Rural cellular internet NEW antenna tests!
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- I test panel antennas vs YAGI in this episode of our rural cellular internet series.
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I have finished my internet upgrade thanks to Andrew's series, and my results are awesome! I was a happy T-Mobile Home Internet customer before the upgrade, but this new set-up is worth making some changes. I'm now using a NetBuddy Cudy 4G LTE Router (LT18) with a T-Mobile SIM ($39.95/mo unlimited data, no throttling ever). The Waveform 4x4 MIMO External Panel Antenna greatly increased my speeds from 40-70 Mbps to 150-200 Mbps download (yes, I actually hit 204.37 this morning) and 1-5 Mbps upload to 20-50 Mbps upload. Thanks to Google Earth, I know that my cell tower is exactly 3335 meters (2.07 miles) from my antenna. Google Earth is also a handy tool for getting your antenna aimed directly at the tower. Thanks for posting this series. I don't think I would have done this without watching it.
That's great to hear and amazing speeds, especially for the cheap monthly price. I'm very happy to hear stories like these and see people get usable internet for affordable prices. Take care!
How did you get a rate that low? Do you have a phone with them.
@@cliffsalisbury7714 I canceled my T-Mobile Home Internet plan through T-Mobile and returned their router to them. It was $50 a month. The exact same service thru NetBuddy is $40 a month, but you are purchasing your own router from NetBuddy. The equipment costs will eventually pay for itself after a couple years. In my opinion, the ability to add an external antenna and the increase speeds were worth the equipment investment. I work in IT and now work remotely out of my home office, and the speed increase has made some noticeable improvements.
Cliff watch my series on routers, antennas and service. All links are in every video description. Point being buy your equipment and plans from 3rd parties and you get this awesome unlimited service AND expandable equipment.
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Thanks for the information. Correct me if I am wrong but you are only using 4g, not five. I am closer to a tower and have Mint Mobile phone which comes off a local tower with in a mile. I have internet over the phone line and only get 15 down and 2 up and pay almost $70.00 a month for the internet.
11:10 - (paraphrase) "Wires hanging off the side of my house, I don't care ya'll, I need some internet" - no doubt!! That's gold 💕
Get yourself a small outdoor network junction box to house all the connections. Mount it to the pole right under the antenna. It will clean it up and look a lot better. It will also keep the connections from corroding as bad.
Thanks for the update. Watched many of your videos about the Internet earlier this year. We ended up going with T-Mobile in July with their Arcadyan gateway. It was good by itself over what we had with satellite, increased speeds from 5Mbps to 15Mbps down and 1Mbps to 5Mbps up. Closest tower is about 10 miles away. A few weeks after getting it, decided to give the Waveform MIMO 4x4 a try. We had a lot of rainy weather so wasn't able to put it up outside, so I mounted it in the attic. Blew my socks off when we started getting 50Mbps down and 15Mbps up and continual signal, not dropping when a cloud passes by. After a month, moved it outside to an old satellite dish pole that was about 6ft high next to the house. The roof here isn't conducive to mounting an antenna bracket. So, I got 2 3-ft extenders and mounted the MIMO 4x4 about twelve feet off the ground. Ran the cable through the same path they used a decade ago for the old Hughes Net. Now I'm flabbergasted at the speeds. I'm pushing close to 150Mbps down and 50Mbps up. We've lived here for 8 years in the country and never had anything like this. We get unlimited data on a plan that is 1/10th of what we paid before just for the Exede satellite Internet. We also canceled the Dish and switched over to a Roku setup and have more things to watch/stream than we did before and that was another $125+ we don't spend each month. So 4 months into this, the antenna has been paid for in the savings of things we have canceled. Thank you for starting these videos!
That's great to hear and amazing speeds! Happy for you
My tmobile tower is 5 miles away, will use the 4x4 mimo...thanks
I learned about cellular Internet through Andrew's video series. We've struggled with slow DSL service in the mountains of Western North Carolina for years. Frankly, I was skeptical about cellular Internet because I thought I'd have heard about it before. Fortunately, I decided to try it. I bought a 4G-only cellular modem and the flat panel antenna mentioned in this video. Our dl speed increased from an average with DSL service of 3-4 Mbps to about 60 Mbps. Upload increased from 0.5 (½ Mbps) to about 6 Mbps. These speeds have been relatively consistent, too.
Happy to hear you are getting better results and reliable internet.
T-Mobile says I’m not even covered in my area but got the 4/5g cudy router and 4x4 mimo anyways. Router came in first and I had 1.4 mbs down. After installing the antenna I got 56.7 down and I don’t even think I have it pointed just right yet. BEST VID I EVER WATCHED.❤❤❤
Glad it's working for you
Andrew, of all the UA-cam videos I've watched on this Waveform antenna, yours was the most fast-paced and useful. You have an incredible ability to explain stuff, make it interesting, and show how to put it to work quickly. This really helps me out. Many thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it
WOW Andrew - you are doing good work sir for us rural folks! Thank you so much!
Glad you enjoyed it
Excellent review and great speeds. Two things are gonna take your speeds and WiFi to the next level.
Maybe see if you can get those antennas mounted 15/20ft up. I know you get some high winds so that might not be possible. Secondly, see if your router does IP passthrough. If so, basically offload those speeds to a mesh system like Orbi or TP Link Deco and you'll get those top speeds everywhere in your house.
Hello am from Algérie 😊 . it can connect with uniden u60 u65 u75 amplificateur ????
Interesting results with the different antennas. It’s true as the seasons change that the leaf growth affects the cell coverage. Back in the old analog days, cell providers would have to go adjust the output level of the transmitters in the spring to make up for the signal absorption by the leaves and vegetation that were in the path of the coverage area, and then go back in the fall when the leaves all fell off of the trees and back the power output down. The new digital systems and frequencies used are not as negatively affected by the leaves and vegetation, but having a clear line of site path from the tower to the antenna will provide the best reliable service.
We need to get you about 4 sections of Rohn 55G tower sections and build you a self supporting tower that you can attach all of the different antennas on at the same time to do more in-depth experiments with.
Interesting, now you've got me wondering what results will be like in a few months.
Hello - I'm in a rural foothills section of East TN. I've thought of setting up a tower to get the reach needed. I'm 2.5 miles away from nearest tower. Great suggestion, this Rohn55G tower is exactly what I'm looking for! I suppose I would need to rent a lift so I could properly erect the tower and mount the equipment, Yes? I've worked on lifts before in my IBEW days.
@@gwlane5509 The Rohn tower is fairly easy to erect. They make a special device called a Jin Pole that you use to raise each section into place. I built a 50 ft tower several years ago using the Rohn 25G and the longest part of the project was setting 1st section in a concrete base and waiting for it to harden. Did that one weekend and the next weekend me and a friend were able to erect the other 4 sections in a couple of hours and mount my antennas on the top.
You could use a lift or small crane as well. The highest you can get with your antennas will greatly improve your efficiency in your system.
Buy a 5g CPE. You lose a lot of gain with RF cable run
Hi from the middle of the ocean. Love the video. Great information for rural subscribers.
Hope you are enjoying your vacation
Hi, Andrew! Finally, I am caught up. The shorts are entertaining. My beagle Franklin is napping beside my chair. Great content. You are very thorough. You are helping lots of people with your videos. See you Sunday at 5:00.
Thank you for watching, see you then.
Do I have to buy all this 1000 dollar equipment setup..?
I have T-Mobile home internet in my house. Uses b66 LTE and n71 5G and delivers 350-400 download and 80-100 upload. No external antenna, just the stock device. Amazing!
It is amazing, you must be very near a tower.
@@TKCL It is very close, maybe 0.5 to 1 mile away, but there is almost nobody in my area. In the 3 towns that the tower reaches, the total population is around 1,000. Many people also use AT&T or Verizon due to them having better coverage in the area, giving the T-Mobile network almost 0 congestion.
I bought the same panel antenna, and replaced a similar yagi set up as you had. My results were them same as yours. Slightly less speed with the panel antenna.
As I watch your speed test, I begin to wonder if I will survive the move to the country... I currently have >800-900 mb DL. Everything is pretty instantaneous. Surely there is a way to get faster speeds from those antennas... smh. ugh. On the bright side, I've never seen 55mb UPLOAD speeds. That's pretty amazing that your Cell signal gives faster upload then my 1gb Cable from Xfinity. LOL
I usually get 70 up, it's wonderful for uploading videos.
Direktional Antennas are Better they have Reach over panel.
Hmmmmm maybe mount and test an antenna on top of the future flagpole??? Hope all is well there folks.
Doing great! Thanks
I want to boost the reception to my cell phone on verizon.
I want to use a 4X4 MIMO antenna on my roof, however I am stuck on the booster box / router to use.
Do routers require a sim card inside it to function? Or can I simply plug in my antennas to it to amplify the signal so my phone can pick up the signal better?
Boosters do not require a Sim. Plug and play.
I just got the t-mobile internet. Way better than Hughes net. I get 29 down and 28 up and 40 latency. Do you think i can get better speeds with net buddy system. I talk to t-mobile support about data caps and being throttled . They say there’s no data caps ,everything unlimited.if i keep t-mobile I’m planing on adding the mimo 4x4 panel.
Tmobile is releasing a unit that you can add antennas, that's what you need to be asking them about. A 4x4 antenna on their new hub would be awesome.
If I already have decent speed with my net buddy just sitting in a table, would adding a MIMO add anything? Or would I be wasting my money? And what about 2x2 vs 4x4? Any thoughts? TIA
Add antennas typically makes a dramatic improvement.
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Fyi,
LTE CAT20 Up to a maximum of,
4.14 Gbps down
660 Mbps up
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LTE Cat18 Up to a maximum of,
1.2 Gbps down
211 Mbps up
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LTE CAT16 Up to a maximum of,
1 Gbps down
100 Mbps up
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LTE CAT12 Up to a maximum of,
600 Mbps down
150 Mbps up
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Y’all forgive me, I’m not well informed on the correct terminology… Im not sure if I’m just bad at finding information or not putting in enough effort, but I’ve had a hard time understanding the plan options available to me.
I am in a very similar situation and I currently have a netgear nighthawk 6 that picks up my cell signal.
Is it possible for me to purchase one of these antennas and connect it to a 3rd party router? And can this router use the same SIM card that is currently in my net gear device?
I’m very confused and to what technology is compatible with the current provider and data plan that I have (AT&T) and the compatibility between devices. I can’t seem to figure out a good solution…
The problem is if your new router has software that can be configured to recognize the current Sim and IMEI number you have. Not all routers allow this, thus the reason it's better to buy a router and Sim combo from the same seller.
What if you beefed up your coax? Those look like RG59. Look it up it isn’t recommended.
We always used RG6 at minimum. Which is good for higher frequency and has better attenuation.
For cell boosting equipment (40,000 Sq ft buildings) we always installed RG-11.
I’d look into that… you may see a difference
It's rg240 stamped on the wire. Much thicker than anything I've seen on other cellular devices.
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Those are all 75 ohm impedance conductors LTE and WiFi CPE is all 50 ohms.
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LMR-240 50 Ohm coax cable is rated for a 5.8 GHz maximum operating frequency
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This is what I was searching for last days. The only thing I missed and still am looking for is where is the length limit of the cables to justify setup? With Ethernet cable with PoE and outdoor router all equipment can easily stay anywhere at home. While with external antenna all should be as close as possible to the roof. Any comments on this please. Cheers 🥂
I've been told 30ft or less. Length does play a role in signal loss, the shorter the better.
Ok so I don’t know if I am just an idiot or cellmapper doesn’t work for me. It seems to be covered with ads. I am trying to find a solution for my mother who lives in Rural Louisiana and will need a booster for both cell phone usage and wifi. She uses Verizon for cell service and they just changed directions on the antenna’s on their tower and now her cell phone reception is horrible as well. I live near Dallas so I can’t use my locator. Any suggestions? Thanks ,Nelson
Bare with me, recorded an episode today and showed how to properly use cellmapper.net. I'll release as soon as I can, a lot of editing and commitments this week.
If I were to buy this internet and antenna set up. Are there any more components I need to conect the router and the internet together? Booster or other equipment? Or do I just plug the antenna cables directly into the bunny ear ports on the router itself?
Nothing else needed, both plug together.
Been waiting on this video lol! I like this style antenna better and it seems to do pretty good. I'm really needing to get some security cameras up and running and of course some internet to watch the ball game lol. So I hope this will do the trick for me. Thanks!
I like this style too
Do these specific antennas only work with the listed three providers. Im from canada so just wondering.
No, they work with any cellular router that has external antenna ports.
Don’t know how your getting such a high upload speed. I can go near my nearest tower and on 5 G I’ll get a DL speed near 600 and upload will be around 32
Me either, but it's absolutely accurate. I can upload my social media content very fast.
I'm glad I found your channel. We'll be moving to the country in a few months, so this is crucial info for me! Thank you!!!
It's been a life saver for me.
Hello Andrew, I’ve enjoyed this video because I too have the same problems as you living in west central Florida. Would you be able to send me a check list of all the items I would need to have to be able to install a similar setup on my house? Bill
The antennas are listed in the video description and the link to Netbuddy for the routers. With this video being older, the router models have been upgraded. I'm not sure what they have in stock at the moment.
Thanks for the hard work. I can't wait to see if a Poynting XPOL-6 will help with the pretty bad signals I'm getting. Having scouted around the house with the Network Cell Info app I just happened to find an almost completely hidden BAND 1 LTE signal that gives -5 to -8 DB RSRQ and 23DB SNR! it is hidden just above the roof edge and disappears when going higher. Going higher shows another B41 signal that doesn't even come close. I've located the exact place where the signal is being sent from ( very nicely disguised on top of a shop ).
Now I'm just waiting for the antenna to arrive to do the experiment. Should be very interesting results.
$399.99 ...... come on now, these antennas are only priced that much because 5g is a new thing; they probably cost $20 to actually make or maybe $30 if they pay their employees well and not coming from Chyyna!!!!!
Where is the $99.99 antennas at that are respectable quality!?
“Amplified” does not apply to these antennas….. good video however…. These are just antennas not amplified… it’s gain not amplification….
Can these thing be sold to people outside the USA?? Is there software attached to these things and do I have to subscribe to any plan to get them to work
I'm not sure, you'll need to contact the company to see if they're compatible with your cellular carriers.
So as long i have cellular in my area it should work
Yes as long as you get the correct Sim card for that carrier.
Awesome educational video. Keep up making great content.
$400 for a panel antenna and kit?
Um, no thanks.
Ummm then don't buy it.
Two Proxicast cellular antennas will give you much better speeds. The T-Mobile Gateway that this one guy has is pushing 900+ Mbps download speeds and really high Upload.
What you are taking down is not called a Yagi. The antenna itself is called a Log-Periodic Dipole Array (LPDA) - Having the two antennas on the same mast rotated in opposing directions is called Cross-polarized.
We have reached out Michael and have a spot in line, and we went to our local Verizon store as they are our carrier and they told us since we are on the pre-paid plan we are not eligible for the data plan and it's still not available here in parts of East Texas. Thanks for all the great information, when we get a chance we try to catch up on your posts, keep up all the awesome work!
Don't go to the Verizon store, they've already given you bad information. It clearly states on the Verizon website that you get a DISCOUNT on prepaid data for already being a prepaid cellular user. Stick with 3rd party options for the plans, these workers for the national carriers seem to get zero training.
Hey Andrew, came across your channel and enjoy your content. I live in a heavily wooded area in the country in Indiana. I currently have a Chester Cheetah 5G 4x4 mimo cellular router connected to an Eero mesh system. I get a weak 5G signal with the supplied paddle antennas and a strong 4G LTE signal. My downloads vary greatly so I'm interested in getting the Waveform 4x4 Panel. I currently have their 2x2 Mimo Panel antenna in the attic. Do you think connecting this to the Cheetah router will help improve signal strength until I upgrade to the 4x4 Mimo antenna? Also, when mounting outside hou did you seal the opening through which the cables entered the house? Thanks Bud
With over 20 years experience as a paid professional who does work in a parallel cellular market, I'll tell you the same thing I tell all my field techs; speed tests are NOT the "final word" in a successful install! Consistency is significantly more important than some "highest speed" that you happened to randomly hit. The number of active users on a cell tower is completely random. The less the tower is used, the more speed is available to YOU. The more connections it has to juggle the slower the overall speed you will see. Test at 2am if you want to see what a system is actually capable of.
When it comes to antenna arrays, there are more reasons than just antenna gain to consider. My 2 cents, you want the highest gain(I've installed antennas that were over 4ft long) reasonable. High gain not only provides your wireless gear with the best signal level, it should also give you natural "selectivity". Think of the gain on antennas like the zoom on a camera, when you go from 3dbi(wide angle lens) to 17dbi (8x Zoom). Don't overlook the "Front to Back Ratio". Yagi antennas (panels typically less so) have a large "back lobe". In other words, it has eyes in the back of its head. The higher the front to back ratio, the less the lobe on the "back" of the antenna will introduce unwanted signal (noise).
Also, If you happen to be in the unlucky situation where 6 cell towers are all hitting you at once, you need to mount you antenna in a manner to "naturally" block the 5 unwanted towers. How? That's completely building dependent. I've seen antennas mounted in the bottom of metal garbage cans to shield it from everything except where it was pointed.
I think this is the problem I am having at my home... We are sort of sandwiched in between three towers which at first I assumed to be a good thing. I am using a Mofi 4500 router with verizon service and have two vertical Yagi antennas on the side of the house pointed right at the tower (Its within eyesight, about 1km away from the home) and the best speed I can get is 20mbps or so, around 7-10 on average. Any tips for me?
"Test at 2am if you want to see what a system is actually capable of. " EXACTLY! 2am, very respectable, but then come around 3pm-6pm the speeds drop so bad, I almost feel like I am on a dial-up connection with packet loss ruining my internet fairly sever.
Dumb question.....do I also need a moden if I get a router?
It's all built in one unit
So sort of off topic. My driveway is quite long. I have a gate at end of my driveway I would like to add a camera to. How can I extend wifi signal a good distance away. Probably 300-400ft?
This is exactly what I use, solar powered and uses a cell Sim. ua-cam.com/video/LSs8JM6w_7o/v-deo.html
Thank you so much for the speedy reply!!
I have the Cudy LT 18 and right now running a $35 directional one line down in the MAIN CELLULAR post on the router/modem. Would this setup require me to take off all 4 of the little black antennas on the back to get the better gain/service?
Yes that would be what you need to do on a 4x4 router to get the best signal possible.
hi friend looks like verizon is out of sim card on unlimited cellular plan
I'm sure they will be back in stock soon.
Thank you for another great video!! I have installed the original system that you posted. Thanks to you my wife and I are enjoying 20-50 mbps.
On the cat12 router, it has a dual sim slot. Do you know what that is for? Can you run 2 sims for double the speed?
That’s more likely for plan switching on limited data plans or good for the RV guys where there coverage changes depending on where they are.
You can only truly run dual sims if you install another modem on the inside. Otherwise you can switch between the sims in the routers internal settings.
Hi Andrew are you leaning toward a final setup yet that's works best for your area?
Sticking with what you see in this video. But I might be testing another router or two. Nothing finalized just yet.
I have an extra cell phone wonder if I can use the sims card from it in the router or do I need a different one
You'd have to contact Netbuddy to know for sure.
Pro tip. Move your router/access point downstairs closer to your end points if you can. The closer they are, the faster they'll be especially the way the insulation is in your house. 😉 It appears you can unscrew the small antennas and put an external antenna for access as well. Speed Wil increase. Great series BTW.
Here's my experience, downstairs much weaker wifi range. Upstairs pointed north and south with the roof, exceptional range. I'm talking 800 ft of coverage out in the yard. Somehow my roof is turning into a amplifier for the wifi signal. That range is critical for me.
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See above for excellent post describing this phenomenon
by Jonathan Greenwalt !
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Is this for better phone signal & internet signal
This is for internet.
Link & over view of antenna needs from a understanding DIY viewer.
THANKS
Hey man was wondering if u could help me try to set one up
Ask away, I will try to answer as best I can.
Hey. Do you know of anyone using this with Verizon SIM card? Thanks
I recently tested a different style router with Verizon and got a blazing fast 240 mbps down. Upload was lackluster.
Ok, what was the device? What was the upload?
I ordered my NetBuddy router today. 🙂 I'm getting good download speeds (55 to 70) with my T-Mobile 4G router currently, but my upload speeds aren't good (1.73 just now🤢). I think the new Cudy LT 18 4G LTE Router with it's 4 antennas will be a big improvement by itself, but I suspect an external mimo will be going up in the near future. I'm looking forward to seeing what the difference will be.
External is the game changer
How far away are you from your tower?
@@andrewedwards6774 3335 meters which is 2.07 miles.
YEY! There is a playlist for No Starlink internet 4G HYPE! hopefully you can reorder it to oldest to newest too
Great videos man. I have been watching your videos and many others because I am in a rural area and my internet is becoming a nightmare for me and my family. I am in Florida as well . I like the results you are getting and I would like to see if you heard of the Yeacomm 5G Modem WiFi-6 AX3600 Router.
I have not heard of that particular router, there are a lot of brands out there. From personal experience, find the plan you want first and then get the router that works with that plan.
@@TKCL I saw a couple of UA-camrs talking about it and they are achieving very optimal results. It is a very expensive unit though but could be very helpful to many people. I hope to see you try it one day.
@@planetimagine cudy 5G same wifi 6
Is the netbuddy router still working good for you? I have a Verizon cell plan and get pretty dang good service. I opted for the tmobile monthly plan and it's legit not working. Makes no sense.
Yes it is, I had a small spell of dropping connection with the tower. That's since disappeared and no further problems. Speeds are still just as fast as day one.
HYPE!
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Great catch 👌 👏 👍
How are your wires connected to the modem? Ports 1-4 ?
Wires are labeled 1-4 so I hooked them up that way to my ports.
@@TKCL starting from right to left if looking at at the back of the netbuddy router do 4,2,3,1 please test. I think it will improve your download speed for T-Mobile
Hey Kelley, I live in rural Michigan and I'm lucky to get 0.7 mps down and 0.4 mps up with a 1 second plus ping. You think I can get that into a decent range with the proper router/4x4 antennas? Or would it still be slow?
This does increase range, but it's all dependent on your tower and signal.
Can the panel be used for local channels and radio or is it for cellular only question mark
Cellular only
@@TKCL OK thanks
Hey brother I need some serious help with home WiFi..I live in the mountains of Georgia and I do have dsl here but it stucks big time….I have 1 bar of mobile service which sucks big time.. my question is which is the cheapest and best mobile WiFi I can purchase for my home thanks
That's an impossible question as there are more routers than I could ever test. I will tell you that in my limited experience a cheaper router usually is a slower router and has less capable wifi range too. The cuddy LT18 is probably as cheap as I would go for a cellular router. You first need to use a program like cellmapper.net to see what tower is covering your exact location. You will need to select AT&T, then Verizon and T mobile on the top left drop down menu for United States. You then zoom into your location and click on the dots (towers) to see what one is covering your area. Then go to Netbuddy and pick out a plan and router, here is there link netbuddy.co/?ref=12916
I havethe WaveForm 4x4 with the NetBuddy 5G router, which appears to be a bit different than yours (my 4G/5G connections are on the sides as opposed to the back). The issue I've run into is the order the cables are connected to the router has a SIGNIFICANT impact on speeds. Have you experienced this?
I've contacted NetBuddy about this and they have not been helpful, simply telling me to connect my external antenna to the 4G/5G connections.
You have the newer router it sounds like. I have experienced speed changes with cable swaps. The waveform cables are labeled 1,2,3,4 and on my router I started from left to right looking at the rear of the router connecting 1-4 cables. Play around with the combination and write down the best combo.
like the video. is looking for good service what counts and saving money. be bless
134 is just fine for gaming
Good to know
hey ,thanks for a great video - I just came across your channel today :( I've got some serious connection issues - there is nothing available where I live (out rural) I do have access to the net via my phone as there is tower about 6km away. What I do at the moment is hotspot via USB from my phone - give me an "amazing" 5.45mbps download and 0.75 upload (can you feel the pain?!) What router can you suggest where I can simply swap the sim out of my phone into the router and use this new antenna?
I have not personally tested routers that will allow the swap of a phone sim. Can't help you there.
Hi, how far away from 5G tower are you?
One tower is about a mile away, but not pointed towards me. The other is almost 7 miles away.
What service do u use
T mobile through Netbuddy.
Just received my panel from MIMO. This video timing couldn't have been more perfect.
Great to hear!
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Hi,
Try it at ground level first as you may not even need to elevate it depending on your situation many people just put it on the side of their house or even inside in an attic and get good results if the signal is strong enough?
@@jp34604 Many thanks. I'll try that!
Do I need the whole kit or just the antenna
You need the kit, that includes all wires and connections.
How far are you from the cell tower?
Depends on which tower. I can't remember the one in this episode but it's probably the tower that's 3 miles away through dense trees.
With this setup can you connect your cellphone to it so you can talk via wifi? I can connect my verizon cellphone to talk over my cable router when I'm at home.
Sure, it's wifi internet the same as any other router.
Thanks for a great video. I do have a question regarding the routers. Can I use a cellular router that I already own with the T-Mobile service through Netbuddy or do they require purchase of the router through them?
Thanks
You'll need to have their service with their router. There's software changes and compatability issues that you can run into with plans other than theirs.
@@TKCL Thank you so much for your rapid response.
My speeds are Ping 17, Download 568.11 MBPS, upload 32.60 MBPS
That's great, I'm assuming city connection or fiber? Not available here.
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Definitely coax based Cable TV results.
hi Andrew and Tiffany my download mbps 54.77 and up land mbps 18.70 in Australia
That's decent take care of most needs.
Great video series! I've become a regular.
Thank you for watching
You'll know if you get 5G. With T-Mobile 5G I consistently get 600+ Mbps down 50 Mbps up on my mobile phone.
Also, the speed test server has a big impact on the speeds you are seeing. Speeds can vary widely between servers. On my gigabit service, I'll see anywhere from 150 Mbps to 900+ Mbps depending on the server selected.
I'm not close enough to tower for 5g, but I'm still very happy with the service I'm getting over 4g LTE.
I am working on my upgrade Did you stay with the panel antenna or go back to the YAGI. I am in the tree situation and the directional towers are not pointed toward me but I am hoping I can get the signal. Really do enjoy your videos and I have learned a lot. Wish you hadn't put up that chicken house video the wife saw it and it is on her my todo list.
I stayed with the panel antenna, it just looks better. Get on that Coop! 🤣
Did you have to purchase extra cables for when you purchased the waveform 4x4 panel. I feel I I will need extra length to reach where i want to mount the panel antenna? If you read and reply to this I appreciate it in advance. I purchased the router through NetBuddy and its working great so far.
No I was able to setup for the 30ft cables. They do sell longer ones, but I've always been told that makes a difference on signal strength. Stay as short as possible.
just unpacked my new 5G router in T mobile from this video and getting 346.99down and 50.73 up. This is great thanks for the info.
Holy cow! That's amazing speeds, especially for the price! Awesome
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Which router/ antenna?
@@jp34604 Just the Router no external antennas. The speed has dropped down. I am Averaging ~150 tp 175 D and 30 to 50 up. I just ran 3 tests
Download Mbps 406.86 Upload Mbps 46.56
Download Mbps 400.39 Upload Mbps 46.30
Download Mbps 368.24 Upload Mbps 54.13
Net Buddy 5G Router $475.00
But I have a T-Mobile 5G tower under 2 mi away and I am on top of a hill.
Maybe I will get an external antenna later but for now it is good enough.
Thats awesome!
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" Good enough " ???
Fyi,
If your performance were wealth, you would be a multi billionaire!
The global average broadband internet speed is 32.13Mbps (megabits per second).
Iceland has the fastest broadband in the world with an average speed of 216.56Mbps.
As the old saying goes ...
location location location!
Congratulations enjoy!
Your 4x4 MIMOs are on the should have been swapped from all of the info I have seen online. Could have moved the setup on the right over to the left and been good to go. I may try out a flat panel on my next setup, definitely an easier install.
If you still have this panel antenna and the height poll from a previous video you should see if you get better signal from reflection from the height, I live in the country side in the UK and I tried a 3M poll from the roof of my house and got worse signal, about 50% more speed in my case from lower down around the wall and edge of the roof in my case, I didn't make it over the tree line i'd need a 10-15M poll from roof height to probably even reach the edge. Personally I think, in your case, where you have it currently, based on previous videos, the panel still has the best shot for signal where it is, but still curious to see though ;)
The company told me higher isn't necessarily the best and sometimes below the roof line (especially if metal) is best. I've played around and didn't see much change. I'm still getting great speeds where I'm at.
What if you got some wire adapters and hooked up the 4x4 directional with the panel antennas? Think you could get it over 100 Mbps? lol
No, you can only receive in and out 1 4x4 mimo antenna.
Anybody had any luck installing this antenna in the attic (indoor)?
Panel looks to me to be much more capable of coping with high winds. After a storm is when you really need signal.
Potentially, that's been on my mind.
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As per Channel Master ...
"Understanding Antenna Wind Load."
The wind load of an antenna is a combination of how much surface area the antenna has, it's drag coefficient (how easily the wind moves over it), and how much wind is pushing against the antenna. The generic formula for calculating wind load is F = A x P x Cd, where F is the wind load, A is the surface area of the antenna (usually given in square feet), P is the wind pressure (calculated from another formula) and Cd is the drag coefficient.
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I would "assume" that the word "flat" in the name -Flat Panel Antenna - would be a negative in this case versus the triangular package which is extremely stream lined??
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@@jp34604 My internet overall much better and stable in winds. I suspect due to the trees i shoot thru. Panels always got me worse speeds in wind.
Are you still going to do a video on how to find cell towers
Sure am, testing a couple of new routers and I'll include the tower search in that video.
@@TKCL OK thanks. I purchased the most expensive router they had and got tmobile. We just moved somewhere that there wasn't really any internet, but this is working👍. We are in a RV while we are building a house. Once our house is built I want to get an outdoor antenna
I get a half of a Mbps 😂😅
Yikes!
I recommended you to Jason from Saw the Land channel, he's having problems with rural internet:)))
No problem, I'll help him if I can.
Hey Andrew I get really crappy cell phone signal I’m not looking to upload or download just looking I guess would be a cell phone booster antenna so I get better cell phone service do any of these companies offer that
I've got a couple of videos for cell boosters. I suggest anything from Weboost or Hiboost.
Whats your average ping? How far from the nearest tower are you?
Latency is usually around 50 for the idle and varies between 100-150 on the upload and download. Tower in that video was about 3 miles through heavy woods. I have another one about a mile away, but it's not aimed towards me and the signal can be even worse at times.
@The Kelley's Country Life would you say the antenna is worth the $400?
It made a huge difference for me and was a must have. Your situation might be different.
Did your signal strength improve when switching from the yagis to the panel? I'm also in a rural area of Florida, noticed we test against the same Dedipath server. Always on the lookout for ways to improve signal strength and reliability!
It's actually dropped a little. The panel antenna sure looks better.
I see you have spray foam insulation. Did you do any video's on the spray foam ? I am from Wisconsin and have bought a house down in your neck of the woods (Marianna, FL) I have received several quotes on SF my home but some contractors recommend Open cell while other's recommend closed cell for my cathedral ceiling. Would be nice to hear your opinion being your in the same area. Thanks
Open cell is by far the most popular here. I strongly suggest that you watch the videos I list below, especially the hvac one. It's critical you set your HVAC system up for any type of spray foam. ua-cam.com/video/4bZpzd7lFis/v-deo.html
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So the antenna cables hook up to the 4g/5g terminals or the 2ghz5ghz
4g 5g terminals only
Which antenna would you recommend for my application? I am approximately 7 miles straight line from the nearest cell tower with hills and tons of vegetation obstruction.
Probably the panel antenna due to all the obstructions
Test the speed just between the router and the antenna (with both antennas sep.).Would like to see the result . I am sure you are loosing signal between the router and laptop too due to the walls too , hard wire your router to the laptop , that will be your true speed .
I have ran hardwired before, practically no speed improvement over 5g wifi.
What about data caps
Website claims unlimited, I've been running this plan for almost a year and I've experienced no caps.