I had my house built in 2016. I put the contract up for bids. I asked the contractors where I could find houses they already built. Most were not willing to show me their workmanship, they we’re automatically eliminated from bids. One guy got irate, he asked “what you don’t trust me?” I said no, of course I don’t trust you, I don’t know you from Adam and you won’t let me see your work. He wanted to fight me. Good sign he was a shady contractor. I had one guy show me a couple houses that he built and met his crew. I’ve only had one complaint and he dropped what he was doing to come fix it. Moral of the story is do your homework or get taught the lesson the hard way.
Then you've got no complaints quit trying to make other people's life's hard he dropped what he was to fix it for you don't bad mouth him for taking care of your complaints
@@Freeman-eo2lx you’re not getting it at all. I chose the good contractor, the complaint was to him and he fixed it ASAP. Engage brain before putting mouth in gear there buddy.
Another thing is to ask them to show pictures of what their house looks like. You would be surprised at what you will see if they even will show you pictures.
@@Freeman-eo2lx Did you NOT READ her comment? She was only complaining about those who refused to let her look at their previous builds. She was complimenting the contractor who actually did the job. Re-read her comment.
I just had the Amish put in a 24x32 building w 12’ walls w a loft. Couldn’t b happier w the workmanship. They showed up when they said they would and k Ickes it out in no time. I would highly recommend them.
Completely agree with the quality issues. Get on top of your ROOF and check before settling for repairs. Also appreciate you bringing awareness to poor craftsmanship and high prices !
The scratches come from seeing how fast they can get screws in so they can get to another job. They were probably running three jobs trying to keep everyone happy. It doesn't work.You are right. You shouldn't have to babysit them, but you need to. Thanks for the videos.
I fell ya sir.. I built a $450,000 custom home and had to “babysit” nearly every contractor that came on site. People just don’t take pride in their professions any longer. It’s always just hurry up and move on to the next paycheck
Yes that’s true if you hire non union contractors who are fly by night low ball scum. They are jack of all trades and master of none. They hire illegals and nobody has any training or pride. I served a four year apprenticeship to become a carpenter and am very proud of my work and skills.quality isn’t cheap and cheap isn’t quality. Peace 🙏🏻
When my ex wife had her house built she asked to watch over the construction. I would point out things to her which she passed on to the builder. She was out of work at the time as a project manager and went to builder suggesting they hire her to smooth out the building process for future projects. They were not interested at all and she did not understand. I told her that all the things she pointed out just slowed the build process down as it caused rework and that was the last thing they wanted. She actually thought they wanted to build the best product and make the buyer happy....
Honestly I wouldnt be too upset, those steel pre fabs dont last long at all before they show signs of larger issues, you would have been better served with a pole barn, steel trusses and metal siding than the building you got. The company charged you one price for the building and install, then subbed it out to an installer for peanuts.
@@dehavenfamilyfarm -- As you're seeing, it all comes down to the actual individuals doing the work. A company's reputation can turn on a dime when they send out Moe Rons who can't even spell workmanship -- much less have any idea what the word means. :(
This guy bought material on the cheap then found a crew of installers on the cheap that put it on a crooked out of level slab and got a nice looking building for a storage building and is trying to make money on UA-cam
I Would have to take exception to your statement. A buddy of mine has had one for 17 years and it looks/functions as well as the day they finished the building.
You're not the only one who has problems with that company, in fact one man on utube fired the crew from going any further once they had the frame up, I truly believe the best deal would be to just have the kit delivered and do the build yourself, I understand that its hard to find good if any help these days but hiring people who have no experience and even less pride in their work is a huge mistake if a company wants to survive, hopefully you will get your problems fixed but that would be a miracle, good luck 🤞
Or have it delivered then have a reputable crew set it up. Although thinking about it. I recall looking into building kits delivered. In my research I found an overwhelming majority had issues with the kits with lots of Jerry rigging needed. A good bit of the negative reviews were from people in the construction trade that were confounded by the product delivered. It kept me from going that route.
Wow, so sorry that this company did such a shoddy job on constructing your new building. Obviously, you are not only going to hold the company accountable, but make the company correct all of the issues to your complete satisfaction, and I would watch them like a hawk whilst they do so! I wish you all the best and look forward to seeing a future UA-cam video with all of the corrections have been made and completed to your satisfaction!
The (hopefully different) company that will be installing my building next week also wanted the slab to be 4" oversize. There is supposed to be a piece added to the bottom that covers the extra 2" on the sides and ends that makes water run off the slab. The swirling scratches seem to be caused by workers losing control of their electric fastener drivers.
Mine had a metal plate that came to the edge of the concrete with a1/2 inch turn down allowing the water to run off and no seepage inside 👍🙏☕️ plates anchored to pad
That last piece of trim on the bottom is known as "rat guard" (works to keep mice out too) -- should reach up under the metal siding and run out and over the perimeter of the concrete slab to keep all water moving down and out away from the slab floor. That trim piece is completely missing on this build. :(
Your building looks great from afar. All these issues you are pointing out is exactly why I had to talk myself out of buying one. I had my design and colors all Choose. But I started watching videos like yours and reading a lot of reviews and I just did not want to go thru some of the horror stories I read. Sorry about about your building, they look great and priced fair. However there installers are terrible. I am building with wood next month. Thanks for the video.
Pretty much the cheapest type of building you can buy. Goes up in a day or two. Attention to detail is probably not available at that speed and price. I'm in the same boat. More space for cheap, or higher quality wood frame but settling for a smaller footprint. Thanks for sharing.
I had my building insulated with spray foam. Wasn’t cheap but, I don’t have worry about it falling down over time and the building doesn’t rattle when closing the doors. I’m glad I had it done!!
I also had a building put up from a company located in the Southern USA. I was told when I purchased it that the construction time would be 2 days because of the size. 26' x 30'. Well it took them 6 days to do it. The men working were all migrants and only one out of 3 spoke English. He was the foreman. When he left to do I don't know what the other two stopped working completely.As they were assembling it they kept dropping the screws all over the place. I kept asking them to stop dropping the screws or at least pick them up but they didn't and my wife's Jeep end up finding three of them in her BRAND NEW tires. Four years later and I am still finding them. Once the building was up they had noticed that they were missing corner trim pieces and drip rails for the wainscoting. It took three weeks to get them. Then when they came to install them they cut the corner trim 6" too short and tried to hide it from me. I saw it and called the company right away. It took another 6 weeks to get the replacement trim piece. It was a good thing that I was able to be here while they assemble it. I found many mistakes that they would have let go if I didn't point them out. I agree with you that for a company as large as they are they should build better workmanship in their final product. My building is now 4 years old and located in upstate NY. I found that the building leaks at the base all the way around it and had to Flex Seal the entire building. It helped but it still leaks in places. I will deal with it in the spring.
I'd be concerned about the structural integrity of those "rafters" if you live in an area that gets huge snow loads on the roof. Plus, didn't know you could put those ribbed steel panels horizontally like that. Always thought the water surface tension would allow the water to seep up behind the seams and into the building. Have only ever seen it installed with the ribs in a vertical position.
I agree. Horizontal installation is bound to have seepage problems at some time. I also imagine it would be a lot harder to put up, especially if you're doing it solo like I was. I built a 36x72 pole barn with metal roof and siding (vertical) and had NO scratches as bad as those shown. A few times I had the impact driver slip off the head of the screw but I stopped pretty quick. The scratches from those slips are hard to see even close up. I can't imagine how ANY worker would keep their finger on the trigger as long as it took to make those scratches.
@@jml2048 -- Horizontal metal shouldn't be any big deal as long as the flashing around windows and doors is done properly. I requested horizontal on my build because I thought it looked more residential. Only issue was those horizontal surfaces trap dirt and are harder to keep clean -- requires constant hosing off to keep white metal looking good.
@@JIMPETERSON-n7i This is very true. You shouldn't have water seeping issues for horizontal panels on the wall. However horizontal panels on roof, it is a big possibility. However it does trap dirt and requires maintenance.
@@wolfsteelbuildings -- Yeah -- I would never put metal panels on a roof horizontally. On our building they used old-school corrugated metal (vertically) but the boneheads banged it on with neo nails and pounded the dang nails down too tight -- creating small puddles around the neo-nails and they leaked -- no good way to fix something like that either. :(
just some comments and information you might find applicable ...i also posted in your slab prep video to use rebar in the slab instead of wire mesh (hope your mesh works for you).....#1 the concrete for those rolling doors should have had a recess of the thickness of a 2x IE 1-5/8" into the concrete as they are built now every rain, water will run under the rolling doors..... #2 normally the size of the building is measured to the inner side of the sheet metal sideing so if they gave you the concrete size it should have been poured with that in mind and then there should be a base trim for the sideing that completes that bottom setup , and their plans should show that bottom detail, there are several ways to do that but no configuration would result in what you have in place now which will run water into your building every time it rains,,,,at this point you have several problems with the concrete to building interface that will need to be addressed .........if i were "fixing" the problems i would probably cut, grind ,chip out the proper recess for the rolling doors into the concrete..and on the sheet bases i would fab a trim piece from behind the sheet out over the concrete edge.......every building needs punch listed that was inappropriate on their part for sure...if your witholding payment be sure and understand mechanics lien laws in your state and get appropriate lien waivers or you might get to pay for the building twice.... good luck sir
Would that explain why the door latches don't line up with the holes? With a recess it would drop the door lower which would be closer to lining up with the holes for the latches.
Thanks for all the info! If the doors were supposed to be recessed into the concrete, it wasn't made clear to me. We are withholding the final payment until they address the issues.
Right at the beginning of your video I can see dents in the grey metal siding bottom right corner. Our siding was installed on the vertical which enabled the installation of what you’d call a rat barrier along the bottom (seal). As far as the money goes you’re 100% right that it’s very$$$$ as was ours, 30X40. Hopefully you get everything sorted out to your liking.
The reason they want the slabs 4”’s wider is because these type of buildings aren’t square or plumb. I’m not sticking up for their poor workmanship, but that is why. The installers couldn’t make them perfectly plumb no matter how hard they tried. There is variations in the steel framing when it is bent and welded at the manufacture. I don’t install these buildings, but I do the excavation for an installer of self storage buildings, and I hear the complaints all the time. Aside from my excavation business, I also own welding shop. So I can tell you from experience if they don’t have good fixtures when they are fabricating the parts, every piece will be a little different. These companies don’t that’s why these buildings are so much cheaper compared to stick built construction. They are manufactured close enough. And then the installers fight with the pieces and get the attitude close enough. Some manufacturers supply the siding pre-cut to the installers, so if the framing is off, which it will be, it will likely throw off the siding and trim.
My building is the same size of concrete so the siding goes past the concrete so water doesn't get under the wall. The problem with that is when they put anchors in a couple chunks of concrete broke out the side too close to the edge.
Man.. I feel lucky that my metal building went up exactly as it should. I've watched a lot of videos where people had issues with theirs. Sorry for your issues.. I hope they fix it.
We had a post beam building installed and wanted light panels on just 1 side of the roof. The foreman constantly couldn't tell east from west. We went on vacation and I won the bet that they would install them on the wrong side. Can't tell that the sun comes up in the east? Good grief!!!! Made them come back and move them. Now the insulation rework is peeling and degrading dramatically.
I've installed about 100 of those roll up doors. The springs are not adjusted properly. Tighten the spring with slide lock in the unlock position. Keep tightening until you see the door raise up and a crack of light come thru. At that point the door with tighten and not be squished down and the lock should align with the hole. The door should also become easy to lift. The short trim is just that, and the siding pieces were cut short. The swirly scratches comes from not applying enough pressure on the self tapping screw. Sometimes the metal will have spots harder than the rest. Very hard to drill thru and the self tapper will take a walk. Hope this helps. NEW CONSTRUCTON!! THAT AIN'T RIGHT!!
Unbelievable the amount of total screw ups on your new building! I checked BBB ratings on lots of builders before I hired an Amish crew to come and put up my building. It was done in a few days and they did a fantastic job.
Amish aren’t the best either they bent a 16’ long piece of siding in half and put it up anyways. I’ve been fighting roof leaks for the last 6 months since they finished.
The reputation of Amish workmanship has taken a major hit since the RV industry started paying them piece work to build RVs. They start very early in the morning to beat the heat in the crappy UNinsulated tin sheds where these RV builds take place and they're sharing the cab fare with 3 or 4 other Amish dudes to get there *and* get home so the incentive is just go/go/go so you're not holding up your friends as they all have farm work to finish back home before dark. :(
6:38, 25th of November. Doing this for my husband. One thing is very important that you need to check is the rubbers of the screws on the roof, ours blew out and the roof leaks. We had 2 12’ wings on each side, when we closed them in for parking we realized the water wasn’t coming from the sides it was coming from the roof. Not only was this company rude when we reported within the warranty they never responded and we got screwed and so much more.
That really sucks. Nothing worse than hiring someone else to do a task and then having to go back and fix their screw ups with your own time and more money after the fact. Hopefully you get some resolution with the company. Interested to hear what the intended purpose of the new building is. Take care.
Most of the issues you have can be solved with different trim pieces, use a side angle grinder and make a bigger hole, simple fix, a good sheet metal person can fix all those problems easily.
Chris that is disappointing, the CEO of the company must take responsibility for that mess and dismantle it and put a new one up or give you 50% of your money back
That sucks. You're looking forward to the new building and get crap like this. I hope you get it all worked out. As you said, it'll be a great space eventually
I feel for you. I think that corner trim is the wrong trim, rather for vertical metal sheets, not horizontal as your building. I would consider a good lawyer, but that's me.
The slab oversize is so that your concrete anchors don't break off the edge of the slab. These buildings are really "enclosed carports". In their basic form they are a shade structure that probably leaks water a bit. You have to upgrade them a bit and get the install near perfect to make it weather tight and insect/rodent tight. And you need it insect/rodent tight if you want to insulate it without making it a home for insects and rodents in the walls. If you insulate, you also want an insulated residential style garage door instead of a sheet metal roll-up. This is all possible and I'm going to do it but the key is I'm going to do it. I might bring in some help but I'm going to take my time and be the builder and on site QC instead of just a customer. I'm also going to have all of my doors on site before the enclosed carport "kit" arrives so that I can make my door frames the exact size required and also get the building enclosed ASAP instead of being wide open for weeks or months while I'm waiting on doors.
There seems to be alot of problems with these "Carport" Buildings! Seen many videos on here as well as in person locally! I never liked anything but a Red Iron Building myself! Worth the extra few dollars in the long run! Hope U can get it fixed
pride in your work and using a square went out a couple decades ago, i see people who dont even know what a plumb bob is used for and they building houses
the slab would have been fine if you keyed it so the metal has a place to go. a 2x2 put at the top of the form board is ideal in a metal building. if you go to do more building look into it. make them put real corner trim on all 4 corners so it matches
That company doesn’t take pride in what they do. Some of the stuff they did might have happened when the conditions got too dark but still inexcusable. Hope you get everything rectified without much pushback.
This is so sad. I feel your pain. I've been disappointed by almost every contractor I have ever used. I have to watch their every move. I question them along the way. And still, in the end I find half-assed work. I can only imagine how bad it might have been if I wasn't looking over their shoulder. Trying to get them to come back to fix their screwups is like pulling teeth. There is very little pride in workmanship anymore. Very few contractors EVER followup to see if I was happy with their work. They all want is to get the job done and be paid and move on as soon as possible. Many happily finish work after dark where there is no chance of spotting defects before they depart. I have had a few excellent contractors and I could tell they really cared about their work and made sure I was happy. For them, cash tips for the crew.
Wow! What a shame. There are way too many mistakes and too much damage. Hopefully you will be able to settle with the company. It's very understandable why you would be upset. I would be livid...
At 9:15 the corner covering seems narrower by an inch at the bottom compared to further up. You may be able to cover the siding edge by replacing the whole corner piece.
I feel you buddy. There seems to be no quality in workmanship these days anymore! I've been looking for a building also but am so afraid to hire due to all the issues like yours. We shouldn't have to "Babysit" these workers/ businesses, but it seems they just don't care. They also probably have so-called greenhorns working for them. I would very much like for you to give me that builder's name so I don't get stuck getting pore quality work like yours done. I'm so sorry that this has happened to you, and the word needs to get out there more! Thank you for your input and video.
I looked at many builders and several shops that acquaintances had used various contractors to build. The work was generally sub par to poor. The buildings did not look like they could hold up to high winds or storms. I watched many youtubes on building various shops and decided on metal frame and r panel. I spoke with a metal supplier and ended who was very helpful and gave great advice. I took my time and built it myself. From the time that I started tearing down the carport till I was completely finished was two years. I just worked on it during weekends that I was off. When I was tired I took the weekend off. Anytime time that I did not like the way something was assembled, or if I scratched r panel while installing it, I took it apart and replaced it with a new piece and made sure to do it correctly. I am more happy with it than I would have been if I had hired it out. I was able to poor the concrete and build it for what the cost of the building would have been if contracted out. The only part I contracted out was the slab. I watched your video and can honestly tell you that you can easily fix these problems. Moves those wi dows. Just reuse the windows, trim and framing, and replace the red siding that is either cut wrong or scratched. You will also pick up some useful skills. Either be happy with it done wrong and poorly, or change it!
I got the same quality on my Carolina Carport building install. Almost identical multiple problems as yours. Wasn’t happy with all of the mistakes made but decided to wash my hands of them and resolve all of the issues myself. Very disappointing and I would’ve built it myself if I had known the installers were that bad. I feel for ya buddy.
Sorry about your issues with the contractor that installed your building. I'm in south Texas, and there's way more bad contractors than good ones. It doesn't matter whether they are in landscape, plumbing, electric, HVAC, or any other trade. Shoddy workmanship seems to be the rule instead of the exception here. If you're not making it your job to watch them doing their work, you're going to get a crappy job. Inexperienced, untrained, and unsupervised workers are everywhere down here. I hope you get your issues resolved with the contractor you're dealing with. Good luck!!!
if you don't tell us who the builder is, it doesn't help us guys that are in the market for a building like yours, appreciate your video and I will keep an eye for this flaws when I have mine built, but you should consider telling who the builder is, thank you much.
I feel your pain. On my latest barn had problems as well. My construction crew was good but just rolled with the delays the company I bought the barn from. I basically had to be the general manager to push to get it done in a timely manner. It still took about 2 months to get the barn done that should have been able to be finished in 4 to 5 days. Best of luck to you, and I hope they get it correct it.
3 months later and I do not see a video on the company? I am having a building put up shortly, pad done, but I am wondering who did yours? I am in NC. Thanks.
Those "studs" look like they are only about 2" x 2" which is way too skinny for these height studs. Maybe that is why they added the wind braces. Seems like there is no cross bracing in the walls or roof and all the wind loads are supposed to be taken up by the metal wall panels. Might be okay for a garage, but for a building the size of a barn this looks way too skinny. Will need to rat proof the corners with sheet metal somehow. Pretty unique idea to use such skinny studs and horizontal panel rib siding. Certainly saves steel! Not sure it meets code though. Did you have an engineer sign off on this?!
The problem with these sheds, there is such a demand that the builders rush putting them together. They don't care about quality, they only care about quantity. This is why I prefer doing things myself instead of wasting money on buying sheds from these companies. Mine may not be much better, but it's a heck of a lot cheaper.
That’s terrible I hope the company straightens with you. I was thinking of buying one of those buildings before I buy one I’m going to watch to see if you say who did this they have no pride in there work like you said they aren’t cheap I wish you the best hopefully they stand by there product.
Also, where I live is desert so it doesn't rain every week or month. When the rains came and the roof leaked I called them and was told they only have a 30 day warranty. It was 3 months in. I fixed it myself and never used them for the next 2. Louses.
As the rest of us who has been thru this process, as you said, lot of money in your metal building, I would of been right there, it's your money and should of been right there and would seen all the mistakes, and there will be mistakes, you been there to catch them, and make sure that they are corrected, and really shocking that there wasn't a final build walk thru, but the building is nice
These guys look like they all used to work at a bakery. Most bakeries have a saying, "its gonna be eaten so it only has to look good for a few minutes." I hope you like that metal cake.
Sorry for your frustration Chris. We have two of those type vendors locally and have used one of them o a project at work and they were great. Hopefully this company that you used will make some amends. Take care and have a blessed week my friend.
The building manufacturer could very well provide a good product. I worked for a concrete contractor that did excellent installations using experienced workers. Our bids for jobs were seldom the lowest but costumers that new our ability to provide an excellent job would choose us over the cheapest bidder. My question, did you choose the cheapest installation bid?
I had 3 of these put up and each has some issue. One has a roof leak that they will not fix. Another has a roll up door that comes down on it's own which is frustrating when trying to back out. And the third has been the least problematic with only a sticky roll up door that gives me a problems sometimes when trying to roll it up. None of these are as they could be. One was so bad I finally told them to remove it which they never did. I did get a refund on that one $5K.
Thankyou VERY MUCH for your video I was just about to go with this type building. I have been juggling different material options, ship container, wood, steel, they all have pros& cons but watching your video I just changed my mind again!! I'm so sorry for the expense how very poorly they constructed your building how very disappointing!! You have very legitimate complaints I would DEFINATELY get the company to send a better crew out to fix these issues you shouldnt have to fix it you saved up to pay for it.
Also looks like a lot of dents in the grey metal below the window to the far right running to the corner of the building. Looks like some real shoddy workmanship.
@@dehavenfamilyfarm Look at the beginning of your video. Look to the right of where you are standing at the grey metal. It looks likes dents where the screws are. I may be an oil can effect from over tightening the screws. Look at the three screws along the bottom of the grey metal. Around each screw it looks like the metal has wavy dents in it.
Those squiggly scratches are from the drill bit walking on them!! I was a forman on many jobs and I got the customer to sign off on every job I finished and never got a call back in 40 years of doing that kind of work! It's very disturbing that you can't get good work anymore!!
See the daylight underneath the big door on the side and also in the corner of the building in the right front as you came in Be interested in who put it in as I’m waiting for my building The company I contracted from is out of North Carolina Good luck
What a nightmare, I had a broker for mine, unknown at the time of conversation, but this guy passed himself as a company. But the real company and their installers , not independent contractors were stellar. I was very lucky in this mine field of Metal buildings. I got everything I wanted that was specified in the contract. I stayed all day with the installers, amazing what you find out talking to them and helping, getting them lunch and having a cooler full of water and Gatorade for them. Things I learned: Ask if the person you’re talking to is a broker? Does the company employ their own installers or independent contractors? Does the company source materials from a wholesale supplier? And they all do if they are based in that 50 mile area around Mt. Airy NC. Can you build to the dimensions of the concrete pad, not inches away to the interior and I want the side panels to extend two inches down along the sides of the concrete pad. Local references to go see and talk with the customer? Lookup BBB complaints, deciding factor why I didn’t go with several companies.
I had the same experience with an Amish pole barn builder. They were quick, but boy were things sloppy. Overdriven screws, over-nailing of headers, torn/didn't tape house wrap, walk door wasn't shimmed/framed properly. What the heck are we paying these people for? And it's not like they were the cheapest!
You can't trust those Amish contractors, when you see that horse and buggy with Jebediah Construction Co. on the side of it bend over because you are about to get screwed.
You have some valid complaints. One thing I noticed right off is the forms are way too small 6+ inches on either side is the minimum . Also it is raised with backfill is it level ? Scratches are normal but you are correct lousy touch up. Fit and finish poor overall . Good luck getting it repaired you have your work cut out for you !
Looks like an eagle garage. If you look around on the floor, I’m sure they left plenty around so you can screw in spots where missing. Or you can collect up those extra screws with your truck or mower. Mine that was installed was delayed also. Buckles in metal. Scratches also. P!ss poor trimming. Gapping where panels overlap. And on and on.
Chris, I'm about to have my metal building installed. I hadn't paid a thing yet. It's a 30'x 50' x12' metal building from Alan's Factory Outlet. I hope I don't go through this same azz chit! Good luck resolving the building issues. Don 👍🏽🤠 11/12/23
Hopefully they will do a good job for you. But after this experience, I would keep a close eye on them to avoid issues. Good luck and thanks for stopping by!
Have you had a rain yet? The building and siding appears to have been built inside the perimeter of the concrete pad. That means rain is not channeled to the outside, but drops onto the pad. Guess where it will go? I know because I have a similar experience with same type of building. First rain we got flooded. Solution was to go to a sheet metal shop and have them make enough flashing that you can put at the bottom so the rain goes to the outside of the pad. Might have to cut the bottom of the siding so you can slip the top of the flashing underneath. Talk about problems, our building has the roof put on wrong with a slope of only 1/8" per foot!!! Was supposed to be 3/12. Did not realize that until contractor was long gone. We also screwed up and got company from out of state because they were cheaper. Contract said if we did not like the work, had to go out of state to sue them. Get what you pay for, buy locally so you can put pressure on company to fix problems.
This is just sad. And I'm sure this building was expensive, especially since prices on everything has gone up over the past few years. This is exactly why I hate to hire anybody and try to just do it myself. So sorry you had to deal with this crap.
that's a real shame, just way to many companies out there just don't care. if I were you i sure would be contacting them about the way things were done.
Your garage door tracks are not square that's why it's binding. The siding is definitely too short. The corner trim you want to stop about a half inch from the bottom so that water doesn't Damm up at bottom. The swirls are where someone didn't know how to use an impact and slipped off the head and skipped down the building.
Out in ca 12 years back i graded the pad had a 30 by 40 14 high walls 10 ft roll up door and a walk thru nice big sky lights the sheet metal is thick so it can take a snow load 24.000 turn key.
I did skid thru your video just a bit, did you ever mention the price of the building?? (sans concrete) and the overall dimensions?? Maybe you wish to keep that private, just looking for a ballpark price on that size installed, just the steel and insulated roof/door/rollup door?? They seem to be cheaper down south but I have to make a decision soon as it can take a year alone for delivery...
I can complete understand how your feeling about the build quality No one is going to care as much as you do because your standards are high but every thing can be fixed . I would like to have a lip over then pad not long enough that is really hard to fix after
The barrel on the rollup door needs to be level. The guides (what you are calling jambs) need to be plumb, or the door will rub inside the guides. Are they bent? They can be finicky if not properly installed. The slide locks not lining up appear to be a manufacturing mistake but can be elongated without worry as they do not bear the weight of the door.
I had my house built in 2016. I put the contract up for bids. I asked the contractors where I could find houses they already built. Most were not willing to show me their workmanship, they we’re automatically eliminated from bids. One guy got irate, he asked “what you don’t trust me?” I said no, of course I don’t trust you, I don’t know you from Adam and you won’t let me see your work. He wanted to fight me. Good sign he was a shady contractor. I had one guy show me a couple houses that he built and met his crew. I’ve only had one complaint and he dropped what he was doing to come fix it. Moral of the story is do your homework or get taught the lesson the hard way.
Then you've got no complaints quit trying to make other people's life's hard he dropped what he was to fix it for you don't bad mouth him for taking care of your complaints
@@Freeman-eo2lx you’re not getting it at all. I chose the good contractor, the complaint was to him and he fixed it ASAP. Engage brain before putting mouth in gear there buddy.
Another thing is to ask them to show pictures of what their house looks like. You would be surprised at what you will see if they even will show you pictures.
@@Freeman-eo2lx Did you NOT READ her comment? She was only complaining about those who refused to let her look at their previous builds. She was complimenting the contractor who actually did the job. Re-read her comment.
@@CW1116Mark Chatman a her...?
The corner trim being short is a design feature to let the mice have an easy entry point to get out of the cold for the winter.
Oh, is that the reason??? 🤣🤣🤣 Don't give them any ideas 🙃
funny but true
I think it’s to let all the water out.
Spray foam.i did it on mine the only area for rodents to get in quick fix
@brianmatthews4149 pack the hole with coarse steel wool then spray foam. It will stop the mice then.
I just had the Amish put in a 24x32 building w 12’ walls w a loft. Couldn’t b happier w the workmanship. They showed up when they said they would and k Ickes it out in no time. I would highly recommend them.
Did they do the concrete as well? What type of exterior did you do? How much did it set you back?
@@jpjp3873 The amish dont do the concrete themselves. They contract that to a local concrete company in your area. Stoltzfus is a good amish builder.
I'm in NC, where did you find your guys and do they travel.?
Completely agree with the quality issues. Get on top of your ROOF and check before settling for repairs. Also appreciate you bringing awareness to poor craftsmanship and high prices !
The scratches come from seeing how fast they can get screws in so they can get to another job. They were probably running three jobs trying to keep everyone happy. It doesn't work.You are right. You shouldn't have to babysit them, but you need to. Thanks for the videos.
Unfortunately, this is the trend now in the US, with everything. It's like no one cares!
I fell ya sir..
I built a $450,000 custom home and had to “babysit” nearly every contractor that came on site. People just don’t take pride in their professions any longer. It’s always just hurry up and move on to the next paycheck
Just because contractor are licensed don't mean a thing. It's just so the state can collect taxes. Always ask to see recent jobs.
Yes that’s true if you hire non union contractors who are fly by night low ball scum. They are jack of all trades and master of none. They hire illegals and nobody has any training or pride. I served a four year apprenticeship to become a carpenter and am very proud of my work and skills.quality isn’t cheap and cheap isn’t quality. Peace 🙏🏻
People take pride in money, that's about it nowadays
All people care about is if it passes inspection. If so than you and they are golden.
When my ex wife had her house built she asked to watch over the construction. I would point out things to her which she passed on to the builder. She was out of work at the time as a project manager and went to builder suggesting they hire her to smooth out the building process for future projects. They were not interested at all and she did not understand. I told her that all the things she pointed out just slowed the build process down as it caused rework and that was the last thing they wanted. She actually thought they wanted to build the best product and make the buyer happy....
Honestly I wouldnt be too upset, those steel pre fabs dont last long at all before they show signs of larger issues, you would have been better served with a pole barn, steel trusses and metal siding than the building you got. The company charged you one price for the building and install, then subbed it out to an installer for peanuts.
I have two other buildings from the same company. One is 10 years old the other is 15. No complaints with either one.
@@dehavenfamilyfarm -- As you're seeing, it all comes down to the actual individuals doing the work. A company's reputation can turn on a dime when they send out Moe Rons who can't even spell workmanship -- much less have any idea what the word means. :(
This guy bought material on the cheap then found a crew of installers on the cheap that put it on a crooked out of level slab and got a nice looking building for a storage building and is trying to make money on UA-cam
I Would have to take exception to your statement. A buddy of mine has had one for 17 years and it looks/functions as well as the day they finished the building.
Not true.
You're not the only one who has problems with that company, in fact one man on utube fired the crew from going any further once they had the frame up, I truly believe the best deal would be to just have the kit delivered and do the build yourself, I understand that its hard to find good if any help these days but hiring people who have no experience and even less pride in their work is a huge mistake if a company wants to survive, hopefully you will get your problems fixed but that would be a miracle, good luck 🤞
Or have it delivered then have a reputable crew set it up.
Although thinking about it. I recall looking into building kits delivered.
In my research I found an overwhelming majority had issues with the kits with lots of Jerry rigging needed.
A good bit of the negative reviews were from people in the construction trade that were confounded by the product delivered. It kept me from going that route.
Wow, so sorry that this company did such a shoddy job on constructing your new building.
Obviously, you are not only going to hold the company accountable, but make the company correct all of the issues to your complete satisfaction, and I would watch them like a hawk whilst they do so!
I wish you all the best and look forward to seeing a future UA-cam video with all of the corrections have been made and completed to your satisfaction!
The (hopefully different) company that will be installing my building next week also wanted the slab to be 4" oversize.
There is supposed to be a piece added to the bottom that covers the extra 2" on the sides and ends that makes water run off the slab.
The swirling scratches seem to be caused by workers losing control of their electric fastener drivers.
Mine had a metal plate that came to the edge of the concrete with a1/2 inch turn down allowing the water to run off and no seepage inside 👍🙏☕️ plates anchored to pad
That last piece of trim on the bottom is known as "rat guard" (works to keep mice out too) -- should reach up under the metal siding and run out and over the perimeter of the concrete slab to keep all water moving down and out away from the slab floor. That trim piece is completely missing on this build. :(
Your building looks great from afar. All these issues you are pointing out is exactly why I had to talk myself out of buying one. I had my design and colors all Choose. But I started watching videos like yours and reading a lot of reviews and I just did not want to go thru some of the horror stories I read. Sorry about about your building, they look great and priced fair. However there installers are terrible. I am building with wood next month. Thanks for the video.
Pretty much the cheapest type of building you can buy. Goes up in a day or two. Attention to detail is probably not available at that speed and price.
I'm in the same boat. More space for cheap, or higher quality wood frame but settling for a smaller footprint. Thanks for sharing.
I had my building insulated with spray foam. Wasn’t cheap but, I don’t have worry about it falling down over time and the building doesn’t rattle when closing the doors. I’m glad I had it done!!
what's a price per sq ft for spray foam and did they do ceiling too?
@@howardmoody9379 I think it was $3,500 walls and ceiling (30x40). That’s been 2 or 3 years ago. Have no regrets
I also had a building put up from a company located in the Southern USA. I was told when I purchased it that the construction time would be 2 days because of the size. 26' x 30'. Well it took them 6 days to do it. The men working were all migrants and only one out of 3 spoke English. He was the foreman. When he left to do I don't know what the other two stopped working completely.As they were assembling it they kept dropping the screws all over the place. I kept asking them to stop dropping the screws or at least pick them up but they didn't and my wife's Jeep end up finding three of them in her BRAND NEW tires. Four years later and I am still finding them. Once the building was up they had noticed that they were missing corner trim pieces and drip rails for the wainscoting. It took three weeks to get them. Then when they came to install them they cut the corner trim 6" too short and tried to hide it from me. I saw it and called the company right away. It took another 6 weeks to get the replacement trim piece. It was a good thing that I was able to be here while they assemble it. I found many mistakes that they would have let go if I didn't point them out. I agree with you that for a company as large as they are they should build better workmanship in their final product. My building is now 4 years old and located in upstate NY. I found that the building leaks at the base all the way around it and had to Flex Seal the entire building. It helped but it still leaks in places. I will deal with it in the spring.
That’s not the steel buildings we put up down here in south that’s considered as a carport
I'd be concerned about the structural integrity of those "rafters" if you live in an area that gets huge snow loads on the roof. Plus, didn't know you could put those ribbed steel panels horizontally like that. Always thought the water surface tension would allow the water to seep up behind the seams and into the building. Have only ever seen it installed with the ribs in a vertical position.
I agree. My building inspector and the steel roofing/siding manufacturer both told me not to install metal siding horizontally because of "wicking".
I agree. Horizontal installation is bound to have seepage problems at some time. I also imagine it would be a lot harder to put up, especially if you're doing it solo like I was. I built a 36x72 pole barn with metal roof and siding (vertical) and had NO scratches as bad as those shown. A few times I had the impact driver slip off the head of the screw but I stopped pretty quick. The scratches from those slips are hard to see even close up. I can't imagine how ANY worker would keep their finger on the trigger as long as it took to make those scratches.
@@jml2048 -- Horizontal metal shouldn't be any big deal as long as the flashing around windows and doors is done properly. I requested horizontal on my build because I thought it looked more residential. Only issue was those horizontal surfaces trap dirt and are harder to keep clean -- requires constant hosing off to keep white metal looking good.
@@JIMPETERSON-n7i This is very true. You shouldn't have water seeping issues for horizontal panels on the wall. However horizontal panels on roof, it is a big possibility. However it does trap dirt and requires maintenance.
@@wolfsteelbuildings -- Yeah -- I would never put metal panels on a roof horizontally. On our building they used old-school corrugated metal (vertically) but the boneheads banged it on with neo nails and pounded the dang nails down too tight -- creating small puddles around the neo-nails and they leaked -- no good way to fix something like that either. :(
just some comments and information you might find applicable ...i also posted in your slab prep video to use rebar in the slab instead of wire mesh (hope your mesh works for you).....#1 the concrete for those rolling doors should have had a recess of the thickness of a 2x IE 1-5/8" into the concrete as they are built now every rain, water will run under the rolling doors..... #2 normally the size of the building is measured to the inner side of the sheet metal sideing so if they gave you the concrete size it should have been poured with that in mind and then there should be a base trim for the sideing that completes that bottom setup , and their plans should show that bottom detail, there are several ways to do that but no configuration would result in what you have in place now which will run water into your building every time it rains,,,,at this point you have several problems with the concrete to building interface that will need to be addressed .........if i were "fixing" the problems i would probably cut, grind ,chip out the proper recess for the rolling doors into the concrete..and on the sheet bases i would fab a trim piece from behind the sheet out over the concrete edge.......every building needs punch listed that was inappropriate on their part for sure...if your witholding payment be sure and understand mechanics lien laws in your state and get appropriate lien waivers or you might get to pay for the building twice.... good luck sir
Would that explain why the door latches don't line up with the holes? With a recess it would drop the door lower which would be closer to lining up with the holes for the latches.
Thanks for all the info! If the doors were supposed to be recessed into the concrete, it wasn't made clear to me. We are withholding the final payment until they address the issues.
Right at the beginning of your video I can see dents in the grey metal siding bottom right corner. Our siding was installed on the vertical which enabled the installation of what you’d call a rat barrier along the bottom (seal). As far as the money goes you’re 100% right that it’s very$$$$ as was ours, 30X40. Hopefully you get everything sorted out to your liking.
This is just a shame, I feel bad for you. I would be so upset with the builder! I hope they make things right for you!
The reason they want the slabs 4”’s wider is because these type of buildings aren’t square or plumb. I’m not sticking up for their poor workmanship, but that is why. The installers couldn’t make them perfectly plumb no matter how hard they tried. There is variations in the steel framing when it is bent and welded at the manufacture. I don’t install these buildings, but I do the excavation for an installer of self storage buildings, and I hear the complaints all the time. Aside from my excavation business, I also own welding shop. So I can tell you from experience if they don’t have good fixtures when they are fabricating the parts, every piece will be a little different. These companies don’t that’s why these buildings are so much cheaper compared to stick built construction. They are manufactured close enough. And then the installers fight with the pieces and get the attitude close enough. Some manufacturers supply the siding pre-cut to the installers, so if the framing is off, which it will be, it will likely throw off the siding and trim.
My building is the same size of concrete so the siding goes past the concrete so water doesn't get under the wall. The problem with that is when they put anchors in a couple chunks of concrete broke out the side too close to the edge.
useful info , thanks
Man.. I feel lucky that my metal building went up exactly as it should. I've watched a lot of videos where people had issues with theirs. Sorry for your issues.. I hope they fix it.
Not minimizing the workmanship here, but when you are down and out, watch this Vid, your building is a charm considering. lol
We had a post beam building installed and wanted light panels on just 1 side of the roof. The foreman constantly couldn't tell east from west. We went on vacation and I won the bet that they would install them on the wrong side. Can't tell that the sun comes up in the east? Good grief!!!! Made them come back and move them. Now the insulation rework is peeling and degrading dramatically.
I've installed about 100 of those roll up doors. The springs are not adjusted properly. Tighten the spring with slide lock in the unlock position. Keep tightening until you see the door raise up and a crack of light come thru. At that point the door with tighten and not be squished down and the lock should align with the hole. The door should also become easy to lift. The short trim is just that, and the siding pieces were cut short. The swirly scratches comes from not applying enough pressure on the self tapping screw. Sometimes the metal will have spots harder than the rest. Very hard to drill thru and the self tapper will take a walk. Hope this helps. NEW CONSTRUCTON!! THAT AIN'T RIGHT!!
Thank you for the info!
You are a lot more forgiving than I would be. I’d be looking for fixes plus one hell of a big adjustment on my bill.
Unbelievable the amount of total screw ups on your new building! I checked BBB ratings on lots of builders before I hired an Amish crew to come and put up my building. It was done in a few days and they did a fantastic job.
Amish aren’t the best either they bent a 16’ long piece of siding in half and put it up anyways. I’ve been fighting roof leaks for the last 6 months since they finished.
The reputation of Amish workmanship has taken a major hit since the RV industry started paying them piece work to build RVs. They start very early in the morning to beat the heat in the crappy UNinsulated tin sheds where these RV builds take place and they're sharing the cab fare with 3 or 4 other Amish dudes to get there *and* get home so the incentive is just go/go/go so you're not holding up your friends as they all have farm work to finish back home before dark. :(
How frustrating! Hope the company resolves these issues.
Me too, but that remains to be seen!
6:38, 25th of November.
Doing this for my husband. One thing is very important that you need to check is the rubbers of the screws on the roof, ours blew out and the roof leaks. We had 2 12’ wings on each side, when we closed them in for parking we realized the water wasn’t coming from the sides it was coming from the roof. Not only was this company rude when we reported within the warranty they never responded and we got screwed and so much more.
That really sucks. Nothing worse than hiring someone else to do a task and then having to go back and fix their screw ups with your own time and more money after the fact. Hopefully you get some resolution with the company. Interested to hear what the intended purpose of the new building is. Take care.
It really does suck. Does no body care about quality anymore?? We will get some sort of resolution, or they aren't getting the final payment 😉
Most of the issues you have can be solved with different trim pieces, use a side angle grinder and make a bigger hole, simple fix, a good sheet metal person can fix all those problems easily.
True but he paid for them to do it correctly the first time and they should be fixing the issues on their time and dollars.
Chris that is disappointing, the CEO of the company must take responsibility for that mess and dismantle it and put a new one up or give you 50% of your money back
Luckily we still owe them about 35% of the total cost of the building so we have some leverage to get things resolved. Thanks Jan!!
I wish someone would tell who they are. I don't want to hire them.
@@marshaclark6144 Probably Cardinal.
That sucks. You're looking forward to the new building and get crap like this. I hope you get it all worked out. As you said, it'll be a great space eventually
I feel for you.
I think that corner trim is the wrong trim, rather for vertical metal sheets, not horizontal as your building.
I would consider a good lawyer, but that's me.
Chris, i hope that u get the company that built ur building to come and take care of the problems that u had shown-us.
One way or another the issues will be resolved or they will not get the final payment 😉 Thanks!
The slab oversize is so that your concrete anchors don't break off the edge of the slab.
These buildings are really "enclosed carports". In their basic form they are a shade structure that probably leaks water a bit.
You have to upgrade them a bit and get the install near perfect to make it weather tight and insect/rodent tight. And you need it insect/rodent tight if you want to insulate it without making it a home for insects and rodents in the walls.
If you insulate, you also want an insulated residential style garage door instead of a sheet metal roll-up.
This is all possible and I'm going to do it but the key is I'm going to do it. I might bring in some help but I'm going to take my time and be the builder and on site QC instead of just a customer.
I'm also going to have all of my doors on site before the enclosed carport "kit" arrives so that I can make my door frames the exact size required and also get the building enclosed ASAP instead of being wide open for weeks or months while I'm waiting on doors.
There seems to be alot of problems with these "Carport" Buildings! Seen many videos on here as well as in person locally! I never liked anything but a Red Iron Building myself! Worth the extra few dollars in the long run! Hope U can get it fixed
It seems when the metal is run horizontally it’s a big red flag…
im so glad I didnt go the metal building route! Traditional 2x6 walls and trusses for me
I hope that you confront the company and let people know about these issues with them
Absolutely will! And will post another video in the future letting everyone know how everything was handled and who the company was. Thanks!
pride in your work and using a square went out a couple decades ago, i see people who dont even know what a plumb bob is used for and they building houses
the slab would have been fine if you keyed it so the metal has a place to go. a 2x2 put at the top of the form board is ideal in a metal building. if you go to do more building look into it.
make them put real corner trim on all 4 corners so it matches
That company doesn’t take pride in what they do. Some of the stuff they did might have happened when the conditions got too dark but still inexcusable. Hope you get everything rectified without much pushback.
This is so sad. I feel your pain. I've been disappointed by almost every contractor I have ever used. I have to watch their every move. I question them along the way. And still, in the end I find half-assed work. I can only imagine how bad it might have been if I wasn't looking over their shoulder. Trying to get them to come back to fix their screwups is like pulling teeth. There is very little pride in workmanship anymore. Very few contractors EVER followup to see if I was happy with their work. They all want is to get the job done and be paid and move on as soon as possible. Many happily finish work after dark where there is no chance of spotting defects before they depart. I have had a few excellent contractors and I could tell they really cared about their work and made sure I was happy. For them, cash tips for the crew.
Looks like an extremly low quality kit building. The erector wasnt exactly on top of it either. Always use a local respectable builder.
Wow! What a shame. There are way too many mistakes and too much damage. Hopefully you will be able to settle with the company. It's very understandable why you would be upset. I would be livid...
At 9:15 the corner covering seems narrower by an inch at the bottom compared to further up. You may be able to cover the siding edge by replacing the whole corner piece.
It does appear that way on video, but it actually is the correct size in person 🙂
I feel you buddy. There seems to be no quality in workmanship these days anymore! I've been looking for a building also but am so afraid to hire due to all the issues like yours. We shouldn't have to "Babysit" these workers/ businesses, but it seems they just don't care. They also probably have so-called greenhorns working for them. I would very much like for you to give me that builder's name so I don't get stuck getting pore quality work like yours done. I'm so sorry that this has happened to you, and the word needs to get out there more! Thank you for your input and video.
really makes ya think, if you want it done right, gotta do it yourself.
I looked at many builders and several shops that acquaintances had used various contractors to build. The work was generally sub par to poor. The buildings did not look like they could hold up to high winds or storms.
I watched many youtubes on building various shops and decided on metal frame and r panel. I spoke with a metal supplier and ended who was very helpful and gave great advice.
I took my time and built it myself. From the time that I started tearing down the carport till I was completely finished was two years. I just worked on it during weekends that I was off. When I was tired I took the weekend off.
Anytime time that I did not like the way something was assembled, or if I scratched r panel while installing it, I took it apart and replaced it with a new piece and made sure to do it correctly. I am more happy with it than I would have been if I had hired it out.
I was able to poor the concrete and build it for what the cost of the building would have been if contracted out. The only part I contracted out was the slab.
I watched your video and can honestly tell you that you can easily fix these problems. Moves those wi dows. Just reuse the windows, trim and framing, and replace the red siding that is either cut wrong or scratched. You will also pick up some useful skills.
Either be happy with it done wrong and poorly, or change it!
Imagine if a company took two years,lol, wouldnt be a company
I got the same quality on my Carolina Carport building install. Almost identical multiple problems as yours. Wasn’t happy with all of the mistakes made but decided to wash my hands of them and resolve all of the issues myself. Very disappointing and I would’ve built it myself if I had known the installers were that bad. I feel for ya buddy.
Good info.
Sorry about your issues with the contractor that installed your building. I'm in south Texas, and there's way more bad contractors than good ones. It doesn't matter whether they are in landscape, plumbing, electric, HVAC, or any other trade. Shoddy workmanship seems to be the rule instead of the exception here. If you're not making it your job to watch them doing their work, you're going to get a crappy job. Inexperienced, untrained, and unsupervised workers are everywhere down here. I hope you get your issues resolved with the contractor you're dealing with. Good luck!!!
I’m guessing this was Carolina Carports?
if you don't tell us who the builder is, it doesn't help us guys that are in the market for a building like yours, appreciate your video and I will keep an eye for this flaws when I have mine built, but you should consider telling who the builder is, thank you much.
I will reval the company in a future video. I want to get some sort of resolution first.
I feel your pain. On my latest barn had problems as well. My construction crew was good but just rolled with the delays the company I bought the barn from. I basically had to be the general manager to push to get it done in a timely manner. It still took about 2 months to get the barn done that should have been able to be finished in 4 to 5 days. Best of luck to you, and I hope they get it correct it.
Nice to hear from you Tim! Hope all is well.
3 months later and I do not see a video on the company? I am having a building put up shortly, pad done, but I am wondering who did yours? I am in NC. Thanks.
Those "studs" look like they are only about 2" x 2" which is way too skinny for these height studs. Maybe that is why they added the wind braces. Seems like there is no cross bracing in the walls or roof and all the wind loads are supposed to be taken up by the metal wall panels. Might be okay for a garage, but for a building the size of a barn this looks way too skinny. Will need to rat proof the corners with sheet metal somehow. Pretty unique idea to use such skinny studs and horizontal panel rib siding. Certainly saves steel! Not sure it meets code though. Did you have an engineer sign off on this?!
Beautiful build. thanks.
Why horizontal with the siding?
Excellent workmanship....
Your lucky!!! At least they tried to touch yours up
Why is the exterior sheet metal horizontal as opposed to vertical?
The problem with these sheds, there is such a demand that the builders rush putting them together. They don't care about quality, they only care about quantity. This is why I prefer doing things myself instead of wasting money on buying sheds from these companies. Mine may not be much better, but it's a heck of a lot cheaper.
That’s very sad! Sorry for the bad experience! Around how much does something like that cost?
Thanks! Just the building, not the foundation, was about $20k installed.
@@dehavenfamilyfarm Thanks!
That’s terrible I hope the company straightens with you. I was thinking of buying one of those buildings before I buy one I’m going to watch to see if you say who did this they have no pride in there work like you said they aren’t cheap I wish you the best hopefully they stand by there product.
Thank you for sharing this information. Good luck getting satisfaction
I hate you had those issues, I would have been mad also. Hope you get everything worked out. GOD BLESS YOU.
Also, where I live is desert so it doesn't rain every week or month. When the rains came and the roof leaked I called them and was told they only have a 30 day warranty. It was 3 months in. I fixed it myself and never used them for the next 2. Louses.
As the rest of us who has been thru this process, as you said, lot of money in your metal building, I would of been right there, it's your money and should of been right there and would seen all the mistakes, and there will be mistakes, you been there to catch them, and make sure that they are corrected, and really shocking that there wasn't a final build walk thru, but the building is nice
Behrs buildings shorted my building a foot . Never responded to my complaints. I'm in New milford pa. Not far from you. Good videos keep them up
Wow, that's terrible! Luckily we have not paid in full on the building yet. I was through New Milford today! Had to go out by Friendsville. Thanks 🙂
fortunately most of these issues are easy to resolve. lets hope the manufacturer makes it right.
These guys look like they all used to work at a bakery. Most bakeries have a saying, "its gonna be eaten so it only has to look good for a few minutes." I hope you like that metal cake.
You do not get what you expect, you get what you inspect.
Sorry for your frustration Chris. We have two of those type vendors locally and have used one of them o a project at work and they were great. Hopefully this company that you used will make some amends. Take care and have a blessed week my friend.
I hope they will too, but that remains to be seen... Thank you!
The building manufacturer could very well provide a good product. I worked for a concrete contractor that did excellent installations using experienced workers. Our bids for jobs were seldom the lowest but costumers that new our ability to provide an excellent job would choose us over the cheapest bidder.
My question, did you choose the cheapest installation bid?
I feel your pain. If you want something done to specs, often it requires you to do it yourself ...
Unfortunately that seems to be the case...
I had 3 of these put up and each has some issue. One has a roof leak that they will not fix. Another has a roll up door that comes down on it's own which is frustrating when trying to back out. And the third has been the least problematic with only a sticky roll up door that gives me a problems sometimes when trying to roll it up. None of these are as they could be. One was so bad I finally told them to remove it which they never did. I did get a refund on that one $5K.
Did you have to prepay for the building?If not I would withold final payment until every issue is addressed.
Thankyou VERY MUCH for your video I was just about to go with this type building. I have been juggling different material options, ship container, wood, steel, they all have pros& cons but watching your video I just changed my mind again!! I'm so sorry for the expense how very poorly they constructed your building how very disappointing!! You have very legitimate complaints I would DEFINATELY get the company to send a better crew out to fix these issues you shouldnt have to fix it you saved up to pay for it.
How much fill in the back? Looks like 4 ft
Also looks like a lot of dents in the grey metal below the window to the far right running to the corner of the building. Looks like some real shoddy workmanship.
Definitely shoddy workmanship. I will have to go check the spot you are referring to- thanks!
@@dehavenfamilyfarm Look at the beginning of your video. Look to the right of where you are standing at the grey metal. It looks likes dents where the screws are. I may be an oil can effect from over tightening the screws. Look at the three screws along the bottom of the grey metal. Around each screw it looks like the metal has wavy dents in it.
@@johnlyn1 To me it appears to be oil can effect, from over-driving.
Those squiggly scratches are from the drill bit walking on them!! I was a forman on many jobs and I got the customer to sign off on every job I finished and never got a call back in 40 years of doing that kind of work! It's very disturbing that you can't get good work anymore!!
See the daylight underneath the big door on the side and also in the corner of the building in the right front as you came in
Be interested in who put it in as I’m waiting for my building
The company I contracted from is out of North Carolina
Good luck
The company that installed this building is from NC- good luck to you as well!!
What a nightmare, I had a broker for mine, unknown at the time of conversation, but this guy passed himself as a company.
But the real company and their installers , not independent contractors were stellar. I was very lucky in this mine field of Metal buildings. I got everything I wanted that was specified in the contract.
I stayed all day with the installers, amazing what you find out talking to them and helping, getting them lunch and having a cooler full of water and Gatorade for them.
Things I learned:
Ask if the person you’re talking to is a broker?
Does the company employ their own installers or independent contractors?
Does the company source materials from a wholesale supplier? And they all do if they are based in that 50 mile area around Mt. Airy NC.
Can you build to the dimensions of the concrete pad, not inches away to the interior and I want the side panels to extend two inches down along the sides of the concrete pad.
Local references to go see and talk with the customer?
Lookup BBB complaints, deciding factor why I didn’t go with several companies.
I had the same experience with an Amish pole barn builder. They were quick, but boy were things sloppy. Overdriven screws, over-nailing of headers, torn/didn't tape house wrap, walk door wasn't shimmed/framed properly. What the heck are we paying these people for? And it's not like they were the cheapest!
You can't trust those Amish contractors, when you see that horse and buggy with Jebediah Construction Co. on the side of it bend over because you are about to get screwed.
You have some valid complaints. One thing I noticed right off is the forms are way too small 6+ inches on either side is the minimum . Also it is raised with backfill is it level ? Scratches are normal but you are correct lousy touch up. Fit and finish poor overall . Good luck getting it repaired you have your work cut out for you !
Looks like an eagle garage. If you look around on the floor, I’m sure they left plenty around so you can screw in spots where missing. Or you can collect up those extra screws with your truck or mower. Mine that was installed was delayed also. Buckles in metal. Scratches also. P!ss poor trimming. Gapping where panels overlap. And on and on.
I ordered a building and built it myself and its done right.
Chris, I'm about to have my metal building installed. I hadn't paid a thing yet. It's a 30'x 50' x12' metal building from Alan's Factory Outlet. I hope I don't go through this same azz chit! Good luck resolving the building issues. Don 👍🏽🤠 11/12/23
Hopefully they will do a good job for you. But after this experience, I would keep a close eye on them to avoid issues. Good luck and thanks for stopping by!
Have you had a rain yet? The building and siding appears to have been built inside the perimeter of the concrete pad. That means rain is not channeled to the outside, but drops onto the pad. Guess where it will go?
I know because I have a similar experience with same type of building. First rain we got flooded. Solution was to go to a sheet metal shop and have them make enough flashing that you can put at the bottom so the rain goes to the outside of the pad. Might have to cut the bottom of the siding so you can slip the top of the flashing underneath.
Talk about problems, our building has the roof put on wrong with a slope of only 1/8" per foot!!! Was supposed to be 3/12. Did not realize that until contractor was long gone. We also screwed up and got company from out of state because they were cheaper. Contract said if we did not like the work, had to go out of state to sue them. Get what you pay for, buy locally so you can put pressure on company to fix problems.
Did they fix the barn? And what was the company? I was think off get a barn from Allen's Direct.
This is just sad. And I'm sure this building was expensive, especially since prices on everything has gone up over the past few years. This is exactly why I hate to hire anybody and try to just do it myself. So sorry you had to deal with this crap.
that's a real shame, just way to many companies out there just don't care. if I were you i sure would be contacting them about the way things were done.
It is a shame. We did contact them and are waiting to hear back. If they don't want to fix things, I will not release the final payment. Thanks!
Also make sure to give us their name if they don’t fix it. Probably got a rookie crew.
Your garage door tracks are not square that's why it's binding. The siding is definitely too short. The corner trim you want to stop about a half inch from the bottom so that water doesn't Damm up at bottom. The swirls are where someone didn't know how to use an impact and slipped off the head and skipped down the building.
Did you add the roll up door interior slide locks? I want to put them on my doors, I only have the exterior ones.
Out in ca 12 years back i graded the pad had a 30 by 40 14 high walls 10 ft roll up door and a walk thru nice big sky lights the sheet metal is thick so it can take a snow load 24.000 turn key.
I did skid thru your video just a bit, did you ever mention the price of the building?? (sans concrete) and the overall dimensions?? Maybe you wish to keep that private, just looking for a ballpark price on that size installed, just the steel and insulated roof/door/rollup door?? They seem to be cheaper down south but I have to make a decision soon as it can take a year alone for delivery...
I can complete understand how your feeling about the build quality No one is going to care as much as you do because your standards are high but every thing can be fixed . I would like to have a lip over then pad not long enough that is really hard to fix after
That side door has a big gap on the left side at the bottom.
All that sighting should have overlapped the slab so water doesn't got screwed sorry dude
The barrel on the rollup door needs to be level. The guides (what you are calling jambs) need to be plumb, or the door will rub inside the guides. Are they bent? They can be finicky if not properly installed. The slide locks not lining up appear to be a manufacturing mistake but can be elongated without worry as they do not bear the weight of the door.
Your lucky my building caved in when we had the first foot of snow
I replaced it with an Amish garage and very happy with it
Sounds frustrating. Wish you the best. Good luck brother
Shouldn't the metal siding be vertical?