@@jamieharmer5654 Yeah, but we kinda had 80 consecutive years of peace after that. And now comes stupid russia and wants to war again in the 21st century. Russia hasn't karma/morale on its side. Like us then. Thatswhy i thought they learned something.
Glad to have the Germans on our side now, unlike in the last war. My grandparents had to live in very poor conditions here in Norway with ration cards and forced labor, but I forgive it, if this technology help keep safe my son from future wars.
Norwegian "forgot" they joined Germany and eine deutsche "forgot" norway and sweden were all too happy under the benevolent leadership of rejected painter. And all this double brainwashing in only one post! Too good :)
The autoloader is so special because it can also be loaded manually by a loader and, above all, the automatic system can unload already loaded bullets and load a different bullet that is required. So it is very flexible and very reliable. In addition, the rate of fire is unprecedented. Since the first shot hits/chance of destruction is very high, the tank also requires fewer projectiles.
@@NickAgbulos In theory, yes, but it was never built, so a simple sketch of a Death Star from Star Wars could be called the largest gun in the world, so unfortunately a concept is not worth a medal. But what was actually built and existed was the Maus, a steel colossus weighing 200 tons, but which could hardly operate in a suitable area of operation due to its high weight.
@@HenryDalcke Well mein Freund, Germans still make Mercedes, Audi, Porshe and I guess Opels too. And some of those cars are still highly coveted, are they not ?
@@melvinbennett444 "Germans still make Mercedes, Audi, Porshe and I guess Opels too." Well, yes, we are. But not for long anymore, I fear. Most of Germany's automobile manufacturers have had to lay off an enormous number of workers or relocate their operations abroad because energy costs have gone through the roof since the stupid Greens and the Left came to power. If this ideology-driven trend continues, we're f'ed very soon.
@@zero.Identity Which should NEVER be done. Did none of you all idiots on the internet ever watch Terminator? This is exactly, how this shit happens. Get your head out of the gutter, guys.
@@4epictime Was wollen Sie mit ihrem Kommentar sagen? Es brauchte eine ALLIANZ (die halbe Welt um NAZI-Deutschland) zu stoppen. Keine Land der Welt hätte es ALLEINE geschafft. Haben Sie aus gehustet und können wieder reden? NAZI-Deutschland hätte JEDES LAND gefickt im 1:1 also mehr Respekt du Wurm.
The FGS is designed to have 50% higher muzzle energy, not muzzle velocity. Velocity will likely be similar to the current 120mm gun but use a longer and heavier projectile.
The Panther is a prototype tank, but lot of further experiences will influence its design, there are threads that need an answer, especailly mines need to be detected and made visible for the operator.
Germany has always made fantastic weaponry. Back in the 50's when I was a little kid and interested in military weaponry, I immediately discounted American weapons. Wanting German made toys.
its all different now..Germany still has precision but like the Russians tried to teach them that super high precision fails in real conditions....America's weapons can't be touched and have been in combat now over 30 years......just think of the A10 alone.............
German "Panzer" are always exceptional good and if the Germans have time enough to test and evaluate this is the result The first "Panther" in 1943 was plagued by many little and some great " childhood illnesses" , this time "Rheinmetall" had enough time to exterminate all malfunctions and failures.... some poeple criticize the name "Panther" because in 1943 the "Panzerkampfwagen V" had the same "nickname" Panther
The german repair tank buffalo can replace a Leopard 2 engine in 30 minutes in the field.If the Buffalo ever needs a new engine it has a second engine for the vmcrane. German overengineering 2.0
When looking at tanks in WW2, one must not forget that the Panther suffered the most from the extra weight placed on it. The original plan was for it to be significantly lighter. Is it any wonder that the transmission was not as robust as it was given the extra weight? It wasn't designed for that, but it could be quite durable for a sensitive driver. You should also not forget that many of the workers in the factories were not professionals; a lot of forced laborers were used - their motivation to deliver a great product was certainly not very high. The chassis was very comfortable and provided good traction, the gun was even superior to that of the Tiger 1, although it had a smaller caliber of 7.5cm. On the other hand, the muzzle velocity was significantly higher and therefore the penetration was better.
@@duke6389 it's refreshing to see i'm not the only one who can be neutral when it's about german Engeneering. Not every German was a Nazi and every Nation has sceletons in the toilet or basement, whatever you want to call it.. Thank you for your foundet opinion...
@@ThuHtut Like, aintnoway people are the size of the crew hatches XD I think the thumbnail was made to appeal for broader audiences with less military knowledge that think bigger = better
The Yenghi use it all the time, from walls along the whole southern border, to sane candidates for the Republican party, cheap weapons, look at the massive overspends on ALL its weapons, the F-35, which was supposed to have an 80% commonality share, and is now not even sharing commonality of 18% parts. The Bradley, too expensive to sell to allies, so the army has to use them. The LTVP, so expensive that it is only the old models that get bought.
@@zaidiripin9408increased cost by a lot, logistic nightmare, limited to terrain and conditions smaller tanks easly handle, complicated maintenance ... toooooo many disadvantages for a modern warfare, way too many that 130mm can compensate in a 1 in a thousand situation
The Konigstiger (King Tiger) was a beast in WWII: it's 88mm main gun also built by Reimettel. Not surprising at all the Germans are leading this field.
@@MakotoAtava Both Henschel and Porsche produced the King Tiger, the Henschel version was preferred and mass produced because the design of the turret was easier to produce, the 8.8 cm KwK43 L71 was designed and made by Krupp.
Insane how Rheinmetall was/is ahead of it's time. They integrated drone protection, and tho some anticipated drones becoming crucial in modern warfare, they had it in in Summer 2022 already
all of these claims are either widely inaccurate or highly optimistic marketing claims. Half of what the video says doesn't even make sense, I'm 90% sure that script was written by ChatGPT. Its muzzle velocity isn't twice as high, its muzzle energy is. Of the cuav stuff, literally nothing that is shown is cuav. It just isn't. Complete nonsense. The video footage is also mostly completely unrelated, just random clips of military stuff.
Wow he got a lot wrong here, the 130mm has 50% more energy not velocity and yes that is a big difference. Secondly the 120mm also has programmable air burst ammo so that is not unique to the 130mm. He also got the range wrong, the 120mm can be effective far beyond 2,500m, the record tank kill with a 120mm was over twice that distance. All that said I do like this tank, I think it is a natural evolution of the MBT, integrating drone defense is a must have after the war in Ukraine.
Rheinmetall began the development of major subsystems for the Panther in 2016, with system-level design commencing in 2018. The Panther was developed as a private venture by Rheinmetall to demonstrate by 2026 the potential for increasing the lethality, mobility, survivability, and networking capabilities of MBTs without incurring a significant increase in weight. To reduce the weight of the Leopard 2A4 platform on which the development vehicle was based, Rheinmetall prioritised active over passive protection
This video reminds me a bit of those Mediashop commercials that try to sell you foldable ladders. "BUT WAIT! THERE'S MORE!!!"... haha just sensational.
the design was actually kept somewhat similar to the leopard 2 for maintenance reasons. like the engine is the same, yet still faster because its a couple tons lighter. though still changed up enough to not be the same
@@zero.Identity i would argue that we should start cooperating more with japan and korea, western cars are more and more prone to technical issues and this will be the same, both japanese and korean cars that are absolutly equal in terms of specs somehow end up with half the tech issues and im not talking about measly 2-3%, its more around the 10-12%, scale that up to 5.000 tanks and you get what i mean, its the go to saying among engineers and the natural fact that: the more there is that can go wrong, will go wrong, more tech = always more issues ... its probably 10x worse given the environment of this workhorse lol. it might be way more reasonable to outsource a big junk of these systems, basically like comparing you playing on your gaming pc vs gaming via stream through a server elsewhere ... but maybe thats just me, it obviously would create new problems due to 1) hacking 2) denying communication with said servers .... however, the weaponry in the present only aims at fucking up soviet
You missed few things: the KF51 Panther is now a joint-venture from Leonardo/Rheinmetall 50/50%, HQ is Rome, 60% will be build in Italy and 40% in Germany. Italy ordered 230 KF51 and 800 Lynx. Beside that from Auto-loader to the top notch electronic devices, they are provided by Leonardo, the loader is similar to that of the Centauro, Auto and Hand,of course big difference in size and stabilizers, the great engineering of the tank and cannon is provided by Rheinmetall. Leonardo provide also the Hitfact for the US Stryker DRS, and Greece will upgrade their Leo1A5 with Leonardo Hitfact turret
You gotta be kidding...they had TRACTORS in Poland and France, even Barbarosa was led by a freaking short barrel PZ 3 (my ex could fuck that thing). At Kursk (everything lost) they had a few of the new cats and the operational numbers were usually at max 10%. And if operational, they broke or got stuck after first 50meters. A bunch of silly western myths & legends just to make them look a bit less silly, same principle how Rommel was invented. By creating the great desert fox, the retarded, demented and senile British high command didn't appear as bad
@@Demun1649 Obvious answers for WW2 are Tiger 1&2 and Panther 1 Post war we have the Leopard 1 & 2 I'm not sure about the 1 but the Leopard 2 has a good reputation. The Marder is constructed in 1971 but still in use so I would count it as a good light tank. The Wiesel 1&2 are good tanks for modern warfare because they are so small and fast. I'm not sure how to count the PzH 2000 but it kinda looks like a tank so I would add it to the list. All of those tanks I mentioned have generally a good reputation
@@fhsvsoxifdv You got one. The best German tank of WW2. You cannot include the Tiger 1 or 2, they were both unreliable, a lot of mechanical problems, and they drank fuel faster than an Abram does. It was too heavy to cross road bridges. It always had to cross rivers by railways bridges, it was limited in its practical strategic and tactical uses.
Lucky Italiens. Germany will get ZERO kf51, instead they want to coorporate with the french on a Leopard successor. This will again end in tears and weak compromises to Germanys disadvantage like every project the french are involved.
@@nomenestomen3452 Heaven is: English humor, french kittchen and german engineering. Hell is.... german humor (debateble), english kittchen (probably) and french engineering (certainly!!). 🙂
@@paulhoffmann4521 That indeed sounds like hell. xD I just wonder how the Leopard successor tank the french/germans are building will benefit from the french kitchen though. ; )
@@nomenestomen3452 I dont think so - the Main Ground Combat System from KMW+NEXTER Defense Systems, ist expected to be ready at 2040 (some even say 2045), before Ukraine the Plan was to get new Leopard 2A8 (and Maybe even a 9 and 10) until then (we bought 123 during last and this year), but the last 2 years changed a lot. Rheinmetall developed the KF51 to close this Gap until 2040/45 because we (and Nato Partners) will need a new MBT sooner than we expected a few years ago, and they will be succesful I think, because of geopolitical changes. Germany will spend more money on defense (like most Nato Countrys will, cause they all will get to 2% or above) and waiting another 16-21 years for a new MBT is to long, that a whole Generation. The KF51 is not ready yet, and only has Hungary and Italy as Buyers - but I think when its ready in 2-4 years, the Bundeswehr will get some too, to close the Gap... and because they will be 15-20% cheaper than a Leopard according to Rheinmetall. But to be honest, South Korea is building excellent tanks too, for less than half of the Price they almost have the capabilites as a Leopard 2A7. Thats why Poland ordered 1000 southkorean K2 Black Panthers instead of Leopards this year.
And this is also why this vehicle will be a success because both the germans and italians are pretty good at producing modern military vehicles and have similar ideas about it, unlike the french and german cooperations :D
No, it is not. It's a solely German-developed (Rheinmetall) weaponry system. The German-Italian cooperation simply is about a number of those tanks being partially produced in Italy in the future for the italian military after Italy struck a deal with Rheinmetall in very favourable terms to Italy. And even if the tank would be a cooperation then you would need to put the "German" first because the German side obviously would have much more stakes in it.
Production of the already developed system(for the italian army) and the actual development itself is not the same, lil bro. That's like saying the F35 is an Italian-American development because parts of the F35 for the European countries are being produced in Italy...
I thought I read some reports about the Ukraine war where it turned out that not having an auto loader was actually an advantage because you have fewer points of failure and you don't have live munitions stored in the gun compartment making it saver for the crew.
@@Aaaaaron320 I never mentioned anything about a drone, i was reffering to stopping it from moving, which as a former Milan operator I can tell you isnt that difficult. Once it has been stopped by a mine (destruction of the tracks/road wheels/drive sprocket/front or rear idler) it can be targetted by long range artillery/missiles/aircraft.
this engineering from germany never suprised of this awesome fighting machine german engineering has always been diffrent class of its own and they have called it after the old WW2 panther tank top job germany 😊
I was tanker and stationed in Germany from 1983 to 1986. I was trained on an M60A1 at Fort Knox. Was deployed to an M60A3 at my unit in Germany (L-Troop, 11th ACR) and then transitioned to the M1. The original M1. I was also present at range 301 in Grafenwöhr when the Copperhead laser guided artillery round was fired for the first time in Europe. With the copperhead round a forward observer held a laser on a tank or other target and it guided the artillery shell right to the target. That means with a forward observer a 155mm artillery shell could hit a point target from over 18 miles away…and this was in the 1980´s. The problem that repeats itself over and over again is that generals always fight the last war. Yes the KF51 is an extremely impressive tank and it would be dominant weapon system on the battlefield of last century. I repeat…last century. Back in the 1980´s and 1990´s the main mission of a tank was to destroy other tanks and armored vehicles. Back then nothing could be more effective than a direct fire weapon against an armored vehicle. I stress back then. Now not only are weapons guided they are also “smart” and communicate with each other. There are now GPS guided artillery shells known as Excalibur that can hit point targets up to 35 miles. All this system needs is a bit of guidance from a loitering drone and I see no reason it can not do what the copperhead could do 40 years ago. Is the Natter going to stop a falling artillery shell? I do not think the reactive armor will be much help either. The Excalibur is a 155mm artillery shell. I would not want to be in the turret when a 155mm shell hit the top of it plus having a reactive armor charges going off. I can imagine that both of these explosions will cause quite a shockwave. The main battle tank is an outdated weapon system. There are to many other weapon systems that can easily destroy it from a distance. Not only do these systems cost a lot less money and are easier to produce than a tank, they are also getting smarter and more accurate with every version of AI that is being introduced.
Don't modern anti tank weapons fire the missile over the top of the the turret, then the missile shoots a projectile down and into the top of the turret. So it doesn't matter how much armour you have surrounding the main body of the tank. A bullet proof jacket isn't of much consequence if you get shot in the top of your head.
Very interesting input. I have not served in a military, but I love war history and weapon technology. In WW2 it became obvious that the weapon will win over the armorprotection. So mobility and recon became more and more important. But now we entered the next stage. Stealth and active protection seems to be the way to go.
@@charlesfarmer5749 Lima Leads! What was your job? Ah...the memories returning. OP India, OP Romeo, Border Partol. The Heavy Metal Playgrounds: Grafenwöhr, Hohenfels and Vilseck. Do you remember the stairs across the street from the front gate that lead down to Kettlerstraße? This was the short cut to town. These were the "Magic "stairs, appearing, disappearing and changing shape in the depths of the night. We would leave for town around 18:00, only to return at 01:00 to find the length of the stairs to have mysteriously elongated and their incline to have steepened, thus making our ascent much more difficult. Or that the entrance on Kettlerstraße has vanished entirely causing us to go around the long way. The next morning the stairs could be found in their correct location and restored to their original form. Prost! 🍺😄
The Swedish Stridsvagn 122 is nothing more than a modified Leopard 2. The KF51 shown here is also based on the chassis of the Leopard 2 and is therefore not a completely new development. That's not necessary, because the Leo2's hull and drive are excellent. The 130 caliber requires the autoloader for reasons of grenade weight. No human loader can lift the significantly heavier grenade in the time required. The programmable ammunition is also used in the Puma IFV, as well as in the MANTIS system and in the Skyranger and other models. This is not a Swedish specialty either.
Germany: *constructing a tank that could be a game changer on modern battlefields* Also Germany: *producing only a handful of these tanks for their own army which are constantly understand maintenance* It's going to be the same story as with the leopard 2. We Germans rarely disappoint...
If the KF51 Panther is to be a Game Changer on the modern battlefield, is Germany planning to send a compliment to Ukraine as a Field Test to see whether or not it is a Game Changer?
Last thing I heard was that Rheinmetall planned to build a factory in Ukraine. In any case, this tank is not yet ready for combat deployment and still needs a lot of detail work.
I believe they will just send some more leopard twos and test these new panther tanks in the safety of Germany, if they were going to send them to Ukraine, they would have to send their entire army there as well to make sure that this new panther tank doesn't fall into Russian hands.
@@AssassinIsAfk if a KF51 were to be captured by the Russians, its capture wouldn't make of a difference since Russian tank factories are experiencing a lot of difficulty just to build a new tank from the ground up, and that's because the Russians are losing more tanks faster than they can build a new tank which can take as long as 1 month just to build one modern main battle tank with all the bells and whistles.
I am curious about the recoil baffle at the base of the main gun. It looks as though both its geometry and connection to the main barrel is designed to "vibrate away" the recoil shockwave. Static guns are a nightmare for the inside crew because of the sound waves. With the increase in shell size and extra 1000 Metre distance, I imagine the shape of this unusual coupler has some critical role in both reducing the internal shock and overall dispersion of vibration from the noise. Excellent video. Thanks for keeping us Tank fans, up to date! Liked and Sub'd 😊
September 27, 2024 - Call me suspicious.. but this is a wonderful commercial for Rheinmetall.😏 However, I have seen other videos about this tank, and I hope it is adopted by the nations that need it. Further, I think that it has some features that any new tank designs should incorporate. As noted in the comments section here. It should be no surprise that Germany industry has been able to develop such a vehicle. As an old commercial on U.S. TV used to say.. "It's made in Germany.. and you know the Germans.. they make good stuff!"😁👍👍😊
I am not a tanker so if you are or understand this topic please enlighten me. When a tank crew wants to hit something hard at long range they fire a round that releases a Tungsten or Depleted Uranium dart with a 22-24mm in diameter, what difference does it make if the gun bore is 120mm or 130mm? If the key to achieving longer range is dictated by gun bore then wouldn't the 125 x 6000mm D-81 gun used on Russian tanks outrange the 120 x 5,280mm Rh120 gun used on many western tanks?
The diameter/size 130mm v 120mm, or even 100 or 105mm bore size has no relation to the projectile velocity. Velocity is determined by the powder charge, the weight of the projectile and the length of the barrel. As for the programable ammo the 100mm series is designed to be fired from T54/T54B/T55 MBTs, 105mm NATO gun such as M68, L7, F1even, 120mm NATO smooth-bore guns used by Merkava 3 and 4, Leo2A4/A5/A6, M1A1/A2, K1A1/A2, K2, ARIETA, M60A3 MBTs , and the 125mm series is certified for T-72 and T-90 firing systems all have programable rounds available. Is the rest of you data that poor?
@@jaripukki267 with the dart ammo (I don’t know the official name) you can keep the projectiles small. The actual darts are smaller than 120mm already and they are packed into a 120mm shell that fills the complete caliber. I wouldn’t see a problem, to keep the dart as it is and just increase the shellsize to 130mm. But I am no expert in this topic, maybe there are reasons why it isn’t possible to. Edit: i just checked Wikipedia for the name. The ammo type calls ‚kinetic energy penetrator‘. They belong to the APCR family. The darts have subcaliber size. And yes, it should be possible to just increase the charge and leave the dart at its original size
@@Tobias042 it is possible to keep same size, but bigger gun gives you chance to upsize the dart as increasing it's mass==> longer range and bigger impact force
Germany, since ancient times, showed huge potential in craftsmanship as documented by the Romans who tried to invade this mysterious land. And so it has always been. Even today, they could easily exceed any industrial nation if they needed to. They're particularly good at making weapons due to historic conditions and situational demand. A lot could be said, but im no expert, so I will leave room for more accurate analysis. Greetings from Sweden ❤
I'm sorry as much as I loved tanks as a child and built loads of all the WW II tanks models by monogram . They are mobile coffins now. Drones are the future period! When a 2000$ drone defeats a tank worth millions or just puts it out of service its a no brainer. Now if this tank is supported by support drones then ya . But IMO drones have already proven themself as the future.
Every new offensive weapon has been matched by new or improved defensive weapons. Tanks are modern heavy cavalry. Until something replaces tanks in that niche, innovation will provide new defensive capabilities to tanks to allow them to fulfill their mission, or that mission will be supplemented by counter drones, or other counter measures to cripple them (ranging from local ECM measures to EMP events.)
Drones are having their issues as well. Simple jamming can knock them out. No communication no attack. This is another tank with an Anti-Drone defense. Would not be surprised to see tanks start carrying drones for surveillance. Tanks will be around for awhile longer.
That "tank" in 3:20 looked very much like a self propelled howitzer. The german Panzerhaubitze 2000 (PzH2000) is an howitzer and uses an autoloader too.
If we still used older ammo types. Todays ammo won't stick together like a Shell would in WW2. If a modern round (APFSDS) doesn't penetrate then it will shatter and lose all its kenetic energy, and will only be a danger to nearby people on the outside of the tank.
I believe it is a composite screen similar to what the Leo 2 has. There are images of the tank without it and the turret is a lot shorter and narrower. Modern munitions are so fast and powerful that there wouldn't be any danger of a shot trap, so it's there as a method to prematurely neutralize the incoming round.
@@Marshmallow603 The new Leopard 2 tank grenade has a propellant specially developed for this purpose. This only burns when hit, but does not explode. And the warhead of an APFSDS grenade does not contain any explosives anyway. I'm sorry that you don't seem to have this information, but you are wrong.
Took the west few months to get around the drones with a Natter. Russia invented the turtle tank then failed miserably, then invented solder meat on motorcycles, then failed, now trying solders as many as possible of them inside a golf car made in China, also failed. 🤣🤣
Every tank has 3 weakspots: gun, tracks, tower-connection, no matter how big a tank is. During WW2 German engineers wanted to build a really huge tank already. Now it's done. I just imagine how this tank can manage swamps or 3 m deep mud orf wet sand on a beach. Adolf Hitler itself said that the German miltary was good weather miltary. This tank may be superior on solid terrain. But how is the performance on difficult terrain?
All well and good, but (i) autoloaders are usually very fragile -- which is why most countries decided not to use them and (ii) tanks don't fight tanks directly like in WWII anymore, enemy armor is usually destroyed by airforce, whereas tanks mainly support the infantry.
Did i hear that right?! 2 rounds every 3 seconds ?! This tank will be a monster in war thunder 💀
itll prolly come 2030 tho xd
I've heard that too and had to rewind, lol
gaijin: hmmmm 3 secounds for 2 rounds to reload? lets put it at 1.1
you where thinking the same what I thought
fire rate like the American HSTLV
"There is nothing as intelligent as an engineer... Well... except a German engineer"
Agreed!
das ist wohl so...
just Imagine that Country cant repair a pipline ^^ das ist wirklich komisch...
@@X197ToPlay Huh? Why exactly should they repair the Pipeline? To then not buy russian Gas, which is then not being delivered through the pipeline?
@@X197ToPlayand now comes the main thing. Why should we fix this? And there's nothing funny about that.
Germany leading in the tank industry where have i heard this before
Well since WW2 until Today.
@@TorianTammas Ukraine 1941-2025 lol
We lead in most things.
@@MrGerdbrecht...except for winning world wars ...
@@jamieharmer5654 Yeah, but we kinda had 80 consecutive years of peace after that. And now comes stupid russia and wants to war again in the 21st century. Russia hasn't karma/morale on its side. Like us then. Thatswhy i thought they learned something.
The Panther is Back in the game
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It's Panther I think.
Hoffentlich nie wie früher ;)
I'll be waiting for the Tiger.
@@Cernumospete me too
LEAVE it to the Germans to be creative on weapons.
„Der Tod ist ein Meister aus Deutschland“ (Paul Celan).
Death is a master from Germany (Paul Celan).
These days it's usually the Americans, although the Abrams tank is a bit iffy, remove the engine for an oil change?? what genius thought of that?
@@albundy9597 f35 lighting is a masterpiece tho
@@xNFR F35 is a piece of shit, not working how it should. Self Destructing
@@albundy9597 americans were only able to jump that much in technology because a lot of german engineers and scientists fled to the US.
Glad to have the Germans on our side now, unlike in the last war. My grandparents had to live in very poor conditions here in Norway with ration cards and forced labor, but I forgive it, if this technology help keep safe my son from future wars.
Glad to have countries like Norway, Sweden and Finland on our side. Regards from Munich.
Actually the Germans were on your side..
Norwegian "forgot" they joined Germany and eine deutsche "forgot" norway and sweden were all too happy under the benevolent leadership of rejected painter. And all this double brainwashing in only one post! Too good :)
@@JanKnoesterno we Germans attacked Norway but the war was very short, so after like 3 months or so, Norway was part of Germany
What do you mean by "our side" . You fought the wrong enemy in ww2
German engineers be like: I’m smarter, I’m stronger, I’m better, I AM BETTERRRRRR
Yeah…. How did that work out in 1945? Same attitude and ideology.
@@CULT539 Oh dear. What are you afraid of ?
@@CULT539They were still far more advanced than any country
...I am much more BETTERRRRR.
Europa was no Problem ,but against Russia & USA? Think yourself @@CULT539
The autoloader is so special because it can also be loaded manually by a loader and, above all, the automatic system can unload already loaded bullets and load a different bullet that is required. So it is very flexible and very reliable. In addition, the rate of fire is unprecedented.
Since the first shot hits/chance of destruction is very high, the tank also requires fewer projectiles.
Russian tanks have been auto loading for ages.
@@ロクアンドロルしかない Yeah an autoloader design that gets the crew killed.
@aural_supremacy and have wonderful flying quality in Ukraine 😂😂😂😂
The biggest tank is the p10000 rat
@@NickAgbulos In theory, yes, but it was never built, so a simple sketch of a Death Star from Star Wars could be called the largest gun in the world, so unfortunately a concept is not worth a medal. But what was actually built and existed was the Maus, a steel colossus weighing 200 tons, but which could hardly operate in a suitable area of operation due to its high weight.
Looks like someone woke up their inner german engineering
Not german, plans for the tank were bought from the Poles. Remember the PL-02? This is the PL 02.
@@yetennn4741 not true
@@hanswestenhagen8750 almost every aspect is from pl 02
@@hanswestenhagen8750 gun armor,drones etc.
The Germans have always made the best stuff ! From toys to models to cars to tanks !
Nah germans bought the plans for the tank from Poles
Which Germans do you know, mein Freund? As a German I can assure you that things have changed dramatically since Angela Merkel and Olaf Scholz.
@@HenryDalcke Well mein Freund, Germans still make Mercedes, Audi, Porshe and I guess Opels too.
And some of those cars are still highly coveted, are they not ?
@@melvinbennett444 "Germans still make Mercedes, Audi, Porshe and I guess Opels too."
Well, yes, we are. But not for long anymore, I fear. Most of Germany's automobile manufacturers have had to lay off an enormous number of workers or relocate their operations abroad because energy costs have gone through the roof since the stupid Greens and the Left came to power. If this ideology-driven trend continues, we're f'ed very soon.
@@melvinbennett444but He is right German quality we know is a Thing of the past
Leopard 2 on steroids
In der Tat.
basically. but even better. also not mentioned in this video, it can be upgraded to be fully autonomous in the future at some point. if needed
@@zero.Identity Which should NEVER be done. Did none of you all idiots on the internet ever watch Terminator? This is exactly, how this shit happens. Get your head out of the gutter, guys.
@bread1778 I like your name
Finally a tank made for the 21. century... Good job Rhein Metall!
Good thing we’re allies 🙃
1940s cough*
Not for long 🇩🇪😅
@@4epictime Was wollen Sie mit ihrem Kommentar sagen? Es brauchte eine ALLIANZ (die halbe Welt um NAZI-Deutschland) zu stoppen. Keine Land der Welt hätte es ALLEINE geschafft. Haben Sie aus gehustet und können wieder reden? NAZI-Deutschland hätte JEDES LAND gefickt im 1:1 also mehr Respekt du Wurm.
for now
Well at some point we also had a non attack deal - it didn't work.
The FGS is designed to have 50% higher muzzle energy, not muzzle velocity. Velocity will likely be similar to the current 120mm gun but use a longer and heavier projectile.
Thank you for clarifying. 50% increase in velocity with that 10mm increase in diameter would be about 2x muzzle energy, which sounded way too good.
so the speed stays the same but but the power or rather projectile size increases?
@@Koulmoir Basically
Armor piercing sobots need certain speed to penetrate higher speed is not always favourable anyway
The Panther is a prototype tank, but lot of further experiences will influence its design, there are threads that need an answer, especailly mines need to be detected and made visible for the operator.
German technology
Germany has always made fantastic weaponry. Back in the 50's when I was a little kid and interested in military weaponry, I immediately discounted American weapons. Wanting German made toys.
its all different now..Germany still has precision but like the Russians tried to teach them that super high precision fails in real conditions....America's weapons can't be touched and have been in combat now over 30 years......just think of the A10 alone.............
That's so cool 😂
But this panther is based from Polish concept tank- PL-02
German "Panzer" are always exceptional good and if the Germans have time enough to test and evaluate this is the result
The first "Panther" in 1943 was plagued by many little and some great " childhood illnesses" , this time "Rheinmetall" had enough time to exterminate all malfunctions and failures.... some poeple criticize the name "Panther" because in 1943 the "Panzerkampfwagen V" had the same "nickname" Panther
better with bacon
The german repair tank buffalo can replace a Leopard 2 engine in 30 minutes in the field.If the Buffalo ever needs a new engine it has a second engine for the vmcrane. German overengineering 2.0
When looking at tanks in WW2, one must not forget that the Panther suffered the most from the extra weight placed on it. The original plan was for it to be significantly lighter. Is it any wonder that the transmission was not as robust as it was given the extra weight? It wasn't designed for that, but it could be quite durable for a sensitive driver. You should also not forget that many of the workers in the factories were not professionals; a lot of forced laborers were used - their motivation to deliver a great product was certainly not very high. The chassis was very comfortable and provided good traction, the gun was even superior to that of the Tiger 1, although it had a smaller caliber of 7.5cm. On the other hand, the muzzle velocity was significantly higher and therefore the penetration was better.
@@duke6389 it's refreshing to see i'm not the only one who can be neutral when it's about german Engeneering. Not every German was a Nazi and every Nation has sceletons in the toilet or basement, whatever you want to call it..
Thank you for your foundet opinion...
@@heinwein421 Also pretty sure that a tanks effectiveness isn´t reliant on their manufacturers ideology.
The first thing I noticed was how much photoshop went into the thumbnail, the new panther tank is like half as small as the thumbnail
I thought of the Maus straightaway. DEAD END, I thought.
@@Demun1649 same
@@ThuHtut Like, aintnoway people are the size of the crew hatches XD
I think the thumbnail was made to appeal for broader audiences with less military knowledge that think bigger = better
@@Epsilon2042 no man I thought the maus is coming back
@@ThuHtut XD
game-changer feels like i've heard that before but where?
Yeah, didn't end up changing much...
Wunderwaffe 4.0!
game changer = 500% price increase with 10% performance improvement
The Yenghi use it all the time, from walls along the whole southern border, to sane candidates for the Republican party, cheap weapons, look at the massive overspends on ALL its weapons, the F-35, which was supposed to have an 80% commonality share, and is now not even sharing commonality of 18% parts. The Bradley, too expensive to sell to allies, so the army has to use them. The LTVP, so expensive that it is only the old models that get bought.
@@zaidiripin9408increased cost by a lot, logistic nightmare, limited to terrain and conditions smaller tanks easly handle, complicated maintenance ... toooooo many disadvantages for a modern warfare, way too many that 130mm can compensate in a 1 in a thousand situation
The Konigstiger (King Tiger) was a beast in WWII: it's 88mm main gun also built by Reimettel. Not surprising at all the Germans are leading this field.
Nop, the Koenigstiger was from Henschel not Rheinmetall.
@@MakotoAtava the 88mm GUN was Reimettel.
Wasn't the 88 built by krupp,s?
@@leecolclough2492 Till met Soviets , then not much leading :)
@@MakotoAtava Both Henschel and Porsche produced the King Tiger, the Henschel version was preferred and mass produced because the design of the turret was easier to produce, the 8.8 cm KwK43 L71 was designed and made by Krupp.
The interresting part is honestly its speed and distance and recon ability while having tools against drones.
The German tech tree rlly getting the update they needed to bring them back 😭
Insane how Rheinmetall was/is ahead of it's time. They integrated drone protection, and tho some anticipated drones becoming crucial in modern warfare, they had it in in Summer 2022 already
...but it seems to disappear after the summer 22.
all of these claims are either widely inaccurate or highly optimistic marketing claims. Half of what the video says doesn't even make sense, I'm 90% sure that script was written by ChatGPT. Its muzzle velocity isn't twice as high, its muzzle energy is. Of the cuav stuff, literally nothing that is shown is cuav. It just isn't. Complete nonsense. The video footage is also mostly completely unrelated, just random clips of military stuff.
Wow he got a lot wrong here, the 130mm has 50% more energy not velocity and yes that is a big difference. Secondly the 120mm also has programmable air burst ammo so that is not unique to the 130mm. He also got the range wrong, the 120mm can be effective far beyond 2,500m, the record tank kill with a 120mm was over twice that distance. All that said I do like this tank, I think it is a natural evolution of the MBT, integrating drone defense is a must have after the war in Ukraine.
he was just repeating Rheinmetall commercial add. Appaling.
Thanks, Beyond Military.
Rheinmetall began the development of major subsystems for the Panther in 2016, with system-level design commencing in 2018. The Panther was developed as a private venture by Rheinmetall to demonstrate by 2026
the potential for increasing the lethality, mobility, survivability, and networking capabilities of MBTs without incurring a significant increase in weight. To reduce the weight of the Leopard 2A4 platform on which the development vehicle was based, Rheinmetall prioritised active over passive protection
This video reminds me a bit of those Mediashop commercials that try to sell you foldable ladders. "BUT WAIT! THERE'S MORE!!!"... haha just sensational.
germans had some of the most advanced tanks of world war two and looks like theve still got it
I wonder how reliable and how easy to maintain it will be... This looks like a high maintenance princess like the F35
the design was actually kept somewhat similar to the leopard 2 for maintenance reasons. like the engine is the same, yet still faster because its a couple tons lighter.
though still changed up enough to not be the same
@@zero.Identity i would argue that we should start cooperating more with japan and korea, western cars are more and more prone to technical issues and this will be the same, both japanese and korean cars that are absolutly equal in terms of specs somehow end up with half the tech issues and im not talking about measly 2-3%, its more around the 10-12%, scale that up to 5.000 tanks and you get what i mean, its the go to saying among engineers and the natural fact that: the more there is that can go wrong, will go wrong, more tech = always more issues ... its probably 10x worse given the environment of this workhorse lol.
it might be way more reasonable to outsource a big junk of these systems, basically like comparing you playing on your gaming pc vs gaming via stream through a server elsewhere ... but maybe thats just me, it obviously would create new problems due to 1) hacking 2) denying communication with said servers .... however, the weaponry in the present only aims at fucking up soviet
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So this is how it feel to see german tank like in 1940's pretty awesome tho
Traditionally good tank builders those Germans.
You missed few things: the KF51 Panther is now a joint-venture from Leonardo/Rheinmetall 50/50%, HQ is Rome, 60% will be build in Italy and 40% in Germany. Italy ordered 230 KF51 and 800 Lynx. Beside that from Auto-loader to the top notch electronic devices, they are provided by Leonardo, the loader is similar to that of the Centauro, Auto and Hand,of course big difference in size and stabilizers, the great engineering of the tank and cannon is provided by Rheinmetall. Leonardo provide also the Hitfact for the US Stryker DRS, and Greece will upgrade their Leo1A5 with Leonardo Hitfact turret
Germany is back in the Game :)
With bought Polish plans for the tank its modified PL-02
Germany made some great tanks during WWII.
You gotta be kidding...they had TRACTORS in Poland and France, even Barbarosa was led by a freaking short barrel PZ 3 (my ex could fuck that thing). At Kursk (everything lost) they had a few of the new cats and the operational numbers were usually at max 10%. And if operational, they broke or got stuck after first 50meters. A bunch of silly western myths & legends just to make them look a bit less silly, same principle how Rommel was invented. By creating the great desert fox, the retarded, demented and senile British high command didn't appear as bad
Name them. I can think of just one.
@@Demun1649
Obvious answers for WW2 are
Tiger 1&2 and Panther 1
Post war we have the Leopard 1 & 2
I'm not sure about the 1 but the Leopard 2 has a good reputation.
The Marder is constructed in 1971 but still in use so I would count it as a good light tank. The Wiesel 1&2 are good tanks for modern warfare because they are so small and fast.
I'm not sure how to count the PzH 2000 but it kinda looks like a tank so I would add it to the list.
All of those tanks I mentioned have generally a good reputation
Panther was the best in ww2 tigers are all trash and waste of money@@Demun1649
@@fhsvsoxifdv You got one. The best German tank of WW2. You cannot include the Tiger 1 or 2, they were both unreliable, a lot of mechanical problems, and they drank fuel faster than an Abram does. It was too heavy to cross road bridges. It always had to cross rivers by railways bridges, it was limited in its practical strategic and tactical uses.
Bros waffling 😂
When you have a word count on your essay:
We may not be good at winning wars, but we sure do make good tanks😎
Imagine being a soldier and the first thing you see on the battlefield was the maus...
Precision German Engineering
The thumbnail of the tank is hilariously scaled with the tiny people.
And it looks very slick, too.
The first video on youtube history that has the thumbnail in the content.
With all the drones and the extra crew member, every tank could be a mobile tactical operational armoured headquarters! So cool!
You don't know that panther and lynx (kf51 and kf41) will be the next tank/ccv of italian army. Italy is buying 200 kf51 and 1000 kf41.
Lucky Italiens. Germany will get ZERO kf51, instead they want to coorporate with the french on a Leopard successor. This will again end in tears and weak compromises to Germanys disadvantage like every project the french are involved.
@@nomenestomen3452 Heaven is: English humor, french kittchen and german engineering. Hell is.... german humor (debateble), english kittchen (probably) and french engineering (certainly!!). 🙂
@@paulhoffmann4521 Have English humor???...This is new to me!
@@paulhoffmann4521 That indeed sounds like hell. xD I just wonder how the Leopard successor tank the french/germans are building will benefit from the french kitchen though. ; )
@@nomenestomen3452 I dont think so - the Main Ground Combat System from KMW+NEXTER Defense Systems, ist expected to be ready at 2040 (some even say 2045), before Ukraine the Plan was to get new Leopard 2A8 (and Maybe even a 9 and 10) until then (we bought 123 during last and this year), but the last 2 years changed a lot.
Rheinmetall developed the KF51 to close this Gap until 2040/45 because we (and Nato Partners) will need a new MBT sooner than we expected a few years ago, and they will be succesful I think, because of geopolitical changes. Germany will spend more money on defense (like most Nato Countrys will, cause they all will get to 2% or above) and waiting another 16-21 years for a new MBT is to long, that a whole Generation. The KF51 is not ready yet, and only has Hungary and Italy as Buyers - but I think when its ready in 2-4 years, the Bundeswehr will get some too, to close the Gap... and because they will be 15-20% cheaper than a Leopard according to Rheinmetall. But to be honest, South Korea is building excellent tanks too, for less than half of the Price they almost have the capabilites as a Leopard 2A7. Thats why Poland ordered 1000 southkorean K2 Black Panthers instead of Leopards this year.
In World of Tanks the tank is a "cheat code".
every three seconds,... holy shit!
2 bullets each 3 seconds huh? That means it can fire more then the ammunition storage in less then a minute 😂
Rheinmetall war gear allways looks like 10 years from the future.
What's with the massive bullet trap between the turret and the front glasis plate?
imagine hitting a wall with your hand but it doesnt just hurt, in fact your hand is now missing
It's an Italian -German cooperation .Leonardo and Rheinmetall togheter
Don't write it to them, or all the English users who read it will die instantly...🤣🤣🤣
@@extremathule982 🤣🤣
And this is also why this vehicle will be a success because both the germans and italians are pretty good at producing modern military vehicles and have similar ideas about it, unlike the french and german cooperations :D
No, it is not. It's a solely German-developed (Rheinmetall) weaponry system. The German-Italian cooperation simply is about a number of those tanks being partially produced in Italy in the future for the italian military after Italy struck a deal with Rheinmetall in very favourable terms to Italy. And even if the tank would be a cooperation then you would need to put the "German" first because the German side obviously would have much more stakes in it.
Production of the already developed system(for the italian army) and the actual development itself is not the same, lil bro. That's like saying the F35 is an Italian-American development because parts of the F35 for the European countries are being produced in Italy...
Will be a hell of a job to maintaining such a feature packed tank. More parts that can break.
Awesome German tank. At 0:48 the camo shape looks oddly familiar.
amogus?
Annalena's Werbespruch, "The Bacon of hope." 😂
Germany never disappoints when it comes to tanks since 1942.
They do
@@Kaungkhantzin7 very often rlly
Since from ww2 they have been building super tank like the tiger tanks they might build a new one like that panther
Transmission in panther was breaking down very often
1:59 nahhh he did not say that💀
The County is on the ground, but Panthers are rolling😂😅😢
seen that before…
I was wondering when Germany was going to use auto loaders more then just their G-2000.
I thought I read some reports about the Ukraine war where it turned out that not having an auto loader was actually an advantage because you have fewer points of failure and you don't have live munitions stored in the gun compartment making it saver for the crew.
It still has the fragile tracks of all tanks. A small mine or drone can damage these and convert it into a 6 million dollar steel coffin.
There's no such thing as a Indestructible Tank Track, because if they existed, every tank and other tracked vehicle would already have them.
100% ! Tracks are the weakest link, stop it moving and pick it off in your own time!
Drone has to reach it first...
@@Aaaaaron320 I never mentioned anything about a drone, i was reffering to stopping it from moving, which as a former Milan operator I can tell you isnt that difficult. Once it has been stopped by a mine (destruction of the tracks/road wheels/drive sprocket/front or rear idler) it can be targetted by long range artillery/missiles/aircraft.
So what do you suggest to do otherwise?
Nice to see the challenger 3 will have some competition
My God.....zi germans.....❤
this engineering from germany never suprised of this awesome fighting machine german engineering has always been diffrent class of its own and they have called it after the old WW2 panther tank top job germany 😊
I was tanker and stationed in Germany from 1983 to 1986. I was trained on an M60A1 at Fort Knox. Was deployed to an M60A3 at my unit in Germany (L-Troop, 11th ACR) and then transitioned to the M1. The original M1. I was also present at range 301 in Grafenwöhr when the Copperhead laser guided artillery round was fired for the first time in Europe. With the copperhead round a forward observer held a laser on a tank or other target and it guided the artillery shell right to the target. That means with a forward observer a 155mm artillery shell could hit a point target from over 18 miles away…and this was in the 1980´s.
The problem that repeats itself over and over again is that generals always fight the last war. Yes the KF51 is an extremely impressive tank and it would be dominant weapon system on the battlefield of last century. I repeat…last century.
Back in the 1980´s and 1990´s the main mission of a tank was to destroy other tanks and armored vehicles. Back then nothing could be more effective than a direct fire weapon against an armored vehicle. I stress back then.
Now not only are weapons guided they are also “smart” and communicate with each other.
There are now GPS guided artillery shells known as Excalibur that can hit point targets up to 35 miles. All this system needs is a bit of guidance from a loitering drone and I see no reason it can not do what the copperhead could do 40 years ago. Is the Natter going to stop a falling artillery shell?
I do not think the reactive armor will be much help either. The Excalibur is a 155mm artillery shell. I would not want to be in the turret when a 155mm shell hit the top of it plus having a reactive armor charges going off. I can imagine that both of these explosions will cause quite a shockwave.
The main battle tank is an outdated weapon system. There are to many other weapon systems that can easily destroy it from a distance. Not only do these systems cost a lot less money and are easier to produce than a tank, they are also getting smarter and more accurate with every version of AI that is being introduced.
Don't modern anti tank weapons fire the missile over the top of the the turret, then the missile shoots a projectile down and into the top of the turret. So it doesn't matter how much armour you have surrounding the main body of the tank. A bullet proof jacket isn't of much consequence if you get shot in the top of your head.
Very interesting input. I have not served in a military, but I love war history and weapon technology. In WW2 it became obvious that the weapon will win over the armorprotection. So mobility and recon became more and more important. But now we entered the next stage. Stealth and active protection seems to be the way to go.
The Panther has a top attack protection similar to trophy. So it can destroy incoming artillery shells just like it can incoming loitering drones.
L-Troop 3/11th ACR 1974-1977
@@charlesfarmer5749 Lima Leads! What was your job? Ah...the memories returning. OP India, OP Romeo, Border Partol. The Heavy Metal Playgrounds: Grafenwöhr, Hohenfels and Vilseck. Do you remember the stairs across the street from the front gate that lead down to Kettlerstraße? This was the short cut to town. These were the "Magic "stairs, appearing, disappearing and changing shape in the depths of the night. We would leave for town around 18:00, only to return at 01:00 to find the length of the stairs to have mysteriously elongated and their incline to have steepened, thus making our ascent much more difficult. Or that the entrance on Kettlerstraße has vanished entirely causing us to go around the long way. The next morning the stairs could be found in their correct location and restored to their original form. Prost! 🍺😄
Russia: ''fix bayonets!''
Germany:
Guderian & Rommel approve
The exploding armor to stop the force of a rocket is truly a 200 IQ idea.
basically every tank has reactive armor nowadays.
Bring back the TIGER!
Love the clickbait with the tiny people 😂😂😂
Btw great Video ❤
Some things taken from Swedens Strv 122 and CV 90 liko ammo to kill infantery behind hills, anti-tank robots, enable to kill drones.
The Swedish Stridsvagn 122 is nothing more than a modified Leopard 2. The KF51 shown here is also based on the chassis of the Leopard 2 and is therefore not a completely new development. That's not necessary, because the Leo2's hull and drive are excellent. The 130 caliber requires the autoloader for reasons of grenade weight. No human loader can lift the significantly heavier grenade in the time required. The programmable ammunition is also used in the Puma IFV, as well as in the MANTIS system and in the Skyranger and other models. This is not a Swedish specialty either.
I like the Minecraft camouflage! ^^
Guys what happen?!?!?!
I had stopped at the panzer 1...
Germany: *constructing a tank that could be a game changer on modern battlefields*
Also Germany: *producing only a handful of these tanks for their own army which are constantly understand maintenance*
It's going to be the same story as with the leopard 2. We Germans rarely disappoint...
Germany will give them to Ukraine for free -.-
i love how he calls having less ammunition a drawback, its not like you are gonna be destroying more than 20 tanks on the battlefield
a tank almost never fires at other tanks
@@Marshmallow603 Yeah but what i am saying is tanks don't use their main cannons against infantry or PC's, they use their MG"s or their secondary
@@Tob-Balčiūnas they do use main gun for some pc's, like if they are not completely side on or too far
We got to get these things,good for work in a country
If the KF51 Panther is to be a Game Changer on the modern battlefield, is Germany planning to send a compliment to Ukraine as a Field Test to see whether or not it is a Game Changer?
We still wait for the Armata 14 that never entered serial production
That would be stupid.imagine getting captured
Last thing I heard was that Rheinmetall planned to build a factory in Ukraine. In any case, this tank is not yet ready for combat deployment and still needs a lot of detail work.
I believe they will just send some more leopard twos and test these new panther tanks in the safety of Germany, if they were going to send them to Ukraine, they would have to send their entire army there as well to make sure that this new panther tank doesn't fall into Russian hands.
@@AssassinIsAfk if a KF51 were to be captured by the Russians, its capture wouldn't make of a difference since Russian tank factories are experiencing a lot of difficulty just to build a new tank from the ground up, and that's because the Russians are losing more tanks faster than they can build a new tank which can take as long as 1 month just to build one modern main battle tank with all the bells and whistles.
Germany finally puts a capable engine into it's new tank.
Third time's the charm.
I am curious about the recoil baffle at the base of the main gun. It looks as though both its geometry and connection to the main barrel is designed to
"vibrate away" the recoil shockwave. Static guns are a nightmare for the inside crew because of the sound waves. With the increase in shell size and extra 1000 Metre distance, I imagine the shape of this unusual coupler has some critical role in both reducing the internal shock and overall dispersion of vibration from the noise.
Excellent video.
Thanks for keeping us Tank fans, up to date!
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The result over the duration is TBI.
September 27, 2024 - Call me suspicious.. but this is a wonderful commercial for Rheinmetall.😏 However, I have seen other videos about this tank, and I hope it is adopted by the nations that need it. Further, I think that it has some features that any new tank designs should incorporate. As noted in the comments section here. It should be no surprise that Germany industry has been able to develop such a vehicle. As an old commercial on U.S. TV used to say.. "It's made in Germany.. and you know the Germans.. they make good stuff!"😁👍👍😊
Dieser Kommentarbereich ist nun Eigentum der Bundesrepublik Deutschland. 🇩🇪
I am not a tanker so if you are or understand this topic please enlighten me.
When a tank crew wants to hit something hard at long range they fire a round that releases a Tungsten or Depleted Uranium dart with a 22-24mm in diameter, what difference does it make if the gun bore is 120mm or 130mm?
If the key to achieving longer range is dictated by gun bore then wouldn't the 125 x 6000mm D-81 gun used on Russian tanks outrange the 120 x 5,280mm Rh120 gun used on many western tanks?
The diameter/size 130mm v 120mm, or even 100 or 105mm bore size has no relation to the projectile velocity. Velocity is determined by the powder charge, the weight of the projectile and the length of the barrel. As for the programable ammo the 100mm series is designed to be fired from T54/T54B/T55 MBTs, 105mm NATO gun such as M68, L7, F1even, 120mm NATO smooth-bore guns used by Merkava 3 and 4, Leo2A4/A5/A6, M1A1/A2, K1A1/A2, K2, ARIETA, M60A3 MBTs , and the 125mm series is certified for T-72 and T-90 firing systems all have programable rounds available. Is the rest of you data that poor?
Tests shown that new gun has 50% more power and accurate range increases by 2000m in which properties still are same as 120mm
Well, you can put a bigger charge into a 130mm cannon, so it does influence the shell velocity
@@Tobias042 and the mass of projectile is greater too, which means bigger bang and range
@@jaripukki267 with the dart ammo (I don’t know the official name) you can keep the projectiles small.
The actual darts are smaller than 120mm already and they are packed into a 120mm shell that fills the complete caliber.
I wouldn’t see a problem, to keep the dart as it is and just increase the shellsize to 130mm.
But I am no expert in this topic, maybe there are reasons why it isn’t possible to.
Edit: i just checked Wikipedia for the name. The ammo type calls ‚kinetic energy penetrator‘. They belong to the APCR family.
The darts have subcaliber size.
And yes, it should be possible to just increase the charge and leave the dart at its original size
@@Tobias042 it is possible to keep same size, but bigger gun gives you chance to upsize the dart as increasing it's mass==> longer range and bigger impact force
I don't know about you all, but the KF-51 Panther battle tank looks like something that Megatron would take as his alt-mode.
Germany, since ancient times, showed huge potential in craftsmanship as documented by the Romans who tried to invade this mysterious land.
And so it has always been. Even today, they could easily exceed any industrial nation if they needed to.
They're particularly good at making weapons due to historic conditions and situational demand.
A lot could be said, but im no expert, so I will leave room for more accurate analysis.
Greetings from Sweden ❤
They r good at building but not planning, this "new" panther is modified PL-02
ive never heard of a tank sending out drones thats cool
I'm sorry as much as I loved tanks as a child and built loads of all the WW II tanks models by monogram . They are mobile coffins now. Drones are the future period! When a 2000$ drone defeats a tank worth millions or just puts it out of service its a no brainer. Now if this tank is supported by support drones then ya . But IMO drones have already proven themself as the future.
Every new offensive weapon has been matched by new or improved defensive weapons. Tanks are modern heavy cavalry. Until something replaces tanks in that niche, innovation will provide new defensive capabilities to tanks to allow them to fulfill their mission, or that mission will be supplemented by counter drones, or other counter measures to cripple them (ranging from local ECM measures to EMP events.)
Drones are having their issues as well. Simple jamming can knock them out. No communication no attack. This is another tank with an Anti-Drone defense. Would not be surprised to see tanks start carrying drones for surveillance. Tanks will be around for awhile longer.
You didn’t watch the video, did you?
They have drone defense systems on board so no drone can even get close to such a modern tank
Drones are effective because they're fighting a static war.
That "tank" in 3:20 looked very much like a self propelled howitzer. The german Panzerhaubitze 2000 (PzH2000) is an howitzer and uses an autoloader too.
Is it just me or does that not look like a huge shot trap in the front. Or is there something I'm not seeing here?
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If we still used older ammo types. Todays ammo won't stick together like a Shell would in WW2. If a modern round (APFSDS) doesn't penetrate then it will shatter and lose all its kenetic energy, and will only be a danger to nearby people on the outside of the tank.
I believe it is a composite screen similar to what the Leo 2 has. There are images of the tank without it and the turret is a lot shorter and narrower. Modern munitions are so fast and powerful that there wouldn't be any danger of a shot trap, so it's there as a method to prematurely neutralize the incoming round.
sure, if we were in the 80s. Not really relevant anymore...
Glorification of military equipment is exactly what we need these days. irony off.
oh no, litte guy is scared
Autoloader?
*having flying turrets flashes in my mind*
Except that the German grenade ammunition doesn't explode when hit. So this is no comparison to the Russians' UFOs.
@@duke6389 it does explode. it is LESS likely but it will still explode, but then blowout still exists so who cares
@@Marshmallow603 The new Leopard 2 tank grenade has a propellant specially developed for this purpose. This only burns when hit, but does not explode. And the warhead of an APFSDS grenade does not contain any explosives anyway. I'm sorry that you don't seem to have this information, but you are wrong.
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Germany casually entering W40k phase
Took the west few months to get around the drones with a Natter. Russia invented the turtle tank then failed miserably, then invented solder meat on motorcycles, then failed, now trying solders as many as possible of them inside a golf car made in China, also failed. 🤣🤣
I hope its preparred for drone warfare its been a game changer as well.
another game changer!!!
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We'll see how effective this thing will be
Every tank has 3 weakspots: gun, tracks, tower-connection, no matter how big a tank is.
During WW2 German engineers wanted to build a really huge tank already. Now it's done.
I just imagine how this tank can manage swamps or 3 m deep mud orf wet sand on a beach.
Adolf Hitler itself said that the German miltary was good weather miltary.
This tank may be superior on solid terrain. But how is the performance on difficult terrain?
All well and good, but (i) autoloaders are usually very fragile -- which is why most countries decided not to use them and (ii) tanks don't fight tanks directly like in WWII anymore, enemy armor is usually destroyed by airforce, whereas tanks mainly support the infantry.
Who else came here to actually see a KF51 Panther ....