Brilliant video, mine was the crank sensor, removed it and found all debris on it. Cleaned it and refitted. After a long crank of 10 seconds it started.
you are KILLING me!!! before watching I went though everything you did. .... and got EXACTLY the same results!!! But now I'm back at "it won't start" Thanks for documenting my FAILED efforts and hope I stumble onto some solution in your comments. (I'm complaining, but thanks genuinely for the vids!)
02 2.5L N/A Impreza engine in my VW Vanagon. Cold crank/no start x2. No spark/no injector pulse. Had cam and crank signals at the ECU connector. It was the ECU x2.Have a spare ECU now.
Just went through this on my 2007 Subaru Impreza doing pretty much the same thing you did. I finally isolated it a weak battery. The cranking voltage on mine dropped to almost 10 volts. I only figured it out because after cranking repeatedly I had to throw the battery charger on it. Every time after that when it wouldn't start, I would put the charger on and charge it to for about 30 minutes @6amps. Magically it started every single time.
Same. It could start perfectly for months without issues, be at the grocery store, and acts completely dead. Jump it, or charge at home, and she's good...... Until she's not.
Could be fuel pump? I had this same problem, i just kept turning the key on and off(making sure i could hear the fuel pump turn on each time i turned on) then after that ill try start it and pump the accelerator until it goes. If it doesn't ill just repeat above steps until it did lol
Question Sorry for bothering you but I just changed the engine in my 2009 subaru forester with a engine from a 2009 subaru outback and now do not have spark? Any ideas on why ? The engine ran while in the outback before the swap Everything plugged in and looked the same *both are 2009* so i didn't think anything would be different between them Any help would be greatly appreciated 🙏
I came here cause my 2015 OB is doing the exact same thing. Was hoping to get answers but you gave me nothing! Lol. But mine doesnt do it all the time. Maybe like 1 out of every 10 starts, it takes over 5 seconds before engine fires
I know this is old but my sounds exactly like this bought a new crank sensor to see if that worked and nothing no signs from the rpm gauge if you could tell me something to try i would be more than appreciated
Just an fyi. Ive seen this problem many times on other makes, Nissans, Holdens/Opels etc it even happens to some motorbikes too. Its caused by bore wash, due to the short cold start and shut down. Most cylinders if not all will have no or low compression due to the oil film being washed off the bores. Notice how it sounded a bit like the timing belt had snapped at the start?
Huh. Well I'll be darned. I don't know what to say about that! Judging by Charlie's input, he knows better than any of us! The deeper you got into it, the more noise he made, until you went to put the old crank sensor back in, then he got quiet. ;)
In the military flying C-141’s this would be known as a Lockheed fix! Great vid my neighbor has been asking help on his Subaru of which I’m not that familiar. Hey why the long face?! 🤣
I just hate chasing a gremlin around the engine compartment. The little buggers get into the smallest places and cause all sorts of issues. Well it looks like you chased that one away. Always a good time watching you tinker around....Next time open a beer, it really does help. cheers mate -John P.S. Charlie is so cute!
Someone must have fed the mogwai after dark. Gone for now and at least I know where to look when it comes back. Charlie is awesome. Poor kid gets caught up in all kinds of different activities! Cheers John
Frustrating man! I just changed the spark plugs and ignition coils on my 2012 Subaru Tribeca, after which it wouldn't start. Ended up just holding the gas pedal down while cranking it for about 20 seconds (3x each), and eventually she fired up!
thumbs up on getting it to live but it seems you may have a intermittent fault in the crank sensor or the wiring good luck hope you pick up a extra crank sensor to play safe
What a strange problem that was Badger. And it sure looks like the new crank sensor was bad. Might break down again in the future, but at least she's running now :)
I have a 2005 Subaru Legacy GT Limited. (Turbo) well i was driving home outside temp 73 F. The other night. (191,000 miles on car) Car dies. Just cranks now i replaced the crankshaft sensor. No difference. It back fires when i crank it also. Pulled an injector and got sprayed by hissing fuel. I am stumped at this point any info. Would be appreciated. Its a family car and I only have my motorcycle left. So we are stuck at the house.
Do timing jumped a tooth or two I'm telling you that and check all your grounds real good and you check your your alternator may be surprised you could really make the car do this but 90% sure it's your tining
A faulty CPS is not out of the list of possibilities but that usually only happens when the engine is warmed up-hot...Or it might have just got the shits and needed someone to finger it and swear at it a bit like all ECU engines do form time to time...Example #1...BMW 318i is still running sweet the guy says.?..I've got no answer to that one either.
Shit. I was a bit late to the punch with suggestions. How odd. Either that original sensor is on the way out or there's a wiring issue and disturbing them cleared it up. How annoying. Eric O and scanner danner never have to contend with screaming babies when they are diagnosing shit. haha
I think the sensor is probably on the way out. I gave the wiring a good test and it all checked out. Time will tell. The last minute addition of a baby when the other half gets called into work really adds to the puzzle!
Yeah, but Eric O loses subs every time his doorbell rings when a customer shows up. lol My guess here would be a bad connection somewhere - maybe some crud in a connector that got knocked loose, since nothing else was changed. Possibly a broken wire somewhere, but I'd expect that to show up more and more as you play with the harness, not less. :-)
Brilliant video, mine was the crank sensor, removed it and found all debris on it. Cleaned it and refitted. After a long crank of 10 seconds it started.
Where is the crank sensor located? My car ran for like 4 minutes and then shut off. Crank no turn on .
Under the midget horse.
you are KILLING me!!! before watching I went though everything you did. .... and got EXACTLY the same results!!! But now I'm back at "it won't start" Thanks for documenting my FAILED efforts and hope I stumble onto some solution in your comments. (I'm complaining, but thanks genuinely for the vids!)
😂
02 2.5L N/A Impreza engine in my VW Vanagon. Cold crank/no start x2. No spark/no injector pulse. Had cam and crank signals at the ECU connector. It was the ECU x2.Have a spare ECU now.
Just went through this on my 2007 Subaru Impreza doing pretty much the same thing you did. I finally isolated it a weak battery. The cranking voltage on mine dropped to almost 10 volts. I only figured it out because after cranking repeatedly I had to throw the battery charger on it. Every time after that when it wouldn't start, I would put the charger on and charge it to for about 30 minutes @6amps. Magically it started every single time.
Was your car throwing cam sensor & TPS codes as well?
I’m wondering the same thing
Same. It could start perfectly for months without issues, be at the grocery store, and acts completely dead. Jump it, or charge at home, and she's good...... Until she's not.
Could be fuel pump? I had this same problem, i just kept turning the key on and off(making sure i could hear the fuel pump turn on each time i turned on) then after that ill try start it and pump the accelerator until it goes. If it doesn't ill just repeat above steps until it did lol
Question
Sorry for bothering you but I just changed the engine in my 2009 subaru forester with a engine from a 2009 subaru outback and now do not have spark? Any ideas on why ? The engine ran while in the outback before the swap
Everything plugged in and looked the same *both are 2009* so i didn't think anything would be different between them
Any help would be greatly appreciated 🙏
I came here cause my 2015 OB is doing the exact same thing. Was hoping to get answers but you gave me nothing! Lol. But mine doesnt do it all the time. Maybe like 1 out of every 10 starts, it takes over 5 seconds before engine fires
I know this is old but my sounds exactly like this bought a new crank sensor to see if that worked and nothing no signs from the rpm gauge if you could tell me something to try i would be more than appreciated
How did you bypass the crank sensor to see if there is injector pulse test light to red terminal what wire do you touch to by pass
Yes, I'd like a confirmation on this too please.
Automobile's ??? Charlie fixed it with his Super Hero Powers!! Cheers Mate... 👍🏼👍🏼💯
That is the best explanation for sure! Cheers
Just an fyi.
Ive seen this problem many times on other makes, Nissans, Holdens/Opels etc it even happens to some motorbikes too. Its caused by bore wash, due to the short cold start and shut down. Most cylinders if not all will have no or low compression due to the oil film being washed off the bores. Notice how it sounded a bit like the timing belt had snapped at the start?
so how do you fix that
How do you fix bore wash?
Huh. Well I'll be darned. I don't know what to say about that!
Judging by Charlie's input, he knows better than any of us! The deeper you got into it, the more noise he made, until you went to put the old crank sensor back in, then he got quiet. ;)
Indeed, I have no idea! Maybe an intermittent fault with the sensor that has gone for now. The new part was clearly junk.
What was the problem?
maybe the crack sensor connector
In the military flying C-141’s this would be known as a Lockheed fix! Great vid my neighbor has been asking help on his Subaru of which I’m not that familiar. Hey why the long face?! 🤣
Sometimes engines just want to be fondled... a bit of attention so to speak. She's happy again now... for a while longer! :)
Great way to spend a day. Fixing problems that don't exist!
I have the exact same problem now. Changed crankshaft sensor and nothing
Did you ever get it running? If so what was it?
@@trevmartin307 nope.
@@jayming5565 and now ?
I just hate chasing a gremlin around the engine compartment. The little buggers get into the smallest places and cause all sorts of issues. Well it looks like you chased that one away. Always a good time watching you tinker around....Next time open a beer, it really does help. cheers mate -John P.S. Charlie is so cute!
Someone must have fed the mogwai after dark. Gone for now and at least I know where to look when it comes back. Charlie is awesome. Poor kid gets caught up in all kinds of different activities! Cheers John
Frustrating man! I just changed the spark plugs and ignition coils on my 2012 Subaru Tribeca, after which it wouldn't start. Ended up just holding the gas pedal down while cranking it for about 20 seconds (3x each), and eventually she fired up!
Thank you great video
hello What was the solution or that was the problem
+PROPIEDADES ORIENTE ANTIOQUEÑO intermittent fault with the crank sensor. He has sold it now so no idea if the problem returned
thumbs up on getting it to live but it seems you may have a intermittent fault in the crank sensor or the wiring good luck hope you pick up a extra crank sensor to play safe
Thanks Drew. Certainly seems like it might come back to haunt me so I'll get him to get hold of a spare sensor just in case.
Sounds good, running again and good for another 100k
It's running again and purring like a kitten. He sold it the day after this so that's the end of the saga for me!
@@Badgertronix What was the fault mate?
Fixing something that's not broke is like not fixing something that's not broke. I think 😎👍
There is logic in there somewhere I'm sure :)
:-)
What a strange problem that was Badger. And it sure looks like the new crank sensor was bad. Might break down again in the future, but at least she's running now :)
It sure was, but good for now. Shame I didn't have access to a scope to be able to see what the waveform looked like. Thanks Terry
A fix that ain't a fix is still a fix, right? I'll take it every time.
I'll take the fix but disgruntled about the hours wasted chasing my tail. Glad I didn't pay someone to tell me nothing
ScannerDanner couldn't make a vid like this , I think you have magical powers. LOL
Not the solution I was expecting but interesting/frustrating nonetheless
Charlie tryin to tell from the beginning what's wrong
What would have been the next things to check? Currently having a crank no start issue on my Subie.
The usual list of suspects. Need to have spark, fuel and compression at least to start
I have a 2005 Subaru Legacy GT Limited. (Turbo) well i was driving home outside temp 73 F. The other night. (191,000 miles on car) Car dies. Just cranks now i replaced the crankshaft sensor. No difference. It back fires when i crank it also. Pulled an injector and got sprayed by hissing fuel. I am stumped at this point any info. Would be appreciated. Its a family car and I only have my motorcycle left. So we are stuck at the house.
Do timing jumped a tooth or two I'm telling you that and check all your grounds real good and you check your your alternator may be surprised you could really make the car do this but 90% sure it's your tining
Especially if it's kind of backfiring
I would order a Oem sensor and have it on hand.
Probably a good plan. Thanks!
Well you took a spark plug and lead out this time so it may be linked
Probably not
A faulty CPS is not out of the list of possibilities but that usually only happens when the engine is warmed up-hot...Or it might have just got the shits and needed someone to finger it and swear at it a bit like all ECU engines do form time to time...Example #1...BMW 318i is still running sweet the guy says.?..I've got no answer to that one either.
Who knows but I know a lot more about subarus than when I started so every cloud has a silver something.
Sue-bar-roo ;)
Potato, potarto 😉
yep some people just call them "subies"... or like Scooby-Doo "Ruby-roo" lol
Or moneymaker if you're a mechanic
Shit. I was a bit late to the punch with suggestions. How odd. Either that original sensor is on the way out or there's a wiring issue and disturbing them cleared it up. How annoying.
Eric O and scanner danner never have to contend with screaming babies when they are diagnosing shit. haha
I think the sensor is probably on the way out. I gave the wiring a good test and it all checked out. Time will tell.
The last minute addition of a baby when the other half gets called into work really adds to the puzzle!
Yeah, but Eric O loses subs every time his doorbell rings when a customer shows up. lol My guess here would be a bad connection somewhere - maybe some crud in a connector that got knocked loose, since nothing else was changed. Possibly a broken wire somewhere, but I'd expect that to show up more and more as you play with the harness, not less. :-)
aussiebloke609 it was a headscratcher and the take home point was don't buy parts from Repco
When I was a kid in the '70s, everyone said Repco stood for "Rip Every Poor C**t Off" - I guess that hasn't changed. Bugger.
i is the immobiliser.
No where close to reliability of toyota and honda
Audi is trash