SAUCONY PEREGRINE 10 vs HOKA ONE ONE TORRENT 2 | Best trail running shoes of 2020? | Run4Adventure
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- Опубліковано 11 сер 2020
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We are back today with an exciting comparison video and the reason it's exciting is because it is a head to head with my current two favourite trail running shoes. I've run a combined distance of around 400 miles in the Saucony Peregrine 10 and the Hoka One One Torrent 2, and have been pretty impressed with both models. There's quite a few similarities between the two shoes, but there's a couple of little features in one of them that personally makes it stand out. Check out the video to find out which one of these great trail running shoes comes out on top!
Really hope you enjoy the video and find it useful! We've left links below for both shoes if you want to find out any more information. It would also be great to hear your feedback, so if you've run in either Saucony Peregrine 10 or Hoka One One Torrent 2, get in the comments below and let us know how it performed.
Saucony Peregrine 10 (Mens) - www.saucony.com/en/peregrine-...
Saucony Peregrine 10 (Womens) - www.saucony.com/en/peregrine-...
Hoka One One Torrent 2 (Mens) - www.hokaoneone.eu/en/ie/men-t...
Hoka One One Torrent 2 (Womens) - www.hokaoneone.eu/en/ie/women...
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Thank you soo much for the comparison. This was super helpful and convinced me to buy one of the two. Please continue making these comparison vids, I really enjoy these and find it very insightful. Loving the passion!
No problem Humarno 👍
Really glad you enjoyed it and found it helpful and thanks for the kind words it's really appreciated 🙏
Bought a pair of Torrent 2s based on your previous comments (and other reviews) and absolutely love them! Such a comfy and light trail shoe.
Keep up the great content Loyd 👍
That's awesome Mike, that makes me very happy! 😊
Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment it's really appreciated 🙏
Another great vid and actually got me the Peregrine 10 because of your 200 mile review! Keep up on the great content!
That's great to here Swift Bug! 👍
Really glad you're enjoying your Peregrine 10's and thanks for the support 🙏
@@Run4Adventure Hi Loyd, would you recommend either of these shoes if your running split is 50/50 road & trail? If not do you have any recommendations on a running shoe that covers both well. I’ve only used Nike Pegasus trail shoes so far.....
@@deangreenwood2242
Hi Dean
If it's 50/50 trail and road in a single run then yes both these shoes can handle that. Obviously if one day you're doing a road run and then the next day you're doing a trail run then maybe not. If its the latter you probably need a raid running shoe and a trail shoe 😊
Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏
awesome vid loyd- just ordered some peregrine 10s, looking forward to trying them out!!
Thanks Sarah 👍
Really hope you like the Peregrine 10's. It takes a few short runs to bed them in because of the rock plate in the forefoot but once you've done that super comfortable and crazy grippy! 👌
Enjoy 😊
Great channel Loyd; I've just subscribed! You've convinced a long-term Salomon fan boy to try out a pair of Saucony Peregrine 10's for my next pair of trail shoes. I'm at the other end of the Bissoe trail from you in SW Cornwall so will pop into the PB Running Hayle shop when this latest lockdown ends. Keep up the great work! :)
That's awesome, thanks for the sub it's really appreciated 🙏
Yes definitely pop in the shop once we're out of this very frustrating Lockdown! Really hope you enjoy your Peregrine 10's, thanks for watching 👍
Been eagerly awaiting this one! I have to agree that the peregrine 10 is an awesome shoe! Gives you loads of confidence to attack any type of terrain, wet or dry. Recently got a pair of torrents, they are a great shoe but I would still favour the peregrine personally. 😀
Awesome Rob 👍
Thanks for watching mate and thanks for the comment 🙏
Keep enjoying your Peregrine 10's!
I did about 500km in my 10’s (first trail shoe purchase in feb). Since then I’ve bought and run a fair bit in the Lone Peak 4.5, Superior 4.5 and a pair of Terra Kiger 6. I put the Saucony on yesterday and said the same thing, “man these are good shoes!”
Your a ripper bloke Lloyd, you and the R4A team! Keep up the good work
That's great Jack! 👍
It is good 😊
Thanks so much for your kind words and your support of the channel 🙏
Happy running!
Hey Jack, How does it compare to the Lone Leak 4.5?
The peregrines are really dialled in, only done one run so far in them but I'm looking forward to having another bimble this evening. Super happy with them
Really glad you enjoyed your first outing in your Peregrine 10's 👍
Hopefully the first of many!
Thanks for watching mate 🙏
I have bought pair of Peregrine 10 according your great review and I have to be honest, Peregrine 10 is superb trail running shoe. Really comfortable, responsive, sticky outsole and when you would like to go really fast you can and they like it. I like them a lot, so 2 pairs already in house and enjoying running in them :)
That's great to hear, it's a brilliant allrounder! 👌
Really glad you're enjoying them and thanks for watching the channel and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
Thanks Loyd. I’m in the trail shoe market and have been eyeing the Torrent, but think I may go with the Peregrine if only for that rock plate!
No worries Gary 👍
The rock plate does work really well in the Peregrine 10's. I personally think Hoka should put a plate in the Torrent, it would make a big difference to the shoe 😊
Thanks for watching the channel and taking the time to comment it's really appreciated 🙏
Peregrine 10's are my current go-to. I've run in the 9's and 8's. The 10's are a refined evolution.
Totally agree Christine 👍
Thanks for watching the channel 🙏
I'll add my voice to the chorus of recommendations for the Peregrine. Bought a pair largely on the strength of the run4adventure review and couldn't be happier. Put around 300km on them so far and am yet to find a situation in which they don't excel. Still relatively early days but they are showing no signs of wear, and unlike Lloyd I don't take great care of my shoes. I've not run an ultra distance in them as yet, but really can't forsee any issues, so they'll definitely be my choice next time my legs are up to the task.
That's great Joe 👍
Really glad you're enjoying the Peregrine 10 as well. You're right, I haven't found a situation where it doesn't excel either 😊
Thanks for watching the channel and taking the time to leave a comment it's really appreciated 🙏
@@Run4Adventure Thanks again for the recommendation, and all the other content! Genuinely the best running channel out there.
@@joeorme7011 Thanks Joe that's very kind 🙏
Not run in Peregrines for years, current go to is the original Torrent, which I love, and I think when they bite the dust they'll be replaced by the Torrent 2. The Peregrine 10 do look and sound like a good shoe but I have a some would say silly rule of not buying shoes that weigh over 300g.
Keep up the quality content. 👍
I know what you mean about the weight Stuart 👍
I'm the same, I prefer to keep my shoes under 300g and I love the weight of the Torrents 😊
The Peregrine really doesn't run heavy though, it feels a lot lighter than 303g 👍
Thanks for watching the channel it's really appreciated 🙏
I have the Torrent 2. Basically everything I need in a trail shoe. Comfortable enough, since the dirt is a little more forgiving anyway. Never looking for more traction in the trails that I run.
The Torrent 2 is a really good trail shoe and it was really close between these two great trail shoes 👍
Thanks for watching the channel 🙏
i have both pairs as well... I prefer the peregrine 10. I can get a really good lock down in the shoe and overall its just a tank. The Torrent 2 is also really good but I find it holds a lot of mud in lugs and doesn't give me the same lock down as the peregrine 10. Overall both are really good shoes. Thanks for doing the video!
No worries Christian and thanks for watching the channel 🙏
Really glad you agree with what I said in the video and you're enjoying your Peregrine 10's 👍
Like you loyd I love my Peregrines ❤️ a very versatile shoe.
It's a great shoe 👌
Thanks for watching the channel 🙏
Interesting review Loyd ive been looking for a trail shoe to run the woodland paths near wear i live. Ive got the pegasus 36 which is very disappointing it's heavy and feels like a brick on my foot.
Thanks Keith 👍
Oh dear! I haven't run in the Pegasus 36 Trail but I had the same issue with the new Pegasus Trail 2, it's way to heavy!! 😔
Thanks for watching the channel it's really appreciated 🙏
I've been looking for a shoe to succeed the Nike Terra Kiger 4. The Kiger 4's were my go-to shoes for literally everything in the trails. The Kiger 5 and 6 don't quite work for me and chafe around the ankles. They work for the shorter stuff but I can't wear the newer versions on longer days.
I ordered a pair of Saucony Peregrine 10's based largely on Loyd's raving reviews. Unfortunately I broke my big toe a few days ago so I'll have to wait to start trying them out, but the Peregrine 10 felt super comfortable straight out of the box. The only little thing is that feels tight is along the big and small toe mounds. I'm pretty sure that's just a matter of getting the lacing right and getting some kilometers in them.
Can't wait to start giving them a try because I really need a decent replacement for my Kiger 4's.
Sorry to hear about the broken toe! I hope it's sorted and you're back running again 😊
Really glad that you're getting on with the Peregrine 10, most of the time there's a bit of a bedding in process when it comes to our new running shoe's 👍
Look after that toe and thanks for watching the channel 🙏
Kiger 4 was a great shoe. Worked really well for me.
Excellent review and very well timed!!! I have been continplating both of these shoes for about a month now. I was to leaning towards Hoka, but the lack of the rock plate concerned me a bit. This does seem to be the year of Saucony, but some other reviewers have dinged the Peregrine 10 ankle collar and tongue as being overly padded, not sure if that would an issue or not for me. How was your experience with either shoe as being overly warm? I think I am ready to pull the trigger on Peregrine 10 tho...😊
Hi Aaron
They're both really good shoe's and I'm sure you'd have no issues running in either 👍
I'm really not a lover of a lot of padding around the heel or in the tongue. If this was the case I wouldn't get on with the Peregrine at all! 😊 Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏
The peregrine 10 was really great on packed, slippery snow. On tarmac it wasn't very comfortable, but maybe that'll improve a bit after more runs in it
It's a super grippy trail shoe that's for sure. Obviously it's not got a deep, cushioned midsole so you don't want to run to much road in the shoe and It does take a bit of time to bed in so I'm sure it will be OK 👍
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's really appreciated 🙏
The Peregine 10 was awesome but sadly the newer models don't compare. What are you running in these days that compares to the 10? I'm finding it near impossible to find something similar. Thanks!
Loyd, great review. Would you recommend either for a long trail ultra? Cheers, keep up the great work.
Hi there
Yeap I sure would 👍
I'd wear either of them for an ultra and I'll actually be wearing the Peregrine 10's at the Arc of Attrition next year which is a 100 mile coast path race 😊
Hope this helps and thanks for watching and your support 🙏
@@Run4Adventure thanks mate, cheers, enjoy the weekend!!! Greetings from Brazil.
No worries anytime 👍
Will do, you to 😊
I’m still fairly new to trail running and due to lockdown am limited to local more gentle countryside trails atm (with road running to them). I got a pair of Salomon Wildcross for Christmas which I love (especially with all the mud & snow we’ve been experiencing!) but am looking at getting the Peregrine 10 for my spring/summer dryer ground/all rounder. The irony of lockdown is that I am now running more on path/tarmac to get to new local trails and aware this isn’t what my Wildcross were made for! I am also resting shin splint atm so aware having a pair of shoes with a secure arch support would be good (yes? #amateur)
Hi Kirsty
The Wildcross is definitely a soft ground trail running shoe and you definitely want to keep the road mileage to a minimum! I'd say the Peregrine 10 is definitely a better allrounder and can be run all year road. I dare say running on the road in Wildcross probably hasn't helped your shins! Not a lot of protection from the high impact, very repetitive road running environment. I'd always recommend going to a good running specialist and trying lots of trail running shoes on because every shoe is so different 😊
Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏
@@Run4Adventure Thanks ever so much Loyd this is super helpful!!!
@@Run4Adventure Just wish I could try a few on in the shop atm! Might be a long time before that can happen though... :(
I know it's very frustrating, that's for sure! Good luck with finding the right shoe and thanks for watching 🤞🙏
Great comparison review. I was on the verge of getting the Salomon Sense Ride 2 because it was on sale at a crazy price and also because it looks like a shoe that can handle transitioning from road to trails really well. What’s your impression about the Sense Ride series vs the Peregrine for going from asphalt to trail & back? Thanks
I think both shoe transition well between road and trail but the grip is a lot better on the Peregrine 10 and the Sense Ride 2 had some durability issues 🤔
Where as the Peregrine 10 is bombproof! 😊
Hope this helps and thanks for watching 🙏
Run 4 Adventure Yes that helps a lot. I’m glad you brought up the durability factor. I have no problem paying more for something that will last longer.
Oh yes this Peregrine 10 ist really good, I had Peregrine 2 - 6, the next versions were not as good, this one is the best. May be not for runners who prefer the Hoka cushion (Torrent is different).
Thanks for watching the channel and thanks for the comment 🙏
Great review , If you were to make a call on which has the roomiest toe box which one would it be ?
Thanks Chris that's appreciated 👍
I'd say they are actually very similar on width so it tricky to say? If I had to pick it's probably the Torrent 2 but nothing in it really 😊
Hope this helps, thanks for watching 🙏
Dear Lyod, please review the Xodus 10.. Thanks..
Hi there
I've been asked this a few times by viewers so I'll see what I can do 👍
Thanks for watching the channel 🙏
Hey cool.. We're both 9.5s
I may have gone with the Peregrine but I found a pair of Solomon Wildcross for just over $100(USD).
That's cool Stephen, the Wildcross is a good shoe and that's a great price 👍
you've turned my head with the peregrine 10 reviews! respect the clear reasons. all makes sense. I clicked subscribe 👍
new to trail running and looking for my first pair.
Im flat footed, narrow heeled and love room to splay my toes whilst running. I had a surgically repaired R achilles tendon complete rupture couple of years ago.
I currently road run 70km/week in ASICS Kayanos 26
I LOVE the idea of a trail responsive shoe to exhilarate and switch up from the boring road. (God help my knees though...)
Arcteryx Norvan LD Vs Saucony Peregrine 10
(both are at similar price point)
Which one would you recommend for me? Or others you think I should look at?
thanks!
Awesome, thanks for the sub! 🙏
Getting off the road and on the trails will help your knees! Less repetition, softer ground so way more forgiving than running on tarmac 👍
Have you ever thought about trying a different road shoe? The Kayanos are heavy shoes and have a pretty big heel off set, it's quite a clunky shoe 😊
I'd definitely go for the Peregrine 10's, it's one of the best trail shoes I've ever run in! Comfortable, responsive and super grippy 😊
Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏
@@Run4Adventure
It does. thank you - I'm giving the peregrine 10s a try.
went with Kayanos because of their reputation for stability to ease the repetitive over-pronation for a hard road surface. (less important for trail)
Yes willing to try road alternatives! 😃
Which road trainers would you recommend as alternatives for me to test? which give a little stability and cushioning for when pounding the road, and fun to run with as well 👍
I'm curious what your thoughts are on the ISO upper and why they killed it. I had a quick scan through your video list and don't see anything obvious where you might talk about it. Do you have a video where you discuss it? I've had two pairs of Peregrine ISOs and like them... but my little toe has blown out of both uppers within 350km.
There is a bit of content on the ISO fit upper on the channel. I personally think it had a very negative impact on the brand when they started using the ISO fit upper. Before this year where Saucony have made a massive come back they where really struggling as a brand. The reason they were struggling was because they had put the ISO fit upper on pretty much every shoe in their range! So to round it up, I really didn't like it so I'm happy they've got rid of it 👍
I am currently running in Speedgoat 3 and the Speedgoat EVO. I was thinking about trying the Peregrine or the Terra Kiger 6 (I tried the Wildhorse but it was an ankle roller with that heel). Would you use the Peregrine for a 20k to 25k trail run? Is there enough cushion in the shoe for that? I am 6 foot and 183 pounds (sorry for American measurement system), so I am not the smallest of runners. Also I am 47. At that age you can imagine cushion can be important to me. Thanks.
Hi Chris
I'd definitely use the Peregrine 10 for that sort of distance no problem 👍
If you choosing between the Peregrine and the Kiger I'd recommend the Peregrine, it has a much better level of grip 👍
The rubber on the Nike Trail shoes is terrible in the wet and you are so right about the roll on the Wildhorse 😳 Obviously the Peregrine isn't going to give you Speedgoat cushioning!
Hooe this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏
I think Saucony having sibling like Merrell, makes a very big difference.
I do have a question,
I have the peregrine 10’s and the Salomon ultra pro’s.
The ultra pro’s are advertised and accepted in the ultra community as a long distance shoe and the P-10’s haven’t really been considered (by most) for that distance.
The P-10’s have a considerable more amount of plushness compared to the UP’s.
Would love to hear your opinion on that.
Hi Joshua
You're right but I think a lot of it is because of the name of the Salomon shoe and Salomon advertise the shoe for that distance. I personally think the Peregrine 10's are a much better shoe for distance! I'm not a fan of the Ultra Pro, I think the upper us uncomfortable and the midsole is to firm! 😕
Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel it's appreciated 🙏
Also... how have you found the standard insole in the 10 when running downhill with wet feet? The insole in the ISO just slides on the midsole and stacks up in the toe box under your feet... I had to get different insoles to stop it... I felt like that was a big oversight in a trail shoe for which the odds are extremely high you will be running downhill with wet feet.
No issue at all with the insoles in the Peregrine 10's 👍
No issues with the shoe at all if I'm honest 😊
If you like the Peregrine 10 you should try out Saucony Freedom 3. I have done more than 800k in this shoe (two sets) and it is just as good to run in as my Peregrine 10. One for asphalt and one for trails.
I've actually been looking at the new Freedom, I like the sound of the full PWRRUN pb midsole 👌
Always good to hear from another Peregrine fan. Thanks for watching Mikkel it's really appreciated 🙏
Been running in the torrent 2 and they've been great but I just scored the peregrine 10 at Marshall's for $40.
$40 for a pair of Peregrine 10's!! 😲
That's a total bargain Jordan, well done you 👌
Thanks for watching the channel and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
400 miles ! They look brand new !
The Peregrine 10 is bombproof! 💥
Thanks for watching the channel it's really appreciated 🙏
What would you recommend for a wider toebox fit than peregrine 10?
It is slightly rubbing my pinky toes running down hill.
Hi Lim
Saucony do actually offer the Peregrine 10 in a width fit 👍
The brand Topo have a really roomy toe box, their Mountain Racer is a good trail shoe. Also Altra again offer a nice wide toe box but their shoes do all run off a zero drop in the heel 👍
Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel it's really appreciated 🙏
Great and useful review as always! Would you recommend the Peregrine 10 for trail distances up to a marathon for a tall guy like me (190cm and 86kg) or go for the Xodus 10 instead? Also I come from HOKA ATR 5. TIA Cheers!
Hi Boris
I'm sure you'd be fine in the Peregrine 10 but if you feel you like a deeper midsole more like your ATR the Xodus would definitely give you that 👍
Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏
@@Run4Adventure went with the Peregrine in that crazy neon colorway too. 😄 Just had my first run today and definitely feel like I have more control on my usual trails which have quite a lot of roots and rocks. Grip is so sticky! Not missing the extra cushioning of Hoka so far. The only downside is that I got a few blisters on my heels. I hope it's the sock, otherwise I'm going to be disappointed. You can never know these things until you try them. Fingers crossed. Thank you again for great content and fun videos!
@@LooptroopRocker
It's a great colour way Boris! Maybe it's just because it's your first run and the shoe needs to bed in 🤔
Maybe cover your heels with tape for a few runs so you don't make the blisters worse 👍
Hope it settles down!
@@Run4Adventure thanks for the advice!
Have you tried the Peregrine 10 ST or are the standard 10s enough for British winters?
I haven't tried it yet Lee but to be honest the grip on the Peregrine is so good I'm not sure you need it 👍
Thanks for watching the channel it's really appreciated 🙏
Screw and drain guide holes in the Saucony sole! Great if you might be running on ice or boggy stuff. Why didn't you mention that? It adds huge versatility.
I know the shoe has these feature but to be honest I'm not convinced by them 🤔 Drilling through the sole of your shoe! Putting spikes in the sole I don't think it would work? I wouldn't recommend anyone to do that so I didn't mention it 👍
What if something sharp went through the holes you've drilled and in to your foot! Also when it comes to putting spikes in the rubber I think a proper set of ice spikes would work a lot better 😊
You're right though maybe I should of mentioned it 👍
Thanks for watching the channel and taking the time to comment 🙏
I saw some hex bolts in a pair, so there is no pointy end like a self tapping screw. Saucony should probably put some guidance in the box though
@@kierenkd
They definitely should 👍
nice
Thanks for watching the channel it's really appreciated 🙏
Late to bid but I wear a wide in new balance so I should get a wide for peregrine also?
If you normally wear a width fit in NB I'd go for the same in the Peregrine if you can find them 👍
Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏
Which shoe would you use for more kms? Just got a Torrent 2 recently and love it, in the swiss forests. But i was wondering if the peregrine 10/11 would run for longer than the Torrent 2. Any toughts on that? Great channel! Keep on going :). Cheers Nik
Hi Nik
Yeap they're both good shoes that's for sure. I would personally use the Peregrine 10's or 11's for distance. I think having the added benefits of a rock plate under your forefoot in the Peregrine makes it a more comfortable shoe over distance 👍
Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel, I'm glad you're enjoying it 🙏
@@Run4Adventure thank you! Will certainly look into it for this autumn. Cheers
No worries anytime 👍😊
I'm looking to replace my Salomon Sense Ride 2's (not a fan of v3 of these) and I'm curious if you think the Peregrine has enough stack height/cushion for ultra's up to 50 miles?
Hi Christopher
The Peregrine isn't a deeply cushioned shoe but it very comfortable and I'm sure you'd be fine for 50 miles, especially if you're use to running in the Ride 2 👍
I'm going to be using the Peregrine 10's in the Arc of Attrition next year and I'm sure it'll be fine 😊
Great, thanks
No worries anytime 👍
Would the goretex peregrine 10 version be better or is there not much difference?
I'm not a fan of Gortex running shoes Mike. You loose a lot of breathability and if water gets in the shoe it can't get out 😔
I'd personally go for the standard shoe. Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel it's really appreciated 🙏
Do you have a Saucony Peregrine comparison with Brooks Cascadia 15
Unfortunately not but thanks for watching 🙏
I’m looking for a pair of shoes for running in cold, snow, sleet and rainy weather. Would you recommend any of these or any other ones?
I think the Peregrine 10 would deal with most conditions underfoot! 👍
Thanks for watching the channel it's really appreciated 🙏
Thanks for the info. I’ll be getting a pair soon.
@@clos122 No worries anytime 👍
I bought the torrent 2 for my partner she got narrow feet. Does the peregrine 10 offers enough mid n forefoot room for my wide feet?
Hi Ruel
I'd say the Peregrine 10 has a bit more width in the toe than the Torrent but it's still quite narrow at the midfoot, I wouldn't say the Peregrine is a wide shoe 😕
Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel it's really appreciated 🙏
I have used 3 pairs of torrents 1&2. Never tried the pereqrine. May need to try it. Is it ok for marathon and 50k trail?
It would be fine for that distance Paul 👍 I'm going to be using it in the Arc of Attrition next year 😊
Thanks for watching and supporting the channel 🙏
What shoes would you suggest for 80km? Im a little confused. Great channel!!
@@empowhers
Hi Marco
That's a tricky question to answer! Running shoes are such a personally thing especially when you're running a long way 👍
It also depends on what time of year, what type of terrain the 80k is over and what you usually wear running shoe wise?
Really glad you're enjoying the channel and thanks for watching 🙏
How is the perigine 10 on technical rocky descents?
The Peregrine 10 it great on rocky descents especially if they're wet! 👍
The level of grip is brilliant and the rock plate in the forefoot really helps in rocky environments 😊
Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏
Hi, which would you say was the wider of the two? Great vid...
I would say they are very similar when it comes to width! 🤔
Maybe the Peregrine 10's are just slightly wider 👍
Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel it's really appreciated 🙏
Run 4 Adventure cool, thanks .... just seen they come
In a bright orange colour now...!
@@movemorenowjames yes they do! 😎
I've just got a pair in the bright colour way 👍
Run 4 Adventure last one; would you say they just or more “cushioned “ as the torrent ? I know they are responsive and nice ground feel but just wanted to know about the energy return ...! Thanks... that’s it.
@@movemorenowjames
The cushioning is very similar on both shoes but I find the Peregrine 10 feels more comfortable 👍
Good day Mr Purvis. May i suggest you try the Salomon Sense 4 pro ? Fast, light, low to the ground but still protective enough. I absolutely love them. I've got some Peregrine ( prefer the Xodus even if they're heavier ) and had some Torrent 1 ( the same inefficient midsole ) and in my mind the Salomon are so so so much better while being in the same category. I was a bit disappointed with the Sense ride 3 but Sense pro 4 are my trail shoe of the year by a long way
Good evening If Only 😊
Yeap the Pro 4 looks like the best version of the shoe since the original Sense Pro's 👍
I loved the original Sense Pro's, I had 4 x pairs it was so good!
I've actually just got a pair of their new'ish Wildcross. I've done a couple of runs in it and it feels pretty good, a really nice fitting shoe 👍
Not sure I'll get the Pro 4's but I'll keep it in mind 😊
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Can anyone find an online store in the UK that sells the wide version of the Peregrine 10?
I haven't seen anyone in the UK selling them unfortunately? I'm not sure they are even available to UK retailers? 😕
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Saucony rubber is one of the best 👌
It sure is Andrew! It's up there with the best of them 👍
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If you look at the bottom of the Peregrines there is marks on some of the treads. I think you can drill them and fit spikes for ice. You can do that on another model of Saucony.
Is the weight due to the rock plate? Why the Hoka are lighter
Yes you can put in spikes or drill straight through for drainage holes.
I think it is the plate that adds weight and to be honest I think its worth it because the plate works so well 😊
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loyd. Nice vid.thanks.why not make the rock plate a carbon or nylon performance plate
Thanks Bo really glad you enjoyed it 👍 I'm not sure a performance plate would work in a trail shoe 🤔
Theirs some many carbon latest flying around at the moment so I wouldn't be surprised if we saw it 😉
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Saucony over everything! Road and trail, they are the masters! Kinda took this as a joke as Hoka suck 😂
To be fair Sam Saucony are smashing it now but a couple of years ago their shoe where pretty bad! 😊
Freedom ISO, Guide ISO, Ride ISO! Not great shoes 👎
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@@Run4Adventure to be honest with you, it is a bit biased as I have ever only used saucony shoes. Started with the omni iso 2's, and at the time I loved them! However, I went to the hurricane 22's when they were released, and yes you are right about the ISO fit! Absolutely woeful compared to the new and improved form fit! Along with the pwrrun!!
@@therunningviking8553 Totally agree Sam 👍
@@Run4Adventure agreed , loved the first few peregrines then had a pair where the grip split underneath as I was traversing a very technical ridge ..... ( where the strips were showing the rock plate ).. HATED them for that ... Looks like they have dumped that design and gone back to previous pattern with much smaller holes showing the rock plate. Will consider going back now 🙂
I hated the Peregrine. Should I waste my time with the Torrent 2?
That's a shame you didn't get on with the Peregrine Jim 😔
What was it you didn't like?
@@Run4Adventure It was heavy and stiff and aggravated my tendonitis. I usually love Saucony shoes, but these didn't work for me.
@Run4Adventure I have the Peregrine 10 ST and the outsole is very slipy in mud, on wet rock, even wet asphalt. Huge dissapointment!
The Standard Peregrine 10 is a much better shoe unfortunately 😕
I hear this a lot about the ST version of the shoe! A lot of runners say its not that grippy on wet rock but I've not heard anyone say it doesn't grip well in mud? I think it must be down to the depth of the lug because it's the same PWRTRAC rubber on the ST that's on the standard shoe and the standard Peregrine is so grippy, especially on wet tarmac or rock. I really don't know why Saucony made the ST version it makes no sense when the grip is so good on the standard shoe? Sorry you've been let down by the shoe, I'd go for the standard Peregrine next time 👍
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@@Run4Adventure Hi! Not sure about PWRTRAC - I felt a slight slip on dry terrain, quite okay on the wet trails, but very slippy in realy deep mud. Unfortunately, the sole slid also on wet asphalt and on wet stone/pavement. I am looking for a shoe to feel confident in a slippery environment. Any suggestions?
I need good grip in muddy conditions and also cushion because of foot pain issues (so no Torrent 2)... Speedcross 5 have stability problems (I´ve heard of sprained ankles), la Sportiva mutant are too stiff for me, Akasha was quite good but it is more an alpine-ultra terrain shoe.
Thank you!
I wouldn't judge the grip of PWRTRAC by the ST Peregrine the standard shoe is so much better and it's still good in the mud! I've run in 100's of pairs of trail shoes over the years and for alround grip it's one of the best 👍
There really is no comparison between the two shoes when it comes to grip. I run with a group of trail runners on a Tuesday night on the coast paths of Cornwall. Very technical terrain, muddy, rocky, Hilly conditions and a lot of the group are training for the Arc of Attrition, a 100 mile coast path race in winter and we all wear the standard Peregrine 10! 👌
@@Run4Adventure Thanks, have you tried them on snow/ice?
@@cubadacub I'm based in Cornwall, England so unfortunately not, we don't get a lot of snow and ice here 😊