I think it depends on what you want from a sim racer. I used to have a racing wheel and stand, but needed the storage space back so sold up. The sims designed for a wheel are going to have more realistic and challenging handling but Forza is a mainstream game which most will use with a pad. And with a pad it’s definitely the best simulation style handling I’ve played. With a pad it’s easy to quickly check the position of the AI drivers and I’ve not had issues (and can rewind time if needed). For a more casual audience I think it’s pretty much perfect.
Absolutely agree; Forza has been and continues to be a fantastic arcade experience, and I hope more people understand that versus misunderstanding it and expecting it to be a highly-realistic sim racer
@@rajahbtw I think the lower Xbox console sales, bad publicity at launch and Forza Horizon has impacted numbers. It's not as flashy and exciting to draw in the casual crowd, and a lot of the sim fans have gone elsewhere. Sounds like the wheel gameplay has improved based on this video. Kind of surprising player numbers are bad considering it's included in Gamepass. We need these games to be successful for them to keep going and get sequels.
My biggest issue with getting back into it is still the individual car levels and customization being locked behind those levels. I don't want to have to spend 30 minutes to an hour driving around in free race just to be able to unlock all the car parts for a new car. I feel that was done for a very small crowd of people
@@MegaSockenschuss Yeah you play the game. Holy shit what an insane ask LOL. You easily rack up credits from online races so just have fun online and buy car upgrades. wtf even is this argument jfc. You can even make the game play for you by turning everything to assisted ffs
@@snipeifyer Well, no. Or yes, hypothetically. :D I personally always had the frustrating random disconnection bug roughly every second online race. And one of the last updates introduced a random CTD bug for SP races. I'm out of that s-show anyway.
I have been on Forza Motorsport for about six months now. It feels much better than at launch. And I am a Xbox player but there is still a lot of setup you have to do to dial in the advanced wheel setup. It definitely isn't a plug and play. But I really enjoy it. I like having the monthly updates and the opportunity to get new released cars with that but I don't have to grind it out like mad in fear of missing out. I totally agree with the AI for the drivatars. They are horrible on race starts. Lol.
My biggest issue is the A.I. They just don't seem to register your presence when you're making a pass in the corners and they don't give any room at all. At Lime Rock they can't navigate turns at all, many just run off into the grass and hardly recover. The A.I. model definitely needs work. Other than that, I feel I still love how far this sim has come.
They should give less attention to cars and get more tracks done. It is a sore point of most racing sim that you get a small amount of tracks and then the software becomes abandonware and you are left with doing the same thing day in and day out. I posted somewhere that they should do more track even if they are imaginary tracks and some people totally ragged on me because of this saying that people want real tracks: Well A: There is not a thousand of those. Maybe a 100 if you go around and pick every little piddly track around the globe.. so already that limits your choice. B: By now, it is a trop to have all the real life tracks in and it is getting to be a tired trope. You can only do so much until you get bored.... Unless they find ways to put in series and such which Forza seems to want to do, but that also as so much mileage and their series are often time limited and then disappear, which is another issue. Once you put in a series it should stay there and not vanish. It should simply give you the option to do it again. It would be content that piles up and extend what you can do. My take is that Forza needs a lot more tracks even if they are imaginary. They did some good ones but they need to do more. They really need to take this problem seriously. why? Assetta Corsa EVO is going to come and eat their lunch if moding is well supported. People will make tons of mods and cars and tracks and it will completely ruin a lot of games like GT7 and Forza, maybe not fully destroy gt 7 but many people might go the pc way for the amount of content. If the moding is as intense as it is/was for the original AC, i don't see any game selling that much from that point on. People will ad what other companies refused to do or were too lazy to do or could not afford to do and there will be no turning back. Imagine then inserting a track editor and letting people create tracks with their assets. We would end up with terrabytes of content pretty quickly. AC has been great at adding series and championship, cars and tracks. The only thing is that its graphic engine is at end of life so imagine the new one. It will be just plain crazy.
They haven’t patched all the bugs. The ‘built from the ground up” guy still works there. He was the biggest bug Forza has. Delete him! Nobody trusts liars. Sack the managers NOT the (temporary) devs.
Turn 10 failed and hard. Racing online still sucks and me personally I'm gonna go back and run forza7 . At least in that game the leader bord record's times in every division. Not just only the class leader bord.
Who cares about the AI? Nobody’s gunna race against a computer when you’ve got live lobbies are they? If so why? To unlock those cars just change settings to auto drive. I’d never do those ultra boring races myself. Yey I got a victory over a microchip! Well done Lewis!😂
If you are on PC, its trash. There are so many better options. AMS2, ACC, LMU, RRE, rF2 and of course iRacing. AMS2 is so amazing these days and in VR it's spectactular.
I think it depends on what you want from a sim racer. I used to have a racing wheel and stand, but needed the storage space back so sold up. The sims designed for a wheel are going to have more realistic and challenging handling but Forza is a mainstream game which most will use with a pad. And with a pad it’s definitely the best simulation style handling I’ve played.
With a pad it’s easy to quickly check the position of the AI drivers and I’ve not had issues (and can rewind time if needed).
For a more casual audience I think it’s pretty much perfect.
Absolutely agree; Forza has been and continues to be a fantastic arcade experience, and I hope more people understand that versus misunderstanding it and expecting it to be a highly-realistic sim racer
Mainstream with lowest online, gt7 made for pad too, but everything ok with it on wheel
@@rajahbtw I think the lower Xbox console sales, bad publicity at launch and Forza Horizon has impacted numbers. It's not as flashy and exciting to draw in the casual crowd, and a lot of the sim fans have gone elsewhere.
Sounds like the wheel gameplay has improved based on this video.
Kind of surprising player numbers are bad considering it's included in Gamepass. We need these games to be successful for them to keep going and get sequels.
All the content they added over the past year is stuff that should of been in the game to begin with. 2025 and beyond is when the support starts.
My biggest issue with getting back into it is still the individual car levels and customization being locked behind those levels. I don't want to have to spend 30 minutes to an hour driving around in free race just to be able to unlock all the car parts for a new car. I feel that was done for a very small crowd of people
You can buy car points with credits. just upgrade the car and when it says you don't have enough points, you get an option to buy them with credits.
@@snipeifyer And where do you get said credits from? Yeah... spending 30 minutes to an hour driving around in free race. :D
@@MegaSockenschuss Yeah you play the game. Holy shit what an insane ask LOL. You easily rack up credits from online races so just have fun online and buy car upgrades. wtf even is this argument jfc. You can even make the game play for you by turning everything to assisted ffs
@@snipeifyer Well, no. Or yes, hypothetically. :D
I personally always had the frustrating random disconnection bug roughly every second online race.
And one of the last updates introduced a random CTD bug for SP races.
I'm out of that s-show anyway.
You gotta be joking man. The upgrades are cheap as chips. Lazy you are!😂
I have been on Forza Motorsport for about six months now. It feels much better than at launch. And I am a Xbox player but there is still a lot of setup you have to do to dial in the advanced wheel setup. It definitely isn't a plug and play. But I really enjoy it. I like having the monthly updates and the opportunity to get new released cars with that but I don't have to grind it out like mad in fear of missing out. I totally agree with the AI for the drivatars. They are horrible on race starts. Lol.
My biggest issue is the A.I. They just don't seem to register your presence when you're making a pass in the corners and they don't give any room at all. At Lime Rock they can't navigate turns at all, many just run off into the grass and hardly recover. The A.I. model definitely needs work. Other than that, I feel I still love how far this sim has come.
They should give less attention to cars and get more tracks done. It is a sore point of most racing sim that you get a small amount of tracks and then the software becomes abandonware and you are left with doing the same thing day in and day out.
I posted somewhere that they should do more track even if they are imaginary tracks and some people totally ragged on me because of this saying that people want real tracks: Well A: There is not a thousand of those. Maybe a 100 if you go around and pick every little piddly track around the globe.. so already that limits your choice. B: By now, it is a trop to have all the real life tracks in and it is getting to be a tired trope. You can only do so much until you get bored.... Unless they find ways to put in series and such which Forza seems to want to do, but that also as so much mileage and their series are often time limited and then disappear, which is another issue. Once you put in a series it should stay there and not vanish. It should simply give you the option to do it again. It would be content that piles up and extend what you can do.
My take is that Forza needs a lot more tracks even if they are imaginary. They did some good ones but they need to do more. They really need to take this problem seriously.
why?
Assetta Corsa EVO is going to come and eat their lunch if moding is well supported. People will make tons of mods and cars and tracks and it will completely ruin a lot of games like GT7 and Forza, maybe not fully destroy gt 7 but many people might go the pc way for the amount of content. If the moding is as intense as it is/was for the original AC, i don't see any game selling that much from that point on. People will ad what other companies refused to do or were too lazy to do or could not afford to do and there will be no turning back. Imagine then inserting a track editor and letting people create tracks with their assets. We would end up with terrabytes of content pretty quickly. AC has been great at adding series and championship, cars and tracks. The only thing is that its graphic engine is at end of life so imagine the new one. It will be just plain crazy.
Absolute truth, especially about drivetar
Definitely have to get the settings dialled in(which I still haven’t managed) please tell me yours lol. And yes the AI super trash
They haven’t patched all the bugs. The ‘built from the ground up” guy still works there. He was the biggest bug Forza has. Delete him! Nobody trusts liars.
Sack the managers NOT the (temporary) devs.
Turn 10 failed and hard. Racing online still sucks and me personally I'm gonna go back and run forza7 . At least in that game the leader bord record's times in every division. Not just only the class leader bord.
Who cares about the AI? Nobody’s gunna race against a computer when you’ve got live lobbies are they? If so why? To unlock those cars just change settings to auto drive. I’d never do those ultra boring races myself. Yey I got a victory over a microchip! Well done Lewis!😂
If you are on PC, its trash. There are so many better options. AMS2, ACC, LMU, RRE, rF2 and of course iRacing. AMS2 is so amazing these days and in VR it's spectactular.