THE 100 SERIES FERGUSON COMPLETE HISTORY AND GUIDE.
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- Опубліковано 10 лют 2024
- This special video details the complete Ferguson 100 series tractors from 1964 to 1979. All models, specs, and farmer interviews.
Massey Ferguson 100 series in detail by Michael Thorne.
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Harry Ferguson
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43 mins long, I could have listened to another 43 mins martin, very informative and well explained, I remember the year of "The red giants" and it wasn't long till a neighbour of ours got a new 135 and I got a run on it, I thought I was in heaven, they were luxury in those days, nice memories, 👍
Thanks for watching James, I'm happy you enjoyed it. Martin was one of the Farmers featured in the video, I'm Alan 😁👍
Between the years 1971 and 1979, 11,173 Massey Ferguson 168 Tractors were produced at the Banner Lane Plant in Coventry. Such a lovely video and thanks for uploading it.
Thanks John. Glad you enjoyed it 👍
I knew a tillage farmer that grew grain near Bective county Meath back in 1971 that hauled six tons of grain to Drogheda with a Massey 135.
The front was weighted down with four half hundred weights
hanging of the front axle. The trailer was a McGee six tonner.
Can you imagine what it was like driving down the hill in Navan across the Boyne, and up by the round o pub, Navan wasn't bypassed 53 years ago, they were different times. The same fella hauled 13 tons of grain behind Ford five thousands on the same trip.
A lot of people got killed in tractor accidents back in those days. Still a few of us survived to be old and grey like myself, 😂
That would have been a perilous journey 😁 I'm a Navan man myself, so I've driven those roads a lot
Great video, I remember our 185’ s bought new in early 70’s they replaced 990’s . I was child but remember ours 18.5 tyres with heavy weight 30 inch rims on the back, one was multipower and one had standard transmission. Spreading slurry, cutting silage with 56inch jf harvester. They were replaced in early 80’s with fiat 880 and 980.
Thanks James. No shortage of traction with 18.5 😄
@@AgrimotiveFarmMachinery Needed all the traction on steep wet Fermanagh hills.
@@jameswilson9142 I can imagine 🤪
Great video on the MF 100 series, got me reminiscing over my fathers 135 and 165, examples of good quality engineering and as you demonstrated still good to go today
Thanks. Yes, they were engineered to last back then 👍
There were a couple of 133s bought new by our neighbours in the early 70s. Built in France I think, they had a Perkins AD3.144 engine rated at 37.5 HP (same stroke but smaller bore than in the 135), a Lambourn canvas cab and a single plate clutch only. Stockman tractor of their day.
Lovely little tractors. They are few and far between. Thanks 👍
My neighbour has a 133 too couldn't remember if it was 130 or 133 but I do remember him tell me everything stop when you press the clutch, pto hydraulic and the gear box
@kevinsheehan4565 The 130 was built in France and had a 4 cylinder Perkins A4.107 engine rated at 30 HP. There was an Economy version of it that had a single plate clutch and the headlights mounted on the side, and a De Luxe version that had a dual clutch and the headlights integrated in the front grill like the other models.
I have to call to the cousins ,and ask if they yard scraper tractor is 130 or 133 ,I may be back to you in a week
We have a MF 133 at home with the lambourn cab, great little tractor in her day probably did things it should never had been asked to do but did it, 37hp single clutch, hoping to do her up in the next few years
Good to see you Martin, watching from the US. Don't ever let that tractor go.
Thanks for watching. Do you know Martin?
I have a 135 ! But here in France, the 135 had an A3-144 engine. Hard start with the indirect injection, but a really good tractor and very little fuel consumption. Used mostly to cut grass with the integrated reciprocating mower !
Great video !! The answer is 11.173 . I'm learning more & more about the MF 100 serie. I was raised with a 35X (1963) from my granddad. In 1984 my dad bought a 185 (model 1974 with a little bit of experience), and in 1990 i bought a 175 (built in 1965) for the farm (dad and me). In 2001 we changed 185 to 390 (1994 4WD 12/12). In 2020 the 390 was changed to 6455 (from2008). So now the farm is still running with the 175 & 6455, and these tractors will problably stay until I stop. The 175 is equipped with a lot of luxury like MP, PAVT, hydr steering, dual clutch, live PTO and we built a external hydr pump with extra oil on the engine for ext hydr, so the MP oil keeps much cleaner in gearbox. But I'm really interested in the book. Thanks in advance (Sorry for my englisch, i'm not used to speak and write it)
Great information there. Thanks for that. You have great history with MF. Thanks for watching 👍
@@AgrimotiveFarmMachinery In 1991 we also bought a combine MF625 and it stayed until 2001 on the farm. Other MF machinery where a mf 20 and later a 124 straw(hay) press. This is in Belgium.
Super video Alan, serious detail in that, well done.👍💪. I never thought about that cab issue with the super 8s.
Thanks Cathal.. Time to take a break from the MF's for a few weeks 😁
Don't make threats like that@@AgrimotiveFarmMachinery
@@78mikehayes 🤣 Not for too long
Great video! I've a 165 myself. There were 11'173 Massey Ferguson 168 models
Thanks for watching, and well done 👏 ✔️
Great information. 11,173 . MF 168s.
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Enjoy stories that went with tractor history, i believe i had driven nearly all models accept 178, all on livestock/dairies farms. MF 168 production at Coventry from 71 to 79 was 11,173 interesting you still see these tractors in use n availability of part are easy to come by.
Thanks.. yes great to see other of them still out working. 😃
Great video and greetings from Lincolnshire, there were 11'173 Massey Ferguson 168 models produced at Banner Lane 🙂
Thanks and well done 👏 ✔️
Nice video 👌
Thanks Ronald 👍
Great stuff. We have 178’s (2 of them) at home which will get tidied up at some stage which will be good company for my 1200 when it gets home from Dave Chamberlain
That's a lovely collection you have. Dave is doing great work 😃
Great video 100s are irreplaceable
Thanks Eamon. Yes they are hard beat 😉
Another great video ,11173 168's were built at banner lane
Thanks Pierce. Well done 👏 ✔️
Great video and very interesting 👍 keep up the good work.... and see if you can get a different mic for outside work lol 😆
Thanks Patrick. Yes I have new mics got. Those videos were shot a few weeks back, it was only after that i realised I need to up my game 😆
In the same boat as you with my 35 as well, waiting for the first break in the weather. 😂
Just need to have some patience 😁😁
We saw plenty of 100s in Australia, but they were not generally a farming tractor although I have driven a 165 on farming duties long ago. It didn’t have the grunt of a Chamberlain 9G but it was trying to do the same job. The 165 had 18.4 x28 rear tyres and 7.50 x 16 fronts on cast centres front and rear. All the bigger ones would have been set up like that and the later ones probably got 30” rears. Virtually none would have got a cab here. They were a good machine but a lot of owners tried to do too much with them. The 188 definitely came here too. Jeff
Thanks Jeff 👍
Indeed, at least here in Western Australia there's plenty still working on smaller properties. Mostly 165/175/178s. Our 165s generally had cast wheels f+r and 18.4x30s though you do see the odd one on pressed skinny wheels. Most surviving have loaders, I've never seen one with a cab though I have seen photos of some with farmer made/adapted cabs. It's rare to see a restored one here, they're still out working. I have a 178mp.
First guest, Duncan Cab, Flexi cab was much better, Quieter, did i say quieter, Oh I did. All parts are available for flexi cab. MF 100 series were great, some problems with steering wear but otherwise perfect.
They sure are, I have a new flexi cab kit ready to go onto my 165 when I get the cab frame sprayed. Great to be able to start into a restoration knowing parts are easy got 👍
Thanks for this video. I found it very informative as I am looking to add an MF 100 series to my collection of old iron that I use around my small block,
The internet seems to suggest that 11,173 165 model were produced (and hopefully I will own one soon, but might have to sell something to get that past the wife)
Thanks for watching. Glad you enjoyed it. And good look looking for a 100 series 👍
@@AgrimotiveFarmMachinery Thank you fella. Hard to not hear you without reminiscing about my days in Ireland back in the day. Sláinte.
The early 100s had red wheel centres, later only the cast PAVT ( an Allis-Chalmers invention ) were red. I have a Mk2 165 which came to me partially restored without a cab, I have now fully restored it and left it without the cab as I believe it would have arrived in Ireland cabless from tha factory for the dealer ( in Donegal ) to fit a safety cab before delivery, I know that during it's working life it was fitted with a Secura cab.
Yes, for the first year, the centres were red.. From 1965 onwards they were all silver bar the PAVT as you said. Thanks for your comment, Martin 👍
Great video summarizing the 100 series MF’s.
Any chance of you doing a video on the MF 270 Diesel. I have one here in Ontario, Canada 🇨🇦 that came equipped with cast centre 16.4 - 28 power adjust rear wheels (filled with calcium) and the MF 236 Front End Loader. My 270 came with the A4 - 239 Perkins engine and hydraulic brakes with a parking brake and differential lock.
I’m not sure where else the 270 was sold, but it appears to be a far less common 200 series tractor here in Ontario 🇨🇦 as compared with the MF 265 which are widely available here.
Hi Peter. Greetings from Ireland. Yes I plan on doing a video on the 200 series, I'll make sure to research the 270. Thanks for watching 👍
very interesting video any videos on the 500 and 600 series my too favourite model ranges
Thanks. Yes, they are in the pipeline 👌
Enjoyed your video on the 100 series, grew up with them, I live in the states now, the MF 180 was based on the 175/168 not sure about the spacer, though more like a 1080 with flat platform and side controls, gas models were more popular diesel were 4-236 engines, there are older 65 types that are very interesting, anyway enjoyed your content thank you.
Yes, visually, it was very like the 1080 but very much based on the 175. Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching 👍
Great Video but unsure what went wrong with the Audio. Thanks for the Video
Thanks. Terrible weather conditions and not the correct microphone, rookie errors bit I've new ones bought 😃
Very informative, great work, thanks. On another note, l was looking at the different canvas cabs on the 135s. I noticed that aside from the traditional red and white canvas, there's also a version which has green canvas. Anyone have any info on the origins of that?
Thanks for watching.. Yes, the green was the Lambourne cab I believe..
We have a 35x and a 188 used to have a 185 also
Nice collection. You have both ends of the scale. Thanks for watching 👍
The MF194 had nothing to do with the 100 Series. This was one of the red Landini's which MF as owner brought into the product offering. There was a complete range of Red Landini tractors.
Yes, Graham, it was part of the 104 series built by Landini and obvious to look at it, not part of the red giants line up. In hindsight, I probably shouldn't have mentioned it. Thanks for watching 👍
@AgrimotiveFarmMachinery please Mike sent you the details on the S and 177. It is important that things are as accurate as possible. Sad but so many who have no inside knowledge spread falsehoods. 104 Series went to the 1104 initially and as time moved on the 1114 and 1134 joined the red landini stable.
Any information on the MF training school in Powerscourt estate during the 1970’s? Plenty of 100 series along with a 1080 and a 1135 at different stages.
No, I don't, I have heard about it. I'll be doing a video with a MF mechanic that has 50 years experience the brand, I'll be sure to chat to him about it. Thanks for that
Massey ferguson 140 1966 very good tractor
Yes, very good, like all the 100 series 💪
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11,173 168 were built at coventry, i think the 35x was indirect injection not direct like the 135
Yes, 100% correct. The 35x had the A3-152 indirect engine, while the 135 had the AD3-152.. Thanks 👍
Good video Alan was it 11,173 168 models built
Thanks Gearoid 👍
11,763 Massey Ferguson 168 were produced at Banner lane in Coventry
Thanks for watching 👍
11,173 168s 👍👍
Well done 👏👏
Spent many hours on a 185 brilliant Tractor.
They sure are.. Thanks for watching 👍
How much could you tell me about the 152? Have one over here in the US. Want to restore it someday
A 152 is a vineyard version of the 135 as far as I'm aware. The would share a lot of parts with the 135 and 148. Obviously, axles and rear trumpets etc would be different. It's not a model that was popular in Ireland.
@@AgrimotiveFarmMachineryNot much info available on them from what I can find. Thank you
@InterestingEndeavors I'll send you on anything I can get. I suggest asking the Massey Ferguson worldwide group on Facebook if you have access to it. 👍
I appreciate it. I forget which site it was but I posted pictures on one of them and that's how I figured out which model it was. I did find a service manual that I downloaded but it's in French. Haven't figured out a way to translate it yet.
Just wondering, how much is a good safe 185 worth,In perfect working order
In Ireland. 8-10k depending on condition
Regarding the 175 & 175-S
No, the original MF175 model as launched with the hundred series in 1964/5 (Red Giants) had the Perkins 236 engine rated at 66hp with cast 'spoked' front wheels (2wd) & standard cast PAVT rears, pressed steel rears factory option. The steering arm from the steering box was in the high position like that of the MF65 model to the tombstone power steering system in the front cowling. This tractor model could not be sold in Germany or Austria as 175 was Hitlers homosexuality law. It was marketed there as an MF177. With the introduction of the MF178 tractor in around 1967/8 fitted with the Perkins 248 engine at 72hp to replace the 175 model, the steering arm was changed to the lower position along the side of the engine to the front steering pedestal. This was because in the upper position the cast centre front wheels caused wheel wobble at road speeds. Because N Europe in particular did not want to go through additional homologation costs, it was decided to introduce the MF175S model, thus taking the steering changes, on pressed steel rears but retaining the 236 engine - change the engine incurs new homologation. So, you can add an alpha letter to a model number without major changes to spec & avoid new homologation time & costs. Hence Beauvais having plenty of models with an 'S' in the model number after Coventry established the precedence.
Thanks for that great information 👍
11,173 168's produced at Coventry
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11,173 168 were built in banner lane
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11’173 massey 168s
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11763 168's were made in Coventry
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11,173 mf168 were produced
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11173 Mf 168 were built. And I think the 35x was indirect injection unlike the 135
11,173 mf 168s produced in coventry
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11173 ,168 off the line in banner lane
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What about the 130s
Hard to cover them all. The 130 was built in France and was a specialist vineyard, high clearance tractor. I just covered the Coventry built, standard models.. Thanks for watching 👍
Good informative video thanks, one point would be that in 1964 when the 165 was launched with the 135, the 148 didn’t arrive until the ‘70’s
@@AgrimotiveFarmMachinery thanks it's just I seen one last year, on a farm while doing some building work for them. The owner said an airport bought a few of them to mow grass before he owned it. It appeared to be like a 135 but slightly smaller. Thanks for replying.
Oh I have a 133 myself, bought it off a couple who inherited it from their uncle who used it as a car to go to and from the bog, shop with a transport bix. The owner before that did the same thing. I don't have a farm either just use it the odd time to go for firewood and turf.
@faFsman Thanks, yes, the 148 didn't appear until 1972 👍
@davidh266 Thanks David. Glad you enjoyed the video 👍
11173 168s
New tractors rev to hard and waste fuel ! Our little 3cyl 35hp goes and goes and goes and our new tractors use fuel like going out of fashion! I would replace all our new machinery with old machinery when it's available!🦘🍻