From My Studio: Rice Paper Wet Mounting and Finishing
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- Опубліковано 16 жов 2024
- Join me in my studio to demonstrate the detailed final steps of preparing my paintings prior to framing. The delicate rice paper that I paint on is too thin and wrinkled to be framed as it is. The mounting process adds a thicker sheet to the thin painting, plus smooths the painting, and deepens the ink colors. After the mounting, the personalized chinese chop is added, and the painting signed. Hope you enjoy.
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A very nice and clear video and very informative!
thank you so much!
Thank you so much for this demonstration. I have been searching UA-cam to find someone I could understand with a simple process. When I say simple I understand the importance of moving quickly. However some have demonstrated a much more complicated process than yours.
I'm so glad, Vicki. This is the method I learned from my sumi-e teachers 25 years ago - it is tried and true!
Thank you so much for sharing your technique! It's not easy to find such a thorough tutorial. Your paintings are stunning!
Thank you, Yolanda!
So easy, now I can mount my monoprints. Beautiful work.
I'm so glad you found it helpful, Carol
Excellent instructional video! Thank you so much for sharing your expertise.
You are so welcome, Angela!
What a wonderfully informative video. Thank you so much for sharing your process with us. I'll be watching more videos of yours. I'm fascinated with this process and your beautiful artwork.
Thank you, you are so kind!
Karen, you are a master of mounting rice paper! Thanks for sharing the video.
Thank you, Kay - I still miss the mountains! Hopefully I can visit you sometime this year again...
Best mounting demo ever. You make it look so easy!
Susan, thank you my dear! I miss you and hope we can see each other again soon.
Thank you so much for sharing your amazing skills. I'm so happy to have found you and look forward to my subscription and exploring your channel. I just started painting on Masa and rice paper and am going to give batik a go. I love your work and your style.
Thank you, Kandi, for your sweet words. Good luck in all your endeavors, explore and have fun!
Beautiful painting great explanation
Your work is so beautiful. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you so very much, Michele!
Thank you. I've never seen a demo on this stage of sumi-e, the actual mounting and readying for framing.
Thank you!
This is such a beautiful demo. Thanks so much for sharing 🙏
Thank you so much!
Beautiful work thank you for share the process
thank you so much!
Love the tutorial and your work.
Thanks, Tracy, I use a natural wheat wallpaper paste. You can google how to make it. My source for the paste has changed over the years. I stock piled it a couple of years ago and haven't found a new source for it yet other than making it yourself.
@@karenkurkajensen Thank you so much for your fast reply. Roman Universal Wheat Dry Mix is the product I picked up yesterday and am anxious to try. 🙂 Fingers Crossed.
@@tracyl.gallant281 Tracy, that looks like it will work. The only thing I get concerned about is strange additives to any paste. But from what I could tell, this looks okay. Good luck!
@@karenkurkajensen, this method and your fabulous tutorial has been life changing! I've been printing since 1996 and have tried many "dry" methods with minimal success. Thank you, Thank you! 😀
Sumi-e is a Japanese art form using rice paper and black sumi ink.
masa paper seems to be japanese as well
Your work if just beautiful! Thank you for sharing you process.
Thank you!
Hi Karen. I watched your video again to refresh my memory as I am getting ready to mount my first rice paper batik. I have masa paper to use for backing but I wondered if anyone ever mounted rice paper on nice thick watercolor paper for more sturdiness? Is that ever done, or is it more traditional or better to use only Masa or another rice paper to mount Rice paper work on Masa?
I really don't know, Kandi. My question is whether it (watercolor paper) would stretch well along with rice paper? If you try it, let me know what your results are, okay?
@@karenkurkajensen Hi Karen. I fear my results were not that great and my Fabriano Hot Press paper started to buckle rather quickly, so I flipped the piece over and sprayed water on the back of the paper and covered it with heavy flat items like colored pencil boxes with rocks on top. Days later it is still a bit damp but clearly a little more warped than I would prefer. I think next time I will try the Masa and do a smaller piece. I neglected also to think about shipping fees if ever sold, framing issues, and the room needed on a wall to hang such a large piece. Sometimes smaller is better. Thanks so much for helping me and taking the time to respond. That's a true teacher. I have been blessed with the best teachers my whole life. I'm grateful to you.
@@Kandicookheller so we learn, yes? If we don't try or experiment with new ideas and ways of doing things, we don't deepen our lives with understanding.
hi I am a calligrapher and i use lighetr paper, simply because i cannot access affordably more expensive and higher quality paper. I would like to find out about mounting on plastic. Using acid free PVA glue, would the plastic mounting be considered archival? Would there be any issues mouting on plastic? Also, are all glues acid free. For example if i use a product such as elmers paper glue would that be considered archival. Also you stated that you use wheat paste. What is it made from and is there a recipe? Also I saw a chinese painting instructor using an adhesive backed by silicone what would be the difference between what he is using and my ideas above? Thank you for the video and I know these are a lot of question but f you can provide answers they will be appreciated.
Romel, nice to hear from you. I'm sorry to say I have no experience in any other mounting process than the one in my video. It's the tried and true method that has been used for generations. I know about the silicone mounting but only through word of mouth, I've never tried it. So I'm sorry but it doesn't seem I can help you on this one...
@@karenkurkajensen Thanks for taking the time to respond. I am trying to figure out a way to see if I can do the mounting with the materials i have on hand. Any instruction or directions for making the paste and is the wheat paste archival. i see some people use rice paste- is that archival?
@@romelmadrayart I think you can google wheat paste for mounting. I know my teacher, Susan Frame, makes her own and yes, it's archival. I believe the rice paste is also... good luck!
Gracias por compartir el proceso. 😊
Thanks. I needed this.
Glad to help!
When you wet the painting with paste to the table, what prevents it from tearing when you lift it off with the masa paper?
And what is the table surface material made of that you’re placing the rice paper onto?
James, my husband made me my painting table. He did a superb job, sanding the wood surface until it was smooth, then he laid down layer after layer of clear varnish, smoothing and sanding each layer carefully until it was like glass! I no longer have that table but now use a sheet of plexi.
I just did a watercolor batik workshop. Which side of the masa paper attaches to the painting (it has a shiny and dry/rough) side.
And what is the vertical mounting board made of that you glue the painting/masa paper?
Hi James, that must have been a great workshop! In answer to your questions - use the rough side of the mounting masa paper, think of it as grabbing the painting better and I put my mounted paintings on plywood boards.
Beautiful painting! Your demonstration was so helpful. I was taught in a class to use a flour and water mixture. Is this any type of wallpaper paste? A recent painting I did with rice paper on a canvas turned out nice but then wrinkled afterward. I will try your technique.
Thank you so much!
you are welcome, Sheri!
Fascinating, thank you
thanks, Chris!
I just love this technique and have been experimenting. I just ran into something that hasnt ever happened. As i began to paint on the paste, it started to pill up (like a sweater). I couldnt get them all up before adding the masa paper. I cant think of anything i did differently as this was my 5th piece. Very weird, have you found that happen before?
Never, Patti, but I've certainly had other things happen. I once used a new paste and it never completely dissolved in the water , I tried again and same outcome so I had to throw it all away. Do you know if it completely dissolved for you? Is it the same paste you've used before? The only other thing I can think of besides a bad batch of paste is the temp and humidity in your studio??
Same paste for 4 pieces today, although I did add more warm water to dilute it more for this last one (that pilled) but I waited until it wasn't warm... In fact because our kitchen is chilly... It may have been cool. I wondered if maybe it was the side of the rice paper (if that could make a difference). I experiment on both sides to paint on but haven't noticed a difference. I'm doing Gyotaku.
@@pattifielding4829the side of the rice paper shouldn't matter. What kind of paper are you using just for reference? Maybe trying to mount it in your chilly kitchen? Is this where you've mounted the others that worked well?
@@karenkurkajensen been using inexpensive roll from Hobby Lobby but also done on kozo rice paper and to be honest I had both rolls going at once and now wonder if it's the paper. I'll have to do a test on papers as now I don't know which paper was used on each art work... Ugh ugh... Grrrr. Gotta love learning curves... SAID NO ONE!!! all 5 pieces were done this morning so kitchen chilly couldn't effect just one. Now will all of my artwork left to wet mount, I don't know which was on which paper. Maybe I will inspect with a magnifying glass
@@pattifielding4829hahaha! everyone who is worth their 'salt' goes through difficulties! It makes us better artists in the struggle as we figure things out and better people as we learn to accept and walk through failures. I get you...
Very well done Karen!, May I ask what brand of wallpaper paste do you use and where do you get the masa paper? Thanks! Kirk
Kirk, I use an all-natural wheat wallpaper paste from Natural Supply Co online. My mounting paper is masa paper and you can get it from almost any good art supply company. Let me know if you have any problems locating these materials.
@@karenkurkajensen Thank you!- I am thinking this will do well for mounting my Gyotaku (japanese fish printing), which naturally wrinkles terribly. I'm thinking masa roll instead of sheets. thanks again! kirk
@@wm.kirksuedmeyer1170 Yes, it will be great for Gyotaku - Hiromi Paper Co sells rolls of Masa...
@@karenkurkajensen ....hmmmm not finding the wallpaper paste on natural supply co ..... Kirk
@@wm.kirksuedmeyer1170 Kirk, so sorry - it's Natural Craft Supply
Hi I just came across this and loved your technique ! I was wondering if this would work for calligraphy that’s on rice paper? I bought a piece of china and no where around me does wet mounting.
I believe it would just the same for calligraphy on rice paper as an ink and watercolor sumi-e painting.
@@karenkurkajensen thank you so much! Do you have the recipe for the homemade paste you use anywhere? Or know of a good one I could buy?
@@madixiaoyao I do not but google my teacher, Susan Frame, and I think she has the formula/recipe somewhere on her site or blog...
COME BACK to UA-cam! ❤
Hahaha! Appreciate you, Patty... I might try!! I've had a few obstacles these last few years.
@@karenkurkajensen ahhh. Got it. Well just know that you are sooo much more a master than most and we sure do appreciate your expertise! ❤️
@@Pattymelt415 hardly a master, Patty but thank you most kindly!
Just the tutorial I was looking for! Thank you, Karen. Can you share the brand of rice paper you use, for I am not sure if that (xuan?) I have is ideal.
I generally use a Red Star Jen Pi but it's becoming so expensive that I've also been using "Best Shuen" or a good one-ply shuen, also xuan, from Awesome Art Supply and OAS (Oriental Arts Supply) online
@@karenkurkajensen Bless you! I will definitely try these then.
Hey thanks for this video really interesting. I’m just getting into this method using a wheat paste. Can I ask do you use just a ply board? When I tried this the tannins in the wood leaked and stained the paper. Thanks
I use a plywood board to paste the mounted painting to, that said I use a 1/2"-3/8" plywood and its a smooth finished 'SurePly" underlayment plywood. The other thing you can try it to use masking tape (original version) to tape over your knots in the board to reduce the tannin stains...
Karen Kurka Jensen thanks so much I’ve been watching videos on how to make a traditional kari Bari but that seems too much effort 😂
Hello, thank you for this video. Are there any western alternatives for the backing paper? Why Masa paper for the backing? Just wondering cause Masa is currently unavailable in my country but would still like to have archival and a beautiful outcome :)
Oie, I get my masa paper from Hiromi Paper Inc - store.hiromipaper.com/pages/online-store. Please reach out to them, they may have the answer for you...
Thx. Very helpful. Can you share some ideas for framing the rice paper art please.
Thank you, MS. I frame my work simply with a black frame and white matting. Because I sell my work in several galleries and have exhibitions each year, I must have a consistent 'look' to my work when it shows together. And because I frame many pieces each year, I use a nice wood frame that is still not too expensive. This may not translate to singular framing...
@@karenkurkajensen Appreciated. Thx
Beautiful. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you Bri
What is the name of the thicker rice paper you use for backing?
Sophia, it's masa paper. You can find it in many places online.
thank you!!! I'm going to try...
Thank you.
Hi Karen! This is a fascinating process! Thank you for sharing! You mention you use inks? But then say you let the watercolors dry for days. Do you use both inks and watercolors - and mix them? Are the inks acrylic?
Vonalda, these are techniques in the art form of sumi-e. So I use sumi-e ink with watercolors on very thin rice paper to create my works. Sumi-e ink is water-soluble.
Since you work in water colours, I'm wondering why they don't run when you add the wet wheat paste.
June, the watercolors are completely dry, in fact, I usually let them dry for a few weeks before I mount so that they are set.
@@karenkurkajensen Thank you very much, and thanks for taking the time to reply. I really enjoyed and appreciated this fine video.
Where did you get the brushes from?
Blue Heron Arts and Awesome Art Supply both carry mounting brushes
Also just found them here - www.sumiestore.com/store/c26/Mounting.html
@Angelacdef1404 and I can also be found @Caballero_Fields. Painting with ink is a recent experience for me and I am loving it! your video will definitely improve my work.