Towing With A 3rd Gen 5.9 Cummins Diesel: Tehachapi Pass
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
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email: robd@mm3tuning.com
Here it is in action:
• FULL Custom 48RE Trans...
Video of my 2005 5.9 Cummins Dodge Ram towing our 10,000 pound fifth wheel trailer up the Tehachapi Pass tuned with the Smarty Touch.
It’s always interesting to watch the different configurations and towing styles. I tow at higher RPM and manually control the 3/4 shifts. Great video, thank you.
Yeah if you can get the RPMs up that will help with airflow to keep things cooler
Man I’m a Cummins guys. Own a powestroke though. A 2019. Couldn’t find a Cummins I wanted. I’ve had numerous. Can’t beat them. Watching your vids makes me get eager to buy another. And if I do I’ll hit you up for tuning
This made me feel a LOT better about my temps.
Thanks for sharing man!
I just got a 06 3500 Megacab SRW, my 1st Diesel, still learning.
Is it an auto or manual?
Auto, 4 speed, 48RE
I offer tuning for these rigs that will make them FAR more drivable:
smartyresource.com/forums/topic/2245-transmission-and-engine-tuning-for-03-07-trucks/
i've never really been a huge diesel truck guy, but man. we had a nice 03 6 speed 24valve in the shop the other day. i got to drive it to alignment and going to drop it off at the customers and i fell in love. such a nice truck
The drone of the Cummins and the spool of the turbo is so intoxicating. This one sounds better than my 6.7.
Remove your silencer ring and it will sound better, 6.7s in general sound a lot better than the school bus 5.9s
I'm a trucker, and if I tried doing 65-70 in Cali it wouldn't be long before I saw blue lights.
55 is the speed limit for anyone towing, including RV's, but somehow you folks seem to be golden as as the highway patrol is concerned.
Haven't seen my first RV pulled over for speeding.
Good on ya, and be safe.
Just from a money point of view it is worth way more to the state to fine a commercial vehicle vs an RV.
Show me a single trucker doing 55 down I-5 and I’ll give ya 50$, if anything it’s the people pulling campers that go 55 because there scared shitless and their tow vehicle shouldn’t be carrying the weight they are or there above the age of 55
I tow with a 2001 dodge 5.9 4x4 2500 so3 tuned usually setting 3 or 5 trailer is only 7k pounds bumper pull love the 5.9 , we are retired so usually 63 mph . We live in Arizona
Man that view is amazing
I live there.
holy nice rigs from 5.50 to 6.12
and your truck tows like a beast
Thanks man!
Highest temp I ever saw on my edge was 1550. My probe is on the manifold. I like to party.
How long till we get there??!?!???? Hahaha must be kids in the RV?
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@@SJJsolomonSJJ I'm Still waiting on him to answer that damn question here in 2021! LOL
Yeah perfect timing to get on the radio too😂
@@kopplinfamily7529 So am I in 2023🤣🤣🤣
I love that drive when I go to visit family in Bakersfield.....
I have found if you keep them Screaming and out of overdrive and the turbo spooled up they stay pretty cool pulling mountains . But I have melted down a few engines 😂 ...mainly due to getting bad fuel though .
He is on the Tehachapi Pass Hwy 58, not the Cajon Pass which is I-15
I'm more amazed the dash isn't crack to shit
3rd gens baby not those overrated 2nds
@@AsianNIGMA the early 3rd gen dashes crack like the 2nd gens.
I have a 2nd and 3rd gen without crarcked dashes or rust here in the northwest. Also no emissions inspections for diesels in Oregon or Washington
ive used 303 protectant and a windshield visor since new in my 04.5, no cracks thus far. 320K miles.
I could live without the tenths..... That would drive me nuts.....
Hey bud. What tuning and/or trans upgrade are u running to be 65 mph @ 1700rpm.
“u too better shut up or you’re walking” as my dad would say if u stressed him out when he was pulling a trailer like this
Man do I need to regear for my tires... With a mild turbo and injectors, I'd be hitting 1400+ if I held 65 mph towing uphill.
It's the tune... you need a better tune.
What settings are you running? My 03 came with a smarty touch and I know nothing about mechanics. Have no idea if anything was done to the transmission but mine feels like a slug.......especially watching this video
I just ordered this setup from you and I'm super excited to give it a try. Your EGTs in the video are downright "chilly" compared to mine. I can't seem to get mine to go down from 1250. I have +50 injectors, exhaust and intake. Otherwise, stock 2005 G56 6sp manual. I've been using the good ole Smarty S-06(?) that I bought in 2009. Worked great on the #5 tune, but since adding the injectors, I'm down to #1 or #3 (no difference in EGTs between the two) and it's just hot all the time. Really looking forward to this new setup and your custom tunes.
Rob thanks for your business!
It’s probably the s06 that’s causing those egts, it’s a smoky hot tuner, maybe try the advanced timing settings?
@@codcade I did; didn't help. No matter; I got my new MM3 recently and temps are WAY down! Love this thing.
@@robgoffroad yeah, I’m glad you got them down, that s06 is for play and that’s it, custome tunes are the only good route for towing imo
Great vid brada👌
Tow Teton Pass.
Monarch Pass in Colorado is fun also.
I am looking at a 05, with 310,000 miles, brand new automatic transmission in it. 3500 dually truck.
If I buy it, keep the motor stock to keep the trany alive?
And can I get manual hubs for it? -- buying it to tow 20,000 pounds ISH. (I have a 40' goose neck, plan on hauling hay). Equipment (over mountain passes).
Im pulling a 2 car trailer with the bed filled with tires, 2005 5.9 cummins 2500 bone stock, stock auto trans, pulling roughly 10k pounds. Used to pulling around 6k and i go through a tone of giant hills here in Québec Canada to get to the race track.. im a little worried with the 10k pounds cause i do have to give her a lot to pull up the hills with only 6k. Am I worried for nothing or should i be good?
Hey I have a 3rd gen ram as well. I’m looking to get a trailer soon similar to yours. How do you like for the towing? Have you taken your trailer far? Las question how many does your camper sleep? I have a family of 4.
Towing is great especially with the tuning. These trucks were born to pull. 5th wheels tow so nice you can forget they are there, very smooth. Our trailer can sleep 6. 2 rear single bunks, dining room table turns into a bed, sofa turns into a bed and a queen in the bedroom.
I have a 2006 Dodge 5.9 Cummins with a 4 speed Auto, and would like to pull a 20K RV with it, Would you recommend it? If so what Modifications would you recommend?
Please email me robd at mm3tuning.com
That dash tho
how easy and necessary is this tuner to install. I have a 2005 Dodge with a 5.9 and am planning a drive that will take me over the rocky mountains. Also do you allow the the tow/haul do the braking down the back side of the mountain or do you assist it with normal braking. Do you find that when you brake it is the ideal amount or would you suggest a braking module as well. Ill be towing 10000 lb travel trailer.
Trent the tuner is very easy to install, plug and play. If you get your mm3 or touch (get an mm3 if you're going to get my tunes) I can get you tuned up within 24 hours. Ive had nothing but pleased customers so far.
I do use tow haul to brake a bit, but without a pacbrake installed it's only mildly effective. Make sure your trailer brakes are working well on all axles and keep your speeds low.
I should add, if you have an exhaust brake already but have no controller for it, I can activate ecm control for you.
Be careful with those EGTs, they get to hot and rings expand past their gap shattering like glass.
Hey man, I have a few questions about tuning. I do plan on something different in the future, but I have an edge cts2 evolution now, and would like to use it for maybe another year. I love it, but I'd like some tips how to keep them egts down. Just changing the timing advancement and rail pressure and what not. There are very limited options, but I can't use much power before I hit 1200 degrees. Any recommendations on that tunner settings? Its an 06 3500 ccsb g56 3.73 on 34s. I do have a banks exhaust brake and s&b intake, and mbrp 4inch high flow muffler, no cat.
Jack in as much timing advance as you can👍
Your website must be down. Are you selling your tune? I have an 07 5.9 I’d like to have this for.
www.5-9diesel.com
What happened to your site? I just went there and it only shows injectors now.
That's just the injector page, got to www.5-9diesel.com
@@DieselCamper Got it, Thanks!
Still like my 03 I bought new in 02.
Good Afternoon SIr,
What all do you recommend I do to my stock 2006 ram 2500 Megacab 4x4?
Get some tuning from www.mm3tuning.com
Do you offer any tuning for the 6.7 in the 07 3500?
On the mechanical side of things, did you perform any modifications to your transmission setup? We have a 2005 1-Ton Dually Crew Cab that flashes incredibly quick and your transmission tuning (software side) is superb. I believe you have a longer final drive ratio rear end (ours is the 4.10:1).
Hoping that I can use my HPTuners on our truck this year, but it might not give as much flexibility as your Smarty MM3 setup.
I did a mild build with red eagle clutches, shift kit, low stall TC, Kevlar front band and billet accumulator.
My tunes won't work with hp tuners, but mm3 is good to go.
Have you done any work with the 6.7 Cummins yet. I have a 2012
I believe he just deals with the 3rd gen trucks.
How many miles on your rig. Any trans problems ???
300k now. Trans got rebuilt at about 250 and no issues.
My Trans on my 06 made it to 312 thousand, I was pretty proud of that
You still got tunes for the 5.9 2007
You betcha: www.5-9diesel.com
I have the same truck with a edge tuner, cold air intake, 5in turbo back exhaust. When towing 8K TT thru the hills of Western PA my ECT's can get up over 217. How hot is to hot for ECT's for this engine?
That's a totally reasonable coolant temp for towing up a pass. Also if you can keep your trans cool by locking the TC it won't be dumping that heat into the coolant through the heat exchanger...
Define cool trans temps.. for example @200 ect. 80°f outside temp . Roughly where should they be?
@@thatdudewonu Yea 200 is not bad from what I have seen towing. The only time I saw more 210-230 was when I was towing a steep grade with lots of switch backs. The trans floating between 1st and 2nd and the torque converter never really locked up. I had the extra deep pan from ATS so my trans ran very cool most of the time 160-180 even towing highway. You don't want them to cool from what I have heard. They need to get warm enough to get any condensation out.
@@thatdudewonu today my monitor read 200-205 trans oil temp, unloaded,95 degrees out today, kinda of stop and go traffic, that seem right?
Adam that's normal. I wouldn't start to "worry" about the trans temp until it hits 230+. Of course if you know it's slipping you want to stop that right away regardless of temp.
is your truck 3.73 or 4.10 gear? stock size tires?
373 and stock tires
@@DieselCamper Would you ever consider 3.42 gears? I currently have 4.10 gears in my stock 03 Dually manual. I've been thinking about changing them
Scott Bickford If you’re towing at all 3.73 is a good middle ground. My 2500 gets about 19-20mpg at 80 mph ish (125-130 km/h) on 3.73s
So basically this video tells me that you can use a 3rd gen Ram to hotshot. That’s the debate I’m having with myself right now. I just don’t want to get stranded anywhere.
I don't see why you couldn't...
Where did you get your custom tune?
From Rob D on smartyresource.com
Does your smarty touch on your 2005 show trans temp
Yes but I've heard others with a 2005 say theirs doesnt
How much horsepower/torque
Is this the 4 speed?
Yes, it's the 48RE auto trans.
Man towing is confusing. Would that truck stock be able to pull a 10,000 lb trailer safely up and down that mountain?
J M yeah as long as you don’t mash the accelerator going up, and ride the brake the whole way down. This is what they’re made for.
J M Why’s it confusing?
No that's not a 10000 pound trailer I'm guess he means its tagged for 10000 pounds capacity. That means It can hall 10k not that it weighs 10k
These trucks can haul 20k. I had 6000 lbs of gravel just in my bed the other day.
Whats your setup for mods? Just custom tuning?
Well my bad its in video lol
Tell me about your tuner please.
Dan send me an email robd@mm3tuning.com
Is it normal for ur coolant temp to be over 200?
If the truck is working absolutely 👍
I got an 05 cummins with 35s. Towing i trailer i will easy hit 1350-1470 egts. I have juice with attitude, s&b intake 4in straight pipe. Camt understand is it the edge running hot or thats how this truck is because ill hit same egt numbers power level 0
The edge probably didn't do much timing adjustment in the mid rpm high load region of the timing maps. The result is fuel is injected late and exhausted while still burning sending your power out the exhaust pipe.
I can most likely fix that for you by the way...
Diesel Camper i bought smarty touch today and will give it a shot. If something i will try to contact you
One thing to keep in mind is the touch won't alter your transmission at all. MM3 Tuning will and will give you the same power levels the touch has...
www.mm3tuning.com
4:45 tach
Does the tuner lock the converter in 3rd or do you use a switch?
The ECM is reprogrammed to lock it in 3rd
@@DieselCamper what programmer are you using for your trans?
Mine is a Smarty Touch but I recommend the MM3, they are very similar but the MM3 is intended for use with custom tunes and includes all hardware for shift on the fly tuning👍
What all is done to the truck?
Just a 5" turbo back exhaust and programming.
@@DieselCamper id be careful towing with a tune on, expecially without trans work/ headstuds
there is not pyro before your turbo!?
I had my pyro, 1 straight in manifold, and pyro 2 after turbo
Hey how did you set the torque management lower than stock? And how high is your oil trans tamp? I was pulling a 24foot camper on a hot day and my transmission temp was 210 farenheit. Is that too high? Can you tell me the best level for towing please?
210 is just fine. The stock trans temp dummy light doesn't even come on until 265. I'm not sure about the torque, I may have meant stock.
Diesel Camper i have a rebuild tranny so how high is you transmission going when you pull a camper? I was driving today and my transmission was on 195 with out pulling.
Usually 220ish going up a pass. If you can keep your TC locked it should stay there or lower. If your 40mph or below you can manually shift into 2nd and it will lock the TC.
Diesel Camper how do you lock the Tc? And what is it?
is the exhaust system stock on that truck as well?
It has a 5" turbo back exhaust
is it loud in the cab? i have a 4 inch and it is pretty loud for long trips
It was SUPER loud when I was running a straight pipe. I welded the resonator back in and now it's fine.
Diesel Camper one of my friends has a 06 5.9 with a 5 inch turbo back straight pipe, he spent an extra 3-500$ sound deatonating it and is way more dailyable, he uses it for towing construction equipment and materials atleast twice a week and says that you cant really tell its been straight piped
Yeah you can use a resonator or a calculated section of pipe t'd off of the main pipe to help with the resonation.
What monitor/tuner is that?
It is a smarty touch
@@DieselCamper thank you!
Hey, what tuner/heads up display do you use in this video?
It is a smarty touch which is identical hardware to the MM3
How many miles You get per gallon
18 mixed
no tow haul mode?
Tow/Haul is on I see it.
Factory trans?
Yes
Do you still have the truck
Till they pry my dead body out of it...
@@DieselCamper hell yeah brother! My 07 6.7 is the same way. Unfortunately here in ohio shes really rusty but gonna fix that soon. Good vid man
Stock trans? Could you list your mods?
I have a transgo shift kit, red eagle clutches, Kevlar 2nd band, and billet accumulator. A pretty mild build.
With a shift kit it will have better clutch holding power. The input shaft should be fine unless you're doing boosted launches or racing. Just for a 100hp uprate you should be fine if you drive with some sense.
I just recently went to sw3 on the smarty. No racing are launches its my work horse. Anything else i should change on the sw3 setting? 4inch exh,cai and thats it for mods
I think youd be ok at SW5 and long as you don't burry the pedal towing up a grade. What year is your truck?
2003 and as far as tune sw5 should help with towing?
judging by my trucks performance up the 14 it is garbage. Gotta change it up.
Hit me up!
Drop a gear! your RPMs are way to low for that load!
I like to put my sensor befor the turbo., WHaaat. OK LOST FAITH
What's the issue?
I dont get your issue....thats a more accurate EGT reading.
U need water meth!!!!!
400hp tune.... doubt it buddy
Why do you doubt it? The 6BT Cummins from Chrysler can easily gain 100hp by tuning alone with no hard parts. Major injection timing changes and some minor fuel changes.
Lol you must not know much about diesel trucks or tuning in general.
@@tonystone6955 yea but i think i kinda do bud i work on them everyday and iv owned a few😂😂
@@treyster3000 for someone who works on the all the time your not familiar with the termonology.when someone states a tune typically it's the stock hp number and the added tune hp numbers.
@@tonystone6955 well i seem to know alot of folks with diesels and i cant think of anybody who says it that way🤔🤔
You may already know this, but towing with someone in the trailer is not only illegal but incredibly dangerous/deadly.
It's actually not illegal in many states, including mine.
Look it up on good Sam’s website it will tell you which states allow it. Lots of states actually do.
To each Their own. Mind your own business
LOL follow your own advice and mind your own.
@@mrhotdog1968 you started it shitler