turns out! great stuff sir! Insta sub.
🤣 oh man thanks for that. That was an amazing story. Made my day!!
I used to paint figures some 25 years ago, and we always primed white. I remember when people first started recommending priming black, and when colored primers started becoming available. I personally only prime black if im painting predominantly metal or black, otherwise I will prime white or my base color.
And you make perfect sense with that approach. 👍🏼
Same, but then I only ever collected 40k, and in my head it always made more sense to me that armour of any kind would be best coated black first. And so my style of painting always sort of adapted the 'proper' method in the direction of having more black areas and generally darker colours.
I think the only things I never primed black were my tzeench and nurgle daemons. The bright pink, blue, and green ones. But I did for khorn ones because red looks better over black.
Edit. Just thought about it, and at one point I did use red primer on khorn bazzerkers.
Same here, except I always primed black 🤷♂️
New sub here .. someone who suffers from ADHD never finishes anything if i am honest .. I use painting as a way for escaping from the madness at times engulfs me here in the borders , priming items in many colours is such a good idea .. so many projects in boxes out of boxes sitting on the side .. your wee video has just kick my Butt into doing something tonight .. many thanks ..
Excellent news! I’m super glad I’ve motivated you to get stuff out of boxes and into that painting table. Now, don’t just start and then wimp out - you can do it and get it ALL done!!
Im a blood angels player, and I use contrast/speed paints.
I suggest doing brown for your base, either tan or light brown for your middle layer, and off white with your drybrush. Or you can do brown base, red, bright orange drybrush.
Then do your contrast paint over that.
It makes your reds look better.
Sounds like a good plan!
@@thestateofplay2023 if done right, your shadows will be a maroon color (light red looks when its in shadows) and your highlights will be bright red light the sun is hitting them, and everything in-between will be the proper shade of red for how much light is hitting it.
Tons better than black and varying shades of grey going to white. I did some like that and they looked ok..... But not right.
@codyott1982 is that using the citadel blood angels contrast? How do you do yellow helmets for assault marines?
Just started collecting/painting blood angels myself
@@hollyd8989 yea, for blood angels and blood angels red.
For my helmets, I go over them in grey then Vallejo model color ivory dry brush first.
Aaaand FINALLY a miniature painting video that actually gets into colour theory properly!! Added super-bonus is someone who actually understands that shadows are not black! Loved every second of this video, +1 new subscriber :)
Thank you. You know I never thought saying “shadows aren’t black” would be so controversial. I mean we all have eyes. We can literally look at them. 🤣🤣 but weirdly very few mini painters seem to reference the real world when painting. 🤷🏼♂️
Undercoats are perfectly understandable for faster jobs
But priming by brush really teaches you to be more financially responsible when you have to prime all of your stuff by hand
Now you tell me. Where were you when I spent £300 on rattlecans! 🤣🤣
It’s mainly a time thing. With two young kids, a job and a YT channel- I don’t have time or patience to prime by hand anymore.
@@thestateofplay2023 oh that's entirely understandable, it's kinda funny going through them one by one and realizing that I have plenty of models to paint
Don’t we all!!
The cost of rattle cans was the reason I bought an Airbrush (H&S Ultra v2) and a Timbertech-like compressor with tank. Bottles of primer are not expensive, certainly compared to the amount you will get from them vs can, and you can do beautiful gradients. I'm no artist never touched an AB before and I had smooth, perfect gradients within the first 30 minutes of opening my airbrush box. (But I had watched SOP review, and lots and lots of videos mainly Vince Venturella).
I think Vince is our hobby messiah. 🤣
I normally decide on the colour of primer based on the tone of colour I want. Example; bright red, prime white, mid red prime grey, dark red prime black. The colour theory in this video is real brainfood though and I love the thought of primer being "the first layer of colour". Great vid.
Thanks for saying that mate!!
Just as a major note, there is still a good use for a black prime. If you're going to be using a lot of true metallic paints, black works really well for that. A lot of heavily armored figures or vehicles being major ones there.
Most of my current major projects are more of just a grey primer there because it works well for different things tied into it, and works decently with a mix of metals and non-metals for aimed results.
Yes, you are absolutely correct. I guess I just want people to be aware that there are options. Don’t always immediately reach for the black. 😜👍🏼
This is a great tutorial video! Finally made the time to get into miniature painting last year and it’s incredibly cathartic and enjoyable. I’m 57 and hadn’t touched a miniature since my early teens when I would sit down with my friends and paint pewter miniatures for D & D. Im now subscribed, thank you!!
At 57 you’ll know that minis have changed drastically over the years. Aren’t they amazing now!! When we were kids they were lumps of badly squashed “lead”. Now they actually have faces that look like faces and not like Sloth from The Goonies!!
Since i started using an airbrush for priming there's no turning back . The amount of paint wasted, and dust created buy a rattle can drove me on to try again and lose my fear to use an airbrush...no turnig back now.
Great video and so many tips.
Yeah I mostly use rattlecans for terrain due to size and speed. But even then, airbrush is still preferable.
I sat on my airbrush for years and started a few days ago and omg what was I waiting for ... So smooth, so easy love it !
Such an amazing difference isn’t it.
sounds painful, did it leave any marks on ya rear?
Right on time! And completely agree on Acolyte!!!!!!
Great minds think alike!! 😜👍🏼
Thanks!
Thanks mate!!!!
Binge watching multiple videos a day. Never until now I saved a video to rewatch. You’re a wizard.
Really? Thank you so much. Not even my wife wants to see me that often! 🤣🤣
THIS was enlightening to say the least. And I love your witty, snarky humour.
Previous commenter were righg,- this IS a masterclass and also the best video on priming taking it to a stellar level.
Sub well earned.
Thank you very much!!
I am rather new to mini painting but come from an art background. Really boggled my mind why everyone seemed to prime in black. In classical painting you would usually prime with your shadow tones, mostly oranges, browns and purples to have a good contrast and mood already.
Glad to hear that isn't only me being surprised.
Totally get you. I’m from a fine art and design background and the whole black canvas thing always is me scratching my head. Great for some techniques like chalk or pastel but for bright acrylic paint?!
Truly a brilliant way to look at priming (and painting), well beyond what I have ever considered. The color theory incorporation is next level. Even as someone with color theory education, I hadn’t considered it in this application. Thank you 🙌
My absolute pleasure mate!
Helldunkel is my new name for it from now on. Thanks for that 😂
I mean I’d advise against but it really is a great word!!!
As someone whose passion for the hobby was reignited very recently (and who bought many paints & painting supplies that I barely ever used, if at all - including a fancy airbrush), this video served as additional motivation and a great source of insight. I’m very excited to finally get around to my hundreds of minis and the several games they belong to that I’ve yet to play (all with the same excuse of “I’m not playing until I get everything painted”), and I plan on watching your other videos so they can assist me on my journey.
PS: I already ordered some Molotow inks to use as airbrush primers! I was actually confused during that part of the video because everywhere else I look, people swear that you absolutely need primer paint in order to prime…makes me wonder what other miniature painting lies have been parroted to me over the years. 😧
There are literally hundreds of mini painting lies. Although technically they aren’t lies. They just get repeated by one person after another and never questioned. Like black primer. Why? Why do that to yourself so you can paint 70 layers to cover the black?! 🤣 there’s loads. Consistency of milk for an airbrush. Pull the needle out the front. Washing minis on sprues before paint. Opaque paint on a zenithal prime. And my favourite- brushes have a guide hair. All ….bollocks. 🤣🤣
I don't paint miniatures. In fact, for the last 25-ish years I've avoided painting anything. Then a few days ago a mask i had bought that was irritating me with its lack of depth and contrast inspired me to break it my old brushes and...ahem... go buy some paint. Searched one drybrush technique, and now my feed is flooded with miniatures. This video caught my eye, and now I'm noticing everything I did wrong on that damn mask... I had completely forgotten over the last 2 decades that "Shadows aren't black."
You've earned this sub, my good sir.
Thank you mate. I always appreciate it a bit more when someone who isn’t invested in the miniature topic takes time to say something nice. 👍🏼
I just started getting into his extensive and expensive hobby and as an art major, I really appreciate this video. It's helped remind me of everything I've forgotten from school involving color theory and I am SO excited to get into painting my Blood Angels, Jormungandr Tyranids and Thousand Suns! Thank you for the tips!
Ooh! Nice choices on the models!!
Came here as I just bought my first Blood Angel set, now I’m hooked on this channel. Excellent content👌
Thank you. Only sorry I can’t do this full time!
I wish I could like this video twice. Great information
Just dislike it and then like it again. 😜👍🏼
Awesome hidden tip, using a Lego plate for a dry brush test! Very cool!
I actually have another video with that exact tip! The one about fidget popper pallettes. 👍🏼
As an intermediate hobbyist I still learn a lot from every one of your videos! Your combination of narration, graphics and real life footage is really fun to watch :)
Thank you very much!
Fantastic job mate, I just got an airbrush and this video gave me everything I needed to make a good use of it !
Will dig your other content !
Cheers
Hope some of my other stuff is helpful too.
Never thought about mixing slapchop and using the multi color prime. Honestly a brilliant move that was right there
There’s lots of stuff in this hobby that are “slap your forehead” moments. Like using Lego as a drybrush pallette. 🤣 or putting a sock on the back of my airbrush booth ventilators to catch all the paint particles.
yay, new video!
wow, this is so impressive to watch... and at the same time so difficult! my brain started racing 5 times while I was watching it all... and this despite the fact that I already knew a good 60 percent... but don’t get me wrong, it’s not about the presentation, it’s about the material! it’s quite complex (if you’re not in the know), but it’s presented just beautifully!
color theory haunts me throughout my life, but I try to avoid it... apparently it has won after all. I need to sit down, figure it out and... hang circles with flowers around my work area
🤣 I tend to look at colour theory’s as A leads to B. So start with one colour and then work out the next. If I want my model to be say, green, I know I can use contrasting purple for shadows as well as dark green or blue because they sit side by side on the wheel.
Like so many things I found your video at the perfect time. For the last 6 months I have been building kits, and buying a few different primers, waiting for it to get warmer and me to finish my indoor spray booth.
Not only did I get the most in-depth lesson on priming. Yet there was so much more about beauty of mixing colours right from the very beginning, before even essentially buying any paint.
The timing could of not been more perfect, and presented in such a beautiful and insightful way. Thank you so much
Thanks for the compliment mate, I’m so glad it’ll help you out
This video was relatable, and motivational. After using an airbrush, I'd say that batch painting miniatures without an airbrush feels like painting a wall with a toothbrush.
Yea, I once cut my lawn with scissors just to prove to my better half that we needed a decent lawnmower. It worked.
Great video!
The multi color priming or pre shading needs to be the new trending method. Hope to see all your color primed miniatures fully painted regardless you already convinced me. Subscribed for sure!
Thanks mate. I hope this method helps.
Awesome video. Thanks for the different perspective on priming. I am definitely one of those prime black always guys, lol. I have some new ideas now moving forward that might help me slay more gray a lot faster.
I was the same. I used to get hella frustrated with how many coats I’d need over it though. Then when I was finished I was like “where’s the black gone!!”. 🤣🤣
Thank you for the run down on priming. I'm getting into painting via Battletech and appreciate shared knowledge.
A pleasure!!
Top notch video. Lacquer toxicity, speckly rattlecan zenithals, black spray being the wrong choice for most colours are all things people need to hear.
The one thing I'm dying for a good video on is primer durability. Consensus seems to be airbrush primer is far less durable than rattlecan and lacquers so the convenience doesn't feel like a good trade for gaming pieces.
Are the molotow acrylics special in any way that makes them suitable as priming? The airbrush primers tend to be acrylic-polyurethane mixes (which assume makes them more hard-wearing) rather than just pure acrylic.
You don’t need primer. Primer is a myth. I’ve got unprimed models from 38 years ago with no varnish that look the same today as they did when I was 10. Most modern acrylic is tough enough to just stay where you put it.
Molotow are graffiti acrylics. Designed to work on walls outdoors in all weather.
So 2 things as dar as what i learned from long ago and recently:
1. Choice of base color does matter. If you use black, then put something other than black on it, it will darken it. Use white and it will lighten it. Red and it will change the color a bit.
2. Unless the base coat is the exact color you want and you wont be painting over the whole thing. Pick a base coat different than the finish color so you can make sure you hit everything. Me, i got a bunch of stormtroopes to paint, i will be using a off white with a slight blue paint after base coat, so im making my base coat a light blue. Its close to what im painting next while being different to know that i will get everything when im done.
Makes total sense.
The quality of your videos is insane. Pivoted from UA-cam on the console to my phone just to make sure you get the love you deserve.
I follow a lot of other channels intermittently and your commentary making some of the colour theory feel relevant and accessible is just quality. You seem like an absolute pro!
Thanks mate. I guess when you enjoy what you do, it helps to show others.
@@thestateofplay2023 I fixed my comment to be clear I was just saying I watch a lot of other channels many will be familiar with, e.g. Goobertown, Dana Howl, Squidmar etc...
They're great in their own ways, but I personally feel like when it comes to explaining "art" concepts you have your own niche which will benefit a lot of folks.
Just another comment for the algo, nothing to see here 👀
Thanks
I just got into mini painting, and this has just opened my mind like a good shroom would for a hippie!
🤣🤣🤣 Nice comparison!
The various quips were priceless...white lines, lol 🤣
Ah you’ve worked in 90s advertising too. Nuff said!
this guy is a riot !
This is an absolute masterclass not only in the topic at hand, but how all UA-cam videos should be done 👏🏻
Really?! Thank you. I’m humbled.
@@thestateofplay2023 concise but detailed, excellent humour, top notch production and awesome minis... What's not to love? 😅
Quick note for Vallejo airbrush primer. It works way better if you think it with the tamiya x20a thinner. Polyurethane reacts with water.
This is where I totally slap my brow and why didn’t I think of that!! It’s not like I don’t have the damn ingredients!! Thank you. Now I can use it up.
@@thestateofplay2023 it was one of those oh crap moments when I accidentally put the thinner in without thinking as I also use xf2 for white. That stuff is magic. I saw it didn't do anything funny instantly and thought I'll try spray that and wow what a difference. No clogs smooth coverage so now I can use my German panzer grey primer again.
I tried it once with some citadel and got a weird thick soup. I’ll give it another go.
@@thestateofplay2023 Vallejo primer it works perfectly. I've not tried other paints though.
I know this comments a bit old, but what ratio? 1:1? I’ll have to give it a shot, even if I haven’t had that many issues with Vallejo
I genuinely thought I knew how to prime. Now I have such a better understanding of what I'm doing right and what I'm mostly getting wrong. Thank you, I am definitely going to come back to this for reference.
Glad it could help you out!
Ah. Prime Day. I see what you did there.
Great video as always!
I just realised that after I uploaded it as I got the email from Amazon! Not intentional but hey, if it gets a few more views…🤣🤣
Top notch observation! I can't believe I missed that!
I can’t believe I missed that! On Amazon now….hmm, some good deals. And some that are just flat out lies with the same price as before. 😳
@@thestateofplay2023 I had 12 or so things in my basket, most with no change. But two clear acrylic display stands and Anycubic water washable resin both 20% discounted - I got those. Only so I have more minis to print and display coated in a black primer ;)
Amazing! You made this all sensible, so many content creators have failed where you succeeded. So glad I found this. Now, I paint on with renewed vigor :)
Brilliant news! So glad it didn’t confuse people!
You all prime black for shading.
I prime black because it tolerates the humidity here down south.
*We are not the same*
State of Play is a new favorite hobby channel now. I love the color theory, and I hadn't considered the orientation of the color wheel for 'movement' of color. This is awesome.
Yeah it’s weird that a simple lock of a colour wheel in place can change colour progression. I “lock” yellow at the top if zenithaling up to white. But often lock a shadow at the bottom. Or a different colour at the top depending on what I’m going for.
when slapchop first started gaining traction i though i would lose my mid shouting at the screen every time "BlAcK is A tErRiBle cHoicE fOr A baSe!" ... glad i dont have to do that anymore.
I think it’s based on the old masters who used it for oil painting. But what is usually ignored is that they painted completely over it and only used it for a tonal guide.
@@thestateofplay2023 you're probably right. It was a common issue in illustration too. There's a ton of photoshop tutorials out there that start with black and white tonal sketches and almost all of them end up with a muddy-looking final product.
Ok this is amazing. I’ve been painting for 30 years and doing it semi competitively for like 20 and I STILL learned so much. I’ve waisted so much time needlessly glazing… great job man!
Thanks for the compliment mate. From a veteran hobbyist too!
This is one of those things that the fine scale modelers do well and that the miniature gaming world could learn from. I was a fine scale modeler long before I got into wargaming and I’ve always considered primer color before painting my little dudes because of that.
Like the video mentioned, I too always just thought it was a lazy aspect of miniature painters wanting to get armies on the table as fast as they can. I’m now wondering if it is a lack of awareness of such techniques. I often see miniature painters “discover” something like it is some brand new technique that never existed. I’m looking at you SlapChop enjoyers.
I’d encourage wargamers to explore fine scale modeler channels and even the model railroader channels. You can learn a lot from those folks and even learn techniques that they have been doing for decades. Techniques that should have been a thing long ago in this hobby.
I, like you, started as a scale modeller back in the 80s so brought much of the concepts over.
I think miniature painters got used to quick drying acrylics. There’s are a few things I didn’t continue as we scale modellers don’t tend to touch a model after it’s finished so anything that could rub off got dropped.
I've always said that model railroading and mini wargaming are basically the same hobby. You push your little guys around the board and either go "Choo Choo" or "Pew Pew".
I highly recommend anyone not using a airbrush to get AK fine primer. Just used some on a new army im building and wow..... That stuff gives me the same results as using a airbrush but with a rattle can primer. Was skeptical and scared it would not cover good but im extremely surprised how well it worked. Definitely a recommendation of mine. Absolutely amazing video btw! The amount of information in this video was down right amazing! Thank you!
No, no. Thank YOU for the tip on AK fine primer. Hobby tips work both ways! 👍🏼👍🏼
Cracking video as always.
Cheers Scott!
i just discovered your channel, and thank you for all the advice, going to save me time for my pile of shame.... 40 years of collectionning and no time to paint, i think i have enough until the end of my life lol
You and me both matey!! 👍🏼 I’m determined to get through all of it just so my kids can trash it all when I’m gone. 🤣🤣🤣
@@thestateofplay2023 yeah i'm trying to do the same, finished my new work/pain table to start working. lucky me (or not lol), my son is playing too lmao
This was mint, just broke it down really simply, north east accent also detected so double win.
Aye! Cheers for that! You can take the man out of the north east but he never really leaves the Metrocentre!
I've referred back to this video dozens of times in just the last couple days. Thank you so much for this 🙏🏽
🤣 Don’t watch me too much. According to my wife I will get on your nerves after a short space of time! 👍🏼
and we say: "thank you, Marco Frisoni!"
We do indeed! Same art background as me I think. Using fine art techniques in mini painting.
I will have to watch this a few more times. This is excellent work. I'm glad to see people returning to color theory and not just slopping on the paint. I am guilty of running straight to the white over black zenithal and getting very dissappointed.
Yeah I wondered what happened n UA-cam. Just seems to be people painting the latest GW boxes thesedays. Like every single creator.
I used to brush prime everything black.
I also used to hate painting.
Do you like painting now? I assume you changed from black to something else?
Great video man, thanks! I don´t remember color theory explained so well in any video before. I have always been priming with black and sometimes grey, then contrast paints, so this got me thinking to try more grey at least. I have always aimed more for those dark contrast areas in the recesses.
Thanks mate. Yeah try a few different lighter colours and see how it works. As I said in the bud black always tends to mute down all the colours when adding contrast paints.
I lost it at "a little bit like the acolyte" lmfao.
My loves are intersecting.
Gotta get those cultural references in somehow. 🤣🤣
@@thestateofplay2023 I didn't think it was a good idea, it kind of loses anyone who does like the show.
C'mon, really??? If you're so fanboy and insecure not to watch the channel just because Will tells you the truth... you don't belong here (and I mean ON THE INTERNET)!
They should grow up and open their eyes. Start to see when politics poison a TV show. Learn what makes a decent story and what makes a character interesting! In short, learn to judge a product objectively...🧐
@@Fbs... I didn't say that, I said that his point loses fans of the show. That's because if you like the show it doesn't any sense
@@nozero1 I'm saying that he shouldn't care! 'Cause if they DON'T UNDERSTAND MOVIES AND TV SHOWS and they're willing to make a fuss over every little thing they disagree with (even JOKES!), then it's better for Will to lose them! Many channels have been ruined by these people with no taste nor culture.
I might give that satin varnish idea for speed paints. for awhile I kinda never know why my paint jobs were semi spotty in some areas, followed normal advice of trying not to pool to much, use the proper amount. Nothing worked, so I might give the varnish idea a shot and see how it works.
The satin won’t solve it completely but it’ll certainly help contrast flow better. But being honest, the best way it to thin contrast 50/50 with contrast medium and use two coats over that satin prime. 👍🏼
"Brush on primer is like Star Wars the Acolyte."
You sir, are the hero this hour needs.
Ah not according to some comments but hey, I stand by my opinions. 👍🏼
@@thestateofplay2023 Who are these shills? Point them to me.
@@lcmiracle I am one of them, what are you gonna do bout it bud?
Hate me for liking the show more than the ungodly trilogy?
The only brush on prime that works is Vallejo black. Even then it still has a few problems every now and again.
Just started searching about the miniature painting hobby and I was flabbergasted on everyone always using black as primer, so I refused to accept it and found your video lol. Coming from a painting background, using black as an underpaint and shadows make everything looking muddy and all of your color theory stuff was on point. Really nice video!!!
Thanks. Well, I applaud you for starting the right way and questioning what you’ve been told. Keep it up!! 😜👍🏼
11:44 yes, because that money is definitely not going to be spent on more tiny plastic men...
Well yes. Of course, but you don’t say THAT straight away….🤣🤣🤣
This video is a gem!
Thank you so much for this! I came for a video on priming and I ended up with a proper masterclass on colour theory .
The coloured primed slapchop is the way to go
Glad it helped. So many people have gone in different directions from this video I’m so happy it informed!! 👍🏼
Christ, the UA-cam algorithm actually came through for once. Instead of throwing me ridiculous videos of Yanks shouting at each other it's everything I needed to know just before I unpack (after buying it four years ago . . . ahem) my airbrush! Cheers!
Not a problem. For the last three weeks I’ve had YT serving me up Ben Shapiro videos. I’ve never once clicked on one.
@@thestateofplay2023 I discovered YT Shorts about 6 months ago (or 'Grandad TikTok' as my daughter was quick to name it) and it all started off lovely with loads of history, science and philosophy. Now I've got a stream of snide 'high value' men putting down rooms full of OnlyFans girls, 'cops gone bad' and Japanese girls in big boots all doing the same dance in the street. And when I click on 'want to try something different' it gives me Korean girls doing the same dance. I'm just waiting for Ben Shapiro to join in. Possibly while Charlie Kirk and Bill Maher provide a beat-box vocal track in the manner of that chap off Police Academy. Time to turn off and read a book, I feel. Thanks for this video anyway. Really handy. I'm a total wuss about airbrushes but I've got to just bite the bullet. I've ordered stuff on your advice: wish me luck . . .
Now I could go a bunch of Korean dancing girl vids! Hmmm, where’s the short feed….😜
@@thestateofplay2023 Maybe the algorithm knows us better than we think. Bayes was right . . .
Brilliant writing and presentation. Perfection.
Thank you !
Ha, you mentioned The Acolyte, and the video got interrupted with an ad for... The Acolyte!
Foil hats on, guys! 😅
Really?! Well I guess they have to push it as no one is watching. I guess that’s how ads on UA-cam work, they match them to the words a UA-camr says, maybe?
@thestateofplay2023 it would not surprise me if that's how it actually works. I haven't seen The Acolyte, and more ads won't get me to see it
@@thestateofplay2023 Thats Option 1... Option 2 is "The Algorythm says NERDS"
@@ex0ne well basing your opinion on the word of others is not always the best way to go, you know. When I heard most of the hate is on diverse characters and "space lesbians" I decided I'll watch it and enjoy it.
And that I did. Wasn't perfect for sure, but wasn't half terrible as ppl say.
I initially dismissed the title as clickbait, but it's absolutely accurate. Fantastic advice, thank you!
Thanks. Yeah I try to completely avoid anything clickbait as I hate that myself!
That "like backstage at a 1990s award show" was way too specific to be improvised.
Yes, it was….😳😳😜
How this only got 14 likes! Come on guys this guys a top lad
It's a 26 minute video and it's only been up 25 minutes!
Haha! Thanks, but give it time. I reckon people might be at work. I know I am. 😜
Yeah and after taking 36 days to make this to spray over a 1000 models I didn’t expect any UA-cam love from the algorithm. 😜🤣
@@ThorekIronbrow 😂😂😂
I’m not sure why but typing in “state of play” I didn’t even get you in my top results. It’s possible your channel name doesn’t help UA-cam/googles string matching due to the terms being so common.
That said, I do have confidence you will grow exponentially due to the sheer quality of your work.
This is a 10/10 video that I'll be coming back to again and again I'm sure.
Thank you. I guess I’ll see you again! 😜
Please don't use normal rattle can paint. It has WAY more texture than specialised rattle can primer. The pigment isn't nearly as fine. And when you're painting something so small, you don't want large pigments. Obviously there is a place in this hobby for normal rattle can paint. But tiny models aren't it
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So any model larger than an old scale space marine? A $5 can is still preferable to a $20 can for priming tanks if the difference is only noticeable if held at eye level under beginner level paint jobs
@giantninja9173 anything with small details I wouldn't use a normal rattle can primer on. Clogs them up.
Used Army Painter white primer today for 1st time and never going back to regular primer.
@Meglin1461 out of curiosity have you ever had this issue or are you just repeating internet echo chamber wisdom?
Fantastic! Thank you for the great video. I recently picked up my models again after 20 yrs. I was thinking about a lot of these very ideas. I have still been doing art just not painting the minis. This confirmed and also gave me a lot of ideas.
Brilliant. Glad it was a jumping off point for you! Enjoy your models!!
Brilliant, thanks for this. Getting models done would be great after 25 years of procrastinating....
🤣🤣🤣 only 25 years. Give it a few more and you’ll be absolutely ready to start! 😜👍🏼
Thank you for yet another video with excellent advice. I just recently dipped my toe in the water of color primer. I needed to paint 16 identical army troops and found a good camo green that both primed and served as the base coat for a large chunk of the minis. Also bought a dark blue primer to get a start on a similar lot of mobsters wearing dark suits. It was extremely helpful but this vfdeo opens up many more possibilities by adding a 2nd color to the mix. I'll definitely have to give that some thought even if my grasp of color theory isn't nearly as developed as yours.
Good option here is to pick up a lighter version of the camo green. 👍🏼
I use many different versions of Vallejo and Warpainter paint. If you know how to thin the paint, you'll seldom ever have issues. Airbrushing will always be more affordable than spray cans. Even Amazon airbrush kits are good now. I use those and Iwatas. They're both great. Like everything in life, you just need to practice to get better at what you're trying to do.
I agree. To a point. SOME Amazon airbrushes are good. Many simply can’t be cleaned properly leading to them dying super quick. 😄
I love your mentality on painting! So refreshing and motivating! Thanks for your videos!
Yup. My mentality is get it done using the most efficient way possible. Not always the way everyone else does or even the same way per model, unit or squad! 😜
From primer to colour theory and contrasts. I don't paint these. I paint scale model trucks, BUT I sure as learnt one heck of a lot from this. You are a clever man
That’s where I started. Not trucks but spaceships. Trucks without wheels. 🤣🤣
This is one of the best painting videos on YT right now, grats.
Thanks mate!
As someone just getting into the mini painting hobby, and seeing scores of videos, this is one of the most fantastic tutorials that I've ever seen, a perfect mix of color theory and implementation practices, plus even humor to keep it entertaining. Thank you for making this! Subbed and will check out your other videos.
Thanks for saying mate!
I finally got my first air brush when I looked at a pile of used rattle cans and realized how much I was spending on rattle cans. I was shocked at how much I was spending on spray paint, when I couldn't even properly mix colours the way one can mix them with the air brush. I don't know why I was intimidated by the air brush and compressor.This video really is about working smarter rather than harder. It took me years to figure it out.
It adds up and you don’t even realise!!
I learned to take advantage of my primer very early in my hobby beginnings. I built all my armies color schemes around the primer. It was one of the best decisions I ever made.
It would appear you are steps ahead of many others! 👍🏼
Outstanding video. I've never tried an airbrush before, but you have made some really good points on both the cost and time savings. I'll be going back and rewatching your air brush video a couple times to pull some suggestions and information. I also like your quote on how to sell the idea to the wife. Thanks and keep the videos rolling.
It worked on my wife! 🤣
There is only one issue with the core idea: rattlecans are more expensive than paint.
God forbid i employ my need for variety in colors but on my rattlecans.
Moreso, unlike normal paint, you can't mix primers to find more nuanced base coats if you want that route too.
But if you know what you want, priming as the base just seems common sense to me.
Awesome video despite my nitpick, i really do appreciate videos that actually show the differences in technique
I can’t disagree with you. Rattlecans are expensive and can’t be mixed. But you’d be surprised how many people flatly refuse to even consider an airbrush or any alternative to rattlecans.
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Another excellent introduction and advanced info video again. Thanks for the tips!
A pleasure as always!
subbed, I neither game nor paint. The sake of learning and the banter are good too.
Well I thank you for your sun. Maybe there’ll be something to my madness that peaks your hobby curiosity. 😜
This guys fantastic, and the interactions with the comments section are great too.
That’s because I read every comment because if people take the time to write - then I should take the time to….sorry, what was I saying? I bored myself to sleep. 🤣
honestly only just starting out the warhammer painting but this video really helped and really considering buying an airbrush
I don’t think i I could do this hobby without an airbrush now. It’s so convenient and much much quicker
I have never understood the pink undertones for yellow until now! thank you so much. A lot of info to digest.
If you like sweets (candies) buy a box with coloured transparent wrappers. You can use these to look through to see what colour a paint will go when you spray it on top. And you get loads of sweets to eat!!
Hello! I've just found your channel and it is an instant autosub! I've been into the hobby for last 5 years, and never ever YT showed me your content. Now I need to catch up :) Love the way you provide information. Thank you, and ... happy hobbying!
Thank you Michael. Nice to know I have an audience and am not just shouting into the wind. 🤣🤣🤣
First time I've seen your videos. I'll be back!. Very informative, educational and a nice hint of comedy.
Thank you. Looking forward to having you back! 👍🏼