Pulsar Massive - new KING? (UAD dethroned?)
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- Опубліковано 1 сер 2024
- Hey, guys! Massive Passive by UAD and Manley is one of my all time fav EQs, so when Pulsar Massive was out, I knew I'll make a battle between them :) Do we have a new king? Or still UAD is unbeatable?
See and listen to it yourself. Make your own judgement and let me know in the comments. Enjoy!
0:00 Intro
2:09 Pulsar Audio plugins
3:22 Session overview
4:16 EQ-ing with Pulsar Massive
6:47 Matching Pulsar and UAD in Plugin Doc
8:39 Pulsar vs UAD - Battle 1
9:45 Wait!
10:40 Pulsar features and advantages
11:36 More EQ-ing
12:32 Pulsar vs UAD - Battle 1
13:42 Summing the thingz up!
Okie dokie, people! Let me know what you thing about Pulsar and my review in the comments! Is UAD still king? Is Pulsar a new one?
Thank you for your review, also letting the cat out the bag (a little) so to speak 😏
Liked the way you quick slipped that "one" in, that one thing that all other plugins fail compered to UAD 😉 yes, that OPENNESS 😁✌🏾
Fabfilter Volcano 3.
@@saricubra2867 , ok, but Volcano is not an analog emulated EQ at all...
@@FoliaSound It can be, choose your own filters, how they are connected and the nonlinearities...
Pulsar's 1178 is also a great plugin and I bet it would give the UAD plugins a run for their money as well.
I just discovered your channel! Amazing! Waiting for more.
Thanks, man, get back for more soon!
Great video. I just subbed. Nice comparison, really nice that you look into the frequencies and compare them in the playing fields. :)
Thanks, man, good to have you on board!
The second of your videos... you got me! And yes, Pulsars Massive also got me, it was really obvious, the bottom end has a bit more soft, round depth, the whole mix sounds kind of relieved. Keep up with that kind of comparisons!
Thanks!
what a great video friend! congrags!
I love UAD, but I’ll whole heartedly admit I enjoyed the pulsar’s sound a spec more ! 👀 imma need to pick this up! Thanks for the great video!
Yep, I believe this is their best plugin that elevates this company to a whole new level...
@@FoliaSound Will you ever compare the uad to the native instruement one.
Great video! Thanks a ton 🙌😊 Subscribed!!
Thanks, man!
The first song the eq’s matched up perfectly. The second song I felt a tight more focused low end on the UAD.
Excellent comparison!!
Thanks, man!
Thanks for this.. a breath of fresh air
Thanks!
I have their 1178 and it's amazing. Pulsar Audio is doing great things!
Yes, truly they are. Can't wait what's next!
I have UAD, it’s my go to. But this is nice because it sounds good native and you can use your UAD resources for something else whatever that might be.
Excellent presentation.
Thanks!
Everything sounds great on the Pulsar. And the EQ graphics are much better than no graphics.
Massive Passive user here… both are really good, but I prefer the Pulsar. The fact you can switch out the transformers and run it “unbalanced” + have the option of a simple GUI, is just great.
Super Review👍👍👍
Thanks, man!
Amazing comparison. Definitely something to take in mind now that you recommend it. Any chance you can make a comparison of Fairchild 670 plugins ? Wondering how would compare my beloved Overloud Comp 670 to the mythical UAD version, the MJUC also has a version of it, T-racks has a good one, Pulsar has another that I’ve never heard… even they guys of variety of sound has one. Anyway. Thank you for this video 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
Hey, you've got some cool ideas, I'll materialize some of them one day in the future! Thanks for a positive feedback on what I did!
I love the fact the Pulsar Massive isn't tied to UAD hardware. You save a few dollars and can work with any interface you like. Clear winner to me is the Pulsar.
Pulsar Audio putted the algo plugins really next level!
I always found the high end on the UAD massive passive to be harsh. With the latest plugin alliance EQs I never reach for the UAD massive passive anymore. Also gullfoss takes care of most mastering EQ needs pretty damn well. Along with Soothe 2. Still SUPER impressive that it could match it so well. I couldn’t tell any major differences.
Love the gui and all features but UAD sounded better to me in both your examples
Great. Why not check them for harmonics and cramping?
Pulsar Audio is one of the best plugin companies. They are magicians.
Great video! Wondering if you’ve ever tried the Native Instruments “Passive EQ” plugin? It’s definitely a bit different from the UAD, but seeing some comparisons online, some people who’ve used a real Massive Passive have felt the NI was a bit more accurate. Curious if I could get your thoughts on that one as well!
I have, but I felt it's too characterful and it works in somehow exaggerated way.
How does Plugin Alliance's older Passeq or Better Maker EQ stack against the new ones like what you're demostrating here. Would be Interesting to see. As a;ways, your videos are both entertaining and helpful as the same time. Looking forward to the next one. Cheers!
Cool idea, thanks!
Did you use any of the oversampling features of the Pulsar Massive? Both the 2x and 4x oversampling affect the sound positively, but also are considerably more CPU demanding.
Nope, but I surely will! I wanted to keep my vid short :)
@@FoliaSound would make it a fairer test as all UAD plug ins use oversampling behind the scenes. They are very careful not to advertise this too much haha, its why their plug ins sounded so much better for so long
I've got this plugin the day it was released, pulsar stuff is no brainer for me and im 100% satisfied
Agreed!
Yeah...The Pulsar has a great GUI and it's more appealing imo...definitely worth every penny...cheers
Yep, this is a new bestseller, this is for sure!
Love the Rock it track. Is it released anywhere?
It's not mine this time :) It's an Artlist track!
Love the video, also what’s the song used in the video intro?
It's called "Foyer" and you'll find it on Artlist!
@@FoliaSound thank you, what about the one at the end of the intro?
Did you have the Pulsar oversampling on ? wonder if it would make a difference
I believe I turned the oversampling on, I don't really remember it now :)
Thanks for sharing this :-).
Have you ever tested AnalogQ from Schaack Audio?
I'd like to hear from a well trained Massive ear :-), what do you think about this Plugin. I'm can't decided if I should by the Pulsar Massive or the AnalogQ from Schaack audio which sounds also nice from my point of view and which is more versatile because of the 9 bands.
Thanks a lot!
Haven't tried it yet, but I might be back to this very topic one day. Thanks!
@@FoliaSound that would be great if you can give it a try to know what your personal opinion is about. Thanks a lot!
Love the new Pulsar Massive a lot!!!
Same here :)
UAD makes the sound softer, which i prefer, of course this is subjective, not better not worse, just different, equally good. Nonetheless Pulsar did amazingly good job there, and the GUI is just icing on the cake. Dziękuję za porównanie i pozdrawiam :)
Dzięki, pozdrowienia!
This stuff is so subjective: the UAD sounded harder to me! I think it’s fascinating how we all interpret audio differently. The UAD does have a more solid low end IMO. I like it better on bass moves but liked the Pulsar better in the mids and highs. Bottom line, they both sound great with different flavors. We live in great times for audio work :)
If you have other Pulsar Plugins (which i can highly recommend 🙂) the Intro price is 59€. This is really an outstanding Plugin-Company. Love their products
I accidentally deleted the email they sent me for the coupon. Is there any other way to get that coupon code.
It's probably better than the UAD. More Oversampling available to really use that drive knob. UAD can't really be driven like that anyway. A step up.
pulsar mu is a really good vst on the master stage.
Would love to give this a chance, but all pulsar plugins are totally broken on my PC. The GUI is all messed up and I can't see anything. Have contacted support a few different times, and they said they couldn't help me. I was pretty shocked to hear this, because they didn't even do anything to try to help me. Not sure if other companies offer such poor support because I have never experienced issues with any other plugins before.
Sorry to hear that, man...
Any comparisons to Acustica Magenta?
Magenta beats them both. It plays in a different league. It's my absolute go to both for EQ and compression in many cases!
@@FoliaSound amazing to hear, I've managed to link ReaEq parameters to Magenta to get the same ability to control 3 controls with one :-)
UAD have more deepness, It sounds more real and alive. Pulsar sounds really nice, it is a good alternative but for me is not the best
Sure thing. Agreed!
Who is Pulsar Audio? Are they related to the old Creamware?
Creamware and their Pulsar synth were German. Pulsar Audio is French and I think they're not connected with old Creamware.
On this first source, I liked the low end on the UAD better, BUT I very much preferred the midrange and high end on the Pulsar. UAD sounded hard and cold there in comparison, Pulsar sounded smoother and more “analog”. So Pulsar’s got 2 out of 3 sonically and a better interface. This is a sure purchase for me :)
I'm seriously thinking about acquiring it, too. It's a really great tool.
the uad version has more lively mid pressence to me.
very close
Uad everybody
1. KURCHOFF
2. WAVES F6
3. FAB FILTER PRO Q3
4. SURFER EQ
5. ACUSTICA AUDIO
WHITE 3
6. PLUGIN ALLIANCE
250 EQ
The best EQs
F6 whats so special about it?
UAD sounds better, more transient information retained with a great 3D image and depth. The bass is more defined and the highs have more punch and clarity.
Magenta5 of AcusticaAudio, for me sound better than this 2
True :)
Personally, I hear Pulsar Massive & UAD Massive Passive differ a lot in terms of sound stage.
- Pulsar Massive: deeper sound stage, feels more dynamic.
- UAD Massive Passive: The sound stage is flatter, creating a wider feel.
Cześć Paul. Czy Ty jesteś Polakiem ?. Jeżeli tak, to zrób jakiś odcinek po polsku. Pozdrawiam.
Cześć, Andrzej! Po polsku można by zrobić całą serię filmów, ale mam dla Ciebie coś lepszego: znajdź na Facebooku grupę "Pluginy, DAW-y, takie tam sprawy". Jestem jej założycielem, grupa jest polska :)
but processor dont like it so much
Depends on your CPU. My Ryzen 5900X handles just anything :)
@@FoliaSound i have the i9 12900K it takes me 1% of cpu in fl when i use it , if you use 5 , or 6 of this , you will be fastest cracking ( with fl studio in windows version)
Kurchoff EQ and Waves F6....will destroy them both
Pulsar has expansive low end
Let's be real here, AUD Manley EQ always sucked, most options are better than it. It was a bad purchase for sure haha
UAD Manley sucked?! I must totally, totally disagree with that :) Many HW users say it's hardly any different from the original!
@@FoliaSound guess they didn't compare properly. I like uad but, this is their weakness emulation.
@@FoliaSound uad massive passive sucks very big time. Doesn't compare to the hardware at all.
Pulsar massive sounds more 3D and better compare to UAD and I am shocked
pulsar sounds like dull . If you've ever used hardware you'll get your hands on uad. great emulation
It's got a bit different character, true. But still I believe both sound very good. Cheers!
funny a guy just above said the opposite. I always enjoy see people argue with audio on youtube.
I never try to compare with anything. Does it match UAD. Don't care. Does it match a 6.400 euro hardware. Don't care.
But I do care, if it's sound good. Good news. It's the case of the Pulsar Massive and MU.
If you still want to compare
The for Pulsar bundle at 162€ instead of 686€ UAD. Is it realy worth ?
thought some time about whether to write or not but then I don´t want to hold back as I witness how you are misleading people here.
Folia, how can you get in such a raving state about the Pulsar Massive, when it´s obvious, that it is a mediocre plugin? The walking around in your studio, raising hands over head, is that an expression of being lost in the mist?
Anyways. When you switch to Pulsar, the stereo fiel gets narrower, the livelyness isn´t as good and especially the nice low frequencies of the UAD is gone. In comparison the Pulsar has no beef to it, make material more flat.
Now some might have the impression Pulsar is better, when they listen for the Hi-Hat. Massive makes it sit de-tached up upon the whole sound and it appears louder. But a closer listen reveals the obvious. Although it seem louder, it has far less transient and it doesn´t glue with the rest any more. So it´s damaging the signal.
This is true for all scenarios with Massive as it reduces transients in all examples. It´s obvious in this plugin vs plugin example already.
No go get a listen on the Pulsar homepage. They have hardware vs plugin examples there. Boy, worlds apart and the incapabilty of proper transient handling is even more evident there.
Please stop misleading people.
(listened in well treated studio on Dymaudio LYD 48 - just to varify what I already heared yesterday on cheap headphones)
This is always some pervert kind of fun to see somebody rant again. The way you expressed your disagreement closes any discussion before it even started, so my only answer could be: hope tomorrow you rant somewhere else!
Ah, KSD C88 here!
@@FoliaSound we can openly talk about everything.
But we won't be able to change obvious audible facts. Trying this would equal beating waves into the ocean with a stick.