TORRENT 2 vs SPEEDGOAT 4 Shoe Review | Hoka One One | Run4Adventure
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- Опубліковано 6 лип 2024
- We obviously get lots of questions at the channel about running shoes whether it'd be road shoes or trail shoes, but in particular we get a lot of questions about the HOKA ONE ONE Speedgoat 4 and the new Torrent 2. So we thought we'd bring you a review with a difference and it's the first time we've done a comparison review on the channel.
So sit back and check out Run4Adventure's comparison review to see how we feel about the Speedgoat 4 and the Torrent 2. Really hope you enjoy it, guys, and it answers some of the questions you've had on these two great trail running shoes from HOKA ONE ONE.
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This is the comparison I’ve been waiting for
That's great 😊
Glad we could help and thanks for watching the channel 🙏
Very helpful comparison thank you. I’m looking into some new trail shoes and there’s such a plethora of choices it can be hard. I run most of my trail stuff on dry mountain trails so you’ve really helped,y decision making. Thanks
That's great I'm really glad we could help! Thanks for watching the channel and enjoy your new shoes 🙏
Great comparison 👌 Keep them up!! 👍👍
Awesome Paul, really glad you enjoyed it and thanks for watching the channel 🙏
We've got some cool stuff planed for the next few months so keep your eyes peeled 👀😊
Loved the comparison!
Thanks Kelly really glad you enjoyed it and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊
This is great. I'd certainly like to see more comparison videos, it really helps. I'm looking to do a 50 miler on the South Downs Way and trying to work out what shoe I should be buying.
Thanks very much 👍
Yeap it's been a popular review so we'll definitely be doing more comparison videos. The next one will be the Nike Wildhorse 6 vs Pegasus Trail 2 😊
Thanks for watching the channel and good luck with the 50 miler 🏃💪
I was actually just looking at these two shoes, so thanks for the comparison!
No worries Laura, really glad you found it helpful 👍
Don't forget to subscribe to our channel to keep up to date with future content and thanks for watching the channel 🙏
Great comparison. Keep up the great work and passion. New sub and greetings from Munich!
Thanks very much so glad you enjoyed the review and thanks for the sub it's really appreciated 👍
Happy running!
Really helpful video! Thank you!
No problem Kelly, really glad you found it useful 😊
Thanks for watching the channel and don't forget to subscribe to keep up to date with future content 🙏
Very helpful. I think I made the right choice in buying a pair of the Torrents.
Awesome Grant glad you found it useful and thanks for watching 🙏
Excellent review, I went to my local Hoka supplier and I was almost "forced" to buy the Speedgoat. Went for the Torrent 2 (due to your explanation) and I am very pleased with the outcome 👌
Awesome Kristoffer 👍
Really glad the review was helpful and your enjoying your Torrents! Thanks for watching the channel and taking the time to comment it's really appreciated 🙏
Own both of these trail shoes and love them both. It is great to have each one since it will allow you to tackle the same trail in different ways. Some days I want that nice cushion in the speedgoat and other days I want to pick up the pace and go at a more race pace and use the torrents.
Well put and it totally agree with you Adam! 👍😊
As always, impressive comparison video. Would you mind doing a video on Saucony peregrine 10 vs Speedgoat 4?
Awesome, thanks very much 👍
I'll see what we can do, thanks for watching the channel its really appreciated 🙏
Great comparison. Thanks
No worries Ron, really glad you enjoyed it 👍
I think we'll be doing more comparison videos in the future 😊
Thanks for watching 🙏
Great comparison!
Thanks Andrew really glad you enjoyed it and thanks for watching 🙏
The Speedgoat 4 is my go-to shoe for anything over about 8 miles. I keep my Torrent 1s for off road park runs and anything short and fast.
Sounds like good shoe rotation to me! Thanks for watching the channel 🙏
Enjoying all your videos, some of them might be as close to Arc recces as I can get! What would your opinion be on Speedgoat 4s as a shoe for the Arc100?
It really depends on the weather conditions James? People do wear the SG for the race but if it's muddy conditions it really doesn't give you enough grip on most of the course!
Thanks for watching the channel I'm glad you're enjoying it 🙏😊
Thanks for the interesting comparison. I’m preparing for a 58km ultra with 4000m elevation. It’s a new trail but supposed to be quite technical. I’m currently using the speedgoat 4 but I want to try the torrent at least for some shorter runs . It’s hard to get trail shoes in my size where i live and usually I have to order them on the internet
No worries Matt, thanks for watching 👍
The race sounds awesome, where abouts is it? I used the Speedgoats when I ran UTMB and it performed really well in the technical rocky areas. Also when you've got long, steep desents to run it definitely helps having a bit of extra cushioning 😊
Good luck with your training and the race 🏃♂️💪
Great review
Thanks Keith, glad you enjoyed it and thanks for watching 🙏😊
Hey Loyd,
great comparison - I really enjoy your videos!
I'm a lightweight hiker with about 12 kg on my back and and wore mountain boots in the past, but am looking forward to change to trail runners.
Right now I am torn between the Saucony Peregrine 10 and the Hoka Speedgoat 4. Can you share any wisdom if the cushioning in the speedgoat is more comfortable during hiking or more likely to get in the way?
PS: My next trail will be the Cape Wrath Trail :)
Thanks very much I'm glad you enjoyed it 👍
Well the Speedgoats will definitely give you a lot more cushioning under foot but you'll always lose a bit of ground connection. It's not bad but it might take a bit of getting use to 😊
The Peregrine 10 would give you way more connection and grip in muddy conditions but it's not as deeply cushioned 😊
Both shoes will definitely do what you want but it come down to your personal preference, do you want connection or cushioning?
Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel it's really appreciated 🙏
2 years and 8 different shoe types later, the Torrent continues to be my scalpel of choice. Been through 3 pairs and 850 mikes thus far. Now, if Hoka were to put a BOA system on it, hot damn, game over.
Great review/comparison AND presentation! I am a big fan of the Challenger ATR which I use mainly on sandy trails (beach, dunes, forest) but also on harder ground and even paved roads. and the Speedgoat for running in the mountains. I have a wide forefoot and that is why the Challenger ATR is so good for me. How would you compare the Torrent 2 with the Challenger ATR? One more thing, the ATR does a great job keeping sand out of the shoes. How does the upper of the Torrent cope with sand? Thanks a lot! Cheers from Holland.
I've got to be honest I'm not a big fan of the ATR 😔
For me and where I run it really doesn't have enough grip! It's really a road shoe with just a little bit more grip 😊 If youve got a wide forefoot how do you get away with the Speedgoats, they're super narrow, have you got it in a wide fit?
The Torrent 2 is a really nice trail shoe, compared to the ATR I'd say its a bit more responsive and it's definitely got more grip when it comes to the outsole 👍
As far as width I've run in the Speedgoat and Torrents for years and I'd say the Torrent has a bit more width in the toe 👍
Hope this helps and thanks for the support 🙏
Love your reviews! You have a wonderful presence. Would you say the Torrent 2 is 2E width or close to it? For comparison, the Inov8 g270 is a little narrow for me and the Altra Superior 4.5 is perfect.
That's great really glad you are enjoying the channel 👍
The Torrent 2 is a standard D width shoe. Obviously a 2E width would vary in every brand but its going to be wider than a standard fit Torrent and unfortunately Hoka don't do a width fit Torrent. If the Inov-8 shoe is to narrow the Torrent will be to narrow. I'd personally say if Altras work for you I'd stick with that brand because it what they specialise in, a wide toe box 😊
Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏
@@Run4Adventure Very helpful. Thank you!
Thanks for the comparison. Want to get some Torrents but the Speedgoat 4's I have were so narrow in my usual 8.5 I had to move up to a 9 to get over that. Think I will try 8.5 with the Torrent 2 as that is my size in Clifton 6 and there is just enough width there in the standard fit! Cheers
No worries Rich and thanks for watching the channel 👍
The Speedgoat is pretty narrow, Hoka do do the SG4'S in a width fit which would give you more room.
If you fit in a standard Clifton uk8.5 you'll be fine in a Torrent 2 in a uk8.5 👍 Hope this helps and don't forget to subscribe to our channel to keep up to date with future content 🙏
Hiya, great video👍 do either of them have a rock plate?
Hi Chris, really glad you enjoyed it and thanks 👍
No neither shoes has a rock plate. Obviously the Speedgoat has a lot of cushioning with that deep outsole so it really doesn't need a rock plate! 😊
I think the Torrent would actually run a bit better with a rock plate in and I mentioned that in my full review of the shoe 👍
Thanks for watching the channel and don't forget to subscribe to keep up to date with future content 🙏
Like the comparison theme
Awesome Christine, really glad you enjoyed it 😊
We'll definitely be more of these comparison videos, thanks for watching the channel 🙏
Great video! Wich would be your choice, the Hoka Speadgoat 4 or the Saucony Peregrine 11?
Thanks Jan, glad you enjoyed it!
I would personally go for the Peregrine. I was a big fan of the Speedgoat 3 and I ran 1000's of miles in them but I didn't get on with the Speedgoat 4 🤔
Hope this helps and thanks for watching 🙏
Great video. Well explained. Im flat footed, i noticed you didn’t mention anything regarding this. Is this because it doesn’t matter about foot shape when buying Hoka’s? Or am I missing something ? thank you.
Thanks Matthew, I'm glad you enjoyed the review 👍
I'd say if you're flat footed you might get on better with the Torrent. The Speedgoats have quite a pronounced arch in the midsole and that could cause irritation. Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel it's really appreciated 🙏
I like the speedgoat. Im 6'1 220lbs , I also have the Torrents. I will say if you include the weight of a runner the Speedgoats are the ones you should use most of the time. I use the torrents for shorter runs under 10 miles and if the terrain is not to rugged. Great Review Thanks
Thanks Thomas that's really appreciated and thanks for watching the channel 🙏
Thanks a lot for this video. Just bought the Torrent 2 after 700 miles with the Torrent 1. Tomorrow I will test these on a muddy track, so I hope they will indeed offer more grip than the previous ones. I am also using these shoes for my road running, hence I am afraid the more sticky Torrent 2 might wear quite quickly...
Question 1: which Hoka would you advice me for my road running. ?
Question 2: what are the best shoes for Finish track, especially with big shavings ?
No problem Ben thanks for watching the channel 👍
I hope the grip performed well on your Torrent 2's. It should wear similar to your original Torrents but they'll always wear a lot quicker if your using them for road as well! 😕
As far as road Hokas I'd definitely recommend the Rincon, it's a great lightweight neutral road shoe 👍
Not sure about Finish tracks? Didn't your Torrents work?
Hope this helps Ben and don't forget to subscribe to our channel to keep up to date with future content 🙏
👋 hello. What would you recommend as a good door to trail shoe. As I am looking to do more trail running this fall/winter. Thanks for you help in advance 👍 😊
Hi there
Theirs quite a few trail shoes that will haddle that now a days. The brands have finally realised that we don't all live on a trail or coast path!
Hoka Torrent 2
Hoka Speedgoat 3 or 4
Saucony Peregrine 10
Saucony Xodus 10
Nike Pegasus Trail 2
Salomon Sense Ride 3
Brooks Cascadia 14
All the above shoes will do that but obviously everyone's foot shape is different, everyone runs differently and the trail we run on can be so varied. I'd always recommend going to a good running shop and trying on as many pair as possible 👍
You'll know when you've got the right pair on your feet! 👌
Hope this helps Mr Random and thanks for watching the channel 🙏
I was looking for a shoe for mixed running: regular Dovestone Reservoir and further mountain runs in Lakes and Snowdonia. I was going to get some cushioned shoes with maximum feeling of the surface, and after trying few pairs (Torrents as well)
I ended up as an owner of Speedgoat 4 and I must say: Extra cushioning is nothing wrong as long as the front part of your foot sits tight in the shoe, not letting for any excessive movement side by side.
I tried Altra Footshape on, but the midsole felt too soft and didn't have any front control.
In this particular type of running I need to know what is going on underneath but too stiff is not good either.
I had injury at my first run in new Salomons Speedcross because they are too stiff and they've got too agressive grip, not working on rocky mountain surface at all, bending foot randomly.
In my opinion agressive hard grip and low cushionig shouldn't be called TRIAL shoes - I would call them MUDDY TRACTORS and probably they are great only for farmers runing on their mudy fields.
They become danger when you step on rocks.
This is my first proper trial shoe and after just two runs I have beaten my numbers already.
Vibram on Speedgoats is super grippy and super soft the same time.
It sounds like you've found your shoe, thanks for watching our review I hope you enjoyed it 🏃😊
I totally agree, deep aggressive lugs for mud but when it comes to rock or wet rock you really can't beat Vibram megagrip rubber, it sticks like glue and gives you so much confidence! 👍
Thanks for watching the channel, enjoy your trail running and don't forget to subscribe to our channel to keep up to date with future content 🙏
I'm running dry-ish trails in my Bondi 6s so I think the Speedgoat is going to be the way to go for me. The extra plush is important because I get stiff feet and lower back problems if the shoes are too narrow or firm. Thanks for this vid, Loyd
If you like the feel of the Bondi then I'm pretty sure you'll like the Speedgoat 4 David 👍
It has a similar level of cushioning underfoot but you'd have a lot more traction from the outsole! Thanks for watching the channel it's really appreciated 🙏
@@Run4Adventure Thanks Loyd!
@@davidlittle7182 No worries 👍😊
Good share, do you know if Hoka is releasing new versions of trail shoes in 2022, I saw few reviews of Hoka Speedgoat 5 but that's it.
Thanks Ludovic 👍
Yeap, Hoka have the new Speedgoat 5 but they've also got the Tecton X, which is their Carbon plated trail shoe. Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊
Just completed my first run in the Torrent 2 and compared to the SG4s, they are much more responsive and the obvious, less squishy. My legs feel less fatigued than I have noticed them to be after with the SG4s. New go-to for the trails for sure.
That's great Clay 👌
It's definitely a much more responsive shoe compared to the SG. Really glad you've found a shoe that works for you, enjoy your running and thanks for watching the channel and taking the time to comment it's really 🙏😊
I found the Speedgoats fatigued my feet due to too much cushioning. Trying the torrents now.
I would like to have shoes that have both the lightness of TORRENT 2, moderate cushioning, and the stability of SPEEDGOAT 4.
Loyd, thank you for such a usefull review. I'm preparing for my first 60 km ultra +2100m altitude gain, the rout is not too rocky. What would you prefere for the task: Torrent 2 or Peregrine 10 ? Thanks
To be fair Renat both shoes would handle that course fine. I would personally still go for the Peregrine 10's. I've found it really comfortable over distance. The grip on the Peregrine is better than the Torrent 2 and I think having the rock plate in the forefoot of the shoe is a real bonus 👍 The Torrent 2 is slightly lighter in weight but you don't really notice the difference when your running. Hope this helps and good luck with your training and your first Ultra. What race are you running? 🤔
Thanks for watching the channel it's really appreciated 🙏
@@Run4Adventure Loyd, thank you for your detailed reply, I have made my choice for Peregrine 10. I'm planning to run a Taganai-Turgoyak Ultratrail on June 13, 2021. That is a local event not far from my place: ultra.irunclub.ru/ In case I accomplish my training program in time, I consider Dagestan Wild Trail (52km, 3100 D+) wildtrail.ru/dwt/ on April 11, 2021 as an option. That is real mountain race and definitely more ambitious goal. Thanks again for your advise
This type of comparison should be done far more. Great review.
When you say in store. I take it you work at PB Running?
Thanks I really appreciate that 👍
I actually use to manage At Your Pace in Helston but unfortunately because of the current situation the shop had to close! 😔
Thanks for watching the channel it's really appreciated and I'm glad you enjoyed it 🙏
@@Run4Adventure ah gutted mate. That side of Cornwall really needs a good running shop
@@Northernerdownsouth
Yeap it sure is but hopefully their might be a new running shop opening very soon! 😉
#everycloud
@@Run4Adventure interesting. I'm in Plymouth but any excuse for an adventure and new shoes N+1
@@Northernerdownsouth like it "adventure" 👍
Thanks for the informative review. Will definitely give the Torrent 2’s ago as part of my rotation providing they are wide enough for my feet. Am personally curious as to the level of grip from the Torrent’s compared to the Vibram Megagrip or the Contogrip in Salomon which work extremely well on the steep wet (slightly mossy) concrete paths all over Hong Kong as opposed to the outsole from the Challenger ATR which is abysmal. Could you please inform me which amazing trail you are running in your intro between 0:18 & 030 👍🏻
Thanks Chris,
To be fair I would judge the Torrent grip on the ATR, I personally think the ATR is a terrible shoe! 😊
It's definitely not a trail shoe! It's just a road shoe with a slightly different outsole. The grip is rubbish!
I would still say the Vibram Megagrip is slightly stickier than the Torrents but it's still very good 👍
Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel it's really appreciated 🙏
Run 4 Adventure Thanks for your reply and so agree. Now for that little question, regarding that trail your on......or is it a secret ?
Sorry yes, Top secret...... Not really, its a place called the North Cliff's in Cornwall 👍
It really is a stunning place to run and lucky for me it's about a 10 minute drive from where I live 🏃😊
We have some amazing trails to run in Cornwall that's for sure 👍
Torrent 2 turning up ready for a ride 👍
Awesome Adam 👍
Hope you enjoy them and thanks for watching 🙏
Thanks for the video. If you had to recommend one trail running shoe model purely for hiking, which one would you pick? I detest hiking boots so I'm looking for a lightweight trail shoe which is comfortable for walking long distances. Not for snow or icey conditions. A massive plus would be if its reasonably water resistant, and if it dries up fast after getting wet. Cheers.
Also, doesn't have to be one of these :)
I think the Speedgoat makes a pretty good hiking shoe and Hoka actually make it in a boot version for hiking 👍 Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏
I have been very happy using the SG3 but feeling tempted by the Torrent since I got them on sight for the first time. Maybe later on I decide to give them a go.
I loved the SG3's Javier its a great shoe 👍 The Torrent is a really good allrounder but it is quite a different feeling shoe compared to the SG 😊
Thanks for watching the channel 🙏
@@Run4Adventure I come back to this video 1 year later. Got the Torrent 2 and love them (+700km in). But now on sales both SG4 and Torrent 2.. decisions decisions
@@JavierISampedroTNF
If its not broken, don't fix it Javier! If you've really hot on with the Torrent I'd stick with it. The Speedgoat is a very different shoe, maybe get both if they're both in the sales 😉
Thanks for watching 🙏
@@Run4Adventure get them both would be the easiest, no doubt 😂 will ask the pillow, hehe
Hi, first time watcher but now subscribed. I'm training for my first 50 mile ultra and was deliberating between the Saucony Xodus 10 and the Speedgoat 4. Can't find any decent reviews of the latest Xodus but the few that I have found rate it highly (shares the same excellent PWRN+ midsole as the Triumph 17). As a heavier set runner would you recommend I consider the Torrent 2 also or stick with the current options?
Hi Craig
So glad you found us and thanks so much for the sub 🙏
I personally think your original choice would be better 👍
The Torrent 2 definitely has quite a lot less depth of cushioning than the Speedgoats and the Xodus. You're right the PWRRUN+ compound is great compound! The Xodus is quite heavy but it's very similar in construction to the Peregrine 10 and I'm a massive fan of that shoe. Obviously the Speedgoat offers a lot of cushion but if you haven't run in Hokas before it does take a bit of time to get use to them 👍
Hope this helps and best of luck with the 50! Which race are you doing? Thanks for watching 🙏
Run 4 Adventure GBUltras Pennine Barrier is the main goal but also M2L, Chester and AlwaysAimHigh Snowdon Ultra are on the agenda (probably not all of them though). Thanks for the tip, I did have a pair of SG2s but they were too small and tight in the toe box. Might stick with the Xodus which uses a softer foam than the Peregrine PWRN+ vs regular PWRN. Apparently it’s softer at the cost of responsiveness, not a massive issue over 50 miles 😀
@@craigdennen6193 Sounds good Craig, they do the Speedgoat 4 in a width fit now if you did what to go for the Hokas but needed more room. Yeah the Peregrine 10 has PWRRUN+ as a top sole and PWRRUN as the midsole so it gives you an idea, I've also run in the Triumph 17's 😊
It's definitely soft and comfortable compound, but you'll always sacrifice a bit of responsiveness and ground feel 👍
Run 4 Adventure thanks again, I’ll check them out. Great comparison review by the way, no waffle and very clear information 👍🏼
@@craigdennen6193 thanks Craig it's appreciated 👍🙏
Merci pour ce comparatif👌. Je n ai pas tout compris le parlé est rapide😅mais j ai compris l'essentiel. Je fais des trails court 10/20kms et je vais m'orienter vers les torrent 2.
Merci pour cette vidéo👍
Salute, desole de parler si vite! Le Torrent 2 serait parfait pour ce genre de distance. Merci d'avoir regarde la chaine 🙏😊
Think I might replace the senserides in my rotation with torrents when the time comes. I wear Jawz and speedgoat now as well so they should sit in between nicely. Hopefully the rubber will tolerate the bit of roadwork I do between the trails.
How do the Mafate fit into the range?
Great video as always, love the channel
I think the Torrents would fit in perfectly 👍
The Mafate is more like your Speedgoats but I personally thinks its a bit stiffer and less responsive than the Speedgoats 😊
So glad you're enjoying the channel and thanks for your kind words 🙏
Great comparison video. BTW did I meet you at Enduroman 200 in the year Steve Wyatt smashed it? I owe you and your crew a massive thanks for your amazing help and support.
@@thomashayward9524 Thanks Thomas and yes we did meet 😊
How are you doing? Still running I hope 🏃
@@Run4Adventure I'm all good thanks. Yep still running - if you can call it that - still doing the ultras, although the Enduroman nearly cured me.
Can i ask. The evo jawz and speed goat. Is there much difference in sizing. As I bought the jawz in 8s but they were way to small. Thanks
Is the Hoka a bit of a off on road shoe then? Great review.
They are both trail shoes but they can definitely handle a bit of tarmac a long the way Marc 👍
Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel it's really appreciated 🙏😊
Great review again mate this has tipped the balance for me to get peregrine 10s plus they come in a wide version I had the 1st Torrents but had durability issues with the sole! Which looks like they’ve altered for the 2s it’s hard to see where they could trim weight of on the peregrine
? Maybe the rock plate would have to go !!
That's great Morgan, the Peregrine 10 is a great shoe 👍
Yeap the outsole has changed slightly on the Torrent 2 but it is still the same compound.
I think Saucony could loose a bit of weight off the Peregrine maybe 20-30g but you wouldn't want to loose the rock plate because it works so well! 😊
Thanks for watching the channel it's really appreciated 🙏
Run 4 Adventure Thanks Loyd don’t suppose Inov8 are going to slip you a pair of Terra Ultra G270 to review next 🤔🙏😂
I doubt it Morgan 😂
I would be interested in running it though 🤔
Run 4 Adventure 😭 shame it’s getting good reviews we just need more subs ! Then the freebies will flow 🤣
Yeap I think you're right 👍😂
I have wide feet and can’t get on with speedgoat. Had 3 pairs of torrents for races up to 50k. Got my 1st pair of torrent 2. Again a great shoe. For longer distance I use hoka evo mafate and hoka challenger atr 5 wide. Great review as always. Thank you
Thanks Paul really glad you enjoyed the review 👍
Glad you're enjoying the new Torrent 2's. Thanks for watching the channel and happy running 🙏
Paul, how do you find the width of the evo mafate? I also run in Challenger wides and Torrents but find the speedboat toebox a little narrow. I also have found the torrents get a little sloppy over 200 miles.
Nicholas Fleming - the torrents lugs wear down quickly at back for me. The evo mafate fit between torrent and atr wide.. live torrents for shorter stuff, wouldn’t like to wear over 50 k as I think my feet would be so sore
Paul Coates thanks! I always assumed they’d be a lot narrower, this is very good information, especially not being able to visit a shop right now.
I always found the Mafate a bit big and bulky, a bit to much shoe. It always felt a bit to stiff at the midfoot for me as well 🤔
I honestly love my SG4. But it does feel a bit unconnected. Also it feels a bit weird when you're climbing long staircases. Either way, its the most comfortable shoe if ever hiked with.
Unfortunately the more soft cushioning you put under your foot the less connected you are Shuhaid.
But you're right it makes it a very comfortable shoe 😊
Thanks for watching the channel it's really appreciated 🙏
Hi, Whats better option mafate speed 3 or speedgoat 4 for hiking with wet rocks?
To be fair both shoes would do that really well but you can get the Speedgoat in a waterproof version. Hope this helps Silvia and thanks for watching the channel it's appreciated 🙏😊
what shoe did you resole? Can you expand on that?
Hi there
I had my original Hoka Torrents re-soled with Vibram megagrip Litebase 👍
I was at a race called UTMB and Vibram bring a big lorry to the race and in the back of the lorry they have work stations and they re-sole your shoes for free! 👍
I'm a big fan of Vibram megagrip so I got it put on the shoes, it's great rubber 👌🏃
Have you heard about issues with the transparent protection on the SG4? I had to send a pair back since it « unglued » itself after 10 kilometers or so. I got a second pair for which I am keeping my fingers crossed ans I really like this shoe... thanks
Yes I have 😔
I've had a few friends who run in the SG4's have that happen to theirs! I think it's a random manufacturing problem because mine have been fine, no issues at all 👍
Hope your replacement shoes works out better! Thanks for watching the channel and taking the time to comment 🙏
@@Run4Adventure if it's random, I'll keep sending them back until I got a normal one :-D
Else there's the speedgoat EVO, but they're more expensive...
@@JeanFrancoisRemyJF Definitely, keep sending them back! 👍😊
@@Run4Adventure and the 3rd pair was the good one! Still enjoying them like hell, and no issue with the protection anymore.
@@JeanFrancoisRemyJF
That's good to hear Jean-Francois! 👍
Am I the only one who loves hoka but everytime I run them I risk to twist my ankle? I love the cushioning because I'm 1.83cm tall and I weigh 81kgs. But that gigantic sole makes me lose balance sometimes and lose a little precision in technical downhills. I used speedgoat Evo and hoka mafate. Which shoe you suggest me to try? I need cushioning because I'm heavy but also balance! Ty so much. Post scriptum: i run mostly under 20km but I'm starting to go higher!
You're definitely not the only one Massimo! I have lots of runners who try them on in store and feel very unstable underfoot. Unfortunately when ever you put a lot of deep cushioning under your foot you are going to loose connection and ground feel. Any trail shoe with a lot of cushioning is probably going to give you this feel but it might be worth trying on a pair of Salomon Ultra Glides. It's still a deeply cushioned trail shoe but I feel pretty connected when I'm on the technical stuff 👍
Hope this helps and thanks for watching 🙏
In Between??? I tried on a pair of Hoka Speedgoat 4's, they were too
squishy for me.....what would be a max shoe that is a tad less squishy
but still offers rock protection and decent shock absorption. Currently
i am on the other end of the scale with a 2year old pair of Altra Lone
Peak 3.0s (stack ht of 25mm but feel like barefoot at times) which can
feel a toothpick if you ran over one. I need some bounce, shock
absorption, rock protection.......you get the idea. thanks in advance
Hi there
That's a tricky one! Obviously if you want a bouncy shoes then it has to be cushioned and soft 😊
Obviously the Speedgoats will take a bit of getting use to after your Lone Peaks, maybe you just need to use them more and make the transition?
Maybe take a look at the -
Altra Olympus (might be to soft)
Saucony Xodus 10
Topo Mountain Racer
New balance fresh foam Hierro v5
Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel I hope you enjoyed it 🙏
@@Run4Adventure thanks for the reply, i ordered a pair of saucony xodus 10s, will report back how i make out with those, thanks for your videos!
Awesome, hope you enjoy them 👍
Any suggestions on an all terrain shoe for roads, dirt paths, coast paths etc
Hi Alex
That's a pretty tricky combination! It really depends on the amount of road running you do? If it's a lot then you probably need a road shoe and a trail shoe. Obviously the coast path is very different to running on compared to the road, especially in winter conditions! To be honest both these shoes will do that but there will always be compromise 😊. Hoka also do the Challenger ATR which is designed to handle a mix of terrain including road running but it's not that grippy when it comes to the trails. Here's a few others to check out -
Brooks Cascadia👟
Brooks Divide👟
Salomon Sense Ride👟
NB Fresh foam hierro v5👟
Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel, don't forget to subscribe to keep up to date with future content 🙏
@@Run4Adventure thanks for the reply. I'm very new to running. I've just been doing main road / B roads, trails and coastbpaths around st Ives/carbis bay. Thanks for the advice I'll check them out.
Awesome Alex 👍
If you run around that area we might bump into each other at some point 😊
Give us a shout if we do 👍
The Torrent 2 are suitable for walking every day 20-25 km for 1 month (Camino di Santiago)? I weight 70 kg and I will have 7kg backpack.
Definitely Marco 👍
A good shoe for that, nice and lightweight, very breathable and well cushioned for the road sections you'll have to do. It might be worth taking two pairs though and rotating them a long the way 😊
Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏
Please compare Peregrine 10 vs Spedgoat 4?
I'll see what I can do Ljuba but there's a new model of Peregrine just about to come out so maybe I'll compare the Peregrine 11 to the Speedgoat 4 🤔
Thanks for watching the channel it's really appreciated 🙏
I can't decide between these two, I'm not a runner but do hike alot in the California Redwood trails, and sub tropical mountains in mexico where it can be dry and rocky or wet and muddy at any moment, I'm also a photographer, so I got 3 lenses and camera plus snacks and water, which shoe do you think would be the best option?
Hi Carlos
I'd personally go for the Speedgoats if I was going for any long hikes. It's a very comfortable shoe to wear for long periods of time and the Vibram megagrip outsole is really grippy.
Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel it's really appreciated 🙏😊
@@Run4Adventure much appreciated 🙏🙏🙏
@@CarlosRamirez-zy2uz No worries, thanks for watching 👍
I've heard people say the Speedgoat toe box is snug. I've had no problems with Rincon, Clifton 7, and Challenger ATR 6. Is the Speedgoat 4 toe box, or even the EVO Speedgoat toe box comparable to one of those? (Is one better than the other?) I'd prefer not to go wide because I find I have heel slippage.
If you've been OK in the Clifton and the ATR you should be fine in the Speedgoat 4 but I personally think the Evo is a better shoe 👍
Hope this helps Travis and thanks for watching the channel 🙏
@@Run4Adventure Thanks! Ordered both so will try them on and see :) Great channel!
How many kilometers can I do with the torrent 2? Less than 30-40km? Thanks 😁
Hi Dario
It's very personal when it comes to distance in a shoe 🤔
I'd happily run the Torrent 2 up to 50miles 👍
It's not as cushioned as some of the Hokas but it's still got plenty of cushioning in the midsole. Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel it's really appreciated 🙏
Thanks for the video!
I tried the speedgoats and my feet would fall asleep. Tried relaxing multiple times and eventually a larger size, but then they were too large. Ended up purchasing a pair of torrents and they’re awesome!
Thanks again!
No worries Christopher thanks for watching 👍
Yep Speedgoats definitely don't work for everyone! Really glad you're enjoying the Torrents though 😊
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Run 4 Adventure Thanks! And I just did (and the bell)!
@@ckokomo808 awesome Christopher, thanks 👍
Welcome to the family and well done for hitting the Bell! 🔔🙏
I wanted to like the speedgoat, but I just can't abide that overlay on top of the toes. It makes it stiff and bend inwards to the shoe so that it rubs on top of my toes. I wish they would get rid of it, it doesn't look to serve any purpose anyway.
I kind of agree, I don't know why they added that to the Speedgoat 4? 🤔
It doesn't really serve a purpose and I can see how it could cause irritation to some. I haven't had an issue with it but it really doesn't need to be there! 😊
Thanks for watching the channel I hope you enjoyed it 🙏
I’ve been loyal to the Speedgoats since the beginning but I’m not a fan of the 4 GTX I bought. My size is about 400g! I’ve since picked up the Nike Trail 2 and out of the box, they are a great shoe.
Hi Ryan
Thanks for watching the channel 👍
Yep I kind of feel the same way about the SG4'S, I loved the SG3's but haven't got on with the 4 as well. I've just got a pair of the Pegasus Trail 2 and to be fair it's even heavier than the SG4'S!!! I'm not convinced with the shoe at the moment 🤔
I've only do 20 miles in it so far so my opinions might change but not sure at the moment 👍
Run 4 Adventure I really enjoy your content! Are your SG4 Gortex? Mine are and it adds some weight, making my Trail 2 lighter. This is my first shoe with the React foam and I’m enjoying the soft ride. They are definitely not a light shoe, going back to the Peg 36 Trail, that shoe is about 40g lighter. Less stack and easier to get up to speed. :) I hope that with more miles, you grow to enjoy your Trails 2s.
@@i_run_far1132 no it was a standard Speedgoat not the GTX. I ran 21 miles in the Pegasus Trail 2 yesterday and it is definitely a comfortable shoe, no issues with irritation or blister and it was a super hot day. The run was on moorland and the shoe was super unstable on the more technical trails but ran well on the flat, firmer stuff 👍
Still not convinced 😊
Nice mate I reckon the Evo Speedgoats better than both of them & The Evo mafate 2 has better midsole than SPG4 The SPG4 also in wide , how about comparison Torrent 2 vs Peregrine 10 ?😀
I agree the Evo Speedgoat is a nice shoe, I'm not a lover of the Mafate though! Yes the RMAT compound in the Mafate is great compound, I just find it a bit stiff and clumsy 🤔
You must've read my mind, we will be doing a comparison between the Peregrine 10 and the Torrent 2 👍
Thanks for watching the channel it's really appreciated 🙏
Hey Loyd, how do the Peregrine 10 compare to the Torrents?
They're very similar to be honest Stuart 👍
The Torrent is slightly deeper in the midsole but cushioning wish they feel pretty much the same. I'd say the Peregrine 10 is a bit more grippy 😊
Run 4 Adventure ta! Got new pair of Torrents to test on the Pendeen wastelands tomorrow👍
@@RacinRoddy awesome mate, hope you enjoy them 😊
Have a great run!
Run 4 Adventure So if you already have the Peregrine 10, there wouldn’t be much reason to check out the Torrent 2?
@@joshroberts7093 maybe not Josh, they are very similar and I'd still go for the Peregrine 10 👍😊
I like the underfoot feel and traction on the torant 2 much better
You definitely get a lot more ground feel and connection in the Torrents but I think a bit more rock protection in the midsole would be a good thing. Thanks for watching Michael 🙏😊
Speedgoats destroyed my front ankle tendons. The rubber tongue... ouch. My fault tho, because I ran 40 miles in the Speedgoat in ONE training run and sent them back. I'm used to Mafate 2's but they have over 400 miles on them. Just got the Torrent 2's and have a pretty technical 100k in 2 weeks. I'll have my Mafate's in the drop bag at mile 40 if I need to switch and mostly hike. That's MY PLAN. Torrent feels like a road shoe to me, but we'll see.
Good luck with your 100k Ryan 👍
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
I was a Hoka van for about 2 years but the durability was awful. Now running in the Saucony peregrine 10. Fantastic trail shoes
Hoka have definitely had a few models with durability issues! 😳
You won't have any durability issues with the Peregrine 10 it's bombproof 💥
@@Run4Adventure The 10's come in wide width??
Please do speak goat vs mafate 3😎😎😎
I'm not a lover of the Mafate so I don't think I'll be doing this one, sorry! Thanks for watching the channel and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
I find the torrent slower than the speed goat. Am I wrong?
I don't really notice a lot of difference in speed between them 🤔
The Speedgoats definitely return more energy from the midsole though. Maybe that's what you're feeling 👍
Thanks for watching the channel and taking the time to comment it's really appreciated Bradley 🙏
Hoka one one torrent 2
I feel like the torrent 2 looks nicer lol 😂
I saw a finger on giveaway 😂😂😂😂😂