Ep1: Covering Dyno Tuning, Cams, Exhausts, Tuning Modules & More with
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- Опубліковано 11 лип 2024
- I decided to reach out & speak to Matt Smith from @TheDynoGuy in Florida & talk all things tuning & performance.
Matt is a well known Harley-Davidson tuner & I often have comments from viewers that mention my work to him & Matt's work to me so I thought what better way to talk to each other about some of the pit falls we see in the tuning industry, some of the common misconceptions & errors some people can make when choosing a cam.
We touch on correction factor that DynoJet Dynamometers use.
Stock Clutch baskets & transmissions of the M8 engine.
AFR collection processes.
This is a first time podcast style interview for me so please bare with me as I stumble through the new style of filming & even doing the interview process.
My aim is to bring more of this type of content to you all for & shed as much professional information as possible to you all to avoid any comment section confusion.
We aim to delve deeper into more specific topics & talking points as well polish the process further.
In the future I would like to bring on more guests, such as Wes & Pam from Cycle-Rama (if they're interested of course) & get to know them on more of a personal level as well as getting an inside view into the Cycle-Rama shop & all the machine work they do.
If you liked this video, please let me know in the comments & I will be sure ti produce much higher quality video for the next interview. Also please let me know who you would like to see on the channel & I will reach out to them & try make it happen.
00:00 Introduction
01:31 Who Is Matt Smith & TDG
03:15 Cams Overview
09:46 Fuel Injectors
13:45 Correction Factors
17:24 Elevation
19:48 Stock Clutches
23:24 VVT
26:00 Tuning Devices
29:30 02 Collection
31:24 Cat Converter
32:28 Sum Up
33:42 Outro - Авто та транспорт
Great idea, to have professionals in the industry share their knowledge with the public. Keep it up.
Thanks for watching & providing feedback. Stay tuned as we take a deeper dive onto many of the covered topics in this video. As this was out first go at a video we wanted to cover as much as possible.
Thanks so much for all of your great content......I'm a Marine Chief Engineer but still find your info very helpful!
@@victoryengineer thanks for watching 👍
This is great, got my build from Miller and Matt came up to Massachusetts and tuned my bike. You guys collaborated last year didn't even know it lol. 131 build with CR512 on low rider s
Well there you go! How cool is that!
Thanks for being a supporter of the channel 🙌
I hope you are enjoying your bike
Loved the format and content. You already mentioned the improvement ideas. Keep it going but don’t stop the builds, we love that too. Cheers!!!
awsome vids , lots of usefull info . tuned cars for years but know nothing about harleys . just bought one with plenty of mods , its good to use your info to validate those modifications .
Love this format. MORE OF THIS for sure!!
Thanks for watching. These are much easier for me to edit & upload so I want to make this a regular thing.
Really enjoyed the discussion. Thanks for doing this for your channel.
Thanks for the awesome feedback
Absolutely love this kind of video! Hopefully you can keep doing this various tuners and builders
Cycle-Rama & APE have both already agreed to be on the channel
Thanks Tommy, great content. Looking forward to more of these videos!
Glad you like them!
I can't believe you don't have more views/subscribers. Your content is top knotch. I just found your channel and am loving watching your older videos. Keep up the good work.
Thanks for watching & supporting the channel. Much appreciated 🙏
Matt Smith...my builder / tuner....awesome!
Nice vid. Good idea on the podcast type vid. Good info &looking forward to your next vid. 👍
Thanks for watching! I'm hoping get more of this style out there for you folks
& quickly. These types of videos are much quicker for me to edit & upload.
Great Vids mate. Have been watching with alot of interest. Have been applying alot your suggestions to my build.
Thanks for watching & I greatly appreciate the feedback & support for the channel.
I'm glad I have been of some influence for you
Love the new format, cool hearing more in depth info. I put a 483 in my bike because of your videos!
Thanks for watching & supporting the channel.
The 483 is a great Camshaft. I bet you are loving it
@@MasterTechMiller its phenomenal, did the 64mm throttle body, 5.5 injectors, HPI breather and Thunderheader. Insane midrange power and unmatched sound.
Yes the 483 has an incredible sound! I'm glad your loving it mate!
Good video mate, very informative. Looking forward to more of the videos and especially the guys you mentioned
Thanks for watching! APE have already agreed to be on the channel so it won't be long now.
@@MasterTechMiller that’s awesome, looking forward to it
Nice work 👏👏👏
Great video, Alpha & CycleRama are great suggestions Tommy.
No problems with the video. Tech is best!
Thanks for watching & providing feedback 👍💯
Awesome content as always mate 🤘
Thanks for watching
Thank you incredibly iinformative. Great idea with the podcast
Thanks for watching and providing feedback.
@@MasterTechMiller thoroughly enjoy all videos you have submitted Wil
As a home mechanic who builds his own bikes '3 twin cams' up to stage 4, I am very interested in these type of videos. Looking forward to more of them!
Thanks for watching! I am looking forward to doing more of them
Top stuff Tommy 👍🍻
Thanks for watching
Good info on the injector sizing.
Thanks for watching
Thanks great content
Thanks for watching
Hey mate, new subscriber and well done enjoyed this video and information. Tuning is definitely a hot topic with so many different opinions with no one definitive answer.
Thanks for watching! Stay tuned for more podcast style interviews with Matt as we aim to dive deeper into tuning & it's processes
Excellent video gentlemen. Found it very usefull. I've got 3 x Stage 4 Harleys, different models and years, the latest one being a 2023 RKS with the 131ci kit etc, built for me by War's HD in London. I've used Dynojet on all three bikes, and have a Powervision permantley connected to the RKS. I've had many a conversation about CAM's etc, so found this video especially interesting and helpful. If fact, I could do with some advice / recommendations please. I'm looking to add some more ''umph' to the 131 (HP and Torque, currently at 138 and 148), but I don't want to do much more than change the CAM, and any related components directly linked to it's ability to perform and deliver as it should and to it's best-as ability (such as adjustable rods, injectors (6.2gps so i've been told), lifters, cuffs, and possibly manifold bore to 64mm)). I've also been told the CR515 (not a CAM that well known over here) is probably to best CAM to go for. (I ride it a lot - European touring, around town, short and long trips, solo and 2 up, and I love to use it's full capability when and where i can over here in England 😁- so an all rounder CAM is preferred). To end a long message, yours and Matt's advice and recommendations would be grealy appreciated, thanks, Buzz.
Good stuff
Brilliant
Respect, great video as always, greetings from Germany ✌Harry
Danke fürs zuschauen
It was a good video. I have also been in the dealer for a long time. I’d like to get some info on torque biased tables.
Great info and chat! Would've loved some chapters/bookmarks in the video to go back to to help break up the 34 mins into topics cause you guys covered a lot
Ahh yep good point. I'll be sure to put them in on my up coming videos with Matt, Cycle-Rama & APE.
Thanks for the feedback
Have added chapters to the video now. Hope that helps mate. Thanks again for the feedback & suggestion.
@@MasterTechMiller Appreciate you taking the time out to do this!
@jamesp6128 no problem. I will be doing this to all my future podcast style interviews & I will add them to my existing videos too (in time)
Awesome discussion. Would of enjoyed a brief discussion on the advantages of using wide band 02 sensors when perfecting a tune.
In short, wide band sensors read from 10:1 up to 18:1
Narrow band sensors read between 14.2:1 to about 14.8:1
The advantages are huge with a wide band sensors/s as setting up the target Air/Fuel Ratio can be accurately set across the entire table. Not just in the cruising areas.
@@MasterTechMiller Thank you. Hypothetically-if during the tuning phase, wide band O2 sensors are installed in the existing 18mm O2 sensor bungs of the headers of the V&H True Duals on a 2008 96 CI FLSTC with a Stage 1 base map from SE (4 pin 1952 based ECM) and dyno tuned using a PV, how will that optimised tune work when you reinstall the OEM O2 sensors?
@schachat01 in just about all cases a dyno tune is carried out with wide band sensors either installed in the OEM bungs or up the back of the exhaust pipes with a copper tube.
When a dyno tune is carried out the entire AFR table is set & adjusted to. The benefits of using wide band is able to set the VE values across the entire table.
Where with narrow band sensors they only operate within a certian rpm & throttle position range of the AFR table. (Generally around the cruising speeds).
When using wide band sensors we can optimise the areas outside the narrow band window therefore having a great tune inside the narrow band window & outside of it.
Once the tune is completed with wide band sensors and the OEM narrow band sensors are installed again the tune remains fixed to what has been set outside of the narrow band window. The narrow band area (otherwise known as closed loop) is constantly being adjusted by the OEM narrow band sensors to achieve the best economy possible.
Hope this helps. I'm not the best at describing things in a txt format.
@@MasterTechMiller Thank you👍🏻
Always love the content are there any other channels you guys follow that are similar to your own. Thanks
Not that I'm aware of mate.
Thanks for checking out my content though 👍
It would be good for you guys to talk about the exhausts on the baggers. For both the guys with specials and the 2 into one guys. Especially with how you guys have seen im assuming some massive differences with some certain brands systems and where in the range thT difference is seen.
That seems to be the information missing online. "Is the exhaust i like the look of going to hinder or help my bike? And if hinder is it liveable or woeful?"
Absolutely! We aim to take a deep dive into topic specific videos in the future and cover as many topics as possible. Thanks for watching.
I have got good information on your topic keep it coming
Thanks for watching! I'm glad you enjoyed it
Another awesome video, i wanted to quiz you on my build ive just completed. Fxdr 128 sns, se stage 1 ported heads, 64mm throttle body, extreme heavy breather and cr485. 11:1 comp. 5.5 injectors.
135hp 147 torque. I feel like we shortchanged ourselves with the cam or compression ratio with the heads? Is there a different cam you reccomend to get more power down low? I had a 128 with cr483 stock heads that i feel actually had more power and came on earlier. Still bloody quick but im always chasing more!
If you're sitting at 11.0:1 with those heads the comp ratio is fine for the CR485. The reason your 483 felt faster is because the torque comes in a little earlier than 485. The 485 makes a little more power up top.
What pipe do you have at the moment?
@@MasterTechMiller a d&d bobcat
@m8_fanatic oh yeah. It's not a bad pipe, probably a little short for my liking but still better than a TBR 2-1.
The shorter 2-1 pipes generally prove to have a soft spot in the 2500 to 3000rpm range.
If your after all out grunt off the bottom I would suggest going with the CR480 from Cycle-Rama. You won't make as much peak HP but it will pull a shit load harder off the bottom than the 483 or 485.
You could go with the new CR515 from Alpha Performance Engines which works great in flowed heads but you'd need to bump your comp ratio up to around 11.5:1 but you'll make 150hp with that cam & around 150ft/lbs but your pipe may still shoe a small 'soft spot' in the low rpm range
Tommy lets do the tough subject= softail exhaust choice!
That's a great talking point. We will definitely be exploring all things performance & tuning in future videos so I will make sure we do that.
With the Direct Link and Powervision how are you collecting and manipulating the torque management, without forcing the ecm to read the twistgrip instead of the throttle blade?
What issues are you having & what tuner are you using?
tommy is the stealth 02 sensor system from tecknoresearch better than the system from dyno jet it looks like the teckno dosnt need pump as the dyno jet one dose is it the vacume tubes mounted on side of o2 block that allows this
I can't comment on the DynoJet one as I have never used it. Sorry.
You guys talk about tuners and cover all the aftermarket tuners and don't want to touch on HD tuners but there is a whole lot of riders out there that want to keep there warranty intact and are ONLY limited to the SE tuners, would be nice to have some feedback for the warranty crowd. 👍
Noted.
@@MasterTechMiller
Thank you for the quick response 👍👌
@MrPanchoPlanet no worries. Matt & I have already filmed another interview together so it won't be in the next upload (in a few days). But we will make an effort to cover it in the next one.
hi Tommy i'm a little unclear on tuners? Does your software have the ability to modify the map in the ecu? or do you still need some type of addon module? thx.
Yes. The tuning device & software I prefer has totally adjustment over all the critical tables & constants of the ECM to properly tune the bikes.
I prefer to use the Direct Link Tuning device from Technoresearch
@@MasterTechMiller thx whenever I see dyno videos that part is usually glossed over. .
Very tough to make a live style video and keep the conversation flowing.
We were wandering all over the place a bit trying to find topics to talk about.
It's always harder with a two way video than just doing your own thing.
For a tech based content especially, I'd suggest actually scripting some notes about what you want to talk about with bullet points for each topic, and each of you have a copy and go over it before shooting. I know time can be a limiting factor here .
Note that video quality is not a huge factor in the talking head style you were shooting, so don't stress over that.
Good first attempt though, keep them coming.
I truly appreciate the feedback & support.
I have definitely taken a lot away from both what you have said, along with other & re-watching it myself.
I plan to do more these in the future so I will see how the revised process works out.
Thanks again for your input.
When I did the cam in my M8 I spend ages learning about how cams work and understanding all the durations and effects. I was extremely disappointed with the online information and total BS out there. I think a big problem is dyno charts too, its a representation of a WOT run only and people use it as bible for choosing a cam. The amount of people I found when researching that only wanted to know what it sounded like at idle made me want to get rid of my harley.
G’day tommy ‘ great information mate ‘ lovin the pod cast style interview’ i have’s question for you ‘ im thinking of putting a cr 480 ‘ or 485 just on your recommendation say ‘ at the moment im running a wood 22XE ‘ and I do love it ‘ question is will I feel a substantial difference if I go with a cr 485 ‘ thanks any info will be great ‘ cheers mate 👍
What is your current bike & setup as far as displacement, exhaust & air filter?
Yeh mate it’s 2018 slim’ Arlen ness big sucker’ bassani rr ‘ its pulled 106 hp and 113 tq ‘ it’s also got all the s&s goodies ‘ oil pump cam plate ‘ and push rods ‘ my tech down in Victoria whent with the fueling lifters ‘ apart from that that’s it’ and if so would it be a only cam swap if I decide to go a cr cam cheers mate ‘ lovin all the stuff you put out cheers 👍
This was a great source of information and we really appreciate you taking the time to put this video together for us.
Look forward to another one and I personally would be happy if the video went for even longer.
Overall awesome video mate, keep up the good work! 👍🏼
Thanks for watching & providing awesome feedback! I am very much looking forward to creating more of these in the very near future. Cycle-Rama & A.P.E have both already agreed to be on the channel so stay tuned.
this guy has been taking a beating here in the states about how he uses std on the dyno
while everybody else uses SAE. I build my engines but Iam not a tuner dave stoddard tunes my bikes
good video tommy I do have a question on a high comp 131 do you think 6.3 injectors
is good for 160 horsepower ? or should i jump to like 7.1 thanks tommy
Thanks for watching mate. The 6.2 injectors will accommodate 160hp for sure.
If you have a man of war would you use this or just stick with the ramp?
I would personally stick with the upgraded Billet steel option from Cycle-Rama.
Pick the right cam for your normal riding style.... & the customer has to be truthful for themselves in the long run.... Or they will be extremely disappointed.
Why not use a EXUP valve instead of a baffle.
Any content about Harley's, Dyna's, Twincam's.... Screaming Eagle products would be GREAT
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We will dive into it all mate. Our first go at it worked out pretty good I think so. We are definitely keen to do more
@@MasterTechMiller great content 💪 well done Boyz
I got a "17 FXDB Dyna Streetbob 103 Twincam stock, only Stage1 Bassani Sweepers 2-2, SE Heavy Breather & can't forget Feuling vented dipstick 💪...
It's close to 90,000km & going in the shop soon for build work, so appreciate all your advice now more than ever💛💪
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