Those creaks and squeaks don't bother most auto journalists who "test drive" cars. Thanks TFL for the real world review...anyone who has paid for a car that squeaks can feel your pain.
I've got 20+ years in the auto industry and have always advised people to WAIT to purchase a new model release until 2nd year, as it gives manufacturers more time to discover any issues/quirks/problems and then remedy them.
And I know this but as my wife reminded me I’ve done it twice. 2015 Hyundai Sonata Limited had the panoramic roof sound like lawn chairs in a station wagon. Multiple attempts at repair failed. Finally put an entire replacement and a year later the noise returned!!! Should of lemon lawd it!!!!!
For what it's worth, I recommend the 2nd model year of a new release for same reason mentioned in original post, but also because waiting until the 3rd model year or 4th when buying new, will leave you in a more negative equity situation, if the manufacturer releases an all new model every 4 years. Hope that makes sense...
That "headliner" looks like it was put on by kids during arts and crafts week using Elmer's glue. The rattle might be an issue because of the pillar delete for the extra open air experience. Id take the pillar with speakers above my head like the Wrangler which I'm sure makes it more secure and less prone to rattling.
It seems like the rattles coming from one of the camlock‘s. I would suggest to try driving around with one cam lock in the open position so the cam can’t rattle against the locking plate. Then close camlock and re-open another one until you find the one that’s rattling. Once you find the bad cam lock you need to remove the locking plate that attaches to the body and put a a small rubber gasket or felt tape between the body of the vehicle and locking plate.This should make the camlock fit slightly tighter fit and hopefully eliminate the rattle. I’ve used felt tape to fix rattles on my vehicles in the past.
@@drummeralex9198 it's also a brand new vehicle, first year production is gonna have some quality issues to work out. Ford has switched parts suppliers for the MIC top so hopefully newer models won't have this issue.
And to add to the carpet liner being cheap, it’s weird how at some point when Tommy was putting the top back on, you could see debri falling from the carpet liner. That in itself seems cheap
I saw this too, it’s like shedding all over the place. Makes me feel itchy just watching it. That will only get worse I bet with extreme heat in summer
I'm not ragging on the Wrangler, but the freedom tops on my jk leaked from day one here in Hawaii. I cured it when I bought the Bestop fold back convertible for them. No more leaks, with the added benefit of only two latches and not having to store any panels while I want some open air driving. Takes 5 seconds to shut and latch when I need to dodge the rain!
But how is the soft top in the snow and at minus 40?? Hahaha,,,,,,,, Hawaii,,,,, you are very fortunate indeed!! I am a Canadian, so we don’t have places quite so nice to live in that are part of the country,,,,,, I AM VERY JEALOUS!! Hahaha. Soooo when you get a chance please. Let me know about the snow and ice!! Heh heh. I actually already know and they are surprisingly good! Let a little more cold in, but the heater can keep up.
@@ChrisGramm - Awwwwww ya got me!! Heh heh. Forgot you had that kind of access,,,,,,,. I have to work harder on my geography!! Thanks for sharing the information!! You are definitely fortunate!! Haha.
My dad had a jku and the freedom top leaked inside the jeep and inside the panel itself, you could hear the water sloshing around. I found the problem was that on the side of the panel where it was pressed together, it had no seal and it allowed water to come in through the crack and leak through the area that you put the screw in, a long bead of rtv on all sides of the panel and it never leaked again and never heard any more sloshing. Btw freedom top panels can hold a couple gallons of water...
and that's why it would be awesome if there was a solid roof Bronco, Wrangler, etc. A lot of us have no real world use for removable roofs and rather have a solid roof for less squeaks, more shade and more carrying capacity.
@@urbannomad8126 those are very expensive. Like $90k expensive. And with the 2022 redesign of the land cruiser, and the loss of the V8 engines, expect the prices of the 2021 models to double. If you want reliable off road ability for cheap, the 4runner is your best option.
I think you have a very nice vehicle, but you pay so much for the “Pro” portion of the vehicle. If you are leaving it stock, then it’s not so bad. If you lift it, you threw the best part of the “Pro” package. Most of my friends have switched to the Ranger Tremor and are leaving it stock. It outperforms the stock TRD pro off-road just on the basis of physics. They are both nice trucks.
@@shitloveaduck Agreed. The only things I plan to change is the wheels and to add a desert air intake, not for function I just think they look cool. I live in the north so I need a vehicle with 4wd. I didn’t want a Pro but I did want the lunar rock color so it was a simple choice.
And people will bitch about wind noise? It is a PURPOSE BUILT VEHICLE!!! Not a grocery getter!! I own a 2022 2 door hardtop! It’s everything it should be!
That would drive me nuts! I had a Toyota 4 Runner 1989 SR5 with the full length resin top, took it off hundreds times on and off road and never had any issues with noise or wear and tear.
That’s because Toyota makes quality products……. That get tested before leaving the factory. Too many suckers in this world that have to buy North American made junk. The big three make crap vehicles.
That and the overall quality. I'm not surprised though. Ford has a history of good looking vehicles with just garbage materials and assembly. That sound damping is just cheap felting that sheds every time you look at it. The center console thing was hilarious. As for the creaking, that is also not surprising. There are what, 5 panels on the top? They all have to lock and unlock and there is going to be movement. Likely you could tighten the release levers and it would help. Or put some felt in-between the layers. But you shouldn't have to....
It's the same top that comes on the $30k version. I have a problem with complaining about quality-for-price when you intentionally seek out the most expensive version of a relatively inexpensive vehicle.
It's a Ford at the end of the day🤙I had a 1990 Ford Bronco 5.8 engine and it wasn't making no rattling noise or made cheap, its 2021 and Ford, GM and Dodge care only about profit and making them with very cheap materials
@@mechmat12345 my Toyota’s cheaper and doesn’t have noise issues. If the top’s apart of your cars design cool, but I still expect it to behave like a normal car. I have a base cheaper version Toyota with a sunroof that’s older and it doesn’t make odd noises.
So, my Bronco was built on 7/21. It (along with many others) has been stuck "in production" (dealer verified its built) as its currently going through a thorough, QC. Ford has recognized a multitude of issues with the MIC and hopes to catch/resolve them before any future, deliveries.
@@shitloveaduck I hope so too. It's been an absolute, roller coaster regarding these Bronco's. It's like, I want it to get here asap, but on the other hand I kind of want them to take their time on QC. So, the Broncos awaiting QC have filled up about 3 lots outside of MAP. Once QC is complete, they authorize release, our trackers get updated with built, shipped along with an ETA.
I like how Tommy was focusing the camera on the squeaky part of car but Dad decides to focus camera on Tomys face whole time waiting for it to squek 😀😀🙏
Well, the first rule of new car buying is avoid first year of production of new models unless you like spending time at the dealership. I was a Honda tech back in '93 when the Del Sol came out, and every single one we sold came back multiple times for roof rattles and leaks. Eventually Honda redesigned the seals completely, which finally fixed the issues, but it took over a year.
Been watching this channel for years. I also think about how cool it would be to work with your child/dad! Love their relationship and love the content! Keep up the great work!
@@casey2009 yeah truly is but hey I hope to get one of these way down the road when I can afford them so the more they critique and improve the design will benefit everyone else down the road haha
Ford Bronco is built on U.S. soil at Michigan Assembly Plant in Wayne, Michigan. The plant employs more than 3,000 American workers that just dont care anymore... truck looks like it was made in a third world country
Yes, thank you, TFL, for bringing up these types of issues that are usually swept under the rug, or shrugged off as being too minor to address. When you spend your hard-earned money on a car, you dont want a popping or squeeking noise right above your head, or anywhere in the car, for that matter! I am surprised that the Ford Engineers didn't spot this issue, while driving around the country, testing these cars.
When I was purchasing my last vehicle, the Ford chime and other electronics set up helped me decide to not buy Ford. It really needs and update. Radical Idea, how about letting car owners pick from a variety of sound/chime schemes. You can do that with a 100.00 GPS, why not a 50,000.00 vehicle?
My 2015 Edge Sport cost 46K new and since day one the armrest squeeked. Five years later? Still there. Ford quality is job #42. The fist 41 jobs are profit margin based
@@billyorlando4724 The first and only Ford my wife and I had was a 97 Taurus. It needed 2 engines, would have needed a 3rd Transmissions and a COSTCO shopping cart of other parts. Toyota was our savior.
If the recalls for the rattle in my Transit are an indicator of anything, the recall will not fix it and the dealer will keep rescheduling you when you show up for your appointment because the "don't have the correct glue".
If their repair of the cracked panels on virtually all 2002-2005 Explorers, Mountaineers and Aviators is any indication of their willingness to correct mistakes then I wouldn't hold my breath.
@@PolishRadom1944 How much plastic is there that you all seem to suddenly know about or claim to be not present in the pre models ? Also since when does having plastic mean it's bad, when that plastic would outlast most other materials especially in a harsh environment and is easier to clean off, heck the plastic isn't even the real problem here.
Ive been listening, and laughing, at everyone online and some I know personally bragging "I have my Bronco reservation/ordered". Anyone with any sense knows you need to wait 2-3 yrs for a totally new, from the ground up vehicle because of the time it takes for all the issues to develop and recalls to fix those issues. Kind of like volunteering to take a vaccine the first year that it's developed that hasn't had years of trials to be sure it is safe 💉👍 TFL will be able to get theirs fixed quicker because of videos like this one. The rest of people that don't have a large vehicle review channel will surely have to live with it for a while, maybe as long as they own the vehicle. Not hating on the Bronco but really surprised how so many "car people" have immediately jumped on board with ordering a vehicle that will be new from the ground up. These are off-road vehicles. They flex and they are expected to do more than just ride up and down the road. Stop acting like you are shocked that they don't act like luxury cars.
@@john7m7usa Why would people not being in rush to immediately buy a new vehicle stop vehicles from being produced? And you don't have to worry about it. There will always be a lot of people who will be too impatient to wait. Just saying if you don't like dealing with newly developed vehicle issues, especially in the $60,000+ range, maybe try to be patient enough to let them get the issues worked out first 👍
Reminds me of the quality cars and trucks that came out of Detroit in the late 70s and early 80s. Misaligned panels, headliner falling apart, squeaking from random places. No way on earth I’d pay 63k for this vehicle.
Not a criticism, but life experience informs us that more complications = more problems. Same for unnecessary Falcon Doors, Targas, T-Tops, Pano Roofs and power assist of any sort.
How complicated is it to make a plastic panel fit, or to not have peeling felt? It's pretty basic manufacturing on the part of Ford. They've probably had experience a zillion times over with similar pieces. In my theory, Ford just wanted to get the things out to itchy customers. They weren't concerned about quality. They can fix problems later anyways.
My 2018 Mustang Gt was bought with 7 miles on it. When going over certain bumps and dips there was a squeak that would come from the passenger side rear. Drove me nuts. One day I went with the fee-ounce-say to Costco to buy a bunch of drinks for a party. We loaded the truck up with liquid heaviness and drove home. The next day I back out of the driver way, a move that would always make the squeak, and to my surprise - no noise!!!! I later found out that it was just brand new parts that had to be broken in and the weight and the 30 minute drive helped get everything into the right place.
Whats new with Ford? They've been doing it since the beginning of time with Henry Ford the first. Guy would go to the junkyard to see what parts still were salvageable, and then tell his engineers to make it cheaper and less durable. Its culture at Ford. Just helped my buddy put new turbos on his 2015 Ecoboost F150s and I could not believe how cheap the fittings and clamps were for it.
Now that over half of Tacomas and 4Runners are made in Mexico, yes, you can go wrong with Toyota. The Tacoma has gone from a top 5 most reliable vehicle to middle of the pack. Check the VIN before buying.
That’s no acceptable, also the Foam patches!! why are OEMs obsessed with solving squeak and rattle issues with NVH patches everywhere, they should solve root cause before customers experience any symptom of the issue.
@@mechmat12345 , it says Ford on the front . Once it leaves the factory, it’s fords baby . They did not know it was a issue ? It should have never left the factory!
Looking at the huge ad campaign Ford ran for the Bronco, and then see how they actually are fresh outta the factory, it's clear where the bulk of Ford's time, money, and efforts went
@@johnjobber2219 oh really?; what type plastic did they use? Do you have a new Bronco, or just talking out of an orifice? You do realize Ford evaluates all sorts of materials for these applications? They don't pick one because it squeaks! And also, sometimes a supplier makes a few that don't meet Ford specs before it gets caught. It may be a sub-supplier who makes the raw plastic, also at fault. Production at the Ford plant was held up because of roof issues. People are working on the problem, I have read. These early production vehicles, especially on an all-new vehicle not replacing an existing architecture, always have glitches like this. (Even Toyotas, but they often stay mum about theirs, with secret warranties you only find at the dealer's garage.)
When I was younger and less smart, I purchased the first year model of the second generation Toyota MR2 (1991). I was in the service bay so much the service guy knew my name when I drove in. I got rid of that car and purchased the first year of the redesigned Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX which was promptly repurchased under threat of lemon law because of issues. I learned my lesson....I then bought a 93 MR2 which had the suspension fix and was a great car. I'm waiting for the 2023 Bronco...
I think I’ll stick with my 4Runner and Tundra for a few more years. These stories remind me why we’ve kept them for so long. Wife’s is a 2011 with zero issues and my 2015 Tundra also has zero issues
When you see what these guys do with their new $63K vehicle off pavement, you wonder how they can complain about a minor squeak! Watch their videos with Bronco and Jeep comparison. They have too much money to communicate with us average folks. Imagine it ...... first thing out of their mouth to fix this squeak is to go buy a new SOFT top!! (not get out the WD-40)
Is it me, or does the felt on the panels “shed” every time you guys touch it? BTW, I live in Kodiak where everything that might fail-fails… I had a JK Willys hardtop, got it not-to-leak ONCE in 2 years. Over engineered, under developed modern junk.
The dust from the felt is just a little bit of dust from the manufacturing process, it will no longer do that within a few weeks of owning the vehicle.
I had a wrangler and the top fit poorly too. I think it’s the nature of A) American build quality B ) the nature of an off road convertible. My jeep used to leak too. I’m gonna bet this bronco does the same.
In short: if you REALLY want a Bronco, get the base model with the soft top and no options so there’s less additional parts to potentially rattle loose ha!
I'm really curious to see how it does in the freezing rain and snow. I've had endless problems with Subaru frameless doors and their windows freezing to the gasket and shattering when you force the door open. Looking at the new Bronco it looks like the door window will weld itself to the gasket in freezing weather.
I spray silicon lube on the door weather stripping for all my cars every winter and it helps them not stick when the temp drops. Also heard of people using veggie oil or something.
It is a technical term. People with that condition has shorter arms and legs compared to their torso. Midgets are the little people. Regular proportions but just smaller.
My 2016 Jeep Wrangler had issues with a creaking sound after a couple of months and it started leaking water not longer after. I went to the dealership several times and it was a bandaid. Now that the warranty is up I've bought a full cover for my Jeep for when it rains. It only leaks when I have the hardtop on, but surprisingly my soft top has no issues which is also made by Bestop.
When you look at the quality issues with Ford, Land Rover & Jeep products it’s easy to see why the old 4Runner still sells in crazy numbers with top resale values
@@justaguyonyoutube1937 Every seal on every car ever sold has to be maintained with silicone spray. It's in the master manuals and many glove box manuals.
@@justaguyonyoutube1937 1995 - I can't believe highway death wobble is still a thing in my Jeep. 2021 - I can't believe highway death wobble is still a thing in my Jeep.
I mean.....it's a Ford. Fords (especially over the past 6 years) have been quality nightmares. The Bronco suffers from the same shoddy engineering and build quality of all Fords. This is not surprising.
My first car purchase was a 1967 Ford Mustang Fastback GT that had a loud tap sound happen when making both right and left turns. Drove me crazy for about a year. After removing the interior body panels, I finally found an errant 1/2" socket rolling around in one of the rear air scoops. Socket had "FORD" engraved on it. Sorry that this doesn't help your situation.
I hope Ford is reading the comments, because I want them to know that based on this video and this rattle problem... I am no longer considering purchasing this vehicle under it's fixed in future models. By that time I will have likely purchased something else.
You do realize that Ford will have no problem selling these as fast as they can make them? It is definitely a problem that needs solved but this is what being an early adopter is about, you accept that some things are a work in progress and you may have to DIY solve some issues. Or just wait a few years instead of being the early adopter. Otherwise, if you buy something else the same applies, that if you get the latest and supposedly greatest new generation vehicle, it's going to have bugs to work out.
@@watershed44 fools who pay dealer mark up or e bay motors mark up so they can be the first to have one the rich kids will go on to the next big thing EV or what ever
@@coleyork7746 it matters because your paying top dollar for an out of date “new” vehicle. It’s underpowered and has worse fuel economy compared to its more modern competitors. Not only that it’s old so it’s less safe. It’s crash test rating isn’t as good as modern vehicles. Only thing it has going for it is the reliability.
ya these guys are kinda Jeep Wrangler fan boys and I guessed maybe on their (Jeeps) payroll giving "honest" criticism of the new Bronco. I could be wrong but I am skeptical. I agree the interior seems cheap but how does it really compare to a similarly priced Jeep Wrangler? I think I would get rid of that felt and maybe replace it with something of better quality. Ford is giving you that stuff for free anyway.
@@nursechase1 I just wanted to post my own personal experience. Going down a gravel road would annoy the hell out of me before the neoprene. It was also a fastener on one of the swivel latches that got loose. I took it apart, tightened the hex screw, loctite it, and put some neoprene between the surfaces. It’s just a thing with removable hard roofs in general. They squeak. TFL should provide better context on the issue.
@@ryanmartinage Thanks and your last sentence...Exactly one of my points with what info TFL has been delivering. It just seems they bash the new Bronco in a way like they are just being honest while not really showing the Jeep in the exact same light. That is why I always take their reviews with a grain of salt. I am skeptical they are in bed with the Jeep folks.
@@nursechase1 New Wranglers in that price range have very high quality interiors. Leather wrapped stitched dash, soft touch door panels etc… The bronco is all hard cheap plastic. Dont get me wrong it’s super cool, but they definitely cut alot of corners on material quality. The first one at my local dealer (driven by the mgr of the dealership) sits on the lot right now with missing exterior trim that appears to have fallen off. That one is a soft top and the rear side windows are so wrinkled its ridiculous.
As a suggestion, pull ALL the roof panels then re-install each individually until the noise reappears…that panel is your offender. Also, try different combinations of roof panels on/off the vehicle until the noise reappears.
I got one and I don’t have the issue, but I also have fully removed my top and reassembled it. I would bet you that the big rear section is loose. Check the bolts 🤙.
I have diagnosed OCD. I would've burnt my Bronco to the ground if I had that noise off the showroom floor, and get told by Ford they don't have a fix yet. Luckily, with 3 LX570s in the past 12 years for me, I've never heard a creak or a rattle.
My 2019 roush f150 had the same issue with the twin panel sunroof. I took it back to the dealer they checked it out and all they did was re-greased /lubed some parts and the sound went away
I can get over a cheap interior, but rattles and carpet falling off in a new car are unacceptable. If Ford would have said something like, “Our supplier screwed up, we are not satisfied with this, we will remedy it as soon as possible” they could have won a lot of favor back. But they didn’t, they stopped at blaming the supplier. And as Tommy rightly pointed out explaining why he just bought a Wrangler instead, it’s a Ford Bronco, not a Top Supplier Bronco.
That’s what happens when major manufacturers vend out most of the parts to Vendors and are not building in house With the old Quality Control ! They want to make it as cheap as possible and shove it out the door!
looked at the first ed is not even worth the msrp and some rich kids are paying $90-$109k sold prices on ebaymotors " I have to have the first one" some are trying to get $125,145,175k artificial infation of the. prices. was the same and the glad pu launch ed $15k over ford "Quality is not job one"
I think the UA-cam channel "Throttle House" report the same roof issue on a Bronco they tested... so this might be a common fault on the hard top which is a shame really.
@@drummeralex9198 I saw an offroad video about an FJ where the independent suspension design caused a front wheel to break off in the rocks. Jeep is pretty well tested out with their set-up.
when i heard that popcorn noise, all i could think about was that moment dan aykroyd screams “POPCORN!!” before john cusack puts his head through a tv in grosse pointe blank
I don’t understand why people love fords. Everyone I know has had problems from minor to catastrophic. Their diesels are even a scam; you can’t even trade in 6.0 some places. I do love the look and idea of the bronco. But that’s one squeaky ass new bronco a used old one might have less squeaks lol
Somebody should tell that kid don’t start cranking The wheel before the vehicle is moving, anybody with a brain knows that’s hard on the Power steering unit! DA
*Well they should have done that at the factory no? I mean people pay 64k and have to adjust tension on the clamps just to not have a noisy roof? That is ridiculous.*
After owning a new Jeep and then seeing the Bronco in real life, I can safely say that the Bronco looks and feels cheap compared to the jeep. Ford has some work to do!
Typical Dwarf Union problems. At the next arbitration they may address this problem.
Unions don't make bad designs. The Ford engineers and marketing team are the problem.
@@jerrybrooks7886 so true although unions cause a multitude of problems this isn’t one of them.
@@higg2156 Agree
@@jerrybrooks7886 Can't even make a simple joke without bringing on the trigger brigade. Geesh. :)
@@billhartley7971 That was a joke. Sorry, forgot to laugh. lol
Those creaks and squeaks don't bother most auto journalists who "test drive" cars. Thanks TFL for the real world review...anyone who has paid for a car that squeaks can feel your pain.
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Someone is booty hurt lol
@@brian8978 and you are ignorant
@@brian8978 you drive truck probably that's ment to be on car show not driving think that short bus kid
@AmericanPatriot14 you DNT have doors that can be on off and removable hard top just saying 😆
Props to you guys for showing REAL stuff. Not just positive vibes because you want to kiss up to ford
I've got 20+ years in the auto industry and have always advised people to WAIT to purchase a new model release until 2nd year, as it gives manufacturers more time to discover any issues/quirks/problems and then remedy them.
Ive heard this suggestion for years and it just makes sense.
Well with Ford, it's about 4 years.... They let the consumer be the guinea pigs. Hence why Toyota takes so damn long to build something new.
And I know this but as my wife reminded me I’ve done it twice. 2015 Hyundai Sonata Limited had the panoramic roof sound like lawn chairs in a station wagon. Multiple attempts at repair failed. Finally put an entire replacement and a year later the noise returned!!! Should of lemon lawd it!!!!!
For what it's worth, I recommend the 2nd model year of a new release for same reason mentioned in original post, but also because waiting until the 3rd model year or 4th when buying new, will leave you in a more negative equity situation, if the manufacturer releases an all new model every 4 years.
Hope that makes sense...
To be fair though if everyone waited till the second year there wouldn't be a second year.
That "headliner" looks like it was put on by kids during arts and crafts week using Elmer's glue. The rattle might be an issue because of the pillar delete for the extra open air experience.
Id take the pillar with speakers above my head like the Wrangler which I'm sure makes it more secure and less prone to rattling.
It seems like the rattles coming from one of the camlock‘s. I would suggest to try driving around with one cam lock in the open position so the cam can’t rattle against the locking plate. Then close camlock and re-open another one until you find the one that’s rattling. Once you find the bad cam lock you need to remove the locking plate that attaches to the body and put a a small rubber gasket or felt tape between the body of the vehicle and locking plate.This should make the camlock fit slightly tighter fit and hopefully eliminate the rattle. I’ve used felt tape to fix rattles on my vehicles in the past.
Just a shame that it’s over $60k for a vehicle with issues like this.
Danny, I agree. Put silicone grease everywhere.
@@drummeralex9198 it's also a brand new vehicle, first year production is gonna have some quality issues to work out. Ford has switched parts suppliers for the MIC top so hopefully newer models won't have this issue.
sounds like Ford needs your ingenuity.
@@BigBlueMean Good to hear they switched, that top supplier is literally damaging their Broncos reputation in many ways.
Crazy to watch all that felt drop into the air everytime you guys brushed against it
And to add to the carpet liner being cheap, it’s weird how at some point when Tommy was putting the top back on, you could see debri falling from the carpet liner. That in itself seems cheap
I saw this too, it’s like shedding all over the place. Makes me feel itchy just watching it. That will only get worse I bet with extreme heat in summer
Can't even be bothered to glue that junk on properly either.
I thought the same thing. This bronco needs some head and shoulders
lf this was in England the dealer would charge extra for the debris in the roof liner!!!!!!!!
I'll bet that liner was an option too... Imagine smh
I'm not ragging on the Wrangler, but the freedom tops on my jk leaked from day one here in Hawaii. I cured it when I bought the Bestop fold back convertible for them. No more leaks, with the added benefit of only two latches and not having to store any panels while I want some open air driving. Takes 5 seconds to shut and latch when I need to dodge the rain!
But how is the soft top in the snow and at minus 40?? Hahaha,,,,,,,, Hawaii,,,,, you are very fortunate indeed!! I am a Canadian, so we don’t have places quite so nice to live in that are part of the country,,,,,, I AM VERY JEALOUS!! Hahaha.
Soooo when you get a chance please. Let me know about the snow and ice!! Heh heh.
I actually already know and they are surprisingly good! Let a little more cold in, but the heater can keep up.
@@shitloveaduck been in the snow at the top of Mauna kea in blizzard! Not any different than the freedom tops
@@ChrisGramm - Awwwwww ya got me!! Heh heh. Forgot you had that kind of access,,,,,,,. I have to work harder on my geography!!
Thanks for sharing the information!! You are definitely fortunate!! Haha.
@@shitloveaduck not gonna lie... No regrets🤙🏼
My dad had a jku and the freedom top leaked inside the jeep and inside the panel itself, you could hear the water sloshing around. I found the problem was that on the side of the panel where it was pressed together, it had no seal and it allowed water to come in through the crack and leak through the area that you put the screw in, a long bead of rtv on all sides of the panel and it never leaked again and never heard any more sloshing. Btw freedom top panels can hold a couple gallons of water...
and that's why it would be awesome if there was a solid roof Bronco, Wrangler, etc. A lot of us have no real world use for removable roofs and rather have a solid roof for less squeaks, more shade and more carrying capacity.
Yesss, I would never remove the roofs so I prefer an actual welded roof
You right, for 63k their should be quality. You can make it rugged with quality….these are not mutually exclusive
This is really a 35-40k truck with 20k markup.
You want offroading and quality? NISSAN PATROL. TOYOTA LAND CRUISER.
@@urbannomad8126 those are very expensive. Like $90k expensive. And with the 2022 redesign of the land cruiser, and the loss of the V8 engines, expect the prices of the 2021 models to double. If you want reliable off road ability for cheap, the 4runner is your best option.
To Ford they are
for 63k you should have bought a BMW or … actually i dont know who makes good SUV
I canceled my order and got a 21 TRD pro Tacoma in lunar rock, I’m thankful that I did more and more everyday.
Smart decision.
Smart….because this is only the beginning
I think you have a very nice vehicle, but you pay so much for the “Pro” portion of the vehicle. If you are leaving it stock, then it’s not so bad. If you lift it, you threw the best part of the “Pro” package. Most of my friends have switched to the Ranger Tremor and are leaving it stock. It outperforms the stock TRD pro off-road just on the basis of physics. They are both nice trucks.
@@shitloveaduck Agreed. The only things I plan to change is the wheels and to add a desert air intake, not for function I just think they look cool. I live in the north so I need a vehicle with 4wd. I didn’t want a Pro but I did want the lunar rock color so it was a simple choice.
@@daria_morgandorffer5768 - You have a great toy then!! When you love your vehicle, they will always last longer!
the reason that the top rattles on a $63k vehicle is because people will buy a $63k vehicle with roof rattles.
Stupid is as stupid does.
BuT tHeY cAlLeD iT a BrOnCo.
And people will bitch about wind noise?
It is a PURPOSE BUILT VEHICLE!!! Not a grocery getter!! I own a 2022 2 door hardtop! It’s everything it should be!
You’re not the only one either. The guys over at Straightpipes had the same noise in the one they test drove.
That top looks like some DIY junk. Crazy they would sell that.
Embarrassing! This thing is like $60k!!!!
didn't you make that on your channel?!?!?! lmao!
It's deteriorating on almost all broncos....Major recall coming
It's the German company that makes those but they also make tops for Jeeps and other vehicles.
@@JeepersCreepers2013 yeah but there are only reports of the broncos tops falling apart big time.....Major recall ahead
That would drive me nuts! I had a Toyota 4 Runner 1989 SR5 with the full length resin top, took it off hundreds times on and off road and never had any issues with noise or wear and tear.
Of all of the squeaks and rattles my ‘76 FJ40 land cruiser has, none are from the removable hard top
@@tunedub same goes for my 77 hahaha
That’s because it’s a Toyota.
Big difference between Toyota quality and Ford.
That’s because Toyota makes quality products……. That get tested before leaving the factory. Too many suckers in this world that have to buy North American made junk. The big three make crap vehicles.
That’s pretty unacceptable for such an expensive vehicle.
That and the overall quality. I'm not surprised though. Ford has a history of good looking vehicles with just garbage materials and assembly. That sound damping is just cheap felting that sheds every time you look at it. The center console thing was hilarious.
As for the creaking, that is also not surprising. There are what, 5 panels on the top? They all have to lock and unlock and there is going to be movement. Likely you could tighten the release levers and it would help. Or put some felt in-between the layers. But you shouldn't have to....
It's the same top that comes on the $30k version. I have a problem with complaining about quality-for-price when you intentionally seek out the most expensive version of a relatively inexpensive vehicle.
@@mechmat12345 unacceptable for a 30k vehicle
It's a Ford at the end of the day🤙I had a 1990 Ford Bronco 5.8 engine and it wasn't making no rattling noise or made cheap, its 2021 and Ford, GM and Dodge care only about profit and making them with very cheap materials
@@mechmat12345 my Toyota’s cheaper and doesn’t have noise issues. If the top’s apart of your cars design cool, but I still expect it to behave like a normal car. I have a base cheaper version Toyota with a sunroof that’s older and it doesn’t make odd noises.
So, my Bronco was built on 7/21. It (along with many others) has been stuck "in production" (dealer verified its built) as its currently going through a thorough, QC. Ford has recognized a multitude of issues with the MIC and hopes to catch/resolve them before any future, deliveries.
That’s pretty interesting!! Hope it works out for you.
@@shitloveaduck I hope so too. It's been an absolute, roller coaster regarding these Bronco's. It's like, I want it to get here asap, but on the other hand I kind of want them to take their time on QC. So, the Broncos awaiting QC have filled up about 3 lots outside of MAP. Once QC is complete, they authorize release, our trackers get updated with built, shipped along with an ETA.
@@desertmike680 - That’s really cool actually.
This was my biggest worry. The roof rattling or creaks & squeaks... That would drive me absolutely nuts!
I like how Tommy was focusing the camera on the squeaky part of car but Dad decides to focus camera on Tomys face whole time waiting for it to squek 😀😀🙏
Tommy is such a tool. So annoying.
Seriously, the quality of the top alone would be a deal breaker for me.
yes it would
A $60k plus vehicle is a deal breaker for me.
Well, the first rule of new car buying is avoid first year of production of new models unless you like spending time at the dealership. I was a Honda tech back in '93 when the Del Sol came out, and every single one we sold came back multiple times for roof rattles and leaks. Eventually Honda redesigned the seals completely, which finally fixed the issues, but it took over a year.
That top looks like it was made in high school auto shop
@@Timmayytoo i had similar rattling issues with two fords i purchased that had been out so long they were about to be redesigned.
Been watching this channel for years. I also think about how cool it would be to work with your child/dad! Love their relationship and love the content! Keep up the great work!
Yeah, those noises on brand new vehicles can really be frustrating! Had it on my first 2017 F350 King Ranch.
BTRV your content rocks! Thanks for great entertainment and info. God bless TX!
First world problems 😱 my ❤️ is break breaking for ye🤣😂🤣
@@casey2009 yeah truly is but hey I hope to get one of these way down the road when I can afford them so the more they critique and improve the design will benefit everyone else down the road haha
Yeah my King Ranch had some sunroof noises.
I also have a king ranch f350🤩 rarely see them anymore
I'm more concerned with all the particles falling when you slightly brush the roof.
No kidding. You could literally buy a 6 dollar carpet, cut it up, and have better quality insulation.
Should have used a type of Rhino liner spray on material
Ford Bronco is built on U.S. soil at Michigan Assembly Plant in Wayne, Michigan. The plant employs more than 3,000 American workers that just dont care anymore... truck looks like it was made in a third world country
@@philtripe except the top isn’t made by Ford…
The rattles and squeaks are a trademark of Ford quality
As the owner of a 16 mustang since new..... Can confirm
“Some weird ass Squeak coming from the back” - best comment of vid! 😂
Maybe it was coming out of their ….?
Getting real asbestos vibes with how much dust is falling off that felt roof with the slightest touch
Facts
10 years from now.
" Have you or your loved ones been in contact with Bronco roof dust?"
@@728GT 😭🤣🤣🤣
😂
😂😂😂
You guys almost need to take a vacuum to that sound reduction material on the top. There’s bits of material falling off every time you touch it.
Great idea
not even my truck, but it was bothering me.
@@countreekidd Yeah, I feel for Roman. I think he paid $63-69K? Shit man, I'l return the truck if I were him. 😁
That dust coming off the roof would drive me insane.
made i USA. hahaha
They're just staying true to the original.
I would've preferred a V8 if it's gonna rattle like my old 75 did 😒
@@AwholvNation True that!
Absolutely! It ain't a FORD vehicle without these built issues, and recalls to come. 😂
Never buy the first year of anything. LOL. Rattling top or highway death wobble, the choice is yours!
I’ll take a rattling top any day over the death wobble! That top is a simple fix on a removable part!
Exactly
But this is why TFL buys these vehicles as long term tests - so we find out the issues as they come out.
@@h20bobo I mean for the public buyer in general. TFL did a public service which will make the product better.
@Tron Apostle Yep, you can have the rattling top Bronco or you can choose the death wobble Jeep. The choice is yours!
Yes, thank you, TFL, for bringing up these types of issues that are usually swept under the rug, or shrugged off as being too minor to address. When you spend your hard-earned money on a car, you dont want a popping or squeeking noise right above your head, or anywhere in the car, for that matter! I am surprised that the Ford Engineers didn't spot this issue, while driving around the country, testing these cars.
Exactly.
the plastic roof looks like the same quality as my rubbermaid storage bins
And my trash can…😂
LMFAO!!!
Fun fact is it's the same material.
@@JF32304 ..the "same quality" is the issue.
@@HemiBurns it's Ford, what do you expect.
Ford really needs to address their "chime". It sounds cheap and been around for over 10 years.
Drives me nuts as well.
Yeah, I haven't wanted to punch a car so bad since the 1980s "talking car" era.
When I was purchasing my last vehicle, the Ford chime and other electronics set up helped me decide to not buy Ford. It really needs and update. Radical Idea, how about letting car owners pick from a variety of sound/chime schemes. You can do that with a 100.00 GPS, why not a 50,000.00 vehicle?
How to tell people have no real problems in their life: they complain about a car chime.
@@cavscout678 How to tell a butt hurt Ford fan boy.. 🤠
“You should hear what my old British car sounds like”.
Cue train whistle. 😂
My 2015 Edge Sport cost 46K new and since day one the armrest squeeked. Five years later? Still there. Ford quality is job #42. The fist 41 jobs are profit margin based
On behalf of all Canada, let me apologize to you because the EDGE is built in the OAKVILLE ONTARIO Lemon factory.
@@mikefoehr235 That's very Canadian of you. I'm sorry you had to apologize on behalf of Ford. Good day, eh!
I have a 2018 raptor and have not had a squeak out of it, I’m keeping my fingers crossed as this is the first Ford I have ever purchased. 🙏🏻
@@billyorlando4724 The first and only Ford my wife and I had was a 97 Taurus. It needed 2 engines, would have needed a 3rd Transmissions and a COSTCO shopping cart of other parts. Toyota was our savior.
Sure glad we own 2 H-D Santa FE's never had a squeak or rattle in ,out or under ...
OMG that would drive me absolutely INSANE!
Ford should have this fixed in about 4 years and 10 recalls later 😑
If the recalls for the rattle in my Transit are an indicator of anything, the recall will not fix it and the dealer will keep rescheduling you when you show up for your appointment because the "don't have the correct glue".
If their repair of the cracked panels on virtually all 2002-2005 Explorers, Mountaineers and Aviators is any indication of their willingness to correct mistakes then I wouldn't hold my breath.
I have seen some cheap interiors before but Ford gets the award on the Bronco for the most hard plastic everywhere
Those original promo vehicle interiors were gorgeous, this crap they put into a 60K+ vehicle is down right unacceptable.
@@PolishRadom1944 How much plastic is there that you all seem to suddenly know about or claim to be not present in the pre models ? Also since when does having plastic mean it's bad, when that plastic would outlast most other materials especially in a harsh environment and is easier to clean off, heck the plastic isn't even the real problem here.
@@raionshishi8290 no where in my response did I say anything about plastic...
Ive been listening, and laughing, at everyone online and some I know personally bragging "I have my Bronco reservation/ordered". Anyone with any sense knows you need to wait 2-3 yrs for a totally new, from the ground up vehicle because of the time it takes for all the issues to develop and recalls to fix those issues. Kind of like volunteering to take a vaccine the first year that it's developed that hasn't had years of trials to be sure it is safe 💉👍 TFL will be able to get theirs fixed quicker because of videos like this one. The rest of people that don't have a large vehicle review channel will surely have to live with it for a while, maybe as long as they own the vehicle. Not hating on the Bronco but really surprised how so many "car people" have immediately jumped on board with ordering a vehicle that will be new from the ground up.
These are off-road vehicles. They flex and they are expected to do more than just ride up and down the road. Stop acting like you are shocked that they don't act like luxury cars.
💯
Soooooo if everyone waits, there would never be new vehicles! Ever. Think about it. Great solution!
i'm just counting my blessing on order being pushed well into 2022
@Baker - Hahaha!!
@@john7m7usa Why would people not being in rush to immediately buy a new vehicle stop vehicles from being produced? And you don't have to worry about it. There will always be a lot of people who will be too impatient to wait. Just saying if you don't like dealing with newly developed vehicle issues, especially in the $60,000+ range, maybe try to be patient enough to let them get the issues worked out first 👍
Reminds me of the quality cars and trucks that came out of Detroit in the late 70s and early 80s. Misaligned panels, headliner falling apart, squeaking from random places. No way on earth I’d pay 63k for this vehicle.
Crackheads working on the lines...finding trash inside your doors when replacing glass is not uncommon.
Wait until the chip shortage is behind us and you can pick this thing up for $40K….or less
Not a criticism, but life experience informs us that more complications = more problems.
Same for unnecessary Falcon Doors, Targas, T-Tops, Pano Roofs and power assist of any sort.
Those look like incredibly simple latches to me
Exactly
@@stevemartegani Spray silicone all around the latches, side of tops and mounting surface.
It could be the latch pivot. Or the roof panels rubbing themselves.
I give it 4 stars
How complicated is it to make a plastic panel fit, or to not have peeling felt? It's pretty basic manufacturing on the part of Ford. They've probably had experience a zillion times over with similar pieces. In my theory, Ford just wanted to get the things out to itchy customers. They weren't concerned about quality. They can fix problems later anyways.
It's like having the first pancake
Lol what?
Yes!
Burnt 🥵
Hahaha! Damn good analogy.
My first pancake is usually the best one
My 2018 Mustang Gt was bought with 7 miles on it. When going over certain bumps and dips there was a squeak that would come from the passenger side rear. Drove me nuts. One day I went with the fee-ounce-say to Costco to buy a bunch of drinks for a party. We loaded the truck up with liquid heaviness and drove home. The next day I back out of the driver way, a move that would always make the squeak, and to my surprise - no noise!!!!
I later found out that it was just brand new parts that had to be broken in and the weight and the 30 minute drive helped get everything into the right place.
Exactly why I'll wait for them to work out the bugs before I purchase.
And price to settle a little bit
Just buy a toyota.
Just buy a Jeep
Just buy a Honda
Just buy…..anything….else
That is so annoying and definitely baked into it from the factory. I'll take it off your hands for $10k. Serious buyer!
I will double that offer.
it's like they cut corners in every imaginable way on the new bronco... im glad i didn't pre-order one. this went from my next vehicle to a hard pass
Best to stay away from ford anyways. They dont know how to do anything BUT cut corners.
Completely agree. Cost cutting is evident everywhere on this thing. Absolutely insane junk
Whats new with Ford? They've been doing it since the beginning of time with Henry Ford the first. Guy would go to the junkyard to see what parts still were salvageable, and then tell his engineers to make it cheaper and less durable. Its culture at Ford. Just helped my buddy put new turbos on his 2015 Ecoboost F150s and I could not believe how cheap the fittings and clamps were for it.
@@bcatz454 Bingo, I own a f150 as well and just replaced the whole variable valve timing systems. Because every 5.4l v8 WILL FAIL
Now that over half of Tacomas and 4Runners are made in Mexico, yes, you can go wrong with Toyota. The Tacoma has gone from a top 5 most reliable vehicle to middle of the pack. Check the VIN before buying.
That’s no acceptable, also the Foam patches!! why are OEMs obsessed with solving squeak and rattle issues with NVH patches everywhere, they should solve root cause before customers experience any symptom of the issue.
OEMs? This is a Webasto problem. Their mistake was picking a bad company, not building a bad product.
@@mechmat12345 , it says Ford on the front . Once it leaves the factory, it’s fords baby . They did not know it was a issue ? It should have never left the factory!
Breathing in those synthetic fibers can not be good for anyone’s health. That’s more alarming to me than the roof rattle.
Morgellon's sufferers new nightmare 😳
Looking at the huge ad campaign Ford ran for the Bronco, and then see how they actually are fresh outta the factory, it's clear where the bulk of Ford's time, money, and efforts went
63k! Yikes, I would be at the dealership every week until that was fixed.
Th plastic materials used are terrible
I'd be at the dealership returning the over priced turd
@@johnjobber2219 oh really?; what type plastic did they use? Do you have a new Bronco, or just talking out of an orifice?
You do realize Ford evaluates all sorts of materials for these applications? They don't pick one because it squeaks!
And also, sometimes a supplier makes a few that don't meet Ford specs before it gets caught. It may be a sub-supplier who makes the raw plastic, also at fault. Production at the Ford plant was held up because of roof issues. People are working on the problem, I have read.
These early production vehicles, especially on an all-new vehicle not replacing an existing architecture, always have glitches like this. (Even Toyotas, but they often stay mum about theirs, with secret warranties you only find at the dealer's garage.)
@@melissaclark4912 I’ll do you one better I wouldn’t have even walked on the lot of a Ford dealership in the first place.
Agreed big time!!!
Great video to see how Ford folks respond to these quality issues. Btw, everyone hates popcorn ceilings lol.
Takes off top, "i think that fixed the problem!" LOL. NICE!
Instead of handling by Lotus it has roof by Lotus.
Is it possible to get this vehicle without a removable top? With just a solid regular cab?
Nope
When I was younger and less smart, I purchased the first year model of the second generation Toyota MR2 (1991). I was in the service bay so much the service guy knew my name when I drove in. I got rid of that car and purchased the first year of the redesigned Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX which was promptly repurchased under threat of lemon law because of issues.
I learned my lesson....I then bought a 93 MR2 which had the suspension fix and was a great car. I'm waiting for the 2023 Bronco...
Only 63K. What were you expecting at such a bargain price?
Keep paying these OUTRAGES prices people!
Those outrageous prices do outrage me
I think I’ll stick with my 4Runner and Tundra for a few more years. These stories remind me why we’ve kept them for so long. Wife’s is a 2011 with zero issues and my 2015 Tundra also has zero issues
When you see what these guys do with their new $63K vehicle off pavement, you wonder how they can complain about a minor squeak! Watch their videos with Bronco and Jeep comparison.
They have too much money to communicate with us average folks. Imagine it ...... first thing out of their mouth to fix this squeak is to go buy a new SOFT top!!
(not get out the WD-40)
The clicking feature in morse code for "shoulda bought a Toyota".
Toyota should make the fj again.
Didn’t know Toyota made a 4wd convertible
my buddys tacoma just threw a rod in the engine.....not all toyotas are great
Seriously sounds identical to the noise the pleated shades in the overhead bunk area made in the RV a couple decades ago. Way to go Ford!
Is it me, or does the felt on the panels “shed” every time you guys touch it? BTW, I live in Kodiak where everything that might fail-fails… I had a JK Willys hardtop, got it not-to-leak ONCE in 2 years. Over engineered, under developed modern junk.
It’s not only you…seen this on other Bronco UA-cam channels
The dust from the felt is just a little bit of dust from the manufacturing process, it will no longer do that within a few weeks of owning the vehicle.
@@MineGames131 And you know this... how?
My father works for ford and has a pre/early production Bronco.
You ever see how much crap is in the air you're breathing when a ray of sunlight shines through your living room window ? LOL
I had a wrangler and the top fit poorly too. I think it’s the nature of A) American build quality B ) the nature of an off road convertible. My jeep used to leak too. I’m gonna bet this bronco does the same.
In 2008 I bought a new 2 dr wrangler sport S with the freedom top. Never a squeak or rattle, or a leak in the years I owned it.
Channels like yours create the kind of pressure that make this go away faster.
Ford been having all kinds of roof issues, leaks and what not
In short: if you REALLY want a Bronco, get the base model with the soft top and no options so there’s less additional parts to potentially rattle loose ha!
Just ordered one
@@jasonpaiva4793 nice . like the 2door no soft top opt how come ford????
I'm really curious to see how it does in the freezing rain and snow. I've had endless problems with Subaru frameless doors and their windows freezing to the gasket and shattering when you force the door open. Looking at the new Bronco it looks like the door window will weld itself to the gasket in freezing weather.
I spray silicon lube on the door weather stripping for all my cars every winter and it helps them not stick when the temp drops. Also heard of people using veggie oil or something.
I usually just bonk the window slightly around the edge, I haven't broken my window yet and it seems to work okay.
@@Ghost-vr5zg but then they can't find things to pretend to complain about
well it actually leaks at rain though
There is a news article about how Broncos are also making whistling sounds from the top and the grille at high speeds.
The dwarfs whistle while they work.
Jeep’s don’t go fast enough to hear all the rattles
Only in particular models. And actual dB tests have shown they are about the same sound level as a Wrangler.
Thanks for the review. ARGH! Something seemingly so simple, Great quality control Ford!
“It’s not dwarves, it’s LITTLE PEOPLE, YA GOT THAT?” - Mickey Abbot from Seinfeld
It is a technical term. People with that condition has shorter arms and legs compared to their torso. Midgets are the little people. Regular proportions but just smaller.
The inside of the hardtop is atrocious. Looks homemade.
This is why I never buy a first year model, thankfully we have TFL to report these issues so we can avoid them. Love you TFL
My 2016 Jeep Wrangler had issues with a creaking sound after a couple of months and it started leaking water not longer after. I went to the dealership several times and it was a bandaid. Now that the warranty is up I've bought a full cover for my Jeep for when it rains. It only leaks when I have the hardtop on, but surprisingly my soft top has no issues which is also made by Bestop.
You know it's bad when Land Rover owners are laughing at it.
Sure, but I cant hear him laughing because hes stuck all the way up the trail with 2 pinch flats.
When you look at the quality issues with Ford, Land Rover & Jeep products it’s easy to see why the old 4Runner still sells in crazy numbers with top resale values
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Is that the roof felt falling every time you touch it?
Take the panels off. Spray all the edges with silicon spray. Put it all back and , voila...:-)
Great fix but, you shouldn't have to do that when you buy something brand new off the lot from the factory.
@@justaguyonyoutube1937 Every seal on every car ever sold has to be maintained with silicone spray. It's in the master manuals and many glove box manuals.
You tried it on new Bronco?
@@justaguyonyoutube1937 1995 - I can't believe highway death wobble is still a thing in my Jeep. 2021 - I can't believe highway death wobble is still a thing in my Jeep.
Make sure to test the silicone spray on an area not visible sometimes they react with different plastics and make it look awful
I mean.....it's a Ford. Fords (especially over the past 6 years) have been quality nightmares. The Bronco suffers from the same shoddy engineering and build quality of all Fords. This is not surprising.
My first car purchase was a 1967 Ford Mustang Fastback GT that had a loud tap sound happen when making both right and left turns. Drove me crazy for about a year. After removing the interior body panels, I finally found an errant 1/2" socket rolling around in one of the rear air scoops. Socket had "FORD" engraved on it. Sorry that this doesn't help your situation.
I hope Ford is reading the comments, because I want them to know that based on this video and this rattle problem... I am no longer considering purchasing this vehicle under it's fixed in future models. By that time I will have likely purchased something else.
You do realize that Ford will have no problem selling these as fast as they can make them? It is definitely a problem that needs solved but this is what being an early adopter is about, you accept that some things are a work in progress and you may have to DIY solve some issues. Or just wait a few years instead of being the early adopter. Otherwise, if you buy something else the same applies, that if you get the latest and supposedly greatest new generation vehicle, it's going to have bugs to work out.
@@stinkycheese804 Wait until the first wave of buyers have remorse...they will quickly be sitting on the lots looking for buyers in a year or so.
@@watershed44 fools who pay dealer mark up or e bay motors mark up so they can be the first to have one the rich kids will go on to the next big thing EV or what ever
Maybe Ford should just make a fixed roof model !
I would love that!! My first car was an old Bronco II - two-door - fixed roof. It could barely go 65 on the highway, but I still miss it.
That kinda defeats the purpose of a freedom top or ruins it ya know.
63k on hype. Good you guys got the video out on flaws. 👏
After seeing this, I'm even more pleased that I bought a 2020 4Runner.
Lol. And you didn't even wait for the new one?? Driving a brand new, 8 year old truck 👍🏻
@@erich1880 Does it really matter how old it is when it’ll hold up better than anything new? New cars are sometimes far worse
@@coleyork7746 it matters because your paying top dollar for an out of date “new” vehicle. It’s underpowered and has worse fuel economy compared to its more modern competitors. Not only that it’s old so it’s less safe. It’s crash test rating isn’t as good as modern vehicles. Only thing it has going for it is the reliability.
My JLU hardtop makes a lot of noise as well. I ended up putting some neoprene everywhere up top under any surface I could. Helped a bunch.
ya these guys are kinda Jeep Wrangler fan boys and I guessed maybe on their (Jeeps) payroll giving "honest" criticism of the new Bronco. I could be wrong but I am skeptical. I agree the interior seems cheap but how does it really compare to a similarly priced Jeep Wrangler? I think I would get rid of that felt and maybe replace it with something of better quality. Ford is giving you that stuff for free anyway.
@@nursechase1 I just wanted to post my own personal experience. Going down a gravel road would annoy the hell out of me before the neoprene. It was also a fastener on one of the swivel latches that got loose. I took it apart, tightened the hex screw, loctite it, and put some neoprene between the surfaces. It’s just a thing with removable hard roofs in general. They squeak. TFL should provide better context on the issue.
@@ryanmartinage Thanks and your last sentence...Exactly one of my points with what info TFL has been delivering. It just seems they bash the new Bronco in a way like they are just being honest while not really showing the Jeep in the exact same light. That is why I always take their reviews with a grain of salt. I am skeptical they are in bed with the Jeep folks.
@@nursechase1 New Wranglers in that price range have very high quality interiors. Leather wrapped stitched dash, soft touch door panels etc… The bronco is all hard cheap plastic. Dont get me wrong it’s super cool, but they definitely cut alot of corners on material quality. The first one at my local dealer (driven by the mgr of the dealership) sits on the lot right now with missing exterior trim that appears to have fallen off. That one is a soft top and the rear side windows are so wrinkled its ridiculous.
And here I thought I was the only other guy under 50 with the train whistle notification sound 😂
As a suggestion, pull ALL the roof panels then re-install each individually until the noise reappears…that panel is your offender. Also, try different combinations of roof panels on/off the vehicle until the noise reappears.
This guy gets it!!
I got one and I don’t have the issue, but I also have fully removed my top and reassembled it. I would bet you that the big rear section is loose. Check the bolts 🤙.
I have diagnosed OCD. I would've burnt my Bronco to the ground if I had that noise off the showroom floor, and get told by Ford they don't have a fix yet. Luckily, with 3 LX570s in the past 12 years for me, I've never heard a creak or a rattle.
That’s because Toyota would never release junk.
My 2019 roush f150 had the same issue with the twin panel sunroof. I took it back to the dealer they checked it out and all they did was re-greased /lubed some parts and the sound went away
Anything Roush is involved with will be junk
I can get over a cheap interior, but rattles and carpet falling off in a new car are unacceptable. If Ford would have said something like, “Our supplier screwed up, we are not satisfied with this, we will remedy it as soon as possible” they could have won a lot of favor back. But they didn’t, they stopped at blaming the supplier. And as Tommy rightly pointed out explaining why he just bought a Wrangler instead, it’s a Ford Bronco, not a Top Supplier Bronco.
That’s what happens when major manufacturers vend out most of the parts to Vendors and are not building in house With the old Quality Control ! They want to make it as cheap as possible and shove it out the door!
That’s what happens on initial production run Fords. They’ve got a great track record of using the consumer to figure out issues…
NEVER buy a new model year vehicle. Especially from Ford, GM, and Chrysler.
You mean Fiat.. or is it Stellantis now
looked at the first ed is not even worth the msrp and some rich kids are paying $90-$109k sold prices on ebaymotors " I have to have the first one" some are trying to get $125,145,175k artificial infation of the. prices. was the same and the glad pu launch ed $15k over ford "Quality is not job one"
I think the UA-cam channel "Throttle House" report the same roof issue on a Bronco they tested... so this might be a common fault on the hard top which is a shame really.
Yep they said the same thing, and honestly this alone would make me buy a Jeep even though I do prefer the Bronco
@@patrickmartin3322 They also said the Bronco was the winner between the two.
@@therealjohnsmith4811 because of the independent suspension. It made driving much more pleasant.
@@drummeralex9198 I saw an offroad video about an FJ where the independent suspension design caused a front wheel to break off in the rocks. Jeep is pretty well tested out with their set-up.
😂 Sounds like a typewriter. I was waiting to hear the “ding” 🔔
when i heard that popcorn noise, all i could think about was that moment dan aykroyd screams “POPCORN!!” before john cusack puts his head through a tv in grosse pointe blank
If my '68 Bronco interior sounded like that when I drove around I would be thrilled 😂
I don’t understand why people love fords. Everyone I know has had problems from minor to catastrophic. Their diesels are even a scam; you can’t even trade in 6.0 some places. I do love the look and idea of the bronco. But that’s one squeaky ass new bronco a used old one might have less squeaks lol
We’ve all seen the videos of guys driving these for months testing them off road. How could Ford possibly miss this?
GT350 owners with blown engines are asking themselves the same thing.
With all the hype Ford had to release them with no more delays. Greed and no concern for the customer. Imagine what else will show up later.
@@blang38 You can bet Ford will now have TSB for this problem.
@@bextar6365 tell the customer turn up the radio
Fix
Or
Repair
Daily
Love how this is a father & son team!
Somebody should tell that kid don’t start cranking The wheel before the vehicle is moving, anybody with a brain knows that’s hard on the Power steering unit! DA
I think you can adjust the tension of the movable clamps (as on the Wrangler).
*Well they should have done that at the factory no? I mean people pay 64k and have to adjust tension on the clamps just to not have a noisy roof? That is ridiculous.*
My buddy works at fords he said the bronco is going to have a lot of problems for the first two years..
That why I bought extended warranty 👍🏽
Your videos are getting better. I like this real world stuff.
After owning a new Jeep and then seeing the Bronco in real life, I can safely say that the Bronco looks and feels cheap compared to the jeep. Ford has some work to do!
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That fiat square on wheels is better? 🤡 not from what I saw it’s not.
I thought the same. My 20 Rubicon is way better….
@@scottbott8525 Saw your Fiat square on wheels being outperformed by a 10 yo 4Runner in comfort, noise and drivability for half the price. 🤡👍
@@scottbott8525good choice 👍👍👍