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While it only resulted in a fourth place, I wanna give a shout out to Dabuz's losers run at Double down 2022. He won 12 sets in a row if I'm not miscounting, with wins over Chag, Ned, Kurama, Sonix, Jakal and KEN.
18:16 You were indeed correct, Frostbite 2020 was literally the first tournament that came to mind. I was waiting literally the entire video for you to mention it.
The best Losers run in Smash Ultimate is MKLeo´s frost bite run. He got upset by Mario on Round 1 of winners , and then went on an insane rampage and destroyed the field into winning the tournament. He literally beat all top players and the reason he did not beat the Number 1 player is because HE HIMSELF WAS THE #1 PLAYER
Not any Mario player - then known as Prodigy, now known as Kurama But back then, Leo was so dominant that there was no doubt he could do it. He was the number one against people he (if I recall correctly) had a mostly positive record against, ending the run VS Maister (he's like 23-1 on Maister now). It was a craaaaazy run, but I think Sonix tops that given the context
@@יונתןשי-ת4וAdd on the context of the increase in skill compared to back then and the relatively low gap. At that time, Leo was ten miles ahead of everyone, but now, the top 25 or so are all relatively close skill wise. I'd still personally give best losers run to Sparg0's Kagaribi 10 run, but I absolutely see why Sonix's Supernova run is considered #1 by many
@typhlosion7872 frostbite 2020 was over a year into ults life and Leo got brought to game 5 several times. To claim that the players he beat were inferior is disrespectful and just untrue, especially when guys like tweek, master, tea, and zackray are still top level competitors.
Another losers run worth mentioning is Kuroponzu's run at sumabato 47 which was a 12 set losers run to 2nd from a player whos previous best placement at a major was 13th. This might be the most impressive losers run if you take into account the player it came from given that 8 out of his 12 wins were upsets.
id like to say i really like the design choices when explaining the losers runs, seeing who sent them and the players and characters in a sleek graphic is so cool
I've watched most of the video. IMO the top 3 are Leo's Frostbite 2020, Sparg0's Kagaribi 10 and Leo's EVO 2019, mostly because I value winning the tournament outright rather then placing 2nd, and they all have comparable wins to Sonix's Supernova run. Sonix's Supernova run is probably 4th because of that, at least in my eyes.
I personally think that winning a tournament is heavily overrated and is proof of the hype bias. It's almost as if getting second was actually getting 3rd or 5th in comparison to getting 1st when in reality the only difference is usually one win + some points. Clutching it out adds importance points? Sure, but no way in hell does it make getting first like 3-4 times better than getting second, that's utterly ridiculous.
I think a losers run that tends to get overlooked a bit is Hurt’s performance at Delta 5. While probably not in contention for the best losers run ever, he is one of only 3 players to beat both Acola and Miya at the same tournament (the other 2 being Spargo and Sonix), in addition to scoring wins on other top 20 players Shuton, Ken, and Yaura.
Bro my longest losers run was like 5 sets long, it took ALL day and I was absolutely mentally exhausted by the end. I could not imagine doing 10+ sets man some of these players are just built diff man. I'm not as cut out for this LOL 💀
@@HamzaKhan-mk5lb Worst part is that Sonix plays Sonic bc of how much he likes him and people still hate on it. Like bro, he has no choice regardless of wether you like it or not lol
@@Moiraxdtt Even if he didn’t like the character its always funny to see people get mad at someone for playing good characters. Like its their job to compete why would they play a low tier lmao
I actually had a really good run in the school's tournament I hosted, I went to losers bracket round 1 and ended up winning the whole thing. You can make a video about if you want to walt, no problems here pookiebear
Importance is such a dumb category it’s super subjective and then based off categories that are waaaaay outside of the losers run itself and shouldn’t be used to determine how good a losers run is.
To me Leo's runs at Frostbite 2020 and Evo 2019 are the 1st and 2nd greatest losers runs respectively. Both had everything and I have fond memories of the former as I was there watching it which I won't forget. To me a losers run where you don't actually win the tournament loses a lot of points even if it is very good so Sparg0s kagaribi and Acola's summit are definitely above sonix's run at supernova to me although they don't touch those 2 Leo runs. Another great losers run that also ended in 2nd was Kola at lmbm 2022 where he lost to Chocotaco outside of top 64 and played for 65th in his first losers match. He beat Lavish>AOS>Angel>Quandale Dinglelingleton>Moxi>psychomyko>Quik>Fatality>Scend>Dabuz>Muteace>Quidd (12 sets in total) but lost the runback to Quidd. The funniest part to me is that if Kola beat chocotaco he would have fought Quidd in the next set.
IF SONIX WON SUPERNOVA IT WOULDVE BEEN THE BEST RUN IN ALL OF SMASH But it’s not so that’s really an unfortunate way to say that Mkleo’s Frostbite was better simply because he won
IMO, if Sonix won this event, it’d put him in serious contention for number 1 at the time Even after his bad lumi invitational run, he’s atp still top 3, or at least still in the top 4
Havent watched the video yet but imo #1 Leo Frostbite 2020 #2 Sparg0 Kagaribi 10 #3 Sonix Supernova 2024 (even though he didn't win it he beat like half of the upcoming top 10 let's be so fr) hms are Miya's Seibugeki 12 (longest losers run to win at 13 sets), Leo Evo 2019 (not the greatest in terms of wins but definitely the most iconic) and Tweek Port Priority 7
(It's pronounced lawed not loud, your videos are great, absolutely love them, please don't take this as more than a minor correction for someone who's content I really enjoy seeing and made me like Melee despite myself)
Id say spargo at kag 10 slightly beats out leo at frostbite considering how much higher the skill level of play has gotten and that it was the first non iapanese player to win a japanese major
As someone who watched tennis and football way before I watched smash, I never understood the appeal of double elimination brackets. There’s nothing cool about losing and not being eliminated. There’s way more tension when every match played is someone’s last.
What you say is true, but there are also advantages to double elimination. 1. Unlike pro sports, most tournaments allow anyone to enter. People are a lot more likely to travel and pay the entry fee if they are guaranteed to play more than 1 match. Pools matches help with this as well, guaranteeing several matches for each competitor, before the bracket even begins. (Amateur sports tournaments often have a consolation bracket, which is not the same as double elimination, but is similar in that it guarantees at least 2 matches per player) 2. A set in smash bros is relatively short. And since it's a video game and not a physical sport, players have the endurance to play far more matches than in pro sports. With double elimination you can have so many more matches, which is good for content and ultimately good for the community.
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thank you walt, very cool
Awesome!
Probably my own losers run. I've been a loser for 26 years now. I'll likely be running for 74 more years. Hard to beat that.
One day I'll surpass you
I’m gonna live to 101 just to beat you
Life is an 8 billion people bracket. That's true.
@Jvdde which will only make him even more of a loser
Same but i am 27 so my loosers run is allready better then yours
I dropped into loosers bracket frame 1 😅
Sonix having the second greatest losers run is truly salt in the wound
XD he probaly hates that number
The fact that Sparg0’s win at Kagaribi 10 was the first time a North American won a Japanese Supermajor makes it even better
Why the North American distinction? Has a South American won a Japanese Supermajor before?
Technically Mexico is central America 🤓👆
@@Athorment no but they are different regions
wow good video
thanks
@@turndownforULTThis guy is clearly copying your content, you should copyright him
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Insert Obama giving himself a medal meme lol
I love to see larger content creators supporting smaller creators fighting to get through the algorithm ❤️❤️❤️
sonix is the king of losers runs to 2nd place. i really hope he wins in 25, man works hard
While it only resulted in a fourth place, I wanna give a shout out to Dabuz's losers run at Double down 2022. He won 12 sets in a row if I'm not miscounting, with wins over Chag, Ned, Kurama, Sonix, Jakal and KEN.
18:16 You were indeed correct, Frostbite 2020 was literally the first tournament that came to mind. I was waiting literally the entire video for you to mention it.
Aaand another second place finish for Sonix
The best Losers run in Smash Ultimate is MKLeo´s frost bite run. He got upset by Mario on Round 1 of winners , and then went on an insane rampage and destroyed the field into winning the tournament. He literally beat all top players and the reason he did not beat the Number 1 player is because HE HIMSELF WAS THE #1 PLAYER
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@@tomatoatoato yes
Not any Mario player - then known as Prodigy, now known as Kurama
But back then, Leo was so dominant that there was no doubt he could do it. He was the number one against people he (if I recall correctly) had a mostly positive record against, ending the run VS Maister (he's like 23-1 on Maister now). It was a craaaaazy run, but I think Sonix tops that given the context
@@יונתןשי-ת4וAdd on the context of the increase in skill compared to back then and the relatively low gap. At that time, Leo was ten miles ahead of everyone, but now, the top 25 or so are all relatively close skill wise. I'd still personally give best losers run to Sparg0's Kagaribi 10 run, but I absolutely see why Sonix's Supernova run is considered #1 by many
@typhlosion7872 frostbite 2020 was over a year into ults life and Leo got brought to game 5 several times. To claim that the players he beat were inferior is disrespectful and just untrue, especially when guys like tweek, master, tea, and zackray are still top level competitors.
Another losers run worth mentioning is Kuroponzu's run at sumabato 47 which was a 12 set losers run to 2nd from a player whos previous best placement at a major was 13th. This might be the most impressive losers run if you take into account the player it came from given that 8 out of his 12 wins were upsets.
Not to mention the grands wasn't just a game 5 loss, but a game 10 loss
Not mentioning Leo's frostbite run for the first 18 minutes of the video had me seriously on edge lol
id like to say i really like the design choices when explaining the losers runs, seeing who sent them and the players and characters in a sleek graphic is so cool
I've watched most of the video. IMO the top 3 are Leo's Frostbite 2020, Sparg0's Kagaribi 10 and Leo's EVO 2019, mostly because I value winning the tournament outright rather then placing 2nd, and they all have comparable wins to Sonix's Supernova run. Sonix's Supernova run is probably 4th because of that, at least in my eyes.
I personally think that winning a tournament is heavily overrated and is proof of the hype bias. It's almost as if getting second was actually getting 3rd or 5th in comparison to getting 1st when in reality the only difference is usually one win + some points.
Clutching it out adds importance points? Sure, but no way in hell does it make getting first like 3-4 times better than getting second, that's utterly ridiculous.
Honestly. I respect Sonix a whole lot more because of this loser's run. It was actually really good, it was beautiful tbh.
I love sonic
Me too :)
I still hate Sonic but I respect Sonix as a competitor, dude's legit
sonix is the ultimate silver collector
21 minutes for the second-place meme payoff. I respect it.
I think a losers run that tends to get overlooked a bit is Hurt’s performance at Delta 5. While probably not in contention for the best losers run ever, he is one of only 3 players to beat both Acola and Miya at the same tournament (the other 2 being Spargo and Sonix), in addition to scoring wins on other top 20 players Shuton, Ken, and Yaura.
Leo's frostbite run was nutty
There was also a huge losers run by Asimo when he lost round 1 and managed to get into top 8 winning around 13 rounds
This new thumbnail/title does the script justice fr, well done
The conclusion of this video was hilarious, great one.
Bro my longest losers run was like 5 sets long, it took ALL day and I was absolutely mentally exhausted by the end. I could not imagine doing 10+ sets man some of these players are just built diff man. I'm not as cut out for this LOL 💀
MkLeo's losers run at Frostbite 2020 is definitely my pick.
Mr. 2nd place does it again lol
This is why sonix is the goat, love the gameplay or not, the man has a talent, which is insane! 🦔
Top 2 char
@ And? Your shocked people play good characters to compete 🤣
@@HamzaKhan-mk5lb Worst part is that Sonix plays Sonic bc of how much he likes him and people still hate on it. Like bro, he has no choice regardless of wether you like it or not lol
@@Moiraxdtt Even if he didn’t like the character its always funny to see people get mad at someone for playing good characters. Like its their job to compete why would they play a low tier lmao
Happy New Year, Smash fans!
Sonix can't help but get 2nd, even in this video 😭
THE KING OF SECOND PLACE
iDom and NoahTheProdigy in SFV come immediately to mind.
Could have definitely mentioned rarus run at delta 9 recently
not the second place finish again 😭😭😭
JEFFDABOSS INDIANA MENTIONED???
Sonix in 2nd place what a surprise
I actually had a really good run in the school's tournament I hosted, I went to losers bracket round 1 and ended up winning the whole thing. You can make a video about if you want to walt, no problems here pookiebear
Importance is such a dumb category it’s super subjective and then based off categories that are waaaaay outside of the losers run itself and shouldn’t be used to determine how good a losers run is.
“Greatest losers run” is a different category than “statistically best losers run”
To me Leo's runs at Frostbite 2020 and Evo 2019 are the 1st and 2nd greatest losers runs respectively. Both had everything and I have fond memories of the former as I was there watching it which I won't forget.
To me a losers run where you don't actually win the tournament loses a lot of points even if it is very good so Sparg0s kagaribi and Acola's summit are definitely above sonix's run at supernova to me although they don't touch those 2 Leo runs.
Another great losers run that also ended in 2nd was Kola at lmbm 2022 where he lost to Chocotaco outside of top 64 and played for 65th in his first losers match.
He beat Lavish>AOS>Angel>Quandale Dinglelingleton>Moxi>psychomyko>Quik>Fatality>Scend>Dabuz>Muteace>Quidd (12 sets in total) but lost the runback to Quidd.
The funniest part to me is that if Kola beat chocotaco he would have fought Quidd in the next set.
Funny how everyone he beat (besides shadic) are the top 10 of quarter two
Really amazing analysis!
MKleo. 2020. Frostbite.
IF SONIX WON SUPERNOVA IT WOULDVE BEEN THE BEST RUN IN ALL OF SMASH
But it’s not so that’s really an unfortunate way to say that Mkleo’s Frostbite was better simply because he won
This dude made a 21 minute video only to drop a meme about Sonix placing second
IMO, if Sonix won this event, it’d put him in serious contention for number 1 at the time
Even after his bad lumi invitational run, he’s atp still top 3, or at least still in the top 4
What a great video!
RYUOH MENTIONED ❤❤
Ignore this - Commenting for the algorithm
_Engagement!_
I watched sonic
into the am is a good spomser
superb video
i sonic
My 1-2 run at Supernova is prob better ngl 👀
Games?
Havent watched the video yet but imo #1 Leo Frostbite 2020 #2 Sparg0 Kagaribi 10 #3 Sonix Supernova 2024 (even though he didn't win it he beat like half of the upcoming top 10 let's be so fr)
hms are Miya's Seibugeki 12 (longest losers run to win at 13 sets), Leo Evo 2019 (not the greatest in terms of wins but definitely the most iconic) and Tweek Port Priority 7
(It's pronounced lawed not loud, your videos are great, absolutely love them, please don't take this as more than a minor correction for someone who's content I really enjoy seeing and made me like Melee despite myself)
Little known secret: every character in ultimates roster is solo viable
sonix 2nd place again lmoa
The amount of ads on this video is atrocious. I can tolerate 1, but more than 2 the video is more of a commercial than the content itself.
Id say spargo at kag 10 slightly beats out leo at frostbite considering how much higher the skill level of play has gotten and that it was the first non iapanese player to win a japanese major
As someone who watched tennis and football way before I watched smash, I never understood the appeal of double elimination brackets. There’s nothing cool about losing and not being eliminated. There’s way more tension when every match played is someone’s last.
What you say is true, but there are also advantages to double elimination.
1. Unlike pro sports, most tournaments allow anyone to enter. People are a lot more likely to travel and pay the entry fee if they are guaranteed to play more than 1 match. Pools matches help with this as well, guaranteeing several matches for each competitor, before the bracket even begins. (Amateur sports tournaments often have a consolation bracket, which is not the same as double elimination, but is similar in that it guarantees at least 2 matches per player)
2. A set in smash bros is relatively short. And since it's a video game and not a physical sport, players have the endurance to play far more matches than in pro sports. With double elimination you can have so many more matches, which is good for content and ultimately good for the community.
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Acola played STEVE, it doesn’t count
then you do it then
@@faith_9670 So should leo’s frostbite run not count cuz at the time joker was the best character
Discount points for playing lame Sonic.
i hate sonic
ture...
Sonix my goat
I eat sonic
Boo sonic
No it wasnt sonic mains are carried
wow good video
The amount of ads on this video is atrocious. I can tolerate 1, but more than 2 the video is more of a commercial than the content itself.