Soundcheck & Mixing A 4 Band Rock Show (FOH POV)
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- Опубліковано 14 тра 2024
- This show we had 4 bands come through the venue. Headliner did soundcheck and was using their own guitar and bass cabs. The rest of the bands used our house cabs and drums.
Bands in this video:
Crown Victoria: / crownvictorianjpunkrock
Love's Over-Rated: / lovesoverated
Pyramada: / pyramada
Badfellaz: / badbadfellaz
TIME STAMPS:
00:00 - Intro
01:50 - Sound check first band
06:34 - Crown Victoria takes the stage
08:10 - Love's Over-Rated takes the stage
10:11 - Changeover to headliner
13:10 - Pyramada takes the stage
16:27 - Badfellaz on the stage
18:39 - Cleanup / Close
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I’m always amazed how performers don’t understand to sing or play during soundcheck at the volume they’re going to do it at during a show.
It’s one of life’s unsolved mysteries.
Whenever I have a gig with the band I Just do every type of voice. Starting with the softer singing voice and ending with the death metal vocals. So even if the sound guy doesnt know what we play, atleast he knows what kind of vocal levels he can expect.
From the sound guys perspective: we want as loud as you’re going to sing so we know where the ceiling is. That way we can compensate with extra gain when you sing softer, knowing that the death metal voice is coming.
I’ve worked with a variety of bands over the years, it’s so hard to get them to give you a proper serious sound check! They do not and will not understand proper gain structure.
I've always felt some hold back so they'll be more prominent in the mix.
When I lived in Russia before the war, I worked as a sound engineer at the same venue in a club. It was 5-7 years ago. Man, you made me nostalgic. Everything is the same as in Russia, I think that it is the same everywhere. The same vocalists who are afraid of the microphone and stand far from it, sound check at a quiet volume. The same phrases, the same communication with the artists, the same humor. People are the same as everywhere else. I watch your work, everything is exactly the same, only the language is different. And everything is clear. And I am very glad that you care about the artist, in addition to technical work, you also add an artistic part. Raise the reverb, or make the vibrato fader on the guitar solo.
I do what I can to make sure the performers on stage feel as good as they can feel while playing. Appreciate it!
I think you found your niche mate, these videos are totally interesting and enjoyable, plus I am learning about bands I never knew before. Keep this up and all the best!
Appreciate it. The least I can do for these bands is give them a plug if these videos blow up.
I’m a photographer by day so I’ll be uploading content featuring that as well, but yeah, primary content is live sound and pro audio.
Ah yes! At 0:45.. In Texas in the summer, these are our most dedicated and appreciated "fans". They are there for every performance. 😂
"I enjoyed the lightshow myself" That's gotta feel good man!
Hell yeah. One little comment like that and I not only remember the band but will put even more effort into the rest of the show and that bands next time playing there.
Thanks for doing more of this Chris!
My pleasure!
love this videos dude, keep going!
Appreciate it 🤘
this is quality content right here. Keep it up man!!
Appreciate it!🤘
love these videos, very interesting to see what goes on while preparing a show :)
Glad you like them!
These POV of FOH are nice to watch. It's interesting to see how different guys go through the workflow processes. Nice job !!
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so interesting, you guys are well under appreciated
If a band says “you made us sound great” or “it sounded perfect up here” (I HATE doing monitors) it makes my whole day.
Thank you so much for sharing! Would love to see your process as you mix each instrument. 😊
Full gear and mixer settings breakdown is my next video. Uploading tomorrow.
Found your channel a few days ago, love the content, sir! Definitely inspired
Glad to be inspiring
love these vids!
Glad you like them!
Please keep doing these!
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Respect to you, Man. Handling the Stage and Sound system for 4 bands is not easy. Great job, great video.👍👍👍
Appreciate it. 4 bands is a typical show. Sometimes there are five up to seven bands a show, depending on the showcase.
I love your FOH engineering Videos please make more
That’s the plan!
The venue, they're lucky to have you, damn.
Multiple acts a night, plus lights, managing the load-in and the load-out, ... brother, you're doing the work of two.
@13:33 Pryamada's opener, this stereo capture sounds like it the club sound would've been great.
Well resolved bass clarity, transients cutting through nicely ...
Nicely done.
Appreciate it. The room was recorded with a little TASCAM stereo recorder.
Found your channel last week. Really digging this content man.
Glad you like it 🤘
Kick ass content. You can find tons of protools guys, but not as many live sound engineering content. Since I am a FOH mixer, I like watching how others work. 👍
Appreciate it. I mix in Logic when I do studio work or live recordings.
Amazing work man, I'm learning to be an audio engineer in my country and your videos have helped me a lot, keep doing this!!!
Cheers from Mexico 🍻
Cheers! 🤘
Hell yeah. I love this content
Appreciate it 🤘
I think it's funny how some singers soundcheck for literally 3 seconds before going "Good?" hahaha. Keep up the great work, love these videos!
It’s a mystery 🤷♂️
Appreciate it!
perfect
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This is amazing. I'm not sure there's anything like this on UA-cam. I used to be a DJ at a rock/metal bar. And we used to have a band or 2 on every friday and saturday night. The amount of bands I saw. I was 17/18 when this was going on. I'm 34 now. Not sure we had gopro's as such back then. But god I wish I filmed those nights.
This has bought alot of memories back to those days.
Awesome video's.
Thanks! 🤘 It’s a pretty fun gig.
Oh man, FOUR BANDS ! you have my sympathy young man. I did that kind of thing 30 years ago and I’m still recovering !
4 bands is a small night 😅
Great video. I would like to see more of this content.
Will be providing more of this content.
@@chrishammillaudio Greate!
your videos are incredible man, keep it up! big ups from rockland county haha
Cheers! Will do 🤘
Another great video!
I did sound in a 250 person warehouse venue for 5 years that didn't have a/c (I realize yours is just broken). Ours had windows we could open to let some air flow through, but this reminded me of how hot and sweaty it would get.
It was BRUTAL this night. Not the hottest show I did but I was feeling tired by the end of it. Can only imagine how hot and tired the bands were.
@@chrishammillaudio I feel you mate. I could see how much the bands were sweating when you were up flipping over.
I use an M32C, and only use an ipad for mixing, and there was times where it became unresponsive because I was dripping so much on it.
please keep on doing these type of videos!!!!
That’s the plan!
Let’s gooo another one 🤘🤘🤘
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Good to see someone that runs sound for a local show and doesn’t just do a basic sound check and then walk away from the board the rest of the set
It’s sad that bands are surprised when I show I care. I’m sorry for all of those times they had bad sound guys.
Great video. Keep it up.
Greetings from Mexico 🇲🇽
Greetings! 🤘
I'm a FOH engineer in London, working at around 15 dif clubs. This is a pretty accurate view into what I face on a shift. Great content mate.
15 clubs?! Damn! Busy body over there! Kick ass.
Awesome bro.. 🙌🙌🙌
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Great video...keep it up
Rock on 🤘
Providing set list to engineer is 🤘
I don’t know why more bands don’t do this. It helps me out greatly to not only have an script for your set performance, but any solo and light cues I get make my job that much easier.
I really like your videos. You’re doing a great job! Sometime if you could do a video walk-through of the equipment in the venue that would be cool. I’m curious what the monitors are.
That is the next video I’m posting.
I loved the contrast between this video and the one with 3-band metal tour package (with Satan as the headliner). The difference in professionalism between those 2 was huge haha.
We got there in the end for every show. It's all that matters.
@@chrishammillaudio Sure ! I was not trying to knock the bands in this video, we've all been there and their attitude was good.
Once again in your therapeutic company.
Glad it helps!
Please dont stop doing this video.
Don’t plan on stopping.
Cool
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Notice in 8:15, i agree, in ear monitors are marvelous!
They are an absolute necessity especially for performers who have had their hearing faded away over time.
@@chrishammillaudio Not only for this reason, but for those artists who want higher quality in their monitoring (preferably in stereo), preventing and preserving their hearing over the years.
Love this video, please for the next video, we need record from mixer budy❤ thankyu
Then it won’t be about what I hear in the room anymore. The stereo mix from the board will sound different than what you hear now from my stereo room recorder.
I make my mixing decisions based on what I hear in the room, not what I hear on the board.
Awesome video. New Zealand soundie here.
Welcome! 🤘
Always had so much respect for sound engineers. Fairly lucky in that, most bands I've been in, there's usually one guy who's a sound wizard. So, I've absorbed minimal knowledge/picked up a few tricks and tips over the years. But this POV insight is really cool/interesting + this seems like it's a great job! I'm sure there are odd days where everything goes wrong. But man, got to say I appreciate you guys and gals in this line of work immensely! I've ended up in many arguments with band mates/fellow musicians over the years, who feel entitled enough to be A holes to sound techs. They're somehow always too dim to realise, P off the sound guy, they can absolutely wreck your gig if they're inclined too!! 😂👌 Really entertaining video. Love the positivity too. Keep doing what you do! 🤘🤘
Appreciate it. I’ve had my share of egotistical musicians, but happily most of the bands who came through this place have been really cool to work with. The most frustrating aspect is a green musician who has little to no experience playing live and I have to almost coach them, but even then when the light goes on in their head and they see why I’m doing what I’m doing and asking them what I’m asking them, they are usually very appreciative.
@@chrishammillaudio I don't doubt it. I've seen a lot of that first hand over the years. Started a band when I was 15. So no doubt I was very green for a while. But took advantage and tried to sponge everything I could. Had some good role models and just as usefully, some bad ones that show you how not to behave. Ego just makes everything take longer, blocks improvement, hurts the band, affects the gigs, makes audiences uncomfortable. People can pick up on that stuff and it's never fun to be at those gigs. I mean, there's incredibly rare exceptions of virtuosity where the audience can forgive (ish) the giant ego. But even then, everything else still suffers for it. I've played with a few bigger bands I wish I didn't have to have met. But thankfully it's a minority too. The louder, negative 10% over the calmer, positive 90. It's such a blast though. It's been 15 years and I still get as excited about playing live/bands/music as I did when I was 16. Something very special about that. 😊😊😊👌🎶😎🙏🎧
These video are good
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Very interesting. I hope I get to work with you and hit that stage someday!
If you ever play Dingbatz you can talk to the booking agent for the club and request me. Or you can just message me the date you’re playing and I can do sound just for your band.
@@chrishammillaudio next time we book some US stuff it’ll be the first place I ask for. Thanks for the educational vids! Cheers from Canada
@@mattmurray517 Awesome! Cheers!
You're an absolute premium engineer. Wish we had more people like you 15 years ago when I was in a band. Side note, do you cut out the band interactions? I remember back in the day if you wanted to sound good you really needed to work with the engineer. Which made for quite a bit of back and forth, dialing in sounds, greasing the wheels a bit so your band sounds loudest and proudest that night haha. Love your content.
Appreciate it!
Band interactions as in? I cut a lot out in between soundcheck takes because a lot of that is personal conversations with the band and/or language that will instantly get me demonetized.
I almost have no talking between songs parts because you guys like the mixes and pov of me operating the board. Although if a band says something funny between songs I’ll feature it.
I rarely go up on stage during changeover because I’m focused on getting the stage ready for the next band. I keep forgetting to but I can set up my phone to record a Timelapse from the console of changeover just as a break between band sets.
Wow you stay at about 85 db - that’s amazing? Not easy with live drums and amps on stage…. Great video by the way -)
I always aim for 70-90 max. Cheers. 🤘
@@chrishammillaudio great for yours and the peoples hearing 👂🏻 👍
Awesome video. I love watching stuff like this! Haha! I had a couple of topics I wondered if you could touch on maybe with some future video.
1. Maybe a video suggesting how bands might prepare a setlist on paper with details for a sound engineer. You touched on it in this video. But I wouldn’t mind seeing a dedicated video From you on this topic. Maybe even a template for a starting point for bands.
2. I went direct from my helix to the p.a. for the first when I played at dingbatz. It was a little nerve racking cause it was weird to not have a cab pushing air behind me. But everything went pretty good. My question to you is as a sound engineer do you prefer a quiet stage in smaller clubs/venues. I plan on switching between using my amp and going direct based on the size of the venue for future shows. But I wonder what’s your take on the subject.
If a band can include their set list with any notes that a solo of any type is in it, that would be fantastic. You can do exactly what the band did in this video and we will greatly appreciate it.
I prefer 50 W amps the best for smaller venues and quieter volume to get the best mix levels possible.
I do volunteer FOH at my House of Worship (HOW). I can't imagine having to do 4 bands in one night. I also can't imagine running lights and sound, I get too focused on listening to the audio and forget about the lights. Ditto what others have said about sound check levels. I've been doing this since 1978 (yep, I'm an old boomer type lol) and musicians are always louder during performance. In my current HOW, we have 2 reversals before performance, each gets stronger. Thanks for posting theses videos and lots of respect!
You're welcome. I always set my compressor and gain levels about 1/4 more/less than I would during sound check just because I know the vocals are gonna be louder. Bass and guitars are usually okay (but we all know guitar and bass players that can't help themselves but to turn up their amps).
Where is this?
You are a real PRO. I have been working as a "stage help/drumtech" at cruises and festivals. You are working fast and know your stuff.
The banner is on the stage…
Dude "enjoyed the lightshow (himself)"... Never mind everything ELSE!
Geez... I actually think he thought you were only running lights.
I stopped rolling but he said it was a fantastic sounding set on stage.
Hands Down. Best Sound Engineering UA-camr on the platform.
I’m flattered but highly disagree. There are people here who have 30+ years of experience and knowledge on me that tour with huge acts. I just work at a local venue. Appreciate the comment but I wouldn’t put my skills and knowledge with those well seasoned pros.
Best FOH UA-camr ... agreed.
Not your just your skill, it's much more.
All the cool attributes, but a primarily it's the visual aesthetic, the perspective from the mix position, the proximity of the stage, uniformity left-to-right ... it all works visually.
Plus the sound check stuff is always gold ...
Stonefly would love to come play this venue!! Lets do some show trading!
You can email the venue at their website.
12:26 perfect cable winding
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Great video, man. It's often live engineering is sorta looked over, but in reality a lot of responsibility and pressure lies on the engineer to deliver a well sounding show. And if shit hits the fan, you bet your ass people are gonna be looking at you to magically fix everything with a snap. I'm wondering how you deal with those type of situations and that pressure? (that is, if you have been in them yet :p)
I dealt with that countless times. I go out of my way to not acknowledge the people who complain to me at the booth, rather just keep my eyes focus on the stage and the board. The people complaining usually get the hint and leave me alone. One time I had a loudmouth punk scream at me that he is “a professional audio engineer” and he can do my job better. I asked him a very basic elementary audio question about feedback. When he couldn’t answer the question, I told him to step away and shut up. For as bad as the audience turned on me with rock and metal shows, hip-hop shows are next level hostile.
@@chrishammillaudio
Interesting, hostile, like mix critical, or general interactions?
If the people just want to ask me a question about the gear, I answer them, but not during a set. They usually ask after a set or after a show.
If I'm getting parents of a band of kids on stage complaining they can't hear the reincarnation of John Lennon they spawned, I nod and put up a fader that is a dead channel to make them go away, then adjust anything that actually needs to be adjusted if necessary, which 80% of the time is nothing. Their parents just want their kid to be the loudest thing in the room.
If I'm getting assholes coming to me telling me how to do my job, I usually ignore them or tell them they're not my boss and leave me alone.
Cool video. I'm surprised to see you use Reaper on the mac. Reaper is great, and the price can't be beat, but Logic always seems like a no-brainer on a mac.
I use Logic on my laptop. If I was the only tech at the club I’d use my Logic license there.
@@chrishammillaudio Got it. Do you notice much of a difference between the two? I've been helping my kid get set up with Reaper and while different, it seems to be incredibly functional. I'm going to download a Logic theme just to be consistent.
There is zero different in audio quality between any DAW. The only difference that would affect the raw recording is the interface and the quality of which you’re recording at.
As a fellow sound guy from across the pond, loud HI-hats in small venues suck! I feel your pain!
Getting the vocals to sound great with the cymbals is a nightmare and the bane of my existence.
@@chrishammillaudio i know what you mean, i have convinced a few drummers to use screens but most don't like the idea.
If a good drum screen wasn't close to $700 I'd buy one myself but I'd rather customize my Mustangs exhaust than spend it on a screen drummers are just going to hang their sweaty shirts on.
@@chrishammillaudio a good point and well made hah!
what kind of mains, subs(location) and monitors are you using?
its sounds awesome great job
Full venue gear breakdown video in video description
Interesting to see how you manage feedback on stage and out front. It always seems to be an issue when we set up, the singers always want more volume but I can’t get there without feedback. Do you ring out the rig, or just know the room and monitor placement so well you don’t have too?
The less a singer projects, the more gain I have to add to compensate, therefor more monitor gain so he/she can hear, the more prone to feedback. Some sets it's either I kill a lot of the upper mids/high end and the singer can't hear any clarity or I literally ride the mic faders when anyone isn't singing to minimize feedback issues.
Awesome! Any tips for a guitarist to set up their tone? I’ve never played live through a Pa, but probably will be with my current band. Are there any important eq Settings I have to dial in? I’m wondering whether my high end will take everybody’s head off 😅
Your sound guy will tell you if they need you to adjust your EQ on the amp if needed or we will adjust where we place the mic. In general don’t scoop out all of the mids to try and imitate Dimebag, because you won’t sound like him. Second, don’t put your high end all the way up.
Set your amp up in whatever practice room you rehearse in and get a tone where it’s loud enough for your ears without being painful. The pain frequencies are somewhere in the upper mids between 2-6k.
Great advice ...
solid tone, absent of harshness
@@chrishammillaudio thanks!
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Phillustration : Listen to your tone from the crowd position (wireless helps, otherwise a long instrument cable will do), with no ear protection (because they change the perception of sound).
Do you ever have to deal with drummers using triggers and samples?
Also, fellow Reaper user here! Is setting up a live recording like that for a band's set cost extra, and is it something you need to know about in advance?
Yes. Hate triggers. I want to hear real drums.
Most of the time it’s a trigger on a kick to get that Vinnie Paul snap sound.
I have a project template in reaper where every input on the stage box is labeled in Reaper. All I do is arm the inputs I’m using and hit record.
It doesn’t cost a band extra for me to record and sent them the raw multitracks. If they want me to mix it myself it’s $100. Most of the time I’m editing out cymbal bleed in Tom mics and vocals.
If a band throws me some tip money prior to their set, I’ll record their set and just send them the raws as a thanks.
By default I don’t record unless I’m asked. I offer to record but most of the time the bands say no.
That's a surprisingly well outfitted venue for a roadhouse. Very impressive. Question: in larger venues soundchecking vox first makes a lot of sense, but in a venue the size of Dingbatz the drums are going to be the one thing you can't really control the base volume of. Do you have ot re-jigger everything if it turns out the drummer is packing a loud kit and hits hard?
I always do vocals first because it opens a line of communication to the stage. If anyone needs adjusting I can leave their mics hot and figure out any feedback issues with any added elements.
Also, I know how loud drums are in here. I get my vocals sitting right with anticipation of how loud the drums are.
@@chrishammillaudio Gotcha. This method of soundchecking vox first is something I've only heard of in the last 10 years or so. I like it for all the reasons you describe and more, but traditionally drums are done first because it's the loudest acoustic instrument. So the idea is that's your cornerstone volumetrically. In smaller venues I've alway been curious how folks deal with that when checking vox first.
What is the tech list in that place . Mains ,Amps and monitors and etc!
Will answer all of those questions in a future video.
Awesome stuff as always man! At least you should have a steady supply of content haha! Quick question out of curiosity: Do you clear it with the bands that you're recording their soundchecks/shows? Obviously not trying to be a narc and I'm sure you don't deal with huge huge bands that would object, but I helped produce a large country music show that was headlined by Miranda Lambert and was told we'd be nothing short of cruicifed if we recorded soundcheck... The joke was on them though, I may or may not had already recorded something 😂😂
I don’t go out of my way to ask, but if they see the camera and they ask me not to, I turn it off. I give every band that performs and in the videos plugs to their pages in the description.
For big touring acts I will always ask beforehand.
Are you noticing more bands/musicians going digital effect/ amp profilers going direct?
Thanks
More than I used to, but a lot of bands still use their tube amps to connect to my house cab. I will always appreciate the live sound of a tube amp, but good quality amp sims and cab impulses are so good these days that it’s hard to argue the benefits of not using them. I have so much more control over volume and the mix.
@@chrishammillaudio Just mixed a show where everything including V Drums was all DI. To quote you "So much more control..." No cymbal bleed bonus. Nice job on the vids.
Do you ever work with an analog mixer? If someone wanted help with their analog Mackie (as an example), would you take the job?
* I am asking just to gauge where we are in the history of pro audio.
I learned how to mix on analog.
12:03 hurts my soul seeing a cable being wrapped like this. Anyways, great job on this. I did a solid 10 years doing bar/clubs like this. I'm glad I'm out!
It’s painful for sure.
when a bass player has only his bass...do you tend to put a DI box in between or just go straight into the preamp as it appears you did...would that make a difference? I guess only if it has a pad?
His bass went to a DI box which went into my stage box.
@@chrishammillaudio do u remember which box and do u have a favorite DI box?
Anything from Radial or Live Wire works just fine for bass DI both from the instrument and amp.
Chris , what is the app you used to measure the dancefloor ? That was fuckin cool LOL
If you have an iPhone, it comes stock with a measuring app.
Also had no idea you could do this with a smartphone...
Gonna give it a try with my Android phone.
hi, friend. Could you tell me the exact name of the application that is seen on your phone (decibel meter) at the minute 16:26?
thanks and greetings from spain
"Decibel Meter Sound Detector" by dev Ashraf Thoppukadavil in the Apple app store.
thanks..😉
Your Master Bus is clipping, why not turn the amp's gain up so your desk isn't clipping?
Awesome video nonetheless, this is the kind of content I've been looking for
It’s in the yellow. It’s not clipping. If I go above my target of -10 to -6 it’s usually due to the transients from drum hits.
@@chrishammillaudio Ahh, fair enough.
One more question, have you got any subs in the room? Or is it just those two speakers up top.
Subs are below the stage.
@@chrishammillaudio Thanks
Solid video. I like watching other engineers mix. I just feel bad for that PA....there's no way you're not clipping amplifiers. That's gonna come around to bite you dude...
I’m not clipping the amp. Master output is hovering between -10 and -6
@@chrishammillaudio Are you talking about your Master bus outputs, or actual amplifier channels? Because you clipped the Master bus outputs a couple of times in this video.
I see that your venue has Crown K2 amplifiers listed. Solid amps. I'm just curious as to how you're able to peg your console like that and get away with it. How are you feeding the PA? Directly off the LR, or do you matrix your mix out?
It's obvious that you are a talented engineer. Keep up the good work, and don't hit red! :) Especially on an X32. A mighty fine workhorse, but the converters in that desk sound like shit.
I get damn close to clipping, but I (almost) never clip. If I ever do clip or get very close to clipping, I immediately correct it. It takes about a song, maybe two, for me to get a solid mix, where my master output is hovering at -10 to -6 with drum transients.
Individual channels I get from -18 to -10, drums and vocals peak at -6. What you see on the console channels are the compressor lights not clipping lights.
@@chrishammillaudio Ok, that's all fine. What I'm talking about is actual system clipping. Amplifiers in a rack feeding the PA. Are you clipping those? Or, is there processing in place so that you CAN'T clip those? I would love to see a video on that.
Yes, I see the comp lights. I understand that you may not be clipping your channels. But even if you did, that's not necessarily the worst thing in the world. A clipped snare drum can sound cool. But it's the OUTPUT stage that shreds PA's.
Just be careful dude...
Not clipping the amps that feed the PA. I have a limiter on the master bus on the console that prevents the bus from clipping.
When you say an instrument going direct? What's that mean?
No amp. Going direct from the source to my console.
TFX122 Monitor vs the EV PXM-12PM(?)
Which do you prefer?
I'm monitor shopping for my mobile sound gig.
TFX for sure. You can get low end in those!
@@chrishammillaudio I see them both in the video.
I just need to find them in stock somewhere...and buy a few extra because Music Tribe customer support has a less than stellar reputation nowadays.
wow, i never have help to EQ my amp on soundcheck like that.
Sound guys should advise you on where to have your EQ.
Why do you run the gain so hot on everything? Just curious, I love the videos btw
The gains not hot. I run everything between -12 and -6.
@@chrishammillaudio yea but the x32 your supposed to set your gains at -18db
That’s a myth. I’ve seen people set their gain between -12 and -6 with zero complications or clipping. I’ve tested this board to be able to handle signals as loud as -3 before I start to notice anything that even remotely resembles clipping.
The whole “-18” rule is for ideal headroom. If you set the rain to -12 to -6 max and have compressors on the signal to tame transients it doesn’t clip or over modulate the PA.
Second, I need a lot of volume output to be able to hear anything in this club. If I set everything to -18 I will need to push the makeup gain in the dynamics setting to +10 to even +13 to be able to hear the signal.
@@chrishammillaudio I’ve always set mine at -18 and never had a problem but if it works for you go for it
Do you have to push a lot of make up gain in the dynamics effect? If I set mine strictly to -18 I won’t be able to hear anything over the drums (even if I don’t put them through the PA) without having to crank post gain in the dynamics effect.
Our PA, power amps and speakers are also old and in need of replacement, so I’m keeping my fingers crossed it happens soon.
How many nights a week do you usually mix as foh?
Depends on the season. In the summer I am there about 6 to 8 times a month. In winter I’m lucky to do maybe three or four shows. Now in spring. I’m there about five times a month.
What is the specific of your model of you Mixer Sir?
Behringer X32
Thanks Sir, Watching here from Philippines 👌
Hope you’re wearing ear protection; and not those cheep foam ones.
Of course.
I lived in utah for a while, some of the worst sounding venues ive ever heard unfortunatly. Do you think the modern hanging pas sound better than just stacking pa speakers on stage? I always feel like the shows i went to just sounded way too loud for the room or way too much treble. Maybe its just the venues. When you said boots your low end on the guitar players check i was just like oh thank god haha. Playing shoes was no better most of the time. Many of the venues used little 12 inch monitors for house sound. Or like at metro music hall, the jbl line array just blew your fucking ears off. About the same sixe venue as yours. Idk it was annoying as fuck
Room acoustics matter far more than anything. This venues only acoustic treatment is the thick curtain on the stage. I’m about to hang some panels around the room to improve the reflections on the walls.
The subs rest on the floor so there is some low end rumble there.
I could see that. The complex in salt lake is a massive warehouse and the literally have the smallest curtain around the perimeter of the floor... concrete floor. Just sounds horrible. If the just did some housekeeping I'm sure it would be awesome. Same at your venue
Looks like a clean and well kept version of The Blind Pig in Ann Arbor.
Never been there.
I’m literally the last club sound guy to get rid of his analog board for the x32c. I’m old. I’m catching on.
Curious what verbs and delays you use? On board or…?
Thanks dude!!
Everything is on board. The stereo delay is excellent and makes it convenient. Check out my other videos. I started recording board audio and you can hear the difference.
Hello, greetings and congratulations from Italy. I too do your job and I see that the dynamics are the same. May I ask how much a band is paid and how much a sound engineer is paid for a show in a club like this? I ask you to make a comparison with Italy. Thank you.
I don’t know how much a band is paid because I’m not the booking agent. I get paid in the hundreds per show.
@@chrishammillaudio Your professionalism can be seen, a hug, colleague.
Please...mixingkid...don't be so demanding. Not all bands are perfect
Huh?