The Original Arthur - Red Dead Cut Content
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
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Today I discuss and theorize the cut version of Arthur Morgan that we’ll never get to see.
Thanks to @Snook_YT for being the voice of Dan Houser
Video inspired by @sxrdo
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@rdr.outlaw
@VoyagersRevenge
(Soon to be updated)
Paint it black intro song:
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Hi bro for your next video can do what happend to Johnny Klebitz after the events of Lost And Dammed and what lead to him becoming a meth addict idk if you've done it before but it would an amazing vid to watch
Damn good idea
Alright Mr "real estate agent" , Mr "happily married" , Mr "has a son" , mr "martial artist"
@@Waxyyy
Context : He says that he has a better life than mine because I am 16 and he's 32 , even though he's acting like a manchild , I asked him what does he do in life , and he said : "I work for the ip global , I am happily married and have a son , and I am also trained in martial arts, I have a way better life than you kiddo" , nah this gotta be some kid in disguise ☠️💀
"what lead to him becoming a meth addict"
it's called Shitty writing
@@IanFromSmoshReal so people in real life get addicted to drugs because of shitty writing?
They should’ve have used the “Vengeful Arthur” lines for low honor.
theres a mod that adds these lines to arthur when he fights lawmen
@@keecko8169 well than tell us the mod!
@@boolets22not sure if this is the exact one he’s talking about but there is a mod on the nexus called cut dialogue restoration and enhancement which sounds like what hes talking about as it restores a lot of cut voice lines
@@blingiman i found it already but thanks bro
@@keecko8169what’s the mod?
It's easy to feel sad about cut content, but just remember how much they gave us
They gave us all they had
@@matej1608😂
@@matej1608 they did
I wouldn't be as disappointed with rockstar if it wasn't for how bad they did john in the epilouge
@@MicroWave233fr if they just fix him I wouldn’t care about all this
This angry Arthur would have one-punched Micah and killed him. JEEZ
One look from this Arthur to Micah and Micah behaves himself.
From the way John described his time in the gang in RDR1, this version of Arthur would've definitely been more fitting, but I'm still happy with the way they wrote him in the end.
Yeah, with the gang being a more violent band of rebels and freedom fighters rather than a big group of criminal misfits just trying to survive. I also wish we saw the more ruthless young John from RDR1.
@@themadtitan7603 yeah we dont see him as a ruthless outlaw much
@@Gabriel-ki7uj Agreed. He felt mostly sidelined and passive. Not a ruthless outlaw who steals, kills and threatens out of zealous loyalty to Dutch and is an active participant in the plans. The only time he came off this way is in the oil wagon train heist - he came up with the idea and shouted at & threatened the passengers.
A lot of things could of been more fitting rdr2 and rdr1 don’t even feel connected tbh they feel so different and so many plot holes and downgraded John
@@DeadX2They did a decent job for connecting the dots. The retcons that some braindead like to complain about are irrelevant. For exemple it was never stated that John was left in blackwater ferry job or that it happened in 1906 or some die hard John’s fans that hold on the idea that he was Dutch’s right hand man because of that Bill line in the beginning of the game. They handled Dutch perfectly , they hinted that Bill was a dumb fool which they respected. « Oh John’s should’ve been more important » Well he was important , he was the first one along Hosea to see through Dutch’s bullshit and doubt him , which showcase his intelligence and explain’s Dutch resentment for him , he was part of two of the best missions in chapter 2 , he had one job with the grays and was part of the braithwate assault ( obviously) , main actor in the beginning of chapter 4 , he participated in the saint denis robbery , he was a major character in chapter 6 and a whole part of Arthur’s redemption arc was dedicated to him , seems like some og fans wanted him to be part of every second of the game and be a playable character , they handled his personality well in the 1899 storyline , we could see his sarcastic unbothered personality ( they did a bad job with him in the epilogue doe) so i really don’t get the issue. And as for those who say that Arthur is copy past of rdr1 john , i prefer not to answer lmaoo
I wish they kept the vengeful voice lines for low honor Arthur
Yes his deeper tone is more menacing for sure
Can get them back on pc I think. Sadly no way on console. Even John has them
I think those are Arthur's combat lines in general which were mostly cut and only occasionally trigger in the game.
Yeah
A good arc with this vengeful arthur is realizing he’s no better than Micah or Dutch, making his redemption more impactful
That’s true that would be pretty sigma
@@Waxyyyskibidi
It would also have him learn that vengeance is an idiot's game, rather than starting out already believing that. Giving him more of a growth than just trying to help people after actualizing the goodness that's already there.
No. It would just make his redemption less believable.
@@Nevad25 how
I think vengeful Arthur is cool in theory, I think a big problem you see with this is people go “oh this would have been so awesome cause of how I have imagined it in my head.” This also would have to completely overhaul a lot of the side mission, I just don’t see this much colder Arthur helping a guy take animal pictures, looking for Dino bones, or rock carvings immediately after coming down the mountain
It could’ve worked if side missions weren’t written as linear and offered a different colder approach
@@BrvmleyJust stop. It wouldnt have worked. This is why you're not a story writer.
@@Echidneys why are you being a dickhead fuck lmao
That is true.However,your throwing this version of arthur into vanilla arthurs story so it obviously wouldn't fit into the story.While we understand this arthur is a lot more meaner and violent,we still don't understand his full personality.
I mean John was pretty brutal in rdr1, yet he still got to do side missions
I'm relieved that this was cut because this game is already heart breaking as hell without arthur's newborn dying at beginning
I'd be interested in seeing this vision for Arthur but without the part of Isaac dying at the start. I think it works better for Arthur's arc to have his son's death take place before the story as be indirectly due to him trying to be a father and an outlaw loyal to Dutch. With that information recontextualizing his character for us. It also parallels John's story and adds to their dynamic that he's trying to prevent the latter from repeating that same life choice.
@themadtitan7603 well it would still pararell John's story the way it is now and like you said having to be a father and loyal then having your son die because of it still applies to canon arthur , he was loyal to the gang so he wasn't there to protect his family. So he wants to make sure John is there for his family. So while I think it's a cool concept I understand why they got rid of that storyline because his son dies regardless and we wouldn't have those good funny times in,chapter 2 like we do now
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Why are you relieved this is better than what’s in the game
4:17 THAT IS ONE HUGE BABY, HOLY MOLY
😂😂😂😂😂
That's Francis Sinclair 😂
yeah hes a chonker fr
That "i'm sending you to hell' was scary af
also the original arthur is tall and big, peoples describes him as a mountain man
He's big in vanilla game too, you just can't tell because you're playing as him. Spawn him as a NPC he's huge
In the final product he's a 6'1 broad shithouse of a man, very much a mountain man.
@@Rudyard-wy3wsI wish I was 6.2
@@ArabianRazumZar Arthur in vanilla is 6,1 200 pounds how is that small
He also has better clothes in beta
Never thought I'd see an acoustic cover of a song about the Vietnam War used for a western game... but it actually fits
i argue that having this in the game would make arthurs final sacrifice of saving john and his family that much more meaningful since we (the player) will literally witness arthur lose his own family on-screen
4:53 Just a heads-up, but this is not Eliza in the screenshot. It's a different cut character discovered in the files as 'Leon's niece' who would've been part of the larger Guarma storyline. The Leon in question is one of the rebels we save from hanging in 'Savaegry Unleashed'.
ahhh my bad, I might cut this out of the video later
@@Waxyyy It's cool. Great video and a banger of an intro, as usual.
@@themadtitan7603 thank you brother 🙏
And here
@@Waxyyythen someone will have to do a cut content video for you
6:01 that gun fire transition was clean
That opening trailer is *THE* hardest edit I've ever seen, nothing else compares.
Now this..THIS is a very well done video good sir! Accurate yet emotional, awesome dude!!
Thank you!
That intro has such beautiful cinematography! The panning shots, the close ups and actions shots, so good! And the music fit the theme very very well! Really makes you feel like the gang is this ominous dark presence that people fear.
@@armored.heathen13 thank you!
I would have liked to have seen the angrier and more violent Arthur as it would have given him something more substantial to redeem from and it would explain away certain interactions with people in the world and how they view him such as the O'Driscolls fearing him and labelling him "Van Der Linde's Bruiser" and even Jimmy Brooks being absolutely terrified of Arthur. Also the way certain gang members are stand offish with Arthur at times for example when Grimshaw thanks Arthur for helping save Tilly she gives him a backhanded compliment about being good but only sometimes.
To add it would coincide better with the way the narrative progresses and it definitely shows that this was the original plan for Arthur's characterisation.
Just want to say that the first 1:15 with Paint it Black was amazing. I replayed that a bunch of times. It fits so perfectly together.
I think it would have been great to have a more dark Arthur at the start of the game then see him slowly change his way through the game and accepting what happened to his child all of that anger and hate it would have been pretty cool i like the Arthur we got but he wasn't that bad he did beat up that guy that gave him tb but i feel like he wasn't that bad
I think it would've been better if Arthur is much colder and have that appearance. Imagine playing a devilish character that is haunted by the death of his son, dismantling everyone in his path and couldn't get a goodnights rest from dresming about wolves or his family. I think the redemption would be unforeseen or drastic in that regard. It's like playing as Micah where you feel he is hopeless and wouldn't change and then in a blink of an eye he slowly coming in to terms with the death of his family, accepting that fact, and the fact that his days with TB is coming to an end resl soon.
Love it! Thank you! 🙏 great deep dive into characters
6:06 this line makes me want to see this vengeful arthur
what a badass fucking intro killer job
Thank you 🙏
paint it black 😵 guitar hero nostalgia
They were kinda foolish for cutting Eliza just because they cut Isaac. She could have found out she was pregnant in Chapter 2 bringing about a feeling of happiness only to lose the baby, or die altogether because of actions taken by Dutch later on in the game, maybe in chapter 5 or 6... worse yet, off screen in the aftermath of the botched Saint Denis bank robbery. Dutch's words, "I had no choice" ringing through Arthur's head as he makes the decision to save John, Abigail, and Jack so they don't have to suffer the same fate he just did.
is nobody gonna talk about how dope the opening part of the video was
Those voice lines would've been so good in a similar context to what they wanted to do. Especially since in chapter two arthur gets a rep in valentine for being a trouble maker anyways. Plus this would pair very well with the camp convos with molly and Tilly where arthur vents about hurting innocent people. Would have been great
I think if they ever made rdr3 as a prequel to rdr2 it should be about the events right after the death of his son and where we get to see this much colder and brutal Arthur get revenge and try to accept the death of his son and somehow move on
so a prequel game on top of a prequel game that’s just crazy and funny😂
@@itwasntme6833it’s not that hard to believe. Rockstar intentionally is making red dead go backwards.
Rdr1 takes place after rdr2, and rdr2 takes place before rdr1. So when rdr3 comes out, it’ll take place before rdr2, and the ending will probably be the blackwater heist.
The Original Arthur Is Cold Amazing Video
Saved to watch later. Thanks for the content!
Np 🤙
@@Waxyyy just beat the game 2 days ago so now I’m going hard in the lore and extra content. Doing my second play through and taking my time to really get the full experience.
@@Waxyyy finally got home and watched it. Great vid 10/10. I’m personally glad they went the route they did with Arthur’s character
@@VibeASMR same
I wish the lower honor that you have as Arthur affects what lines of dialogue would be used
lets just imagine Arthur's redemption to high honor ending with the events of this cut content. imagine the journey he will go through as a character from cold and vengeful to caring for others. I would love it if Rockstar makes this a little DLC or makes a second version of the game like this. they already got some of this content, I feel like it would make the redemption of Arthur feel more satisfying at the end, like you actually committed your time to making Arthur a good guy
I feel like we should of had 7 chapters with ch1 being a tutorial in new austin and the end of ch1 being the Blackwater Massicar and then ch2 being the snow and so on
Amazing line from Dan Houser
from the man himself
One of my favorite details in rdr2 is during the cornwall confrontation in valentine, the reflection in arthurs eyes make it look like his eyes light up like the eyes of a predator at night.
The Cut version of Arthur implies the Arthur Morgan we got is uncircumcised
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He probably wouldn’t have tuberculosis because Strauss would think he would kill Thomas and Strauss even said don’t kill anybody
Imo Strauss would like the “vengeful” Arthur even more. Strauss even implied people are more enthusiastic to paying back to someone like Arthur. If Arthur was more ruthless and more intimidating, it would be much easier for debaters to be broken and give Arthur their debts back without any retaliation. All he said was killing debtors would be bad for buisness, but it wasn’t completely off the table. It’s clear Strauss doesn’t give a hell about any of the people he’s forcing money onto, he just cares about making money for the camp and taking advantage of the weak and gullible. Which is why the final version of Arthur had a choice to kick him out of camp in chapter 6.
Nope he will
What a beautiful video, especially that ending. So sad yet so relaxed
Man will forever be impressed by your video editing skills
Hat-off 🎩
I forgot that Roger Clark is Irish, his natural accent always surprises me every time I hear it lol.
I probably would have played Arthur as he was originally presented; a vengeful and miserable man. I’m glad this content was cut, otherwise I likely wouldn’t have given him the honorable end he deserved.
As compelling as I think Isaac freezing to death at the beginning is, it would’ve made Arthur a very bitter and somber character all the way through the story, right from the start. This would hugely detract from the best aspects of his character and the pivotal personality traits that push his redemption arch.
Game doesn’t even feel like it has cut content because there’s so much in it😂
That voice actor of Dan Houser has a great future ahead of him 👍🏻
Very great 😭
i really would’ve loved to see this arthur make the game, dark opening and all. imagine starting with the honor bar all the way in the negative and having to make your way up to high honor. i think that could’ve really expanded arthur’s morality struggle in chapter 6. almost like in spite of the bad life he lived and the terrible loss of his son, he finds hope for himself. imagine the sister calderon interaction with arthur explaining about how horrible he was.
This was the ultra low honor Arthur 💀
Honestly with all the cut content and all, I wouldn’t even want it because red dead 2 story was absolutely perfect. I loved every moment of it
Another thing is there are also voice lines from the New Austin and Blackwater sheriffs suggesting that Arthur could’ve accessed these places. Maybe (in-game) you could’ve gone to both places, only the second the law saw you or you hung around town for too long they would start chasing after you. (Just my theory)
Oh wow! This would have been a vastly different feeling game if it kicked off like that. Honestly as great as the story arc is, I think this might have driven home the “redemption” aspect in a really interesting way. Having him being such a vengeful trainwreck at the start. It would give low honor play-throughs more fuel for the fire and give high honor play-throughs some real palpable feeling of Arthur having redeemed himself by the end. Really interesting to imagine how different that game would be! Great edits btw!
@@tommoriarty8337 thank you
Normally, i would get sad over what we could have had, but i love arthur as he is, and I wouldn't want to change it
That intro was fire
thank you 🙏
Years later, from 2018, people are still making content off of rdr 2, which just goes to show how great and majestic that game actually was
god damn it Arthur is intimidating even in the actual game but this is somethin else
Vengeful dark brutal Arthur makes sense for the beginning of the game because he's an outlaw, then when he learns that he's sick he changes.
IMO vengeful Arthur feels too cliche for the low honor and I like that even low honor Arthur has a realistic human side to him. Amazing video!
this video has crazy good editing bro, wonderful video
The few lines you shared are very similar to how Abigail acts which i do believe played a part in her becoming cut content. Two kids and two wives who are always talking about hating John and Arthur may have been overkill
wake up babe nephew done posted a banger
Appearantly Arthur was supposed to have a Rifle Hostler but Rockstar didnt add a Option to add a Rifle hostler probably because thry dont know an Animation for it to equip and unequip or propably because everyone had Straps back then.
This is truly one of the best videos ive ever seen
Ok I think that an Arthur that takes his anger out on everything around himself, then gets hurt by his actions indirectly, then has a redemption after that might’ve been really cool too see. Idk that’s just me.
Would’ve been sick to hear paint it black as the dishonorable ending credits montage
7:15 bro I’m the only one who thinks that outfits in beta version are much better physique !?
I wish that coat was in the game
Oh man, im glad they cut Isaac dying in the opening. Can you immagine being excited to play RDR2 and the first thing you see is a baby freezing to death?
and it's the fault of idiotic people like you if rockstar didn't make that version
Pretty cool cut content ngl appreciate this! 💯
Rdr2 is near perfect, but i kinda wish we got this arthur instead. Not pretty boah. Good video btw i watched a few of yours and theyre all really good.
thank you
A "Vengeful Arthur" like Waxy pitched seems like he could've been a more complex character with a more significant difference from his later, post-TB personality to make his redemption more effective. With a design that better reflects his in-game description and his life as a veteran enforcer of a gang in the 1800s.
@@themadtitan7603 but he wouldn't have had mass market appeal, espcially to women. making him a pretty boy with a soft gentler side enabled Rockstar to market to a wider audience. but i agree this version sounds way more interesting as a character imo.
ya arthur losing a child at the start would have changed the whole tone
The main problem with this Arthur is that the tone would be far too serious and it would be difficult to see Arthur being happy if he lost his son just a few weeks back. I do think Rockstar set just the right tone for this game, its fun when it has to be and just as sad when the story calls for it.
I'm kinda glad they cut Iliza... it wouldn't be the same story and the story was awesome.
I wouldn't mind seeing this version of Arthur in a movie
A mix would have been nice. A very brutal, cold to the outside type at the beginning and than your actions later on would feel like a bigger impact
I think the version we got is the best version and the cut content version was very interesting but would only be best used for a short what if story
Cool video man the editing was top notch you are talented
Thank you 🙏
I think the pay off and character arc would've been much better for "vengeful Arthur". the scene where he goes to collect the debts and see the mother and kid would've been infinetly more impactful if he had a newborn that died in the begining of the story rather than that being something that happened years ago mentioned only in passing diaglogue.
if this was in addiition to the story we got, i think it wouldve made it even more emotional once the end came. we kept hearing he was a bad man and we got some of that. this wouldve added to it in a good way. they couldve release a mini prequel dlc but we all know why RDR2 didnt get any dlc
Correction: in the 4:55 that woman is not Eliza, its another removed character called Leon' s niece, Leon is that guy that help us escape from Guarma
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That intro was so rad bro, keep up the good work
thank you 🙏
In all honesty, I appreciate the changes Rockstar chose. The original concept was very cool indeed, but almost too skewed towards being a bad man for the players. Him being less morally gray and freshly traumatized would ultimately undermine themes of a “good man wrestling with a[n evil] giant” and more so a violent grieving man who comes to terms with trauma to them quickly die from TB. Cool idea, but too much to cover in a limited time frame, and would make playing Arthur “either way” make less sense, at least at first
Theres also a reference to a girl named Eliza, but in the serial killer lair where you capture Edmud Lowry theres a missing poster of Eliza Bloom on the wall, not sure if its the same girl but it could be intresting
The fake britsih accent for Houser ahahah
if rockstar would ever make a DLC for RDR2 it would be young arthur getting revenge for Eliza and Isaacs death, would open up similar to red dead revolver with a house and arthur standing on the graves of the two, and he wanders into many towns asking any information about the men that killed the both of them, and it will end similarly of arthur shooting the guy who killed them both in a similar way john did when he raided the other ranch with pronghorns men
Now this is 100% my own headcannon but I'm pretty sure in his younger days Dutch STOPPED Arthur from taking revenge. So if anything it would make more sense for that mission DLC to take place in chapter 6 after helping Sadie.
I believe a colder Arthur would had been better. Because it encourages the new players to do as they please without second guessing. Making them believe even being outright evil is the way to go. (Which in my head cannon it is. Until the last 2 chapters of the game) The way they went was ideal but that cut content was not really nessesary to be removed. Sure it might feel a bit weird and all. But imagine how impactful it would had been if Arthur had exposure (The conversations event with the women of the camp in first few chapters) as to why he is all this mad and agressive, the players could see why all this agression could resonate with him as a result of his anger from losing a child, only to change for the better overall. Making peace with himself before with the world that he uses to let his inner anger out. That would make parts of the story that evolve kids more meaningful to Arthur to showcase his soft and better side. You can see Arthur having a soft spot and a tough time acting the way he is supposed to as a criminal gang member whenever children are directly or not being affected by his actions. That would also make the final dilemma a lot more impactful and make sense.
Go back for money. (Remain mad and vengeaful)
Help John (Forgive yourself)
I find it hard for anyone to pick all the evil actions. You will have to actively on purpose trying to be a jerk without caring about the story and act as if this is one of the old GTA games where there are no consequences. Mindlessly trying to just get the best out of any situation, disregarding any realism or morality just because "its a game". The only reason anyone would go for the money is just for the slim chance that we might actually get them and somehow survive like Rambo. You would be neglecting the story and all the signs that you will die sooner or later. What is the point of trying to be greedy in your last moments as Pinkertons hunt all of you? The only way it would had worked the way Rockstar decided to go, it would be if it was narrated as a tactical choice to help john escape by diverting the chase/fight by Arthur taking initiative. Ooorr if it was a presented as a reasonable and somewhat equally good option by adding a bit more dialogue. Giving off the messege that the money is not meant to be stolen by Arthur for himself. But to be sent to John to live a happy life. At the very least that way any player going down that path would have the idea that their effort was for a good cause.
They should had embraced the evil part of Arthur a bit more. It is evident that they pushed a narrative that being good is the only way, almost from the get go. Which is not ideal or realistic if you ask me.
Arthur being undeniably evil in the first chapters would had made a lot of sense and would had get the players freedom to be evil without caring much. And only begin to change when Jack is abducted at chapter 4. Chapter 5 Arthur gets exposed to the lies and coercing charisma that Dutch possess. Chapter 6 Tries to change for good and make amends whenever possible.
Certain side missions in this alternative scenario where the cut content is actually in, might turn as the main ones. The storylines of Mrs. Downes and money lending Strauss ones.
In these missions you can not come out as a jerk. The game does not give you the option to be agressive or demand anything but forgive-forget or outright help for better.
In that case i believe the kick of Strauss out of the gang from Arthur would had been more agressive. Making even Micah's perspective even more logical in some sense. Arthur being mad throughout the entire story and acting as if he has a big chip on his shoulder. A big shadow from a tiny tree, a shadow that is coming off of Dutch. Who slowly fades and turns on Arthur in the end. Making even his stupid stand of dual wielding and pointing both at Micah and Arthur.
Exposing for good that Arthur is indeed a "tiny tree" in the end. A pure soul that was led astray by Dutch, just like Milton mentioned twice in the story. Both personally to Arthur by the river and in front of the entire gang in their camp.
And for the record, i believe the honour system should had been a hidden feature and not a clear and visual meter for anyone to exploit. In a sense that they go up and down the good and bad sides whenever it is convinient for the players to feel better for themselves. It should had been a hidden system. No meter to check, no red or white sign on the right side, no sound of a bell ir chime, nothing.
Only once it should be sounded a bell or a chime accordingly in your last dilemma.
Did you remain bad? Bell ring.
Or did you found redemption? Chime
There should be a dlc for the cut content with the cold version of arthur, why the hell not anyway
I think they didnt do a good job of selling Arthur as a bad man in the beginning, but he had a lot of dialogue that suggested he was much tougher than he was. I think they could have fixed it by giving Arthur nightmares. If every once in a while you go to sleep, it prompts a cutscene with a vision form Arthurs past and the gang members wake you up.
Vengeful Arthur. Dauuuum! That would have completely changed the game!
Imagine if we got rdr2 directors cut
A colder Arthur might not have resonated as well with the players, but redemption is only for those who deserve and need it. Arthur says he’s a bad man and he’s been a bad man for a long time, when you do something good as Arthur he doesn’t even know why he’s doing something good, towards the end he seems to hate who he’s been all or most of his life. Arthur having spent his life as a bad man is the reason why he’s earning redemption when he lives his last days as a good man, if not for his past it’d just be business as usual for him to be good.
If they make a red dead 3 that’s set further into the past, I think they should make Arthur an NPC, at least for the main story, like they did with John, but they should make Arthur as bad of a person as they can without losing the character he became in the 2nd game. A lot of players need to see Arthur as mean and vicious because a lot of them don’t seem to understand the entire point of the game and its name.
How is Noone talking about how he casually just dropped the hardest arthur morgan edit ever in the intro
When Arthur dies it's still painful
I wished they kept this Arthur, we start as a Bitter and vengeful and ruthless and cold Outlaw and after going to the doctor and finding out we got TB we start to realize about Revenge won’t bring Isaac back and we start helping folks and gang members to get out to live good lives but what we got was alright 👍
HOLY SHIT THAT INTRO MAN. FIRE
Am I the only one who wants to play as a complete psycho in rdr 3 like batshit insane
The fact that folks are still talking about this 6 years after release shows that they made the right choice.
I think maybe the devs decided Eliza wouldn't work as a character because of GTA6, they might have felt two criminal love stories in a row would be a bit much, or maybe the story between Arthur and Eliza had too many similarities to Jason and Lucia in general.
I think Vengeful Arthur would’ve taken away from Arthur’s constant struggle between high and low honor, making him more one dimensional. This way, it feels more like we have a choice. The only way it would have made it better is if Arthur softened with time passing, eventually trying to atone for all the killing. It would make for more of a redemption, sure. But it takes away from Arthur’s complexity imo.
Friend forgive me but.... I couldn't resist, I had to take the beginning of your video to make an edit
That Arthur fights Micah💀