@@captainglitterfingers6213 And the identical but more expensive Segway E-bike, owned by the same Chinese company and re-branded. )(Eric of Luna Cycles is a hoot !)
I don’t understand why Tesla does not buy a company like Zero and rebrand it Tesla Zero and produce superior electric motors and battery packs for their motorcycles and just sell and distribute from the same web site and distribution centers that they use for their cars. They could do the same thing with Electric Bicycles.
@@AV8R_1 It is innovation to put more resources into the Zero team and to give them access to superior electric motors and battery packs from Tesla and to give them an entirely new distribution channel to sell the Zero motorcycle products. Besides, when Tesla acquires existing companies like Solar City and Maxwell Technology, they do so to speed up innovation, not merely to add the Tela name to it.
Elon doesn't like a motorcycle he or someone he knows got hurt real bad on a motorcycles and if tesla was going to make a motorcycles it would be 10 time better then this and it would cheaper
Rationalizing $8,500+ for an electric motorcycle that has less than 100mile range is quite stupid. Do I want one, hell yeah, but at that price, I can get a lot of motorcycle.
@@emmcey They have come down in price a little bit, but we're still in the early adoption phase and it still like 6 years off until we see any real drop in price. It's like when HD TVs first came out and it took them years to drop in price, but now you can get a boss TV on the cheap. Also with the upcoming breakthroughs in Battery tech(Solid State Batteries) and the shift away from Lithium, that will defiantly start to drop prices on electric vehicles.
@#1 TRACKRECORD what-a-JOKE The EV bikes they got as a fleet purchase are cheaper to buy, cheaper to maintain, and cheaper to run than their Harleys, and have gotten great praise from their community. Would you rather their taxpayers pay more for less?
If it cost 5k I would consider buying it. Especially since it will be a perfect starter bike, but I just don't have the budget to drop $8k on a toy. A used cbr300 will do just fine with me.
New tech vs old tech. There isn't anything innovate or new about the 400 which is produced by a Motorsport giant. Zero is new to the game in comparison to red, green and blue. With zero you're still paying for R&D on new tech, R&D for the rainbow teams has been covered for 20 years and they're just taking in profit. The people that buy Zeros bikes now will be paving the way for the lower cost "ninja 400" model that comes out years from now.
I doubt it. All the big makers could make this bike for $5-7K. But they aren't...because they are still trying to figure out how to make money instead of just giving people what they want.
Skrill - SWEET looking bike, cool concept. I would LOVE one, $8k is high, true, but for me it’s not a deal breaker. What is a dealbreaker are No larger battery options to increase the range and No ability to swap out the batteries, so no way to charge one or two others while you play, then return to base to swap batteries and repeat. This is a ride 40 miles and... and... and... well that’s it.
Still waiting on an e-bike with a swappable battery pack. If manufacturers standardized a system, then there could be battery exchange "stations" like the ones for propane tanks.
I'm pretty sure this is the only model from zero that has a swappable battery! I only bought one a couple years ago and thought I read that on their site.
@@rodrick722 Thanks for the reply. I know of a couple of bike models with swappable batteries. I guess what I really meant was e-bike companies establishing an industry standard for swappable batteries. Enjoy your bike!
As much as I love the idea of this bike, I just can't bring myself to ride on the road. I ride MTB bikes, strictly off-road (I know 5 people who have been hit by cars on bicycles, one dead). If I were a road rider, I'd certainly buy one.
I want to get into a bike but I'm in the same boat as you, so many distracted drivers and no respect for motorcycles at least in South Florida, guess I'll stick with MTB.
Revolt intellicorp has launched electric bikes in India. The base model RV300 is priced at $1553, and the amount is to be deposited in 37 installments of around $42 each. Just pay $42 and take your bike, no hidden costs and nothing. The bike can run approx 156km in full charge in economy mode (speed restricted to 45km/hr), and 80km in Nitro mode (speed locked to 85km/hr). Battery takes just 4.5hrs to charge from 0 to 100%. Even comes with a speaker which can produce 3 types of different superb bike sounds. The best thing is, they're providing ZERO cost of running for 3 years, anything from tyre replacement to battery replacement will be done free cost. And there is also a feature of battery swapping, where the user can simply swap the battery from the nearest Revolt bike store, while on ride, when he is unable to charge the battery. That too at zero price. I wish brands could enter the market with same strategy, so that more people could afford it and our environment could be saved.
@@user-uz4gh7sm9l hope the batteries live out the 8yrs warranty coz some people are hardcore bikers and longrides(which fuel based bikes takes the throne) are really awesome.
@@maddiel6897 well, 8 years is a long period. If it fails during that time or malfunctions, the company will be providing free replacement. So, it's not something to worry about.
Michael considering the low range of travel and the fact that the life expectancy for these bikes is less than half of a gas powered bike, I would not considering these affordable at all. They look like a blast to ride but until they have longer ranges, reasonable charge times, and longer life expectancy I don’t think the price can be justified for the average consumer.
@@Peter-ff1tp the most affordable motorcycle is a used one. You dont go for affordability if you plan on paying sticker price. You can buy all of those gas bikes for a fraction of their cost used, and used does not equal abused. You couldnt even find a zero on the used marketplace, and even if you could batteries do not age well. Electric looks great initially but is wholly impractical for most riders, the infrastructure or the technology is just not there yet
@@Peter-ff1tp The original comment was about the bike being affordable. None of the bikes you listed are considered affordable to most people unless you go to the used market, which is why I mentioned it. The price of a used bike is relevant here because the zero has a major disadvantage in its availability and battery degradation
I've ridden an FX every day for nearly 3 years now. I can't stand to ride my other ICE bikes, even my formerly prized 500 EXC. This is not for weekend joyrides or commutes over 10-15 miles. It's a utilitarian daily driver that turns the most mundane errands into huge fun.
@@flowmastaflam I consider it a bike for more advanced riders because you're like a stealth ninja, silently appearing and disappearing. You bother nobody, whether you're parking in the middle of a crowd or arriving home at 2am. But one must ride accordingly, as if completely invisible. Arguably one should ride a deafening Harley the same way, so I take the stealth as mostly upside. Ah, the stuff one can get away with!
Dang I love this thing! Right up until the price tag. Get this down into the $4500/$5000 range, give me another 25 or so miles of range, and it would sell like hotcakes. I ride a Suzuki DRZ-400SM some of the time (terrific bike), and it has similar handling dynamics and good fuel economy, but I picked it up pre-owned for ~$4000. I love the idea of an electric bike to replace the DRZ, but at current pricing, I just don't have the coin to make that jump.
You don't need a very loud horn... You just need a horn loud enough to be heard. With electric vehicles we can get rid of or at least reduce noise pollution.. We don't need to maintain or increase it for everyone unfortunate enough to live near busy roads.
@@MrUnder24 I disagree. If you're already driving electric, you've reduced your noise levels. Would you say the same about your headlamp? 'You don't need it to be very bright because of light pollution'? A very loud horn is a safety feature to protect you from people in their vehicles/semi trucks who often have windshields up, road & engine noise and music playing. You're flesh and bones on 2 wheels, moving fast and silently.. be heard, be seen 📯
@@aaronholiday3801 Most EV enthusiasts won't acknowledge that we exist, even when we point out how limited range is on most EVs. They seem to think that their concept of normal use is the only thing that should drive the market.
The top speed isn't bad for commuting back & forth but the 60 mile range....nah. I guess you could charge it while you were at work since most shifts are between 5-12 hours.
I did a full maintenance package on my FX at 2000km. I washed it, set my iPhone to the Zero app and pressed update. 30 minutes later I came back and all the maintenance was done.
I just got my bike license because my husband really wants me to ride with him.. I told him I want an electric bike.. This seems perfect!.. I want fun but not crazy.. Excellent review!
Yeay i don't need a big engine.. I actually just bought a Kawasaki Versys x300 2 days ago and it is absolutely amazing and 300cc is more than enough fun for me lol
He didn't see the pedestrians only sign on the fence post at the start of that trail. I don't know of any trail anywhere that has information panels that invite pedestrians to crowd around and read that also allow motor vehicles. It looks like even bicycles are not allowed there. If you are going to ride a motorcycle you need situational awareness. Ride safe. Ride courteous.
punchrover out of touch with people who don’t work hard enough to afford $10 for transportation. How much did you pay for your phone and gaming computer?
I'll bet the car you drive cost more than that new. Haven't seen many new cars in the realm of 8 grand. I think you're missing the (sizeable but underinformed) niche of urban or suburban commuters that only drive cars because they commute outside the bounds of public transit. Electric motorcycles also have much lower upkeep costs so the up-front cost is made up for by savings later.
@@keegans5695 the problem here is you're comparing this to cars, when in affordability it gets murdered by motorcycles. Is this thing more affordable than an entry level car? Sure. Is it more affordable than ANY other entry motorcycle? No. If affordability matter people will go out and buy a new 300/400 for ~4k If a budget is really tight they'll pick up used for ~$2,500 Also, before you kid yourself with the sub $10k price tag, don't forget the proper riding gear. a full set up does push you into new-old stock base model car territory. Without even glancing at the used car market.
I also was looking into getting a bike like this for work and city jumping. The price ran me off. I bought a brand new Enduro for $1500 and it gets around 110 miles with 1.3 gallons of fuel. I like knowing that all my bike needs is gas and it starts every time. No need to charge it for 9 hours. Once prices come down on e-bikes $5000 for brand new is ok. Then I will get one. But $8k for a small bike that I can't forget to plug in is very expensive. And repair cost.... Gas powered 250cc are very cheap. How much is a battery or even the controller ?
ZERO makes a sweet product. I’d buy one in a heartbeat if my moto season were longer and the price came down quite a bit. In ten years these EVs will be cheap and highly refined.
The range is what stops me! I love road trips n mountain going but wtf are you gonna go with 60 miles😂 especially when everything goes 200 n some even 300 miles. Best EV they got for range is the Brutus V8 with like 240 range but it weighs 800lbs
( Edted ) Sorry for the confusion... firstly, Awesome video!! Thanx4sharing!! (@Steve: on average the public would like 2 see electric only, at a cost of $10,000/vehicle, milage of at least 200 miles per charge. (Weekend country cruising, cottage, camping, etc) Otherwise they stick with what they know: gas. I will look for the survey where I got this from and post the link)
@@mirror1675 generally my strategy for letting unsafe drivers know I’m there is lots of revs, I’d get merged into a bit more on something without a combustion engine
Cole Christiansen 3:37-3:38 you can see the stick in the shadow on the floor on the right side. You can also see it in other places in the video u just have to look harder
The outrageous price points for these electric bikes and motorcycles are a very limiting factor when trying to decide what to purchase! The price coupled with the limited range makes good old gas powered transportation look better and better. I love how quiet and clean my ebike is but to step up to a motorcycle is out of the question at these prices! Looks like I’ll be going with a 250cc for probably half the price.
It’s an expensive rich man’s toy. Who can afford to spend $10000 on something just to get to work. But like the automobile.I bet the replacement battery cost is almost the price of the new bike. Not worth the money.
"Affordable" is a word that gets thrown around too much. I'd just like to point out you could buy a ninja 250 for around $1500 to $2000 and it will take you way further than an electric whilst carrying a passenger or cargo. 150kph - 170kph top speed? (custom mufflers/air filters/weight of rider/etc) $15 for a full tank of gas Changing oil, clean + lube chain and air filter takes about 30 minutes Not difficult or expensive
Its criminal how much they charge for a an extremely limited emotorcycle. You could buy a Harley or for that much. $8000-$10000 is not chump change and the re sale value on an e bike or an e motorcycle is not good!! (They don't tell you that when u buy one.) Ur paying thousands to only be limited to 60-100 mi. Then wait 9 hrs to ride again? Here's some advice.....Buy a REAL motorcycle! Those e motorbikes are NOT worth the money. Plus fuel for a motorcycle is cheap and they get so much better gas mileage than a car why would u need an e-motorcycle? Unless u have money to piss away. Now an e bike I can see why u would get one..u dont have to register or get insurance..u can ride 25 to 45 mi per charge use bike lanes,sidewalks,etc. But they are waaaaay more affordable. $1000-$2000 is much better than 8000-$10000. I'd take one if someone gave it to me but if im paying that much..Im buying a REAL motorcycle. Im positive it will be the smarter and more reliable decision down in the long run.
Call me when it has 100mph, 100 miles of freeway range at 80mph, 60 HP (torque is already excellent), and weights in at 250 lbs or less. The 250lbs model has 27hp and the 290lbs model has 46. Honestly, pretty impressive already. But I'm going to wait for the next iteration that is just that much better.
The horsepower is essentially meaningless here since the torque is so high. Every Zero is ridiculously fast off the line, and they all have plenty of power left even at high speeds.
Matthew Storms you have that backwards. Torque is meaningless. Torque is a static force devoid of time. Written as foot pounds. HP is a measure of work. Written as foot pounds per second. More torque means more HP at a lower rpm. hence the quick off the line acceleration. Once the engine is wound up it has little power.
@@KTMcaptain yes, but I would prefer torque over hp at any time as I don't cross 100mph. So anything over a 50 hp is useless. But if you increase torque, hp also increases GENERALLY. Electric motors provide high torque without high hp, perfect for me. But I prefer gears.
@@ritwikreddy5670 I don't think you understand the dichotomy of torque and horsepower. Horsepower is a measure of work. It is how much weight you can move in a given period of time. Torque doesn't describe how long it took to build up the force. It could take 10 years or 10 seconds to build 1,000,000 ft lbs. One has 0.00004 HP, and the other has 1,142 HP. So you can take a long stick and generate more torque than a semi-tractor engine, yet cannot move the load anywhere near as fast. 80 ft lbs at 1000 rpm is only 15HP. You need 3,000 rpm in order to make 46 hp. ((46/80)*5252 algebraically change rpm to X and rewrite HP=(RPM*TQ)/5252 in order to find what rpm it takes to make 46HP with 80ft lbs). So when you look at road speed vs engine/motor speed, you'd need to be doing about 51mph in order to make the 46hp ((85/5000)*3000=51). But, the motor makes 46hp at 4,300 rpm per Zero's website, which means you don't have full power until 72.5mph ((85/5000)*4300). Furthermore, guestimating utilizing my statistical software to create interpolated data, the motor makes 68 ft lbs of torque at 2,500 rpm which is 32hp at 42mph. (At 85 mph, 124.7 feet per second, with a tire circumference of 6.68 feet, the wheel must rotate 18.7 times per second or 84 revolutions per second of the motor considering the gear reduction. That is 5000 rpm @ 85mph) You're also missing a vastly important fact. Gearing can increase or decrease the torque at the wheel. An electric single speed bike is stuck in a high gear ratio. Compared to my previous 55hp 35 ft lbs bike, First gear is 2.43:1 gear ratio and 3.7:1 FD (9.03:1 total reduction). Zero FX is a 4.5:1 reduction. So 80 ft lbs in at 4.5:1 yields 360 ft lbs while a 35 ft lbs engine with a lower gear reduction generates 316 ft lbs. So a 129% torque advantage is reduced to 14%. Ultimately you want good torque, as it yields more HP at a lower RPM and generally reflects a higher average (not peak) HP across gear ratios. But what matters is your average HP, as Horsepower is 550 pounds moved a foot every second. It is torque within a defined interval.
When they become truly affordable many people will buy 🙂 because 10,000 is not affordable I'm waiting for it to drop by half the price witch is the same price as my gas version....
Stupid bike. Too expensive and batteries will be dead in 10 years and cost more than bikes worth. For almost $10,000 u can buy 2x used gas engine bikes ...or one new, or a used bike and used car. Terrible bike. I paid $1,500 for a Yamaha 650 touring bike 7 years ago, still like new, never had any problem except replaced back tire and brake pads, and it'll still be running long after those batteries die.
I TEST RODE ALL THE ZERO BIKES AND THE FXS WAS THE SLOWEST AND CUT OUT ON ME ON THE HIGHWAY. THE DEALER TRIED TO SELL IT TO ME FOR 3K OVER MSRP SO I WALKED AWAY . SALESMAN SAID WE ARE THE ONLY ZERO DEALER AROUND SO WE CAN MARK THEM UP FOR AS MUCH AS WE WANT .
The problem is, companies are still hoping to cash in on big margins instead of making bikes people want. Let's be honest. As simple as this bike is, it should cost $5K-$7K at most...and the big makers easily could do this if they wanted.
Some of us like to ride motorcycles because we enjoy motorcycles. Not to commute in ECO mode. You can't cruise around for long on a nice Friday evening on 60-90 miles of range.
60miles is nothing to a biker, it's fine for commuting, but bikers like to go for ride-outs or coastal/mountain runs, especially here in Europe with the mountain roads, UK has some great twisty roads (much to the delight of traffic cops looking to catch a speedy biker having too much fun) and you can easily do 100-200miles on a ride, that for me along with the price is what will stop me having an E-bike until range/price is much better, if the range was double then the price would be doable, don't want to have to plan a whole day around a trip having to stop each way to charge for whatever amount of time to get there/home.
Needs more range. Battery technology needs to make some leaps or perhaps some electronics genius needs to develop a motor that uses less amperage. I suppose it flies in the face of Ohm's Law. Perhaps some mechanical genius can develop a gearset that provides equal performance with lower power consumption.
@@PatrickKajirian how is it mounted? And do you have to manually edit out the mount in post or can you select an angle of the footage so that you don't see it?
@@jordanhart9441 The Insta360 One X comes with a telescopic selfie stick that is compatible with universal mounting equipment. The camera's software edits itself out of pictures and videos to give an omniscient 3rd-person perspective.
Would be great and cool if the battery slid out and had wheels and a suitcase handle on it. That way you could commute to work, take it with you and charge it at work. Also good for security reasons because they wouldn’t be able to run it and may deter from not having any gas engine or battery.
Well you don’t speak for me, but this specific bike isn’t my cup of tea. I would rather have extended range. I’m only getting around ~170 miles per tank now and getting an electric motorcycle with more range than that would be an easy choice. Syncing four carburetors is fucking annoying, I need less complications in transport technology.
Everyone's saying 8k is too expensive... go look at any harley Davidson or quality bike. Everyone's also calling out the 100 mile range, which isn't even that bad. I guess you just have to ride an electric bike to understand why they are worth it to some.
Motorcycle Michael - Like Unintended Consequences mentioned, they have other models available, however none with larger than stock batteries available as an option, and non with batteries that can be swapped out. By swap I mean you could have one at work charging, so you could ride to work, swap, go home, charge and repeat. Also of note is the many, MANY warranty issues, they have no warranty, and no support. THINK before you consider a Zero.
@@Erin-Thor Obviously I'm referring to a round trip. They're all round trips, aren't they? Work on your reading/comprehension skills, as well as your comment editing skills.
It's just not there yet. A ninja 300 will provide tons of fun and performance at around $2000 for a nice 2017 used one. 80mpg and cruises at 65 no problem. 8500 for a 100 mile range is a no-go.
Mathematically Impossible - Ahhhhhhh, you might want to watch again. 100 miles if you nurse it at low speed, which means 50 miles... maybe. Highway speed range is ONLY 40 miles, or 20 miles round trip if you want to sleep in your own bed.
And this used is probably 5500. They should have made the battery removable so you can buy 2 extras and put them on a rear mounted rack or keep them at work and interchange back and forth.
Great review! I have the same zoom h1 mic, good job on capturing the motor sound! If you need to know anything about drones or how much fun they can be, your invited to visit my channel ;) greets from Austria
As much as I love the idea of an electric enduro, gasoline remains much more transportable. Another issue is the silence. Riding in the city, I'm surrounded by distracted drivers who wouldn't know I was there if they didn't hear me. The killer is price. You could ride a descent bike for a lot of years before you reached $8000
Zero FXS given.
thank you
Leandro E. Louder - I don’t think TheCrazyFinn meant that as a compliment. 🤣
@@Erin-Thor I like the bike, didn't mean the quip as a compliment or a diss, just an observation. ;)
Exactly
The hero we need, but not the hero we deserve
I will have an ACTUAL affordable electric bike when I'm 80 at this pace
10 years tops.
Substitute price for pace and thats where I'm at
If you are looking for something that is pretty fast and way cheaper, you should check out the Sur-Ron X ebike.
I am 76 and am expecting affordable (as in Benelli by way of Chinese backing). Also, look for Polaris to purchase Zero Moto.
@@captainglitterfingers6213 And the identical but more expensive Segway E-bike, owned by the same Chinese company and re-branded. )(Eric of Luna Cycles is a hoot !)
I don’t understand why Tesla does not buy a company like Zero and rebrand it Tesla Zero and produce superior electric motors and battery packs for their motorcycles and just sell and distribute from the same web site and distribution centers that they use for their cars. They could do the same thing with Electric Bicycles.
Tesla is who they are because of innovation, not rebranding. I’ll take real innovation.
They're too busy already
@@AV8R_1 It is innovation to put more resources into the Zero team and to give them access to superior electric motors and battery packs from Tesla and to give them an entirely new distribution channel to sell the Zero motorcycle products. Besides, when Tesla acquires existing companies like Solar City and Maxwell Technology, they do so to speed up innovation, not merely to add the Tela name to it.
@@cooliipie Your so right. Elon has his hands full right now with projects
Elon doesn't like a motorcycle he or someone he knows got hurt real bad on a motorcycles and if tesla was going to make a motorcycles it would be 10 time better then this and it would cheaper
Rationalizing $8,500+ for an electric motorcycle that has less than 100mile range is quite stupid. Do I want one, hell yeah, but at that price, I can get a lot of motorcycle.
We're still somewhat in the early adoption phase, give it 6 years and the price will come way down.
@@wistfulherbz no it won’t, have electric cars come down? the problem all bikes both electric and ice have gotten really expensive.
@@emmcey To answer your question: Yes, electric cars have come down. In 2014 a 200 mile EV cost $70k. Now they cost $40k.
@@emmcey They have come down in price a little bit, but we're still in the early adoption phase and it still like 6 years off until we see any real drop in price. It's like when HD TVs first came out and it took them years to drop in price, but now you can get a boss TV on the cheap. Also with the upcoming breakthroughs in Battery tech(Solid State Batteries) and the shift away from Lithium, that will defiantly start to drop prices on electric vehicles.
Agreed..
A couple clothespins and playing cards, and you’ve got yourself a badass sounding machine.
Tango Charlie
Yessir my double spade ♠️ sure rips.
Tango Charlie , thanks for bring back some pleasing youthful thoughts with the playing card idea. 😜
I used a Flora margarine lid, best sound ever.
I preferred a can on the tire
Old school
This would be great for park rangers, they can roll up on vandal's
You should watch this then; a police department in CA has switched to EV bikes
ua-cam.com/video/V9oWPMfT-PE/v-deo.html
And Game Wardens.
@#1 TRACKRECORD what-a-JOKE The EV bikes they got as a fleet purchase are cheaper to buy, cheaper to maintain, and cheaper to run than their Harleys, and have gotten great praise from their community. Would you rather their taxpayers pay more for less?
...or Dregs and Archon Priests, especially Randall the Vandal.
(Destiny things)
abbaby555 - one vandal, two vandals. One vandal's hammer, two vandals' hammers. See how apostrophes work now?
If it cost 5k I would consider buying it. Especially since it will be a perfect starter bike, but I just don't have the budget to drop $8k on a toy. A used cbr300 will do just fine with me.
Hopefully, in time, the price will come down as more electric bikes get made.
WooferJr are you gay?
I think they've been out for at least 5 years now so there should be some used one's that is more affordable.
Same. So close
Make more money
My new Ninja 400
was $3150. That is affordable.
@Universal Sticker is $4,250 for brand new with ABS. Buy an overstock unit from the previous model year without ABS and it comes down.
Any idea how much is the maintenance and fuel over a period of 5 years? Genuinely interested.
@@cinilaknedalm That really depends on how many millage you put in during those years.
New tech vs old tech. There isn't anything innovate or new about the 400 which is produced by a Motorsport giant. Zero is new to the game in comparison to red, green and blue. With zero you're still paying for R&D on new tech, R&D for the rainbow teams has been covered for 20 years and they're just taking in profit. The people that buy Zeros bikes now will be paving the way for the lower cost "ninja 400" model that comes out years from now.
Ninja 400 is a joke... I would be bored on that bike in under a minute.
That intro shot was just perfect.
Glad you liked it, I woke up at 4AM to get that shot!
Good Video
Omg a Toumal
Good to see the pillion footpads on the lower shining arm, gives passengers some leg room.
Sweet. Gimme a sec to climb off my golden throne and I'll take 2 of em...
Poor thing .. die 😻
Next 10 years we’ll see more development and better prices
3000usd for a bike of the same caliber called "super soco" here in australia this thing in the video is close to 12k aud and thats for stock
@@ornn6177 wow I looked it up, that thing is pretty 😍
I doubt it. All the big makers could make this bike for $5-7K. But they aren't...because they are still trying to figure out how to make money instead of just giving people what they want.
When graphene batteries go mainstream and replace these lithium ions, itll be a whole new game. That's when I buy. For now, I save.
True that
google John Goodenough and solid state battery
doesn't scale to production level
Electric motor good. Batteries no such much. Gas still produces much more energy per unit. 15 times as much or so.
SSFTW
8k for a reasonable priced motorcycle..... get out of here.
8k ?!?!?!
Skrill - SWEET looking bike, cool concept. I would LOVE one, $8k is high, true, but for me it’s not a deal breaker. What is a dealbreaker are No larger battery options to increase the range and No ability to swap out the batteries, so no way to charge one or two others while you play, then return to base to swap batteries and repeat. This is a ride 40 miles and... and... and... well that’s it.
The batteries have to be replaced if they dont explode first!
Come back and make a video when this bike is $2k.
But you buy NO GAS. ⛽ !
Still waiting on an e-bike with a swappable battery pack. If manufacturers standardized a system, then there could be battery exchange "stations" like the ones for propane tanks.
I'm pretty sure this is the only model from zero that has a swappable battery! I only bought one a couple years ago and thought I read that on their site.
@@rodrick722 Thanks for the reply. I know of a couple of bike models with swappable batteries. I guess what I really meant was e-bike companies establishing an industry standard for swappable batteries. Enjoy your bike!
gogoro in Taiwan have a system like that
@@junyong12 That's cool! Thanks.
Check out Ultraviolette f77. Its not available to buy yet. But looks very promising and much cheaper.
What a beautiful sounding motor. Reminds me of a jet engine idling before take off. Real good job with the mic
And it makes you wonder why the Harley Davidson LiveWire sounds like ice in a blender.
As much as I love the idea of this bike, I just can't bring myself to ride on the road. I ride MTB bikes, strictly off-road (I know 5 people who have been hit by cars on bicycles, one dead). If I were a road rider, I'd certainly buy one.
I want to get into a bike but I'm in the same boat as you, so many distracted drivers and no respect for motorcycles at least in South Florida, guess I'll stick with MTB.
40 mile range? 9 hours to charge? this is a damn childs toy.
Won't be funny when you head off to work in the morning and find that someone unplugged it.
Revolt intellicorp has launched electric bikes in India. The base model RV300 is priced at $1553, and the amount is to be deposited in 37 installments of around $42 each. Just pay $42 and take your bike, no hidden costs and nothing.
The bike can run approx 156km in full charge in economy mode (speed restricted to 45km/hr), and 80km in Nitro mode (speed locked to 85km/hr). Battery takes just 4.5hrs to charge from 0 to 100%.
Even comes with a speaker which can produce 3 types of different superb bike sounds.
The best thing is, they're providing ZERO cost of running for 3 years, anything from tyre replacement to battery replacement will be done free cost. And there is also a feature of battery swapping, where the user can simply swap the battery from the nearest Revolt bike store, while on ride, when he is unable to charge the battery. That too at zero price.
I wish brands could enter the market with same strategy, so that more people could afford it and our environment could be saved.
Is the battery of the india brand better than zero?
@@maddiel6897 I think, both the brands must be having Chinese batteries. Though the Indian brand is also providing 8 years battery warranty.
@@user-uz4gh7sm9l hope the batteries live out the 8yrs warranty coz some people are hardcore bikers and longrides(which fuel based bikes takes the throne) are really awesome.
@@maddiel6897 well, 8 years is a long period. If it fails during that time or malfunctions, the company will be providing free replacement. So, it's not something to worry about.
@@user-uz4gh7sm9l are they planning to expand on neighboring countries?
8,000+ ........that's affordable? Are you serious might as well just purchase an actual car at that point
Michael considering the low range of travel and the fact that the life expectancy for these bikes is less than half of a gas powered bike, I would not considering these affordable at all. They look like a blast to ride but until they have longer ranges, reasonable charge times, and longer life expectancy I don’t think the price can be justified for the average consumer.
hiram esquivel
10k ?
brand new car ?
oof
@@Peter-ff1tp the most affordable motorcycle is a used one. You dont go for affordability if you plan on paying sticker price. You can buy all of those gas bikes for a fraction of their cost used, and used does not equal abused. You couldnt even find a zero on the used marketplace, and even if you could batteries do not age well. Electric looks great initially but is wholly impractical for most riders, the infrastructure or the technology is just not there yet
@@Peter-ff1tp The original comment was about the bike being affordable. None of the bikes you listed are considered affordable to most people unless you go to the used market, which is why I mentioned it. The price of a used bike is relevant here because the zero has a major disadvantage in its availability and battery degradation
Everything is relative. He’s speaking relative to others electric motorcycles.
I've ridden an FX every day for nearly 3 years now. I can't stand to ride my other ICE bikes, even my formerly prized 500 EXC. This is not for weekend joyrides or commutes over 10-15 miles. It's a utilitarian daily driver that turns the most mundane errands into huge fun.
Do you feel that there is an increased danger due to being quiet?
@@flowmastaflam I consider it a bike for more advanced riders because you're like a stealth ninja, silently appearing and disappearing. You bother nobody, whether you're parking in the middle of a crowd or arriving home at 2am. But one must ride accordingly, as if completely invisible. Arguably one should ride a deafening Harley the same way, so I take the stealth as mostly upside. Ah, the stuff one can get away with!
It sounds like a fun bike but most people don't have or want to spend 8-10K on just a low mileage commuter toy.
@@kugangles9860 Low milege is not a problem until it covers your every day ride
@@kugangles9860 check out the bikes on my channel they are 4000 cad and 2500 cad and electric
Dang I love this thing! Right up until the price tag. Get this down into the $4500/$5000 range, give me another 25 or so miles of range, and it would sell like hotcakes. I ride a Suzuki DRZ-400SM some of the time (terrific bike), and it has similar handling dynamics and good fuel economy, but I picked it up pre-owned for ~$4000. I love the idea of an electric bike to replace the DRZ, but at current pricing, I just don't have the coin to make that jump.
With tax rebate in federal and CA, price is down to 7000 new
Check out the kolter
How is this a commutter? 40 miles highway use and 9 hours to fully charge? For $10K? Just buy a motorcycle.
is there a VERY LOUD horn?
You certainly would want to be heard when riding public roads and highways.
You don't need a very loud horn... You just need a horn loud enough to be heard. With electric vehicles we can get rid of or at least reduce noise pollution.. We don't need to maintain or increase it for everyone unfortunate enough to live near busy roads.
@@MrUnder24 I disagree. If you're already driving electric, you've reduced your noise levels. Would you say the same about your headlamp? 'You don't need it to be very bright because of light pollution'? A very loud horn is a safety feature to protect you from people in their vehicles/semi trucks who often have windshields up, road & engine noise and music playing. You're flesh and bones on 2 wheels, moving fast and silently.. be heard, be seen 📯
Everything that was said makes me not want to buy this. 60mile range, 9 hour charge time, 85 mph top speed. Smh
Like he said, it's not for everyone. As nice as it is, I'm not keen on riding one at night, which is when 50% of my commute to/from work is.
@@MatthewN8OHU you're right. It's for commuters only. Not for us that actually enjoy riding.
@@aaronholiday3801 Most EV enthusiasts won't acknowledge that we exist, even when we point out how limited range is on most EVs. They seem to think that their concept of normal use is the only thing that should drive the market.
The top speed isn't bad for commuting back & forth but the 60 mile range....nah. I guess you could charge it while you were at work since most shifts are between 5-12 hours.
Aaron Holiday I hope you’re being sarcastic lol if you need to drive over 60 miles a day to enjoy riding, I’m sorry.
Excellent review, can you cover maintenance part as well in upcoming videos and battery replacement cost and kms
They will not know what some of the "important" maintenance items mean. Most of us zero owners don't know what they mean either😂
@@austina4189 😂
I did a full maintenance package on my FX at 2000km. I washed it, set my iPhone to the Zero app and pressed update. 30 minutes later I came back and all the maintenance was done.
@@magnusrittersen4702 ha ha very nice
i recommend watching fortnines video on the zero, there is a part covering maintenance compared to classic bikes
Affordable? WTF you smoking?
Its called PAYOLA
a normal everyday Spider Geah i guess thats if you dont pay rent or other bills and live with your parents.
its less then 15k?
That silent intro.. Impressive as fuck!
Question; is there any engine-brake?
Or does it just keep rolling?
I just got my bike license because my husband really wants me to ride with him.. I told him I want an electric bike.. This seems perfect!.. I want fun but not crazy.. Excellent review!
Lunamaria Go for KTM duke 390 or 790 if you want real fun.
@@ravirajyaguru5905 Or a 250cc for $250 for just as much fun.
Go for it. No shifting! Be careful out there.
Yeay i don't need a big engine.. I actually just bought a Kawasaki Versys x300 2 days ago and it is absolutely amazing and 300cc is more than enough fun for me lol
@@ravirajyaguru5905 This is faster to 70 than a 790.
Really appreciate the time spent on producing this video. High quality I say!
that's badass. I love how you showed you can ride it on the trails. that opens up a lot of possibilities
He didn't see the pedestrians only sign on the fence post at the start of that trail. I don't know of any trail anywhere that has information panels that invite pedestrians to crowd around and read that also allow motor vehicles. It looks like even bicycles are not allowed there. If you are going to ride a motorcycle you need situational awareness. Ride safe. Ride courteous.
10k?!!! Affordable?!!!!!! No.
3000 for a bike of the same caliber brand is super soco
Imagine you walking your dog and some dudes going 50mph past you in the trail 😂😂
Zero percent of this is affordable
I would consider this with a fast charging capacity and 200 miles on that charge.
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Dyson electric superbike. 200 mile range and charges in a half hour. Oh yea 200hp and 200mph!
8k but closer to 10k affordable for a luxury 😂😂😂😂😂
Out of touch
Yeah this is still in the realm of richer inner city white collar folk.
punchrover out of touch with people who don’t work hard enough to afford $10 for transportation. How much did you pay for your phone and gaming computer?
@@kbkesq definitely not $8500 USD. You're out of touch too.
I'll bet the car you drive cost more than that new. Haven't seen many new cars in the realm of 8 grand.
I think you're missing the (sizeable but underinformed) niche of urban or suburban commuters that only drive cars because they commute outside the bounds of public transit.
Electric motorcycles also have much lower upkeep costs so the up-front cost is made up for by savings later.
@@keegans5695 the problem here is you're comparing this to cars, when in affordability it gets murdered by motorcycles.
Is this thing more affordable than an entry level car? Sure.
Is it more affordable than ANY other entry motorcycle? No.
If affordability matter people will go out and buy a new 300/400 for ~4k
If a budget is really tight they'll pick up used for ~$2,500
Also, before you kid yourself with the sub $10k price tag, don't forget the proper riding gear. a full set up does push you into new-old stock base model car territory. Without even glancing at the used car market.
How loud is the horn? I've gotta feeling I'd be using it often cuz the other drivers won't hear me coming.... 👍😎🏍🏍
4:00....I kept waiting for it to shift gears.
I also was looking into getting a bike like this for work and city jumping.
The price ran me off.
I bought a brand new Enduro for $1500 and it gets around 110 miles with 1.3 gallons of fuel.
I like knowing that all my bike needs is gas and it starts every time.
No need to charge it for 9 hours.
Once prices come down on e-bikes
$5000 for brand new is ok.
Then I will get one.
But $8k for a small bike that I can't forget to plug in is very expensive.
And repair cost....
Gas powered 250cc are very cheap.
How much is a battery or even the controller ?
what enduro did you buy for $1500 new? must be some chinese POS
You missed out in listening to the detail. You can drop down the charge using auxiliary charger.
Chris S - Clearly you did not buy a Suzuki, which does NOT start every time. 🤬
$1,500 sounds like a Chinese enduro I do not think any of them go anywhere near 85 mph I am looking at the Tao Tao or Hawk
I’d say this is more of a dirt bike/off road bike than a motorcycle
I love this so much except for the range..
ZERO makes a sweet product. I’d buy one in a heartbeat if my moto season were longer and the price came down quite a bit. In ten years these EVs will be cheap and highly refined.
Base price in Spain: 12,390 euros (13,794 dollars) - dammit!
Goddamnit why do you Europeans have all the best shit
Out the door my FX3.6 was Can$13,800. Worth every penny. FUN factor is through the roof!
The range is what stops me! I love road trips n mountain going but wtf are you gonna go with 60 miles😂 especially when everything goes 200 n some even 300 miles. Best EV they got for range is the Brutus V8 with like 240 range but it weighs 800lbs
They offer one with hot swappable batteries so you could carry a bunch of extras. It’s not the best solution but it works I guess
As much as I want to go all electric, idk why I would ever, at the wage 80٪ of people make, ever pay a premium for one.
people pay 40k for a dumb Harley .. I think I can pay 10 for a silent ninja warrior
( Edted ) Sorry for the confusion... firstly, Awesome video!! Thanx4sharing!! (@Steve: on average the public would like 2 see electric only, at a cost of $10,000/vehicle, milage of at least 200 miles per charge. (Weekend country cruising, cottage, camping, etc) Otherwise they stick with what they know: gas. I will look for the survey where I got this from and post the link)
thank you
“No one even knew I was there, because I wasn’t making any noise”
I dunno, this sounds like a recipe for motorcycle disaster.
All motorcycles are intrinsically so unsafe that the electric ones being quiet makes little difference to their danger.
@@mirror1675 generally my strategy for letting unsafe drivers know I’m there is lots of revs, I’d get merged into a bit more on something without a combustion engine
For 10,000$ in India you can buy a Royal Enfield continental GT 650, KTM RC 390 and a bullet 350 all together...
I'm buying it.
How much its cost
nisam it’s like 10k I would buy it but I can’t afford it
This need a license?
Id rarther stick a cordless drill to my 10 speed drive train and carry a dozen batteries in my bag.. Id expect an r1 for 8k .
fathead adolf barry 😭😭😭😭😭😭😂
An R1? You mean a $17k bike? I agree that 8k is too much, but get out of here lol.
how did you film the riding portion? i see no camera stick
Cole Christiansen 3:37-3:38 you can see the stick in the shadow on the floor on the right side. You can also see it in other places in the video u just have to look harder
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The outrageous price points for these electric bikes and motorcycles are a very limiting factor when trying to decide what to purchase! The price coupled with the limited range makes good old gas powered transportation look better and better. I love how quiet and clean my ebike is but to step up to a motorcycle is out of the question at these prices! Looks like I’ll be going with a 250cc for probably half the price.
No thanks. I don't want to be stranded in the middle of nowhere looking for a damn socket to plug it in while being chased by an axe murderer.
It’s an expensive rich man’s toy. Who can afford to spend $10000 on something just to get to work. But like the automobile.I bet the replacement battery cost is almost the price of the new bike. Not worth the money.
"Affordable" is a word that gets thrown around too much.
I'd just like to point out you could buy a ninja 250 for around $1500 to $2000 and it will take you way further than an electric whilst carrying a passenger or cargo.
150kph - 170kph top speed? (custom mufflers/air filters/weight of rider/etc)
$15 for a full tank of gas
Changing oil, clean + lube chain and air filter takes about 30 minutes
Not difficult or expensive
You'll change your mind if you ever ride a Zero. I did.
We’re can you buy a NEW Ninja 250 for $2000?
@@magnusrittersen4702 they don't make ninja 250 anymore genius
According to Kawasaki’s website they make a 2019 ninja 250. Are you American? That would explain your response.
Its criminal how much they charge for a an extremely limited emotorcycle. You could buy a Harley or for that much.
$8000-$10000 is not chump change and the re sale value on an e bike or an e motorcycle is not good!! (They don't tell you that when u buy one.)
Ur paying thousands to only be limited to 60-100 mi. Then wait 9 hrs to ride again? Here's some advice.....Buy a REAL motorcycle!
Those e motorbikes are NOT worth the money. Plus fuel for a motorcycle is cheap and they get so much better gas mileage than a car why would u need an e-motorcycle? Unless u have money to piss away.
Now an e bike I can see why u would get one..u dont have to register or get insurance..u can ride 25 to 45 mi per charge use bike lanes,sidewalks,etc.
But they are waaaaay more affordable.
$1000-$2000 is much better than 8000-$10000.
I'd take one if someone gave it to me but if im paying that much..Im buying a REAL motorcycle. Im positive it will be the smarter and more reliable decision down in the long run.
Call me when it has 100mph, 100 miles of freeway range at 80mph, 60 HP (torque is already excellent), and weights in at 250 lbs or less. The 250lbs model has 27hp and the 290lbs model has 46.
Honestly, pretty impressive already. But I'm going to wait for the next iteration that is just that much better.
The horsepower is essentially meaningless here since the torque is so high. Every Zero is ridiculously fast off the line, and they all have plenty of power left even at high speeds.
Matthew Storms you have that backwards.
Torque is meaningless. Torque is a static force devoid of time. Written as foot pounds.
HP is a measure of work. Written as foot pounds per second.
More torque means more HP at a lower rpm. hence the quick off the line acceleration. Once the engine is wound up it has little power.
@@KTMcaptain yes, but I would prefer torque over hp at any time as I don't cross 100mph. So anything over a 50 hp is useless. But if you increase torque, hp also increases GENERALLY.
Electric motors provide high torque without high hp, perfect for me. But I prefer gears.
@@ritwikreddy5670 I don't think you understand the dichotomy of torque and horsepower.
Horsepower is a measure of work. It is how much weight you can move in a given period of time. Torque doesn't describe how long it took to build up the force. It could take 10 years or 10 seconds to build 1,000,000 ft lbs. One has 0.00004 HP, and the other has 1,142 HP. So you can take a long stick and generate more torque than a semi-tractor engine, yet cannot move the load anywhere near as fast.
80 ft lbs at 1000 rpm is only 15HP. You need 3,000 rpm in order to make 46 hp. ((46/80)*5252 algebraically change rpm to X and rewrite HP=(RPM*TQ)/5252 in order to find what rpm it takes to make 46HP with 80ft lbs). So when you look at road speed vs engine/motor speed, you'd need to be doing about 51mph in order to make the 46hp ((85/5000)*3000=51). But, the motor makes 46hp at 4,300 rpm per Zero's website, which means you don't have full power until 72.5mph ((85/5000)*4300). Furthermore, guestimating utilizing my statistical software to create interpolated data, the motor makes 68 ft lbs of torque at 2,500 rpm which is 32hp at 42mph.
(At 85 mph, 124.7 feet per second, with a tire circumference of 6.68 feet, the wheel must rotate 18.7 times per second or 84 revolutions per second of the motor considering the gear reduction. That is 5000 rpm @ 85mph)
You're also missing a vastly important fact. Gearing can increase or decrease the torque at the wheel.
An electric single speed bike is stuck in a high gear ratio. Compared to my previous 55hp 35 ft lbs bike, First gear is 2.43:1 gear ratio and 3.7:1 FD (9.03:1 total reduction). Zero FX is a 4.5:1 reduction. So 80 ft lbs in at 4.5:1 yields 360 ft lbs while a 35 ft lbs engine with a lower gear reduction generates 316 ft lbs. So a 129% torque advantage is reduced to 14%.
Ultimately you want good torque, as it yields more HP at a lower RPM and generally reflects a higher average (not peak) HP across gear ratios. But what matters is your average HP, as Horsepower is 550 pounds moved a foot every second. It is torque within a defined interval.
@@KTMcaptain 👍. Everyone else - get your coat!
When they become truly affordable many people will buy 🙂 because 10,000 is not affordable I'm waiting for it to drop by half the price witch is the same price as my gas version....
Im down for all eco friendly vehicles but a clutchless bike is way to weird for someone that has ridden a regular bike most of their lifes.
LesterXDoesPlays ever rode a scooter? Basically the same thing except its in a different shape. Weird sure, hard? Not at all.
LesterXDoesPlays - You would adapt as easily as you would going back and forth between a manual shift car and an automatic transmission.
A clutch is a crutch though. It only existed to compensate for the inefficiencies of a combustion engine. I welcome our new electric overlords!
Stupid bike. Too expensive and batteries will be dead in 10 years and cost more than bikes worth. For almost $10,000 u can buy 2x used gas engine bikes ...or one new, or a used bike and used car. Terrible bike. I paid $1,500 for a Yamaha 650 touring bike 7 years ago, still like new, never had any problem except replaced back tire and brake pads, and it'll still be running long after those batteries die.
Fantastic review sir! I've been wanting a Zero for a while , have a few Sur Rons at the moment because the lower price point was easier to save for.
I TEST RODE ALL THE ZERO BIKES AND THE FXS WAS THE SLOWEST AND CUT OUT ON ME ON THE HIGHWAY. THE DEALER TRIED TO SELL IT TO ME FOR 3K OVER MSRP SO I WALKED AWAY . SALESMAN SAID WE ARE THE ONLY ZERO DEALER AROUND SO WE CAN MARK THEM UP FOR AS MUCH AS WE WANT .
You didn't even touch on the cost of charging vs standard petrol bikes. Is it more economical?
It's like a few dollars to fully charge the bike. I personally wouldn't buy a motorcycle that costs more than 10 grand.
@@doiceslife8374 if you have it for at least a year, you will save a lot of money. not as much as the cost difference of gas and this, but still.
The problem is, companies are still hoping to cash in on big margins instead of making bikes people want.
Let's be honest. As simple as this bike is, it should cost $5K-$7K at most...and the big makers easily could do this if they wanted.
Some of us like to ride motorcycles because we enjoy motorcycles. Not to commute in ECO mode. You can't cruise around for long on a nice Friday evening on 60-90 miles of range.
60miles is nothing to a biker, it's fine for commuting, but bikers like to go for ride-outs or coastal/mountain runs, especially here in Europe with the mountain roads, UK has some great twisty roads (much to the delight of traffic cops looking to catch a speedy biker having too much fun) and you can easily do 100-200miles on a ride, that for me along with the price is what will stop me having an E-bike until range/price is much better, if the range was double then the price would be doable, don't want to have to plan a whole day around a trip having to stop each way to charge for whatever amount of time to get there/home.
plan on getting a salvaged FX/FXS and putting the powertrain in a honda ATV I think it would be amazing.
Interesting idea. Now you have thinking about using a FX/FXS power train in my riding mower.
Even if your job was 50 mikes away, you could park there, charge while you work and then get on with your day
Simple and direct to the point review. I have never seen a better review for any vehicle.
Needs more range. Battery technology needs to make some leaps or perhaps some electronics genius needs to develop a motor that uses less amperage. I suppose it flies in the face of Ohm's Law. Perhaps some mechanical genius can develop a gearset that provides equal performance with lower power consumption.
I can buy 2 great bikes for less than $8500...
Bro just called 10K starting price affordable 💀
Dude, what camera setup are you using for the tracking shots of the bike? So cool!
Yes Micah tell us
360 camera
That would be Insta360's One X spherical camera.
@@PatrickKajirian how is it mounted? And do you have to manually edit out the mount in post or can you select an angle of the footage so that you don't see it?
@@jordanhart9441 The Insta360 One X comes with a telescopic selfie stick that is compatible with universal mounting equipment. The camera's software edits itself out of pictures and videos to give an omniscient 3rd-person perspective.
Would be great and cool if the battery slid out and had wheels and a suitcase handle on it. That way you could commute to work, take it with you and charge it at work. Also good for security reasons because they wouldn’t be able to run it and may deter from not having any gas engine or battery.
Okay... I will say it for every person that loves motorcycles. This bike is GAY.
Plus it is an automatic... even more GAY!
Well you don’t speak for me, but this specific bike isn’t my cup of tea. I would rather have extended range. I’m only getting around ~170 miles per tank now and getting an electric motorcycle with more range than that would be an easy choice. Syncing four carburetors is fucking annoying, I need less complications in transport technology.
Everyone's saying 8k is too expensive... go look at any harley Davidson or quality bike. Everyone's also calling out the 100 mile range, which isn't even that bad. I guess you just have to ride an electric bike to understand why they are worth it to some.
You are right my friends. Only those who never tried the power delivery of an electric vehicle know why they worth their price
Great review - how’d you shoot this?
Please update in the description the gear used.
Cheers
Doc
LOL@"Affordable".
Good review. The price is getting there now we need the range.
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The best one is the crf 250r gas DirtBike lmao
I need a 100 mile range on freeway for my round trip commute
Motorcycle Michael - Like Unintended Consequences mentioned, they have other models available, however none with larger than stock batteries available as an option, and non with batteries that can be swapped out. By swap I mean you could have one at work charging, so you could ride to work, swap, go home, charge and repeat. Also of note is the many, MANY warranty issues, they have no warranty, and no support. THINK before you consider a Zero.
The other options are totally affordable.......
Motorcycle Michael - Highway range is 40 miles.
headlight at the front is ugly. Why no LED ?
No thanks ! More like $800.00 and would think about it !
Not for 9 grand it’s not
So, I might not get home during a spirited 40 mile ride? Pass.
Richard - 40 miles ROUND TRIP. So 20 mile ride, If you want to sleep in your own bed. Please do try and keep up! 😁
@@Erin-Thor Obviously I'm referring to a round trip. They're all round trips, aren't they? Work on your reading/comprehension skills, as well as your comment editing skills.
Richard - Awe! And here I was going for tongue in cheek humor. Sorry if I offended you. 😁
Loud bikes save lives
Yeah nothing as calming as the wet fart sound coming from the harley going 16 mph in front of you and no passing lane.
@@bobm9509 Haha, that's funny. I'm in comifornia. Everything is a passing lane
Can go 60 miles, takes 9 hours to charge, basically very limiting everyday ride...
Guy in video: "I love the versatility"
The 9 hours is for the standard wall outlet which you usually plug your bike in overnight.
If I could have any bike this would be it
You say that like it's cheap and it doesn't cost them half that to build it. It shouldn't be more than $5000
It's not more than $5000 once you take into consideration savings and incentives... It's actually close to $0
Wish it had a supercharger socket aswell
It's just not there yet. A ninja 300 will provide tons of fun and performance at around $2000 for a nice 2017 used one. 80mpg and cruises at 65 no problem.
8500 for a 100 mile range is a no-go.
Mathematically Impossible - Ahhhhhhh, you might want to watch again. 100 miles if you nurse it at low speed, which means 50 miles... maybe. Highway speed range is ONLY 40 miles, or 20 miles round trip if you want to sleep in your own bed.
And this used is probably 5500.
They should have made the battery removable so you can buy 2 extras and put them on a rear mounted rack or keep them at work and interchange back and forth.
Isn't a no-sound bike more dangerous?
$8k affordable? We can talk once it gets down to the $3k
Great review! I have the same zoom h1 mic, good job on capturing the motor sound! If you need to know anything about drones or how much fun they can be, your invited to visit my channel ;) greets from Austria
You'd think they could afford to throw in a fast charger at that price.
Price "Starts at just 8k"....... Bruh......
As much as I love the idea of an electric enduro, gasoline remains much more transportable. Another issue is the silence. Riding in the city, I'm surrounded by distracted drivers who wouldn't know I was there if they didn't hear me. The killer is price. You could ride a descent bike for a lot of years before you reached $8000
How many years do the batteries last