Max towing 2005 5.9 cummins 12,000lbs
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- Опубліковано 18 сер 2019
- First time towing the big toy hauler with the 2500 5.9 power wise the truck did really good no complaints there. Where the trucks weak point was on the maxed out leaf springs the truck was super bouncy and definitely needs air bags before I tow it again! Let me know what videos you want to see next sorry for not posting in a while will have more consistent uploads.
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I had a 05 3500 single wheel with a 6 speed. I remember I had to haul a dozer for some Amish. It had to have been 25k lbs at least. Every time I would take off and shift gears the whole truck would twist and bottom out the rear suspension lol. It’s crazy how capable these trucks are. The engines just pull whatever you hook to them. Nice truck man
Thanks man the airbags I have really help out and going to replace my front track bar to have a more firm feel on the front end since it’s worn out.
As far as the loose steering I ran across the same problem. Forced me to further inspect the steering and front suspension components. I found excessive play on the sector shaft of my Gearbox and play on the Ball Joints.. Obviously this really presented itself when I had the tongue weight on the back. The fix was Red Head Gear box with a Sector shaft support and Dynatrac ball Joints. I have pretty much the same Stryker trailer that I pull with my 1 ton.
I appreciate the honest description of the ride. Too many glorify their rigs, which doesn't help everyone else. 07 mega 5.9 here.
My 06 with a bully dog tuner towed like a beast, and it was a 3500 single wheel no squat hardly at all, or add u some air bags she do good themselves great motors ,mine still going great 361,000
lol you just broke it in!!! changing the oil in these motors is the secret to the million mile mark good luck!!!
Nice truck get yourself some 3500 springs and balance the weight over the trailer axles to loose toung weight. Install a thermostaticly controlled 1,000 BTU transmission oil cooler under the bed so it will last 200K instead of 90K miles. Low speed towing will destroy your transmission because the torque converter is not locked and boils fluid.
We’ve pulled 22,000 lbs of hay with a 2005 3500. That’s not maxed dodge just recommends you don’t go over 12k
I pulled my RV a 2015 420RW that’s 15-20k with my stock 06 dodge 3500 non dually 5.9 48RE 5” straight and I was getting 6.5MPG
I just bought a Smarty Touch and I’m anxious to see how the Tow tune does.
Let me know how it does with the tuner! I have the Edge CTS 2 and not really liking the temps I’m getting runs pretty hot climbing hills I mainly tow my gooseneck dump trailer 16-18k loaded does really well.
@@dfrgarage1348 whoa that’s some weight you got there.
I just tried my Smarty Touch today and I am liking it, I can feel the power.
It hits 70 MPH in no time, and with the Smarty’s Stock & Street tune the transmission shifts smoother as well.
Now time for the RV pull, ill test it out tomorrow.
@@lionsdejudah dam you must of payed alot for diesel🥴
@@lionsdejudah you will like the Smarty Touch. I've had one for 2 years and love it. Also I sometimes run the Accel Super Tuner on performance or tow and it does great. I do have other supporting mods that help it out. Mine is an early 03 3500 dually.
Are you on the 101 outside n of gaviota?
Why is it that I am the only one with the Graphite Metallic and screwed up clear coat?
Love the rig, thanks for sharing it!!
What's the difference from towing an over drive when u click the button again from when u put it in gear I just wonder when I'm hauling anything heavy should I use towing or overdrive?
I got an 05 at the off-road package with the lower gears pulls like a champ up hill but screams rpms on the highway
that dude I bet with my tuner and airbags it pulls way better now
@@dfrgarage1348 nice! yeah I've had a smarty jr. On mine for about eight years now and it's work great I'll leave it on 100hp
Did u ever put bags? I got a 4th gen dually never needed them for mine. Just wondering about yours. Stay safe!
Exhaust brake?
You don't have it set up right, 10,000 trailer is nothing,for a diesel truck,that tongue weight on that trailer is between 800 and 1,000 lbs that's nothing for a 3/4 ton truck, your hitch on the truck was to high, the truck and trailer should be level that's why it rode the way it did
I know this is an old post, but yea, you are right. That setup is not properly installed
I think there still is a lot to learn my friend. But nice work. btw your gvw is what the trailer could weigh if it were loaded to capacity.
jordan Robinson yea since this video was posted I learned so much more thanks to all you guys and doing better research. But thanks for the feed back brother
As well as RVs aren’t in the same category as normal trailers far as DOT is concerned. They are rated on size but even 26,000 doesn’t require cdl if pulling one. I forget exactly but they give a lil more room on boats n rvs then reg trailers.
Man this is just the video I was looking for , we recently purchased a 36 foot camper , it's a 2003 cedar Creek , and my son barowed his 5500 work truck to pull it for me , I have a 1500 ram , and trying to find a truck locally is difficult now , I'm going to look at a 2500 with the 5.9 in the morning but it's lifted and I don't know if the tires are the correct load range , but just a little bit ago I found a 3500 Ram that's stock with a 5.9 Cummins and has a rebuilt transmission in it , hopefully I can get that one .
did you end up buying it?
@@rickbalderas7153 I didn't get that one but found another 05 3500 , which I am rebuilding the transmission in that one myself . Lol
@@051570orionoh nice man. Did you think it was funny/odd that someone asked after 2 years lol?
What were your egts like going up that steep hill pedal to the metal?
prolly very low I've owned a few and his has issues most likely turbo is shot because they can haul about 20,000 up hill before that even happens stock
Transfer a bit more with the WDH and that would have helped a bunch.
LOL gvwr is the max the trailer is rated to hold when fully loaded if you put the right ammount of weight in it. it could easily have weighed well over that or well under that depending on whats inside. being a toy hauler it prob has 2000-3000 lb of payload on that trailer meaning its in the 7-8k lb range or possibly even less with no water in it or stuff. that truck also needs air bags. i tow the same weight in my 12 valve and that squat is crazyyy in this vid lol
And first trans rebuilt at 312,000, all u have to do is maintain the fluid and filter in the trans
Goodyear double bellow air lift kit.
Just pulled a keystone 40 footer 5hrs down the road, weighing in at 14,000 lbs . lol barely made it on stock tune 😂
Ive pulled a fith wheel toyhauler that weighed over 13K with my 03 Dodge Cummins 2500. Airbags eliminate the bouncing going down the road.
I will be posting a new video soon I have airbags, built transmissions with deep pan and ATS trans cooler and mishimoto transmission replacement cooler and a lot more things done
@@dfrgarage1348 you should be running minimal pressure in your airbags when using a weight distribution hitch so that won't balance out the load. You need to adjust the WDH bars in order to level out the load.
If you add a few leaf sections under the overload it would help the squat.
I ordered air bags for my truck!
Weird that it squatting that much I was towing 10000 pounds today with my 04 and with my airbags it didn’t squat at all
05 5.9l H.O car hauling..most fully loaded 32,000 combine
What kind of fuel mileage did you get working it like that??
If I remember it was averaging 10.5 mpg during that trip
@@dfrgarage1348 change your turbo out!!!
Well I have a 2005 Dodge Ram 2500 Cummins and the Max tow and payload back then for the Quad Cab 4x4 auto was 2,400 # Payload and 13,300 # max tow for the SLT auto. The 6 speed manual actually towed about 500 # less on paper than the auto so I don’t understand that, but that’s what the manual says. I feel most people that buy 3/4 Tons trucks should actually be buying a 1 Ton and not a 3/4 Ton. I got friends towing 30K with their 3/4 Ton Dodges and I do not agree with that at all. This will all come to a haunt soon because Trucks are going to start coming with some sort of scale on it so that if you overload your truck or tow to much it will void your warranty and I don’t think the dealer will even be allowed to work on it at all. I think the DMV or whoever is getting tired of scraping body parts of the road because people are pulling 30K with a truck that has a max rating of 20K.
Why was the red light on the panel ?
My brake light and abs light are on bc I have to replace a sensor
@@dfrgarage1348 I Understood
26'-28' max length camper on a bumper style hitch. I would sell that camper and buy a fifth wheel camper and hitch. Then do another review. Get weiggt over the axles, it will ride better also. 😎
Wow my 2018 2500 payload 3400 and tow 13500lb i hook up my toy hauler GVWR 12000 with a Weight distribution hitch and it doesn't Squat at all
Those 6.7s are a different animal those trucks tow like nothing is there with that Kind of weight.
@@dfrgarage1348 no mine is a 6.4 gasser
@@dfrgarage1348 the 6.7 Cummins tow 16000lb or better
I love my 6.7
Weight distribution hitch definitely not set up right. Pulling a 33ft behind a F150 and rear only squats 2 inches with hitch set up right
Thats not a f150
Thats a 2500 with a Cummins and that's the tow Max of 12000lb wow
@@gardnetbush9768 My old truck was a F150 that I pulled a 33ft camper with. I just traded for a new Ram Cummins
@@BrandonBigB956 oh I'm sorry I thought you was saying that his truck was a f150 sorry about that and congratulations on your Ram
I pull a 57ft fully loaded roll up door semi trailer with the tandems slid all the way to the tail with my Datsun d10 and it doesn't hardly have any squat and pulls like a chimp . I always have fun pulling into the Walmart with it and parking with the rest of the f-150 Ecoboost owners who are also parked in the semi truck spots pulling their 53ft trailers fully loaded on their way to the job sites . We have a good chat about how the guys towing with cat c15 engines and 18spd transmissions just need to learn how to tow .
You have a weight distribution and it’s still squatting like that , it’s not adjusted properly
edward1967able the trailer is really heavy that’s why I’ll make a new video same route and hills but this time with my tuner on tow tune mode and airbags.
Correct it’s not set up for my truck it’s set up for a 2016 ram 2500 so it’s lifted higher
@Darren coming from someone who tows a 7k toy hauler with a 2001 silverado ECSB 4x4, it don’t matter how high on the links you go with a WD hitch it will still squat because it’s just that heavy and the half ton leaf springs are to soft. I installed airbags and not only did it level it, the whole ride is night and day. I can even fill the bags enough to have 2 inches of rake in the rear with the 800 pound tongue weight. Cheers
Buy air bags and a tuner
Brandon Roeder already got the tuner air bags going on next week🤘🏽
DFR Garage whats youre egts while towing
Diesel Power I did not have a monitor or egt gauge at that time I have the monitor and will will be getting the egt hook up soon
DFR Garage i can hit easy 1400 with a trailer. my 2nd gen wouldnt clime past 1300 loaded. 3rd gens are totally different machine but love it
You don't have the weight distributors tight enough
It’s 5500lbs it’s not 12,000lbs gross vehicle weight rating is 9999 do to both axles being able to hold 3500lbs. Ur truck actually for 16,000 pounds. And that’s with all the weight added including fuel Etc.
Please get a edge cts3 monitor and e egt gauge watch your tranny temp coolant temp and egts very important that’s a lot of weight on a 5.9!!!
Max tow? I've did at least 15000 up a mountain 48re..5.9 3500 single wheel
S C Im aware these trucks can handle a lot more but that’s just what the max weight for conventional towing says from factory
@@dfrgarage1348 right..I have a 2012 now I loved my 5.9..but the 6.7 is a different animal in my opinion of course..day ..and night 6.7 is a beast
Once I move to Arizona I plan to get a 6.7 3500 SRW I love my truck but I agree with you that the difference is night and day.
@@dfrgarage1348 If you are going to get another dodge, you better get one with the AISEN. I tow with exactly same truck except short bed 2500 and a 1 year new, a 38ft fifth wheel with 5000lbs air bags @ 12,400 empty trailer weight it still bounces over the bumps and transmission gets hot really quick. SO going to the high country like Mogollon Rim you can expect to overheat and have to pull over. Those are some nasty climbs up that way with that older truck unless you have put some money into aftermarket trans cooling.Did it twice and it wasn't a good experience. New Ford 2020 F350 Crew Cab Dually here I come..
@@dfrgarage1348 If it was a fifth wheel it would be rated probably around 16 to 18k for being a 2500. Engine is plently of power for 12k. You gear ratio prob is 3.73 and the duallys i think are 4.10s
How well did it stop?????
Very well I have a trailer brake I will do another tow test video with my new trailer
@@dfrgarage1348 ok thanks
I Tow a 11000lb sprayfoam trailer with my 1500 ram hemi and I have airlift 5000 with air comp and remote and it is a dream I should upgrade to a 2500 Cummins but would add the airbags again ...
Henry Henry after getting air bags I would get them on any other truck I’d buy. Great investment for peace of mind!
DFR Garage agreed wich ones did u buy ?
Not the max. I have a 2007 Cummings 2500 5.9. No offense but if you have your foot to,the floor, go and get your truck checked out. Good luck!
Marcus Jordan that was a pretty steep grade pretty similar results with a newer with the same trailer on the same road but what’s your max towing information from just curious? Maybe I’m wrong
@@dfrgarage1348 The grade makes a big difference. We tow a 17k lbs horse loaded trailer from Mississippi to Virginia through the mountains and it don't feel the like the trailer is even back there. The key thing, we are on a gooseneck. The truck I am referring to is buddy Dwight's 2005 HO 2500. My truck is a 2007 HO 2500.
You are on tongue weight. You are spot on with the leaf springs and airbags. Are your truck stock without a tuner?
Trucks completely stock except exhaust and the trailer had more weight it was probably closer to 14k ish with everything we had inside and in the bed of the truck. Power wise I was fine with but my only complaint really was the suspension I’m definitely wanting 3500 leaf springs and air bags for the rear as I will be towing a lot heavier loads than that. Also I have a 25ft gooseneck horse trailer and that rides a whole lot better definitely.
@@Mgezee you are a complete idiot your full of shit saying your towing 17k and can't tell it's there try again your taking at least 20 more seconds to get up to 60 with that weight
@@andrewandrew9856 Natural Selection.
lol 12,000 pounds ahh got a laugh out of this one kid must not know these trucks can haul so so much more than he has on it well I guess if he wants it to last forever 12,000 will do just that with a Cummins, I loved the part where he goes I'm pushing it to the limit so many people do not understand that's its duty cycle it will not accelerate under duty cycle it will hold that same speed no matter the grade you take it up or the weight you have on it results will be the same and yes you can adjust it to where it will go faster by messing with the governor and the trans but if you want that million miles you'll leave her alone
You need to put some more leave the on that weight distribution hitch you don’t have nearly enough on that hitch looks like you head lights are pointing to the moon !
You need to pull them bars up a lot titer on you load equalizers not tite enough .
That’s a medium sized RV for the truck.
Lol it’s 35 ft if it was a fifth wheel it would ride perfect it’s not really the weight is the issue it’s only when it’s windy it is very unstable air bags helped but will be putting a exhaust brake and red head steering box.
Its a cummins there is no such thing as a max towing
Eragon Shadeslayer these things can tow whatever you put behind them but it’s “max tow from the factory” you can obviously tow more
Get some Timbren rubber springs
Another 48re is gonna bite the dust
Soon😂🤷🏼♀️
There’s no difference between 2500 and 3500 springs or a Dually only has different rear hubs. That truck curb weight is 8k lbs GVWR is 12,200 max towing 15,950 total combined weight 28,150.
That trailer is nothing for the truck Gvwr on trailer is 9999 at full capicity it’s 9999. empty it’s only 6k
Get yourself a 3500 model
John Minyard next truck will be a 3500
Or a 5th wheel
It would be way easier on the truck to run a fifth wheel or even a gooseneck
If it was a fifth wheel it would’ve done better would’ve distributed the weight better
The 9999 lb is not what the trailer weighs its the max it can weigh .... basically the most that can be in it including the trailer itself. Its prob 8000-8500 trailer alone
It’s definitely not 8,500 I tow every other day 10k pounds with my dump trailer and 4-7 yards of dirt and doesn’t feel to as close of what that trailer weights when it’s fully loaded. It’s a 35-37ft toy hauler with 2 slides, generator, and a 18 gallon fuel station.
@@dfrgarage1348 I don't care what you compare to im simply telling you a fact. The GVW tag on your trailer that says 9999lb is not the weight of the trailer.... Its the max the trailer csan be including any cargo you put inside it.
And looking at the tag again you can put 1899 lb in it so the trailer empty weighs 8100lb EXACTLY what I said
KLC LAWN & LANDSCAPING then your probably right
The only other factors I accounted for was the 100 gallon fuel cell I have on my truck +tools and all the stuff in the bed is probably 800-1000lbs so thank you for educating me on that.
This can’t be right. I have an 03 GMC Sierra 6.0 and it tows my 11k pound travel trailer almost the same if not better than this Cummins? Something definately isn’t right, these cummins diesels should be blowing gassers out of the water. Wonder why your dodge looked so sluggish
My Ford f-150 can pull that no problem
Lol last thing it ever does.
That diesel will out do a v6 any day of the week
Aaron badboyflexxer Ok.
I’ve seen people like you driving 1500’s on the road saying you can pull stuff like this easy. I also see y’all swerving all over the road because you’re way overloaded...
@@oinchadoomandwolfboy watch ya mouth fuck stick
Didnt believe you till i looked it up
Shit my 01 can tow a legal limit of 14k but can handle 18k on a regular basis
The 02 2500 was rated at 15k 😂
But that may just be your convential tow rating
Realistically these trucks should handle 18-20k just fine and SAFELY
My truck handles 18k just fine its an 01
Now any turbulance you have in handling may just be due to having a tall truck if your towing frequently its better to invest into a 2wd truck due to higher legal capacitys and BETTTER HANDLING (lower center of gravity means better stability)
And a lifted truck is the worst truck for towing
My 01 will do 55-60 mph up grades pretty easily bone stock
Dropping these new injectors will have me doing 65-70 mph up rhe same grades with a 18k lb gooseneck flatbed and a 13k lb 5th wheel
Avging 18-25k gcvw (what matters when legal towing comes into spec)
A 5th wheel or gooseneck will handle much better
Also adjust the load on youf trailer more evenly
Paul Morris I will post a new video I have Air bags and a tuner and the truck is 200x better in towing I’m also getting a new track bar bc my bushing is worn out so once that’s in I will make a new towing video.
Ive pulled 12,000lbs with my 2006 ram 1500 i got a video of it on my channel
Cool story.
@@Icutmetal i do have a video of it on my channel, plus a video of it pulling 36,000lbs sled pull
12,000lbs 🤔 get outta here , I have 1500 and I pull a 4500lbs trailer and I can assure you not enough power going up the Grapevine, definitely upgrading to atleast 2500 Cummings , I have to save all my pennies for now thou 😁🤙🏽
@@edward1967able well technically this is a 2500 with 1500 badging but it still has the same amount of power as a 1500 just the transmission is a bit bigger, and the suspension is a bit bigger and my truck however the motor is bored out to a 362ci instead of the 350
Eragon Shadeslayer haha I kinda figure that out, still a nice set up thou 😁👍🏽
Forget air bags or a tuner. How bout a pyro gauge so you can you arch your turbo melt down on those hills. Omg bro ! Anyone else thinking bout how hot he was on those hills @ 50 mph to the floor 😳. Ignorance is bliss I guess. Do yourself a favor bro. Get a gauge ASAP. Or you’ll be in serious trouble quick.
My edge CTS tuner has gauges I gotta do a update video truck is completely different now
Nah if it was honestly a problem his trip woulda ended a lot soon than it did. His set up is just fine, once you get bigger injectors, bigger tune, turbo etc then get yourself a pyro
@@chrisdolmeph5318 bro 🤦♂️ once you hook to a trailer. Get yourself a pyro. Only a testament to the alloys used tbh. Bigger injectors n turbo run a hell of a lot cooler than factory setup by far. If your foot is in the throttle your building temperature. Maintaining speed on an incline n your building temp fast. Be utterly shocked to see a gauge climbing over 1600 n youre 1/4 way up a grade. Nothing steep just steady.
My trucks fully stock no tune or anything
@@dfrgarage1348 not trying to be a dick but do you think a stock truck doesn’t make heat ? Like the reason we put tuners on etc is to lower egts. There’s nothing in your factory settings that alerts you it cools your exhaust in any capacity. Stock or built to the hills. If you’re foot is in the throttle you’re making heat. Factory turbo builds more heat faster than aftermarket. Only thing a stock truck will save you on is the trans n clutch if manual. Guys are very silly thinking a factory setup won’t absolutely melt your turbo down into a glob. Put a pyro on your truck n discover the abuse you’ve been putting it thru. It’s simply out of sight out of mind however it’s happening every day you drive it. Factory setup , trailer , tuning , doesn’t matter. You need to monitor your temps. I’d bet you were easily in the 2000 degree range. Nothing except you is going to stop your truck until catastrophic failure or you start lifting your foot when you see egts climbing. Ignorance is bliss I suppose....
Buy a lb7 duramax or 6.0 power stroke you won’t have a problem
Next time be a man and a get a manual. That torque converter is screwing you out of power
kelly hanlon debating whether to build the engine and trans or get a 5th gen.
@@dfrgarage1348 I got a 12v 5 speed. I tow 16k up the grades here in the rockies no egt issues no water temp issue. Best mpg towing 15 hand calc. Worst 11. Solo 23. 3500 with 4.10s (don't go 4.10s)
@@dfrgarage1348 if I did a truck again I wouldn't buy a pickup again. Too much money when you can get a mdt for less
kelly hanlon medium duty trucks are nice but I would need to have a class A for that set up for my dump trailer and that truck
@@dfrgarage1348 for an mdt? You must live in California