Ali crossed the line with this. It pushed Frazier into a rage, which physically damaged Ali and psychically damaged Frazier. They were born to fight each other, but this did cross the line.
I've always said this. After the second fight frazier didn't like Ali but didn't hate him either. But leading up to the third fight is when he actually started hating Ali.
@@jahleelx9270 I remember seeing this video of Ali pulling out the gorilla and hitting it. I knew he was talking about Frazier. This was years and years ago. At the time I though it was funny, but later thought it was disturbing. The great Black nationalist Ali, calling another Black man a gorilla in front of a predominantly white press. Ali did a good as portraying Frazier as this menacing bad guy, but if you saw Frazier back then he was always very nice when being interviewed. I can see why it fired up Frazier into a rage - especially by the 3rd fight.
@@mikem591 yes. I say this because if u watch ali frazier 2 after the fight ended he seemed at peace and thought it was even when Cosell interviewedhim. He still didn't like him, but he didn't indefinitely hate him either. The gorilla taunting in public is what fueled his dislike into hatred.
@@mikem591 he trash talked to put pressure on himself to face the consequences also ali,joe,and foreman were in an interview years later and they were friendly towards each other
@@Meezyy608 Frazier NEVER forgave Ali. He tried to establish a "black ppl support me, white ppl support him" idea, that's not trash talk at all. Bird was a trash talker.
Ali knew exactly how to fill the seats. Predict the fight degrade the opponent which will either make people love you hate you. Either way they will be in a seat essentially putting money in your pocket.
When people ask why Frazier didn't want to stop fight in last round when he barely could see and was at the verge of death this was one of the reasons. They had a long feud even later but at the end they respected each other in last days.
@ThN2 Unlike Frazier, Liston talked back and actually knew it was a publicity stunt. tbf Liston was the one pulling pranks on Ali, firing a pistol with blanks to scare em off, He and his trainer showcasing a picture of himself with a caption of people warning Liston not to hurt the pretty guy and so on. Frazier didn't stand it, nor understand that it was a stunt, nor talked back to Ali.
He said the gorilla was Frazier's CONSCIENCE. He never directly called Frazier a gorilla. Even at the end of this clip, when he said, "Come on gorilla...", Ali was careful to preface it by repeating that the little gorilla doll represented Frazier's conscience.
When its Ali who serves these kinds of tongue-lashing and makes Gorilla jokes, they call it 'A clever psychological tactic', 'All For Fun', 'He didn't mean it.' blah blah blah. When its Joe Frazier or any other common american who makes the same ephitet, they call it 'Racism'. If y'all are crying "Justice for George Floyd!" and are the same people laughing with the reporters on the video and are enjoying this random act of rudeness by an african american to a fellow african american, y'all are HIPPOCRITES and are making a fool out of your own selves 🙄
Yep...kinda pisses me off, but at the same time that was his intention. He was pissed people doubted him, so he pissed those people off, but he did beat Frazier.
By the time he got to Lewis he was absolutely shot. They even mentioned it in the Botha fight right before he knocked him out. And a good eye would have told you he was never quite the same since leaving Rooney. Question: Was Tyson as good a fighter after he left Rooney? What we don't know with Tyson was how good he actually was or could have been if he continued to progress, especially given how young he was and his improvement as a fighter from 18-20, 20-22.
If you are a racist, yeah...then I guess calling a black man a "Gorilla" would be funny. Joe didn't find it funny nor do I. Ali had "white" blood in him and was lighter skin than Frazier. Insecurity at its best.
What Ali said about Frazier was not cool. Joe Frazier supported him when he lost his license and even gave him money when he was broke. The comments about Frazier being a gorilla and uncle Tom deeply hurt him and he still carries those scars today. I can't for the life of me figure out why people celebrate the insults that Ali hurled at Frazier.
@@nahuelborda5290 bottom line is, Muhammad Ali was a crappy guy, which many people were aware. He was treated very poorly and disrespected after he retired and deteriorated from Parkinson's. They should have simply explained the things he said and did were cringey, embarrassing and disgraceful
So much fake news in the comments. Ali did apologize. And Frazier accepted his apology. Ali said: "In a way, Joe's right. I said a lot of things in the heat of the moment that I shouldn't have said. Called him names I shouldn't have called him. I apologize for that. I'm sorry. It was all meant to promote the fight." Frazier said: "I'll accept it, shake his hand and hug him when I see him. We're grown guys. Why we been biting off bullets? We have to embrace each other. It's time to talk and get together. Life's too short."
Ali was way ahead of his time in terms of promotion. He teamed up with Cossel, used his talk to generate interest. The guy was just as smart outside of the ring as inside.
I respect your views if you approach it beyond the ring and I'm a man that understands the association between greatness and impact..However as boxing evolves and history unravels many are starting to think Joe Frazier was the greatest boxer.(you tube "Ali and Frazier The Hatred") Frazier made Ali.he was his friend..gave him money gave him his career back AND LOVED ALL PEOPLE while fighting with just one eye before being turned on for being himself.ALI never apologized. Joe Frazier=the Greatest
But hey, being called a Gorilla can also be seen as a compliment (if used right). I saw a program about how Gorilla's are very loyal; loyal to their family and protective. They are quiet and go about their business but if you fuck with them, they will pound their chest as a warning. Come closer and move pass that warning, and they will attack. So yes, I guess Frazier did fit the remark of a Gorilla although not in the way Ali used it. I don't find Gorilla's ugly either nor bad.
If a white fighter made those remarks you would be all over him. Just because its Ali you are all ok with it. He was awful in every way for saying what he said And doing what he did. Frazier was the bigger man.
@@me.aa.1300 What do you mean way worse he called Joe a uncle tom which cause him a lot of hate are you one of those suck up Joe had to get security because people thought he was a uncle tom not to mention when ail could not fight due to him not joining the military Joe gave ail money so yeah ail was the good guy
@@me.aa.1300 DIDN'T MEAN IT IN ANY RACIST WAY??? Ali said Frazier was ugly BECAUSE he was a GORILA! Oh, and... Yeah, called him an Uncle Tom too. Joe didn't called him by his "slave" (????) name. It was his REAL name. How can you say that shit's even something compared to anything.
Anyone who says Ali "beat" Jimmy Young is a devout member of The Religion of Ali. Jimmy Young gave Ali a boxing lesson to end all boxing lessons. Then Don King's bought and paid for 'judges' gave Ali his travesty of a 'decision.' Ali knew perfectly well how he had been owned by Jimmy Young. Ali couldn't look Young in the eye at the press conference after the fight.
What a scumbag, the way he mocked, humiliated, and tortured Joe, and still Joe remained a gentleman and humble person. I hope he regrets what he did to him. RIP JOE.
Disrespected first? I'm curious to hear how you justify Ali calling Frazier 'uncle Tom'. If he had a good reason he wouldnt have apologised afterwards, so we can all admit he was just being an huge prick.
The irony is that while Frazier was bitter after the Thrilla of the Manilla and all of Ali's mocking, it was that same fight that left Ali with the beginning effects of Parkinson's.
Whyavier Why do you guys get on here and act like you know boxing? Frazier lost in Manila, got punished by Ali and wouldn't come out for the 14th rd, he was effectively stopped. Out of their 3 fights, Ali won twice.
WillieBization Ali tried to quit while Frazier's corner stopped the fight. Then Ali spent the second half of his life unable to move precisely or make racially insensitive comments against honorable men.
+Hussam Alajati stop kissing his balls already...he has been in a pitiful state for nearly 30 years because his pride and ego prevented him from retiring when his health was deteriorating...frankly his pride needed humbling and his condition has humbled him finally...Frazier had too much class and grace to get the kind of crap Ali dished out on him...Ali was a great boxer but not always a great human being.
+Shaw Brothers A pity we have another poorly educated boxing fan here. If you weren't so ignorant and deluded, you'd know Ali begged to quit in his corner while Frazier demanded to get sent back in, despite being blind. Furthermore, Frazier's blindness was only half due to swelling from punches. He was blind in the other eye his entire career due to a training accident and still turned Ali into a quivering wreck and made him beg for mercy, lol. I suppose it gives you some comfort to live in the fantasy you've created for yourself since Ali's career post Manila was a series of beatings Joe set him up for. Must hurt that your flawed hero got dumped by his young gold digging hoe immediately after he retired and became incapable of performing.
+Shaw Brothers So infatuated with Clay but unable to take his own word on the matter. XD He personally confirmed his desire to quit in Manila in his biography. Must really infuriate you that Larry Holmes made Ali quit and never lost a second of the fight. I see it's not really Ali you're defensive about... more militant black politics and perhaps Islamic extremism. You're unable to even acknowledge Ali's deterioration and disgrace during the 80s. To you, the man died when he stopped licking Elijah Muhammad's balls, huh? Means nothing to you that after he'd been humbled by his disease, he repented his racism and regretted kicking Malcolm X to the curb to get assassinated? I expect you don't actually know that, being your knowledge on Ali is obviously very limited.
Unable to do anything except out-box the champ. Yeah it was a yawnathon but Young got the job done in his way. Young's wins over Foreman and Lyle out-strip any individual wins Holmes had. To my mind he also deserved decisions against Ali, Shavers and Norton. That's a better resume than many heavyweights. He lost a lot of heart when he didn't get the Norton verdict and was out-of-shape and unmotivated for most of his subsequent fights.
Ali like a lot of people who get helps at a low point in there lives have to destroy the person or persons who helped in there time of need as a leg up. Shame on Ali for that
Ali was a good Man, but after learning some years ago that Joe Frazier help Ali when he was not able to fight for three years fills in the blanks for me why Ali was cruel and vicious towards Frazier. Ali had to destroy the person whose fighting style he envied and the one person whom he (Ali) could beat him. The lesson I take away from that is be careful whom you help that person may turn on you later, Lol
for the second half of this, anybody know who the announcer is at 37 to 48 second mark? been trying to figure this out for years. I used to have a one hour special that included this segment. it was a great special, and I thought he did a great job. in fact, if anybody might know about this special, and where I can get a copy would be much obliged. thanks
Muhammad Ali, referring to his remarks about Joe Frazier 30 years ago: ''I said a lot of things in the heat of the moment that I shouldn't have said. Called him names I shouldn't have called him. I apologize for that. I'm sorry.''
Don’t matter how disrespectful he got it’s part of the sport Style jumped off in Killa Hilla I was the thriller in the Ali-Frazier Manila I came down with phat tracks that combine and interlock Like getting smashed by a cinder block Pow! Now it's all over Niggas seeing pink hearts, yellow moons, orange stars and green clovers Still hard both ways
may rest in peace but he always insulted to frazier and that was not good at all this kind of boxers like ali was so lucky because never fighted with marciano ,,,i think marciano and ray robinson and great joe luiss was real boxers they never talking they was the real act like deference between war movie in cinema and real front line of war...!!!
He also fought Holyfield after rusting away in prison for 3 years. Yeah, that's great training for the mind and body. Plus, if you look at when Tyson got "exposed" it was against Bruno and then Douglas. Both fights after he left Rooney. The same trainer that helped hone his skills and continued to get him better all the way up to Spinks. Same Trainer who had him undefeated and kept him active which is very important for a fighter.
Young was at least landing clean shots and out-working Ali in most of the rounds. Young's display was no more pathetic than Ali turning up overweight and barely landing a decent punch all night, a recurring theme in his later title defenses. Nor was Young putting his noggin through the ropes any worse than Ali's tactics, like trying to hit Young with his forearm or going minutes without throwing a single punch. In headier times he'd have been thrown out of the ring for not fighting.
Trafalgar Lawn oh please bitch ali was the man who could adapt to any way of fighting if george wouldve surpassed ali's tactics (which they had in first fight)...what do you think ali-the greatest wouldve stayed calm and do nothing? man come out of your fantasy
Abdul Mouiz if that's all true, why did ali never give him a rematch? Instead, he kept ducking him for tomato cans. Look, I think the Ali that beast Sonny Liston twice could beat Foreman, but he was past his prime when he fought Foreman and got really lucky. The rope a dope would never work again.
Kammy Why did Foreman destroy Frasier twice? Why did Ali give two rematches to Foreman and a bunch of has-beens, but ignore Foreman for the remainder of his career? C'mon man, use your head. Do you know how much money Ali would've gotten out of a Foreman rematch?
Bruno exposed Tyson that he wasn't as good without Rooney and proper training. Roger Mayweather actually discussed this with Tyson's fall. Holmes wasn't 42; I think he was 38. Holmes wasn't in his prime but Tyson did knock him out cold. And Holmes went on to fight some quality opponents and never was knocked out again. Beat Mercer, lost to McCall by decision and lost to Holyfield by decision.
Yeah, Foreman smashed Norton too, but Norton gave Ali nightmares. Most people today say it was 2-1 for him and he was robbed in last fight from clear win. It was more of a trash talk, show and way to promote the fight than serious statements by Ali, although he was angry at Joe too for still calling him Cassius Clay.
EVERY SINGLE THING ALI SAID WAS TRUE!!Foreman will ALWAYS beat Frazier,Foreman will ALWAYS beat Norton,and Ali will ALWAYS beat Foreman..because styles make fights......
@King2011ish That's bullshit and you know it. Ali thought that ANY athlete who didn't actively talk about Civil rights was an Uncle Tom and he would tell them so. What pissed Ali off was that Frazier made the comment that he was glad they both worshipped the same God,when they were both analyzing their first fight with Howard Cosell.Frazier was trying to pay Ali a compliment and Ali didn't take it so.
There was everything wrong with Cassius Clay as far as he was concerned and since it was his name and he didn't like it, especially since it was the name of a slave owner who owned his ancestors, a proud man like him had every right to despise it. Secondly he became a muslim and chose a muslim name for himself. Not many muslim casius clays since in Islam the name of a person has history attached to it. Lastly Ali wasn't being racist. He was one of the strongest advocates of black rights.
Didn't Foreman's wife threaten to leave him if he ever fought again? Dunno what two fat 60-somethings fighting each other would prove now. Would've been great to see them meet in their primes though.
The delicate intellectual disquisition above depends on an Anglicized pronunciation of the Philippines' capital. In this way it's similar to a joke about Anthony Wiener or Shiite militias
There's no excuse. Ali is better than Frazier. 3 fights in which ali won 2 times. 2nd time easily and 3rd time making Frazier quite the fight in the 14 round. Even when he lost the 1st fight he gave Frazier a good whooping. Frazier was in the hospital for more to than a month.
Couldn’t handle him which is why he won two fights against him? Come on lol, Ali is being a dick and there’s nothing wrong with pointing it out, but you don’t have to lie
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2:09 😂 come on thats classic 😂
Ali crossed the line with this. It pushed Frazier into a rage, which physically damaged Ali and psychically damaged Frazier. They were born to fight each other, but this did cross the line.
I've always said this. After the second fight frazier didn't like Ali but didn't hate him either. But leading up to the third fight is when he actually started hating Ali.
@@jahleelx9270 I remember seeing this video of Ali pulling out the gorilla and hitting it. I knew he was talking about Frazier. This was years and years ago. At the time I though it was funny, but later thought it was disturbing. The great Black nationalist Ali, calling another Black man a gorilla in front of a predominantly white press. Ali did a good as portraying Frazier as this menacing bad guy, but if you saw Frazier back then he was always very nice when being interviewed. I can see why it fired up Frazier into a rage - especially by the 3rd fight.
@@mikem591 yes. I say this because if u watch ali frazier 2 after the fight ended he seemed at peace and thought it was even when Cosell interviewedhim. He still didn't like him, but he didn't indefinitely hate him either. The gorilla taunting in public is what fueled his dislike into hatred.
@@mikem591 he trash talked to put pressure on himself to face the consequences also ali,joe,and foreman were in an interview years later and they were friendly towards each other
@@Meezyy608 Frazier NEVER forgave Ali.
He tried to establish a "black ppl support me, white ppl support him" idea, that's not trash talk at all.
Bird was a trash talker.
1:58 don king all sounding like count dracula with his evil self
Hey, can we be friends?
Don King the biggest exploiter of boxers and conman ever.
hahaha dam that's funny
Hahahaha
Ali knew exactly how to fill the seats. Predict the fight degrade the opponent which will either make people love you hate you. Either way they will be in a seat essentially putting money in your pocket.
Ali was a race hustler a racist a coward and most importantly a prick
1:42 and that's how he also invented rap
Ali was so pro black but got on white tv and called another black man a gorilla. I never liked that.
This was too far, Frazier was nothing but a real one to Ali and he horribly mocked him.
I agree
When people ask why Frazier didn't want to stop fight in last round when he barely could see and was at the verge of death this was one of the reasons. They had a long feud even later but at the end they respected each other in last days.
That is wishful thinking....
I’m in the minority but this is not right. Ali always called himself pretty and Frazier ugly. He’s punching a gorilla and calling it Frazier.
People knew how to have fun.
It's called the greatest generation in boxing for a reason.
It's not fun to respect and love your opponent
@ThN2 Unlike Frazier, Liston talked back and actually knew it was a publicity stunt. tbf Liston was the one pulling pranks on Ali, firing a pistol with blanks to scare em off, He and his trainer showcasing a picture of himself with a caption of people warning Liston not to hurt the pretty guy and so on. Frazier didn't stand it, nor understand that it was a stunt, nor talked back to Ali.
Don't take it too personally, it's just marketing. All is fair in love and war.
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He said the gorilla was Frazier's CONSCIENCE. He never directly called Frazier a gorilla.
Even at the end of this clip, when he said, "Come on gorilla...", Ali was careful to preface it by repeating that the little gorilla doll represented Frazier's conscience.
When its Ali who serves these kinds of tongue-lashing and makes Gorilla jokes, they call it 'A clever psychological tactic', 'All For Fun', 'He didn't mean it.' blah blah blah. When its Joe Frazier or any other common american who makes the same ephitet, they call it 'Racism'. If y'all are crying "Justice for George Floyd!" and are the same people laughing with the reporters on the video and are enjoying this random act of rudeness by an african american to a fellow african american, y'all are HIPPOCRITES and are making a fool out of your own selves 🙄
Thank you! It pi$$es me off how people don't understand this!
Yep...kinda pisses me off, but at the same time that was his intention. He was pissed people doubted him, so he pissed those people off, but he did beat Frazier.
LOL! Love this guy. RIP to an awesome boxing legend
sad to talk about someone who helped him when he was at the bottom
+Vidbrah Joe frasier and George forman supported ali and his family when he was gonna lose his home and this is the respect he showed the man
its all part of the show. its all to promote the fight. they became friends later in life.
+ye23 they did not frasier hated him.do research
Mr. Sotomayor brought me here.
they never became friends.
He was playing the heel, he regretted it later but you can't deny his showmanship and ability to draw a crowd
He never regretted it. He was an oink and was to his death.
@@jumbybird6222and still will be remember as the greatest of all time.
@@jumbybird6222 I am pretty sure they did talk it out, I saw it somewhere
But he did get called Gorilla even after Ali said sorry so I guess thats still bad
Now u knw ...The real OG in dis game 💯💯💯
1:47 Trollface
By the time he got to Lewis he was absolutely shot. They even mentioned it in the Botha fight right before he knocked him out. And a good eye would have told you he was never quite the same since leaving Rooney.
Question: Was Tyson as good a fighter after he left Rooney?
What we don't know with Tyson was how good he actually was or could have been if he continued to progress, especially given how young he was and his improvement as a fighter from 18-20, 20-22.
If you are a racist, yeah...then I guess calling a black man a "Gorilla" would be funny. Joe didn't find it funny nor do I. Ali had "white" blood in him and was lighter skin than Frazier. Insecurity at its best.
Muhammad Ali was the greatest at cuttin' promos!!!1
What Ali said about Frazier was not cool. Joe Frazier supported him when he lost his license and even gave him money when he was broke. The comments about Frazier being a gorilla and uncle Tom deeply hurt him and he still carries those scars today. I can't for the life of me figure out why people celebrate the insults that Ali hurled at Frazier.
Muhammad Ali's repeated "gorilla" references toward Joe Frazier on multiple occasions need to be known to all.
Yes!! And he tried to establish shit like "black ppl support me, white ppl support him" in the middle of a racial debate all around the US!
@@nahuelborda5290 bottom line is, Muhammad Ali was a crappy guy, which many people were aware. He was treated very poorly and disrespected after he retired and deteriorated from Parkinson's. They should have simply explained the things he said and did were cringey, embarrassing and disgraceful
thats how promotion works lol
Well, you fought him a third time. World knows you damn sure regretted that one afterwards.
And this is just cruel. Why was ali such a despicable person. He's a true American.
So much fake news in the comments. Ali did apologize. And Frazier accepted his apology.
Ali said: "In a way, Joe's right. I said a lot of things in the heat of the moment that I shouldn't have said. Called him names I shouldn't have called him. I apologize for that. I'm sorry. It was all meant to promote the fight."
Frazier said: "I'll accept it, shake his hand and hug him when I see him. We're grown guys. Why we been biting off bullets? We have to embrace each other. It's time to talk and get together. Life's too short."
Ali was way ahead of his time in terms of promotion. He teamed up with Cossel, used his talk to generate interest. The guy was just as smart outside of the ring as inside.
Ali was such a showman. this was part of his greatest of all time persona
Yea, he was I loved to watch his fights when I was growing up.
ali's gorilla comments remind me of rush limbaugh making fun of mike j fox's parkinsons, some people might get the irony
that's right. Muhammad Ali himself says maybe he deserved to be sick for all his wrongdoings, including Frazier's mockery.
I respect your views if you approach it beyond the ring and I'm a man that understands the association between greatness and impact..However as boxing evolves and history unravels many are starting to think Joe Frazier was the greatest boxer.(you tube "Ali and Frazier The Hatred") Frazier made Ali.he was his friend..gave him money gave him his career back AND LOVED ALL PEOPLE while fighting with just one eye before being turned on for being himself.ALI never apologized. Joe Frazier=the Greatest
But hey, being called a Gorilla can also be seen as a compliment (if used right).
I saw a program about how Gorilla's are very loyal; loyal to their family and protective. They are quiet and go about their business but if you fuck with them, they will pound their chest as a warning. Come closer and move pass that warning, and they will attack.
So yes, I guess Frazier did fit the remark of a Gorilla although not in the way Ali used it. I don't find Gorilla's ugly either nor bad.
Kinda reminds me of a child
If a white fighter made those remarks you would be all over him. Just because its Ali you are all ok with it. He was awful in every way for saying what he said And doing what he did. Frazier was the bigger man.
He didnt mean it in any racism Way and plus what about Joe Calling Ali by his slave name wich is Way worse
@@me.aa.1300 What do you mean way worse he called Joe a uncle tom which cause him a lot of hate are you one of those suck up Joe had to get security because people thought he was a uncle tom not to mention when ail could not fight due to him not joining the military Joe gave ail money so yeah ail was the good guy
@@david-lm7iu what I am saying is the both Said some stupid thing dont just blame Ali bro
@@david-lm7iu and i am not a suck op maybe your are
@@me.aa.1300 DIDN'T MEAN IT IN ANY RACIST WAY??? Ali said Frazier was ugly BECAUSE he was a GORILA! Oh, and... Yeah, called him an Uncle Tom too.
Joe didn't called him by his "slave" (????) name. It was his REAL name. How can you say that shit's even something compared to anything.
Anyone who says Ali "beat" Jimmy Young is a devout member of The Religion of Ali.
Jimmy Young gave Ali a boxing lesson to end all boxing lessons.
Then Don King's bought and paid for 'judges' gave Ali his travesty of a 'decision.'
Ali knew perfectly well how he had been owned by Jimmy Young.
Ali couldn't look Young in the eye at the press conference after the fight.
He lost to Muhammad Ali idiot.
joe got his revenge at the marlins game yesterday
what good was it for ali to gain the whole world and lose his own soul and his body? frazier tombstone
He did not lose his soul or his body to anyone, he is loved all over the world.
Yes. Ali is Loved at the Frazier house just like O.J. Simpson is loved at the Goldman and Brown house.
JazzKeyboardist1 ?
Nina Duran. is English your first language?
JazzKeyboardist1 what you think moron? If you have the brain you will know that and not ask that hahahahaha
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We miss you muhammad ali
Tyson... is a gentleman?
Wait, is it even possible to string those four words together...?
What a scumbag, the way he mocked, humiliated, and tortured Joe, and still Joe remained a gentleman and humble person. I hope he regrets what he did to him. RIP JOE.
Have more respect to Ali you idiot.
Yeah I’m a diehard Ali Stan but he def went too far with this one. Especially wit the racial tension back then too.
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Disrespected first? I'm curious to hear how you justify Ali calling Frazier 'uncle Tom'. If he had a good reason he wouldnt have apologised afterwards, so we can all admit he was just being an huge prick.
That’s a great point. And he always classified himself as pretty because he was light skinned.
The irony is that while Frazier was bitter after the Thrilla of the Manilla and all of Ali's mocking, it was that same fight that left Ali with the beginning effects of Parkinson's.
Frazier punished Ali real good. :-)
Whyavier Why do you guys get on here and act like you know boxing? Frazier lost in Manila, got punished by Ali and wouldn't come out for the 14th rd, he was effectively stopped. Out of their 3 fights, Ali won twice.
WillieBization Ali tried to quit while Frazier's corner stopped the fight. Then Ali spent the second half of his life unable to move precisely or make racially insensitive comments against honorable men.
+Hussam Alajati stop kissing his balls already...he has been in a pitiful state for nearly 30 years because his pride and ego prevented him from retiring when his health was deteriorating...frankly his pride needed humbling and his condition has humbled him finally...Frazier had too much class and grace to get the kind of crap Ali dished out on him...Ali was a great boxer but not always a great human being.
+Shaw Brothers A pity we have another poorly educated boxing fan here. If you weren't so ignorant and deluded, you'd know Ali begged to quit in his corner while Frazier demanded to get sent back in, despite being blind. Furthermore, Frazier's blindness was only half due to swelling from punches. He was blind in the other eye his entire career due to a training accident and still turned Ali into a quivering wreck and made him beg for mercy, lol.
I suppose it gives you some comfort to live in the fantasy you've created for yourself since Ali's career post Manila was a series of beatings Joe set him up for. Must hurt that your flawed hero got dumped by his young gold digging hoe immediately after he retired and became incapable of performing.
+Shaw Brothers So infatuated with Clay but unable to take his own word on the matter. XD He personally confirmed his desire to quit in Manila in his biography. Must really infuriate you that Larry Holmes made Ali quit and never lost a second of the fight.
I see it's not really Ali you're defensive about... more militant black politics and perhaps Islamic extremism. You're unable to even acknowledge Ali's deterioration and disgrace during the 80s. To you, the man died when he stopped licking Elijah Muhammad's balls, huh? Means nothing to you that after he'd been humbled by his disease, he repented his racism and regretted kicking Malcolm X to the curb to get assassinated? I expect you don't actually know that, being your knowledge on Ali is obviously very limited.
Unable to do anything except out-box the champ. Yeah it was a yawnathon but Young got the job done in his way.
Young's wins over Foreman and Lyle out-strip any individual wins Holmes had. To my mind he also deserved decisions against Ali, Shavers and Norton. That's a better resume than many heavyweights. He lost a lot of heart when he didn't get the Norton verdict and was out-of-shape and unmotivated for most of his subsequent fights.
when ali was broke razier took care of him. his berating joe was a low point in his life.
Exactly, that's why JOE was so hurt but this. And Ali never apologized publicly either.
Ali like a lot of people who get helps at a low point in there lives have to destroy the person or persons who helped in there time of need as a leg up. Shame on Ali for that
Ali was a good Man, but after learning some years ago that Joe Frazier help Ali when he was not able to fight for three years fills in the blanks for me why Ali was cruel and vicious towards Frazier. Ali had to destroy the person whose fighting style he envied and the one person whom he (Ali) could beat him. The lesson I take away from that is be careful whom you help that person may turn on you later, Lol
@Vidbrah Right 🙄.
@@lwmson your 10 years old you probably weren't alive
for the second half of this, anybody know who the announcer is at 37 to 48 second mark? been trying to figure this out for years. I used to have a one hour special that included this segment. it was a great special, and I thought he did a great job. in fact, if anybody might know about this special, and where I can get a copy would be much obliged. thanks
Ali had a mouth on him, ironic that big mouth was the first thing to go when he got ill.
ali is the greatest of all time
Lol !! We love you Muhammad ali !!! Joe frazer too !
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Muhammad Ali, referring to his remarks about Joe Frazier 30 years ago: ''I said a lot of things in the heat of the moment that I shouldn't have said. Called him names I shouldn't have called him. I apologize for that. I'm sorry.''
He rehearsed it. Heat of the moment goes out of the window, especially during that time
As a kid, I never knew how much of an asshole Ali was during his fighting career.
nice vid.
People talk about his boxing but was there ever a greater shit taller than Ali?
Ali il re frazier Un grandissimo
Don’t matter how disrespectful he got it’s part of the sport
Style jumped off in Killa Hilla
I was the thriller in the Ali-Frazier Manila
I came down with phat tracks that combine and interlock
Like getting smashed by a cinder block
Pow! Now it's all over
Niggas seeing pink hearts, yellow moons, orange stars and green clovers
Still hard both ways
may rest in peace but he always insulted to frazier and that was not good at all this kind of boxers like ali was so lucky because never fighted with marciano ,,,i think marciano and ray robinson and great joe luiss was real boxers they never talking they was the real act like deference between war movie in cinema and real front line of war...!!!
😂Ali was great at marketing. The other boxers were behind in this concept
how is it possible to criticize muhammad ali seriously the best boxer to ever set foot in side a ring
Are you serious?
He also fought Holyfield after rusting away in prison for 3 years. Yeah, that's great training for the mind and body. Plus, if you look at when Tyson got "exposed" it was against Bruno and then Douglas. Both fights after he left Rooney. The same trainer that helped hone his skills and continued to get him better all the way up to Spinks. Same Trainer who had him undefeated and kept him active which is very important for a fighter.
Young was at least landing clean shots and out-working Ali in most of the rounds.
Young's display was no more pathetic than Ali turning up overweight and barely landing a decent punch all night, a recurring theme in his later title defenses.
Nor was Young putting his noggin through the ropes any worse than Ali's tactics, like trying to hit Young with his forearm or going minutes without throwing a single punch. In headier times he'd have been thrown out of the ring for not fighting.
Really? Did they do that to Floyd Mayweather?
LOL,no Ali. I love you man, but if you fought George Foreman again, you would've been DESTROYED. Which is why you ducked him afterwards.
Trafalgar Lawn oh please bitch ali was the man who could adapt to any way of fighting if george wouldve surpassed ali's tactics (which they had in first fight)...what do you think ali-the greatest wouldve stayed calm and do nothing? man come out of your fantasy
+Trafalgar Lawn Keep dreaming. Ali would beat guys like george foreman and sonny liston every day of the week.
Abdul Mouiz if that's all true, why did ali never give him a rematch? Instead, he kept ducking him for tomato cans. Look, I think the Ali that beast Sonny Liston twice could beat Foreman, but he was past his prime when he fought Foreman and got really lucky. The rope a dope would never work again.
Trafalgar Lawn You're obviously blind. Watch the fight again. Ali was toying with foreman. Ali even winked to a person in the crowd.
Kammy Why did Foreman destroy Frasier twice? Why did Ali give two rematches to Foreman and a bunch of has-beens, but ignore Foreman for the remainder of his career? C'mon man, use your head. Do you know how much money Ali would've gotten out of a Foreman rematch?
one punched of ali gorilla start to cry
Man, I almost fainted laughing of Ali punching that gorilla doll. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Where the hell he got such ideas?! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bruno exposed Tyson that he wasn't as good without Rooney and proper training. Roger Mayweather actually discussed this with Tyson's fall.
Holmes wasn't 42; I think he was 38. Holmes wasn't in his prime but Tyson did knock him out cold. And Holmes went on to fight some quality opponents and never was knocked out again. Beat Mercer, lost to McCall by decision and lost to Holyfield by decision.
the thumbnail pic looks funny
1:56 😆🤣😂
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Yeah, Foreman smashed Norton too, but Norton gave Ali nightmares. Most people today say it was 2-1 for him and he was robbed in last fight from clear win. It was more of a trash talk, show and way to promote the fight than serious statements by Ali, although he was angry at Joe too for still calling him Cassius Clay.
Joes gonna come out smoking and I ain't gonna be joking
EVERY SINGLE THING ALI SAID WAS TRUE!!Foreman will ALWAYS beat Frazier,Foreman will ALWAYS beat Norton,and Ali will ALWAYS beat Foreman..because styles make fights......
I used to think forman would have won a rematch, but after having watch the fight again, ali was right.
its called showman ship son
11 year old comment. You still there dude??.
He fucking spat fire left and right.
Ignorance
@CANTTOUCHMEBICH Umm no he wasnt scared to fight for his country, he just didnt want to kill people from another country for no reason.
Tell that to south Korea.
1:43 So that’s how they got the name “the thrilla in manila” for the frazier vs ali fight.
he was all kinds of fine
You re all kinds of fine
i'm Ali hard die fan. but change that title!
Don king laughing his azz off
@King2011ish That's bullshit and you know it. Ali thought that ANY athlete who didn't actively talk about Civil rights was an Uncle Tom and he would tell them so. What pissed Ali off was that Frazier made the comment that he was glad they both worshipped the same God,when they were both analyzing their first fight with Howard Cosell.Frazier was trying to pay Ali a compliment and Ali didn't take it so.
1:07
He wasn't even asked to fight. He was going to do exhibition fights for the soldiers..
fully agreed.
There was everything wrong with Cassius Clay as far as he was concerned and since it was his name and he didn't like it, especially since it was the name of a slave owner who owned his ancestors, a proud man like him had every right to despise it.
Secondly he became a muslim and chose a muslim name for himself. Not many muslim casius clays since in Islam the name of a person has history attached to it.
Lastly Ali wasn't being racist. He was one of the strongest advocates of black rights.
Now thisexplainswhy this man had soo much white. Media attention this explain why white pple loved him and why he was so much celebrated
Gostaria de saber se é Racismo ?
The funniest thing I've ever seen.
0:22 MISMATCH
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R.I.P Replay Button hahaha
2:09
what a legend
Exactly.
Didn't Foreman's wife threaten to leave him if he ever fought again? Dunno what two fat 60-somethings fighting each other would prove now. Would've been great to see them meet in their primes though.
That shit is funny to me. Do what you gotta do to sell a fight. Miss me with all the correctness
Despicable
This was some racist ish by Ali. Yuck!
The delicate intellectual disquisition above depends on an Anglicized pronunciation of the Philippines' capital. In this way it's similar to a joke about Anthony Wiener or Shiite militias
The greatest!!!
Love it. Coudn't do that today.
POS!
While many people waste their time being offended, Muhammad Ali just talk shit to Joe Frazier even calling him GORILLA. This stuff is really great.
Ali couldn't handle Frazier straight up. That's why he hung on his neck for the last 2 fights after gettin' his ass handed to him in the 1st.
There's no excuse. Ali is better than Frazier. 3 fights in which ali won 2 times. 2nd time easily and 3rd time making Frazier quite the fight in the 14 round. Even when he lost the 1st fight he gave Frazier a good whooping. Frazier was in the hospital for more to than a month.
Couldn’t handle him which is why he won two fights against him? Come on lol, Ali is being a dick and there’s nothing wrong with pointing it out, but you don’t have to lie
Chrispy Frazier..wow he was great for the black community. Winning!
Mcgregor learned from this guy 😎
Please, McGregor isn't even in the same galaxy as Ali
And ali learned from a white wrestler as Said by himself.
I have a doll like that I call it cassius clay.