If you plug it in a solver, they’ll usually say multiple plays are fine. You can call here or raise. There’s not always one correct answer, but there are clear wrong answers
Just a heads up to everyone, I will be posting as I can but headed to Pitt next week to check out the bot challenge. Will do some content there. If you want to follow along with what Im up to I will be posting on Instagram + Instagram Stores - DougPolkPoker
Shoving must be a way to abuse the bot no? For example if you play 1000 hands standard and then shove 90%+ hands pre/post flop the algo might take some time to average out your new playing style (develop a trend) and might just fold out unless it has premium holdings worth calling an all-in (minimal likelihood). If you find out how long it takes the bot to develop a new trend in your play style you can abuse it for trendlength-1 and then go back to standard play and repeat.
Same AI program vs same AI program I would think would end up with eqeual stacks after an infinite # of hands. This is why human players try to deviate their play styles to not be predictable. So I would assume the way an AI would be programmed would be part "I know how to play standard...pot odds etc" and part "I know how you play given hand history". The second part would be the edge and this reading of the other player would have to be able to adapt relatively quickly to changes in an opponents behaviour to prevent the bot from behind exploited...I just don't think it could adapt very quickly especially if you limit the amount of times you let the bot see your cards at show down. If I were Doug I'd record the hands the went to showdown (hands the bot would be 100% confident in how the hand played out - where the bot heavy weighting will be on its perception of Doug) and get an idea of how the bot think doug plays. For example if every time Doug got to showdown and had the nuts he called called and went all in...if would have basically taught the bot to fold - giving him good odds on a bluff line in a later streak. I think a call and turn all-in the bot wouldn't read as much into and would be less of a bluff line for doug on a future hand.
It honestly wouldn't be that interesting imo. I think most of Doug's viewers have better things to do than watch him slap around some fake pro for a couple hours.
Thank you for posting these videos. My MTT play has gotten WAY better since I started watching, but I was getting lost as the crowd thinned at the final table. Looking forward to putting these tips into action...
dude.....i donno how much will this comment impress you (or if you.ll even see it), but I really look up to what u are doing with ur life because it looks like u are really enjoying it (i.m not talking about "everyone.s dream" of living easy by playing poker or stuff like that, but how u are doing exactly what u like: being good at something - poker and streaming - and trying to share ur knowledge). GG :)
respect for showing your numbers Doug... you didnt have to but you did, so thanks, specially from us mere mortals who play low stakes, the thought of losing 1000$ makes me wanna cry, let alone 100K in 1 hand lol...
That hand with Sauce. I put him on exactly 65o. I thought maybe 65 diamonds, but then I thought he'd probably get it in on turn with that hand, so the line he took... only 65 made sense. People take the lead and jam rivers like Sauce did with missed draws. Calling a hand with ace high on that flop and turn, then jamming ace river didn't make sense. I like Doug's read and great call there on the river with KT. My mind was blown with Doug's amazing Pokertracker results as well... way to go Doug!
Me too, I snapped it. There are 119 straight draws alone, and he rarely has a non ace pair here like Doug said. Pretty clear call with the price and the read, and the hand. It looks like he is trying to make it look like he is repping the ace with his c/c, c/c line. 56 is also more likely than other draws because it's a mandatory lead as played to get hands like T high, 9 high, and 7 high to fold, and he can still put US on a draw. Admittedly (at least I think), if Doug had opened the hand up with a darker, more disappointed voice, I likely would of felt differently about the hand as it went to the river because of subliminals, and would of assumed he lost with the call. Regardless, if he had a set, you and I would be trying to defend Doug with the call with king high in the comments, and would be told we were exploitable stations, calling too often, etc, or worse, "he is never bluffing here".
but high stake pros have polarized ranges, they mix shit up every now and then to not be obvious if this is a line he would take with draws and bluffs he has to take the same line with some two pairs and sets as well even some aces.
I did the math on your results. I'm 92.7% confident that you will see this same level of profits in the long run so scientifically you're a break even player
I think he is referring to the team behind the last AI vs human challenge in heads up no limit declaring the slight loss a statistical draw. Could be wrong though.
Can you do a dumbed down version where you get straight to the main points? I’m too new to be following these charts and shit. Not much HU content out there for beginners seems like. Thanks Doug.
good stuff. I bet and hope you are planning a brains vs ai summary video. here is another idea: several shorter poker hands, same video, of tough spots for the humans vs the bot. what would be really interesting here is some of the unorthodox spots like when the bot is 2-5x ing the pot on the turn and river.
I don't even need to watch this video, I am already sure it's great as always, so thumb up and shout out for my favourite youtuber and - allegedly - future vloger! KEEP IT UP, DAN.
yo doug, really love your content in the last few months. I was just wondering when or how often you stream heads up nl? cause i would love to see you play more (i've already watched all of your youtube vids on henl and loved them). cheers.
A friend and I were playing heads-up texas hold-em. She had $21 left in her stack. I had $229. The blinds were $16/32 and she had the button and therefore had the small blind. She put in her $16 small blind and I put in my $32 big blind. She saw her cards and then pushed all-in with her remaining $5. She claimed that I was required to put in an additional $5 so that I'd have $37 invested into the pot even though she was all-in for a total of only $21 invested. She claimed that if she won the hand, she would get my $37 even though she had only begun the hand with a total stack of only $21. I disagreed and said that the most she could win from me was only $21 and that I'd be entitled to have the excess above and beyond my $21 "call" returned to me. She insisted that I would forfeit the full $32 big blind plus the additional $5 she had "raised" to go all-in. Who is right and who is wrong?
Dude i swear the face you are making in the thumbnail is the embodiement of destroying someone heads up. Litterally how i feel is written on your face haha.
Hey Doug. If you are playing tens of thousands of hands against these people and consistently winning why do they not stop playing you and find a softer opponent? Is it that they feel they have an edge and have just been unlucky or that they are trying to win back what they lost? Or does it take that many hands to realise this in the first place.
You know Doug, I love your content, especially hands review of other players hands. But did you really have to put pocket AA in one of your most memorable heads up games?
WTF ? A month ago you had 33k Subs and now almost 52k. Keep going Doug !!!!!! Also, please make a funny video again roasting people, they are amazing !!!
hello, I love this vídeo. I also have a really simple question: in the first hand, why he (Sauce1234 ) "is not gonna have a hand like A 9"? He can't cbet top pair flop and check call 2nd pair turn, if he knows that You will float sometimes boards like 9 4 3 s d d? Can you or somebody talk a little more about this? Please! I am a really fan of your work! Thank you
See more? Are u fking kidding me coach? This was just soooooooo nice! High level right? This is so pretty and i am really grad for you be opening your life to us. I finally made my UsP subscribe and i am enjoying it alot. Ty one more time for everything. You are the best!
Doug, dawg. I have a 13:37 question for you. Why are you saying that he can not have A9 there? Is it because of the 3bet range you put him on? Or the flop and turn plays? Thanks
Doug, when do you intend to get back to high stakes hu? Would u ever recommend low stakes hu on ps? Feels like the rake is so brutal, dont u think? Love u - no homo
Hi Doug so if I understand this video right. You have won 3.5 million in 6 years but by looking at who you had your biggest wins from all that 3.5 million came from 6 players. So basically if you didn't play at those stakes and with those players you would be break even or losing Heads up ?? What am I missing ? thanks
@dougpolkpoker I want to buy the course of headsup , but I'm afraid of one thing: Nowadays the sizes bets are different, continuation bets are usually small, and I realize that you have adhered to this strategy some time ago, this could be something bad that would leave the course outdated ? Thank you
Do you think HUSNG Turbos is a good way to make money and also become better at the game in 2017 Doug? Im looking for a pokerform that allows one to become a lot better but also make reasonable amounts of money(at least 2-3 K$ a month) HUSNG any good?
If you fold to 3bets 50% of the time, isn't that a pretty big leak? I can just 3bet you to 6bb every hand and only need to win a very small proportion of the hands where you call? Am I missing something? Thanks
Alot of pros are talking about blockers, like if u have K9, u block AK. Can you really take that into concideration when playing or is that too dangerous? Because then i think, Yeah i block AK so now they dont have it. Any thoughts?
Mackinator You think, I have a K, so it's LESS LIKELY they have a K. I typically calculate in my head how many combinations of value/bluffs the other player has, so if I didn't have a K, AK (for example) would have 16 combos, but now it only has 12 (3 Kings and 4 Aces). I would say that making decisions only because you have a blocker is dangerous. Blockers help you the most if there are 3 to a flush on the board (let's say 3 clubs), and the other guy moves in. If you have the ace of clubs in your hand (but nothing more), you might call because a lot of guys only move in with flushes that have the A (nut flushes), and you block that.
Doug Polk talking publically about strategy. What a time to be alive.
Doug's logic on everything:
a.) This move is fine
B.) This move is also fine as well
Sometimes you have to check, raise and fold simultaneously.
All in with 2 7 off UTG to balance your range.
@@erikseidler793 wtf.
If you plug it in a solver, they’ll usually say multiple plays are fine. You can call here or raise.
There’s not always one correct answer, but there are clear wrong answers
@@elyastoohey6621 robots we are playing now days ^
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Just a heads up to everyone, I will be posting as I can but headed to Pitt next week to check out the bot challenge. Will do some content there.
If you want to follow along with what Im up to I will be posting on Instagram + Instagram Stores - DougPolkPoker
As a heads up - I see what you did there...
Doug Polk Poker will you join forces with Ike, Sauce and Jungle to rematch the bot if it wins?
Shoving must be a way to abuse the bot no? For example if you play 1000 hands standard and then shove 90%+ hands pre/post flop the algo might take some time to average out your new playing style (develop a trend) and might just fold out unless it has premium holdings worth calling an all-in (minimal likelihood).
If you find out how long it takes the bot to develop a new trend in your play style you can abuse it for trendlength-1 and then go back to standard play and repeat.
Christopher Arksey
Good point. It would have to be good AI to catch on quickly enough.
Same AI program vs same AI program I would think would end up with eqeual stacks after an infinite # of hands. This is why human players try to deviate their play styles to not be predictable.
So I would assume the way an AI would be programmed would be part "I know how to play standard...pot odds etc" and part "I know how you play given hand history". The second part would be the edge and this reading of the other player would have to be able to adapt relatively quickly to changes in an opponents behaviour to prevent the bot from behind exploited...I just don't think it could adapt very quickly especially if you limit the amount of times you let the bot see your cards at show down.
If I were Doug I'd record the hands the went to showdown (hands the bot would be 100% confident in how the hand played out - where the bot heavy weighting will be on its perception of Doug) and get an idea of how the bot think doug plays. For example if every time Doug got to showdown and had the nuts he called called and went all in...if would have basically taught the bot to fold - giving him good odds on a bluff line in a later streak. I think a call and turn all-in the bot wouldn't read as much into and would be less of a bluff line for doug on a future hand.
I challenge you to play me heads up! I will show you who the real bad reg is!
Jason Mercier .|.
is that really u? ;-)
fake idiot's
Donald Trump I also know that you dont want to legalize online poker! You will never get me alive
Jason Mercier
When I play poker, I'm usually all loosey goosey, having a sandwich.
:o You can't be all loosey goosey, having a sandwich!
Hoo baby!
That's the nuts!
But don't forget: Everything you do at the table conveys information. lol
This aged like fine wine.
Are you related to Dan Polk?
dammit
So it begins
Great pod yesterday, that Marc Klang story is unreal.
Thanks for being so open with your figures, Doug.
HU match between Doug and Dan Bliz! Make it happen!
yes yes yes
Pyrochaos That would be epic. Dan is a an underrated heads up player. but Doug us world class and would clean up under 1200 hands.
Yes!
Pyrochaos Doug would fuck him up
It honestly wouldn't be that interesting imo. I think most of Doug's viewers have better things to do than watch him slap around some fake pro for a couple hours.
Thank you for posting these videos. My MTT play has gotten WAY better since I started watching, but I was getting lost as the crowd thinned at the final table. Looking forward to putting these tips into action...
Man, so many great points the first time I just watched this - I gotta watch this again. Thanks again for sharing games & info /vanish
Doug polk in a nutshell:
I think both checking, folding and raising have a merit here and I dont mind either way. *Troll face*
the point is that you are supposed to play a mixed strategy.
proceeds to go all in every hand
I want to see Doug coach Dan Polk to play Heads Up against Dan Bilzerian!!!
7:10 "Side-Saddled Off Some Money"
Bang Bang!!!
LOL
Sun headline based on this video: "UA-camr" Dan Polk says he can beat anyone in one on one basketball
dude.....i donno how much will this comment impress you (or if you.ll even see it), but I really look up to what u are doing with ur life because it looks like u are really enjoying it (i.m not talking about "everyone.s dream" of living easy by playing poker or stuff like that, but how u are doing exactly what u like: being good at something - poker and streaming - and trying to share ur knowledge).
GG :)
Thanks for this Doug, my inner HSNL nerd is very happy right now :)
"Side saddled off some money", best line on the internet today.
u are best heads up player and u are a very good youtuber keep up the good work doug ;)
respect for showing your numbers Doug... you didnt have to but you did, so thanks, specially from us mere mortals who play low stakes, the thought of losing 1000$ makes me wanna cry, let alone 100K in 1 hand lol...
That hand with Sauce. I put him on exactly 65o. I thought maybe 65 diamonds, but then I thought he'd probably get it in on turn with that hand, so the line he took... only 65 made sense. People take the lead and jam rivers like Sauce did with missed draws. Calling a hand with ace high on that flop and turn, then jamming ace river didn't make sense. I like Doug's read and great call there on the river with KT. My mind was blown with Doug's amazing Pokertracker results as well... way to go Doug!
Me too, I snapped it. There are 119 straight draws alone, and he rarely has a non ace pair here like Doug said. Pretty clear call with the price and the read, and the hand. It looks like he is trying to make it look like he is repping the ace with his c/c, c/c line. 56 is also more likely than other draws because it's a mandatory lead as played to get hands like T high, 9 high, and 7 high to fold, and he can still put US on a draw. Admittedly (at least I think), if Doug had opened the hand up with a darker, more disappointed voice, I likely would of felt differently about the hand as it went to the river because of subliminals, and would of assumed he lost with the call. Regardless, if he had a set, you and I would be trying to defend Doug with the call with king high in the comments, and would be told we were exploitable stations, calling too often, etc, or worse, "he is never bluffing here".
but high stake pros have polarized ranges, they mix shit up every now and then to not be obvious if this is a line he would take with draws and bluffs he has to take the same line with some two pairs and sets as well even some aces.
Such an amazing achievement & to still be winning so in today's game is even more amazing !
I did the math on your results. I'm 92.7% confident that you will see this same level of profits in the long run so scientifically you're a break even player
please explain how you got that please?
I think he is referring to the team behind the last AI vs human challenge in heads up no limit declaring the slight loss a statistical draw. Could be wrong though.
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Can you do a dumbed down version where you get straight to the main points? I’m too new to be following these charts and shit. Not much HU content out there for beginners seems like. Thanks Doug.
Someday I'll have some money and I'll get into the lab, thanks for the free content
Did you ever get in the lab?
@@goodfractalspoker7179 legend has it yes
@@adaniel2224 time for me to get in the lab myself!
"I side-saddled off some money over here as well." Nicely done.
a0kca1p I don't get it
My graph kinda looks like that, but the direction is different. Cool that PT4 can display numbers that large. I have something to look forward to.
I felt like the point of this video was just to show all the trolls that Doug actually can play poker.
I still did enjoy this one for sure. :)
good stuff. I bet and hope you are planning a brains vs ai summary video. here is another idea: several shorter poker hands, same video, of tough spots for the humans vs the bot. what would be really interesting here is some of the unorthodox spots like when the bot is 2-5x ing the pot on the turn and river.
I don't even need to watch this video, I am already sure it's great as always, so thumb up and shout out for my favourite youtuber and - allegedly - future vloger! KEEP IT UP, DAN.
To listen to your analysis of hands is akin to nervous memories of college professors delivering rapturous lectures about... I got lost somewhere.
already signed up for Libratus HU coaching Doug but thanks for asking
yo doug, really love your content in the last few months. I was just wondering when or how often you stream heads up nl? cause i would love to see you play more (i've already watched all of your youtube vids on henl and loved them). cheers.
Jungle and WCG HU challenge @5KNL?
Hey, what does VPIP, PFR, 3 bet PF and bb/Hand mean in the chart? Thanks so much for the videos
Can you make a follow up video or statement about the results and aftermath of the Pros vs AI. watch that recently happened
The master DAN POLK with his secret.
what is this meme about?
The Sun made a mistake calling him that
Solid video Dan.
can't get enough of your videos. .. great stuff!
A friend and I were playing heads-up texas hold-em. She had $21 left in her stack. I had $229. The blinds were $16/32 and she had the button and therefore had the small blind. She put in her $16 small blind and I put in my $32 big blind. She saw her cards and then pushed all-in with her remaining $5. She claimed that I was required to put in an additional $5 so that I'd have $37 invested into the pot even though she was all-in for a total of only $21 invested. She claimed that if she won the hand, she would get my $37 even though she had only begun the hand with a total stack of only $21. I disagreed and said that the most she could win from me was only $21 and that I'd be entitled to have the excess above and beyond my $21 "call" returned to me. She insisted that I would forfeit the full $32 big blind plus the additional $5 she had "raised" to go all-in. Who is right and who is wrong?
why are you playing $16 blinds with $250 between you
Dude i swear the face you are making in the thumbnail is the embodiement of destroying someone heads up. Litterally how i feel is written on your face haha.
Hey Doug. If you are playing tens of thousands of hands against these people and consistently winning why do they not stop playing you and find a softer opponent? Is it that they feel they have an edge and have just been unlucky or that they are trying to win back what they lost? Or does it take that many hands to realise this in the first place.
Theregentification Egos
I'm missing the part of "Get a lot of aces" in the strategy.. 🤔
You can get hand-histories for the non American sites by writing a browser userscript to write the socket data to your personal database. Eaaasy
You know Doug, I love your content, especially hands review of other players hands. But did you really have to put pocket AA in one of your most memorable heads up games?
A heads up video that ain't by Dan Blitz? Can't get behind it
Bazam!
Great video bro. been waiting for this one.
This content is gold thank you.
Great video, Thanks for sharing this Doug!
Thanks for sharing, Doug. Nice vid.
WTF ? A month ago you had 33k Subs and now almost 52k. Keep going Doug !!!!!! Also, please make a funny video again roasting people, they are amazing !!!
hello, I love this vídeo. I also have a really simple question: in the first hand, why he (Sauce1234 ) "is not gonna have a hand like A 9"? He can't cbet top pair flop and check call 2nd pair turn, if he knows that You will float sometimes boards like 9 4 3 s d d? Can you or somebody talk a little more about this? Please! I am a really fan of your work! Thank you
I've seen a lot more donk bets lately. could you do a video about them if you see any strategic benefits to it. and how to combat being donked
very nice videos, I like them; thanks for publishing!
Fxxk yes Douug. I'm super excited about this!!!
Doug, great vids! would love some "live" content from the heads up challenge (vlog??)
See more? Are u fking kidding me coach? This was just soooooooo nice! High level right? This is so pretty and i am really grad for you be opening your life to us. I finally made my UsP subscribe and i am enjoying it alot.
Ty one more time for everything. You are the best!
Doug when is the 3rd HU video coming?
Doug how do you find the time to do these videos. Do you even play poker anymore? Anyways, thanks for another GREAT video.
Doug - Do you prefer ACR or Ignition/Bovado? I'm trying to figure out which would be better for mid stakes NL/PLO.
Harrington on Hold'em Books on the table in the backround there?
Doug, dawg. I have a 13:37 question for you. Why are you saying that he can not have A9 there? Is it because of the 3bet range you put him on? Or the flop and turn plays? Thanks
great info, but how about heads up turbo, would you say you play ace and king high hands a little more agg preflop than usual?
Hey Doug, for the hand against Sauce1234, couldn't 99 be in his range to check call check call then jam on the river?
What are the percentages in the hand reviews? In the sauce hand it shows 64% for sauce on the river and 36% for Doug's KT. What do those numbers mean?
can you do hand analysis of matt damon vs johhny chan from rounders?
Dan,can you teach me how to play HU 4 Rolls?
What can I do to help you Mr Dwan? Doug online poker coming to PA any day now any tips on huds starting online ect
Doug, when do you intend to get back to high stakes hu? Would u ever recommend low stakes hu on ps? Feels like the rake is so brutal, dont u think? Love u - no homo
What are your actually winnings after selling action?
Hi Doug so if I understand this video right. You have won 3.5 million in 6 years but by looking at who you had your biggest wins from all that 3.5 million came from 6 players. So basically if you didn't play at those stakes and with those players you would be break even or losing Heads up ?? What am I missing ? thanks
Great video dude!
Wow nice call
14:20 why can he not have A9 ? because he leads out or because of the 3-bet range preflop?
Marvellous!
More heads up videos please!
Noticed Ben 86 in your most loss to chart. Just curious if it was in Cap NL?
@dougpolkpoker I want to buy the course of headsup , but I'm afraid of one thing: Nowadays the sizes bets are different, continuation bets are usually small, and I realize that you have adhered to this strategy some time ago, this could be something bad that would leave the course outdated ? Thank you
Is this a showcase of your flow charts or a strategy video?
Can anyone tel me if the preflop guide on upswing is for tournaments also?
Hey Polk,i like your sunglasses!Which brand r those?
loved it Master Polk
Hey Doug! I would love to see your Ivey vs Sands from PCA 2013 analyse. Would be great :)
hey doug what about his J9 hand?
In which range did you put it in?
Is the link right? All I'm getting is an old HU turbo article.
does anyone know a good place to play heads up no limt hold'em?
Pokerstars dropped a big one deleting it
Doug quick question, do you still live in the US? If so how do you play on pokerstars?
Brilliant!
Not notification crew but there before them. Bazam
How does this translate to HU hyper? The math is the same but stacks are much shorter there!
Do you think HUSNG Turbos is a good way to make money and also become better at the game in 2017 Doug? Im looking for a pokerform that allows one to become a lot better but also make reasonable amounts of money(at least 2-3 K$ a month) HUSNG any good?
ill play you HU
crazy that you only raked 75k across those hands and I'm raking roughly that playing 100-200nl a year.
If you fold to 3bets 50% of the time, isn't that a pretty big leak? I can just 3bet you to 6bb every hand and only need to win a very small proportion of the hands where you call? Am I missing something? Thanks
Love the content.
Alot of pros are talking about blockers, like if u have K9, u block AK. Can you really take that into concideration when playing or is that too dangerous? Because then i think, Yeah i block AK so now they dont have it. Any thoughts?
Mackinator
You think, I have a K, so it's LESS LIKELY they have a K.
I typically calculate in my head how many combinations of value/bluffs the other player has, so if I didn't have a K, AK (for example) would have 16 combos, but now it only has 12 (3 Kings and 4 Aces).
I would say that making decisions only because you have a blocker is dangerous. Blockers help you the most if there are 3 to a flush on the board (let's say 3 clubs), and the other guy moves in. If you have the ace of clubs in your hand (but nothing more), you might call because a lot of guys only move in with flushes that have the A (nut flushes), and you block that.
Ok great answer, thanks
Mackinator
No problem.
Did u get buttoned a lot? Over 400 times?
I sharkscope'd your PS sn, WCG|Rider, but the results are locked. Why do you lock your results?
Why did Sauce 3bet with 56 offsuit from the small blind?? He's at the absolute bottom of his range..
what's a recommended us poker site nowadays?
great content bro! LETS MAKE MONEY!