Flip Pallot on How To Attach Your Leader to Your Fly Line

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  • Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
  • In this video, Brian Flechsig of Mad River Outfitters and Flip Pallot discuss why it's worthwhile to cut the loop of the end of your fly line and how to attach your leader to the loopless fly line.
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  • @Madriveroutfitters
    @Madriveroutfitters  3 роки тому +17

    If you haven't seen it, check out the second part to this video here: ua-cam.com/video/l0tDLthd_hg/v-deo.html

    • @michaelegnatz1535
      @michaelegnatz1535 Рік тому +2

      Keep UP The G😊😊D Work !

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  Рік тому +1

      @@michaelegnatz1535 Thanks! As long as folks keep supporting the shop, we’ll keep making videos!!!

    • @chubbycarter3776
      @chubbycarter3776 28 днів тому +2

      @Madriveroutfitters thanks so much! It absolutely did, y'all are so helpful. I really appreciate your willingness to help. You certainly stand out amongst the others. Keep up the awesome work!

  • @thomascochran3637
    @thomascochran3637 3 роки тому +48

    I have spent the afternoon cutting the loops off of my lines and tying the snell knot. Thank you to the fly fishing Godfather

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  3 роки тому +3

      Thanks so much for watching.

    • @Twilk94
      @Twilk94 Рік тому +1

      Bad idea

    • @TheBlunted247
      @TheBlunted247 10 місяців тому

      @@Twilk94elaborate please?

    • @Twilk94
      @Twilk94 9 місяців тому +3

      @@TheBlunted247 so when you cut the loop, which I have you can’t change your butt section because of the nail knot as opposed to a loop to loop. I tie tapered leaders so depending on the fly I’m casting or the fish I’m fishing for I might want to change it. Then you have to cut the nail knot eat back at the taper in your fly line and re tie a nail knot. If you don’t like to to tie your own leaders it makes it even more of pain in the ass. They are exaggerating the impact the loop to loop connection has.

    • @Twilk94
      @Twilk94 9 місяців тому

      When you do change butt section with the knack knot you have to eat away at your taper.

  • @tacoma1309
    @tacoma1309 Рік тому

    Greetings from Puget Sound:
    So, after struggling all afternoon w/ various knots that were leaving me more and more frustrated, i found your tutorial, and then with Flip. After just a few minutes in, i cut the loop, successfully tied the knot w/ the right end sticking out, and enjoyed the rest of your conversation and insights and knowledge--Thank you very kindly! Randy c

  • @stuartforsyth4279
    @stuartforsyth4279 3 роки тому +1

    Mr Pallot is a piscatorial colossus for sure 😁

  • @richardjones2129
    @richardjones2129 Рік тому

    Tks 4 the informative video. When I started fly fishing I feel the same as flip on the extra weight in the line. Affirmation by Flip. Tks again. God Bless n fish on!

  • @vandemonian5412
    @vandemonian5412 3 роки тому +43

    That was a seriously generous download of experience and knowledge from Flip. Its taken me over a decade to come to the same conclusions.
    Brilliant video and a great UA-cam channel here. Thanks Brian and crew!

  • @glenncharles6622
    @glenncharles6622 Рік тому

    All of my loops are gone. Went fishing today, didn’t catch anything, but dang, the line and leader just worked so much better…

  • @marklamude2355
    @marklamude2355 3 роки тому

    Thanks Brian you peacock bearded legend.... and Flip Super Legend.

  • @alexc9187
    @alexc9187 3 роки тому +1

    I have had dozens of fly lines but never figured out that hi-viz lines are floating lines. You learn something every day. BTW I loved the leaders course I took from Brian a number of years back. So helpful to understand the physics of this... Is Flip coming back to Columbus anytime soon?

  • @KillJoyXx1
    @KillJoyXx1 3 роки тому +1

    the airboat intensifying 😂😂😂😂

  • @VictorPetrini99
    @VictorPetrini99 2 роки тому

    Briliant!

  • @rogersherman3619
    @rogersherman3619 2 роки тому

    fantastic. thanks

  • @williambrown7833
    @williambrown7833 3 роки тому

    Love the knot but I need a slower, closer view. I think Flip used the term 'tag-end' too often. Could you tie it again in closeup? Great tip on identifying the fly line with a Sharpie, Thank you,

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  3 роки тому

      Here you go and thanks for watching:
      ua-cam.com/video/_I0u9URCbNM/v-deo.html

  • @sambone96
    @sambone96 2 роки тому

    how do you manage retying butt sections onto your fly line without chewing up the taper though

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  2 роки тому

      Watch part 2 and pretty sure that he explains that you don’t. Feel free to call or e-mail him directly through the shop if not or any further questions.

  • @marklawyer5221
    @marklawyer5221 2 роки тому

    Question if I am using a 9ft 8 wt using maximun dark brown leader line what would the butt be and so on? Thanks

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  2 роки тому

      Please send your questions directly to the shop via e-mail or give them a call. They will be happy to help. Thanks.

  • @DragonGP
    @DragonGP 3 роки тому

    I'd really like to know the leader formula that Flip recommends. Forgive me if he mentioned it, but I didn't hear it on the video.

  • @rodd33
    @rodd33 3 роки тому

    I have an idea. Why don’t they make and sell floating and sinking lines that have pre built tapered leaders in them to resolve the issue of having weight/stiffness at the knot there?

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  3 роки тому

      Because different types of leaders require dramatically different butt sections. Good thinking though.

  • @richardperry9478
    @richardperry9478 Рік тому

    Long long ago in another time before Covid, there was a prophecy made about the coming of a savior book on leaders. Is that still a thing?

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  Рік тому

      Apparently the book is still in progress? Stay tuned and we'll for sure let you know when he gets it out. Thanks for being here.

  • @cep14254
    @cep14254 3 роки тому

    What weight is the leader you tied on that 6 weight and how long?

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  3 роки тому

      They should answer that in the second video:
      ua-cam.com/video/l0tDLthd_hg/v-deo.html
      If not, feel free to call or e-mail Brian at the shop and he'll be happy to help. Thanks.

  • @JS-hu7pv
    @JS-hu7pv 2 роки тому

    About to cut the loops off of all my fly lines….

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  2 роки тому

      Give a shout to the shop if you have any questions or they can help!

    • @JS-hu7pv
      @JS-hu7pv 2 роки тому +1

      @@Madriveroutfitters - will do. Went out this morning. Pouring rain with a cold front moving in. I wimped out after about three hours and three fish.

  • @christianherrington1456
    @christianherrington1456 4 місяці тому

    He says evil like mermaid Man

  • @brutalcelt9139
    @brutalcelt9139 3 роки тому +18

    I've been flyfishing for over 37 yrs and when Flip talks, I still learn something. Great stuff from the great one. I pass this knowledge on to anyone willing to listen. We owe it to the future of the craft. Tight lines my friends.

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  3 роки тому +2

      Thanks so much for watching and you are so right. We must keep it alive!!!

    • @ChrisWadeOfficial
      @ChrisWadeOfficial Рік тому +1

      This is one of the very reasons I fell in love with fly fishing and have devoted my life to it for the last few years;
      I am now a new fly fishing guide in jasper national park where exploring the rivers and streams.
      I tend to be a fast learner and get bored easy with many hobbies when I get to the point of stagnant learning….then lose interest soon after.
      Yet fly fishing never ceases to amaze me. Just SO many things to learn and refine every time I go.
      The community of amazing people around fly fishing is so supportive and helpful in passing on knowledge that I know I will never get tired of it.
      It gives me so much joy seeing people like yourself with more years fishing than I have living STILL in love with this sport and still learning. Shows this is easily a lifelong hobby/ pastime or in my case….career.
      Proves to me that I’ve chosen the right path. I can’t wait to learn as much as I can from the pros to pass on the torch to the generations following me!

  • @philthybolt
    @philthybolt Рік тому +2

    I may be crazy... But didnt i count 11 turns? Lol

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  Рік тому

      Not sure on that. Feel free to contact Brian through the shop though if any questions.

  • @mikehughesoutdoors2774
    @mikehughesoutdoors2774 Рік тому +8

    This is the method I learned from my Dad when I was 10-12 years old. He snelled everything. I'm 68 years old now and taught my grandson how to do this 2 weeks ago. Flip is truly a living legend!

  • @kgm4368
    @kgm4368 Рік тому +4

    It’s difficult for old timer’s to embrace new technology. I’ve fly fished for over 55 years and since the welded loop was introduced years ago by Rio, Orvis, SA and others and leader manufacturers started producing their tapered leaders with perfection loops, I’ve never had one issue that would make me go back to the old technology. And I’m a traditionalist in that I still fish my split cane rods as well as my carbon graphite rods. But that’s what makes FF so wonderful. Do whatever makes you comfortable. If you think you can catch more fish doing it the hard way then that’s what you need to do.

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  Рік тому

      Thanks for watching and sharing.

    • @hunterbemboom318
      @hunterbemboom318 Місяць тому

      Could agree more! Obviously Mr. Pallot is a legend, but…. I’ve fished welded loops for a long time, never had a single problem. Streamers, dries, nymphs, from 2wt to 10wt, no issue and for the people who say it has to do with casting… well I’m no expert in physics but there is NO WAY it makes that “BIG” of a difference.

  • @user-po7iv4ni3o
    @user-po7iv4ni3o 2 місяці тому +1

    My god, now that I was able to visualize that method of tying a nail snell, I see that I've been making things way too hard for myself by tying the way everyone else shows.

  • @Pjskater360
    @Pjskater360 3 роки тому +3

    Hey Brain, i have seen everyone explain until the connection of the leader line, what happens after that? How do i choose the correct leader for my specific line wt i am using, also how does that effect my end cast.

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  3 роки тому +6

      We do have a follow-up video coming....stay tuned. Feel free to call Brian at the shop also if you have specific needs or questions. He's always happy to help. Thanks.

  • @mikejessmax
    @mikejessmax 3 роки тому +1

    Don't understand the sharpie method to id the fly line. Long line and short line =6? What does the long line represent? How do you id 2, 3 and 4 weights?

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  3 роки тому +2

      The long line represents increments of 5 and short is one. 2wt would be two short lines, 3wt 3 short lines, 4wt 4 short lines, 5wt a long line.....etc. Feel free to call the shop if they can help further.

    • @mikejessmax
      @mikejessmax 3 роки тому +1

      @@Madriveroutfitters Makes sense now

  • @paulbugeja5425
    @paulbugeja5425 3 роки тому +3

    Excellent Flip video! I loved hearing the logic of the snell knot leader connection and the practicality of a long butt section, but would like to see the complete leader recipe for trout leader the long butt section if it applies. Before watching this video I added a butt section (8" long) to fly line with nail knot and a loop at the other end for quick loop to loop to leader. I will stop doing that.

  • @troutresource9343
    @troutresource9343 3 роки тому +11

    Thanks, Great explanation, when I first learnt to fly cast I was taught to cut the loops off the end but never really understood why. This explanation made it crystal clear.

  • @caryverhalen
    @caryverhalen 3 роки тому +3

    Brian is blessed to be friends with Flip Pallot, he is truly a living legend. This topic is old news.Brian has a tutorial on how to do this, which I learned from him, as well as how to whip a loop, thanks Brian.
    So I have a boatload of leaders tied up already using a micro swivel and a fly clip. Of course I have a Perfection loop on the butt section to attach to the fly line. A waste of time? I can't feel any resistance from the weight the loop creates when I cast. I'm certain Flip is right, however, not enough for me to change.

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks for watching. Always good to hear it from the master though.....the one who taught it to Brian.

    • @caryverhalen
      @caryverhalen 3 роки тому +1

      @@JoelSzymczyk Flip claims a whipped loop is much stronger than the manufacturer's welded loop. He always cuts it off and nail knots directly to the fly line now. The claim is the line shoots faster with less resistance and a tighter loop.
      But now, he's evolved into an "Anti loopper!".
      A bodybuilder wants to build his bicep, he'll do a curling exercise. Now there are a hundred different designer exercises to build your biceps, but really net the same results. Perhaps, fly fisherman need this same stimulate to be relative today? If anything, it makes for great conversation .

  • @xeviuus
    @xeviuus 3 роки тому +2

    Brian. I like your videos. But I have to tell ya, Flip explained the Snell knot better than you did on other videos. 😆 Now I get it. As we speak I'm cutting off all the EVIL loops on all my gear. BTW, I am a huge fan of your educational videos and your shop! The best resource of all fly fishing for sure! Keep high-quality content coming!

  • @Dookii2
    @Dookii2 3 роки тому +3

    Thank you once again for an awsome video! Started fly fishing 2 years ago. And i’ve learned so much important things from your videos, i can’t thank you gentlemen’s enough! 🙏

  • @burls76
    @burls76 3 роки тому +10

    this was a great video! I've used a needle knot of late but this looks much easier...not to mention removing the loop to loop makes the line go thru the guides much easier when landing fish. looking forward to part 2. thanks again!

  • @thomasjosephson4428
    @thomasjosephson4428 3 місяці тому +1

    I started watching thinking "Come on I don't need to cut off my loop most of my casts are pretty short a loop won't make a difference" then that explanation of the cast and I go "oh yeah that happens all the time!" guess some loops are about to be cut!

  • @matthewbazerkomccusker74
    @matthewbazerkomccusker74 2 роки тому

    The walker Key Chronicles!!! I loved that show . Love Florida , love the Bahamas . Dive , fish . I found at least a 200 yr old rum bottle , complete intact . Where is that bottle ?!?!! 🤔

  • @TezukuriLure
    @TezukuriLure 3 роки тому +2

    All affirmation👍
    Can’t make a Best presentations with maker made loop😄

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  3 роки тому +2

      As Flip says, they are pretty evil.

    • @TezukuriLure
      @TezukuriLure 3 роки тому

      @@Madriveroutfitters nice naming😆 If set with poly leaders that I think effective 😄 It can make a smooth presentation 👍

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  3 роки тому +1

      @@TezukuriLure agreed. We have some videos coming on that exact subject. Thanks.

  • @paulc8109
    @paulc8109 2 місяці тому

    This video by Mad River/Flip Pallot was suggested to me by a fan from a local fly shop in Denver. I am still a little concerned about what this knot should look like when properly tied. 5wt F-WF to a factory tapered 7.5' - 12'(any brand). I keep getting a kink, not a straight knot! Any suggestions.

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  2 місяці тому

      Feel free to contact Brian directly through the shop. He'll be happy to help!

  • @southernexposure123
    @southernexposure123 2 роки тому

    My floating fly line sinks a foot or so in just aa few minutes. I've cleaned and dressed it after it had time to dry and it still sinks. Is there a cure for that? Thanks

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  2 роки тому

      Please send your questions directly over to the shop via e-mail or give them a call and they will be happy to help. Thanks.

  • @rubenmireles8113
    @rubenmireles8113 5 місяців тому

    Appreciate the video, it is very informative. I also don't like those pesky "evil" loops. Many years ago an eastern sierra guide recommended the old Eagle Claw tapered Leader Links LL1 to attach leaders to fly lines...it's never failed & is a clean connection.

  • @markbrookbanks
    @markbrookbanks 8 місяців тому

    Hi guys from the UK. Amazing tutorial - thanks! Quick question. If you need to replace the leader i assume you just repeat the process? Each time losing a small amount of fly line? :)

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  8 місяців тому

      Thanks for watching. If you watch the part 2 of this, they do cover that topic. Otherwise, feel free to send Brian an e-mail at the shop and he'll be happy to answer any questions. He doesn't monitor comments here but does monitor e-mails and phones at the shop every day!

  • @RiverForged
    @RiverForged 3 місяці тому

    Does the increased length of butt section translate well to delicate dry fly presentation or is this specific to salt/warmwater stuff and streamer fishing? I cant imagine running 8+ feet of butt section fishing dries to wary trout on a spring creek. Definitely curious on how versatile this would be. Lots of great knowledge here to consider, thank you!

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  3 місяці тому +1

      Thanks for watching. Best to contact Brian directly at the shop and discuss? You can e-mail him or call him. Pretty sure they are not talking about a dry fly leader...but best to check with him to be sure.

  • @MrMurf2you
    @MrMurf2you 3 роки тому +2

    I've been using nail knots for 40 years and learned something new today-the Smell Knot. Love it! I noticed it's a nail knot without the tube. The need for the tube is replaced by overlapping the 2 ends of the butt section over the fly line and then pulling the butt section through the loop created. Ingenious! Somebody had a lot of time sitting around to think this one up. Keep up the great work!

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  3 роки тому +5

      Thanks for watching. Just to be clear...it's a Snell Knot. (not a smell knot)

    • @MrMurf2you
      @MrMurf2you 3 роки тому +1

      @@Madriveroutfitters thought I read through your threads and saw it spelled Smell. My bad. So it's snot a smell, but a snell knot. This knot has been around a while. Thanks for setting me straight!

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  3 роки тому +1

      @@MrMurf2you 👍

  • @LOUDFARTNOISES
    @LOUDFARTNOISES 10 місяців тому

    Hand me down fly rod. Never came with a loop. Half blood was always the connection. Thought it just made more sense always. Always cut off the loops. That's some kiddo stuff

  • @chubbycarter3776
    @chubbycarter3776 29 днів тому

    Sooo. If I tie a perfection loop, does it transfer the same energy as the welded loop? Or do I snell every leader from this point forward? Sorry in advance!

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  28 днів тому +1

      @@chubbycarter3776 Be sure to watch part 2 of this video and Brian answers most of your questions. If not, feel free to call him or email him. He’s always happy to help. Thanks!!

  • @byronc7284
    @byronc7284 2 роки тому

    I don't get it. I do get the concept of cutting the loop. What i don't get is, by changing out your flies, you're eventually going up get to the butt of the leader. I change flies about 15 times or more every time i go fishing. How am I suppose to keep the same leader(specially my 4ft leaders for streamers). I'll be changing leaders often and cutting into the fly line every time. Would it help to tie a tippet ring? Am i missing something?

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  2 роки тому

      Watch the second episode of this and then give Brian a call at the shop if you have any further questions. He’ll be happy to help.

  • @andrewlordon8734
    @andrewlordon8734 Місяць тому

    So you change flies cut tippet and eventually you have to change butt and are cutting back into mainline. Economical?

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  Місяць тому

      Please watch the second episode. If you do this, you are not changing the butt. No cutting back into the mainline. Brian actually has dozens of videos where he discusses this exact subject.

  • @davidcudlip6587
    @davidcudlip6587 Місяць тому

    Great idea on marking the line weight of your fly lines with a Sharpie marker. I have a few reels in my case that the line stickers came off the reel and I really don't remember what the line weights are now.

  • @ks-eq3yx
    @ks-eq3yx Рік тому

    The old chap that taught(or let me learn -as he he put it) me fluff chuckin , only used loop ed leaders for reservoir boat fishing because it was quicker to change Thier characteristics.

  • @brentekstrom383
    @brentekstrom383 Рік тому +1

    You both are amazing leaders in fly fishing! No pun intended. Thank you for all you do to help us fly fishermen to understand the intricacies of the ART of fly fishing.

  • @chancebruderer579
    @chancebruderer579 Рік тому

    I was in a pinch and needed a Snell tool ASAP so I cut a portion off of my girlfriend's cooking whisk 😂 she still hasn't noticed and it makes a damn good tool!!

  • @jackstraw207
    @jackstraw207 3 роки тому +1

    isn't the anatomy of the knot the same or at least very similar to a nail or needle knot? This just looks like a different way to tie it.

  • @barrywatson2898
    @barrywatson2898 Рік тому

    Would be cool if you only changed leader once a season like the guides here in the video, but what if you want to change leader every time you fish, there’s an inch missing every time you head to the lake

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  Рік тому

      Correct. If you need to change leaders, you do not want to use this method.

  • @philstevens6934
    @philstevens6934 2 роки тому

    OK. A snell knot to tie on leader. Flip never says how to handle replacing the leader. What do you do? Cut off more line? Leaders do not last forever and sometimes they need to be changed depending on conditions.

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  2 роки тому

      See Episode 2 linked here where Brian answers most of your questions and then feel free to call or e-mail him at the shop if you have any others.
      ua-cam.com/video/l0tDLthd_hg/v-deo.html

  • @dixiemae5042
    @dixiemae5042 3 роки тому +1

    Man there’s some real rocket science theory wind tunnel stuff going on today just to go fishing … 👨🏻‍🏫

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  3 роки тому +2

      No.....not really. It's pretty easy.

    • @rmellish3
      @rmellish3 3 роки тому +2

      I agree. I've never had any issue casting a loop to loop connection. Seems like you may get some marginal gain at best and at worse you've just ruined your expensive fly line.

  • @raymonddunne7153
    @raymonddunne7153 Рік тому

    Great info thx. Just to confirm: at the end there-Is he saying that the fly can be tied directly to a longer butt section/no need for a tippet?

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  Рік тому

      Thanks for watching. That is not at all what they are saying. Please watch episode 2 and it should help? If any further questions, please e-mail or call Brian directly at the shop. He's always happy to help.

  • @89Lumpy
    @89Lumpy 3 роки тому +1

    Awesome video guys thanks. Love your stuff.
    Would great to get some details what but section material to use for a given fly line.

  • @dvdschaub
    @dvdschaub Рік тому

    So what about changing leaders? Do you cut off this snelled knot every time?

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  Рік тому

      Thanks for watching. Please be sure to watch the second episode of this where they explain that with this method, you do not ever "change" leaders. Feel free to call or e-mail the shop if any further questions. They are always happy to help.

  • @daveartwood
    @daveartwood 3 роки тому +1

    To make the butt section permanent are you connecting the midsection with a loop to loop?

  • @oak8728
    @oak8728 3 роки тому +2

    But Flip, what about the fly weight or indicator? These two things create the same propulsion problem as a loop. And who doesn’t fish a fly with weight of any kind or let alone a bobber?!
    Look I love Flip’s knowledge but forgoing a loop to loop for this nominal advantage is just a bad trade off. Maybe unless you have A LOT of rods or one rod for one thing and that’s it.
    I fish, navigate various spots I couldn’t imagine having to redo that every time, not to mention it completely lacks cohesion with every tip on the market.
    Wisdom tells me to pick your fights, this surely won’t be one I take on as it’s a benefit more than a disadvantage.

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  3 роки тому

      Part 2 will answer all of your questions. Stay tuned.

    • @rmellish3
      @rmellish3 3 роки тому

      Yeah, I second this. Seems like a bunch of nonsense

  • @soccerstar204
    @soccerstar204 3 роки тому +8

    Love to see a closer view of the knot. Do you use both ends of the leader?

  • @edperry6199
    @edperry6199 3 роки тому +1

    Good info. I learned to remove the loop 30 some years ago, but always used a Nail Knot.
    My question is... Does the nail knot also seal off the flyline tip?
    I notice I have to dress or clean my fly line tip more then I like. Or is cleaning it every time I go out normal?
    Also - I tie a piece of mono onto the end of the Flyline about 8 or 10 inches long then attach leader to that so I don't really ever cut into my flylines.

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  3 роки тому

      Thanks for watching and thanks for being here. Best to send those questions over to the shop directly and they will be happy to help. E-mail or call and they'll get you answered.

    • @Meatball-candy
      @Meatball-candy Рік тому

      What weight mono do you use and what weight fly line are you going to? Also, what lengths are your leader sections? Thanks in advance.

  • @hj1215
    @hj1215 3 роки тому +1

    Flip is so intelligent about this stuff and not like a old timer. Tell him thanks for the lesson as some of us age. You go Flip!!

  • @ephraim1080
    @ephraim1080 2 роки тому

    Flipp the...SCIENTIST of fly fishing

  • @chipsaunders154
    @chipsaunders154 2 роки тому

    Great store of knowledge in Mr. Pallot but pleeeeeeeeeze edit out the airboat noise and shaky camera.

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  2 роки тому

      Thanks for watching. Sorry but we usually don't edit things out after almost two years. That was not a shaky camera, that was done on purpose.

  • @goswo
    @goswo 2 роки тому +1

    This is absolutely brilliant. Could watch and listen allllll day. Thanks for doing this :-)

  • @feltn78
    @feltn78 3 роки тому +6

    Answered a question I’ve always had! It seemed to me that the less than solid connection of a loop to loop would interrupt the transfer of energy from line to leader. The common sense that comes from this man is refreshing. Many thanks Mike

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  3 роки тому

      Thanks for watching and happy to help. Stay tuned for part 2.......

  • @biffnolan9668
    @biffnolan9668 2 роки тому +1

    Exactly what I needed. Thank you for the content man. God Bless 🙏🏼

  • @milesgardner9918
    @milesgardner9918 3 роки тому +1

    Great video as usual but how does he taper it, he didn’t finish?

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  3 роки тому +3

      Second video coming....sorry we didn't make that clear. Stay tuned.

  • @chazmorgan1516
    @chazmorgan1516 Рік тому

    I’ve been trying this for 30 minutes and I still can’t get it

  • @Frankyfromnj
    @Frankyfromnj 2 роки тому +1

    Now that’s an outstanding UA-cam teaching video.. worth ever second… Thank you Brian !

  • @cap2666
    @cap2666 5 днів тому

    Cutting the loop will not able the water to enter the Fly line? This way to make it to sink?

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  5 днів тому

      As they have shown in quite a few videos, the snell "seals" up the end of the line and no water gets in. On top of that....they use mono core lines for this style of fishing anyways. Feel free to call or e-mail Brian at the shop if any other questions. Thanks!

    • @cap2666
      @cap2666 4 дні тому +1

      @@Madriveroutfitters thanks for the answer

  • @frankyuvan212
    @frankyuvan212 Рік тому

    Hey flip can I have your hat your my hero God bless

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for watching. We'll check with him and see if he wants to give up the hat.

  • @draven3838
    @draven3838 3 роки тому

    Glad I'm not the only one who doesn't like the loops ,I cut them off too

  • @Str8Flossin
    @Str8Flossin 2 роки тому +1

    Great info! Do you recall the length of tippet for this set up? Thank you.

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  2 роки тому

      Check the part 2 video? If not, call or e-mail Brian at the shop and he should be able to help. Thanks.

    • @Str8Flossin
      @Str8Flossin 2 роки тому

      @@Madriveroutfitters found it, thank you. Excellent.

  • @ShotawayFilms
    @ShotawayFilms 3 роки тому

    Would you attach leader/butt section to clear mono tip line the same ''snell'' way ??.I currently use albright because thought ''snell'' could slip.

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  3 роки тому

      Please contact Brian directly through the shop and he'll be happy to help. E-mail or call. Thanks.

  • @KH63896
    @KH63896 2 роки тому

    Even people who drive airboats get annoyed when one goes by!

  • @ronyewest
    @ronyewest 2 роки тому

    Doesn’t the tip of that end up rotting cause the core is exposed?

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  2 роки тому

      They have explained this in quite a few videos. The core is not exposed. This knot seals it up tight. Feel free to call the shop if any other questions. They are always happy to help. Thanks.

  • @TylerF33
    @TylerF33 3 роки тому +4

    So if you get out there and end up throwing several different setups: drys, streamers, nymphs then the loop to loop is more practical since you'd be changing out leaders often. Is that accurate?

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  3 роки тому +1

      No. You should stick with loop-to-loop. This is not a trout fishing video. 0

  • @stephenrosenfeld833
    @stephenrosenfeld833 3 роки тому +1

    This is a wonderful video! I have a #8 Airflo C.A.S.T. line (Canadian Atlantic Salmon Taper) and the built-in welded loop broke after a year. I tried this exact knot after searching for "nailless nail knots" on UA-cam. Unfortunately, each time I tightened up, the 30# leader cut right through the fly line; first the coating, like a wire stripper, and then the core as well! After six attempts and losing over a foot of fly line, I gave up and went to my local shop. They installed one of those Chinese finger trap loop sections, which saved the fly line, but is very stiff, particularly where they lashed it down with heavy tying thread. I'm too scared to try this knot again! Do you think this is particular to Airflo lines? Thanks again for these informative videos!

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks for watching. Best to contact the folks at the shop with your questions and they will be happy to help. You can call them or e-mail them and they will get you fixed up.

    • @stephenrosenfeld833
      @stephenrosenfeld833 3 роки тому +1

      @@Madriveroutfitters Thanks. I'm looking forward to the rest of this series!

    • @MrBolderado
      @MrBolderado 2 роки тому +2

      Same issue for me. I'm on attempt number three with RIO Permit line. WIth the past two attempts the butt section snell knot cut right through the line. After cutting off the loop I hope I' not screwed!

    • @FlyingCartographer
      @FlyingCartographer Рік тому

      Yikes I was just about to cut my loops off.

  • @kec2528
    @kec2528 Рік тому

    Also, by exposing the core of the line does it absorb water? Thanks so much?

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  Рік тому

      Thanks for watching. Please send any and all questions directly to the shop and they will be happy to help. Send an e-mail or give them a call.

    • @kec2528
      @kec2528 Рік тому +1

      @@Madriveroutfitters thanks. I did watch both and my questions were answered. Appreciate your time.

  • @WinnebagoBrewingCo
    @WinnebagoBrewingCo 2 роки тому

    Who makes that blue and brown plaid shirt?

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  2 роки тому

      Here you go:
      www.madriveroutfitters.com/m-93-howler-brothers.aspx

  • @awnik99
    @awnik99 Рік тому

    This non-loop mentality might work for someone whos experienced and can make a leader last for a while, however a big drawback with this method is that you will be forced to cut more and more of your fishing line as you change leaders. In my case(beginner) i would run out of fly line after a week of cutting it in order to change my tangled up leaders

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  Рік тому

      Please watch both videos before you make comments like this. They are not proposing you do that…..at all. Please.

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  Рік тому

      We just put out another video today that addresses your concerns……directly.

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  Рік тому

      And by no means is this for beginners. If you watch our beginner stuff, Brian always recommends loop to loop connections.

  • @oskargallardo643
    @oskargallardo643 2 роки тому

    What is that blue rooster shirt?! Take my money!

  • @FlyFishingChronicles
    @FlyFishingChronicles 3 роки тому

    But what is when you have to change the leader? Do you have to cut off a piece of fly line every time you have to change the leader? That would ruin the whole line after a while. Or am I wrong?

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  3 роки тому +2

      With this method, you would not change leaders. The butt section is essentially permanent. Stay tuned as Brian will explain further.

  • @johnpetsch5202
    @johnpetsch5202 3 роки тому +3

    Legend!!!!

  • @wstcoastcan
    @wstcoastcan 3 роки тому +1

    Please show this knot close up.

  • @Imsosaintly
    @Imsosaintly 2 роки тому

    Would an FG knot be a better leader connection knot?

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  2 роки тому +1

      Please send your questions over to the shop via e-mail or give them a call and they will be happy to help. Thanks.

  • @DaiHGowerWales
    @DaiHGowerWales 8 місяців тому

    Absolutely rolling laughing at Flip's annoyed stare in the frozen frame while airboat engine revved 😂😂😂 great editing guys. BTW im loving the Three Grandes and three standard Leader Wallets - superb products. Dai Howells from the beautiful Gower Peninsula seabass snd golden grey mullet sandy beaches near Swansea in Wales UK

  • @TheLymanDiamond
    @TheLymanDiamond Місяць тому

    I love these videos. Flip has got me wanting to snip that loop now.
    Thanks guys.

  • @tronkleds1209
    @tronkleds1209 3 роки тому +1

    I always cut the loop get a thinner line that way

  • @georgeschade9871
    @georgeschade9871 8 місяців тому

    This method worked perfect for me. I have used loops for years and needed a better way to attach fly line to a leader. Flip’s method was just the ticket for me. When I was a beginner this would have been hard, and I appreciate that Mad River Outfitters makes it clear that loop to loop is best for beginners. Excellent channel with great fly fishing tutorials. Keep up the good work!

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  8 місяців тому

      Thanks for watching. Loops are much better for beginning anglers for sure.

  • @tomtrudgeon4105
    @tomtrudgeon4105 2 роки тому

    Ok, so here’s the question this video poses:
    What if you change your leader often, for nymphing, euro nymphing, lake nymphing, dry fly, streamer, and so on?
    I’ll soon be cutting too deep into my $120 fly line!!
    How do I deal?

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  2 роки тому

      You stick with loops. No question.
      Watch this as well:
      ua-cam.com/video/l0tDLthd_hg/v-deo.html

  • @robertcalamusso4218
    @robertcalamusso4218 2 роки тому

    I’ve never used the loop or a loop on a fly line.

  • @levialston1496
    @levialston1496 2 роки тому

    Did he say to make the leader line 9 ft long?

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  2 роки тому

      Please send your questions over to Brian at the shop directly. Call him or send him and email and he will be happy to help. Thanks for watching.

  • @prestonsymonds8005
    @prestonsymonds8005 Рік тому

    Just starting to salt water fish in Old Lyme CT.2023 season.... have done fresh water for long time... your videos are helping a tremendous amount thanks...P

  • @matthewbazerkomccusker74
    @matthewbazerkomccusker74 2 роки тому

    Pure E -vill ., don’t touch it !!!

  • @mjt1229
    @mjt1229 2 роки тому

    Been doing this for nearly twenty years... I bought a new spool & line at the shop I (eventually) wound up guiding for in Ketchum, ID, and when Dave F. (may he RIP) spooled it for me, he added a butt section. I bought a leader, cut off the loop and he showed me how to attach it to the butt section. My fly delivery improved significantly after that. I came, logically, to the conclusions that Flip discusses in this video.
    Other than the casting loop, the only loops in my line ever since have been non-slip loops and the occasional wind knot when I try something stupid.

  • @zanelorimer4030
    @zanelorimer4030 6 місяців тому

    Thankyou very much, I have watched this video twice so far. I was looking to attach leader to fly line - now I will just cut it off , flip is a wealth of knowledge and enjoy the input when he shares 😃😃

  • @scottflear7876
    @scottflear7876 2 роки тому

    Hi Brian, I've watch this video a few times now. I surely like the knot and theory behind it but..., my question is, can I apply this knot to a tarpon leader connection to fly line? Most "experts" advise going with the albright knot for tarpon because of the strength and the idea that it's less likely to strip off the coating on the fly line (of course causing the connection to fail).when under the stress of fighting a big tarpon. Is this knot the end-all-and-be-all leader to fly line connection even for large, heavy pulling fish like tarpon and GT' or should the albright be substituted in for the heavy weights?

    • @Madriveroutfitters
      @Madriveroutfitters  2 роки тому

      Thanks for watching. Please send your questions over to Brian at the shop and he'll be happy to help/answer. E-mail him and he'll get back to you quickly.