Crazy how different a Great Lake steelheader's bag is compared to coastal! Looks more like my trout bag. Would love to get inland one day and see what it's like out there. Thanks for the video!
some areas are very trout like for sure. Where I live in the GL we have large rivers where I bet you'd be more at home with two handed rods and skagit heads being the norm.
You seem like such a down to Earth, great guy. I've learned a lot from watching your videos/tutorials. I caught my first Big SH a few months ago on the fly and it was one of the best moments in my life. Such a great feeling! Thanks for all the awesome information and helpful tips. I hope only great things for you moving forward.
Completely agree with budget gear being effective. I believe I payed around $100 for a 9’ 3 wt rod reel and line combo just to have a super light rod for panfish and it’s just been working well for me. Don’t get much trout fishing done out here, but it’s worked great for panfish and probably have gotten around 1,000 or so bluegill and crappie on it since I got it. I’m sure a more expensive rod would work better, but I simply don’t have the money for a $250 rod and a $60 reel and $60 flyline, and I think a lot of people are in the same position as me. Never stopped me from getting out there and catching fish though.
Always great videos. I'd really love it if you'd do one specifically about fishing/swinging soft hackles. For steelhead and for trout.....Leaders.... All that jazz.
@@Madriveroutfitters that's great news.... I've been shopping around for books about fishing soft hackles... Also I always feel like my leader game is weak sauce. You do a good job of explaining leaders....I keep a leader journal, and try to make them ahead of time....because my memory doesn't get any better every year on my birthday. I have anticipated your "end of the line" book for some time now. I hope we get to see that soon too 😉
as far as cheap rods go, I have rods from 2 all the way to 10 wt and have never paid more than $100 for a rod. Cast before you buy if possible, if not then scour the internet for reviews or ask around. A lot of times you can get some dang good rods for dang good prices!
Wish you would have done this a month ago. Clearly California on the American River is well ahead of Ohio. But this info should help for the remainder of our steelhead season. Great content and detail on what works in Ohio and some that should work anywhere. Ps love your videos and have purchased product from your store online it's been spot on.
Thanks for watching and thanks for the support. He actually DID this back in the nineties. See the series "Steelheading Made Simple" that he mentions here. Same stuff.....20 years later.
I live in the PNW on the west side of the cascades and I’ve been steelheading for over a year now on spey rods and I’ve caught a grand total of zero. I’m going to try high sticking for them. I catch a ton of trout using that method so it stands to reason that I should do this method for PNW steelhead as well despite all the cool kids swinging.
@@Madriveroutfitters right, I was meaning that 4x in Cortland has an 8.5 lb breaking strength. Both at .007 but to get 8.5 lb in SA we would have to go up to 3x at .008 diameter. My point being I get greater performance out of cortland in strength and in a smaller diameter.
Question on your Leader section. The leader seems relatively close to the rio euro nymphing leader. Starts a 0x-2x for 11 feet then a trout tippet ring. Would this work as a decent substitute for a steelhead leader? Thanks for all your great videos. You guys have taught me so much!
Thanks for watching. Please send your questions directly to Brian at the shop and he’ll be happy to help. You can email him or give him a call. He doesn’t come around here much but he’s in the shop 6 days a week!
Thanks for watching. Please send any and all questions directly to Brian or the folks at the shop. You can e-mail them or call them. They do not monitor comments here but of course work in the shop every day! Thanks.
Hey Brian, love the videos. I have a versa tip attached to the end of my #7 weight fly line, would you use the same formula as a sink tip. Thanks Wayne.
Thanks for the vid. Fishing for Lake Ontario lake run trout, I often have to use 3x and even 4x due to low clear water. How you you think this formula would work if my tippet section to the ring was that small? Any adjustments recommended?
I’m confused about the leader being composed of all the different types of line. What’s the difference between that and having a leader that is all just one piece that’s tapered?
Basically you can buy them (knotless) or tie them (knotted with different pieces). Feel free to call or e-mail the folks at the shop if any other questions or to discuss further.
Hi Brian, I was looking to pick up a Redington Path combo on sale at a local store. The only length/wt available is the 9ft. 8wt. I've been researching and most people say it's important for the length rod to be 9.5 to 10 ft. for more comfortable casting, and easier time mending the line. Is the length important here?
As far as Nymphing from a boat goes, yes it does, but the topography and terrain of our rivers are just different, and the gear adjusts accordingly, most of us also swing at this point because if there’s no fish to catch anyways I may as well have fun casting a Spey rod all day.
Ok, now that I’ve finished the video, I have no excuses not to start nymphing for steelhead. Well... you forgot to suggest waders and shoes 😂 Just kidding, thank you for sharing your expertise, it’s steelhead time!
Ohio ? Grand-Chargin? I live between both, 15 mins either way,, going on 40 seasons Both rivers have changed over the yrs, but still BIG FISH. In them, spinning mostly, but going to fly now, Echo? Is what I’m looking at killer drag on them, friends have so I know
When you say high stick you mean euro nymphing technich? Cause seems to me that for euronymphing technic most people use 2 and 3 weight fly rod . Can you clarify and thanks for the information.
No, it does not necessarily mean euro. High-sticking usually refers to an indicator technique. Feel free to contact Brain at the shop for further clarification. Thanks.
Don't get me wrong, I like a nice $1000 rod but I'll stick to my $150 -$300 rods. Not nearly as nerve racking to carry around hiking either 😂 plus I can have a lot more. I'd rather have 4 or 5 nice $200 rods than 1 $1000 rod.
Crazy watching fly fishing shops in the United States..in Norway we have to settle for the most part with “sporting good stores “ with maybe half a shelf dedicated to fly fishing and they’re still trying to sell the neoprene waders that’s been hanging on the wall for the last 15 year’s
@@korstog Where do you live man? I know one pure fly fishing shop in Oslo. There is also another who is fly fishing focused, but sells other tackle as a side note.
we need A LOT more of these
Stay tuned!
Yeah for each fish andvwY of fish n
Crazy how different a Great Lake steelheader's bag is compared to coastal! Looks more like my trout bag. Would love to get inland one day and see what it's like out there. Thanks for the video!
Very true. Much different.
some areas are very trout like for sure. Where I live in the GL we have large rivers where I bet you'd be more at home with two handed rods and skagit heads being the norm.
Might depend on the river. Some PNW small coastal rivers aren’t that much different.
You seem like such a down to Earth, great guy. I've learned a lot from watching your videos/tutorials. I caught my first Big SH a few months ago on the fly and it was one of the best moments in my life. Such a great feeling! Thanks for all the awesome information and helpful tips. I hope only great things for you moving forward.
Thanks for being here and thanks for watching. We appreciate it.
And love seeing you get worked up talking about setups and steelhead fishing in general …only thing that excites me in life is fishing
Thanks for watching!
Awesome. So much info. You sold a rod getting the Path from you guys tomorrow. Thanks so much.
Thanks for watching and thanks for the support.
I appreciate all the work you do to help people learn fly fishing. You have a real high quality channel here. Gratitude from Northern California!
Thanks so much. We appreciate your words. As long as folks keep supporting the shop, we’ll keep making videos!!!!
Completely agree with budget gear being effective. I believe I payed around $100 for a 9’ 3 wt rod reel and line combo just to have a super light rod for panfish and it’s just been working well for me. Don’t get much trout fishing done out here, but it’s worked great for panfish and probably have gotten around 1,000 or so bluegill and crappie on it since I got it. I’m sure a more expensive rod would work better, but I simply don’t have the money for a $250 rod and a $60 reel and $60 flyline, and I think a lot of people are in the same position as me. Never stopped me from getting out there and catching fish though.
Thanks for watching.
Always great videos. I'd really love it if you'd do one specifically about fishing/swinging soft hackles. For steelhead and for trout.....Leaders.... All that jazz.
It's coming!!!! Stay tuned.
@@Madriveroutfitters that's great news.... I've been shopping around for books about fishing soft hackles...
Also I always feel like my leader game is weak sauce. You do a good job of explaining leaders....I keep a leader journal, and try to make them ahead of time....because my memory doesn't get any better every year on my birthday. I have anticipated your "end of the line" book for some time now. I hope we get to see that soon too 😉
Yeah new zealand net! Stoked we get a cheeky mention on such a great channel!
Thanks for watching.
I’m just getting into fly fishing and where I am in the North Stealhead fishing is big so this video really help
Thanks for watching and happy to help.
Great videos. As much as I want to get into fly fishing. There is just so much going on it basically keeps most people from even attempting
Thanks for watching.
Just bought a bunch of leader wheels of Maxima from you guys! Thanks for the videos as always, looking forward to beginning to tie my own leaders
Thanks for being here and thanks for the support! Much appreciated.
LOVE the leader formulas!! SO IMPORTANT!!!
Thanks for watching!
as far as cheap rods go, I have rods from 2 all the way to 10 wt and have never paid more than $100 for a rod. Cast before you buy if possible, if not then scour the internet for reviews or ask around. A lot of times you can get some dang good rods for dang good prices!
Or just call or e-mail Mad River Outfitters. They won't steer you wrong. Thanks.
Like how you go into detail of everything on how to do everything
Thanks for watching.
Another great one Brian. Keep up the good work. ATB
Thanks for being here.
Super excited for those prebuilt butt sections to release, definitely something I'd like to have in my steelhead arsenal when they're available
We'll let you know!
Wish you would have done this a month ago. Clearly California on the American River is well ahead of Ohio. But this info should help for the remainder of our steelhead season. Great content and detail on what works in Ohio and some that should work anywhere. Ps love your videos and have purchased product from your store online it's been spot on.
Thanks for watching and thanks for the support. He actually DID this back in the nineties. See the series "Steelheading Made Simple" that he mentions here. Same stuff.....20 years later.
I live in the PNW on the west side of the cascades and I’ve been steelheading for over a year now on spey rods and I’ve caught a grand total of zero. I’m going to try high sticking for them. I catch a ton of trout using that method so it stands to reason that I should do this method for PNW steelhead as well despite all the cool kids swinging.
Thanks for watching and let us know how it goes!
Nah bud, keep it at, because the day you sink into one everything else in fly fishing seems silly, tugs the drug.
Fourth
Brian you did it again with another excellent video!
Thanks so much for watching.
All my love languages were hit with this video.. lol Love it! you guys are the best
Thanks for watching.
Can’t wait for more info about building your own leaders.
Stay tuned.
Great information video Brian 🎣🎣👍
Thanks for watching.
I am sold, looking forward to some steelhead fishing
Thanks for watching and thanks for the support.
I love this channel !!!!
Thanks for watching.
Courtland fluorocarbon is Awesome!!! Smaller diameter and really impressive strength especially when compared to SA!
It's the best on the market!
But smaller diameter than what? 2x is always 2x. That refers to the diameter. Stronger test but not smaller diameter.
@@Madriveroutfitters right, I was meaning that 4x in Cortland has an 8.5 lb breaking strength. Both at .007 but to get 8.5 lb in SA we would have to go up to 3x at .008 diameter. My point being I get greater performance out of cortland in strength and in a smaller diameter.
Question on your Leader section. The leader seems relatively close to the rio euro nymphing leader. Starts a 0x-2x for 11 feet then a trout tippet ring. Would this work as a decent substitute for a steelhead leader? Thanks for all your great videos. You guys have taught me so much!
Thanks for watching. Please send your questions directly to Brian at the shop and he’ll be happy to help. You can email him or give him a call. He doesn’t come around here much but he’s in the shop 6 days a week!
Well done 👍
How heavy would you go as far as split shots to indicator fish deeper holes with an egg and nymph combination?
Thanks for watching. Please send any and all questions directly to Brian or the folks at the shop. You can e-mail them or call them. They do not monitor comments here but of course work in the shop every day! Thanks.
Can you do a Great Lakes steelhead video on spey and switch rod fishing?
Send that request over to Brian at the shop. E-mail is fine....admin@madriveroutfitters.com. Thanks.
newbie questions. 1) Do you attach the indicator to the Amnesia section? 2) How many inches above the fly do you put the split shot?
You’ll need to contact Brian at the shop with questions like that. Send him an email or give him a call. Thanks!
Hey Brian, love the videos. I have a versa tip attached to the end of my #7 weight fly line, would you use the same formula as a sink tip. Thanks Wayne.
Please send your questions over to Brian at the shop via e-mail, or give him a call. He'll be happy to help. Thanks
Please make a video on skagit setup! I can't figure out my rod 8 ft 8/9 still feels hard to cast properly.
Until then, feel free to call the shop with questions or for assistance.
It’s gonna be tough to make any rod that short cast skagit heads well, they are miserable on rods with multiple feet more leverage than that.
Thank you for the fantastic video!!!!
Appreciate you watching.
I have noodles rods four of them from Pittsburgh Pennsylvania just got my Erie County combination license
Thanks for watching.
Thanks for the vid. Fishing for Lake Ontario lake run trout, I often have to use 3x and even 4x due to low clear water. How you you think this formula would work if my tippet section to the ring was that small? Any adjustments recommended?
Should be fine but you should triple check with Brian at the shop to be sure. Email him or call him there and he'll be happy to discuss.
I’m confused about the leader being composed of all the different types of line. What’s the difference between that and having a leader that is all just one piece that’s tapered?
Basically you can buy them (knotless) or tie them (knotted with different pieces). Feel free to call or e-mail the folks at the shop if any other questions or to discuss further.
When is the next Q&A?
Should be soon! Stay tuned.
Hi Brian, I was looking to pick up a Redington Path combo on sale at a local store. The only length/wt available is the 9ft. 8wt. I've been researching and most people say it's important for the length rod to be 9.5 to 10 ft. for more comfortable casting, and easier time mending the line. Is the length important here?
Thanks for checking with us but please contact Brian at the shop directly and he'll be happy to help. Call or e-mail. Thanks.
Great video! Does this apply to pacific northwest steelhead as well?
Thanks for watching. Guessing probably not but feel free to contact Brian directly through the shop. He’ll be happy to help/answer.
As far as Nymphing from a boat goes, yes it does, but the topography and terrain of our rivers are just different, and the gear adjusts accordingly, most of us also swing at this point because if there’s no fish to catch anyways I may as well have fun casting a Spey rod all day.
Your thoughts of using a drop shot set up for steel head
Please send your questions over to Brian at the shop via e-mail or give him a call. He'll be happy to help. Thanks.
Ok, now that I’ve finished the video, I have no excuses not to start nymphing for steelhead. Well... you forgot to suggest waders and shoes 😂
Just kidding, thank you for sharing your expertise, it’s steelhead time!
He forgot to talk about his underpants too! Thanks for watching.
Ohio ? Grand-Chargin? I live between both, 15 mins either way,, going on 40 seasons
Both rivers have changed over the yrs, but still BIG FISH. In them, spinning mostly, but going to fly now, Echo? Is what I’m looking at killer drag on them, friends have so I know
Thanks for watching. Feel free to call the shop if you have any questions. They will be happy to help!
Tomorrow on my lunch break,Thanks!
How does your streamer leader build compare to what you would use for a smallmouth leader?
He said not at all different. Contact him at the shop though for further clarification.
When you say high stick you mean euro nymphing technich? Cause seems to me that for euronymphing technic most people use 2 and 3 weight fly rod . Can you clarify and thanks for the information.
No, it does not necessarily mean euro. High-sticking usually refers to an indicator technique. Feel free to contact Brain at the shop for further clarification. Thanks.
@@Madriveroutfitters thank you for the reply, I understand better.
You could call it the hi-vis steelhead but section.
We'll let you know. Stay tuned.
Are you using the 8f line on the 7wt, or do pair it with the 7f?
Please contact the shop directly with your questions and they will be happy to help. E-mail or give them a call. Thanks.
Great video! Thank you!
Thanks for watching.
I don't believe I heard where your indicator and weight are placed on the first leader formula.
Please send your questions over to Brian at the shop and he’ll be happy to help. Thanks.
Do a video on playing a fish
Check the Q & A Videos. He has done that! Thanks.
Great video
Thanks for being here.
So on 10.6 rod how long the leader should be ?
9-10? Feel free to call or e-mail the shop with any questions as they are always happy to help. Thanks.
Is the echo ion you use a 6/7 or a 7/8
He uses the 7/8 on the 10’ rods. Feel free to call or email him at the shop if any further questions. Thanks.
Don't get me wrong, I like a nice $1000 rod but I'll stick to my $150 -$300 rods. Not nearly as nerve racking to carry around hiking either 😂 plus I can have a lot more. I'd rather have 4 or 5 nice $200 rods than 1 $1000 rod.
Thanks for watching and for sharing.
Norway all The way🇳🇴🇳🇴🇳🇴
Thanks for watching.
Crazy watching fly fishing shops in the United States..in Norway we have to settle for the most part with “sporting good stores “ with maybe half a shelf dedicated to fly fishing and they’re still trying to sell the neoprene waders that’s been hanging on the wall for the last 15 year’s
@@korstog Where do you live man? I know one pure fly fishing shop in Oslo. There is also another who is fly fishing focused, but sells other tackle as a side note.
@@KarlMySuitcase yes one in Oslo..that’s about 3 hours drive..and they’re usually out of stock of the most used items
@@korstog Which one is that? There is also one at Hadeland if you live to the north.
good afternoon senior happy sunday greetings from indonesia aru islands Maluku peovinsi indonesian border australia
Thanks for being here.
@@Madriveroutfitters thank you again friend and thank you for the information and knowledge for us
Heeding the call.
As you should!!!
2:47 lol
Thanks for watching.
Third
Need to pick up the pace next time? Thanks for being here though.
First
Good work!!!
Also not rich, wanna catch fish 👍
Good news is that this stuff is pretty cheap.
They flat out work!
@@Madriveroutfitters they work for muddy water carp too
Cheap rods are the way to go … too many split shots flying around to fish anything too expensive
For some yes. Others not so much.