I want to say a great big thank you to The Shogunate for doing this series on the three great ninja manuals. He has done an outstanding job. Thank you so much for watching and I hope people now have a better idea of the ninja. Good luck to everyone in their research.
Antonio Cummings amigo I seen some of your books in barnes and noble lmfao your overly dramatic photos with your head chopped off🤣 they did not have the bansenshukai and shoniki. Yes the book of samurai it looks like a bible lol.
This definitely shows a difference between the lifestyle and mindset of a Samurai of the Sengoku Jidai and one from edo period, as well as the romanticism that occurred at the end of the edo period with Samurai martial arts. I never knew how much of a difference there was between the zen style martial arts practiced edo period dojos, and ones actually used in the waring states era.
To be honest, watching these videos on the playlist and others from Mr. Cummings, I wasn't bummed out by the reality of the shinobi, this actually increased my interest and fascination with them. Great work on the videos, by the way. :-)
Really informative stuff, I love learning the history of individuals, and Natori Masazuni’s bio was quite interesting. Of course, great video as always too!
Oh wow! Shoninki seems fascinating! I bet this is what probably also inspired a lot of the modern Ninja mysticism, with all the chakra/chi thingies in scroll 2. Now, I have bad attention span and these books will PROBABLY bore me to death but I am still curious and want to read these translations one day. I am after all a child of the '80s who grew with the Ninja pop culture. Ninjas and Knight Rider. :D
Shoninki is short and easy to finish quickly. So out of the three try that one. But go to my website as it shows in video and I have made an easy to read list www.Natori.co.uk
I feel like 8:00 and 10:12 are casting shade forward through the centuries at the many so-called "ninja" schools that cropped up starting in the 1970s.
I want to make a fighting game and I’m learning the history of great warriors from different country’s so I get my historical facts right. This has helped a lot
My friend I love your work. Ive emersed myself in Japanese art and so on. But you made this sometimes difficult history very interesting. I heard you critique a show recently. I think you should tell the story (again) with say some animation? Your storytelling skills are what matter. to me anyway. I think you're animated version would by far outperform any junk film by Netflix. Thank you sincerely for your work.
I feel it should be pointed out that Mr. Cummins school of Natori Ryu and the original historical Natori Ryu are not nessesarily the same. The original Natori Ryu was shut down during the Meiji era. Mr. Cummins recreated the school, with the blessing of the Natori Family using the manuals he researched, but he has no formal weapons training. Take that as you will.
He is doing a Japanese SCA, a group that researches medieval times and tries to recreate their martial arts as well as other aspects of that life. Many have never trained under a person with the old skills but rather try to re-create them from old books. @@sectphiro607
I'm always of the mind that things exist in some way if they're mentioned,with "Ninja" the idea of the black clad assassin DID exist but not exactly as we think of it,one thing to keep in mind is the main folks who'd use these people,the Samurai,might not be so open about the assassin side of it since that wasn't highly thought of... And there's a possibility some of the black clad killer side of it was a part of rather unpopular groups like say the Ikko Ikki and those who won over them may have buried that side of things. In the end I think there's some truth to all of it,even the black clad man roaming into enemy territory with the intent of raising as much hell as they could and taking out selected people was in some way real even if it only happened a handful of times. And there's the possibility the term "Shinobi" was true for all of it and there were some assassins in black,some simple thieves,and Samurai commandos who got labeled as such and over time the lines have become so blurred that we can't tell the truth so well.
I like how the uploader and Antony are on the side of caution, you need that when studying history. Better to have left a few true things out thinking they were too embellished than to have something made up and outlandish make it into the history books. But that being said, feudal Japan is literally an eastern mirror of medieval Europe/Britain. There's no way all that bloodshed happened without a few assassinations popping off. It's just part of war and conflict. And if it probably did happen, with these videos and all this research shedding light on how ninjas/shinobi were really just special forces of feudal Japanese militaries, you can bet that ninjas/shinobis played a part of them. They were simply the special operations task forces of their time. It may not have been all they did, but it definitely would have been something they were prepared to do.
Some say the modern outfit comes from stage hands who were not to be seen while setting up the stage for the next act. Clearly, the real Ninjas dressed like everyone else, just as CIA and undercover police do today.
This has been a fantastic video series. Thank you for the work you’ve put into it. You efforts, as well as Cummins’ are greatly appreciated. So it seems rather like these historical documents gradually reestablish shinobi in a way that, increasingly with each video reviewing these documents, resembles the contemporary romanticized image which the first video in this series tried to dispel. Of course it was more specifically the notions of them being assassins and wearing “ninja suits,” that the first video in the series designated explicitly to be mostly pop-culture fancy without any historical basis. The dubious martial art of ninjitsu as well. However, that first video carries a fairly strong underlying implication that the shinobi where merely samurai spy’s involved in nothing more exceptional than the sort of commonplace espionage that has been an element to war and politics around the world throughout most of recorded history. I think this downplays somewhat the unique nature inherent in the notion of a “*samurai* spy” though, while, at least initially, overlooking the notable breadth and depths of their tak range of specialized training and tools. Then in the following videos, historical documents are presented casting them, in some cases, in the broader role of special forces with broad spectrum utility, and then gradually painting quite a remarkable picture which is anything but a mere spy, involved only in ordinary espionage. The documents in the previous two videos, as well as this one, established the shinobi to be samurai warriors with specialist training in stealth, camouflage, infiltration, sabotage, and deception. In that description, the former *samurai* part may easily be overshadowed by the later list of specialist skills, but it is far from insignificant that these *samurai* were warriors who trained to fight and kill with deadly weapons, as the *foundation* for all the additional specialization. At this point, it seems fairly clear, that if assassination where called for, it would surely be the shinobi who where called upon. Would it not? Who else would be more suited? I’m curious how assassination was viewed culturally during the times and in the places in question. Was it seen as cowardly, dishonorable, underhanded? *Deceptive*? While “all [may] be fair, in love and war,” some things are yet traditionally frowned heavily upon. At the very least, if I send killers to stab your key players in the back from the shadows, and you learn of it, then going forward, you are justified in the unrestrained use of the same tactics. Generally, the ideal assassination is one which escapes identification as assassination, and/or makes it appear as though some other party where responsible. Stealth, sabotage, infiltration, and deception, are the skills that generally come into play for effective assassination. Meanwhile, often no one takes responsibility, or it is falsely attributed through deception. Today, modern special forces may be involved in wet work, or black ops, which are generally minimally documented, if at all, and not openly spoken of in detail by those actually involved in such matters. They are *never* involved in assassination though. Unless something has gone terribly wrong. In other regions, cultures, and military traditions around the world, how common is it for anyone to clearly document their assassination operations, or have plain designations for their assassins as such? It seems the idea that the shinobi, may have covertly been assassins, really is no great stretch. Even without clear historical evidence of it, they plainly would have been the obvious and ideal choice for clandestine assassinations in the event that such tactics might be called for. The documentation reviewed in this video in particular, to my mind, goes further still in painting a fantastical picture of mythical super-samurai warriors, with not merely a broad range of highly specialized skills and secret knowledge, but even secret magical and psionic abilities. Of course this is quite a dramatic and fanciful image, and yet, it does seem to be the image painted by these documents… The supposed assassin martial art ninjitsu, may be laughable. The irony of its fraudulently deceptive nature in its contemporary context, oddly fitting, coincidentally. Ninjutsu, however, while exceedingly dubious at best, is wholly superfluous here anyway, given that samurai indeed did train to kill with historically well established martial arts. So ultimately, while I agree that the contemporary pop-culture ninja is far from a perfect historical representation, I would suggest that pop-culture seldom is that, regarding any subject… Sometimes the ninja, as represented in movies, comics, games, and contemporary novels, wanders much further from the truth than it does at other times. At the same time, some contemporary fiction actually skirts the truth much more closely. I think it is also worth noting here that very unrealistic and highly fanciful fiction, doesn’t always need to stray far from the the historical records, given that superstition, psychic abilities, and magical spells, are frequently featured in the historical records…
At 18:40 the other term I have heard is "to move the umbrella" which basically means to peer behind the opponents defensive shield and see their intent.
So just I can understand completely and correctly The ninja were real but not as isolated clans with lineages, rather low class samurai and ashigaru who practiced the stealth tactics and teaching (that we learned from the 3 manuals) for the purpose of espionage, spying and assassination are people who what we will call shinobi Is that right? Am I missing something?
They weren't necessarily bound by rank or class. The best way to understand them is to compare them to modern day special forces/intelligent agencies like the Navy Seals and the CIA. It's that simple. They were just another kind of soldier, spy, or officer employed by their government.
Sorry for blowing up the comment box. I gotta read both "the book of samurai" before reading "true path of the ninja." ? I also have "modern ninja warfare." By Antony cummins. How does that book exactly fit in the series? Thanks for taking the time to put these videos together. They're great.
Dude you know the CIA has access to the fucking internet, and a billion dollar budget from the most powerful military/nation the planet has ever seen, right? They know all of this and then some. I'm not even sucking America's dick, I'm just being honest.
anyone who thinks ninjas were not special let me ask you this, how often did agents in medieval european nations disguise themselves and get into castles to carry out missions of intel and sabotage on a regular basis? or in any other countries for that matter? now ofc they had military recon and spies but nothing as specialised, long running and well trained as the ninjas. i consider myself fairly well versed in history and i cant think of anything even remotely similar to the ninja until ww2 with the invention of professional special forces. the only old equivalent i can think of were the hashashin in the middle east but they seem to have focused solely on assassinations. but they must have used a lot of the same techniques as the ninja. im guessing china also had something similar that i am not aware of.
Alot of shinobi sensai did that on purpose. not to be known or seen.that is part of being shinobinomono they wrote what they wrote and that's it alot was passed also word to mouth from teacher to student father to son ect...
Really good" translations" from someone who doesn't know even know how to speak the language yet feels compelled to claim authorship from other people's work anyway.
@@AntonyCummins I've no doubt they can speak Japanese. But you don't and yet you take credit from a work of translation which is advertised to be "authoritative". Isn't that a bit dishonest? So how exactly do you approach your primary sources? Does editing and marketing their work qualify you as the primary author?
@@AntonyCummins Thanks. I'm flattered that you do even if I'm a relative nobody in the Internet. And while I disagree with your scholastic methods, I admire your energy and enthusiasm.
@@jtilton5 I guess here, aren’t they just Samurai with a special duty and like all Japanese devoted to the perfection of their skills? Like Japanese in the field of robotics...
@@jtilton5 Prior to Pearl Harbour, no-one taught the Japanese shallow water torpedo bombing. But they figured it out, with only the British success in Italy. What comes to the same. You can learn lots from old dusty manuscripts. Lets not forget that these manuals where basis for establishing the Navy seals and in my homeland Belgium our Paracommando’s get specialist training for black opps units, based on what they learned from those manuscripts. It strikes me as Typically American and British Huberus. The Shogunate is a good channel, I trust in the info he provided.
@@philipdemaeyer1665 The problem is that in this case, The Shogunate is using sources from a person who claims to have translated these works himself but actually doesn't speak a word of Japanese. If your method of working on your primary sources is dubious, then no amount of interpretation will be valid.
I want to say a great big thank you to The Shogunate for doing this series on the three great ninja manuals. He has done an outstanding job. Thank you so much for watching and I hope people now have a better idea of the ninja. Good luck to everyone in their research.
These are great videos. Thank you for your research and pursuit of truth.
Antonio Cummings amigo I seen some of your books in barnes and noble lmfao your overly dramatic photos with your head chopped off🤣 they did not have the bansenshukai and shoniki. Yes the book of samurai it looks like a bible lol.
Antony will you please add this to your shinobi no jutsu beginners playlist? Thank you!
This still tells us that real history is still amazing than fantasy in various ways
Still amazing than fantasy? That didn't make any sense. I think you may be trying to say a common phrase that goes "Truth is stranger than fiction."
@@clinton867 yes thank you
Yes agreed
All of these ninja manuals really blown my mind. To think that medieval people was less clever than us is quite a terrible fallacy.
Not just medieval, ancient and primal people in general were actually real geniuses. Roman aqueducts are still in use today!
Remember that the ancient greeks figured out the circumference of the earth by using two sticks and a lot of math.
These books can make you a modern day ninja if you understand just what and how they say .
"Spells that can make people argue or become friends."
So they were essentially some of the first professionally trained trolls? XD
This definitely shows a difference between the lifestyle and mindset of a Samurai of the Sengoku Jidai and one from edo period, as well as the romanticism that occurred at the end of the edo period with Samurai martial arts. I never knew how much of a difference there was between the zen style martial arts practiced edo period dojos, and ones actually used in the waring states era.
To be honest, watching these videos on the playlist and others from Mr. Cummings, I wasn't bummed out by the reality of the shinobi, this actually increased my interest and fascination with them. Great work on the videos, by the way. :-)
Your uploads always fascinate me. You're teaching me so much, and I appreciate that. Arigato Sensei
that was phenomenal.....
man i just finished the last vid on the playlist too
good timing
Really informative stuff, I love learning the history of individuals, and Natori Masazuni’s bio was quite interesting. Of course, great video as always too!
Oh wow! Shoninki seems fascinating! I bet this is what probably also inspired a lot of the modern Ninja mysticism, with all the chakra/chi thingies in scroll 2. Now, I have bad attention span and these books will PROBABLY bore me to death but I am still curious and want to read these translations one day. I am after all a child of the '80s who grew with the Ninja pop culture. Ninjas and Knight Rider. :D
Shoninki is short and easy to finish quickly. So out of the three try that one. But go to my website as it shows in video and I have made an easy to read list www.Natori.co.uk
I feel like 8:00 and 10:12 are casting shade forward through the centuries at the many so-called "ninja" schools that cropped up starting in the 1970s.
I want to make a fighting game and I’m learning the history of great warriors from different country’s so I get my historical facts right. This has helped a lot
What a great series of informative & interesting videos. It is evident the amount of work you and your team has put in. Well done ❤
Oh you put in your video the new intro
My friend I love your work. Ive emersed myself in Japanese art and so on. But you made this sometimes difficult history very interesting. I heard you critique a show recently. I think you should tell the story (again) with say some animation? Your storytelling skills are what matter. to me anyway. I think you're animated version would by far outperform any junk film by Netflix. Thank you sincerely for your work.
I feel it should be pointed out that Mr. Cummins school of Natori Ryu and the original historical Natori Ryu are not nessesarily the same. The original Natori Ryu was shut down during the Meiji era. Mr. Cummins recreated the school, with the blessing of the Natori Family using the manuals he researched, but he has no formal weapons training.
Take that as you will.
So, huh?
Martial arts is a buyer beware world, a little research can be very enlightening. 🤔
He is doing a Japanese SCA, a group that researches medieval times and tries to recreate their martial arts as well as other aspects of that life. Many have never trained under a person with the old skills but rather try to re-create them from old books. @@sectphiro607
Bro your narration is sooo much better than the battle of japan the samurai in netflix
I'm always of the mind that things exist in some way if they're mentioned,with "Ninja" the idea of the black clad assassin DID exist but not exactly as we think of it,one thing to keep in mind is the main folks who'd use these people,the Samurai,might not be so open about the assassin side of it since that wasn't highly thought of...
And there's a possibility some of the black clad killer side of it was a part of rather unpopular groups like say the Ikko Ikki and those who won over them may have buried that side of things.
In the end I think there's some truth to all of it,even the black clad man roaming into enemy territory with the intent of raising as much hell as they could and taking out selected people was in some way real even if it only happened a handful of times.
And there's the possibility the term "Shinobi" was true for all of it and there were some assassins in black,some simple thieves,and Samurai commandos who got labeled as such and over time the lines have become so blurred that we can't tell the truth so well.
I like how the uploader and Antony are on the side of caution, you need that when studying history. Better to have left a few true things out thinking they were too embellished than to have something made up and outlandish make it into the history books. But that being said, feudal Japan is literally an eastern mirror of medieval Europe/Britain. There's no way all that bloodshed happened without a few assassinations popping off. It's just part of war and conflict. And if it probably did happen, with these videos and all this research shedding light on how ninjas/shinobi were really just special forces of feudal Japanese militaries, you can bet that ninjas/shinobis played a part of them. They were simply the special operations task forces of their time. It may not have been all they did, but it definitely would have been something they were prepared to do.
Some say the modern outfit comes from stage hands who were not to be seen while setting up the stage for the next act. Clearly, the real Ninjas dressed like everyone else, just as CIA and undercover police do today.
Congratulations
this was a great video
Your channel amazing man THX!
This has been a fantastic video series. Thank you for the work you’ve put into it. You efforts, as well as Cummins’ are greatly appreciated.
So it seems rather like these historical documents gradually reestablish shinobi in a way that, increasingly with each video reviewing these documents, resembles the contemporary romanticized image which the first video in this series tried to dispel.
Of course it was more specifically the notions of them being assassins and wearing “ninja suits,” that the first video in the series designated explicitly to be mostly pop-culture fancy without any historical basis. The dubious martial art of ninjitsu as well.
However, that first video carries a fairly strong underlying implication that the shinobi where merely samurai spy’s involved in nothing more exceptional than the sort of commonplace espionage that has been an element to war and politics around the world throughout most of recorded history. I think this downplays somewhat the unique nature inherent in the notion of a “*samurai* spy” though, while, at least initially, overlooking the notable breadth and depths of their tak range of specialized training and tools.
Then in the following videos, historical documents are presented casting them, in some cases, in the broader role of special forces with broad spectrum utility, and then gradually painting quite a remarkable picture which is anything but a mere spy, involved only in ordinary espionage.
The documents in the previous two videos, as well as this one, established the shinobi to be samurai warriors with specialist training in stealth, camouflage, infiltration, sabotage, and deception. In that description, the former *samurai* part may easily be overshadowed by the later list of specialist skills, but it is far from insignificant that these *samurai* were warriors who trained to fight and kill with deadly weapons, as the *foundation* for all the additional specialization.
At this point, it seems fairly clear, that if assassination where called for, it would surely be the shinobi who where called upon. Would it not? Who else would be more suited?
I’m curious how assassination was viewed culturally during the times and in the places in question. Was it seen as cowardly, dishonorable, underhanded? *Deceptive*? While “all [may] be fair, in love and war,” some things are yet traditionally frowned heavily upon. At the very least, if I send killers to stab your key players in the back from the shadows, and you learn of it, then going forward, you are justified in the unrestrained use of the same tactics. Generally, the ideal assassination is one which escapes identification as assassination, and/or makes it appear as though some other party where responsible.
Stealth, sabotage, infiltration, and deception, are the skills that generally come into play for effective assassination. Meanwhile, often no one takes responsibility, or it is falsely attributed through deception.
Today, modern special forces may be involved in wet work, or black ops, which are generally minimally documented, if at all, and not openly spoken of in detail by those actually involved in such matters. They are *never* involved in assassination though. Unless something has gone terribly wrong.
In other regions, cultures, and military traditions around the world, how common is it for anyone to clearly document their assassination operations, or have plain designations for their assassins as such?
It seems the idea that the shinobi, may have covertly been assassins, really is no great stretch. Even without clear historical evidence of it, they plainly would have been the obvious and ideal choice for clandestine assassinations in the event that such tactics might be called for.
The documentation reviewed in this video in particular, to my mind, goes further still in painting a fantastical picture of mythical super-samurai warriors, with not merely a broad range of highly specialized skills and secret knowledge, but even secret magical and psionic abilities. Of course this is quite a dramatic and fanciful image, and yet, it does seem to be the image painted by these documents…
The supposed assassin martial art ninjitsu, may be laughable. The irony of its fraudulently deceptive nature in its contemporary context, oddly fitting, coincidentally. Ninjutsu, however, while exceedingly dubious at best, is wholly superfluous here anyway, given that samurai indeed did train to kill with historically well established martial arts.
So ultimately, while I agree that the contemporary pop-culture ninja is far from a perfect historical representation, I would suggest that pop-culture seldom is that, regarding any subject… Sometimes the ninja, as represented in movies, comics, games, and contemporary novels, wanders much further from the truth than it does at other times. At the same time, some contemporary fiction actually skirts the truth much more closely. I think it is also worth noting here that very unrealistic and highly fanciful fiction, doesn’t always need to stray far from the the historical records, given that superstition, psychic abilities, and magical spells, are frequently featured in the historical records…
Very interesting information. Everything recycles because the core of humanity will be most of the time
Dope
At 18:40 the other term I have heard is "to move the umbrella" which basically means to peer behind the opponents defensive shield and see their intent.
9:55 That painting reminds me of the ghillie suit level from Call of Duty 4... "I was just a 'leftenant' back then, doing some wetwork."
Wow
So much history nerds in the comments, i love it! 🤝 👍
I heard that palm reading is still taught in some modern intelligence agencies in Asia.
So just I can understand completely and correctly
The ninja were real but not as isolated clans with lineages, rather low class samurai and ashigaru who practiced the stealth tactics and teaching (that we learned from the 3 manuals) for the purpose of espionage, spying and assassination are people who what we will call shinobi
Is that right? Am I missing something?
They weren't necessarily bound by rank or class. The best way to understand them is to compare them to modern day special forces/intelligent agencies like the Navy Seals and the CIA. It's that simple. They were just another kind of soldier, spy, or officer employed by their government.
Yeah I didn't mean that they had to be low class samurai and ashigaru, but most of them where like that
Thank you
Which book do you feel teaches the most about espionage?
Sorry for blowing up the comment box. I gotta read both "the book of samurai" before reading "true path of the ninja." ? I also have "modern ninja warfare." By Antony cummins. How does that book exactly fit in the series? Thanks for taking the time to put these videos together. They're great.
Does this 3 books combined yo be 1?
Eliza Jones
Once Im a Ninija where can I work at?
You don't apply, we will contact you. lol
Real ancient ninja put the cia to shame lol, very insightful video.
Dude you know the CIA has access to the fucking internet, and a billion dollar budget from the most powerful military/nation the planet has ever seen, right? They know all of this and then some. I'm not even sucking America's dick, I'm just being honest.
anyone who thinks ninjas were not special let me ask you this, how often did agents in medieval european nations disguise themselves and get into castles to carry out missions of intel and sabotage on a regular basis? or in any other countries for that matter? now ofc they had military recon and spies but nothing as specialised, long running and well trained as the ninjas. i consider myself fairly well versed in history and i cant think of anything even remotely similar to the ninja until ww2 with the invention of professional special forces. the only old equivalent i can think of were the hashashin in the middle east but they seem to have focused solely on assassinations. but they must have used a lot of the same techniques as the ninja. im guessing china also had something similar that i am not aware of.
Alot of shinobi sensai did that on purpose. not to be known or seen.that is part of being shinobinomono they wrote what they wrote and that's it alot was passed also word to mouth from teacher to student father to son ect...
Rule no1. Align your chakras before a fight.
Rule no.2 dont fight the one shinobi that is prophesied to end the world.
Rule no3. Make time for fun.
Frist
If it is gateless, then its not a gate:) LOL
i notice the manuals never mention any black suits or face masks...
It is a modern invention. Spies of any era dressed just like the locals.
The spells are probably devil possession. You need a bible for that:)
Really good" translations" from someone who doesn't know even know how to speak the language yet feels compelled to claim authorship from other people's work anyway.
Yoshie really does know how to speak Japanese. So does the Japanese monk and dr. It’s strange you think they don’t.
I will remember you on my channel. In life it’s best to be positive and find what is good for people.
@@AntonyCummins I've no doubt they can speak Japanese. But you don't and yet you take credit from a work of translation which is advertised to be "authoritative". Isn't that a bit dishonest? So how exactly do you approach your primary sources? Does editing and marketing their work qualify you as the primary author?
@@AntonyCummins Thanks. I'm flattered that you do even if I'm a relative nobody in the Internet. And while I disagree with your scholastic methods, I admire your energy and enthusiasm.
Sounds like Bungikan Ninjutsu is a scam
True, though so is the "Rediscovered" school of Natori Ryu that Anthony Cummins propagates.
@@jtilton5 I guess here, aren’t they just Samurai with a special duty and like all Japanese devoted to the perfection of their skills? Like Japanese in the field of robotics...
@@philipdemaeyer1665 would you study robotics from someone without an engineering degree, but just translated older papers on engineering?
@@jtilton5 Prior to Pearl Harbour, no-one taught the Japanese shallow water torpedo bombing. But they figured it out, with only the British success in Italy. What comes to the same. You can learn lots from old dusty manuscripts. Lets not forget that these manuals where basis for establishing the Navy seals and in my homeland Belgium our Paracommando’s get specialist training for black opps units, based on what they learned from those manuscripts. It strikes me as Typically American and British Huberus. The Shogunate is a good channel, I trust in the info he provided.
@@philipdemaeyer1665 The problem is that in this case, The Shogunate is using sources from a person who claims to have translated these works himself but actually doesn't speak a word of Japanese. If your method of working on your primary sources is dubious, then no amount of interpretation will be valid.
I thought the Shoninki was from Yasutake Fujibayashi?!