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- Опубліковано 9 лис 2016
- Joe Scarborough addresses the media's blind spot in the presidential election.
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Joe Addresses The Media Blindspot Covering Donald Trump's Chance At Presidency | Morning Joe | MSNBC
i think the shock to these media people is that the media is not as important as they think they ARE!
they are in the sense that they are giving the candidates airtime and print, for free.
I feel like this is the result of what has been observed by the media itself for a long while now, only that they've been saying that about their competitors, but never took the time to check themselves.
What are supposed to be impartial reporters and investigators of the truth, have become propagators and pushers of their own organization's agendas and propaganda. When the news anchors are just blurting things out and suggesting that viewers should have to fact check what that they said, a flag should've gone up.
Also, I wouldn't say it was malicious intent that led us to this point, but that their goal has shifted so much from news to entertainment.
Nor intelligent!
Yep. The internet is the #1 source for news and information now.
Right, that's where all the fake stories and people only read the headlines. That played right into Trumps hands.
I hate MSNBC, but I respect and admire everything this man just said. Especially when he says that "if you believe that 50 million Americans are racists and bigots, I take pity on you".
Loved it
And it's implausible to conceive that 16% of the U.S. population aren't racist because???
yeah true just a small minority is.
John Doe: One, I didn’t make that qualification regarding the numbers; the original poster did. I simply responded accordingly; 2, You say people aren't that stupid? Says who? Americans are the least educated and knowledgeable of foreign affairs, languages, and disparate cultures, societies, and social norms amongst all Westernized countries and the least exposed universally; 3 To paraphrase (16% minimum?), you assert that if there were indeed all of these racist, overt racist practices would be occurring. Not necessarily so. In order for that which you’ve espoused to occur, irrespective of the numbers, there’d need to be sets of “conditions” set in place to make it more-or-less “permissible” to overly practice those behaviors, which of course we’re beginning to see since 11/8. Nazi Germany is a classic text book case in point. 4, To paraphrase, you assert that he was popular enough to win. Be mindful of he fact that he did not win the popular vote(i.e., the majority vote of the people) - Hillary did; He won the Electoral College vote, which is something entirely entirely different.
@Johm Doe: P.S. I was I did live in San Francisco. I hat these Midwest winters.
And they haven’t learned a thing from 2016
Exactly NOT ONE THING!!!!!
In Ohio each time we heard Hillary is going to win and trump had no change we had a grin in our faces.
Same here in Wisconsin.
Joe is keepin' it real. Harsh but well deserved words of truth for the mainstream media. Props to him for owning up to it and calling his colleagues out.
The only thing that's missing is pointing out what a flawed candidate Clinton was, but let's not demand too much of corporate media.
They haven't learned anything! They are still arrogant enough to believe that they were right and anyone who voted for Trump was wrong!!
+NotAffiliated +Aero ^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS!!!^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Thread over - done in 2 posts
He's right, but he's also a hypocrite.
w5winston he also blamed himself multiple times.
They didn't want to acknowledge Trump had a chance because that would grant him presidential credibility.
David Roberts exactly.
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It really is amazing watching this video almost 6 years later
Watching this in October 2020... and the collective amnesia of the media is astounding. Can anyone say deja vu?
The people at the Morning Joe aren't taking enough of the blame. Scarborough should stop using the third person and start using the first person plural.
you got that right .. learned skill from klinton .. sound soooo sad !! GOOD
You gotta give credit where credit is due though. He's one of the only people willing to take this stance.
I'm for Trump all the way, joey appears to be dejected because of clinton not getting in, and feels guilty. I want to thank msm for perfect storm.
***** I will go back and look at old videos.
agreed
Ok Joe, I forgive you. Thanks for calling them out
Philip Li they've been trying to be unbiased this whole time.
paulzyuan trying, but still have been showing their biased at times. But not as bad as CNN ABC
Joe at least tried to be unbiased. He gets my forgiveness
what kind of tears?
Philip Li Forgive. As always he/they is blaming others but only them was correct. Go to another media channel and you will see thevswme blame others but themselves
How about cheerleaders for the last 8 years?
Stopped being journalists over the last month? More like the last generation!
Wow,2 more years..
they have totally lost it now....may 2019
btw - they still don't have any credibility 7 years later my friend lol
Give IBD and the LA Times some credit. Their polls got it right, but were repeatedly dismissed as outliers.
Leonardo di C3PO exactly!-and now they don't mention them as having it right the whole time.
Hillary Clinton won the popular vote. The LA Times polls showed Trump up +5. The LA Times Poll was wrong. People need to stop saying it was proven right. It was the state polls in places like Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania that were wrong.
I still find it weird that your system allows Trump to win, although Hillary has more votes.
ThaMobstarr the electoral college is so that all states, which are very different from eachother, have a say in who becomes president. without it, 2 states would decide who governs all 50. it's fair, even if people don't want to agree with it. this isn't the first time the popular vote lost, and won't be the last.
How is it fair? With the electoral college, your vote does not matter at all unless you live in a swing state (which typically is just a few if not one, really). All 50 would be counted and decided. Every state is complex, with different counties doing different things.
I can't believe msnbc is being honest!!! Why would they do something like this???
A temporary lapse. Don't worry, it will pass.
Though of all the msnbc folks, Joe and Mika seem the most reasonable in general.
Remember Hillary Clinton wasn't on the campaign trail & Donald trump was!!!
Exactly! Everything they are saying here is a Lie. They are trying to save face. Wikileaks proves Big Media was in the pockets of the DNC. You cannot trust ANYTHING these people say, they are Deceivers!!
It's not that they blatantly lie, they have it down to an art-form and a science. For the most part these people are are actors playing roles.
It's the fact that they present news without any context, have a short memory and omit critical information from their so called news stories that has shaped the world in their image. The evidence to the contrary exits for anyone that has the time to cross-check sources. Once the critical omissions have been found it's easy to spot the difference between the narrative and reality.
Even now they are doing it, every single word is to lead you away from the truth, like a magician.
That's just what they do.
Guilt.
No one listened to the people. These guys just listened to themselves, and they still do.
I don't feel sorry for them, I laugh at them!
All they needed to do was read their youtube comments for the last year .
Agree. If they just read most social media comments or posts, that would've been the tell tell sign that Trump was going to win. The evidence was there and they were too blind to see it.
They were not too blind to see it. They knew very well and were desperately constructing an alternative narrative.
LOL
Narcissists possess such grandiosity that they really believe people think like them, and they also believe their own lies. They didn't see it because they don't live in reality. They live in their reality.
I wouldn't say YoutTube comments is a reliable source.
Wow! Props to Joe and MSNBC for being open and honest for once. I can't stand MSNBC on most nights but hit the home run here.
This Media is ruined. OK ?
NOTHING YOU CAN DO...You're ALL DONE.
NO ONE WITH A BRAIN WILL EVER TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY EVER AGAIN.
you tubers did a better job than these guys. MSMBC, CNN,CBS and ABC
youtubers and some print journalists as well. Joe and the other talking heads are still missing the base issue. That is that the American people were denied discussion of the important issues in any meaningful way. Even the freaking debates were cover like boxing matches. We have to get back to journalism and real reporting. There's a bunch that needs to be addressed in American politics but one piece is to ditch the media, as owned by corporate money as or legislators, and find ways to reward actually news reporting. Like is said, ditch the media. Vote with your remote.
youtubers and some print journalists as well. Joe and the other talking heads are still missing the base issue. That is that the American people were denied discussion of the important issues in any meaningful way. Even the freaking debates were cover like boxing matches. We have to get back to journalism and real reporting. There's a bunch that needs to be addressed in American politics but one piece is to ditch the media, as owned by corporate money as or legislators, and find ways to reward actually news reporting. Like is said, ditch the media. Vote with your remote.
jcjr27 rebel media
Because youtubers aren't bought by corporations and do actual journalism
Omair Sheikh I disagree, I find career UA-camrs to be incredibly irresponsible in their reporting.
Though they may not be "bought" there is no evidence that they are not (a claim, like what Casey Neistat added with his "Who I am Voting For" video does not suffice as proper evidence).
Though UA-camrs are very influential this does not justify their credibility as a reporter or an individual with enough experience to exercise their beliefs accurately, safely and effectively to be considered more qualified (or as qualified) than reporters.
You are right about mainstream media though. I strayed away from all of these sources and relied on primary sources to make my decision.
Anthony Weiner's laptop saved western civilization
Ain't that just poetic justice??
That's one of the reasons why she lost
Thanks Carlos Danger! LMAO
LOL...
It's like deja vu, all over again!
Morning Blow!😆
This whole diatribe proves the problem is that the press writes for each other.
How about the media blindspot in not talking about the issues for the entire duration of the campaign? Unbelievable how you paraded scandals, poll results and personal shortcoming, but couldn't get a word in edgewise about political reform, global warming or the immense amount of Americans living in poverty.
TTV5 Agree wholeheartedly.
Blindspot? More like "willingly gouging out their own eyes" ...
Past month? They haven't been journalists in years, they haven't been journalists in decades.
They weren't half as bad in the 70s and 80s as they are now! They are just full blown liberal media and they want nothing to do with the right! These people think that our version of America is the worst thing in the world and we are racist and terrible for having God and rules in our lives! They hate Christians and Catholics and Jews and they hate the fact that these 3 religion's are America! Because our religions have rules they want our religion banned! These people had a agenda to change America into some liberal open border country where normal citizens are the intruders and should be silenced and we should accept what we are given!!! The Democrats have lost their dam minds!!!!
I don’t see the problem with the Trump Presidency__...yes I’ve reflected.
Agreed. In the face of unending, unfathomable hatred by the left. I have never seen such hatred, not only in politics, but in my life as a whole as the hatred the left has for the President.
As an immigrant and naturalized citizen, I didn't know Trump that well, certainly not his political views. I live in a rural area in NC, and I'm painfully aware how much working Americans are suffering economically. Once I passed the threshold to support Trump, which was a couple months ago, it still was agonizingly difficult. I had to invest my time to figure out his political stance and policy. But I couldn't help wondering to myself why I should continue spend my time and energy to support a candidate that nearly all expert pollsters, NYT and MSM say with a certainty that he will lose. And if you're a his supporter, you are a racist, homophobe, xenophobe and you name it. I couldn't help to think what the media is saying for days and months is that don't even bother to vote, since he had no path to victory. That was demoralizing every step of the way. In my mind this type media bias amounts to voter suppression, undermining the democratic process. Thank you for ignoring and ridiculing my voice, my neighbors' voice, the voice of the American heartland!
God bless you
Actually, there were two people who predicted his win: Moore and Ann Coulter.
Also Kurt warner. Even predicted he would win Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. Search him up people said he was crazy.
You're right, Coulter said something similar on the Bill Maher show, and she was laughed at, in 2015.
and Bill Mitchell. He said all along the polls were wrong and oversampled
You mean the media is biased. And people didn't just sit back and listen to what it told them to do. The nerve!
He's actually right on this analysis. One of the few times he had an honest look at his cohorts. No one dared to even question their opinions, and ever think openly that they could be wrong. BIG fatal flaw. They believed their own press, and never questioned it's validity.
They could use this reporting again on Nov 3,2020
I find it really hard to understand way anyone thought Hillary had more then ~65% chance to win.
LMAO
Mr. Mountains. You misunderstood what I wrote. I meant that no one in there right mind should have thought that she more then 65% chance to win. Or are you claiming that you where the one person in the world that had highest hopes for Hillary? But you are partly right about the campaign. The big mistake the Democrats did was to think all Americans are politico nerds and already know everything about Hillary.... And maybe thought no one was born after 1984.
that the thing they lied and made it all up with the numbers to discourage the people to vote for trump
LoneMyth I have a hard time believing you even know how polling the votes even work. No they did not lie. They used outdated metadata. And if they discourage anyone it was democratic voters. Every one know that people wont go to the voting places if there candidate is leading too mush in the polls.
+dribrom nope the msm lied they got caught red handed by wikileaks. The polls are in fact has ties with clinton foundation. The msm where trying to make people believe she is Winning so the trump supporters feel discouraged to vote for him but it back fired.
Really do you believe it was outdated come on man msm lost all credibility caught lying on tv.
Joe is one of the few "journalists" who called out the media bias and the false narrative being spread. I have a feeling he would have been even more impartial if his boss wasn't threatening to fire him unless he fell in line.
The chickens have come home to roost.
of course, you media guys are so out of touch of average working class people. You guys just sit there talking.
That feel when you realize you've all been pushing propaganda for almost 2 years
Didn't Joe say he would not vote for TRUMP because of his "racist remarks" about muslims? That was less than 3 weeks ago.
yeh he did but whats your point
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He seems to be accusing everybody else in the media of pushing the "Trump is a racist" narrative. Everyone but himself that is.
Walter Higo nah i think you've missed his point in the video. He's not talking about racist remarks from Trump. He's just talking about the media's blindspot for his supporters that voted him into power.
actually he sounds like he's taking SOME responsibility; he sounds like he's blaming ALL of his colleagues
the media, celebrities, musicians and corporations were dancing to the tune of the puppet masters
these guys are A grade actors btw, just look at the facial expressions lol
spread this brother "Native Americans were liberal and had a open door immigration and welcomed illegal Europeans ,,look what happened to them.. #TRUMP2020..Democrat =Open Borders/Immigration/PC/more 9/11"
I love the uncomfortable rustling of papers in the background LOL
Never thought I'd agree with Michael Moore.
Love him or hate him, at least he saw this coming well in advance. Americans are understandably fed up.
That NY Times headline was an incredibly biased and self-serving indication of just where the media's allegiance was in this election.
Rare moment of truth before the network ended it.
We thought that it was polarized back then. It's at another level now. Joe Scarborough would never ever speak like this today
What stage of grief is Mika in? Anger? Bargaining?
Oh, it's still denial.
Can Joe shut up for one second and let his guests finish a complete thought? For Christ's sakes!
Eating their own - delicious.
Michael Moore wrote a peice the day before the election, he was pretty much spot on about the rust belt and Florida.
Stopped being journalist over the past MONTH? Try years.
Joe you all did it too. Mika talked about Hillary only. We feel horrible...I'm tearful
I felt horrible when my insurance payments tripled and I lost my coverage. None of you cared then.
that's a primary difference between democrats and republicans...democrats talk about feelings of this and that, republicans use facts.
Yes, blacks like myself can be prejudice against allowing over 100K of refugees from terrorist states to have asylum in the U. S when there is no way to vet them, as Hillary said "behind closed doors". Yes, the phrase ILLEGAL immigrants starts with the word ILLEGAL... just like illegal U turn, illegal drugs etc. I'll tell you what, here is a homework assignment for you. Find a homeless person that you have never met and allow that person to use your house as a primary residence. Oh, that sounds crazy to you doesn't it. You proved my point, by calling me a bigot, you have no facts and just like most Dems they use every "ist" in the book to try to win a conversation without using any facts. Just too emotional!
Right on! I like what you say, it sound like you are my kind of fellow. I see that you can smell a liberal a mile away. keep up the good work!
They learned a lesson for a day then forgot it
Joe and Mark Halpern got this right and well said.
Joe needs a show by himself with no guests allowed. He doesn't want anyone speaking but him.
.....not to mention what the media did to Bernie Sanders.
As a Donald Trump supporter in Michigan. I never really saw the other sides younger crowd, most of them were too old or too young. I'm a gas station manager, I meet Trump supporters everyday and actively spoke about it. When I finally did meet some of her supporters they only mocked Trump. Calling his support proof of racism in America. I never spoke about my support of Trump with those customers, only quietly agreed. It would be bad for business had I started those debates. One of my customers said it right: "Together we tell each other, but maybe to our spouses, friends and coworkers that support Hillary we don't let them know. When we go into that booth we write in Trump and that is how he wins."
Michigan was peculiar to me, it's my little bubble, I've never lived or even visited outside of Michigan, I'm 23 now and want to explore the world. We never had strong Hillary supporters or BLM activist or protest of any kind. Detroit almost seemed like a grown-up city with grown-up problems. I truly believe my home state sees the reality of it all, we understand most of what was going on.
I think it's funny that all the different media outlets are blaming each other. Mickey Mouse 💩
True, 26 years of obvious Clinton Cabal cheerleading and cover-ups from ALL of the MSM except Fox here and there ,,,ugh,,,
I really enjoyed this analysis. This is really important to discuss (media bias) and reflect upon and I think that reflection should continue well beyond when the dust has settled on this election result. It's easy to fall into the trap of presenting your opinion as fact. I don't think this conversation should necessarily be in the context of "the media are to blame for Trump" but in the context of "how can we make sure all communities/viewpoints in society are represented from now on". I really respect MSNBC for their efforts to address their own bias even though they might not be successful all the time.
Good point.
Exactly. This is the one big positive that I see in this outcome.
I disagree completely with his analysis. I think they knew what they were doing all along. This was a deliberate attempt to show people there was no point in voting anything else than Hillary because of her overwhelming support. That was their plan all along. It backfired. Good riddance.
No Joe, the time for recrimination is now. Media is filled with elitists who only listen to each other. You did not talk to people I know, we all saw this coming. I hope you all find new work.
It's just a part of the entertainment industry.
They didn't learn, they've double downed.
He don't let nobody else talk and get they point across
I desperately wanted Trump to lose. But as liberals we have been living in our little blue bubbles on the coasts for so long that we became oblivious to what was going on in middle America. This was our reality check.
I gotta ask... After Joe Biden are you still a Democrat?
people will love you when u report honestly. i like u today. keep upnthe good work
Hilarious that they were damning the newspaper editors for reporting on their own disappointment and not reflecting middle America, while everyone on this panel looked like they had just been told they only had hours left to live.
This was important not only for America but for the whole world. A lesson to the Elite that just because you own the media doesn't mean you own the people. Historic moment.
Congratulation for the Big Win @Donald trump
Love from india
Karthik Mahesh Amen!!! 🙏🙏
This is Monday morning quarterbacking at its finest.
Hopefully many media outlets will learn from this experience and start reporting more objectively.
CraftyCrud nope. just wait next election an it will happen again.
CraftyCrud That would truly be news
CraftyCrud They are already sold...
The left has a mental illness that NEVER lets them learn from their mistakes.
Have you seen them change ANY of their M.O. that backfired in their faces and help Trump win?
I haven't. The same goes for their lunatic followers rioting and frothing at the mouth like rabies-victims.
Yeah, so.... They didn't
I didn't feel sorry for Hillary's supporters at all. Their reactions showed just how entitled they felt.
Just because you want something, doesn't mean you're going to get it.
Most of them were removed from reality.
They didnt do their job for Bernie either, this poor journalism goes back far further than a few months
Wow, I am stunned. So nice to hear you say this. So very true! Thank you.
Love Mika's expressions when Joe talks - reminds me of Jim Halpert of "The Office."
They still have learned nothing and instead doubled down. I hope all these networks go under but big tech is keeping them alive with favoritism.
VOTE. VOTE. VOTE.
The famous scene from Citizen Kane:
Tomorrow's paper will either read "Kane Wins!" or
"Fraud at the Polls!"
"the time for recrimination is over" ... way to let yourself off the hook asap!
Except I missed the part where they acknowledge and take responsibility for the media's failure in reporting the Sanders campaign. The media never gave his campaign it's due and now, here we are.
I thought the media's job was to report. Not to influence.
Joe speaks over everyone. He loves hearing only his voice. He constantly interrupts.
11:13 mika made a cute little noise
New ring tone?
Queef?
Hadley Pleasanton no that was a mini moan
CommentAccount wow that's what you got out of this video. You monster.
Blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah Haa Haaa Ha!
Disagree, Joe. This IS the time to name names. Get the phone liars OUT!
Good for you for pointing out the media’s bias.
Glad someone said this on mainstream media
Finally some people talking sense. Great video.
This Man Is Just Plain Nuts,,, We Haven't Had "Journalists" For The Last 50 Years
This is refreshing to watch. MSNBC has to go back to this
It's a shame that Joe & Company didn't maintain this level of honesty going forward. If they'd treat every issue with this level of transparency, they'd have clearance (from me, at least) to endorse or excoriate anyone they want as far as I'm concerned. But...I guess that was asking too much.
You guys stopped being journalists a long long time ago. A journalist goes out and investigates what is going on in this country, and truthfully reports it. All of you main stream have let us down.
No more mea culpas... FALL ON YOUR FUKKIN SWORD !!
AND HERE IT IS 2022 AND THE MEDIA GOT WORSE AND WE WILL PUNISH THEM AGAIN FOR IT.
she ddid not win the popular vote either
She did win the popular vote.
Trump - 60,834,437
Clinton - 61,782,016
Ivan Perez some of the popular vote was illegals and dead people they should remove them and see how popular Hillary Clinton really was.
@eragonmerlin: There were a few milion others who voted for Jill Stein and others; neither Trump nor Hillary got the "majority" of the vote.
1824
1876
1888
2000
2016
all of those election Cycles won the popular vote but lost the Electoral College
I'm just gonna take my basket and leave.
Expect 4 years of protest
andrew ames four years will have nuclear winter by end of the first year, Donald Trump hates the United States of America has set it over and over again and he will take it down as the last president.
No one cares. Deal with it.
Half the country hates this man with or without her. In 6 months when the jobs don't appear with one party rule everyone's gonna hate him.
They've never learned.
Joe your the only one in the MSM to admit it. Thank you.
its not about republican or democrat,
its about Trump.
I agree with this guy but the lady right next to him looks like she is about to break down in tears liberal tears so delicious.
Heather Keniston - I can't understand why you would delight in liberal's tears? I am fearful of what will happen to the environment with a president elect who rejects climate change. People are scared; don't delight in their concern. I was never braggart-like or smug. But I am so concerned, and yes Mika was about to cry throughout the show.
Lisa Shrestha wake up you're not a child no one cares it's done get over it I don't believe really there's people like you out there that's really concerned and you really believe in climate change it's a fantasy made Up for weak-minded people so the government don't have to go after the real threat facing the world terrorism.
Its a bit lol. Mika might be a liberal but she's not irrational, theres a more recent clip where she rails against Elizabeth Warren.
That's his fiance and her father died this past Friday night.
Truth dispensed by Joe Scarborough about the left-leaning Main Stream Media's behavior during the Election cycle is a breath of fresh air. I'm impressed with your honesty.
This election was an anomaly. The polls did not take into account how angry and dissatisfied the voters were. This emotion should have added more weight in Trump's metric. It is not completely the fault of the media. But there is some fault. On Morning Joe, they actually discussed in earnest if Hillary would get 400 Electoral votes.
They were lowering Trumps numbers because they didn't believe it could be true. The polls are pure propaganda.
I don't think that's true. The pollsters have no reason in becoming a discredited institution. Their job is built around probability and trust. Get it wrong and they are considered worthless.
They were incorrect because they failed to identify the motivations of the very large 'undecided' group.
Mogwai786 You said "Get it wrong and they are considered worthless." So they are worthless. They admit it was all about them trying to help Hillary win. It's not their job to help anyone. They are supposed to be silent reporters of the news. They admitted removing Trump numbers because they wouldn't believe that many supported him. The polls are all meant to make you act, and they admit it. If you accept the polls you are falling for the propaganda.
MSM had a 6 percent approval rating before this, most consider them totally discredited and dishonest puppets of the establishment.
You have written a lot factually incorrect points and unsubstantiated assertions. Firstly, you say "They admit it was all about them trying to help Hillary win", without offering any evidence to support this claim. Secondly, when you say "They are supposed to be silent reporters of the news", it appears you conflate pollsters with journalists. The pollsters' job is not to "report the news", but to accurately calculate and predict political persuasions through modelling. Thirdly, the polls are NOT meant to "make you act", they are suppose to inform. Again, if they are not doing their job, then no-one listens to them - that's hardly a recipe for self-interest. Your last sentence is just a piece of rhetoric that you have failed to support.
Just canceled my subscription, to the NY Times and blocked CNN!!!! yeia!!! TRUMP TRUMP
This guy Joe finds his balls from time to time. I give him that.
Wow, hats off to Joe for this. This sums up so much of what went wrong (on the left) during the campaign.
I find it amusing that in this clip morning joe himself can´t let go of his own narrative that clinton should´ve won.