🐢 What do UnovAbout Fossil Pokemon? 🪶 Gnoggin
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- Опубліковано 26 чер 2024
- Archen, Tirtouga, Archeops, Carracosta. Those are the fossil Pokemon introduced in Pokemon Black and White... but why?
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Chapters:
00:00 The Gen 5 Fossil Pokemon!
01:43 Archen the Archeopteryx!
06:08 Sponsored by Helix Sleep
07:40 Archen and Archeops Explained!
10:25 Archeops the... Egyptian?
13:14 Tirtouga and Carracosta!
16:09 Why are the Turtles Fossils?
18:43 Toodles
This video aims to answer these questions:
Why is Tirtouga a fossil pokemon? Why is Carracosta a fossil pokemon?
Why is Archen a fossil pokemon? Why is Archeps a fossil pokemon?
What is Archen based on? What is Archeops based on? What is carracosta based on? What are archen and archeops based on? what fossil pokemon are in black and white?
We used a number of paleontology illustrations and gave credit when credit was applicable and findable. If we missed yours, shoot me an email and we'll get it all sorted. My business email is on our channel's 'About' page.
Gnoggin, hosted by its creator Lockstin, is a show delving into the mysteries of Pokemon! (and other games sometimes too). Explaining everything there is to explain! Why is each Pokemon given the type it has? What are their origins? What is the lore of the Pokemon world and the design inspirations? And what does it all have to do with alchemy? Let's Go find out! - Ігри
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Hi Lockstin.
Can you do a video about the impact abridged series has had on general pop culture?
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@@akumaking1 Abridged series? huh?
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Tortuga is one of my favorite Pokémon and when I checked my old black copy I lost my marbles looking for him. Scared I lost him to home but then I found him in the daycare lol. Love you Finn.
Tirtuga, with an "I"
I just can’t spell, it’s ok lol.
Easily my second favorite Fossil, and only because Kabutops will always be best in the class for me
"I like turtles"
@@neen2660 You only have about a year to figure out how to get him transferred to home.
"Ancient Wing" sounds like what would've been Archeops' signature move, if they were giving every Pokémon a signature move back then.
question is....would it be a rock move or a flying move?
or would this be a similar case to hawlucha's signature move Flying Press?
@@bulborb8756 I’d think it would be a two turn physical rock type move like fly mixed with ancient power
It really does
@LegoProductions Kirk silver wind is bug type isn’t it?
Now we need such a thing for Archeops in Scarlet & Violet.
Before you tell me that that would be weird Heatmor got a signature move called "Fire Lash" in S&M.
I'm surprised the navy/pirate angle wasn't mentioned for the turtles, especially given that the islands of Tortuga and Costa Rica were so important in the pirate era and the battles between the pirate fleets and the various national navy's.
Turtles are also famous for being "living fossils", like crocodiles. I suspect that's why they were chosen.
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The Dewey Decimal Archeops fact has to be one of my favoirite Pokemon facts. So glad you shed more light on it!
Shame they had to give it a detrimental ability because of it though, if its attack stat was lower they wouldn't of had to nerf it.
When its Pokédex number was revealed I saw that coincidence and added it to its bulbapedia page under trivia. It’s my one and only contribution to Bulbapedia and it fills me with pride to see it mentioned on both this video as well as False Swipe Gaming. I actually had to fight to keep it in the trivia cause one of the moderators didn’t think it was a good trivia fact.
@@Nephyte89 WOOOW!!! Good eye that’s amazing
@@cosmictraveler1146 I have loved dinosaurs my whole life. When I was 8 years old I had already finished all of the kids books on dinosaurs so my public library introduced me to the reference books and the adult section of dinosaurs books. I quickly inhaled 567.8 and 567.9 books on dinosaurs. lol I still love dinosaurs
@@bobson_dugnutt2863 *wouldn't have
Once thought to be the ancestor of all bird Pokémon, some of the latest research suggests that may not be the case.
Archen Ultra Sun.
GF also acknowledges such things. Also the G7 Pokedex is perhaps the best for the entry flavor text
SuMo/SUMU and Legends Arceus are my favorite dexes. Both have actual voices to them, which both make it more fun to read and make it easier to dismis weird entries.
@@AbsolXGuardian indeed, I like how quite often Professor Laventon will note he is not sure the entry's info is fully true, or indeed may indicate he thinks its not true.
@@Ryodraco Porygon straight-up baffling Laventon with it being all code (and Porygon-Z unsettling him with its glitchiness)
Ultra sun never said that
Said to be an ancestor of bird Pokémon, the muscles it uses to flap its wings are still weak, so it needs a long runway in order to take off.
@@bob74h67 Not only is that from Ultra Moon, not Ultra Sun, but it's Archeops' entry, not Archen's. The Ultra Sun entry for Archen is exactly how op said.
Ultra Sun Pokedex entry for Archen:" Once thought to be the ancestor of all bird Pokémon, some of the latest research suggests that may not be the case."
Looks like the retcon already happened!
I wouldn't call it a retcon yet as there is no contemporaries at the moment. Also it doesn't have to match our reality perfectly especially since those fossil pokemon are kinda a combine of all those transitory forms.
@@andresmarrero8666 Dude, the pokedex entry literally states this change so it mirrors our own reality.
look at pokemon go, thats actually kinda cool that they changed that
@@doctorplague6967 it states that they are questioning it but until another pokemon comes up and takes the spot it won't be a full retcon because nothing actually changed about the pokemon, only the thoughts surrounding it.
I was hoping someone would bring this up
One thing to note, “Troodons” are considered a defunct name since the animal was only named after a single tooth and became a basket waste taxon.
Informally paleontologists try to avoid referring specimens to the genus, but it is still considered a valid genus. Someone could quite rightfully formally move to strike it, but it hasn't been done yet.
This is a matter of debate as far as I can tell. And you can call informally "Troodons" the group of Troodontidae anyway.
They still suck/rock in ARK (which is fitting, given the game).
I had always thought the "carra" in carracosta was for carapace. Never even knew about the Carrara fossil formation but that makes the double r make sense!
There actually is a reason for Archen and Archeops to have an overwhelmingly male gender ratio outside of their Pharaoh elements. Prior to Galar, every Fossil Pokémon shared this trait, and I believe it was for the same reason as Starter Pokémon, that being to make these specific Pokémon more difficult to breed for more members of the species and thus give more impact to the events in which they are gifted to the player over the course of the game. Galar's fossils are gender unknown and in the Undiscovered Egg Group, making them unable to breed at all, but they have their own reasons, including but not limited to them essentially being the Frankenstein's Monster of Fossil Pokémon.
This is seriously very interesting! But why then GF created Ditto? With Ditto this all goes away (except obviously with Galar's fossils). I myself never bred any starter or fossil with two of the same species just because of that. And to think that GF didn't realize that is sad, because they themselves kinda didn't knew wll about their own game. :/
I think Ditto can be found in any game (with my memory bringing to me that in Ruby/Sapphire it wasn't), if not, at least in a """""difficult""""" area to access. Well... The more I dive into this the more sad I become with GF. u_u
@@Rafael_Oiticica
Ditto is always an endgame/postgame mon, and usually with low encounter rates iirc
@@Justic_ So, in this way, they can keep both players playing (those who trade and those who don't). I understand. And that still carry this "thing" that Nintendo have to please both amateur players and veteran players. Nice :)
meanwhile, gen 2, the gen that introduced breeding as a mechanic, literally let you encounter Ditto on the same route as the daycare center
@@jvbon646 Ditto has actually not always been an endgame/postgame Pokemon. So, no, you are not remember correctly. Here is the break down:
In gen 1, Red and Blue/Green, you could find Ditto on Routes 13, 14, 15, 23, and in the Cerulean Cave. Routes 13, 14, and 15 can be accessed as soon as you got the Pokeflute to wake up the snorlaxes. Which can be obtained shortly after beating the 3rd gym. Which makes it a early-mid game Pokemon in those games.
In gen 2, Gold and Silver, Ditto can be found on routes 34 and 35. These routes are north and south of Goldenrod City, meaning, you can get a Ditto BEFORE you even get your SECOND BADGE. Thus making Ditto an EARLY GAME Pokemon in Gen 2.
In Gen 3, You had to obtain Ditto in Emerald, Firered, and Leafgreen. In Firered and Leafgreen, Ditto was found in the same spots as it was found in Red and Blue, with another area added being in the Pokemon Mansion Basement. In Emerald you could catch Ditto in the Desert Underpass, which connected to Route 114, which connected to Fallarbor Town, which connected to 113, to 111, to 112 and Mauville City. Mauville City is the city you fought Watson, who is the THIRD gym leader. Meaning in Gen 3's games, Ditto was an early-mid Pokemon.
In Gen 4's Diamond and Pearl, Ditto was found on Route 218 with the Pokeradar. Which is indeed a Postgame item. This means that Gen 4 is the FIRST time Ditto is an Endgame/Postgame Pokemon.
In Gen 5's Black and White, Ditto was found in the Giant Chasm. Which, is an area only accessible after beating the Elite Four. This is the second time Ditto is an Endgame/Postgame Pokemon.
In Gen 6's X and Y, Ditto was found in both the Pokemon Village and the Friend Safari. Pokemon Village is an End Game area that you reach before the 8th Gym and the Friend Safari is in Kiloude City, which requires you to beat the story first. This is the third time Ditto is an Endgame/Postgame Pokemon.
In Gen 7's Sun and Moon, Ditto is found on Mount Hokulani, which is on the third Island you visit, and is accessible right from the get go as that is the first stop on that island. Mount Hokulani is more or less a mid game area, thus making Ditto am early-mid game Pokemon form Sun and Moon.
And in Gen 8's Sword and Shield, Ditto was found in the wild only in the Lake of Outrage. BUT! If you threw in a wishing piece into a certain Max Raid, you have a high chance at spawning in a Ditto Raid as that den's rare raids were always ditto. The area Ditto's max raid den could be found in could be accessed the moment you entered the Wild Areas, as the only thing preventing you from traveling further into the wild area, was the level of the wild Pokemon. And yes, that means you do not need to beat even the 1st gym to catch a Ditto in Sword and Shield, if you are brave that is. But, typically, you'd wait until you'd go that direction normally due to the story progression, which means, you'd normally have the first three gym badges under your belt. But, due to how early you can get Ditto in Sword and Shield, it is technically an Early Game Pokemon.
That means that Ditto is an Early Game Pokemon in 2 Gens, an Early-Mid Pokemon in 3 Gens, and an Endgame Pokemon in 1 Gen, and a Postgame Pokemon in 2 Gens.
So, your statement of "Ditto is always an endgame/postgame mon, and usually with low encounter rates iirc" is half wrong. The low encounter rate part is true though.
Just wanted to point out, that the "Carra" part in Carracostas name could also have inspiration in the French word "Carrapace" wich means "shell"
We use it in English too, especially as word for exoskeletons
Archeops is one of my favorite Pokemon conceptually, but it's stats aren't broken enough to warrant it's horrible ability. Slaking had a similar gimmick, but done better. I think Archeops would be better off with an actually functioning ability, rather than what they gave it.
Yeah, 567 is high, but nowhere near high enough for such a bad ability. Pseudo legends get base stat totals of 600 and most of them get really good abilities to go along with it
Just use one of the Cofagrigous in Singles and use Archeops, Slaking or Regigas after 😉
You can thank me later
@@youtubewatcher6124
The ability Mummy only activates on Cobtact, at which point if your Mon with Mummy is knocked out using anything that doesn't make contact, the entire strategy fails. Should they HAVE gotten the Mummy ability, and they see you switch in any of the three, though most likely Slaking / Regigigas, they can easily swap out, or in the case of Regigigas, U-Turn / Volt Switch out and completely remove Mummy from the game. Unless you're talking Story purposes, where that's very situational, and way too complicated to be all that useful, there is no way you'd pull that strategy off against someone who knows what they're doing
@@Xsor. then its a free hit for slaking which mostly ends in a KO, ofcourse you need a backup plan if you're gonna do this. I tried this in showdown many times it gets the job done
Would explain why it's extinct, though.
Upper and lower are more often than not “position relative to the core of the earth” distinctions, while southern and northern are “position relative to the equator” distinctions.
Lower Egypt, Lower Canada and the Netherlands (literally low lands in Dutch) are called that because of their low elevations. Baja and Alta California are exceptions to the rule, since neither one is higher than the other, they’re just mixed bags of elevations.
And here I thought it had to do with the course of the Nile
@@animalia5554 I mean, it's both. Rivers flow from the highest to the lowest point
All fossil Pokémon and other “rare” Pokémon like the starters and eevee have that 87/12 gender ratio to make it harder to breed them.
86.5/12.5*
Now, imagine if there was a water/ground fossil Pokémon that is said to be an ancestor of all humans, and we are actually a very weird branch of evolution.
NO YOU GOT BOTTED!! 😢
Yess and no, humans deriving from pokemon is a speculation withiut further proof and acreus can create new pokemon on the fly and has never been mentioned of making humans so humans dont share the same origins as pokemon do.
Humans are the invaders of the pokemon world
@@youtubestudiosucks978 pretty sure
Masuda? Or someone else at gamefreak said humans and Pokémon are strictly unrelated species wise
@@youtubestudiosucks978 The Japanese original of one of the Sinnoh myths states that humans and Pokémon used to be the same
@@metallipwn do i look like i got access to japanese versions of the games over the us and europe versions?
What part of the world do you think i live in?
I have an other theory for why Tirtouga is a fossil pokemon.
Because it's based on a scrapped gen2 pokemon design, thus Game Freak resurects it.
Gf reused alot of scrapped mons and they're not fossils
@@fructuous7242 which one ?
From what I know, only the gen2 used several rejected design (of the gen1 obviously).
But after there are no more (at the exception of Tirtouga), just redesign during the development (the most famous one is the Torchic line, especially with the Latios/Blaziken).
There's a scrapped grass eeveelution which became Leafeon. A fire fox which kinda looks like Fennekin's line. And a koala which looks like Komala. This bagworm/moth line which may have inspired Burmy and Mothim. Maybe Manbo, which kinda looks like Alomomola, both having similar names with Alomomola's Japanese name being Mamanbo. Evolution of Lickitung and Tangela reworked for Lickilicky and Tangrowth. And that anchor shark which kinda looks like Sharpedo.
@@fructuous7242 interesting, I did know some of them, but personnaly they're too much different from their possible prototype.
I will check for the other.
I unironically love using Archeops. It has some good stats and a decent move pool. And it is fun to spam acrobatics with. It has such a great visual design too!
Same. Defeatist is uhhh...... quirky.
too bad it has the worst ability
@@CocoLocoToco ugh, that ability really wasnt warranted for archeops because the thing is already so frail
i love how Archeops looks but that damn ability coupled with its frailty... doesn't makes me want to use it in battle at all.
Yeah I'm a big fan of it too, one of my fave mons!
On the upper/lower Egypt thing: When it comes to geography the words upper and lower *always* refer to elevation, not placement on a map. It doesn't have anything to do with people having a different understanding of cardinal directions.
These puns are rock solid! Keep up the good work!
Tbf, Turtles (and crocodiles) are some of the most unchanged species in evolution. They represent a niche so refined, so they rarely (if ever) have to change. Sort of like why crabs world wide overall look the same outside of minor differences.
A tiny fun fact about Tirtouga and Carracosta is that they're the only part-Rock-type fossils to not be primarily Rock-type (they're Water/Rock), which may lend credence to the theory that they were kind of just made into Fossils when they originally weren't (especially due to the speculation that they were originally designed much earlier, in Gen 1 or 2) ;o
I think the “Cara” part of Caracosta is referring to Carapace, or the shell of the turtle 🐢
Archen's pokedex was already retconned. At first X and Y added uncertainties: "this Pokémon is _thought to be_ the ancestor of all bird Pokémon" " *_Said to be_* an ancestor of bird Pokémon" (same with ORAS) and then Ultra Sun fixed the derp in the Sun entry of " *_It is_* the ancestor of all bird Pokémon" and went with "Once thought to be the ancestor of all bird Pokémon, some of the latest research suggests that may not be the case. " before Shield went back to the uncertainty of "Archen is *_said to be_* the ancestor of bird Pokémon"
All of them are uncertain.
"Some of the lastest research suggest that may not be the case"
"Suggest", "may", they are literally saying that it isn't certain, thus uncertainty. The *possibility* of it being modern-birds ancestor is still up in the air, the recent data just supports the other side of the argument.
Which is exactly the same that happens in real life, they can't stick to just 1 theory cuz there's always some random study that "proves" they are wrong xD
@@jvbon646 You are correct _except_ in the case of the aforementioned Pokemon Sun pokedex entry.
It's nice to have UA-camrs like you because we get to learn about Pokémon like real life animals. It's like watching NatGeo, Discovery or Animal Planet but about Pokémon.
Fun fact, apparently ancient Egyptians used to put the cartouche around names of important people in their society as a kind of protection against curses and evil wishes
Archeops could also have been based on the Microraptor, one of the first dinosaurs we actually know the color of. It’s back wings are one of the biggest we know.
Ironic that Carracosta is based on the largest turtle that ever lived, but it's a lot smaller than a real Archelon and its size is more in line with modern sea turtles. XD
true, then again somehow carracosta is able to be bipedal which....is very impressive because carracosta's modified back flipper's must have some strong muscles in them to support the weight of both it's body AND it's shell
Pokémon sizes are weird. Supposedly all Pokémon can shrink themselves down in size, so that’s my headcanon as to why the sizes we see are so weird: the Pokémon are deliberately scaling themselves up or down to be at a level that they can more easily interact with humans at
Just fyi it seems you have totally misread what "upper" and "lower" in geographical terms means.
Firstly and foremost, these are terms still used today, unlike you claimed, as seen in examples like Lower Saxony, which is more north that regular Saxony.
This is because "upper" and "lower" do not refer to north and south, but to elevation. While Lower Saxony is more northern, it has almost a complete lack elevation compared to the other Saxony, hence the naming. One look at a topographic map of Egypt and much the same can be seen.
Anyway, just wanted to share this cuz as a lower saxonian myself you really confused me lol.
If you look at the eye things arceops has under it’s eyes, you can see it closely resembles Egyptian makeup, wich is very neat!
Thank you for the throwbacks to my childhood, I've been so bored as of recent, since I really don't have much to do because I'm pregnant. So I really deeply appreciate the content 🙂
People who grew up on Gen 5 are now old enough to be pregnant, damn that makes me feel old
Really loving the facts about the Unova fossil Pokémon! I'd love to see what you think of the other regional fossils.
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Do you think gamefreak will ever let us find out genesect's origin before it was altered? I really want that. But I just don't see it happening.
Maybe in a legends game in Unova
@@MegaPokefan97
It makes more sense if they added it in the remakes or PGo
Carracosta has been one of my favs ever since Black & White. Don't know why, I know it's not superbly strong. I just love the design.
Thats cuz turtles and tortoises are cool 🐢
Ok, but why does Archeops have the defeatist ability? That always seemed weird to me.
No idea if there’s any interesting reason in it’s lore or design origin but at least from a mechanical balance perspective it may just be because they really wanted that Easter egg with the 567 stat total correlating to the Dewey Decimal number for Feathered Dinosaurs.
567 is incredibly high and it’s available not really too far into the game, so Defeatist keeps it in check a bit.
At the time of gen 5, the only Pokémon with a base stat total higher than Archaeops were legendaries, pseudo legendaries, and Slaking (which obviously has it’s own hindering ability)
The other fossil Pokémon at the time, including it’s counterpart Carracosta, all only had 495 (or 515 for Aerodactyl) and the next Pokémon even really close to 567 are Arcanine and Volcarona with 555 and 550 respectively, which are both only available post game and lore wise are sorta sub legendary Pokémon anyways
All that said, it was a bit overkill. It’s stat total was high but that was split pretty evenly amongst both it’s physical and special attack (and speed) so it’s not particularly overwhelming in either stat, and it’s defenses are still fairly low. Defeatist may have made more sense if it had a more dedicated offensive stat rather than being mixed. But I at least see where they were probably coming from when looking at the base stat total, which is probably all they were doing when adding in that Easter egg.
Lower and upper Egypt has nothing to do with concept of direction. It's describing each kingdom's respective location along the nile. Lower refers to being down river, and vice versa. You even see that in the naming of towns in the US.
12:30 Archen’s gender ratio does make sense outside of the pharaoh explanation when you consider such a population would be impossible to sustain, leading to extinction hence why it’s a fossil Pokémon. This trait of an unsustainable population due to an incredibly high male population is a trait shared by all fossil Pokémon and has been explored on the UA-cam channel Game Theory.
The archaeopteryx being the basis for Archen and Archeops makes a ton of sense, with Archeops flat out being called "Aeropteryx" in french
Also, a “red Ekans on a fat bird” is my favorite Pokémon description of any Pokémon at the moment lol
I'm sure eventually you'll get to it but I would love to see what exactly the Flygon line is based on.
Antlions
An adult antlion mixed with a dragon. Might also be a pun on “dragonfly” as it is an insect dragon. Flygon is a Ground Type though because it lives in the desert and creates sandstorms.
The Pokédex entries are pretty interesting though. Apparently Flygon is considered an elemental desert spirit, because people caught in sandstorms sometimes mistake the sound of Flygon’s wings for a woman singing. I wonder if this legend has any real world inspirations?
@@acehealer4212 that's why I'm hoping he eventually covers it, I love the way he explains things.
Antlions!
Id like to say that im loving these more focused looks at poke.on lines and cant wait to see which ones yall put out next.
Also, I wonder, is it possible that flight came about both ways? Like some species got it from the tree to tree and others got it by running and jumping. And the question should be more of which is the method of which the modern bird decends from.
Technically yes, it is possible that feathered flight evolved independently in two groups. Feather-like integuments had been popping up in different taxa, like the picnofibers (sp?) in pterosaurs, before we got modern feathers in birds. The question really lies in how likely a multiple origin model is based on the evidence that paleontologists have.
I love how this gets uploaded right when i start really liking carracosta and tirtouga
There are definitely more four winged dinosaurs/bird things, like the famous microraptor, otherwise I love all this Dino love in the Pokémon games, great job!
I like how these Pokemon were first introduced in an United States based region, but Archaeopteryx fossils have only been found in Germany.
I imagine Jurassic Park is the sole reason that Unova got fossils
And Kalos is based on France and they gave us a T-Rex and Amargasaurus which have only been found in North and South America respectively.
They didn’t really theme every pokemon to the region until sun/moon
@@TheLuckOfTheClaws even then we got things like a koala and a Clydesdale horse. The region theming in pokemon is never all that absolute.
5:42 567.9 is Fossil Reptiles, not Feathered Dinosaurs. 567.918 is Pterosauria and 568 is Fossil Birds. 500 is science and 567 is fossil cold-blooded vertebrates, birds are warm-blooded so it wouldn't make sense for them to be 567.9
It's still a neat Easter egg but not one that leads in the right direction.
A cool fun fact that might interest someone watching this video: Archosaurs are the group of animals containing birds, crocodilians, pterosaurs, and "non-avian" dinosaurs. Avian dinosaurs were theropods, and most theropods are in that "non-avian" dinosaurs group, so what gives? What's with that VERY specific qualification? Because just saying dinosaurs would be a redundancy if we still include birds in the group. All birds fall into the aforementioned theropod group of dinosaurs. Dinosaurs never went extinct.
> Pandemonium
> FFXIV Pandaemonium raid series
Amazing editor as always
I really want Lockstin to cover Final Fantasy at some point. Maybe a look into the various summons and their inspirations?
4:51
Troodon isn't a dinosaur anymore since it became an invalid genus in 2017 , because it was known from a single tooth
I think you missed something! Archen's "arch" may not exactly fully be from Archaean But also a reference to the word "archaic" which is a word for "very old"! |
Archaeopteryx is literally from the ancient Greek word for ancient which is where the word archaic comes from too... as well as the Archean eon as well (as it has a double meaning of "the beginning" as well as "very old" so it's likely just a coincidence/happy accident.
Either way this is gonna get buried most likely! I'm not too worried about it as a learned a little something new from a couple minutes of checking and I put my thoughts down; So If you're reading this thank you and I hope you have a good day/night
fun fact troodons is not a real dinosaurs it was name after a single tooth found
Amongst all of the realistic drawings and renders of dinosaurs, there is that one screenshot from ark of the Sleep Bringing murder lizard. (A.K.A the Troodon)
I love archeops so much. in my original play through of white, it carried me through the elite four and the final battle. it absolutely crushed ghetsis's taem and when ever i get the chance to i usually at least catch one. it is my favorite Pokémon ever,
I don't know if I have ever said this but absolutely LOVE your videos. Not only do you talk about one of my favorite franchises, but you also happen to make each video a history and scientific analysis that is really interesting and makes me want to learn more. I've developed a new respect for the Pokémon franchise just because of how well you break things down and create theories and assumptions that can make me intrigued. The stuff I learn in school is nowhere near as interesting as what you teach me and other viewers.
So, to that I say thank you Lockstin.
I mean, 'Upper Canada' is Ontario, while 'Lower Canada' is Qubec, despite Qubec being further north. I think it's more to do with being further up-river from the ocean in both cases more than compass directions.
A video on the Togepi line would be pretty cool. It seems like they have a whole lot going on with their designs
I saw Tirtuga and immediately went (Oh cool an Archelon pokemon" I knew exactly what it was supposed to be immediately.
Archeops is one of my favorite Pokemon (still not at the level of Piplup, but still high up there), and it's cool to hear that it's based on more than just a feathered dinosaur. The Egyptian influence is so obvious, and I'm honestly a little dumb not to notice it at first.
It’s not obvious lol if anything I think it’s a stretch
Back then, I thought that Tirtouga evolution line was based on turtles from TMNT as it takes place in NY (which is serves as inspo for Unova) and the reason why it's a fossil mon is because of TMNT comics being old (even looking from year 2010 when PKMN B&W was released, 26 years feels old which it makes this statement more sensible)
Also it does help that it evolves from quadrupedal turtle to bipedal turtle like TMNT evolved into Mutant Ninja Turtles after being exposed to mutagen.
Be cool if they did an Egypt region and they did regional forms of the bird fossils. Actually I'd love if they did legends in parts of the world we haven't seen, so many countries have really fascinating historical periods, and unique biomes that these days have just kind of blended into modern day living with a bit of cultural differences, not the totally different worlds we'd see exploring the world across time
4:43 Dino-ny-cus and Troh-wa-don
13:21 "Oh no they're just dead turtles!" Got me 🤣🤣🤣
4:16 I wasn't ready! Hahahaahhaaaahaa! 😂
I love Archen and Archeops so much! They are my favorite fossil Pokémon and just one of my favorite Pokémon in general.
16:41 pangea got me acting up
I named my tirtuga "port royal"
I like how I finished catching 5 more shinies in Legends Arceus, and now I get to finally watch this video! Thanks Lockstin!!
You know its a good day when Lockstin covers one of your favorite pokemon :)
Hi amateur vertebrate palaeontologist here! Very informative video! Most of your information was perfectly correct, however Archelon isn't in fact the largest extinct turtle we've found. That title goes to the giant side-necked turtle Stupendemys! Besides that very nice and good 👍
Ohh, the good ol Stupendemys, the real life Blastoise, i love this freaking car sized turtle kek, i wouldn't say that Stupendemys is larger than Archelon or vice versa, since it's likely that some individuals could grow in larger sizes than the ones in the fossil record, but they are still some big ass turtles :D
Archen is my favorite fossil Pokemon. I have been excited for the gen 5 fossil video for a while 💛
i usually hate sponser segments but "listen, do you have bones?" is the most blursed sentience ive ever heard
Archeops is one of my favourite gen5 pokemon. Used one in VGC 2010, and best moment was 1HKOing a Landorus that I forgot if Archeops could outrun it or not haha!
good god lockstin these puns recently are going to turn me into dust
Also great job on this, I always seem to learn a lot from these videos
11:30 You were ready to reference the Cockatrice. I could tell.
I had a tirtuga in ORAS and never ever evolved it just I few months ago I transferred Him to S&S and finally evolved him
Another cool bit of trivia surrounding the disparity between Archen and Archeops' lifestyles that...I doubt Pokemon actually intended, but I still think is cool: It resembles a proposed situation for Deinonychus' development in life!
Some paleontologists have suggested that, based on some subtle differences in the proportions of juvenile Deinonychus compared to their adult counterparts, the baby Deinonychus appear to have been adapted for an arboreal lifestyle, as opposed to the adults' heavily built, ground-dwelling adaptations. Some even argue that the juvenile Deinonychus may have been capable of limited flight (though this is debatable), which naturally they would lose as they grew older. This is thought to have been a form of niche partitioning, preventing the two growth stages from clashing when they encounter each other.
For vertebrate paleontologists, turtle evolution is VERY confusing and VERY interesting. There is a lot of hypotheses out there on just where turtles fit on the tree of life, and from my understanding, there is so much debate becausethe fossils we can identify as a "turtle-like" just sort of appeared in the fossil record, and there are few "stepping stone" fossils that can clue us into where they came from. From what I understand, the two major hypotheses for turtle phylogeny is that they are either more closely related to archosaurs (crocs, birds and dinosaurs) then they are to other reptiles like lizards, OR they are outside the group "reptile" all together, in the clade parareptiles. A lot of this has to do with the lack of holes in their skull (outside the typical eye sockets and nostrils), as well as the major question of "where did the shell come from?". Turtles are actually super fascinating from a paleontological perspective!
Turtles likely lost their other holes with time, convergently with anapsids, and their shells came from their ribs, so, yes they are more likely reptiles that lost their diapsid condition and developed som weird-ass ribs for protection
Just a random idea I had while watching. Wouldn't it be cool to have regional variants of Fossils? Like a region with a regional fossil of Tirtouga/Carracosta based on a different (Maybe more interesting) prehistoric turtle such as the weird Triassic Turtle-like creatures, or a regional Anorith/Armaldo based on some other Cambrian predator like Opabinia
Yeah I mean most Dinos basically had alternate versions of themselves just in different countries. Like T.Rex had so many relatives in other countries.
Everytime I see Tirtuga's back, I can't help but imagine it being used as a cup holder.
Probably why it's one of my favorite Pokemon from Unova.
I think Gamefreak just wanted an FossilMon to explain the darwin evolution (not the magic evolution) of turtle/tortoise Pokémon. Blastoise, Torterra, and Dredknaw lines. You can see how they could have come from the Carracosta line.
I didn’t include Torkoal because that is a huuuuuge stretch
11:27 fun fact, snakes have bumps under their scales where their ‘legs’ are vestigially.
Also, archeops has the eye of Horus mascara thing
I'm sure someone else has already mentioned this, but just to be sure, a fun fact regarding the lower/upper vs southern/northern is that the lower/upper convention is typically based on elevation. Since the Nile River flows south to north, the literal lower part of Egypt is north near the Mediterranean Sea. We see similar naming conventions in Low and High German where High German is spoken predominantly by inland people away from the lower elevation lands along the sea. Even then, as stated in the video, these conventions are often outcomes of a time before north/south being common to designate geographical relations.
12:00 Upper Egypt is south and Lower Egypt is north because the Nile flows South to North.
Great video! I had a really crappy past few days and this definitely cheered me up!🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
Carracosta's bulletproof vest plate things on its front also resemble the spiky circular plate bones on the underside of Archelon
This video is great because right now Unova and Kalos fossil's Pokemons appear through Wild Area in Sword
Hey who else noticed that at 4:51 we had all those pictures of dinosaurs that look like you would see in a book about dinosaurs and then you have an ARK:Survival evolved screenshot for the troodon lol
Yes 9 month later response
This is my favorite duo of fossil pokémon. I hope the gen 9 fossils are excellent!
Troodon isn't a thing anymore. The genus was named after a single tooth that's impossible to identify to anything, cause a lot of dinosaurs had similar teeth. Troodon didn't exist.
the steel beam gag really got me lmao
Tier-two-[tortu]ga
Next level pun
Half the reason I still love pokemon
Has preped me well for dad level humor
I’d say Archen has some Rhamphorhynchus traits, too, with its diamond tipped tail and toothy mouth. Looking forward to the Kalos fossils video!
The toothy mouth was a feature of most primitive birds, but I can agree about the tail!
@@CJCroen1393 Yep! The kind of stylized interlocking look of the teeth is why I mentioned it, but the tail is absolutely the biggest nod here.
I used Archeops in a playthrough of Pokémon Black recently, and it is a BEAST! Probably the strongest Pokémon on my team. Carracosta is awesome too, I like it. Black uses one in Pokémon Adventures.
Also 15:11 A.C.A.B.
As someone who restarted his love of Pokemon by playing Pokemon Black AND whose favorite Pokemon is Archeops, I agree wholeheartedly!
I like how Lockstin said Troodons and put an image of the video game model for the Troodon in Ark
I think one of the Archen line's Pokedex entries from gen 7 retcon it being the ancestor to birds
The title had me confused for a while but it was clever
I'd love to see a video from Lockstin with his ideas of possible new fossil lines for SV.
So excited for the gen 6 fossils Episode
Yes very good pun in the title, A+ and another great video. Brightened my dull abs Cloudy south WA weather lol
Turtles, as a group, are FECKING ANCIENT. they camae about in the EARLY triassic period, about 230 mya, while dinosaurs only really started around 205 mya.