Nice honest review, thanks. I also have this saw and have had it for almost 2 years. It replaced a Delta bench top saw, that I now only refer to as a "table saw shaped object". Absolutely a Night and Day difference. One note to all of the folks comparing this to the DeWalt Job Site saw that another reviewed mentions. I looked at that saw, and for about the same cost, it also is a GREAT saw. The difference is really about what you want to do with it and if you really need portable. This saw has wheels, but is NOT portable. For me, the DeWalt would not have done the job. If you really want to use it for breaking down sheet goods, the DeWalt (in my opinion) simply doesn't have enough table surface. You would either need support on the left and outfeed, or have it built into a larger bench, or a helper, or two. Just my opinion. I too have upgraded the insert (same Etsy shop) and have several, including one for dados and one for 45 degree cuts. You are right that with the wings the table top isn't perfectly flat, but I don't have the rubbing and knocking that you do. I used a level across the top and clamped it to the cast iron and wings before tightening and that made a big difference. I have checked and adjusted it once (at about 1 year). The dust collection, as you noted is better than nothing (but only by a little) and to make real improvements I think you would need over the blade collection. The fence is, as you noted, rock solid and is one of the saw's strongest points. Absolutely no complaints here. I have taken the time to adjust both the blade and the fence to the miter slots as well as the riving knife to the blade. Kind of a pain, but worth the effort. I am using CMT full kerf (1/8") blades and have no issue with power. I have used the rip (24T) and cross cut (60T) blades on 8/4 Hickory and the saw does fine as long as you don't try to force the feed rate too fast. For me, the things making me consider upgrading are the fact that the cast iron top is not dead flat over its entire surface. When I am trying to do detail work, I have to spend a bunch of time fiddling with the blade angle because it is a few 10ths off if you are cutting 2" strips vs 12" strips. The slight variance in the cast iron on the right of the blade makes the smaller piece sit slightly differently. The other thing is I would honestly like a wider rip capability. I don't think I need anything crazy like 52", but 36 would be nice. And hey, who doesn't dream of a 3HP 220V Sawstop. One "accident" will pay for the difference, my issue is I don't really have a place to "semi-permanently" set up a saw like that. I have to roll mine around in the garage to cut larger stock. You noted that the wheels get caught in the expansion joints in the garage floor. That drove me nuts. I solved the problem with Sikaflex. You buy it in 10 oz caulk tubes at the orange big box store, and it self levels. I used sand to fill the deep part of the joint and then put this over it. I wish I had done it much earlier. Bottom line, for the $550 I paid in March 2020, it was an easy choice, and for a cast iron top table saw, you can't touch it for under $1000.
Hello David! You are a smorgasbord of good information sir! I more than appreciate your comment and I’ll pin you to the top for a while. Thank you again for watching!!
@@rdr4b Yes. I used the Sikaflex to fill the cracks/expansion joints in my garage floor so that I could roll the saw over it without it getting stuck and/or jarring the saw badly. It worked very well. Because the stuff isn't cheap, and the expansion joints can be wide, at least at the top, I filled them with sand up to maybe 1/4" left, and then used the Sikaflex. It is self leveling so it was great. The saw rolls over it just like the floor was flat with no joints. I don't have any issues with the wheel flipping when it shouldn't. Hope this helps! Let me know if you have any other questions.
This is also a problem for skateboarders and the solution at some skate spots is painters tape and some bondo to fill the cracks. Yank up the painters tape when done and no more claclack claclack in the spot you’re skating.
Those dark areas on the throat plate are metalized areas for the kick back pawls to land on. My first saw was a Delta Contractors 1.5hp. Fence was cupped so I fabricated a bolt over hardwood cap which 100% corrected problem. The single long belt contributed to vibration. The saw was VERY accurate after much setup. Built in-feed and out-feed runners with large right hand table w/ rails. Almost as good as the Unisaw.
Got the first gen of this model, used, for half-price off Craigslist. Best bang for buck I’ve spent in a long time. Great fence, quiet motor. Couldn’t be happier.😀
This was a really thorough review, thanks. Every question that popped into my head throughout this video was answered later. Going to buy this saw soon!
Considering the time invested in making the video, and the details, I really appreciate this info. One of the best table saw reviews Ive seen. You covered exactly what I wanted to see before I go plunk down some money. I'm replacing an old Craftsman, which burned out after 25 years. I'm not quite skilled enough to merit spending $2000 on a saw yet, so I like what I saw. Thanks a ton. Happy retirement!
Love that you didn't just unbox this and try and do an review. Most reviews I see on youtube the reviewer unboxes and gives you a day 1 review. While there is some value in that but how did the item hold up after extended use. Thank you for your insight and experience on this product!
Kelso! Every tool you see reviewed on this channel will be well used or tested first! That being said I have some tools I’ve never used for review but that will be a different kind of video and it’ll be well stated at the beginning. Thank you for watching!!
I’ve been researching a 1st table/contract saw, I weighed out my needs as a beginner, and found this checked most of my boxes. Price point makes this Delta an excellent choice for an entry level table saw that allows growth and appreciation. Great content , just subbed!!!!
Hello. This Delta saw really is great for beginners! I’ve been at this for 25 years and I love it too. I have a Ridgid R4520 in the shop now, look for at least a couple vids on that saw in the next month. It’s really your only other option at this price. Thanks for watching!
Thanks very much. I've been using this saw for 3 years. It does every thing I need whether I'm building cabinets or building a deck. This is a great saw. Thanks again.
Thanks for the review, my local Lowe's doesn't even have one on display. I've had my eye on this table saw for quite sometime and this is the first time I've seen a review on it. Well done sir.
Hello Alonzo! My local Lowes didn’t either. I drove an hour out to the burbs to check it out. When I get there it was the old 36-725 model. I wish I had a pic of it. The table top had thick rust and every knob and control was broken! Seeing the size of it sold me. Good luck with the decision and thanks for watching!
Nice Honest review. Thank you for the effort. I'm retiring soon and have been using a 30 year old Makita job saw for years. This might be my next purchase because of this video. Thanks again.
Nice job on the review. I also have that saw and i love it. Like you said the fence is great always perfectly straight. My cuts are always spot on. I built a sled for it which adds so much functionality.
Mr Vitale! You have a great name Sir! My maternal grandmother was a Vitale and she had a brother named Joe! I didn’t know I could love a table saw fence until I get that Delta. Thank you for watching!!
I just picked that model up after a long time of being away from woodworking. I really like it so far, and if I was going to say why I went for that one over any others, it was the only thing that didn't look like or feel like a cheap toy. Great video, keep up the good work.
I bought one and I really like it. One being in a garage where I park a car, I can roll it into a place and bring it out much easier that the contractor saw I had. It has great power for being a standard plug and I most of the time can run my vacuum and it at the same time on the same outlet. Once in awhile it pops, but most of the time not an issue.
Victor, You don't give any indication as to whether your garage is separate from, or attached to, your home, but it sounds like you need to upgrade your service as you're risking having a fire. Many garages, especially older ones, are wired with one 15 amp circuit and wired with old fashioned, two 14 gage (hot & neutral, no included third ground) wires in the cable which was intended for a couple of 60 watt light bulbs and maybe a small corded electric drill for homeowner puttering and such. Check with someone reputable and compare the cost to rebuilding your house. Especially if your homeowner's insurance won't cover it because they'll claim you intentionally overloaded the circuit beyond its rated capacity.
Nice review. I have this saw and I love it. FYI, there is no need to slide the fence on/off the rails. Fully unlock it and lift it straight up/down from the handle end. BTW, I managed to "force" my wings level by clamping them in place before tightening the screws that hold them.
Hello Alex! You are absolutely correct it'll just lift off. Overcomplicating simple things is a personality trait of mine. I have plans to install a cast iron router table and wing on that saw. If I as keeping the steel I would take them off and drill the mounting holes larger. I'm pretty sure they don't line up perfect on mine. I had them clamped to death last time I tried and got the same result. Thanks for watching!!
I've been eyeing this saw for a few months. Same deal, been using a crappy $150 craftsman (never again) table saw for a while now it it makes me crazy. Thanks for taking the time to sell me on this. LOL :)
I bought my Delta contractor saw almost 20 years ago. Mine has cast wings. I have made a lot of furniture with it over the years and it still cuts as accurate as it did back when it was new. I don't use it to cut large sheet goods (track saw) and so that isn't an issue for me. I seem to remember paying around $800 for it. It has served me very well over the years and I really can't justify putting out a thousand - plus dollars for a newer saw with all the bells and whistles. I made a zero clearance throat plate out of a piece of oak... keeps a lot of dust from hitting your face. :-) Good review... you have another sub. Keep them coming!!!
wow this si such an honest review - I mean I caome from Europe so I can't even buy this saw, but usually people are not that honest when they review their tools. Good job!
What good is a review of anything if it isn't honest? Every tool I review on this channel is well used and tested by me first! Thank you very much for the comment!
Thank you for such a great review! For a few months I've been between two minds on this saw and the Dewalt 7491RS, but I'm now ordering this saw from Lowes. Thanks again!
I've had mine for two years and never use that on-board blade storage so I completely forgot it comes with a blade wrench. I grab a wrench out of the toolbox every time. Thanks for the reminder.
I dont know man. I have had mine for a year, used it again yesterday and today, my table and extensions are flat. I paused you video, took my 6' level, I'm flat front to back, side to side and diagonal. You are spot on though, dust collection is not the greatest!!! And I love the fence. I upgrade to the Incra V27 miter gauge, I really like it. all in all, very good saw.
Hello Mike! Cool to hear yours is flat! I’ve been eyeballing Incras TS-LS fence system for years but my love of the OEM fence has held me back. Thanks for watching!
I have this saw and I absolutely LOVE it. I upgraded from a jobsite saw and the difference is unbelievable. The extra size is very handy. I adjusted it once when I bought it 1 year ago and have not touched it since. My extension wings are apparently flatter than the reviewer's wings. The cast iron table seems to be relatively flat. Not perfect perhaps, but light years ahead of my old saw. I am sure if you spent $4000 on a SawStop you would probably get a SLIGHTLY more accurate saw, but really guys, are we machining steel, or wood? And wood is a natural material that moves anyway. Bottom line, this is an awesome saw for the price, an incredible deal that I would highly recommend. I am not a professional but am a serious hobbyist that is constantly working on one project or the next and this saw has had heavy use and never let me down. I also installed my router table between the arms on the right and what a game changer in my small shop! Excellent review, I love your videos.
Thank you Ken and I agree. I still own every saw we’ve done a video on except the Ridgid R4520 and Hercules which were returned for defects. With ten saws to choose from I still prefer to use the Delta! Its size, weight and noise level just can’t be replaced by even a top quality job saw. Thanks for watching!
My wife has a quote that applys to this video,""An artist doesn't need the most expensive brush"" He is still and artist and can produce with whatever is at hand!
Good video. I have an old 1992 Delta Contractors saw that I bought with cast iron wings. They were not perfect either. I am not exactly sure from your video what the root cause is for the wings not being level with the table, but what I did was to shim the wings at the table side with folded over aluminum foil at a few points for the right thickness. If you need a lot, then a cut up aluminum soda can would work (or a sacrificed cheap feeler gauge). Clamp the wings in place until you get them as flat and level as possible with the shims and then screw them down. That did the trick for me and it''s been in service since '92 and working great.
Hello! The issue with mine is the wings themselves are not flat. They are higher around the perimeter of the wing and lower in the center. Could be from the stamping or from me pushing down or putting heavy stuff on it. Or both. I have it set up now with the wing perimeter flush with the table and they dip in the middle. At least they no long rub the fence. Eventually I’ll swap them out for cast iron. Thanks for the comment!
The only issue I found with my saw was the table was not dead flat, in my case when standing on the feed side of the table the outer left edge of my table was a bit proud front to back, so I ended up hitting the outer edge with a metal file using light passes until it looked good when using a straight edge across the table, to finish up I used 220 running up to 600 grit sandpaper until it match the finish of the rest of the table, now there are only a few places where you can’t quite fit a piece of paper between a straight edge and the table. I used a fine metal file and I also used a black paint marker on the area that I was filling, as soon as all the paint was removed I would check with a straight edge and repeat until I got ride of that proud edge. This process took me about 5 hours from start to finish, probably could have been quicker but I wanted to take my time to make sure I didn’t damage the table. Another easy option that probably would not cost much is remove the the motor and all components from the table, then take the table top to a machine shop, I doubt it would take them more than an hour to make the top dead flat, and honestly it would still cost less than a decent cabinet saw. As for the wings, I may have gotten lucky but I was able to clamp them in place and tighten everything down with no issues. I actually ended up sanding the paint layer off both wings prior to installing them as I wanted the wings to better match the table finish. As I see it I will not be upgrading to a cabinet saw from this saw, its pretty much dead flat now and built into an out feed table, I did not attach the legs, I built a nice out feed table on heavy duty casters and it’s absolutely perfect.
Hello Ross. Shame we can’t share pics in the comments I’d love to see the end result of all that effort. Goes to show almost anything can be done if your willing to put in the work. Great job and thanks for the comment!!
What are the overall dimensions of the cast iron top, then with the wings? Also, the dimensions from the right wing to the end of the fence rail, please. Not down to a 1/32”, just approximate, to the 1/4” is ok. Does the fence clamp on in the back as well, or just on the front rail ? I learned this tip a long time ago and still do it today. To quickly and accurately set the miter gauge to 90 degrees, put in the slot up-side-down, push in to the fence rail, and tighten the knob. It’s so quick and you never go wrong. Please, and thank you.
The auxiliary flip down fence thing is for when the fence is out on the rails beyond the table wings.It's there to hold sheet goods stock. Not sure why it's on the right side of the fence though. My jobsite DeWalt has it on the side facing the blade.
I was trying to decide between the Ridged and Delta saws and I am very happy I came across your video. I am definitely going to buy the Delta. Thank you very much for the video.
For the price tag this is an outstanding saw. I was fortunate that the morning I went to LOWES to purchase it the were having a 50% "Clearance." Even at the regular price I was expecting to pay the the negatives are definitely outweighed by the positives. The extension wings are frustrating, I due adjust them from time to time to get them good to go. All in all, this saw is definitely an upgrade form any portable saw and might be the most cost effective saw available to to most out there. I needed to upgrade from my old Craftsman but could no way justify or even afford a $1200+ saw. Great review and assessment.
I just got this saw, having trouble getting the legs to seat. I am going to cut some relief cuts on the inside parts. That should let them go into position. My 70 year old Craftsman has cast grid extensions. I am going to see if they will fit.
Brother, I love your reviews. I am replacing a Craftsman (no judgment :)). It's between this and the Dewalt DWE7491RS. You reviewed both. Really timely that I found you now. Thanks! Great job.
Thanks for your honest review I now own this table saw and I love it have not done any projects with it yet but I am sure it will do every thing I ask it to do
The best part of the review is how you said the fence stays in place well. I was worried and went back and forth between a Dewalt rack and pinion fence vs the traditional sliding fence. In the end, I went with Delta. $50 more than the popular Dewalt Jobsite saw. I have no plans on taking my saw to a job site. I am glad this review helped me make the right choice.
It’s been over a year since since this vid but I still agree! We’ll have a new Delta video soon because I need to square the blade to the miter slot. Thanks for watching!
I got this same saw a year ago from Lowes. My current saw at the time crapped out and I could not find a replacement motor. I was searching for a replacement and saw this on sale for 50% off so I immediate called and had one put one hold and then drove out and bought it and do not have a single regret.
As an FYI, I bought the Ridgid 4560 in January. It is literally the exact same saw. It is manufactured by Delta Equipment Company for Ridgid and it has a 15 amp motor, not 13. Other than the color differences, everything you pointed out is absolutely identical. Great review!
Hello! The saw I was referring to in the vid was actually the R4520. At the time I wasn’t aware of the R4560 because for some reason Rigid doesn’t promote it at all. It’s even hard to find on HD website if you actively search for it. Really weird. I’m sure your going to love your Rigid/Delta. It’s a great saw! Thanks for watching!
Yes...I bought my Ridgid version last year and a half ago and I love mine. I agree...people can buy $600 - $700 (and give most "intro-professional" performance) and sacrifice a few little things OR spend $1500 - $1800 (which they might be happier). But they have to weigh their Pros and Cons. I'm a seasonal person and I'm just happy that Ridgid/Delta can sell cheaper materials and give us a real Cast Iron Top table saw for under $700. If lose my Ridgid, I will buy again. There's no questions.
4:59 I'm not 100% sure but I want to say that flip down fence is for supporting your material when the fence extends past the table surface. My 8¼" Dewalt has the same thing but mine flips to the left side of the fence since the material sits on the left. Not sure if maybe this model can be be remounted on the opposite side? or if it is mainly for use when the fence is on the left side, or maybe I'm just completely wrong about it, lol.
@@ProjectsForAllReviews I think Hi-Gain is right. Could that flip down part or the whole fence be assembled wrong? My Skil-saw has the same same flip over and it is used to support what you are cutting that is over the opening when the fence extends as wide as it goes. When flipped over it sits even with the top of the TS.
I’m in the garage so I pulled the manual. They call it an aux fence. I cant put a pic in the comments but there’s no holes to mount it on the other side of the fence. When it’s flipped down the bracket will only allow it to lower to the table top height not below as you’d need if it was supporting stock. Sorry Gents. I will tell you your guess makes more sense than it’s actual purpose. 👍
@@ProjectsForAllReviews YT had a different video in my recommendation list dealing with the same saw and I could see his fence and flip was in the same position as yours so unless they are all wrong my guess is wrong for its purpose.
Hello, good rundown of this saw. I bought the 36-725 two years ago when the one you have was just being introduced but there isn’t much of a different. Some of what you talked about like the steel wings can be brought into better adjustment with some careful tweaking. No they don’t act like cast wings but they can be trued up pretty good. Adjusting the blade to the miter slot and the fence to the miter slot are easily done and once set they hold very well. I like the wheel system even though my old concrete floor is cracked and has small holes it still wheels around ok. I paid $599 + tax at Lowes but the next saw that was a step up I considered was a Jet ProShopII at about $1800. That saw has the trunnions attached to the cabinet not the table. BTW this saw is a lot better than buying an old Craftsman contractor saw that’s missing parts and will need a rebuild. This saw has a good riving knife and blade guard with adequate dust collection.
A question regarding adjusting blade to miter slot, is there a specific screw adjustment designed into the saw or did you find your own way? I haven’t found this specific answer. My old rigid does not.
Delta Machinery tech support provided me with a great color e-document with text and diagrams, contact their customer service for the information they have been very helpful. The BTW another tip about this machine, I have found thin kerf blades do not work well with the riving knife. The factory Delta blade is an odd 0.100” kerf thickness while thin kerf are usually 0.092” (3/32”). The riving knife is stamped to use with a minimum blade kerf of 0.100”. If you aren’t using the original blade with the riving knife use a full kerf blade (0.125”).
I did also just pick up a used Delta buck saw, very interesting how it will work with my radial ,and do what ever it takes to stay away from a table saw . In 40 years of wood cutting the most fingers or more have been lost by a table saw and band saws. 😎
Thanks for this. I've been on the fence about a few brands and could not justify the double /triple the cost over the performance I have read and watched on this saw. Thanks again for saving me $1000...lol.
Great review. I just went from a delta cabinet saw to this with the hekp of your review. The downsize was due to me moving and still needing a reliable accurate saw. I wanted to buy the dewalt for its price tag, and the mobility options. But just didnt feel as it would provide the accuracy i needed to build furniture with ease.
Agee on your findings of the fence... I bought this same fence and added it to my vintage 1969 Craftsman 113 table saw. With its cast extensions and router table adds, I'm getting 36" of rip to the right and 15" to the left. The fence installs beautifully and works excellent, as well as being rock solid.
That really cool! I’ll bet it could be adapted to almost any saw. It just needs the square tube on the front and angle iron on the back. If I’d known earlier how good it was I would have bought it years ago. Thank you for watching!
I have this saw and this is my 3rd one as the motor failed on the first two saws. Delta did warranty them and send me a new one. I have had my current one for about 1.5 years now and it is working well.
This was a very honest concise review, my partner has this saw, it is what it’s namesake calls it, a good contractor saw, not a cabinet saw by any stretch, if you want a cabinet saw, spring for the bucks and get a Powermatic, I have one, paid $3500.00, a huge departure from the Delta
I've been using a Craftsmen 10" portable table saw for 18 years. This ting is a dream of mine. Things wrong with my current saw are numerous, mostly parts unavailable.
3:20 I saw similar plastic protectors on one professional saw. It is to protect the throat plate when using throw back protectors. Sadly we in Europe are not so privileged to get a contractor saw under 1k$, there are only portable table saws that are flimsy or have a small working area.
Thanks for the review. I have the identical saw that I purchased from Lowes 3 months ago for $725.00 or so, could not be happier with the purchase. 2 weeks ago I purchased the Incra TSLS 36" positioner fence system and the JessEM stock guides. I took the Delta to the next level for accuracy. It was already accurate. Delta can hold its own against the likes of SawStop and Laguna. I have less money and more repeatable accuracy in my Delta by adding the Incra TSLS fence, JessEm Stock Guides and the Incra Miter5000 compared to Sawstop and Laguna.
Hello Theodore! Ive been eyeballing that Incra Fence system for years before I bought the Delta. It looks amazing! The stock fence though is so good I forgot about the Incra for now. It has been in the back of my mind as being a good vid and well get to it eventually I'm sure. Thanks for the comment!
I have been eyeing this saw for a year now. Just picked it up yesterday on clearance at Lowe's for $519. Signed up for a Lowe's pro credit card and received 20% off that price bringing it down to $441. Can't beat that for this caliber of saw.
That’s a sweet deal!! I wonder why it’s on clearance? For kicks I checked Lowes website and it shows out of stock. New model 🤔? Enjoy your saw! Thanks for watching!!
Thanks for the comprehensive review! I bought a Rigid from HD in July 2020. It comes with a Lifetime Service Agreement, why? Because it will be needed and when it is needed the service centers are so booked out it will likely take months for a repair. The blade raising and lowering mechanism gets stuck and when fully raised the belt drive mechanism disengages leaving no blade drive. It's been frustrating to own for this reason alone. The Rigid website and HD are useless for service or help.
Ive heard a fair amount of similar stories from viewers. The R4520 I bought and reviewed appeared to have an updated and much thicker plate on the trunnion. It had its own issues though and ended up back at HD. Thanks for watching and good luck!
Glad you like this saw I grew up using a massive Atlas table saw that my dad owned it was a big steel beast and very accurate I bet whomever he sold it to when I was in the military still owns it today .. I own a nice Jet table saw that is very accurate and also a steel beast with a very big table that handles full sheets of plywood .. I use it for custom cabinets for customers when needed … great honest video thanks ✌🏼🇺🇸
If you take the table extenders off and drill out the mounting holes you can get more adjustment also buy some shim stock and shim between the table and the extended table(wings) this will help get everything flat my rigid had the same issue I did this and it works well now, a little time consuming but works smoothly.
I have a 240V, 5HP Grizzly cabinet saw that I use in my shop, but I was using a $200 Kobalt jobsite saw away from the shop. A contractor ham-fistedly broke the blade height adjustment shaft on the Kobalt, so I bought this Delta last night. It doesn't fold up for travel, but it's a fine saw. The old saw that I replaced with the cheap Kobalt was a 30 year old Delta contractor's saw and I should have just gotten this saw then and there and not messed around with the cheapie Kobalt in the first place. By the way, you don't have to slide the fence on from the end. From anywhere above the saw, you can hook the back of the fence onto the back track then drop the front of the fence in place.
This video just showed up on youtube. I can understand what you say and the points made are accurate. I have a much older Ridgid tablesaw >>> 2424TS, had it for 20 years. I have built furniture with it mostly but did some cabinets too. My saw is almost a copycat of the old craftsman 113 series ( got three of them) but I run 220 on it. I had a regimen of biweekly checking tolerances before I shut down the mold making shop. Never had any trouble with accuracy, always within 1/64 of an inch true. Just take the time to learn the tool, it will take care of you.
Glad to hear it Jimmy! I’ve been waiting for a bad comment about this saw. 30k views and no horror stories yet. Suppose that says something. Thanks for watching!!
Hey everyone I really appreciate the video and all your feedback… I just bought mine and in the process of assembling… do the new ones still have motor issues?… should I still be buying this $100 kit I keep hearing about? … I’m reading conflicting articles about Delta fixing this, love you to hear your opinions
I spent a lot of time doing research on the table saw that would meet my needs. I am very limited for storage space for my equipment. At night both cars belong in the garage. In the end, it came down to the Delta or the Dewalt 7491. I ended up with the Dewalt because of space considerations. I am really happy with the Delta even though I would like a solid steel table top.
This DeWALT is a great alternative to a full size saw! If I had the same space limitations this would be most likely what I’d buy. Thanks for watching!
Good review for a great saw. I bought the T2 a couple years ago. I got a cast iron wing/router table for it from MLCS in Philly. Had to drill mounting holes in the new cast iron wing which was a new thing for me, and daunting. (Tech service at MLCS walked me thru the steps.) The cast iron wing is a few thou off being coplanar. I'm thinking a few shims might be a remedy some day when all my other pressing projects are done.... or maybe it's good enough.
Just checked out MLCS! Lots of good stuff on the website. Im currently eyeballing the SawStop router table and 1 SawStop wing for the other side both on Rockler. Im also not looking forward to drilling the cast iron. Thanks for watching!!
I’m guessing on the non-latching side of the fence it’s probably HDPE plastic the same as they use in those cutting boards for commercial use. I’ve actually bought those cutting boards cheap at Sam’s Club and used them in projects as runners.
In my dads shop he had pretty delta everything. This was the delta of 60 years ago. The table saw was 220 and a beast. Most of the tools were used daily and the table saw cut god knows how much teak mahogany for some old chris craft boats and cut enough cedar tongue and grove paneling to panel all walls in a 4000sqft house. None of the delta tool ever had issues. Also had delta table saws in a cabinet shop I worked at in college and those cut hard wood all day long including hard maple and some exotics that were harder than maple. I’m not sure if delta is still in the ballpark of the delta of 60-70 years ago but I think this saw might be the upgrade I’m looking for to replace the job site death trap I have now.
This was a great review. This saw seems to fill a pretty big gap in the market for an intermediate type saw between the smaller job site saws and the big boys. Just the fact that you can dial in the fence scale, and it actually remains reliable after taking the fence on and off, puts it head and shoulders above most job site saws.
Thank you! I agree it’s great to have a large saw option without the $1500 price tag. Not every one has that money to spend or needs the quality. Thanks for watching again! Ps I edited my response to your router question.
I have this saw and I always measure from the blade to the fence for precision cuts but use the scale for rough cuts even though I have the scale dialed in.
I also have this table saw. I had to adjust the blade insert so it was level with the cast iron top. If you are cutting small pieces of wood, then it has to be level with the top of the saw to get a perfect 90 degree cut. I wish that it was possible to wire the motor for 220 volts, but it is not. The motor draws 15 amps at 110v so it really puts a strain on the wiring in the shop. I will re-wire it in the (hopefully) near future. For the price of the saw, it will do what I need for now.
This saw is amazing. I bought the Jessem miter gauge and the two provide rock-solid accuracy and dependability. However, I did have to run the saw on a different breaker than my dust collector.
I still love this saw. I was just out in the garage looking at it. Now that I own about seven jobsite saws I could get rid of the Delta to save space but none of them compare to this quiet, heavy contractor saw. I’ll probably keep it for years. It pulls over 70 amps at startup which is why it needs its own circuit. Thanks for watching Michael!
Good review, I love this saw, only complaint is at 4 months the motor quit, a capasitor, a real pain, I had to load it on a trailer and take to a service Ctr, I’m still waiting for it to be fixed. I’ve read that they had a lot of issues with this
I’ve read about this too Bob. It’s a shame because it’s a great saw otherwise. I haven’t had any trouble with mine so far and hopefully it stays that way. Good luck and thanks for watching!
Dunno if anyone has mentioned, but Rockler sells cast iron wings for the SawStop CNS-175 that fit this Delta. Just need to drill two mounting holes and be rid of the stamped steel wings!
I do not own this saw but have used one and 👍👍. The few 1000’s of an inch on the wings seams to make virtually no difference in the accuracy on my 80’s Craftsman saw. As for the fence it’s dead accurate, I purchased it as an aftermarket. An upgrade I’d replace the miter gauge. This saw will easily make fine cabinetry, furniture, … I own a UniSaw yes it’s a much nicer saw but is it worth the extra cost ??? maybe if it’s your profession
My suggestion is buy the best quality, largest saw you can afford. Especially if your going to use it for jigs and wood working projects. This Delta is a great size for woodworking. I’ve had it maybe 4 years now and still love it. Good luck and thanks for watching!
Probably the best, to the point review I've ever seen. Great job, scratch that Fantastic Job!. I'm between this and a Delta 5000 series but you convinced me to go for the 5000. You said it well "If your retired making furniture....." yep thats me now. Im just shocked the steel inserts negate the nice iron top. This would have been fine for the decks, overhangs and other stuff I did before but now I'm doing tables and cabinets. So I didn't fully understand, after you tightened the screws, did it take the slack out of all the angle stops? Great, Great review Brother, you made me a subscriber. Thanks much for the review.
Thank You very much! Those steel wings do tighten down and the bow in them isn’t visible to the eye. You only realize there’s a problem until you run the fence over them or a straight edge. If I understand your question correctly. I’ve been looking at the 5000 series and can’t find a difference from this saw other than the cast wings. I was curious because the price difference is large for just that option but I may be missing something. Thank you again for watching and subscribing!!
On the fence, the rear piece of metal isn't for clamping. It's just a guide. All of the clamping is done from the front side. That's why it's able to be self aligning.
I have had the Delta 36-725 model for about 6 years. Very pleased with it. Don't give up on getting the stamped wings flat. It takes some time, but can be done. Don't know about the model you have but the one I have has a switch on the motor for 220v operation. I have had it on that for about two years and seems to be stronger and smoother running. I am interested in the DNC blade insert you got for it. Would love to have a link .
Hello Dgrasha! Im no electrician but I believe on 220v you run less amps and therefore less heat and more longevity. When we built the garage I put in a 100 amp sub panel and 3 220v plugs, possibly my favorite house upgrade to date👍. Ill put the Etsy link for the table inserts in the description for everyone. Thanks for watching!!
Thanks for your efforts. I was ready to pull the trigger on a one year used rigid for 250 and saw your reviews. Both are well done and a big help. I may stick w/my current rigid jobsite saw for now and step up to this Delta in the near future. But your advise is appreciated.
$250 is not a bad price for this Ridgid. The nice thing about buying used is you can bring some tools to measure and confirm nothings wrong with it before you buy. For that price you could afford to buy the Delta fence for the Ridgid. Or just buy a Delta….Thanks for watching!
Outstanding review on the details of the saw itself. And, how well you delivered. Well done. Question: what is the length from the blade, to where the fence slides on? I’m guessing close to 33”, give or take. Also, since you didn’t mention it as a downfall, I’m guessing that the blade, start of cut, to end of cut (front to back) is nice and straight? Not so with my Home Depot Ryobi🙄 Enough is enough.
5:02 I think you have your fence on backwards or something. That little flip down piece should flip down on the blade side. I think it also doubles as a material support when making really wide rips
Hello Mike! That little flip fence was installed at the factory. I looked at it close when someone else had the same comment. It isn’t designed to be installed on the other side and it’s bracket doesn’t allow it to sit any lower than the saw top making it impossible to use as a support. I think the brackets were in the way too if I remember. A support would be more useful though IMO as I’ve never used that little fence. Thanks for watching!
Someone may have already answered this for you. The plastic parts at the back of the throat plate are for the kickback paws to rest on. I guess it helps to keep them grippy.
Nice honest review, thanks.
I also have this saw and have had it for almost 2 years. It replaced a Delta bench top saw, that I now only refer to as a "table saw shaped object". Absolutely a Night and Day difference.
One note to all of the folks comparing this to the DeWalt Job Site saw that another reviewed mentions. I looked at that saw, and for about the same cost, it also is a GREAT saw. The difference is really about what you want to do with it and if you really need portable. This saw has wheels, but is NOT portable. For me, the DeWalt would not have done the job. If you really want to use it for breaking down sheet goods, the DeWalt (in my opinion) simply doesn't have enough table surface. You would either need support on the left and outfeed, or have it built into a larger bench, or a helper, or two. Just my opinion.
I too have upgraded the insert (same Etsy shop) and have several, including one for dados and one for 45 degree cuts.
You are right that with the wings the table top isn't perfectly flat, but I don't have the rubbing and knocking that you do. I used a level across the top and clamped it to the cast iron and wings before tightening and that made a big difference. I have checked and adjusted it once (at about 1 year).
The dust collection, as you noted is better than nothing (but only by a little) and to make real improvements I think you would need over the blade collection.
The fence is, as you noted, rock solid and is one of the saw's strongest points. Absolutely no complaints here.
I have taken the time to adjust both the blade and the fence to the miter slots as well as the riving knife to the blade. Kind of a pain, but worth the effort.
I am using CMT full kerf (1/8") blades and have no issue with power. I have used the rip (24T) and cross cut (60T) blades on 8/4 Hickory and the saw does fine as long as you don't try to force the feed rate too fast.
For me, the things making me consider upgrading are the fact that the cast iron top is not dead flat over its entire surface. When I am trying to do detail work, I have to spend a bunch of time fiddling with the blade angle because it is a few 10ths off if you are cutting 2" strips vs 12" strips. The slight variance in the cast iron on the right of the blade makes the smaller piece sit slightly differently. The other thing is I would honestly like a wider rip capability. I don't think I need anything crazy like 52", but 36 would be nice. And hey, who doesn't dream of a 3HP 220V Sawstop. One "accident" will pay for the difference, my issue is I don't really have a place to "semi-permanently" set up a saw like that. I have to roll mine around in the garage to cut larger stock.
You noted that the wheels get caught in the expansion joints in the garage floor. That drove me nuts. I solved the problem with Sikaflex. You buy it in 10 oz caulk tubes at the orange big box store, and it self levels. I used sand to fill the deep part of the joint and then put this over it. I wish I had done it much earlier.
Bottom line, for the $550 I paid in March 2020, it was an easy choice, and for a cast iron top table saw, you can't touch it for under $1000.
Hello David! You are a smorgasbord of good information sir! I more than appreciate your comment and I’ll pin you to the top for a while. Thank you again for watching!!
Hi, David, Would you mind sharing what you do with the wheel using Sikaflex? Did you complete secure the mechanism so the wheel won't flip?
@@rdr4b Yes. I used the Sikaflex to fill the cracks/expansion joints in my garage floor so that I could roll the saw over it without it getting stuck and/or jarring the saw badly. It worked very well. Because the stuff isn't cheap, and the expansion joints can be wide, at least at the top, I filled them with sand up to maybe 1/4" left, and then used the Sikaflex. It is self leveling so it was great. The saw rolls over it just like the floor was flat with no joints. I don't have any issues with the wheel flipping when it shouldn't. Hope this helps! Let me know if you have any other questions.
This is also a problem for skateboarders and the solution at some skate spots is painters tape and some bondo to fill the cracks. Yank up the painters tape when done and no more claclack claclack in the spot you’re skating.
I have had the previous one , the T1, for 8 yrs. Best saw ever for the price
2 years later fantastic freaking video! Wasn’t looking for a delta. And ran across this video. You sold me 😂
Great review. Detailed and honest. Pros and cons. Appreciate the time you spent doing it.
Thank you Rich!
Those dark areas on the throat plate are metalized areas for the kick back pawls to land on. My first saw was a Delta Contractors 1.5hp. Fence was cupped so I fabricated a bolt over hardwood cap which 100% corrected problem. The single long belt contributed to vibration. The saw was VERY accurate after much setup. Built in-feed and out-feed runners with large right hand table w/ rails. Almost as good as the Unisaw.
Got the first gen of this model, used, for half-price off Craigslist. Best bang for buck I’ve spent in a long time. Great fence, quiet motor. Couldn’t be happier.😀
thanks for content,
I think the patches on the throat plate are to minimise wear from the anti kickback paws.
I think your right Michael! Thanks for watching!
That makes a lot of sense. I don't use the kickback pawls, but I was wondering why they added the thin plates on there.
This was a really thorough review, thanks. Every question that popped into my head throughout this video was answered later. Going to buy this saw soon!
Thanks Garrett! Always happy to hear I helped!
Thanks so much for a no-BS review. I can tell this was from the heart with no corporate sponsor influence. Liked and subscribed.
I went from a $100 saw to this saw, absolutely love this saw.
Considering the time invested in making the video, and the details, I really appreciate this info. One of the best table saw reviews Ive seen. You covered exactly what I wanted to see before I go plunk down some money. I'm replacing an old Craftsman, which burned out after 25 years. I'm not quite skilled enough to merit spending $2000 on a saw yet, so I like what I saw. Thanks a ton. Happy retirement!
The black metal sections of the throat plate are to keep the "anti-kickback" pawls from jamming into the plastic, the metal section lets them slide.
Love that you didn't just unbox this and try and do an review. Most reviews I see on youtube the reviewer unboxes and gives you a day 1 review. While there is some value in that but how did the item hold up after extended use. Thank you for your insight and experience on this product!
Kelso! Every tool you see reviewed on this channel will be well used or tested first! That being said I have some tools I’ve never used for review but that will be a different kind of video and it’ll be well stated at the beginning. Thank you for watching!!
I’ve been researching a 1st table/contract saw, I weighed out my needs as a beginner, and found this checked most of my boxes. Price point makes this Delta an excellent choice for an entry level table saw that allows growth and appreciation. Great content , just subbed!!!!
Hello. This Delta saw really is great for beginners! I’ve been at this for 25 years and I love it too. I have a Ridgid R4520 in the shop now, look for at least a couple vids on that saw in the next month. It’s really your only other option at this price. Thanks for watching!
This is what I've been looking for! This is about to be the first table saw I purchase as it just came back in stock at the local blue big box.
I would think about what you want to do in the future rather than upgrading all the time, from someone whos there right now.
You were not kidding how quiet this saw is! I found mine gently used and the owner added some upgrades. So thank you for the detailed review.
Thank you for the great review. Purchasing one now from Lowes. I was primarily concerned with the fence and you definitely answered that question.
Glad I helped. Thanks for watching!
I guess the plastic inserts at the back of the throat plate should be for the anti-kickback to rest on so they dont damage the paint
Thanks very much. I've been using this saw for 3 years. It does every thing I need whether I'm building cabinets or building a deck. This is a great saw. Thanks again.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks!
Thanks for the review, my local Lowe's doesn't even have one on display. I've had my eye on this table saw for quite sometime and this is the first time I've seen a review on it. Well done sir.
Hello Alonzo! My local Lowes didn’t either. I drove an hour out to the burbs to check it out. When I get there it was the old 36-725 model. I wish I had a pic of it. The table top had thick rust and every knob and control was broken! Seeing the size of it sold me. Good luck with the decision and thanks for watching!
Nice Honest review. Thank you for the effort. I'm retiring soon and have been using a 30 year old Makita job saw for years. This might be my next purchase because of this video. Thanks again.
Nice job on the review. I also have that saw and i love it. Like you said the fence is great always perfectly straight. My cuts are always spot on. I built a sled for it which adds so much functionality.
Mr Vitale! You have a great name Sir! My maternal grandmother was a Vitale and she had a brother named Joe!
I didn’t know I could love a table saw fence until I get that Delta. Thank you for watching!!
I just picked that model up after a long time of being away from woodworking. I really like it so far, and if I was going to say why I went for that one over any others, it was the only thing that didn't look like or feel like a cheap toy. Great video, keep up the good work.
Thank you for the comment!
Good to hear. Im thinking about getting this style myself
My motor lit on fire after 4 hours of run time. How’s yours doing?
Awesome! I’ve looked at this saw several times at lowes, and this was the review that’ll have me in my truck to get one tomorrow morning.
Glad I could help! Good luck with the new saw!
Very nicely done. I felt just like my friend was talking to me and telling me your story.
I bought one and I really like it. One being in a garage where I park a car, I can roll it into a place and bring it out much easier that the contractor saw I had. It has great power for being a standard plug and I most of the time can run my vacuum and it at the same time on the same outlet. Once in awhile it pops, but most of the time not an issue.
When we built that garage a couple years ago I parked my car in it the first night. Hasn’t been a car in there since 😆 Thanks for watching!!
Victor,
You don't give any indication as to whether your garage is separate from, or attached to, your home, but it sounds like you need to upgrade your service as you're risking having a fire. Many garages, especially older ones, are wired with one 15 amp circuit and wired with old fashioned, two 14 gage (hot & neutral, no included third ground) wires in the cable which was intended for a couple of 60 watt light bulbs and maybe a small corded electric drill for homeowner puttering and such. Check with someone reputable and compare the cost to rebuilding your house. Especially if your homeowner's insurance won't cover it because they'll claim you intentionally overloaded the circuit beyond its rated capacity.
What is the selling price for this product in the United States of America?
Nice review. I have this saw and I love it. FYI, there is no need to slide the fence on/off the rails. Fully unlock it and lift it straight up/down from the handle end. BTW, I managed to "force" my wings level by clamping them in place before tightening the screws that hold them.
Hello Alex! You are absolutely correct it'll just lift off. Overcomplicating simple things is a personality trait of mine. I have plans to install a cast iron router table and wing on that saw. If I as keeping the steel I would take them off and drill the mounting holes larger. I'm pretty sure they don't line up perfect on mine. I had them clamped to death last time I tried and got the same result. Thanks for watching!!
I have had this saw for years. For price point it is hard to beat.
I've been eyeing this saw for a few months. Same deal, been using a crappy $150 craftsman (never again) table saw for a while now it it makes me crazy. Thanks for taking the time to sell me on this. LOL :)
Glad I helped! Good luck with the new saw!
I bought my Delta contractor saw almost 20 years ago. Mine has cast wings. I have made a lot of furniture with it over the years and it still cuts as accurate as it did back when it was new. I don't use it to cut large sheet goods (track saw) and so that isn't an issue for me. I seem to remember paying around $800 for it. It has served me very well over the years and I really can't justify putting out a thousand - plus dollars for a newer saw with all the bells and whistles.
I made a zero clearance throat plate out of a piece of oak... keeps a lot of dust from hitting your face. :-)
Good review... you have another sub. Keep them coming!!!
Thank you Bobby! Got some good stuff on the way!
wow this si such an honest review - I mean I caome from Europe so I can't even buy this saw, but usually people are not that honest when they review their tools. Good job!
What good is a review of anything if it isn't honest? Every tool I review on this channel is well used and tested by me first! Thank you very much for the comment!
Thank you for such a great review! For a few months I've been between two minds on this saw and the Dewalt 7491RS, but I'm now ordering this saw from Lowes. Thanks again!
Glad the vid helped Rami! Thanks for watching!
I've had mine for two years and never use that on-board blade storage so I completely forgot it comes with a blade wrench. I grab a wrench out of the toolbox every time. Thanks for the reminder.
I dont know man. I have had mine for a year, used it again yesterday and today, my table and extensions are flat. I paused you video, took my 6' level, I'm flat front to back, side to side and diagonal. You are spot on though, dust collection is not the greatest!!! And I love the fence. I upgrade to the Incra V27 miter gauge, I really like it. all in all, very good saw.
Hello Mike! Cool to hear yours is flat! I’ve been eyeballing Incras TS-LS fence system for years but my love of the OEM fence has held me back. Thanks for watching!
I have this saw and I absolutely LOVE it. I upgraded from a jobsite saw and the difference is unbelievable. The extra size is very handy. I adjusted it once when I bought it 1 year ago and have not touched it since. My extension wings are apparently flatter than the reviewer's wings. The cast iron table seems to be relatively flat. Not perfect perhaps, but light years ahead of my old saw. I am sure if you spent $4000 on a SawStop you would probably get a SLIGHTLY more accurate saw, but really guys, are we machining steel, or wood? And wood is a natural material that moves anyway. Bottom line, this is an awesome saw for the price, an incredible deal that I would highly recommend. I am not a professional but am a serious hobbyist that is constantly working on one project or the next and this saw has had heavy use and never let me down. I also installed my router table between the arms on the right and what a game changer in my small shop! Excellent review, I love your videos.
Thank you Ken and I agree. I still own every saw we’ve done a video on except the Ridgid R4520 and Hercules which were returned for defects. With ten saws to choose from I still prefer to use the Delta! Its size, weight and noise level just can’t be replaced by even a top quality job saw. Thanks for watching!
My wife has a quote that applys to this video,""An artist doesn't need the most expensive brush"" He is still and artist and can produce with whatever is at hand!
This is a great quote from clearly a wise woman! Thanks for sharing it!
@@ProjectsForAllReviews Way to wise for me and smarter as well! LOL!
Good video. I have an old 1992 Delta Contractors saw that I bought with cast iron wings. They were not perfect either. I am not exactly sure from your video what the root cause is for the wings not being level with the table, but what I did was to shim the wings at the table side with folded over aluminum foil at a few points for the right thickness. If you need a lot, then a cut up aluminum soda can would work (or a sacrificed cheap feeler gauge). Clamp the wings in place until you get them as flat and level as possible with the shims and then screw them down. That did the trick for me and it''s been in service since '92 and working great.
Hello! The issue with mine is the wings themselves are not flat. They are higher around the perimeter of the wing and lower in the center. Could be from the stamping or from me pushing down or putting heavy stuff on it. Or both. I have it set up now with the wing perimeter flush with the table and they dip in the middle. At least they no long rub the fence. Eventually I’ll swap them out for cast iron. Thanks for the comment!
I have the same one. After owning for a year I finally managed to use it. The motor breaker pops from just running. It’s basically a paper weight.
The only issue I found with my saw was the table was not dead flat, in my case when standing on the feed side of the table the outer left edge of my table was a bit proud front to back, so I ended up hitting the outer edge with a metal file using light passes until it looked good when using a straight edge across the table, to finish up I used 220 running up to 600 grit sandpaper until it match the finish of the rest of the table, now there are only a few places where you can’t quite fit a piece of paper between a straight edge and the table. I used a fine metal file and I also used a black paint marker on the area that I was filling, as soon as all the paint was removed I would check with a straight edge and repeat until I got ride of that proud edge. This process took me about 5 hours from start to finish, probably could have been quicker but I wanted to take my time to make sure I didn’t damage the table.
Another easy option that probably would not cost much is remove the the motor and all components from the table, then take the table top to a machine shop, I doubt it would take them more than an hour to make the top dead flat, and honestly it would still cost less than a decent cabinet saw.
As for the wings, I may have gotten lucky but I was able to clamp them in place and tighten everything down with no issues. I actually ended up sanding the paint layer off both wings prior to installing them as I wanted the wings to better match the table finish. As I see it I will not be upgrading to a cabinet saw from this saw, its pretty much dead flat now and built into an out feed table, I did not attach the legs, I built a nice out feed table on heavy duty casters and it’s absolutely perfect.
Hello Ross. Shame we can’t share pics in the comments I’d love to see the end result of all that effort. Goes to show almost anything can be done if your willing to put in the work. Great job and thanks for the comment!!
What are the overall dimensions of the cast iron top, then with the wings?
Also, the dimensions from the right wing to the end of the fence rail, please.
Not down to a 1/32”, just approximate, to the 1/4” is ok.
Does the fence clamp on in the back as well, or just on the front rail ?
I learned this tip a long time ago and still do it today.
To quickly and accurately set the miter gauge to 90 degrees, put in the slot up-side-down, push in to the fence rail, and tighten the knob. It’s so quick and you never go wrong.
Please, and thank you.
Awesome full review. Thanks for taking the time and the great content. Exactly what I was looking for!
Glad I could help! Thanks for watching!!
The auxiliary flip down fence thing is for when the fence is out on the rails beyond the table wings.It's there to hold sheet goods stock. Not sure why it's on the right side of the fence though. My jobsite DeWalt has it on the side facing the blade.
I was trying to decide between the Ridged and Delta saws and I am very happy I came across your video. I am definitely going to buy the Delta. Thank you very much for the video.
Your welcome! Happy I could help. I don’t think you will be disappointed! Thanks for watching!
Very honest video for 600 dollars better than nothing but to have one for the start .
Thanks for watching David!
For the price tag this is an outstanding saw. I was fortunate that the morning I went to LOWES to purchase it the were having a 50% "Clearance." Even at the regular price I was expecting to pay the the negatives are definitely outweighed by the positives. The extension wings are frustrating, I due adjust them from time to time to get them good to go. All in all, this saw is definitely an upgrade form any portable saw and might be the most cost effective saw available to to most out there. I needed to upgrade from my old Craftsman but could no way justify or even afford a $1200+ saw. Great review and assessment.
Hello Mike! Eventually I’ll get a Ridgid and a big dollar saw in here to compare. The Delta was money well spent for me though. Thanks for watching!
I just got this saw, having trouble getting the legs to seat. I am going to cut some relief cuts on the inside parts. That should let them go into position. My 70 year old Craftsman has cast grid extensions. I am going to see if they will fit.
Brother, I love your reviews. I am replacing a Craftsman (no judgment :)). It's between this and the Dewalt DWE7491RS. You reviewed both. Really timely that I found you now. Thanks! Great job.
Thanks Doyin! Good luck with the new saw!
Thanks for your honest review I now own this table saw and I love it have not done any projects with it yet but I am sure it will do every thing I ask it to do
Thanks for watching Jimmie!
Adjusting the fence exactly how you described is exactly why I bought the new Delta.
The fence is why I bought it too! Thanks for watching!
The best part of the review is how you said the fence stays in place well. I was worried and went back and forth between a Dewalt rack and pinion fence vs the traditional sliding fence. In the end, I went with Delta. $50 more than the popular Dewalt Jobsite saw. I have no plans on taking my saw to a job site. I am glad this review helped me make the right choice.
Very happy to hear the vid helped Juan! Thanks for watching!
I had the same model for 3 years and sold it when I moved. I’m looking at picking up another soon as it’s a great saw and great value.
If mine grew legs I’d buy another the next day. Good luck Mike!
I’ve had mine for years I love it.
It’s been over a year since since this vid but I still agree! We’ll have a new Delta video soon because I need to square the blade to the miter slot. Thanks for watching!
I got this same saw a year ago from Lowes. My current saw at the time crapped out and I could not find a replacement motor. I was searching for a replacement and saw this on sale for 50% off so I immediate called and had one put one hold and then drove out and bought it and do not have a single regret.
50% off is a sweet deal!! Thanks for watching!
As an FYI, I bought the Ridgid 4560 in January. It is literally the exact same saw. It is manufactured by Delta Equipment Company for Ridgid and it has a 15 amp motor, not 13. Other than the color differences, everything you pointed out is absolutely identical. Great review!
Hello! The saw I was referring to in the vid was actually the R4520. At the time I wasn’t aware of the R4560 because for some reason Rigid doesn’t promote it at all. It’s even hard to find on HD website if you actively search for it. Really weird. I’m sure your going to love your Rigid/Delta. It’s a great saw! Thanks for watching!
Yes...I bought my Ridgid version last year and a half ago and I love mine. I agree...people can buy $600 - $700 (and give most "intro-professional" performance) and sacrifice a few little things OR spend $1500 - $1800 (which they might be happier). But they have to weigh their Pros and Cons. I'm a seasonal person and I'm just happy that Ridgid/Delta can sell cheaper materials and give us a real Cast Iron Top table saw for under $700. If lose my Ridgid, I will buy again. There's no questions.
This is an outstanding , very honest, and insightful review. I learned a lot to help me make my buying decision.
Thanks Robert!! I’m glad I helped!!
4:59 I'm not 100% sure but I want to say that flip down fence is for supporting your material when the fence extends past the table surface. My 8¼" Dewalt has the same thing but mine flips to the left side of the fence since the material sits on the left. Not sure if maybe this model can be be remounted on the opposite side? or if it is mainly for use when the fence is on the left side, or maybe I'm just completely wrong about it, lol.
That’s a fair guess but the manual says for thin stock. A support like that would not be a bad idea though. Thanks for watching!
@@ProjectsForAllReviews interesting. Thanks for the response.
@@ProjectsForAllReviews I think Hi-Gain is right. Could that flip down part or the whole fence be assembled wrong? My Skil-saw has the same same flip over and it is used to support what you are cutting that is over the opening when the fence extends as wide as it goes. When flipped over it sits even with the top of the TS.
I’m in the garage so I pulled the manual. They call it an aux fence. I cant put a pic in the comments but there’s no holes to mount it on the other side of the fence. When it’s flipped down the bracket will only allow it to lower to the table top height not below as you’d need if it was supporting stock. Sorry Gents. I will tell you your guess makes more sense than it’s actual purpose. 👍
@@ProjectsForAllReviews YT had a different video in my recommendation list dealing with the same saw and I could see his fence and flip was in the same position as yours so unless they are all wrong my guess is wrong for its purpose.
Hello, good rundown of this saw. I bought the 36-725 two years ago when the one you have was just being introduced but there isn’t much of a different. Some of what you talked about like the steel wings can be brought into better adjustment with some careful tweaking. No they don’t act like cast wings but they can be trued up pretty good. Adjusting the blade to the miter slot and the fence to the miter slot are easily done and once set they hold very well. I like the wheel system even though my old concrete floor is cracked and has small holes it still wheels around ok. I paid $599 + tax at Lowes but the next saw that was a step up I considered was a Jet ProShopII at about $1800. That saw has the trunnions attached to the cabinet not the table. BTW this saw is a lot better than buying an old Craftsman contractor saw that’s missing parts and will need a rebuild. This saw has a good riving knife and blade guard with adequate dust collection.
I agree this new saw is better than buying an old vintage saw. I do wonder how it compares to say a Laguna F1. Thanks for watching!
A question regarding adjusting blade to miter slot, is there a specific screw adjustment designed into the saw or did you find your own way? I haven’t found this specific answer. My old rigid does not.
Delta Machinery tech support provided me with a great color e-document with text and diagrams, contact their customer service for the information they have been very helpful. The
BTW another tip about this machine, I have found thin kerf blades do not work well with the riving knife. The factory Delta blade is an odd 0.100” kerf thickness while thin kerf are usually 0.092” (3/32”). The riving knife is stamped to use with a minimum blade kerf of 0.100”. If you aren’t using the original blade with the riving knife use a full kerf blade (0.125”).
I did also just pick up a used Delta buck saw, very interesting how it will work with my radial ,and do what ever it takes to stay away from a table saw . In 40 years of wood cutting the most fingers or more have been lost by a table saw and band saws. 😎
Really like your table saw reviews. Love the detail.
Thanks for watching Paul!
Thanks for this. I've been on the fence about a few brands and could not justify the double /triple the cost over the performance I have read and watched on this saw.
Thanks again for saving me $1000...lol.
Happy I helped. Thanks for watching!!
Great review. I just went from a delta cabinet saw to this with the hekp of your review. The downsize was due to me moving and still needing a reliable accurate saw. I wanted to buy the dewalt for its price tag, and the mobility options. But just didnt feel as it would provide the accuracy i needed to build furniture with ease.
Agee on your findings of the fence... I bought this same fence and added it to my vintage 1969 Craftsman 113 table saw. With its cast extensions and router table adds, I'm getting 36" of rip to the right and 15" to the left. The fence installs beautifully and works excellent, as well as being rock solid.
That really cool! I’ll bet it could be adapted to almost any saw. It just needs the square tube on the front and angle iron on the back. If I’d known earlier how good it was I would have bought it years ago. Thank you for watching!
I have this saw and this is my 3rd one as the motor failed on the first two saws. Delta did warranty them and send me a new one. I have had my current one for about 1.5 years now and it is working well.
Crazy! Hopefully this one lasts! The one in the vids still going strong and pushing 5 years old. Thanks for watching Chris!
Thank you very much for your video! Excellent review and I like your style. Subscribed and I wish you all the best.
Thank you Dan!
This was a very honest concise review, my partner has this saw, it is what it’s namesake calls it, a good contractor saw, not a cabinet saw by any stretch, if you want a cabinet saw, spring for the bucks and get a Powermatic, I have one, paid $3500.00, a huge departure from the Delta
Agreed! Thanks for the comment!
I have this saw and have loved it. By the way, the fence can drop into place from the front if you connect the back hook first.
Thanks for watching!
I've been using a Craftsmen 10" portable table saw for 18 years. This ting is a dream of mine.
Things wrong with my current saw are numerous, mostly parts unavailable.
Mine replaced a 20 year old blue Ryobi job saw. I feel your pain! Thanks for watching!
3:20 I saw similar plastic protectors on one professional saw. It is to protect the throat plate when using throw back protectors.
Sadly we in Europe are not so privileged to get a contractor saw under 1k$, there are only portable table saws that are flimsy or have a small working area.
Thanks for the review. I have the identical saw that I purchased from Lowes 3 months ago for $725.00 or so, could not be happier with the purchase. 2 weeks ago I purchased the Incra TSLS 36" positioner fence system and the JessEM stock guides. I took the Delta to the next level for accuracy. It was already accurate. Delta can hold its own against the likes of SawStop and Laguna. I have less money and more repeatable accuracy in my Delta by adding the Incra TSLS fence, JessEm Stock Guides and the Incra Miter5000 compared to Sawstop and Laguna.
Hello Theodore! Ive been eyeballing that Incra Fence system for years before I bought the Delta. It looks amazing! The stock fence though is so good I forgot about the Incra for now. It has been in the back of my mind as being a good vid and well get to it eventually I'm sure. Thanks for the comment!
I have been eyeing this saw for a year now. Just picked it up yesterday on clearance at Lowe's for $519. Signed up for a Lowe's pro credit card and received 20% off that price bringing it down to $441. Can't beat that for this caliber of saw.
That’s a sweet deal!! I wonder why it’s on clearance? For kicks I checked Lowes website and it shows out of stock. New model 🤔? Enjoy your saw! Thanks for watching!!
Oh wow two days ago this was posted that’s exactly what I needed to see I’ve narrowed it down to this one or a Dewalt or hitachi jobsite saw
Thanks for watching Stephen! Good luck the the search!
Thanks for the comprehensive review! I bought a Rigid from HD in July 2020. It comes with a Lifetime Service Agreement, why? Because it will be needed and when it is needed the service centers are so booked out it will likely take months for a repair. The blade raising and lowering mechanism gets stuck and when fully raised the belt drive mechanism disengages leaving no blade drive. It's been frustrating to own for this reason alone. The Rigid website and HD are useless for service or help.
Ive heard a fair amount of similar stories from viewers. The R4520 I bought and reviewed appeared to have an updated and much thicker plate on the trunnion. It had its own issues though and ended up back at HD. Thanks for watching and good luck!
Glad you like this saw I grew up using a massive Atlas table saw that my dad owned it was a big steel beast and very accurate I bet whomever he sold it to when I was in the military still owns it today .. I own a nice Jet table saw that is very accurate and also a steel beast with a very big table that handles full sheets of plywood .. I use it for custom cabinets for customers when needed … great honest video thanks ✌🏼🇺🇸
Thanks for the comment and Thank You for your service!
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If you take the table extenders off and drill out the mounting holes you can get more adjustment also buy some shim stock and shim between the table and the extended table(wings) this will help get everything flat my rigid had the same issue I did this and it works well now, a little time consuming but works smoothly.
Thanks for the tip! I look forward to checking out the Ridgid!
I have a 240V, 5HP Grizzly cabinet saw that I use in my shop, but I was using a $200 Kobalt jobsite saw away from the shop. A contractor ham-fistedly broke the blade height adjustment shaft on the Kobalt, so I bought this Delta last night. It doesn't fold up for travel, but it's a fine saw. The old saw that I replaced with the cheap Kobalt was a 30 year old Delta contractor's saw and I should have just gotten this saw then and there and not messed around with the cheapie Kobalt in the first place.
By the way, you don't have to slide the fence on from the end. From anywhere above the saw, you can hook the back of the fence onto the back track then drop the front of the fence in place.
I have a similar model, and love it. Quiet, accurate, heavy....😊
Thanks for watching!
Love mine. Enjoy using it every time. Well worth the money.
This video just showed up on youtube. I can understand what you say and the points made are accurate. I have a much older Ridgid tablesaw >>> 2424TS, had it for 20 years. I have built furniture with it mostly but did some cabinets too. My saw is almost a copycat of the old craftsman 113 series ( got three of them) but I run 220 on it. I had a regimen of biweekly checking tolerances before I shut down the mold making shop. Never had any trouble with accuracy, always within 1/64 of an inch true. Just take the time to learn the tool, it will take care of you.
Good advise MightPorky! Thanks for watching!
i have one and totally agree ….. no worries at all after a couple of years. outstanding deal
Glad to hear it Jimmy! I’ve been waiting for a bad comment about this saw. 30k views and no horror stories yet. Suppose that says something. Thanks for watching!!
Hey everyone I really appreciate the video and all your feedback… I just bought mine and in the process of assembling… do the new ones still have motor issues?… should I still be buying this $100 kit I keep hearing about? … I’m reading conflicting articles about Delta fixing this, love you to hear your opinions
I spent a lot of time doing research on the table saw that would meet my needs. I am very limited for storage space for my equipment. At night both cars belong in the garage. In the end, it came down to the Delta or the Dewalt 7491. I ended up with the Dewalt because of space considerations. I am really happy with the Delta even though I would like a solid steel table top.
This DeWALT is a great alternative to a full size saw! If I had the same space limitations this would be most likely what I’d buy. Thanks for watching!
Good review for a great saw. I bought the T2 a couple years ago. I got a cast iron wing/router table for it from MLCS in Philly. Had to drill mounting holes in the new cast iron wing which was a new thing for me, and daunting. (Tech service at MLCS walked me thru the steps.) The cast iron wing is a few thou off being coplanar. I'm thinking a few shims might be a remedy some day when all my other pressing projects are done.... or maybe it's good enough.
Just checked out MLCS! Lots of good stuff on the website. Im currently eyeballing the SawStop router table and 1 SawStop wing for the other side both on Rockler. Im also not looking forward to drilling the cast iron. Thanks for watching!!
I’m guessing on the non-latching side of the fence it’s probably HDPE plastic the same as they use in those cutting boards for commercial use. I’ve actually bought those cutting boards cheap at Sam’s Club and used them in projects as runners.
In my dads shop he had pretty delta everything. This was the delta of 60 years ago. The table saw was 220 and a beast. Most of the tools were used daily and the table saw cut god knows how much teak mahogany for some old chris craft boats and cut enough cedar tongue and grove paneling to panel all walls in a 4000sqft house. None of the delta tool ever had issues. Also had delta table saws in a cabinet shop I worked at in college and those cut hard wood all day long including hard maple and some exotics that were harder than maple. I’m not sure if delta is still in the ballpark of the delta of 60-70 years ago but I think this saw might be the upgrade I’m looking for to replace the job site death trap I have now.
This was a great review.
This saw seems to fill a pretty big gap in the market for an intermediate type saw between the smaller job site saws and the big boys.
Just the fact that you can dial in the fence scale, and it actually remains reliable after taking the fence on and off, puts it head and shoulders above most job site saws.
Thank you! I agree it’s great to have a large saw option without the $1500 price tag. Not every one has that money to spend or needs the quality. Thanks for watching again!
Ps I edited my response to your router question.
I have this saw and I always measure from the blade to the fence for precision cuts but use the scale for rough cuts even though I have the scale dialed in.
I just bought my delta! Thanks for the review! I’m looking forward to using mine.
Congrats Johnny! Pretty sure your going to be happy with that saw. Thanks for watching!
I also have this table saw. I had to adjust the blade insert so it was level with the cast iron top. If you are cutting small pieces of wood, then it has to be level with the top of the saw to get a perfect 90 degree cut. I wish that it was possible to wire the motor for 220 volts, but it is not. The motor draws 15 amps at 110v so it really puts a strain on the wiring in the shop. I will re-wire it in the (hopefully) near future. For the price of the saw, it will do what I need for now.
Thanks for watching!
This saw is amazing. I bought the Jessem miter gauge and the two provide rock-solid accuracy and dependability. However, I did have to run the saw on a different breaker than my dust collector.
I still love this saw. I was just out in the garage looking at it. Now that I own about seven jobsite saws I could get rid of the Delta to save space but none of them compare to this quiet, heavy contractor saw. I’ll probably keep it for years. It pulls over 70 amps at startup which is why it needs its own circuit. Thanks for watching Michael!
Good review, I love this saw, only complaint is at 4 months the motor quit, a capasitor, a real pain, I had to load it on a trailer and take to a service Ctr, I’m still waiting for it to be fixed. I’ve read that they had a lot of issues with this
I’ve read about this too Bob. It’s a shame because it’s a great saw otherwise. I haven’t had any trouble with mine so far and hopefully it stays that way. Good luck and thanks for watching!
Dunno if anyone has mentioned, but Rockler sells cast iron wings for the SawStop CNS-175 that fit this Delta. Just need to drill two mounting holes and be rid of the stamped steel wings!
This has been on my to do list for a while. Sawstops router table looks interesting too. Thanks for the comment!
I do not own this saw but have used one and 👍👍. The few 1000’s of an inch on the wings seams to make virtually no difference in the accuracy on my 80’s Craftsman saw. As for the fence it’s dead accurate, I purchased it as an aftermarket. An upgrade I’d replace the miter gauge.
This saw will easily make fine cabinetry, furniture, …
I own a UniSaw yes it’s a much nicer saw but is it worth the extra cost ??? maybe if it’s your profession
I was just googling around, and someone was getting sawstop wings to replace the stock ones for this, if you are still needing an upgrade idea.
I’ve been eyeballing those for years. The Sawstop router wing is enticing too. Thanks for the tip!
Really enjoy your reviews, especially being a novice/ beginner. Still not sold on which table saw would be best for a beginner but I do like this
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My suggestion is buy the best quality, largest saw you can afford. Especially if your going to use it for jigs and wood working projects. This Delta is a great size for woodworking. I’ve had it maybe 4 years now and still love it. Good luck and thanks for watching!
Probably the best, to the point review I've ever seen. Great job, scratch that Fantastic Job!. I'm between this and a Delta 5000 series but you convinced me to go for the 5000. You said it well "If your retired making furniture....." yep thats me now. Im just shocked the steel inserts negate the nice iron top. This would have been fine for the decks, overhangs and other stuff I did before but now I'm doing tables and cabinets. So I didn't fully understand, after you tightened the screws, did it take the slack out of all the angle stops? Great, Great review Brother, you made me a subscriber. Thanks much for the review.
Thank You very much! Those steel wings do tighten down and the bow in them isn’t visible to the eye. You only realize there’s a problem until you run the fence over them or a straight edge. If I understand your question correctly. I’ve been looking at the 5000 series and can’t find a difference from this saw other than the cast wings. I was curious because the price difference is large for just that option but I may be missing something. Thank you again for watching and subscribing!!
On the fence, the rear piece of metal isn't for clamping. It's just a guide. All of the clamping is done from the front side. That's why it's able to be self aligning.
I have had the Delta 36-725 model for about 6 years. Very pleased with it. Don't give up on getting the stamped wings flat. It takes some time, but can be done. Don't know about the model you have but the one I have has a switch on the motor for 220v operation. I have had it on that for about two years and seems to be stronger and smoother running. I am interested in the DNC blade insert you got for it. Would love to have a link .
Hello Dgrasha! Im no electrician but I believe on 220v you run less amps and therefore less heat and more longevity. When we built the garage I put in a 100 amp sub panel and 3 220v plugs, possibly my favorite house upgrade to date👍. Ill put the Etsy link for the table inserts in the description for everyone. Thanks for watching!!
Thanks for your efforts. I was ready to pull the trigger on a one year used rigid for 250 and saw your reviews. Both are well done and a big help. I may stick w/my current rigid jobsite saw for now and step up to this Delta in the near future. But your advise is appreciated.
$250 is not a bad price for this Ridgid. The nice thing about buying used is you can bring some tools to measure and confirm nothings wrong with it before you buy. For that price you could afford to buy the Delta fence for the Ridgid.
Or just buy a Delta….Thanks for watching!
Outstanding review on the details of the saw itself. And, how well you delivered. Well done.
Question: what is the length from the blade, to where the fence slides on? I’m guessing close to 33”, give or take.
Also, since you didn’t mention it as a downfall, I’m guessing that the blade, start of cut, to end of cut (front to back) is nice and straight?
Not so with my Home Depot Ryobi🙄
Enough is enough.
5:02 I think you have your fence on backwards or something. That little flip down piece should flip down on the blade side. I think it also doubles as a material support when making really wide rips
Hello Mike! That little flip fence was installed at the factory. I looked at it close when someone else had the same comment. It isn’t designed to be installed on the other side and it’s bracket doesn’t allow it to sit any lower than the saw top making it impossible to use as a support. I think the brackets were in the way too if I remember. A support would be more useful though IMO as I’ve never used that little fence. Thanks for watching!
Someone may have already answered this for you. The plastic parts at the back of the throat plate are for the kickback paws to rest on. I guess it helps to keep them grippy.