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  • The Sonic GBA port is one of the most """amazing""" games I've ever played.
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  • @MetagrossOverlordX
    @MetagrossOverlordX 4 роки тому +353

    5:35 Funniest part about this story - You would think the programmer/writer of the message for helping pirates would get into a lot of trouble for hiding a message like that, maybe blacklisted in the worst case. Nope! He's since held high ranking positions at various game companies and is currently a VP at Warner Brothers Interactive, what a lad lol.

    • @Mekasoundwave
      @Mekasoundwave 4 роки тому +14

      King shit tbh

    • @keiyakins
      @keiyakins 4 роки тому +47

      It probably helps that the Dreamcast was both widely pirated and basically dead by that point, so it was less "enabling piracy" and more "leaving a note on how to invoke the emulator properly"

    • @kyoai
      @kyoai 3 роки тому +6

      Aside from the money, is a high-ranking position at WB Interactive really that respectful, considering WB games have, in the last few years, been almost as greedy and low-ethics as EA and Activision?

    • @BigJoker
      @BigJoker 3 роки тому +12

      @@kyoai Surely he meant respectable in the industry, in which case, yes his point stands.
      The guy who did something that you think would harm his employment standing since it helps promote piracy actually got promoted. It means that despite that misstep, he's probably a sharp guy that no company would want to lose.

    • @THENAMEISQUICKMAN
      @THENAMEISQUICKMAN 3 роки тому +6

      @@kyoai Mate, Nintendo have been pretty greedy and non-ethical for a looooong time now, but are we going to pretend that a high-ranking position there isn't respectful? Get real.

  • @shadowmanwkp
    @shadowmanwkp 4 роки тому +346

    Shame you didn't talk about the Sonic classic collection on the ds, that one also got a story behind it. The main programmer was Stephan Dittrich who was a homebrew developer for a Genesis emulator called JenesisDs, he one day stopped his work and after some months he shows up in the credits of the classic collection. Sega actually hired an emulator developer! He even improved the emulation, because the games run better on the collection than on JenesisDs.

    • @Butter-Milk
      @Butter-Milk 4 роки тому +20

      That's how I was introduced to the classic games.

    • @PIKMINROCK1
      @PIKMINROCK1 4 роки тому +23

      Sega pulled a Nintendo, huh (guy behind GB player in Pokemon Stadium and the NES games in Animal Crossing worked on NES emulation)

    • @lunarbeing4982
      @lunarbeing4982 4 роки тому +35

      @@PIKMINROCK1 It shocks me that the same Nintendo that did that can also throw countless cease and desists at fan projects and rom sites.

    • @agitatedskeleton
      @agitatedskeleton 4 роки тому +29

      @@PIKMINROCK1 I would hardly call the act of hiring a fan to work on an oficial release a "Nintendo"

    • @CitBox
      @CitBox 4 роки тому +19

      @@agitatedskeleton yeah the closest thing to Nintendo doing that was gamefreak hiring Toby Fox as a composer.

  • @MaxMarriner
    @MaxMarriner 4 роки тому +508

    I’m excited to see this series cover more heavily-ported games. Maybe you’ll cover the 8,000 ports of the original Final Fantasy someday!

    • @logicdude8851
      @logicdude8851 4 роки тому +16

      And Super Mario Bros.

    • @GmNdWtchr96
      @GmNdWtchr96 4 роки тому +23

      And the different versions of Street Fighter II

    • @Lucas_van_Hout
      @Lucas_van_Hout 4 роки тому +17

      And doom in places they don’t belong like graphics calculators.

    • @GmNdWtchr96
      @GmNdWtchr96 4 роки тому +7

      @@Lucas_van_Hout We're talking official ports...

    • @TimTindall
      @TimTindall 4 роки тому +11

      @@Lucas_van_Hout @GameAndWatcher96 the issue with that is the open source nature of OG Doom at this point. Any person can make a port of Doom on just about any environment with a C compiler.

  • @TheKazeblade
    @TheKazeblade 4 роки тому +126

    There actually WAS a Sega Smash Pack volume 2! It was released for PC and included games like Sonic 2, Vectorman 2, Kid Chameleon, Comix Zone and Shining Force. It was my first introduction to all of those games!

    • @BATCHARRO
      @BATCHARRO 4 роки тому +8

      I had that! That's how I got into Shining Force despite never being an RPG guy.
      It's also partly how I got into emu pirating because I really wanted SF2.

    • @Gatorade69
      @Gatorade69 4 роки тому

      I think he was talking about on the Dreamcasr. There was a Smash Pack 2 but not on the Dreamcast.

    • @Toonrick12
      @Toonrick12 4 роки тому +3

      Fun fact: When it was released in Japan as Sega Archives from USA it was the first time Vectorman was released in Japan! Volume 2 was Sega's Puzzle Pack, Volume 3 was Sega Smash Pack 2

    • @DiamondDust132
      @DiamondDust132 4 роки тому +2

      Yep. This is how I played all those games too as a kid.

    • @nickmalcom6360
      @nickmalcom6360 4 роки тому +1

      that one is a sequel to a different smash for pc. the dreamcast version is the first one to have sonic 1. also, the pc versions used steve snake's KGEN98 emulator, which is the precursor to kega fusion.

  • @AVGNROCKS1996
    @AVGNROCKS1996 4 роки тому +111

    It’s funny because both Sonic and Doom basically changed the landscape of gaming forever, and are some of the most ported game of all time... both also had reboots in a year that ended with 6, which had a troubling development cycle in which their lead programmer left mid cycle, forcing the team to rethink their approach, both to... different results.

    • @MrSlaveSP
      @MrSlaveSP 4 роки тому +1

      Double Dragon too

    • @genericstickman5967
      @genericstickman5967 4 роки тому

      But Sonic 06 wasn’t a reboot, it’s still the same basic gameplay in the same universe

    • @CitBox
      @CitBox 4 роки тому +5

      @@genericstickman5967 Doom 2016 was only a soft reboot, and Sonic 06 was supposed to be a new entry point for newcomers.

    • @CiromBreeze
      @CiromBreeze 4 роки тому +3

      Interesting how both Sonic and Doom changed the landscape of gaming, while a crossover between Sonic and Doom changed the landscape of fangaming.

    • @AVGNROCKS1996
      @AVGNROCKS1996 4 роки тому +3

      @@CiromBreeze I'd unironically love to see a Shadow the Hedgehog game with the same energy as Doom. Just the same wacky bullshit.

  • @CitBox
    @CitBox 4 роки тому +314

    "America, we got the worst one!"
    That is a quote for the ages

    • @CZpersi
      @CZpersi 4 роки тому

      America first!

    • @batfan1939
      @batfan1939 4 роки тому +1

      Of course we did!

    • @0svvan0
      @0svvan0 4 роки тому +5

      we deserved the worst one

    • @MissAshley42
      @MissAshley42 4 роки тому +9

      It's so versatile, too. "One" can mean "president," "police force," "health care system". . .The possibilities are endless!

    • @GiygasStarman
      @GiygasStarman 3 роки тому +8

      @@MissAshley42 you are all wrong.

  • @michaellaverty7349
    @michaellaverty7349 4 роки тому +28

    Somewhere out there is a guy who got the Sonic GBA port as a kid and never played any of the others due to how bad it was. This is why we need to preserve games and make sure they're handled with care for others to enjoy.

    • @tech6hutch
      @tech6hutch 3 роки тому +4

      This is kind of me. It was definitely my first exposure to 2D Sonic, and needless to say I wasn’t impressed. I’ve played one or two others since then, but have just never really gotten into it.

  • @LateNightHalo
    @LateNightHalo 4 роки тому +54

    Ooooh boy, Sonic Genesis... this is gonna be good

  • @MrSTVR
    @MrSTVR 4 роки тому +47

    Sega have thrown away so many sales by refusing to port those iOS versions to consoles. SEGA AGES on the Switch is nice and all, but I'd prefer to play with Whitehead's changes.

  • @heyhonpuds
    @heyhonpuds 4 роки тому +31

    “Do I sound like a Mega Drive bloke?” That got a good laugh from this British bloke. Nice one.

  • @ChaoticMeatballTV
    @ChaoticMeatballTV 4 роки тому +101

    Honestly surprised you've never touched Sonic 1. I'll just say what everyone wants though:
    BRING THE PHONE VERSION TO CONSOLES!

    • @tiberiusbrain
      @tiberiusbrain 4 роки тому +1

      Ok, get a chromecast, cast your phone's screen, get a bluetooth controller....
      .
      .
      .
      Profit?

    • @MikeStavola
      @MikeStavola 4 роки тому +1

      Can you put it on a firestick? I assume it's be fine on that...

    • @GamergalDS
      @GamergalDS 4 роки тому +2

      BRING THE JAVA PHONE VERSION TO CONSOLES!

    • @MrShambles
      @MrShambles 4 роки тому

      Steam got that version of Sonic CD, but that's it.

    • @TheRealUnkn0wn_289
      @TheRealUnkn0wn_289 3 роки тому

      @@MrShambles It was on ps3 and xbox 360 and I think the wii as well

  • @sanityeyes5272
    @sanityeyes5272 4 роки тому +33

    0:45 Puyo Puyo 1 and 2 both have more official ports than Sonic 1 does but most of them came out before Sega owned the franchise so Sonic 1 is still their most ported game.

    • @AleT118
      @AleT118 4 роки тому +1

      Yoo, Puyo gang rise up!

    • @Toonrick12
      @Toonrick12 4 роки тому +7

      I love how Sega now owns Puyo Puyo the same way that you might own a Blockbuster tape.

    • @retro_redgrave
      @retro_redgrave 4 роки тому +1

      @@Toonrick12 Damn, that was a way funnier than expected lmfao good one

  • @glasssawsslipperstraws7410
    @glasssawsslipperstraws7410 4 роки тому +240

    in a year his openings are just gonna be HeDerMeDer

  • @cicabeot1
    @cicabeot1 4 роки тому +78

    “The Saturn sold worse than the Virtual Boy.” What do you mean? Saturn sold about 9 million units, and the Virtual Boy sold 700 thousand.

    • @StopSkeletonsFromFighting
      @StopSkeletonsFromFighting  4 роки тому +50

      Cicabeot1 before it was cancelled, the virtual boy had a faster sell through rate than the Saturn. The Saturn has a higher number because it wasn’t cancelled for several years.

    • @herbaldragon7646
      @herbaldragon7646 4 роки тому +19

      @@StopSkeletonsFromFighting so overall? virtal boy sold better than saturn? o_0

    • @Toonrick12
      @Toonrick12 4 роки тому +4

      Should of added in North America. Maybe Europe too

    • @cicabeot1
      @cicabeot1 4 роки тому +6

      Stop Skeletons From Fighting So in terms of sales charts at the time, yeah, that makes more sense.

    • @TheLandofObscusion
      @TheLandofObscusion 4 роки тому +28

      Yeah, Derek could have worded it a little better, like "Even the Virtual Boy was outselling it... For the half year Nintendo was actually selling it, at least."

  • @Chronologo
    @Chronologo 4 роки тому +17

    The first version I played was the Master System one, my cousin had one of those Tec Toy Brazilian licensed Master System console, one that was the joystick and the console in one chunky thing. The game was preloaded in the memory and would boot if you turn it on without a game catridge

    • @MaxOakland
      @MaxOakland 2 роки тому

      That’s a cool game to get for free!

  • @CazTheGamerGuy
    @CazTheGamerGuy 4 роки тому +47

    This port is more like "saw neck" than "Sonic" because it is spine-crushingly baffling that it exists in such an awe inspiring state.

  • @Typo205
    @Typo205 4 роки тому +43

    That opening was way too slow. HEYIMDEREKIZMEDEREK

  • @katakis1
    @katakis1 3 роки тому +4

    Dude, I first played and beat this game back in 2007 on my iPod Classic! I still think the clickwheel is a great control scheme for Sonic. Wish there was a way to play this today.

  • @ShawnBianchi
    @ShawnBianchi 4 роки тому +16

    My first exposure to Sonic the Hedgehog 1 was on the iPod Classic.....I still can't believe I beat the entire game on that thing.

  • @RazorBeamz
    @RazorBeamz 4 роки тому +98

    If you're going to cover some more games with a lot of ports, you should do one on Pac-Man!

    • @RaVisions
      @RaVisions 4 роки тому +4

      Thats impossible if you count all the games that are Paxman in name only

    • @Izhen_UwU
      @Izhen_UwU 4 роки тому

      Also,tetris.

    • @trevorsgamingroom5284
      @trevorsgamingroom5284 4 роки тому +2

      Dear god that’s like counting every word in the dictionary

    • @CaptAwesumNo1Zone
      @CaptAwesumNo1Zone 4 роки тому +3

      Derek has Pac-man Fever!!🤧

  • @NovastarDoughnut
    @NovastarDoughnut 4 роки тому +49

    Dude where did you get that sonic shirt. I love it so much.

    • @Moofyspacejump
      @Moofyspacejump 4 роки тому +15

      It's by an artist named Jaime Ugarte you can find it here www.teepublic.com/user/juhshin

    • @MaxOakland
      @MaxOakland 2 роки тому +1

      Same here! It’s such a good design

  • @Snake4985
    @Snake4985 4 роки тому +3

    To quote Tom Servo about that GBA port: "Folks! They just did not care!"

  • @Wyrrlicci
    @Wyrrlicci 3 роки тому +2

    "It inspired me with its awefullness" that is the most Uncle Derek thing I've ever heard him say

  • @ryanjdc9985
    @ryanjdc9985 4 роки тому +2

    The pure joy on your face while listening to the music from Sonic on the GBA is a real highlight I must say.

  • @skidmarx8905
    @skidmarx8905 4 роки тому +22

    2:20 Sonic Jam din't run in the nights engine, it actually ran on an early version of the Sonic Adventure engine! SA1 was actually planned for the Saturn before work was moved to the dreamcast to take advantage of the new hardware. Both games actually share a lot of animations.
    4:15 the Saturn, surprisingly enough is Sega's best selling console in Japan. Topping the charts as the 8th best selling in the country.
    6:10 bro SADX is fucking awful bro, it was a heavily rushed port that broke a lot of the lighting and introduced new glitches.

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L 4 роки тому

      is there an A/B comparison video showing the retained animations? I'm really curious now

    • @justanotheryoutubechannel
      @justanotheryoutubechannel 2 роки тому +1

      @@kaitlyn__L I don’t know how true the stuff about animations is since as far as I know none of the models in the final SA1 are the same as the Saturn era models, except for maybe the Sky Chase Tornado 1 model. It seems doubtful they could reuse animations for a different model.

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L 2 роки тому

      @@justanotheryoutubechannel they were very different models, which is why the mouths, eyebrows, etc clip through themselves due to the reused motion information :)

  • @JohnnyBurnes
    @JohnnyBurnes 4 роки тому +10

    "Why have I never covered Sonic?"
    The fandom?
    (There's probably already Derek The Hedgehog DeviantArt.)

    • @aidanklobuchar1798
      @aidanklobuchar1798 4 роки тому +1

      There is, apparently, A LOT of Derek the Hedgehog art. Though there's at least some "Your name here" the Hedgehog art.
      sonicfanon.fandom.com/wiki/Derek_the_Hedgehog
      sonicfanon.fandom.com/wiki/Derek_The_Hedgehog(ResonanceDude)

  • @Xeo7
    @Xeo7 4 роки тому

    Well Derek, I've been watching you since accidentally stumbling across your Splatterhouse video as the HVGN. And you're consistently fun, funny, upbeat and a pleasure to follow and view. Thanks for all of both yours and your wife's hard work! One of the best channels on the platform.

  • @AlexRN
    @AlexRN 4 роки тому

    Loved this episode, Derek. I'll be patiently waiting for te next Sonic ports video. Your enthusiasm is contagious!

  • @stefbot88
    @stefbot88 4 роки тому +4

    I remember years ago I bought sonic anniversary for my GBA from Zellers when they were still around. I found it in a bargain bin for $4.99 and oooh boy it was brutal. I played it for a day and never touched it again. I don't know where I left it but it disappeared from my collection.

  • @thebaccathatchews
    @thebaccathatchews 4 роки тому +7

    "...actually had a pretty good run."
    I see what you did there.

  • @dylansheaves4743
    @dylansheaves4743 4 роки тому +2

    "Sega has ported sonic 1 more times than any other game"
    -Todd Howard would like to know your location

  • @colleenglanville8293
    @colleenglanville8293 4 роки тому +1

    *"Welcome To Our Very First Sonic The Hedgehog Video!"*
    It's almost hard to believe that this is the first Sonic the Hedgehog video... CONGRATS!!! 🎉😄😁👍

  • @Chronomaster
    @Chronomaster 4 роки тому +3

    "I've never covered Sonic before on this channel"
    Am I getting Mandela'd here? I could swear I've heard him say this before.

  • @henrik6754
    @henrik6754 4 роки тому +9

    I would love a video on the Master System version. That is the one i grew up with, but no one ever talks about it. I don't think it has ever been re-released and there are almost no videos about it on UA-cam. Please talk a little about that one as well. It's also pretty strange to have a developer make a demake of it's own game for an older system.

    • @TheLandofObscusion
      @TheLandofObscusion 4 роки тому +2

      The Master System versions of Sonic 1, 2, & Chaos were all re-released on the Wii Virtual Console, but I get what you're saying, because the 8-bit games are generally good. It wasn't really strange to see, though, since Sonic 1 8-bit was originally made specifically for the Game Gear to help advertise that handheld, but since the MS used the same overall hardware (& was still selling extremely well in Europe), Sega also asked for a console version.
      In fact, Sonic 1 8-bit was the entire reason why Yuzo Koshiro even formed Ancient Corp with his family! He offered programming services, but Sega didn't make those kinds of deals with individuals, so Koshiro had to form a studio in order to start development.

    • @lunarbeing4982
      @lunarbeing4982 4 роки тому

      ​@@TheLandofObscusion That's all very interesting to know!
      I also grew up with the SMS version of Sonic 1 and for the longest time I thought that was what Sonic for me, would be years before I played the Mega Drive version.

    • @nickmalcom6360
      @nickmalcom6360 4 роки тому

      not as strange as you thought. the sega game gear got that port as well, and we all know it's tecnicly a master system with a beafed up color pallet. that and the sms was still doing well in the Uk where it was seen as the poor man's genesis in the best possible way.
      speaking of the sms port, I'd like to see you cover the Palm OS port that was released in 2005. nobody talks about that, but that's probably because nobody talks about palm OS gaming in general.

    • @marx4538
      @marx4538 4 роки тому +1

      Game Gear version is actually heavily different - many hitbox, collision and overall issues were fixed, a lot of things in the level design and spritework were changed to play better on the Game Gear and the bosses were changed entierly.
      Some (like me) might argue the Game Gear version is superior due to those changes alone - some of the level design is much worse in the MS version.

    • @THENAMEISQUICKMAN
      @THENAMEISQUICKMAN 3 роки тому +1

      They're interesting games in their own right, for sure. I believe the Master System version of Sonic 1 was the last ever game to come out in North America on the system, too. Which, let's be real, is one of the best last games on a console ever considering they're usually shovelware or yearly sports titles.

  • @WrestlingWithGaming
    @WrestlingWithGaming 4 роки тому

    Great video. That mobile phone port looks pretty dang good. Also, I see you have a Super Wide Gear on your shelf. A gentleman's accessory.

  • @ryjoy
    @ryjoy 4 роки тому

    More Sonic please!! This was so insightful! Your Sonic collection is so impressive

  • @InazumaDash
    @InazumaDash 4 роки тому +65

    Apparently the game runs worst on actual hardware so you can't even experience how shitty it is on emulator.

    • @normamohdnor4730
      @normamohdnor4730 4 роки тому +2

      Wait, so you're saying Sonic 1 on Gen/MD is bad?

    • @grow5150
      @grow5150 4 роки тому +1

      My copy of Sonic has always ran great on my Genesis?

    • @Vitorio582
      @Vitorio582 4 роки тому +37

      He's clearly talking about the GBA port

    • @THENAMEISQUICKMAN
      @THENAMEISQUICKMAN 3 роки тому +1

      This actually happens on pretty much any game on emulation from systems of that era or under - it WILL run better than the real hardware. Ever got annoyed with how sprites flicker in the Mega Man games? Boom, emulator, gone.

    • @davelewis8270
      @davelewis8270 3 роки тому

      @@THENAMEISQUICKMAN it's a trade off though. You're trading flickering sprites for input latency. You'd be amazed what the different it feels between playing megaman on an emulator and playing it on a nes on a crt

  • @ToastyMann
    @ToastyMann 4 роки тому +9

    I still find it incredibly sad that Sega couldn't even port Sonic 1 to the GBA.

    • @ahmadkazan7994
      @ahmadkazan7994 4 роки тому +1

      They used the advance engine that's why.

    • @chamoo232
      @chamoo232 4 роки тому +1

      There is a homebrew version of Sonic 1 for GBA that actually work well.

    • @M0rinkashi
      @M0rinkashi 2 роки тому

      @@chamoo232 As the port is shown in this video; it's merely a proof of concept made by Stealth (who later aided on the development of Sonic Mania alongside other well known talents in the community) which shows that it's completely possible to make a good port of the game into the GBA.
      As for the music, it is said to be sourced from a Java port of thd game before the GBA release, the soundtrack is on UA-cam, search for it, they said they sounded better the GBA's soundtrack.

    • @justanotheryoutubechannel
      @justanotheryoutubechannel 2 роки тому +3

      I expect it was done by 2 interns in 2 weeks and they were probably crunching really hard just to manage that. Sega was obsessed with rushing games and not giving them big enough teams at the time (a theme they started with Sonic 2) and it wasn’t until both this and 06 nearly killed the franchise that they started giving games more than 6 months to be developed again, but they did the same thing with forces, it got rushed and had only 2 level designers with no experience to design everything.

  • @ChrisGildart
    @ChrisGildart 4 роки тому

    Would love to see more Sonic videos. Love Punching Weight man. Makes me happy to see others who collect the weird, useless, and unneeded. Keep up the great work!

  • @jeremyjulkowski4844
    @jeremyjulkowski4844 3 роки тому

    I just love the title screen announcement of Sonic Jam on the Saturn as it sounds so emphatically fast paced and serious: "Sonic JAM!"

  • @dcvmu
    @dcvmu 4 роки тому +45

    The Virtual Boy didn't sell more than the Saturn, where the hell did you get that false info? lol

    • @arioca
      @arioca 4 роки тому +24

      You're correct, it's not even close. The Virtual Boy only sold 770,000 units compared to the Saturn's 9.26 million sales. I'm always amazed of how much misinformation some UA-cam gaming channels spread.

    • @Mimi.1001
      @Mimi.1001 4 роки тому +9

      Yeah, even the Dreamcast sold less than the Saturn, but it is much higher regarded and spoken about by Derek and in general.

    • @StopSkeletonsFromFighting
      @StopSkeletonsFromFighting  4 роки тому +33

      before it was cancelled, the virtual boy had a faster sell through rate than the Saturn. The Saturn has a higher number because it wasn’t cancelled for several years.

    • @arioca
      @arioca 4 роки тому +3

      @@StopSkeletonsFromFighting Nintendo wants to delete the Virtual Boy from their history. The Virtual Boy is Nintendo's biggest failure and they are so ashamed of it that they refused to make the games available for the 3DS (which would be a perfect fit), despite many fans asking for them.

    • @danieluranga6872
      @danieluranga6872 4 роки тому +9

      @@arioca Then why'd they reference it in Tomodachi Life and Luigi's Mansion 3 (where they joked about it selling poorly)? The lack of 3ds ports might've been due to emulation difficulties, as well as the 2nd dpad for certain games since not everyone had a circle pad pro.

  • @SomeOrangeCat
    @SomeOrangeCat 4 роки тому +5

    Who is this? Jerek? Darren? UGH! I wish he introduced himself or something.

  • @TheFireSword87
    @TheFireSword87 2 роки тому +1

    small correction: Whitehead was the only developer for Sonic CD port. Stealth would join him later for the ports of Sonic 1 and 2.

  • @PersonaSama
    @PersonaSama 4 роки тому +1

    Great video! This reminded me: there was a Java version of Sonic 1 I had on my ancient flip phone, way back in the day. It ran like a slideshow and I played it like a strategy game from how slowly it performed on my phone. I haven’t seen it since then, but watching the GBA version of Sonic 1 did give me some flashbacks to it. Maybe the same team that developed the pre-smartphone java port developed the GBA version? Might be worth checking out if you wanna try every Sonic 1 port anyway. Thanks and have a good one!

  • @mustard_96
    @mustard_96 4 роки тому +5

    Sonic the Hedgehog Genesis GBA was one of my first sonic games. I thought it was good...until I got Sonic Mega Collection on GameCube and realized how bad it was....I never had the patience to get past Marble Zone.

    • @MaxOakland
      @MaxOakland 2 роки тому

      What was so broken about marble zone?

    • @mustard_96
      @mustard_96 2 роки тому

      @@MaxOakland nothing was broken in particular. It’s just that the slowdown in the GBA game made the parts where you have to push blocks too tedious for young me to stand

  • @smugscylla4481
    @smugscylla4481 4 роки тому +3

    *Sonic the hedgehog 1 on gba*
    DO NOT TOUCH THAT CURSED THING!!

  • @TheArkhamjester
    @TheArkhamjester 4 роки тому +1

    Okay, I need to clarify about that Virtual Boy comment. VB only sold 770,000 units worldwide. the Saturn sol 9.26 million. The Saturn flopped outside of glorious Nippon but it outpaced the Virtual Boy at least. Good lord failing to outsell the VB is like failing to outpace a 3 legged donkey.

    • @StopSkeletonsFromFighting
      @StopSkeletonsFromFighting  4 роки тому +1

      Yes, one was on store shelves for longer. But in the initial months of ‘95, Virtual Boy outsold the Sega Saturn. They both sold poorly, but, as we said in the video “Nintendo didn’t bet the farm on the Virtual Boy and could cut it free when it failed”. Sega on the other hand, was stuck with the Saturn,

  • @abels7254
    @abels7254 4 роки тому +1

    I remember getting Sonic Gba back when I was a kid and they still had gba games at walmart, I've never beat the game, always had laggy portions and ahhh I dont regret playing it, it's an experience

  • @davidmorin2818
    @davidmorin2818 4 роки тому +7

    10:48 How the west was worse

  • @boscosticc4897
    @boscosticc4897 4 роки тому +6

    uh oh. this is gonna be a train wreck

  • @kuropixel6871
    @kuropixel6871 4 роки тому

    Enjoyed this video. Looking forward to more videos about Sonic or ports!

  • @wii58739
    @wii58739 4 роки тому

    That was a super interesting episode Derek, who would have thought such a disaster of a game was the start of something much better in the end.

  • @CutBackDropTurn
    @CutBackDropTurn 4 роки тому

    I am a huge Sonic the Hedgehog fan and I just want to express how thankful I am that you guys were able to talk about good and bad aspects of certain ports without falling to the cliche of bashing the series. This was a fantastic video and I'd love to see you cover Sonic again in the future.

  • @Levitz9
    @Levitz9 4 роки тому

    Bless Derek and Producer Grace for their endless passion and enthusiasm, these videos are a delight.

  • @zm9996
    @zm9996 4 роки тому

    Always excited for a Stop Skeletons vid 😋
    EDIT: huge props for the Attitude Era mention

  • @kingedwardretro
    @kingedwardretro 4 роки тому

    I never realized how many different ports of Sonic the Hedgehog I have until you pointed it out to me. Thanks

  • @MartinMcHendry
    @MartinMcHendry 4 роки тому

    MORE SONIC PLEASE!
    I loved this episode, it's clear you really enjoyed it, too!

  • @andyhoffner6795
    @andyhoffner6795 4 роки тому

    Great video! I want more of that stuff !

  • @NeoRocket64
    @NeoRocket64 4 роки тому

    this is cool mylord i like it alot!
    the historical pieces are also cool. i like that sega just picked up his pitch and then years later sonic mania happened

  • @SFinerFACE
    @SFinerFACE 4 роки тому

    Such a great video!! Pumped for part 2!

  • @lunarbeing4982
    @lunarbeing4982 4 роки тому

    Great video!
    Also, would like to see you talk in detail about the unique Sonic 1 for the Master System!

  • @Sakkeru96
    @Sakkeru96 3 роки тому

    "It's sonic it's cool! Movie cool!"
    A don't dead open inside moment on that Jam cinema sign

  • @aidanmurrell9094
    @aidanmurrell9094 Рік тому

    2:30 - I think the "movie" that the movie theater was advertising was actually the Sonic OVA movie from 1996, which was released in two parts just one year before Sonic Jam was released to the Saturn. The Sonic OVA movie was a two-part animated, original video animation (OVA). It was a direct-to-video production, and was originally released in Japan on January 26, 1996 and March 22, 1996. There was an English translated dub to it which was produced later, but it strayed a bit from the original vision.

  • @justanotheryoutubechannel
    @justanotheryoutubechannel 3 роки тому +1

    Maybe it’s just the fact that I have an ear infection right now or something, but the Sega logo in Sonic Genesis doesn’t sound that bad, it reminds me of how it used to sound in the old iOS emulated version over the tinny speaker of the iPod I grew up with.

  • @trey9382
    @trey9382 2 роки тому

    This was a great video and inspired me to play some sonic. I've subbed

  • @Vokabre
    @Vokabre 4 роки тому +1

    For me, perhaps, the most unusual Sonic port is the one made for iPods, and officially sold by Apple back when they had iPod Games in iTunes Store. Now it’s hard to get to, as iTunes is discontinued, iPod Games even more so, and only those who bought this game for their iPods back when it was live, can play this game nowadays.

    • @lunarbeing4982
      @lunarbeing4982 4 роки тому

      that was a thing?!

    • @Vokabre
      @Vokabre 4 роки тому

      ​@@lunarbeing4982 Yep, the original Sonic the Hedgehog playable on iPod 5gen, iPod Classic, and iPod Nano 3rd gen (playabale on 4 and 5 i think) under the short-lived iTunes iPod Games category.

  • @RetroBreak
    @RetroBreak 4 роки тому

    Loved this episode! More sonic please!!

  • @KaedeLanyo
    @KaedeLanyo 4 роки тому

    Of COURSE i want more, man! Sonic's a fascination topic, be it the up, downs, or all-arounds!

  • @colleenglanville8293
    @colleenglanville8293 4 роки тому +1

    *"Sonic Jam Did Manage To Predict The Sonic Movie, There's That, Uh... I Thought The Movie Was Good, I Don't Know About COOL!"*
    *cuts to shocked Sonic face*
    Me: Dead! 😂💀

  • @KrunchyTheClown78
    @KrunchyTheClown78 4 роки тому

    Great video Derek Derek!

  • @MaximumDong
    @MaximumDong 4 роки тому

    I've been waiting for this day, Derek

  • @angelandres1130
    @angelandres1130 4 роки тому

    Can't wait to see the second part!

  • @Bofner
    @Bofner 4 роки тому +1

    I remember when you talked about how some kids were mario kids, some sonic kids, and you were a megaman kid. I was always a sonic kid. It's nice to see you covering sonic all these years later

    • @FigureFarter
      @FigureFarter 4 роки тому

      I was more into other stuff like, warioware, earthbound, and rhythm heaven

  • @sheepofwater
    @sheepofwater 4 роки тому

    Yum yum yes please more Sonic! Great vid

  • @colleenglanville8293
    @colleenglanville8293 4 роки тому +1

    Derek: Sonic 1 wasn't designed to go that fast, though, my dumba** still managed to get in trouble though.
    Sonic: I'm so so sorry...
    Derek: I'm not good at these games.
    Sonic: No, what I meant to say was "I'm so sorry that you have nothing more important to do in life."
    That was great lol! 😂😂😂

  • @draggonhedd
    @draggonhedd 4 роки тому

    Seriously, sonic game history and mystery is one rabbit hole that is fun as hell to dive down.

  • @Chlocean
    @Chlocean 4 роки тому

    Those switch joycons you've got are beautiful

  • @YamiSatoshi
    @YamiSatoshi 3 роки тому +1

    14:13 Sega does what Nintendon't -- hiring skilled programmers who re-worked their classic games instead of getting the lawyers involved!

  • @KB-ib4kj
    @KB-ib4kj 4 роки тому

    Great video! Would love more Sonic content.

  • @JayOfSpade
    @JayOfSpade 4 роки тому

    This was a real fun video! Some of the editing at the beginning was a bit jarring tho

  • @Randomninja47
    @Randomninja47 4 роки тому

    We definitely need more Sonic stuff please and thank you.

  • @mindfreek454
    @mindfreek454 3 роки тому

    This channel deserves more subs.

  • @jamiedoesstuff5871
    @jamiedoesstuff5871 4 роки тому

    Fun fact, there was actually a Sonic movie out by the time Sonic Jam was created- the Sonic OVA! Though it’s technically two episodes of a scrapped TV pilot smushed together...

  • @MrJRWalker1982
    @MrJRWalker1982 4 роки тому

    I always enjoy anything Sonic or Mario related, keep it coming

  • @nothingislogical
    @nothingislogical 4 роки тому +2

    Ohhh... we definitely need you to dive deeper. We want some Doom levels of deep diving here.

  • @dgamer5075
    @dgamer5075 4 роки тому

    Ah , Studiopolis 2 music from Sonic Mania during the Taxman and Stealth Port, a lovely prelude and foreshadow to the Mania bit

  • @joshmcgootermier2301
    @joshmcgootermier2301 4 роки тому

    So happy for a new video.

  • @zackschilling4376
    @zackschilling4376 4 роки тому

    I always just stare a Derek's GBA collection, especially that Zero Mission box...mad jelly of it.

  • @thederrit
    @thederrit 4 роки тому

    I hope that SSFF delves into other Sonic topics as well - there are a lot of interesting concepts to dive into on the handheld end that feel SSFF-friendly:
    - All of the handheld-exclusive platformers that were fairly well-liked and promptly never seen again (Sonic Advance 1/2/3, Sonic Rush + Sonic Rush Adventures)
    - Some of the wildly experimental stuff on handhelds (turn-based RPG Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood, arena fighter Sonic Battle, 2d racers Sonic Rivals 1+2, so many more)
    - SO many racing games. *so* many.
    And that's without even getting into the more well-trodden territory of the Wii titles, '06, and the funkiness of modern-era 3D Sonic.

  • @MegaSombra
    @MegaSombra 4 роки тому +1

    After watching this video i still strongly believe Sonic Genesis is not even a port of the original game, but the Sonic Cafe version released back in 2005, except the controls feel wonkier on GBA and it has a lot of minor tweaks and differences.
    Like the choppy (or non-existent) animations for breakable walls and blocks, the way Sonic's slope physics got toned down significantly and you cannot reset your horizontal speed just as you land on a solid surface after taking damage (making you keep sliding backwards unless you jump), the inclusion of the special stages and A TON of smaller details that the devs either added on top of it (like the Spin Dash and correcting some of the animations, unlike the title screen) or completely missed, making it even more inconsistent.
    Sonic's sprites now have a few little dirty looking pixels and the exact same palette with a soft green gradient when you're underwater in both Labyrinth and Scrap Brain Zone and the same goes for some of the objects in act 3.
    Every sideways spring got flipped/mirrored in each level leaving their highlights and shadows in the opposite direction.
    All the switches were replaced with the ones from Marble zone for some reason.
    The screen crunch can easily make enemies and other objects go back to their original position sooner.
    And the amount of invincibility frames the game gives you after getting hit is still pretty much the same as the mobile/iFone port though you'll most likely not notice that on your first run, mainly due to the awful frame rate and everything else.
    So i don't really think people should keep calling it just a port of the original release given how it shares more similarities with this version while still keeping the aesthetic from the other one, unless someone compares the 3 of them head to head in the future.
    Now that'd be very interesting to see

  • @Inferno505
    @Inferno505 4 роки тому

    I bought Sonic 2006, and it's strategy guide, when it released. It was the last Sonic game I bought for the longest time. I'm still haunted by the load times. The strategy guide was also equally a mess, it was divided between the three characters in a very weird way that was hard to follow.
    Also, my friend bought the game boy advance port of Sonic 1 as their first introduction to Sonic the hedgehog and they were thoroughly disappointed.
    I really liked seeing all these ports and I'm definitely up for more Sonic port expiration!

  • @KamenRiderAliks
    @KamenRiderAliks 4 роки тому

    Awesome shirt there, Derek!

  • @TiberiumMedia
    @TiberiumMedia 4 роки тому

    There was a mobile Sonics like Sonic 2 Dash, Sonic 1, Sonic Unleashed by Gameloft and many more. Video is amazing and welcome back in these hard days. #StaySafeDerek

  • @CarletonTorpin
    @CarletonTorpin 4 роки тому

    Thank you for sharing your joy. :)

  • @lirfrank
    @lirfrank 4 роки тому +1

    "It inspired me with it's awfulness."
    As an editor, this spoke to me.

  • @nickmalcom6360
    @nickmalcom6360 4 роки тому

    in all seriousness, the "sonic movie" it predicted is actually the 1999 OVA (which did get an english dub), which is known for being one of the best game to film adaptations.

  • @chevmatic2034
    @chevmatic2034 4 роки тому

    Heck yes Derek! Do another Sonic Ports video!

  • @CCzarMasta56
    @CCzarMasta56 4 роки тому

    Sonic Jam was my... Jam! I still don't know how my family got a Sega Saturn but we did and with Sonic Jam. That's how I was introduced to Sonic. When I got the Collection on GameCube, I was confused as to why I couldn't do a spin dash in Sonic 1 when I remembered vividly that you were able to. I loved Sonic Jam. Spent a lot of time checking out all the extras. That Japanese cover looks awesome!

  • @CarlMakesVideos
    @CarlMakesVideos 4 роки тому

    4:54 there WAS a Smash Pack 2, though it wasn't designated as a "volume". It released on PC in 2000, had Flicky, Sonic 2, Vectorman 2, Comix Zone, Kid Chameleon, and Super Hang-On.

  • @lady1kaka
    @lady1kaka 4 роки тому

    I really love this channel ♥️