US Navy Cruisers vs Russia’s Navy Cruisers
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The Ticonderoga-class cruisers were originally planned as guided missile destroyers for the US Navy. These multi-role cruisers were primarily designed for the escort of carrier battle groups. Equipped with Aegis radar system, a single cruiser can defend an entire battle group. The US Navy currently operates 17 cruisers of this class. The overall length of the ship is 567ft, and the beam is around 55ft. The displacement of a fully loaded American cruiser is 9,800tons. Around 330 crew members are stationed on the warship. On the other hand, the Slava-class cruisers, were specifically designed to kill aircraft carriers and offset the strength of the US fleets. The less expensive Slava-class cruiser is a smaller alternative to the nuclear-powered Kirov-class battlecruisers. With the signature capability of anti-surface warfare, the ship served as flagships of various task forces. Originally 10 cruisers were planned, but only 3 were completed. As of today, the Russian Navy operates only 2 cruisers of this class. The Slava-class has an overall length of 612ft and a beam of 68ft. The displacement of the cruiser is 11,490 tons when fully loaded. The vessel can accommodate up to 529 crew members.The American cruiser is powered by 4 gas turbine engines generating 86,000hp. These massive engines can propel the ship to a maximum speed of 33knots. For rapid maneuvers and acceleration, the main engines are assisted by 2 additional controllable propellers. At a speed of 20 knots, the cruiser has a range of 6,000nmi. However, this range is limited to 3,300nmi at speed of 30 knots. Whereas the Slava-class is driven by 4 gas engines producing 120,000hp. At maximum RPM, the cruiser can gain a top speed of 32 knots. For acceleration, the warship is powered by boost gas turbines as well. The ship has an operational range of 6,500nmi at 18 knots and range of 2,500nm at 30 knots. American cruiser relies on the AN/SPY-1 phased array radar, which can track more than 800 targets withing 200nmi.On the other side, the Russian cruisers have MR-800 long range air search radar system, which is paired with MR-700 radar system. This radar suite is considered one of the most accurate systems as it can detect and track targets within 200nmi. The Ticonderoga is equipped with Aegis combat system, capable of defending the entire battle group. The heart of this system is its phased-array radar capable of detecting ballistic missiles. Whereas the Slava-class is equipped with naval version of S-300, which is armed with 64 long range surface-to-air missiles. The missiles can even destroy ballistic missiles within 49nmi radius. The warship is armed with 40 short range tactical surface-to-air missiles. In terms of firepower, the primary armament of American cruiser is vertical launching system installed below the deck. It has several cells which hold a variety of 122 missiles including long-range tomahawk cruise missiles. The latest variant of tomahawks can destroy both land and sea-based targets within 1,350nmi. On the contrary, the primary weapon of Slava-class is its 16 turbojet anti-ship missiles. These missiles are widely regarded as one of the most potent weapons against submarines and aircraft carriers. Watch the video for detailed conclusion
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Who’s here after Russia send ships to Cuba
Me
We forgot to compare their onboard fire suppression systems
I'd place my money on the world's top Navy and the second largest airfleet. The US wouldn't go 1v1 unless something went critically wrong. By the time missiles are firing jets would be in the air and subs would be hunting from the US battle groups. Russia on the other hand does not have a large base of operations, issues with corruption, ammo shortages, and various other issues that hamper the comparison.
DDG and CG definition is pretty skewed in modern time depending on each country Navy laws and time built. Ticonderoga-class have less displacement than both the Sejong the Great and Type-55, even though the two aftermention is DDG.
Aegis is an integrated rader, and battle management software suite. It cannot destroy satellites or anything else. It purpose is for detecting and tracking hostiles contacts, and assigning weapons solutions for destruction automatically.
It MK 48 torpedoes, ASROC missiles, SM-2, SM-6, SM-3 missles, plus harpoons anti-ship missiles and the two five inch guns, phalanx 20 mm CIWS, are its main weapons
This is the realisation that the Royal Navy reached in the 1970s. Unfortunately, old and outdated need to go, regardless of how impressive they are.
So your not gonna mention the Slava that sunk. Just because it has a system onboard does not mean that the crew can use it effectively.
You concern is 100 percent correct. However, asymmetrical warfare is out of scope of this comparison review.
I disagree. The fact that it couldn't handle the threats poised against it, shows how incomparable these two ships, are.
Or the system doesn't work properly.
@@Grid88 it was attacked by coastal defense AShMs, that's not asymmetrical. The USS Mason was attacked several times by such missiles which were suspected of being of Chinese origin. In the 3rd attack within a week, it had to fend off a salvo of 5 missiles.
@@apolloaero The Russians say that it wasn't attacked, but that the accident happened due to the crew's mistake... As much as you consider what the Ukrainians/NATO said to be true, what the Russians say can also be true! When the American ship was burning, we did not take the statement of the Russians as correct, but we took the statement of the owner of the ship, the Americans, as correct... well, then in this case too, I will take the statement of the owner of the ship, the Russians, as official and correct!
And if we are already mentioning the bad sides of those ships, not even the overweight Ticonderoga on the ancient Spruance hull is in any better position. Half of the fleet is anchored due to the appearance of structural cracks on the hull that make the ships unseaworthy, and all those ships are waiting to be cut up because the overhaul is not worth it...
Oh the Ticonderoga is better, the slava can't even defend itself when Ukraine sick one 😆
You keep playing and putting up other things that I haven't clicked on
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You aren't coming in here !!!!
LMBO
Show those papers of authenticity
LMBO
Served on this ship from 97 to 01. We were in Kuala Lumpur changing out a gas turbine generator in the bravo engine room after a fire. Got the call to GQ that next morning to get underway due to the Cole getting bombed in Yamen. Go Shiloh!!!!
It would never get a chance to fire on a aircraft carrier like that.
The SLAVA is better! Able to transform from surface Cruiser to Stealth Sub in presense of cruise missiles
NO slava is junk
Don't forget we never have fought on our soul since the civil?!?!?
Russian wins with their missiles
Lol, comments competing which one is worse, I'm sure if taliban ever get any boat, they would defeat both slava and thunderwhatever with ease xD
Both "superpowers" failed miserably against supposed goat fu.....
Not to mention USA against rice farmers xD
How many Ticonderogas have been sunk by a country with no navy?
America has a lot of wars to fight still so I can just say none. . . . yet.
Russia has only 3 cruisers, of which two are already going to metal scrap, because they cannot be repaired, after 25 years of repair, everything has already rusted, so it’s not appropriate to compare with the USA
Yeah, I'll put my money on the CG-47 any day of the week.
I have read that the Slava class have a feature that none warship in the fleet can do: become a submarine and reach deeps to the bottom of the seas
😂
😂 It's been on a secret undwerwater mission on the sea bed of the black sea for a year now.
It can, but only once.
yes we know your a 12 year old ukrainian fanboy
иак же как и комплекса пэтриот есть своя технология, которая своей тушкой сбивает ракеты
most russian crusiers are completly worn out. i read that on moskova at the time of its sinking that only one cwis worked out of six and only half of the rest of its weapons worked, the eletronics was just such in bad shape that it could not use its radar or fire any missiles it had while using communications. and out of all its different radar systems only one was left working.
A better analysis, would be a Ticonderoga v Type 055!
One is 40 years old and heading for retirement and the other is a new design. Somewhat skewed as well. Not sure what would happen in the next few years, would the US retire the CGs without a replacement?
QUESTION...@7:20, if I understand your statement correctly, the Ticonderoga class can defeat the entire arsenal of the Slava class using just 1/5 or 20% of its defensive armament?? 😳
They *are* armed to the teeth, cruisers like her carry 100+ missles but Fire/Loading-Procedure is another thing entirely.
I think he meant "On-Paper" OR, I'm just speaking out of my arse.
@@The1RedRooster ha, I got ya. That's what I thought. Thx for the reply. 😉✌️
@@dodoubleg2356 more than welcome :) I don't understand the 'got ya' part *but* you do you :)
I used to do R&D for the military. In easy to understand terms it was my job to understand the full capabilities of of our technology what it can and cannot do. The other big part of my job was to do the same with other nations. When looking at foreign nations likely to be direct adversaries I specialized in Russia, China and North Korea. The Ticonderoga class guided missile cruiser is insanely well armed with scarily capabilities when speaking about anti air defenses. While it is unlikely to take the same level of punishment that the Slava can the Slava would be highly unlikely even with multiple ships backing it up to take out even one Ticonderoga and in a 1v1 situation would stand as close to zero chance at even surviving in any sense of the word let alone winning the engagement as is possible for a military engagement. Keep in mind sometimes odd things happen in war. The side that shouldn't in any sense survive somehow survives or even wins. But in this case there is as close to a guarantee as possible that the Ticonderoga would win a conventional engagement.
The US practices with GQM-163 Coyote, compare that to P-700, P-800, P-1000, YJ-18, Brahmos or any other AShM you want. SM-2 and SM-6 shouldn't have too much trouble against these.
Hell, even the YJ-21, DF-21D and DF-26B are at risk during certain parts of their flight, midphase for example. Terminal engagement is where it gets complicated. SM-6 has ABM capabilities up to IRBMs in terminal phase, but after that there's no other defensive layer. A HGV is different from a ballistic missile, even one with a MaRV
Not Russian but Soviet. When all republics was involved in project. Moskva is now sunk down by just two missiles. So nothing to compare. One last Slava cruiser is piece of scrap…
I was in navy on uss vella gulf cg 72 ...that Slava doesn't have enough firepower or maneuverability! Cg was built to destroy multiple ships and aircraft at one time....and that's just 1 of 22 that doesn't even include ddgs !!! Yeah ...and uhh 1 of them got turned into a sea floor ornament !! Next !
Well the Slava cruiser Moskva couldn't defend itself very well. Maybe the guys at the controls had too much vodka in their systems to use that superior technology effectively.
Neither could the cole or the stark.
The USS Bonhomme Richard burned in shipyard for days because the crew had no courage, no honor, and no pride. To say it didn't sink like Moskva is just stupid cope.
You mean they say it didn't sink because it didn't actually sink. It caught fire in a Navy Shipyard in San Diego. Comparing that to getting sunk by cruise missile during a war is the actual cope @@craftpaint1644
@@craftpaint1644and yet when the moskva sank it was one third of Russia's cruisers. You're talking about an amphibious assault ship. Of which the u.s. has 30. Hardly a premier surface ship of the navy most unlike what the moskva and other slava class cruisers were supposed to be, nini versions of the Russian battlecruiser. Not a comparison at all buddy
Why are you so angry about this I mean from your comment. You feel so bitter. It's not anybody fault that the Slava cruiser maskva couldn't defend itself. Be happy my dear@@craftpaint1644
U.S focuses on quantity while Russia focuses on quality.
Hahaha. Just like the Moskova, where most the systems were switched off due to all the poor maintenance.
You're kidding right? Russia's one aircraft carrier has been docked for repairs for 4 years and keeps catching fire while docked. The Moskva couldn't defend itself against 2 Ukrainian neptune missiles.
I thought US Naval fleet upgraded its Offensive capabilities for the Ticon class?
Cant the naval s300 missiles be used for surface warfare too?
Yes but not accurate for surface to surface attacks
The Slava class does not haave better range. The Tico is 6000nmi at 20 knots while the Slava is 6500nmi at 18 knots. It has 3300nmi aat 30 knots while the Slava has only 2500nmi at 30. So the Tico has better range. And as we know the Russians Tico has a lot and I mean a lot better reliability than the Slava
Is US number 1?
GOD bless united states of america navy cruisers
Hooyah! Former CG-57 boatswains mate
Only a Russian would think that ship is better the Russian ship is a the Russian ship is a really good boat anchor proved that over there when fighting Ukraine
Quit playing that thing up that Russian ship is a piece of junk I mean there's something that the ukrainians did one of them was just a little remote control toy boat I don't think that Russian ship is all that damn great
Ha haha, seriously?? Russian ships virtually sink by themselves. But it is pretty cool how they can convert themselves to submarines in the Black Sea.
The Russian Cruisers a piece of junk ukrainians already sent one to the bottom that's why they only have two
It is the blood
The blood of Jacob
Or the blood of the Christ
But it is the blood
The olive 🫒
Or the wine 🍷🩸
In Ukraine Slava is running oo they don't want to fight so what makes it deadly.
Distance I’d have to say Ticonderoga. 😊
Seems that the Navy is trying to phase out the Ticonderoga class to replace with something newer according to the defense budget
Yeah the US Navy would probably switch towards Frigate/Destroyer type of Navy except the Frigates will be as big as destroyers of today and the DDG(X) will be even larger than a cruiser. Maybe closer to the Zumwalt but slightly smaller
You forgot to mention the price of these cruiser
lol slava class has one of the most accurate radar lol
Lol the seawaves fucked up the radar lol
I have the feeling we will find out soon :D
How n whatever , russian navy still the winner
Once again, quantity has a quality all it's own.
У Америки с понтом самое лучшее с понтом
Ahead is the one on the surface of the sea. 😉 🇺🇦
Realy, another Ukrainian troll?
@@Dan-zz8mz Don't worry - I'm lying and "Slava"/"Moskva" is still operational! 😁😁😁
@@afrobandera1221 who said that??
Yeah, no shit 🤪
Let's not forget about the USS Liberty now, though.
@@The1RedRooster What about it, Liberty didn’t have defenses, unlike the Moskva, well the Moskva supposedly had defenses but turned out the flagship of the Black Sea was barely functional.
The Russian Slavs is much better
Well this comes down to who can overwhelm the others defenses.
The Slava can fire 16 missiles which can be taken out with SM-2/SM-3. That takes care of all its long range weapons.
The Tico has 8 Harpoon missiles which can be taken out by S-300.
If the Tico was pre 1994 and the TASM was still available I would give it to the Tico, using 1/2 load of SM-2 (61) could quadruple tap any inbound anti ship missiles, and launch 61 TASM and 8 Harpoon. That would more than likely overload the Slava's air defense.
Modern day the Tico only has 8 Harpoons for anti ship which would probably not do the trick. They would eventually both have to come into gun range where the Slava has it.
Yes I know the Tico can fire SM-2 and SM-3 at surface targets, just not sure how effective they would be against something like a Slava class.
Pretty sure the Ticos can equip LRASMs in their VLS, which have much better range, targeting system, maneuverability and stealth features. And they should be able to carry the new SM-6 with vastly improved capabilities over the SM-2. I doubt the SM-3 would be used, its meant for interception of ballistic missiles in their exo atmospheric phase, not cruise missiles.
@@timothy740 when I was in LRASMs were not available in VLS, we had TLAM and SM-2.
@@bbaff8622 Wait you served for The USN?
@@ramirezyzz6748 Yes, was on a Tico for a few years.
@@bbaff8622 Wow
Nice vid bro. Tico would win this one.
Tico is highly cost. Slava class is constructed to destroy air carriers of USA.
It couldn't defend itself against 2 Ukrainian neptune missiles.
Atlant class cruisers have no prospects and will be in service for at most another decade until enough 22350 frigates enter service or until 22350m frigates start entering the fleet. Two cruisers of this class have been retrofitted, just enough to last another decade while the oldest cruiser of this class was scheduled to be scrapped this year, but a crew error that caused a fire sent that cruiser to the bottom of the sea. For the Russians, the loss of this cruiser is purely reputational, and it does not represent even the smallest military loss, because that ship was only a few months away from turning into a pile of scrap metal...
Let's face it... the Ticonderoga isn't any better either, an overweight ship on an ancient Spruance-class hull, where half of the ships in the fleet have developed structural cracks that undermine the seaworthyness of a ship!
Tico wins hands down
Russia's
Russian tech looks sudo 80's tells you where there their weapons were frozen.
At around 7:00 you stated the Slava class is “more resistant to enemy fire “. Hmmm 🤔 Really?
You forgot what you stated that the Ticonderoga class is also armed with offensive weapons - the Tomahawk, which has a greater range than the Russian missile, and the Harpoon anti ship missile. With the Aegis combat system, the Ticonderoga class is clearly the superior cruiser.
you dont understand that the tomahawks are extremely slow missiles hence easy to destroy?
harpoons range is so fucking low and speed is low as welll...
why do u think US navy made a ASUW dedicated missile (AGM-158C LRASM)
sandbox are clearly superior missiles, not against LRASM but for sure the harpoons and tomahawks.
I never, *ever* comment on these typ3s of Video *BUT* the Tico has the lead, by miles. Literally & figuratively, Data-Link with the Aegis & sheer volume of CIA satellites (if the dedicated few were taken out by S-500 first) counter balances the offensive capability or Slava.
Easy US victory, imho.
No doubt about that Ticonderoga has technological edge against slava.
Those Slava-Class Cruisers have very potent weapons....but if YOU shoot first...THEY die. I think of the sinking of the Moskva...not a ship-to-ship action but they couldn't even "protect" it in their own Home Waters. Yes, the Russian have some data link capabilities but nothing as integrated and well-tested by highly trained Crews as the Sensor and Data Link systems in use by the US Navy. Remember the US Navy deploys multiple Carrier Battle Groups simultaneously, globally... and has been doing it since the end of WWII. Real-time, detailed and accurate Intel linked with on-board Sensor Data is the reason the F-35 does not have to do MACH 2 to defeat the best (any) Russian and Chinese "stealth" fighters. The F-35 has the ability to remain unseen longer while seeing further + superior weapon systems range. Shoot first, WIN.
Russia op
Slava Russia!!!
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There are two types of ASW Attacks: Deliberate and Urgent. Deliberate means you’re using your long range ASROC or Helo to drop a torpedo at a considerable distance. Urgent means you’re using the MK-32 SVTT for a close range torpedo shot at a sub. If The sub is that close - it’s urgent!
The Slava couldn't defend itself so why comparing them with mighty Ticonderoga class.
Slova is better
Really. russian junk, against American perfection. You decide. 🤔
The Germans also allegedly had an advantage in technology), as did the French before that. It is clear who ALWAYS wins in the end) These are Russians.
@Ivan Houk well, I bet you a dollar who wins. And it's not going to be a russian.
@@erichyney6287 считай что ты его уже проиграл)
cope
this place is not meant for you kid go play fortnite instead