Xenoblade: Definitive Edition Gameplay Tier List
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I was tired when putting the video footage and everything together so around 18 minutes in I must have inserted a graphic without having commentary so there's no talking for like 15 seconds so sorry about that. Regardless this has been a requested video and one I wanted to make so I could discuss all the characters and their strengths/weaknesses so i hope this ends up being useful to everyone.
Intro 0:00
Seven 1:02
Six 5:11
Five 8:49 (spoilers)
Four 10:38
Three 14:24
Two 18:15
One 22:23
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timestamps:
7: 1:02
6: 5:11
5: 8:49 (spoilers)
4: 10:38
3: 14:24
2: 18:15
1: 22:23
So what's the verdict? Am I dumb and is your favorite character actually the best?
When u open the monado (don't use any monado art ) the game count it as an aura so some things can work like aura heal ect
not sure if you know, but if you write the timestamps in the description, and write in 0:00, it turns the video timeline into chapters for easy access
I don't think Reyn shouldn't be number 1
@@corrosive_sage4479 agreed
Aww man I hoped the spoiler character was higher :c I’ll still use them
"All Monado Enchant does is allow normal weapons to affect Mechon and adds a tiny damage bonus"
"Yup"
"Everyone in the party has Machina weapons, which can damage Mechon without using Enchant"
"Yup"
"So using Enchant offers very little advantage whatsoever and is a clear waste of the Talent Gauge"
"Makes sense to me"
"Use Monado Armor"
"YOU'RE NOT INVINCIBLE"
Enchant actually provides 500 flat damage to every single hit that you can do outside of chain attack (yes, including arts, not just auto attacks) and paired with seven speed shift or soaring tempest and wordly slash, it can actually represent a good amount of damage on deadala, and 400-500 damage in mechonis when you're lvl 60ish is stupid high and help you melt mechons in no timz without any other optimization
This is why you just disable Monado Enchant
MineNAdventurer and how do u disable the manado arts?
Rotty Tops go on art set up and press plus on monado enchant to remove it
Ikaru has a point. Enchant stacks on a massive flat damage boost for every attack, which really compounds when using haste+double attack, not to mention it easily lasts longer than a minute. In total, Enchant is actually the Monado art that probably increases damage output the most (the obvious exception being chain attack-boosted Buster). Armour is pretty awesome, but don't underestimate Enchant.
The right tier list
S+: Heropon Riki
S: Bird Lady Melly
A: Sidekicks
F: Smelly Orluga reyn
Riki like fighting easy monsters
NYAPAKAPOW.
What about Dundun? He isn't just a simple sidekick, he is the Herohom!
Heropon riki BESTEST
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Skipping to the end of the video so i can see sharla at number 1
My B
You fucking legend.
Excuse me? Do you seriously think that she's the best character? I'm sorry, but she's nowhere close. Now I would not put her at the bottom personally, but she's definitely down there.
@@GuardianAngelEatos there’s something called a joke pal
@@bigyoshii And how was I suppose to know that it was a joke when I can't hear people's expression and when some people would actually think that way?
Enel: puts Riki 2nd last
"Enel you're embarrassing Riki"
i still think Dickson, Mumkhar, and Alvis are better. Being indestructible and beating Avalanche Abassay at lv1 without topple can't be underestimate
Despite being the worse character in the game, Juju is the best party member. Vanea and Otharon come close.
Spoilers!
Cleary the best party member is human Fiora, and is way better than mechon Fiora.
On top of this, Alvis has two red arts, making him better for chain attacks than Sharla, though his lack of a talent art hurts him here.
The problem Is you only get to use them 1 time each, and that 1 time is before mechonis
Jonathan Shamis Technically, Dickson is a party member for two battles.
"You have 5 seconds to pause the video"
-Gets an ad that can be skipped after 5 seconds
I like how Enel calls Break+Topple+Daze a Driver Combo even when talking about the first game
If he's using Reyn, it is a driver combo. He uses drivers.
@@boohoo723 Aegis Guarder...
@@armadillocutz4664 "A Homs? Don't make me laugh. That Reyn... HAS MADE HIMSELF THE AEGIS'S DRIVER!"
@@liamkqn *NOW ITS REYN TIME!*
Dunban has a good ai until he uses Blossom Dance on an enemy one auto attack away from death
Dunban also has the grace of not being too complicated for the AI to deal with. Spamming arts with him is actually viable, given that he wants the aggro
That's not bad AI. That's him flexing and going out in style.
It's a shame than Dunban is one of the only characters that is fine as an AI, because he's one of the only two that I enjoy playing.
@@GuardianAngelEatos This is a year late but same dunban is my favourite too play but I feel like I'm being punished for using the him since his ai is good and the others like shulk are not
@@BrentOfMan It's fine. It's not too late. We are discussing a game that is 12 years old, so It's still relevant. Haha! Yeah, Shulk using Battle Soul at the start of battle or using Monado arts at the wrong time. I think everyone that played Xenoblade 1 can agree that Melia is the worst AI in the game, and everyone that played every one can agree that she is the worst AI in the series. If you have Melia in the party, you're playing her. Her AI is so bad!
Tier list version:
S: Everyone except Sharla
A:
B: Sharla
i don't know, you placed sharla pretty high.
@@kkim5000 A, B and C are powergaps, then Sharla gets the D.
You are right
Sharla makes good support there aren’t really bad characters she just falls behind the rest
@@manbearpigsereal From Reyn
Just casually soloing Final Marcus with a level 1 Reyn in the background...
Reyn to the rest of the party:
What a bunch of jokers
I was expecting
"You can't have a rainbow without Reyn!"
Pancake-kun's Best Friend What a joker he never saw it coming.
lets not lose are heads though
I was expecting
It's Reyn time
Leave it to Reyn!
“Melia is definitely really nice” Ouch even Enel friendzones best girl.
Incidentally I would swap 3 and 2 just based on AI. I was never sad having 3 in my party but I went like a third of the game without 2 in my party.
In any other game Melia WOULD be best girl. But Fiora is just so goddamn top-tier waifu it’s hopeless for anyone else. Melia chose the wrong game to be in.
@@MarcelJ17 I'm gonna say it... Fiora worst girl... worse than Sharla... I'd pick Rikki over Fiora
Seven _
Well that’s ironic.
@@Scuuurbs how exactly?
Hi folks, just here to give you your daily reminder that Poppi QT Pi can do over 200 million damage in a single special hit with the damage cap removed
Hot
@@momol2l285 Yup
Nut
It is over 9999!!!
To emphasize how bad Shulk's AI is, I was fighting a Mechon UM that has a spike and the other two characters had Machina weapons equipped. The first thing Shulk does is use Monado Enchant instead of Monado Purge and my team ends up losing the fight despite being 10 levels higher than the UM.
It was Lightning Ronove in Sword Valley, wasn't it? That one just sucks in general.
I always control shulk in every mechonis area because of this, shulk's ai makes me want to die
AI Shulk loves to use Monado Speed randomly so he doesn’t have Monado arts when you need him to.
You really wanna know how to make Sharla even worse? Link Glorious future to her. As soon as you get a vision, she does what she always does: cool down in the middle of a dangerous moment
Honestly if they change her talent art and make her offensive art have smaller cool down, people would’ve use her more
Also link the skill that occasionally maxes the talent gauge when dealing damage for maximum Cool Off uptime.
@@brazyfever787 One of my hopes for the Definitive Edition was that they would change her talent art. Maybe remove Heal Round and Cure Round from her art list and make it so her talent art was both of these combined: a party-wide HP and debuff heal. I think it could work with a proper cooldown and some numbers adjusted.
They could also have just made side-quests to reduce how long she is on cooldown. A 1 second cooldown would be fine for her, compared to the 5 seconds. Alternatively, upgrading how much Heat her guns could handle. Or both types of quests.
This is like Eldritch Knowledge that I wished I hadn't laid my eyes upon.
Such a shame for Sharla. I actually like her as a character; her heat-to-hearts with Reyn make me smile, what can I say. If cooldown released all that built-up heat in a strong blaze attack she would be way cooler and I think much more viable.
I never finished the game on Wii, I think in part because I stuck with Shulk, Reyn & Sharla as I couldn't see how to cope without a dedicated healer. It turns out you absolutely can after about the point you get Riki. Mix it up people, the game is so much more enjoyable once you start experimenting and relinquish control of Shulk once in a while. I found way more success and fun playing as Dunban, Reyn, or Melia.
I'm actually very bad at trying other party members, but with Xenoblade, I just naturally went about experimenting. Melia, once I learned to use her, became my favorite to play as...which worked, because she's also my favorite character in the story. Dunban is also fun, as is Seven.
@@JetWarrior I agree 100% and went through the same exact experience as you
For most of the mid game whenever I had to face somethig realy strong I used the origibal trio. Mainly beacause Riki Melia and Fiora are preatty weak when you first get theam, and Shulk Reyan and Sharla have such good sinergy. Later when you start to have more options Sharla kinda fells flat or her face. But just for the fact than she carried me for the entire mid game I HAD to use her for the final fight.
Characters like Sharla have their niche. This list was compiled by someone who is very good at the game. For less skilled me on my first play through she was an absolute godsend at around the 50% mark giving me the confidence to focus on bursting down the harder enemies with DPS characters. I had basically shelved her before that.
Dunno, I think Mumkhar should be no.1
Wdym it should be Alvis
You all forget about Dickson
you all guys, are sleeping on Tyrea
I mean, Bana is pretty much the best character in the game
HOMS FIORA
Alright, Sharla time.
Both times I've played through this game Sharla has been absolutely essential throughout the early and midgame. Shulk, Reyn, and Sharla make a great chain attack party for most midgame unique monsters if you give her headshot and headshaker. In each chain attack you can break with Shulk, topple with Reyn, then combo 3 daze arts, use Shulk's talent art, then sword drive or something similar, and then headshot. Sometimes headshot even inflicts instant death which is quite nice, but it also deals really nice damage throughout the midgame.
In my first playthrough when I didn't fully grasp the game mechanics, I never would have beaten the final fight with Metal Face because everyone just killed me so fast. I tried using Riki as a healer first, but his healing was never enough. Sharla was exactly what I needed to survive long enough to beat that fight.
I get that she isn't great in the endgame, but I can't emphasize enough how crucial of a crutch she is to new players who aren't running optimal builds. I imagine the majority of new players will keep using her because in many JRPGs you always have a healer. It just feels wrong that she gets so much hate when I can't imagine beating this game blind without her.
Yeah I guess when you're not optimal she's pretty important
I myself used her in Satorl Marsh trying to defeat the Igna unique monster in his throne and all of his boys at the same time. Quite a challenge.
I agree with this. Even as someone who understands all of the intricacies of party set ups, I still find myself using Sharla in my party without much of a bad effect on my general performance. I had the AI on her for the boss against the Telethia and Tyrea in the High Entia Tomb and made it through that boss on my first try. Same for a boss later in the game (I'm pretty sure you know who the later boss is but for spoilers sake I'll call it Face Mechon in Agniritha).
Yeah I find a lot of these guides are way more focused on the post-game superbosses rather then realistically through the early and midgame. Sharla is objectively 6th early game with Riki slowly beating her out slightly in mid-late game when you're going through mechonis.
Idk man I was like 12 when I played the original and I ditched Sharla right away as soon as I got Dunban, and managed to beat the game without any difficulty. The only boss that ever gave me trouble was Lorithia but that’s like a rite of passage at this point. Light heal got the job done
Heropon Riki sharla is actually such a crutch for me.
I think it demonstrates how well balanced the characters are that even the bottom tier characters on this list are relatively useable. Only character I really wish Monolith Soft had changed was Sharla, she completely just gets the short end of the stick
Yeah, just remove the dumb cool-off mechanism and she's still probably bottom of the list but so much better and, more importantly, so much more fun to actually use.
Siddharth Venkatesh I feel like a super headshot could work for her talent art if cool off got removed.
Too bad xenoblade 2 didn’t do this
Zeke is useless without eye of shining justice
Tora sucks unless you spend hours on that dumb mini game
Morag literally needs to have rex for maximum damage and it still sucks
Nia is better with rex
Rex literally at all times far surpasses everyone, which sucks cause I hate him. Why is rex so stupidly more viable than everyone else.
@@firenze6478 Don't forget that you could just spam the same art over and over again with Mythra's ability which no one else can get
Ryful Z3 yeah rex was really imbalanced and basically forced to be on you’re team especially since you can’t even get max damage from brighid without mythra, that sucked
The best part about not putting melia on the bottom 3 is that this gives us an opportunity to stick a middle finger to ign’s review on how melia is one of the weaker characters, and thus deserves a much lower score >:)
I swear Melias AI has been majorly improved in DE because for me she seems to use her force topple quite often and never holds on to elementals. Like she plays really good on the AI in my playthrough.
I think you're right, although if you get low health she still seems to be more likely to keep the elements for the buffs.
I'm late to this party but I'm pretty sure the reason your Reyn guide has low views it's because even a beginner like me can easily see his viability. The tools he has available are very straightforward and it makes him easy to use effectively even if you don't understand the ins and outs. Tank? Burst damage? Topple lock? Or a mix. Great character for sure
How to fix sharla: cool off talent art now has the same effect as her aura drive boost. Drive boost art replaced with a red art that inflicts a debuff. I’d use her then.
I pretty much expected Sharla at low tier but I think it really says something when the lowest tier character can take out a superboss pretty easily.
I find it interesting that Reyn is basically good in the same way that QTpi is, and shares a similar party role: the meat tank that a lot of players ditch in favor of the blink tank for being less resource-intensive, but comes to be the strongest party member through having extreme burst damage and unmatched skill at Topple locking.
The heropon may be number 6 on the list, but he will always be number 1 in our hearts.
Man I haven't watched yet but I guessed for fun. Looks like I only messed up one placement:
7: Sharla
6: Riki
5: Seven
4: Melia
3: Shulk
2: Dunban
1: Reyn
I've been trying to level up everyone else's affinity through sidequests, combat related to sidequests or random shit
(along the way to completing said horrifying amount of sidequests) so I've only controlled Shulk maybe like an hour
out of the last 25 hours of gameplay. Forgot how much shit he can do when he's not controlled by a janky AI lmaooo
It’s reyn time
Haven't watched yet, is he number 1?
Edit: it's Reyn time baby
It's always reyn time
Its shulk time
Glorious Future Sharla must be 0th place.
Sharla would actually be much more useful if you could just use cool off in a chain attack. It would help with the multiplier and she could cool the rifle off without taking the risk of being vulnerable while the opponent is attacking
When Enel spoils the party member in Melia's bit
Reyn is also my favorite. He's just so reliable with his insanely powerful arts, his aggro raising abilities, his topple to daze combo, and his great defense and HP stats. Also, I just love his personality, character arc, and implied relationship with Sharla.
70% aren't subscribed, ummm why aren't you? Enel is the best.
We need to get to 69, come on people!
Poppi QTPi, and she’s not even in the game.
All jokes aside, my favorite character to control is Dunban. I guess I just never really utilized Reyn well enough
Reyn is kinda intimidating with all the move options
Sharla: F tier in terms of fun(my opinion) Broken rifle challenge: S tier meme
Does the "S" stand for "Sharla"?
I never properly appreciated Reyn as a fighter during my initial Wii playthrough (in which I was pretty dang bad at the combat in general), and only really got a hang of him when I played Future Connected and Nene became my go-to party leader. Now I really get why you have him as #1! I'm really, really enjoying your content, Enel, and am definitely gonna check out your in-depth character videos to get an even better idea how to use everyone!
Something to note, DoTs will have their timer reset if the enemy is hit with the same type of DoT art. As such, Melia and Riki have a very strong Synergy, where Melia unloads high damage dots, and Riki sustains them until she can reapply. Riki's AI will usually do this by mistake consistently since it spams his ether arts
You are my goto guy when it comes to this series my man.
Also; technically when you activate the Monado and open up the Monado Arts pallete, it does count as an aura. Basically useless Aura, but still an Aura.
Giving my man Reyn the spotlight he deserves! He's very underrated in my opinion.
Fiora is surprisingly low. I've seen people claim that she's the best character in the game, so it's interesting to see her in the bottom half of the list.
Melia right in the middle is great in my opinion. If AI Melia was as good as Player Melia she would be best character no questions asked, but since her AI is worse than Sharla's Talent Art, I think her placement is good.
I've noticed that you mainly talk in the context of time attack and superbosses, which is fine, since those are by far the most difficult in the game and as such differences in character performance become more noticeable. Reyn specifically becomes a god in time attack, as you said.
If we're looking at the entire game the list probably wouldn't change that much. Sharla would still be bottom tier, Fiora would still be bottom half since she isn't around for half of the game and Shulk would be above Reyn since player controlled Shulk is just necessary during early- to midgame Mechon and Telethia fights (which there are a lot of).
Overall, great list, wouldn't change anything to be honest.
Melia ai’s isn’t bad in my opinion
I think if we talk about the overall game not just Superboss/time attack Riki would place much much higher, his cheer utility and support makes him really good throughout the game he really only fall from grace due to the lack of damage endgame.
Riki would be higher on my list and so would Melia , but he does have fair counterpoints
Nesouk Kefka not even endgame, riki is the best until postgame superbosses
After thinking about it a bit I do agree that Riki would be higher in a list about performance throughout the entire game. I would place him above Melia and Fiora actually.
I think that Dunban, Reyn and Shulk still have him beat though.
When talking about the entire game Melia would place a lot lower on the list, she's just awful when you get her. Only when she gets Starlight Kick and Earth/Ice does she become amazing, but by that point you're almost at the Fallen Arm, so she's about as useful as Fiora, but Fiora's AI is better.
This would be my list based on the entire game:
1. Shulk
2. Reyn
3. Dunban
4. Riki
5. Fiora
6. Melia
7. Sharla
I absolutely have an amazing time using any party members.... Except from Sharla. Seriously, the only "complain" I have with this game is that the party members are so fun to use and watch, but I have to pick only 3 every time. My battle preparation screens take so much time. XD
I think Dunban having the input prompt Talent Art (Blossom Dance) felt really unique pre-XC2. But wish in XC2 the driver and blade would shout a mantra like Dunban, at least at III or IV.
I subscribed! Your Fiora video made it an easy decision because you opened my eyes to some things i didn't consider. You have a great channel and this video is great as well.
To compensate for Dumban's HP I remember one character (Sharla or Melia I think) has a passive that you can share that restores some HP whenever you crit. Used with his 100% crit art this actually gives him the fastest self-healing ability in the game.
w00t! Agreed! Reyn time!
One thing players need to realize is that endgame optimization revolves around taking out monsters as fast as possible. This allows them to attack less and prevent them from putting you in a bad position. If the monsters get momentum, you'll be forced to use heals, forced to get close to allies to wake them up or encourage them, etc.
What Reyn provides is a very potent burst damage which gets you closer to the fast kill goal.Most bosses just fall to this one combo alone. I like running Back Attack Plus on him as that makes his burst damage even more disgusting. At the start of battle, using berserker let's other party members go in and take initial aggro, which allows Reyn to go backside and follow with the Magnum Charge to Sword Drive combo. If the AI somehow managed to inflict any physical defense down debuff along with Dundun's Peerless, it's glorious to see Reyn's burst damage number. From there he usually takes aggro and makes Back Attack Plus useless, but the monster should either be down or close to it at that point that it doesnt matter that much anymore. :)
Thanks again Enel, always love your insight and knowledge. Your passion for the game shows in all of your videos.
My tier list:
S+: Every Party member except Sharla (including temporary party members)
F: Sharla
Rex now is is now without a doubt a possibilty for smash lets go!
He already kinda was since fighter pass 2 was announced, still I'm holding out for KOS-MOS myself haha. I won;t care either way though, I'm not a big smash fan
How fucking cool would it be to have a Duo Rex/Pyra and the switch mechanic. Holy shiiiit
@@planetary-rendez-vous With a *Switch* mechanic. It practically writes itself!
If we do get Rex, I really hope he can switch between Pyra and Mythra and that changes up his moveset. Actually, throw Roc in there as well, why not. Maybe he could have a Blade wheel similar to Shulk’s Monado. Pyra could do the lowest damage but apply a burn effect, Mythra would have a similar moveset but hit harder, and Roc could completely change up Rex’s moveset.
I would like to see Rex but I’d personally prefer Elma. Gotta get that XCX representation eventually!
Minmin proved that spirits don’t deconfirm
Nice list~ Except for Fiora’s placement, I wasn’t too surprised with your placements after seeing each of the character guide videos.
Damn Juju is so bad he isn’t even on the list
lol
ive had some incredible experience with the ai in de, far more than others report. ive seen reyn (on ai) consistently berserk, magnum charge, sword drive, or melia on ai set up for devastating chain attacks, or just wreck final marcus' shit solo
shulks pretty bad though.
like
absolutely atrocious
Battle Soul! Monado Busta! Oh, a vision!
Players: It's time to stop! It's time to stop, okay?
Shulk: I'm really feeling it!
Players: ...
Haha jokes on you my favorite character is Reyn! Wait how would that be... This is a great video! This series has really helped me improve my combat strategies, so thank you.
Your guides are absolute top tier mate. Subscribed
I really liked playing as Melia a lot this past playthrough. I like the fact that Starlight Kick can topple the enemy without breaking them first, it really speeds things up if you open with it.
My go-to team was Melia, Reyn, and Dunban, and I found it to be pretty fun.
Just watching out for new people avoiding spoilers. The 7th party member is spoiled when enel goes through the menu in the sharla section of the video at 3:55.
You say that shulk doesn't have access to any auras but, according to the help thing that tells you about status effects, clicking on his talent art gives him an aura called "monado activated" which is the thing that lets him monado arts. Idk if this works with aura boosting skills or if there is any relevant aura skill but it's just something I noticed while playing.
I love how I dodged using reyn as much as possible during during my playthrough and would never give up on using sharla, even during the post-game:)
Appreciate the videos. Subscribed. Would you consider doing a video on the most effective team set ups? I feel like team differences can be bigger than individual character tiers.
Thanks so much for the tips, I'm gonna go build a team of Sharla/Riki/Seven now, of course with Riki in the lead
Great content sir. Can i request for a party setup where you explain who is your main character and how do you setup the A.I. properly in terms of skills, arts.
So I finally got around to super boss hunting and with the help of these guides I had a really good set up going in and a game plan. The first 3 went down like nothing, blizzard’s topple spike really messed me up so that took a few tries and i just scraped the win, which had me worried for the last one. But I beat avalanche abbasey in one try by just completely shutting him down, even had a 15 link chain attack at one point. He got one art off and none of his auras. Back in the original I only ever beat the last two by hiding behind crystals but now I beat the toughest like it was nothing. And it’s all thanks to your channel so thank you so much, as far as I’m concerned there is no unsubscribe button 👏
When I look at characters 7-2:
"What a bunch of jokers!"
Now It's Reyn time
Fun fact: Sharla is S tier in a "No damaging combat arts" run. I also am a Masochist, unrelated.
Nice video. Tier lists are always going to be subjective. For myself I would place Melia and Shulk equal first place for DE because they are the most intricate characters to play in the main game (others can be well enough controlled by the AI), and they are also the main characters of the new Future Connected story. Not mentioned in the video, but Melia is very viable for endgame in a more topple-team setup for the Superbosses with more defensive gear/gem setup and her Spear Break/Starlight Kick arts (which work very efficiently at level 12) in addition to DoTs.
Great video. I learned a lot from you!👍🏻👍🏻
For Sharla's talent art, Enel makes it clear that it would be nearly impossible to let anyone die. It might not have been necessary as there are other ways to gimp her healing abilities, but they just went with the cooldown talent art.
They couldve just increased the cooldowns of her skills more, so they can give her a more useful talent art instead. At the very least anything that does something good in a chain attack to contribute to dealing damage and increasing chain attack multiplier.
Maybe something like "Talent Art: Pinpoint Weakness - makes sharla immobile and unable to act for a few seconds but great increases team's critical hit chance and critical attack damage for the duration. Or as a single turn action in a chain attack that provides the same buffs until the chain attack ends so she can join and benefit from her buffs just until the end of that chain attack." This can gimp her healing, allow her to deal damage through other active party members, and gives her a decent reason to participate in chain attacks. Just a thought that i think would be cool to share.
I'd love a video where you mention what we should do before starting "New Game +" :3
It’s a really strong party of characters cos even though Sharla is obviously the worst she’s still a really great healer for most of the game and if you play it safe she’s an anchor on most teams alongside a character to draw aggro and one to deal the damage
Interested in seeing what you think is the best to worst character AI wise, it'll help for regular playthroughs that aren't focused on challenge mode/superbosses
sharla, melia, and shulk all have pretty bad AI. Fiora, Dunban, And Riki AI are all decent enough. Reyn AI is good as a veey traditional tank but not super great at using all his damage optimally.
@@EnelXC That's honestly pretty close to what I was thinking, thanks for the quick response!
Nice video! I enjoyed it all the way through.
My issue with Reyn (Rain xDDDDDD) is that he needs many prerequisites to achieve the Magnum Charge Sword Drive combo; as in having Duncan around for Peerless.
My other issues is that he is terrible at building the Party Gauge and using Magnum charge in Chain Attacks is very difficult.. I could have already finished the chain attacks and killed the enemy as Melia in the time that it takes me to figure out how to best activate Magnum Charge in a chain attack.
......Who are we kidding? All these characters are secondary to best Heropon Riki xD
Did someone say party gauge? *war swing intensifies*
@@lpfan4491 I get what you mean, but Dundun's Soaring Tempest is kinda.. better. Couple it with Heat Haze and he is a chain bar building machine.
In my playthrough, I thought for sure Melia was the best character in the game just because arts were the only ones that could actually hit the lv.90+ enemies during endgame; she's also by far the best character in chain attacks. I wasn't aware of night vision gems so I thought everyone else, especially Reyn, just weren't as good.
My list would've been:
1. Melia
2. Fiora
3. Dunban
4. Shulk
5. Riki
6. Reyn
7. Sharla
Enel, bro you read my mind with these videos, and i don't even know i want them.
Reyn can do WHAT?
Honestly this is my favorite game of all time, but I haven’t dabbled in the “make your characters busted” aspect of it, so this is all very new to me! Now I want to find auto-attack break things to solo as Reyn now 😂
Fiora, Riki, and Dunban is a versatile party for me (I'm level 78, near the end of the story mode). Dealing with enemy talent arts is difficult though.
I also want to add for Shulk that you can start with a full talent art gauge every battle by using Battle Soul from afar, then stopping the battle and doing it over again. You can do the same with Dunban too.
I love how when talking about Reyn he´s just topple loking Marcus
"You have 5 seconds to pause the video without being spoiled"
*5 second ad starts*
Me: suspicious
Ah damn early to an Enel vid? Hell yeah
Great Job on the vid! I agree with most of the rankings. The real question is when are the FC guides?
lol fc isn’t different enough IMO
@@EnelXC I agree with you, but let's be real. You could make a 3 hour guide on Kino EZ
Its been a while since I've played, just got Melia where I left off and I love using Dunban but he suffers for now in that I don't have access to equipment for gems or really good equipment in general so he doesn't hold aggro well at all, but i know he'll get some eventually
Reyn missing Wild Down in the B Roll for Dunban hurt my soul...
Hmmm... I learned 5 seconds is longer than i thought when theres just nothing happening lol. Great video
Random question: does highlighting a skill tree for a character activate all unlocked skills for them? For example shulks bravery tree is highlighted he gets access to his own skills from that branch?
Just completed the game fully for the first time. Looking to figure out what to do next (After the extra story content). Looking for advice, should I grind it out and play more of my cleared file? or Go NG+. Im wanting to eventually gett max affinity with everyone so i can see all the heart to hearts and such xD Thank fam!
Next video would be interesting if you show us how to unlock all the extra skill trees.
I could watch you kill superbosses all day. It’s so satisfying.
Watching your video I learned a lot about Xenoblade thanks honestly now I'm not sure if Melia is best. I think it may actually be between her, ryn and Dunban. If I was to say who's the best based on what you said I'd honestly say Dunban his evasion sounds completely broken and his talent art is so good. Oh and shulk could also be a contender for the best based monado armor alone, which I'm still pissed I sold instead of learned :/ I'd put Sharla as the worst, for sure riki is so much better at healing and a lot else.
Love the tier list man.
How would you rate characters if not on just pure end game utility but also taking into account their contributions throughout the game (under the assumption that you are always around or slightly below enemy level)? I think Riki has a ton of utility in the mid game that sort of goes away by the end when you have skills unlocked to allow very reliable chain attack strategies and party gauge/talent gauge control. I'm also hoping they eventually add a Bringer of Chaos style difficulty upgrade or a challenge mode that's actually a challenge rather than just time attack, the end game feels a bit too easy at the moment.
Another awesome video
Just one thing... you mention the seven name on the Melia Section
but besides that, good job as always #team30percent
hard to always be perfect when discussing characters
@@EnelXC Don't worry... to be honest, if the person is watching your guides, I think its already very known fact
Very good video as always!
Love this guides. Finally someone who knows what he is talking about.
Mild criticism: You should try not to repeat yourself too often. You are extremely knowledgeable about this game and how to play but it feels like you missing the structure to keep these short and informative. Not that I don't like elaborate explanations tho.
So I know you put in timestamps for the party member number 7, but in your footage of Sharla you show the parry screen with all the characters lol.
After 3 comes out I can't wait for the class tier list
Can you edit AI abilities at all? I'm confused how to get topple-locking to work w/o being able to control your allies
I played the original back in 2013, and people on forums were saying that Reyn was the worst, but I actually couldn't beat the final boss until I swapped out for Reyn. I believe I had Shulk, Reyn, and the medic.
I have a question, with melia's elements, if you summon the same element more than once do you get their passive buffs multiple times?
You forgot what, in *my* opinion at least, may be Riki's *greatest* advantage: HE IS LOOT GOD.
Seriously; you want to farm loot? Use Riki; ALWAYS use Riki.
My list is similar but I have dunban over shulk just because of the AI. I basically always have to play as shulk when playing a tougher enemy. Also I love reyn but I think in the mid game he's not the best and gets outclassed by dunban for tanking but when he starts going for damage then that's when he gets really good.
Thanks to that bit at the beginning I realized I wasn't actually subscribed despite watching your Xenoblade content for almost a year now