Edit! Getting rid of blocking isn’t the worst thing Elon is doing. If you are a part of twitter their TOS basically says that they own you and all the content you post. They are allowed to USE and put ads on your posts without permission or compensation. They are trying to say that if you have a twitter account they now own royalty free rights to Your work, Art, Videos, tweets, and other posts. They are also trying to say that you having an account is payment enough. So you will not see a sent of the profit they will make from your content. They are allowed to take your posts / art, use it however they want, manipulate the image, again however they want! They will also be using all your content that you have already posted, feed it to their ai and you get no compensation for that either! ITS RIDICULOUS! This is not even the tip of the iceberg! so in other words, delete your twitter or private it now. If you have stuff posted there it’s too late, they have already fed it to their ai and they are going to use it for whatever they see fit. We already have youtube forcing ads on our videos and down our throats without compensation, we don’t need more of that with the bonus of big billionaires stealing our Art/ posts to make themselves richer.
You cant delete your twitter now, they force you to wait 30 days. And who know what they are going to do to your personal information in that time. I dont believe that point of sale (abbreviate that) elon will actually respect the privacy policy.
@@maggie3060there's tools that'll let you delete your tweets, though I'd recommend archiving them first on your own server or computer (a physical server, we've all seen where The Cloud is going 😒) Or you could do what I did and get banned lol
okay but to be completely honest, youtube is mostly forcing this much ads, because people have ways to not watch them. If everyone watched ads, they wouldn't have started this whole war on adblocks (at least that's how I feel). UA-cam is VERY expensive to run. I don't in any way feel any respect for yt tho, nor do I justify their actions, since instead of fighting ad blocks, these idiots better focus on what they are actually forcing down people's throats. Piracy is always a customer service problem. Maybe getting scam ads is just straight up bad All that said, twitter is a different story, more akin to adobe. in fact, from what I've read, they literally copy-pasted the paragraph that got adobe in hot waters into their ToS. If you are an artist who will still use this platform, you are a moron or just don't care about AI. I really hope bluesky can get a good start and actually be popular and finally show elon how to run a website
This cant be legal, like most people do not even read the TOS. A tos is a contract and changing a contract without informing the user and not allowing them to reject should be illegal
There's a line in it that says it can be changed at any moment without notice, and for you to no longer be bound by it you need to either cease your use or close your account.
I deleted my Twitter over a year ago when it basically became Pay-To-Win just to have art posts show up in Twitter algorithm by having to pay for Twitter Premium (though it was still Twitter Blue at the time of deleting my account). Now Twitter's downgrading the block button to be on-par with a very notorious furry website that I just as equally despise: FurAffinity (only FA has an excuse-it's OLD and never been properly updated beyond cosmetic stuff to the UI). I thought this was a joke, but it turned out to be true! XD
@@NeoEvanA.R.TBluesky. Despite what this guy says Bluesky is pretty decent for artists, despite the smaller user base. Something like 30% of the user base post *daily* while most social media sites see 10% posting monthly as "good". The artists I follow report getting a lot more engagement and sales than they do on twitter despite having far less followers. That said if you want traction with people on Bluesky you have to actually engage with others, simply posting your art and leaving won't cut it.
There is one thing AI cant control. PREFERENCE Some people just prefer genuine human to human interaction. They want to commission their work to an actual human especially if its an artist they like. PERSONALITY is what makes people pay for personal art.
I agree so much with the "you cant stay on twitter AND bluesky at the same time". Why would ppl go to bluesky if their artist is still gonna post on twt
@@NeoEvanA.R.T Those who make them are just paid workers. The ones investing in them are part of the problem, but the state, by allowing them to use your work and information for private interests that others will eventually pay for, is the main problem.
I'm pretty sure that there will be some issues with copyrights because if A takes B's work that isn't on twitter, posts it and it gets "eaten" by the machine, there's no real way to take it out. Although it is pretty much impossible to know if that one piece was used in AI training, so the support will take the work at question down and say stuff like "duh, we didn't use it". Unless training data is gathered at one place and is open source,, it is a pretty shady move. Though I'll be waiting for Grog (or grok, idk)) the Third Furher after it learns from twitter.
Views or Followers aint what matters. It's the message saying human artists matter. I see it like this if the casuals don't see my art. WHO CARES. I'll create a authentic following of people who care about the same shit I do. I will say Bluesky, Cara or even Sheezyart are great places to go to. I see nothing wrong with it. Artists might have to accept we need to work for the industry to make money over freelancing or idk know just keep art as a hobby but honestly, The message matters more. IDC human artists matter!! edit - I urge you to leave twitter if you care about human creativity. Otherwise you won't be the solution. WE ALL CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE!
and remember they also did a change where you can still see posts and tweets on someones account that is blocked so combine the 2 things together and you can see how this is going to go
I think bluesky should be a secondary account for anyone who actively uses twitter, there is a real possibility that elon will eventually just give up on the platform by either shutting it down or trying to sell what ever value twitter has by the end of the upcoming election or sometime next year. You can't expect the platform to be running any longer than 12 months from now considering it's literally lost 80% of its valuation since elon was forced to buy twitter and it's hemorrhaging money every minute it's online. Elon is essentially using his own money to keep the platform alive, which looks bad if anyone is a tesla stockholder (Elon is basically trading his tesla stock to keep a hemorrhaging social media platform alive). When this does happen, at least people basically have twitter 2.0 and it's not as much of a shock.
Everyone on my main feed are leaving for bluesky. Even incredibly popular artist who work with big corpos are showing their bluesky and slowly reducing their activity on twitter. So I have hope within the circles I'm around to fully ditch twitter.
Gladly my twitter never really took off so the move is easier for me, but it makes me sad for artists that had grown big there. I trust bsky to succeed eventually, honestly, Elon is just ruining Twitter and he'll destroy it.
They really are, all my favorite artists have moved to bluesky and I am an up incoming artist and im going to be on bluesky cause honestly fuck twitter
Yup, i even checked my twitter one last time before deleting it, and bozo's on the otherside being toxic as usual and saying random crap that "weirdos" are moving away. Bro, nah, YOU ARE the weirdos we are trying to move away, the literal reason we wanna get away from and HATE about twitter as a whole 💀
11:19 do you think it could be useful to use Twitter as an ad for your Bluesky? Something like: "Here's a preview of my latest work. Here's the link to the Full piece at blsky"
Thinking about the 11,000 accounts I had blocked on Twitter when Musk took over so I had it hyper curated to my tastes in fandoms after years of use only for Musky-boy to immediately yank that ability away from me and I deleted my account months ago. Now I have even less reason to go back. BlueSky looking real good right now.
wdym? The block button change just makes it so people can see your posts but not comment or anything like that. People can still see your posts that even without the change by making a new account or going on incognito mode whatever.
Your stuff will always find itself in a dataset one way or another anyway. that's why I'm no longer sharing my stuff on the internet any longer. It's really sad that this is the only thing you can do. AI killed art.
we should keep posting ai art all the time so that the ai starts using ai art as training data and eventually screw over itself. Malicious compliance amirite?
I saw so many of my mutual share there screenshot there make a account there...and i try make a account there to have it,but is crash 3 times and give up ... the issues no one say it out loud is that twitter, youtube or google itself are the default for the world
if you made the account yesterday, it happened to quite a few people bc more than half a million people joined yesterday and there was too much traffic there
I will explain more in depth and add on to my last comment I’ll explain it more in depth today If you are a part of twitter their TOS basically says that they own you and all the content you post. They are allowed to USE and put ads on your posts without permission or compensation. They are trying to say that if you have a twitter account they now own royalty free rights to Your work, Art, Videos, tweets, and other posts. They are also trying to say that you having an account is payment enough. So you will not see a sent of the profit they will make from your content. They are allowed to take your posts / art, use it however they want, manipulate the image, again however they want! They will also be using all your content that you have already posted, feed it to their ai and you get no compensation for that either! ITS RIDICULOUS! This is not even the tip of the iceberg! so in other words, delete your twitter or private it now. If you have stuff posted there it’s too late, they have already fed it to their ai and they are going to use it for whatever they see fit. We already have youtube forcing ads on our videos and down our throats without compensation, we don’t need more of that with the bonus of big billionaires stealing our Art/ posts to make themselves richer.
most of people i follow are switching to bluesky so unfortunately im partially unable to see their content im still staying on x i see no reason to leave for now
And ppl said Elon is purposely running Twitter to the ground 😂? He literally made it more corporate to satiate their corporate needs while making it his personal echo chamber.
Now I understand why so suddenly all moved to Bluesky. I somehow missed this typ of atrocious BS. EDIT: And even if somehow something can make'em backpedal this changes, I can tell from my experience that they can just make descriptions more murky and do this anyway but by covering of extremely non-specific paraphrasing first letters of every sentence of which mysteriously forming into "FUCK DA HUMANS".
I feel no sympathy for visual artists. As a professional photographer and author of both fiction and non-fictive journalism, visual artists have been using Chat GPT and replacing journalism with their AI writing pieces. They get a taste of their own medicine with this one.
@@fredobishai1611 AI bro? I don’t use AI. Good try, though. AI literally got rid of my jobs for many smaller blog posts I worked for and ruined a lot of what I wanted to do. There are people out here CHATGPT write entire novels lol. Good try though. Everyone who disagrees with artists are “AI bros”. Yall are the REAL AI bros, utilizing Chat GPT to get ideas for your English essays and grad papers instead of doing real research and coming up with your own ideas. Two way street hun.
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Edit!
Getting rid of blocking isn’t the worst thing Elon is doing.
If you are a part of twitter their TOS basically says that they own you and all the content you post. They are allowed to USE and put ads on your posts without permission or compensation. They are trying to say that if you have a twitter account they now own royalty free rights to Your work, Art, Videos, tweets, and other posts. They are also trying to say that you having an account is payment enough. So you will not see a sent of the profit they will make from your content. They are allowed to take your posts / art, use it however they want, manipulate the image, again however they want! They will also be using all your content that you have already posted, feed it to their ai and you get no compensation for that either! ITS RIDICULOUS! This is not even the tip of the iceberg!
so in other words, delete your twitter or private it now. If you have stuff posted there it’s too late, they have already fed it to their ai and they are going to use it for whatever they see fit. We already have youtube forcing ads on our videos and down our throats without compensation, we don’t need more of that with the bonus of big billionaires stealing our Art/ posts to make themselves richer.
You cant delete your twitter now, they force you to wait 30 days. And who know what they are going to do to your personal information in that time. I dont believe that point of sale (abbreviate that) elon will actually respect the privacy policy.
@@maggie3060so glad I don’t use Twitter
@@maggie3060 First delete all tweets, then delete the empty account.
@@maggie3060there's tools that'll let you delete your tweets, though I'd recommend archiving them first on your own server or computer (a physical server, we've all seen where The Cloud is going 😒)
Or you could do what I did and get banned lol
okay but to be completely honest, youtube is mostly forcing this much ads, because people have ways to not watch them. If everyone watched ads, they wouldn't have started this whole war on adblocks (at least that's how I feel). UA-cam is VERY expensive to run. I don't in any way feel any respect for yt tho, nor do I justify their actions, since instead of fighting ad blocks, these idiots better focus on what they are actually forcing down people's throats. Piracy is always a customer service problem. Maybe getting scam ads is just straight up bad
All that said, twitter is a different story, more akin to adobe. in fact, from what I've read, they literally copy-pasted the paragraph that got adobe in hot waters into their ToS. If you are an artist who will still use this platform, you are a moron or just don't care about AI. I really hope bluesky can get a good start and actually be popular and finally show elon how to run a website
This cant be legal, like most people do not even read the TOS. A tos is a contract and changing a contract without informing the user and not allowing them to reject should be illegal
Their ToS has a line that the ToS can change at any time.
Pretty sure it *is* illegal.
There's a line in it that says it can be changed at any moment without notice, and for you to no longer be bound by it you need to either cease your use or close your account.
@@ZeldagigafanMatthew That’s fuckin crummy
By default this illegale by EU law due the AI thing it not allow in EU laws to Copyright or literly own things
I deleted my Twitter over a year ago when it basically became Pay-To-Win just to have art posts show up in Twitter algorithm by having to pay for Twitter Premium (though it was still Twitter Blue at the time of deleting my account). Now Twitter's downgrading the block button to be on-par with a very notorious furry website that I just as equally despise: FurAffinity (only FA has an excuse-it's OLD and never been properly updated beyond cosmetic stuff to the UI). I thought this was a joke, but it turned out to be true! XD
If anyone uses twitter for anything more than memes, they're lost in the sauce. Terrible platform lmao
Did u draw ur pfp
people will act like elon musk was the reason twitter is terrible. it was always horrible, its just worse now
I post my art on Twitter, where should i post next???
@@NeoEvanA.R.TBluesky. Despite what this guy says Bluesky is pretty decent for artists, despite the smaller user base. Something like 30% of the user base post *daily* while most social media sites see 10% posting monthly as "good". The artists I follow report getting a lot more engagement and sales than they do on twitter despite having far less followers. That said if you want traction with people on Bluesky you have to actually engage with others, simply posting your art and leaving won't cut it.
where u get your pfp shawty
There is one thing AI cant control. PREFERENCE
Some people just prefer genuine human to human interaction.
They want to commission their work to an actual human especially if its an artist they like.
PERSONALITY is what makes people pay for personal art.
I hate the fact that elon would rather have everyone be miserable then everyone to be happy, I'm glad I'm on bsky now lol xD
That thing is full of holes, what if some1 who doesn't use twt gets their illustrations/photos posted there
I agree so much with the "you cant stay on twitter AND bluesky at the same time". Why would ppl go to bluesky if their artist is still gonna post on twt
I hate this. I really do. I hate ai.
AI is not the problem.
@@peao4038 yes, the people making them are.
@@NeoEvanA.R.T Those who make them are just paid workers. The ones investing in them are part of the problem, but the state, by allowing them to use your work and information for private interests that others will eventually pay for, is the main problem.
I'm pretty sure that there will be some issues with copyrights because if A takes B's work that isn't on twitter, posts it and it gets "eaten" by the machine, there's no real way to take it out. Although it is pretty much impossible to know if that one piece was used in AI training, so the support will take the work at question down and say stuff like "duh, we didn't use it".
Unless training data is gathered at one place and is open source,, it is a pretty shady move. Though I'll be waiting for Grog (or grok, idk)) the Third Furher after it learns from twitter.
Views or Followers aint what matters. It's the message saying human artists matter. I see it like this if the casuals don't see my art. WHO CARES. I'll create a authentic following of people who care about the same shit I do. I will say Bluesky, Cara or even Sheezyart are great places to go to. I see nothing wrong with it. Artists might have to accept we need to work for the industry to make money over freelancing or idk know just keep art as a hobby but honestly, The message matters more. IDC human artists matter!!
edit - I urge you to leave twitter if you care about human creativity. Otherwise you won't be the solution. WE ALL CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE!
and remember they also did a change where you can still see posts and tweets on someones account that is blocked so combine the 2 things together and you can see how this is going to go
I think bluesky should be a secondary account for anyone who actively uses twitter, there is a real possibility that elon will eventually just give up on the platform by either shutting it down or trying to sell what ever value twitter has by the end of the upcoming election or sometime next year.
You can't expect the platform to be running any longer than 12 months from now considering it's literally lost 80% of its valuation since elon was forced to buy twitter and it's hemorrhaging money every minute it's online. Elon is essentially using his own money to keep the platform alive, which looks bad if anyone is a tesla stockholder (Elon is basically trading his tesla stock to keep a hemorrhaging social media platform alive).
When this does happen, at least people basically have twitter 2.0 and it's not as much of a shock.
Knowing the elongated muskrat, I’m shocked this didn’t happen sooner
Everyone on my main feed are leaving for bluesky. Even incredibly popular artist who work with big corpos are showing their bluesky and slowly reducing their activity on twitter. So I have hope within the circles I'm around to fully ditch twitter.
Gladly my twitter never really took off so the move is easier for me, but it makes me sad for artists that had grown big there. I trust bsky to succeed eventually, honestly, Elon is just ruining Twitter and he'll destroy it.
Maybe all the artists will FINALLY LEAVE TWITTER now.
They really are, all my favorite artists have moved to bluesky and I am an up incoming artist and im going to be on bluesky cause honestly fuck twitter
Yup, i even checked my twitter one last time before deleting it, and bozo's on the otherside being toxic as usual and saying random crap that "weirdos" are moving away. Bro, nah, YOU ARE the weirdos we are trying to move away, the literal reason we wanna get away from and HATE about twitter as a whole 💀
thanks for the good take
Uh oh, now Bluesky is gonna be full of awful Twitter people, like the time Tumblr users had moved to Twitter.
Awful people will go to any place they find and have many people in it, so yeah that's a unfortunate inevitable thing.
yea, bsky was really comfy to post my art
guess i gotta move to mastodon now ☹
11:19 do you think it could be useful to use Twitter as an ad for your Bluesky? Something like: "Here's a preview of my latest work. Here's the link to the Full piece at blsky"
Depends on your audience honestly.
Thinking about the 11,000 accounts I had blocked on Twitter when Musk took over so I had it hyper curated to my tastes in fandoms after years of use only for Musky-boy to immediately yank that ability away from me and I deleted my account months ago. Now I have even less reason to go back.
BlueSky looking real good right now.
wdym? The block button change just makes it so people can see your posts but not comment or anything like that. People can still see your posts that even without the change by making a new account or going on incognito mode whatever.
I never used Instagram and Twitter for years now. Time to go sign back up and delete my dead accounts
Your stuff will always find itself in a dataset one way or another anyway.
that's why I'm no longer sharing my stuff on the internet any longer. It's really sad that this is the only thing you can do. AI killed art.
not yet
ai doesn't have a sense of style
we should keep posting ai art all the time so that the ai starts using ai art as training data and eventually screw over itself. Malicious compliance amirite?
This is why I’m glad Bluesky exists
I've been building my art platform on there for YEARS and when I finally started growing it went to shit :") le sigh, we bluesky on
In a month’s time people will come crawling back to Twitter, believe me on this.
Thank goodness I don't use Twitter.
well
time to move to Bluesky lol
There is no hope for twitter atp the downfall is like irreversible istg 💀💀💀💀
I saw so many of my mutual share there screenshot there make a account there...and i try make a account there to have it,but is crash 3 times and give up ... the issues no one say it out loud is that twitter, youtube or google itself are the default for the world
if you made the account yesterday, it happened to quite a few people bc more than half a million people joined yesterday and there was too much traffic there
@@afrinrahman5519 really ? well that explaine, maybe i do one later when calms down
@@AndrewSnake I just made one like hours ago, it's good now
idt bluesky can replace all of twitter, but hopefully possibly probably it will steal a major part of art twitter (im coping)
Everyone become caveman! Teach it gibberish!
Ungun ga bombom igi igi ga ba wung
This is why I moved to bluesky years ago.
I would have gotten there sooner because didn’t they have a code thing where you could only make an account with an invite?
@@lemonvegas yeah they did, when it was in beta. I got mine from a friend.
DAMN it fresh AF in here
Then there's no way to survive the worst SNS decision and die poorly?
I will explain more in depth and add on to my last comment
I’ll explain it more in depth today
If you are a part of twitter their TOS basically says that they own you and all the content you post. They are allowed to USE and put ads on your posts without permission or compensation. They are trying to say that if you have a twitter account they now own royalty free rights to Your work, Art, Videos, tweets, and other posts. They are also trying to say that you having an account is payment enough. So you will not see a sent of the profit they will make from your content. They are allowed to take your posts / art, use it however they want, manipulate the image, again however they want! They will also be using all your content that you have already posted, feed it to their ai and you get no compensation for that either! ITS RIDICULOUS! This is not even the tip of the iceberg!
so in other words, delete your twitter or private it now. If you have stuff posted there it’s too late, they have already fed it to their ai and they are going to use it for whatever they see fit. We already have youtube forcing ads on our videos and down our throats without compensation, we don’t need more of that with the bonus of big billionaires stealing our Art/ posts to make themselves richer.
most of people i follow are switching to bluesky so unfortunately im partially unable to see their content
im still staying on x i see no reason to leave for now
Thank you I actually didn’t hear about this!
Bluesky doesn't have an algorithm. It does have feeds though. Artists will leave Twitter when their stuff starts being blatantly stolen by Elon.
Bro y'all still on there???
And ppl said Elon is purposely running Twitter to the ground 😂?
He literally made it more corporate to satiate their corporate needs while making it his personal echo chamber.
okay atp now I don’t regret not making a Twitter account. AI is getting out of control!
Have never used twitter once in my life, but this has influenced me to use Bluesky
Ugh I hate that the person to make the tweet was pirate software
Now I understand why so suddenly all moved to Bluesky. I somehow missed this typ of atrocious BS.
EDIT: And even if somehow something can make'em backpedal this changes, I can tell from my experience that they can just make descriptions more murky and do this anyway but by covering of extremely non-specific paraphrasing first letters of every sentence of which mysteriously forming into "FUCK DA HUMANS".
I think a smaller pool can work if you're getting more consistent engagement.
Bluesky is way better anyways
Lol i only use Twitter for me to see nsfw locked content over there so if anything i have nothing to lose
If your an artist then try Cara.
Cara is better than bluesky. Bluesky is just another twitter, they also allow AI.
They aren’t training AI on users posts though
@@garfieldfan925 Posts on bluesky are open for scraping by random ai companies because posts there are not locked under sign in like on X.
Is Cara open for NSFW artists too?
@@ปลาทองอยู่ในน้ํา I think so. I think it works similarly like on art station in terms of nsfw
Bluesky is full of toxic positivity
No it isn't lmao
get on a decent fandom
I feel no sympathy for visual artists.
As a professional photographer and author of both fiction and non-fictive journalism, visual artists have been using Chat GPT and replacing journalism with their AI writing pieces. They get a taste of their own medicine with this one.
you can't be serious
That's a petty reason to bash on them ngl
@Rapiers-and-flowers his reasoning is flawed. Just an AI bro using journalism to state his distaste towards artist. He just wants clout leave him be.
@@fredobishai1611 AI bro? I don’t use AI. Good try, though. AI literally got rid of my jobs for many smaller blog posts I worked for and ruined a lot of what I wanted to do. There are people out here CHATGPT write entire novels lol. Good try though. Everyone who disagrees with artists are “AI bros”. Yall are the REAL AI bros, utilizing Chat GPT to get ideas for your English essays and grad papers instead of doing real research and coming up with your own ideas. Two way street hun.
@@fredobishai1611 Also, ima. Female, not a male. This would be an ‘AI sis’, if anything.
thanks for the good take