By the way, this was the best comparison I’ve seen anywhere on UA-cam. I’ve been watching your other videos and you really do a thorough job and I appreciate it.
I have both. If you are choosing between the two, the choice is about mobility. If you need to move it to locations, get the Dewalt. If not, the Delta is easily the better choice.
Thanks for doing this video it helped me 100% decide on the delta since I don’t necessarily need the portability. The time and effort is greatly appreciated.
Thanks for the detailed comparison. I wanted the Delta but settled on the DeWalt because I can wheel it out of my shed and cut in my backyard without any dust collection. A note about the miter gauge, I had been unhappy with the size and slop allowing the angle to change mid cut so I got an Incra v27. Fantastic miter but when I tighten the adjustment screws to get rid of the slop, I discovered why it's there. The channels aren't uniform machined. So when sliding the miter gauge there are areas where it will stick. I might try to go in with some sand paper remove these narrower spots. I didn't realize how loud it was I thought all table saws were like that. I wear ear protection so it's not a big issue. Over all I'm happy with the DeWalt especially the easy of movement, compact and fast setup. The small size is does make it tricky cutting longer pieces. Either find a way to support it or know when not suitable to use.
I own both of these saws, started with the DeWalt and then added the Delta about 6 months ago. I feel like the delta is an upgrade for sure, better fence with more surface to align material with, way quieter, more space on the top and my dado stack does not slowly creep down like with the DeWalt.
This is the best comparison review of the two saws that I have been looking at. The decibel difference is huge for me, but so is storage. I'll have to go with storage & mobility. I always wear hearing protection nowadays anyway, something I unfortunately did not do when I was younger; now I have hearing protection staged all over, for myself as well as for visitors:). Thanks again for the great review.
Thanks Larry! I’m with you on the hearing thing. Pushing 30 years working on jobs and in shops has taken its toll. Should have listened to those old guys when I was in my 20s….Thanks for watching!
Man that delta makes me drool, but I'll probably go with the Dewalt since I will probably only use the saw twice per year. I'm not a woodworker or construction guy, just a DIY guy and when I'm not using it I want the garage space for other things.
Someone just getting started in wordworking and i do have the room in my shop with no vehicles to worry about im looking towards the Delta. I like parts of the dewalt but with learning my skills as i move ahead i may go with the Delta. Awesome comparisons on these two.
The delta, in my opinion, is the best value out there. The right wing was dipping, I must not have tightened it all the way, but I figured it out and fully dialed in. I finally started making jigs and am only starting to unlock its potential. People complain about the dust collection. I have a Camvac high pressure DC, when I turn on all three motors, it collects 90 percent of the dust. It’s amazing. The electrical upgrade was worth the money just for the ability to run the Camvac. Low pressure systems will be a thing of the past once the High pressure systems catch on inthe states I think.
I agree! If you have the space the Delta is very tough to beat for the money. I have seen these Camvac systems but haven’t done real research yet. The shop is overdue for major upgrades and this is definitely a consideration. Thanks for watching!
Great comparison video! I've owned the DeWalt for several years, and prior to purchasing it I had narrowed it down to the DeWalt or the Delta. As you surmised in your video, the deciding factor was the much smaller storage space required for the DeWalt. My shop is in my garage and since I need to park our vehicles in there when not woodworking the DeWalt was clearly the best choice for me. I've frankly been amazed at how versatile and accurate it is, I thought I was making more of a compromise in capability than it's turned out to be. The biggest issue is the smaller table size makes cutting larger pieces a bit of a challenge. To get around that I use a Bora saw guide and my circular saw to break down sheet goods before cutting them down to final size on the DeWalt. An extra step, but since I'm only a hobby woodworker the extra time isn't a big deal.
went with the ridgid clone of the delta and could not be happier with the decision. I feel the cast iron top itself made a huge difference for me and was able to achieve accuracy (thanks to your other adjustment video) I was looking for. I had to rearrange my garage for this (since I park my car in it) but it was worth it. I was able to secure one for $320 and felt like a steal!
Remember the decibel scale is logarithmic, so a 10 decibel difference is twice as loud. Thanks so much for the review! I'm going to end up going with the Dewalt as I only have 1/2 of a typical "2 car" garage to work in, and space is thus at a premium.
Great comparison. If anyone is looking for this Delta, HD sells the Ridigd clone for $650 but it often goes on sale for $399, which is a screaming deal for the saw. You just have to be fast to order one when they get in stock. I have the Dewalt now and I'm about to pick up the Ridgid clone of the Delta. I work out of a 1 car garage and we park in it, so the small size of the Dewalt (mounted on a small rolling cabinet) has been a great solution. But I think the benefits of the Ridgid, especially in our house that is below our dining room, will be much better. It will make the work space more cramped, but the benefits will outweigh that for sure.
The DeWalt sits in the back of my flooring installation van. A Delta (60's vintage) sits in my woodshop. If you have the space in your work area for the larger saw, in the long run it will be a more satisfying experience, as noise issues and longevity issues will plaque your jobsite sized saw, as will issues with accuracy as your skills advance and you begin to demand more from your saw. This is not to denigrate the jobsite saw, just pointing out that trying to get repeatable .010" accuracy on a jobsite will have you saying things you don't want your children (or spouse) to hear. Just sayin'...with 35+ years of sawing experience.
@@billcash1798 Ive had both saws and I would prefer to own the DeWalt again out of the two. If I had the space for the Delta, I would save longer to get a SawStop.
I have been using an old Shopsmith. However for years have not be pleased with the table saw at all. It's good lath and drill press. Even with the upgrades offered and rather have a dedicated "real" table saw. I make furniture, doors and so on, strictly as a hobby. I was spoiled by a big Delta 3 Phase, 5 hp table saw 40 years ago when working my way through college in a cabinet shop, so I tend to lean toward Delta. However the portability and compact size of the DeWalt model is very appealing, Although have some apprehension about the DeWalt saw blade height adjustment setup and it's light weight fence configuration as you pointed it out. Your review clearly explaining the differences is very helpful! Thank you.
Don’t know if you mentioned it, or if it’s in the comments somewhere, but don’t forget to flip the fence on the Dewalt to save even more room and keep the fence better protected! Great video! I think I’ve watched every table saw video you’ve done! Love them all!
I used to have a Delta cabinet saw, bought about 1989. When I moved from the Northwest to the Southeast, from a good sized garage to a townhouse with a single car garage I gave the saw to a friend. Regrets! After some research I bought the Dewalt about 2018 for $599.99. I wasn’t aware of the Delta at the time. Deciding factor was the 32.5” capacity and most important, being able to use my dado set. It’s sitting on the stand, which is easy to operate and sturdy. Dewalt has made some changes it looks like, the one you reviewed seems to have more plastic. Back to mine; the fence is very good, probably the best thing about the saw. The miter gage is aluminum on mine, but it’s crap! The small size and no features were expected, but the sloppy fit in the table slot with no adjustment makes it useless. The table is NOT cast iron or even steel. I’m not sure what it is, probably aluminum with a durable coating. My magnetic angle finder won’t stick of course. The height and angle adjustment sucks. There are no detects, as soon as you unlock it the weight of the motor swings it to the center. To get it back to 90 takes some adjustment, every time. It’s very loud, ear protection is a must. I really dislike this saw and regret buying it. I never use it. It’s brand new and just sitting there used once. I want the Delta, but can’t justify having both.
Going from a cabinet saw to a smaller job saw would definitely feel like a downgrade. Especially in table real estate and noise. This DeWalt was the first job saw I'd used in a few years and the noise level shocked me the first time I turned it on. I guess I've gotten spoiled. Im sure you'd get good money for that DeWalt on marketplace if you did decide to upgrade. Thanks for watching!
On the Dewalt, when storing the fence, place it upside-down under the table on the left lug. Then it is protected from damage while stored by the table itself and the frame. Also reduces storage area needed by the height of the fence.
How do you like the dewalt? Is the rack and pinion fence any good? I’m trying to find a cast iron table with the rack and pinion for my garage. Not much room
@sirturd4966 Love it. Have had the saw for about 2 years. Rack and pinion still smooth as the day it cam out of the box. My only concern on the rack&pinion is me knocking it as I walk around it (it is permanently setup in my shop and walkway is narrow). So, when I am not using it I make sure I put it back into, as much, a neutral position as I can. Only complaint on the saw overall is I can never get the riving knife to stay aligned to the blade. And the adjustment screws for it are not in the best place, kind of a pain in fact. Have been times I remove it for a single cut, but I don't recommend that.
I'm a musician that works with mixing music in the studio and the standard for maximum levels mix music at is 80-85 dbs. So the fact that the Delta is only 85 is really impressive. I've been agonizing over what to replace my Ryobi job site saw with and while I was already leaning toward the Delta (longer lead in, space for an auxiliary table (i.e. router), height and angle locks) the lower sound level seals the deal. This review was thorough and really informative. The only thing I didn't see was how to do squaring adjustments...but I'm sure there are other videos on that.
I am a 68 yr old woman, and I have the Dewalt. I have 2 move it daily out n2 my driveway 2 work on it. Let me tell u, it's a breeze 2 move around and set up. Big wheels and very well balanced.
I am not a contractor needing to haul a saw around. The Delta is much more substantial and love the cast iron table. Th cast iron table is convenient for flat surface when needed for other needs.
Thanks for this detailed and thorough review. You've helped me make my final choice. I'm shopping for my first table saw that has the room for plywood along with the finesse to make more precision woodworking projects. The Delta looks like a fine value.
I have the Delta but have used the Dewalt. In my personal opinion, the two saws have different purposes. The Dewalt is better for Job site but the Delta is better for small shops. As for storage, it depends on how you have your shop laid out as to if the storage really matters.
I really appreciate the decibel measurements. I have the DeWalt and it's a great saw, but it is *extremely* loud. I work in the unfinished part of my basement. Because It has cinder block walls, sounds have a tendency to echo, making the noise levels that much louder. Hearing protection is an absolute must.
Mike I know we talked about the wings on the delta but I basically made a maple butcher block 1 1/2” thick and replaced the wonky wings in the saw. Definitely added weight an stability. Idk if you remember, We were talking about hardware to lock them in to the angle iron an I wound up using cross dowel bolts to lock in the wings and came out perfectly and beautiful now I have hurt feeling issues sliding wood across them because they’re so nice looking but used urethane to protect the wings but truthfully it is a saw and most important it worked really well ! Another great video! Ps I still love my delta!
Hey Michael! Glad to hear it worked out with the wings. Shame there’s no pictures allowed in the comment section I’d love to see how it turned out. Thanks for watching as always!
I know you shared your email with me let me see what I can do mabey an idea for a video for you haven’t seen one out there yet I just don’t have the creator side in me with all the editing lol!
The butcher block was a great idea. I too was disappointed with the wings that came with it and was getting tired of that open zone gap past the end of the wing, so just last week I used 3/4 ply board with a 2" border below for attachment (thanks Eric Spencley for the video on that). Happy with that and with the saw in general.
I just got the Dewalt. It looks like they recently upgraded the miter gauge. The one on display at Lowe's still had the gauge like the one you showed. Mine was all metal and sturdy. I think it was the same size, but better material. It still wasn't as good as the one on the other saw, but at least it might be usable.
I own the Delta and I got it on clearance for 50% off and couldn’t be happier. I got more than my moneys worth. I added a router table insert which increased the value of it.
I went through making this same decision on which saw to buy over the past couple of months. I finally settled on the Delta a couple of weeks ago and brought one home. (Getting that heavy bastard in and out of the back of my Toyota Rav4 was fun 🤣) I have used it for a couple of projects and I have to say I am really happy with it as it is a significant step up from my crappy plastic and aluminum job site saw. The Delta saw was perfectly aligned with the miter slots and fence right out of the box and I really like the accuracy I have been able to achieve with it. It is definitely not a cabinet saw but the size and mobility really works well in my small shop. (I wouldn't want to have to load it up and take it to a job site though) I have no problems cutting 4/4 walnut and maple with the saw. I do want to upgrade the wings to cast iron eventually and I did swap out the blade for a better CMT 24 tooth ripping blade.
If you swap the Rav4 for an old 4Runner we have the same story. Over 3 years on and that Delta works same as the day I brought it home. I couldn't be happier. One of these days I'll get those Sawstop cast wings for it. Thanks for watching!
Hi Mike, I enjoyed this comparison. I recently purchased the DeWalt. Your information about the miter gauge material is out of date. They are now metal. They are still not good because the bar is too short and has too much play. Yet they are metal not plastic. Also I was not concerned with the noise because I wear ear protection and the loudest noise comes from cutting wood not running the saw without cutting and this is true whether using a cabinet saw or a contractor saw, both of which I have used for decades.
Thanks for the info on the miter gauge. The saw in the vid is about eight years old. You make a solid point about the noise when cutting and we’ll have to do that in the next one. Hopefully with a more professional dB meter. Thanks for watching!
Delta is the better saw IMO. I replaced my Dewalt with the Delta and have zero regrets other than wishing I had bought the Delta instead of the Dewalt in the first place.
Honestly I’ve been impressed with both of these saw but they are very different. The size of the Delta alone makes it my clear favorite. Thanks for watching!
I’m happy to report that I finally got a dial indicator made to run in the miter slots(actually an amazing Temu buy, 30bucks give or take). I can’t believe that my delta was factory set absolutely perfect. I’m a beginner and finally making jigs as well as taking the time to dial it all in. I’d love a cabinet saw but honestly, the delta will do everything I need it to. Good blades and having it dialed, the potential this saw has is amazing for the price point. I’d love some cast iron wings but these ones haven’t affected anything I’ve done yet. I cut some strips of oak today to trim out my sled, just to see, I put them together and got glue line joints no matter how I rearranged the strips. I’m no expert but that means everything is perfectly aligned. Can’t beat it with a simple trip to the store
I would go with the Delta; more top surface and you can also add a router tabletop to it if you want love how quite it is, but I hear that's because it's a belt drive which I'm happy with.
Just in case others happen upon this thread, according to the Delta website, it is belt driven... "This is a BELT DRIVEN machine that offers low vibration and easy tensioning."
Nice video on two of the best non-cabinet saws available, Mike. The DeWalt is the top of the line jobsite saw. The Delta is the best shop saw. Once you get above this level prices go triple and above quickly. It seems like there is a big void in the market for shop saws in the $1000.00 range that are a step up from the Delta, but less than Grizzly, Powermatic, or SawStop.
Thanks! Noticed a few minutes ago that Menards has Rikons Contractor saw on super sale at about $850. Looks intriguing. I'll look more into that because you're right there's a 2x jump in price to get to the next tier. Thanks as always for watching
@@ProjectsForAllReviews Nice deal. Normally that saw is $1500.00, and the best deal I've seen is $1200.00 @ Woodcraft. There isn't a Menard's within 400 miles of me, so I guess I'll stick with my Delta. Not much in the way of reviews on the Rikon on UA-cam, and I've yet to actually see one in person I'd be interested to see if it's enough of an upgrade to the Delta to justify 2 - 2.5X the price.
@@ARIVEstyle Yeah, that looks nice. Same capacity as the Delta with full 2HP motor and 120/240V power options. Almost 300 lbs. I wonder how well it rolls on the casters, as I see there's an optional mobile base for it. I like it!
I agreed with Woodrawsmith, but I own a Dewalt Job site Saw for about eight years and I am constantly calibrating and fine tuning my saw to get the best results, again for a portable saw, in my opinion is the best in the market (price and availability). I have fabricated from fine furniture to a complete home with it… in the old days they use to do everything by hand and all was done as accurate as they could, and that furniture still around… workmanship is the craftsman, not the machine, with all do respect.
One of the biggest reasons I'm considering the delta is the fence. From what i understand once it is set up it is dead accurate which is what you need for actual woodworking. As far as ive been able to figure the Delta is the cheapest saw that has a descent fence? Correct? I mean i don't want to have to measure the front and back of the blade to check for a straight cut everytime.
Ive never once felt compelled during a project to measure the fence to blade with a tape measure. The ruler and fence on the Delta is 100% rock solid and accurate in my experience of over 3 years owning it. If you get it spend extra time setting it up and should be good to go. I have multiple vids on that saw check out this playlist. Thanks or watching! ua-cam.com/video/3U3b-efxeWw/v-deo.html
Great vid. Currently looking for a 7491 to replace my craftsman 113. I had one of those deltas in my sights a couple years back, theyre great too. Nice breakdown
@17:25 The DEWALT fence can be stored UNDER the table, which further decreases its folded-up storage size and helps protect the fence in transport. Wow. EXCELLENT comparison review. The decibel difference was astounding though. Ouch!!! I own the DWE7491RS--needed portability, but good to know it stacks up so well against the much larger Delta saw--except for the noise and the larger table/fence size.
I chose the DeWalt since I have a duch a tight place. It's working well with a ton of jigs even though I would have preferred a larger saw. It takes a dado stack but then the height adjustment started moving on me. Had to lock it with cable ties😅. Thanks for the video.
Enjoyed the video! I’m trying to decide between these 2 saws. How flat is each surface? The cast iron on the delta seems like it is likely potentially much flatter. Can you measure them? Thanks!!!!
IMO there's no such thing as a beginner saw. There is definitely different price points, sizes and quality. Best advice I can give is get the largest and best quality you can afford. If you end up using it a lot you won't regret it! Thanks for watching!
Mike, have you had any reliability issues with the Delta? I like the Delta but too many negative reviews complaining of motor issues and poor customer service kept me from buying. I really enjoy your detailed and comprehensive review videos. You’re definitely one of the best on YT! Thanks!
Hello! I’ve been beating that Delta for over 3 years and it’s still 100% trouble free! I’ve been looking at a couple slightly more expensive contractor size saws from Grizzly and Rikon for review but they would have to be really amazing for me to replace the Delta. A friend of mine just bought one a month ago and so far so good with his too. If there’s a Lowes close to you, you can return it if it doesn’t work out. I returned the defective Ridgid R4520. Just sucks putting it all back in the box! Good luck and thanks for watching!!
They silently fixed the motor issues sometime in the last year or so - I wish not-so-silently, since I'm on a pretty active Facebook group for this saw and 90% of the people who join immediately ask, "What about the motor?" (I'm guessing they don't want to admit there was a problem in the first place)
Excellent review, my man. I like your no BS approach. I’ve watched this video several times and I’m so torn between the two saws. My issue is getting the Delta down a flight of stairs to my basement. I’m thinking I could strap the cast iron top to my hand truck and take it down step by step. The remaining pieces I can carry down by hand then assemble the whole thing. Anyway, I’ll probably go for it and just buy the Delta.
Thanks Keith! It’s been a few years since I assembled that Delta but I remember it breaking down into manageable pieces. I think you be ok bringing it into a basement. Good luck and thanks for watching!
Thank you for this. I've looked at both of these (plus the Ridgid that is similar to the Delta). I am leaning toward a mobile saw as I want to store it in my shed and bring it to my driveway (or use in the backyard for projects there). The large wheels are critical to that, but the ability to fold down is essential for shed storage as well. However, all the jobsite saws I looked at could not take a dado stack, so this is encouraging. I almost pulled the trigger on the 8-1/4" Dewalt with the crazy sale last week ($250!) but want to future proof myself a little. While I have no need for a dado stack yet (still learning my router), I feel like I will want one within a year or two. I'm concerned with the fence strength, though, as I could see myself wanting to clamp sacrificial fences. I wonder if anyone has done this successfully with the weak aluminum. Really enjoying your channel. Thanks again!
Thank you for throwing another wrench in my plans! I was sold on the delta. I’ve got a Bosch job site saw now and thought the delta was an upgrade. Now I’m thinking I’m better off saving for a grizzly or jet. I don’t like on the delta that the support isn’t there until you fully extend the fence
Seems there's always a tradeoff. I still own and love that Delta but we have the Ridgid clone in the box in the shop and hopefully we'll get it out to review in the next month or so. Maybe we'll find some design updates? Thanks for watching Benjamin!!
Im pretty sure that's not a support fence on the Delta. It's for cutting very thin material. The Dewalt needs that feature because of the smaller table space. If you need to take a saw away from the shop and into a job site get the Dewalt. Both saws can easily be moved around the work shop. As price is competitive, the Delta is the superior workshop saw.
Thanks for this and your other table saw review/comparison videos, they've been very helpful. I'm a bit torn, the Dewalt (or any good jobsite saw) seems like the better choice for the size of my small one car garage and ability to get it out of the way, but noise and short infeed length seem problematic. I could rig up some sort of infeed extension, but at the cost of compromising access to controls/the power switch. And there doesn't seem to be any workaround to the noise, universal motors are just freaking loud. Would limit when I can work due to neighbor proximity. On the other hand, I feel like if I'm gonna get something bigger like the Delta that will prevent me from parking in the garage, maybe it makes more sense to save a bit more and get a cabinet saw with fewer compromises (or at least a hybrid with cabinet-mounted trunnions and flat cast iron extensions).
Sounds like you have a lot of thinking to do! I’m really good at overweighting my options when making a big purchase. Good luck and thanks for watching!
Thank you for these reviews, I'm in the market for an affordable saw but one that I can still make precision cuts. I think I'm going to go with the lowes Delta.
Great Review!! If it helps someone Rigid has the clone to the Delta also. Made by the same company in the same factory. I love the Rigid!! But you want some kind of dust collection ! I was able to fab the 52” rails delta offers onto mine since Rigid doesn’t offer it. But obviously can’t be moved around as easily. Leaves a nice place for a router table built in though!! It’s extremely accurate just using the fence
Do you think the Delta is quieter due to the fact that it's more of a stationary saw vs jobsite saw? Would a jet tablesaw be similar in terms of decibals?
I have a smaller DeWalt the blade lift just stripped out, it's been a good saw, but it has a aluminum table, the Delta I assume is cast iron which I don't think you mentioned, so much more you can do with it, good miter bars , mag switch ect..., I bought a aftermarket cross cut sled and the ball bearings wore out the coating on the table and now it has slop, I would much rather have a cast iron table !!! But then space and portability, what a dilemma! Damn it ! Good video though.
Once you reach the level of the Delta (price wise), one might consider if they are better served with a track saw setup instead. I've owned both saws here as well as a Kreg track saw with the full Accu-cut system and the track saw system was better than either of these (and took up less space stored than either as well). The difference between the Kreg setup and the Delta is about 200-300 but it is crazy how much better of a system the track saw setup is.
Have you done a video comparing the larger Skilsaw worm drive jobsite saw to the Delta? They’re pretty comparable in price, and the worm drive is supposed to be next class powerful. I wonder if those are closer to each other for a woodworker on a garage on a budget without a dedicated 220-240v outlet. I’ve searched and failed to find a video from you on that. Apologies if I have missed it tho. Thanks for the great content
The decibel difference is insane! If I had the room, I'd have a delta size saw all day long even thought my DWE7491 is very capable for it's size. Thanks for the reviews as always sir!
Im using a dewalt DWE7491RS right now, and although I like it, I wish i got a steel table rather than the aluminum. For me that's the biggest factor. The wood slides more smoothly on a steel table than the dewalt.
Mike, missed you buddy! Another great video. I need both types, so thanks for this demo. The Delta (though, I don't have the T2 model) is for the shop and I'm not giving it up. But, that DeWalt is a sweet portable machine that I can get into the truck and work on-site ; therefore, I needed to know if it was worth the money. Believe it or not, I've been rocking a Craftsmen portable saw with a rolling stand for the last fifteen years. It doesn't owe me any money and it's tired; so, I guess I can retire it.
That DeWalts a pretty sweet machine Meat! It is a beast though. I have to dead lift it and turn it sideways to fit it in my 4Runner so I don't have to remove the kid seat. I get a kick out everyone in the comments having the same story of using some cheap job saw for two decades before finally getting a big "pro" saw. I spent my two decades with a really bad Blue Ryobi. Thanks as aways for watching!
Thanks for your most honest opinions on the Delta vs other brands. I currently have a Ryobi 10 inch I bout about a year ago I haven't used it much until recently. I will say this I am very disappointed in it I have begun the look for a better saw and while I looked at the Delta saw when I bought the Ryobi I jut didn't want to spend that much. Now I wish that I had. I am now planing on buying the Delta. how ever I am curious, you said the wings on the saw are not quite adequate, and your fence hits the corner bad enough to cause you concern, Have you spoke with the company to see if there is anything that could be done? also I just thought and you may have already looked at this. is there an adjustment on the rail or front bar to maybe stop this from happening? Is the rail itself perfectly square and level? It is possible it may have been damaged in packing or shipping. Anyway I like your reviews keep them coming. One last thing I have been looking and have not seen anything on the 36-725T2 Vs The 5000 Series they look very similar It would be nice to see a comparison.
Hello Jimmie! It seems we all figure out the hard way that Ryobi table saws are a bad place to start. Sounds like a good video topic! As far as the wings on my Delta go, check out the numerous vids on my channel addressing this. Essentially they are bowl shaped, meaning high on the edges and low in the center. I don’t think much can be done with these stamped wings but there are a few options. The wings are 27 inches front to back which is a pretty normal size and Sawstop cast iron wings will fit with some new holes drilled for about $300. I also have a viewer who made his own butcher block wings I’ve never seen a Delta 5000 series saw but they look identical to me except iron wings and an additional $1000. Doesn’t look like a very cost effective option. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for your reply I am not sure if i could do a review on the Ryobi my self It would probably take a week to make a 10 minute video. I am watching your video on the Skill Router table. I have seen a few vid's where people are using the Bosch Router table and mounting it to the end of the Delta Table saw they say it is a perfect drop in. any how I you can I like to see your take on the Bosch router table they offer a few different models with aluminum top. I think its the RA1181 but not sure. Thanks again for your reviews I like the honest take on them.
Is there a metal piece on the Delta at the end of that plastic piece? Basically I’m wondering if it breaks, is there a longer lasting metal piece to clamp a flex hose or diy fix to?
I have a small garage which is already over-crowded with sidewall benches filled with bench-top power tools plus another work bench and a portable 10 inch table saw I have used for over 30 years taking up space in the middle of the floor. I wanted to upgrade to a newer table saw with better specific feathers than mine has and for more portablility so I purchased that particular Dewalt at Home Depot today. Besides, it was on sale right now for approximately $100.00 less than the one I was going to get from Harbor Freight of which was out of stock at that particular Harbor Freight store right now anyway. To get the one I was going to get from Harbor Freight I would have had to drive another 200 miles round-trip to another one of their other stores of which they said had 3 in stock in another town. I had already driven 50 miles one way just to get to the Harbor Feight store whre I was already at. Home Depot was only just across the street from the Harbor Freight Store where I was at. So guess where I went next. The only thing I am not thrilled about and don't like is the fact that the Dewalt I got, is only an "8-1/4 inch" blade where the one from Harbor Freight is a "10 inch" blade of which my original portable table saw is, though all the rest of the features of what the Dewalt has on it is exactly what I needed and wanted.
I wish you would have talked about the motors. I want to cut hardwoods and do not need to move around, have a dedicated space. Based on your review and your commentors, sounds like I should get the Delta. Thanks!
If you don't need the portability then the Delta is the obvious choice IMO. I still love mine despite usually having at least 6 job saws to test at any given time. Both these saws have the power to do any process you want but the table space and reduced noise of the Deltas induction motor make it a pleasure to use. Good luck and thanks for watching!
I have never regretted buying my Delta. I have had none of the motor problems that have been mentioned here and other places. All of the alignment adjustments are very straightforward, except for the front to back blade/miter slot alignment, which was quite the PITA (most come from the factory dead on but mine was not). Powerful enough for everything I have done on it, including a full dado stack. Keep your eyes on the Lowe's site and who knows maybe they will have another unicorn price like they did Xmas 21 when I got mine.
Thank you for the video. One question? Can the Delta saw be mounted on a mobile cart like the smaller Delta job site saw? I don't care for the Dewalt cart. If anyone that follows you has done so, please advice.
I’ve never seen one and I would guess it’s probably too big and heavy to be practical. Would be a fun metal working project to make a folding cart like the big Skilsaws for it. Thanks for watching!
Awesome video sir! Do you have any plans to review the Metabo HPT 36v Table saw? The specs seem pretty impressive and the option to go battery powered or plug in seems like an awesome idea. Thank you for the great content!
Hello! Yes well get to that 36v saw soon! I agree the battery adapter is pretty cool. It would turn any tool on that platform to corded. Keep an eye out for that vid! Thanks for watching!
I have the first generation Delta saw and the motor has a switch to change from 120v to 240v. I watched a video where they showed that when using 240v that the saw is less likely to bogg down, even though the power (wattage) is the same. It also uses less amps when higher voltage. Im betting the T2 alao has this. Just and added benefit (if you habe 240v accessibile or are building a ship like i was, and planned for it.)
i love my dewalt but youre right it is noisy.. it stores out of the way easily and i can put it in my car if i need to.. its the first table saw ive owned (after i returned the craftsman the day that i bought it) who knows ..if i had a bigger shop? thanks for your review
Love my delta. Only had it since Dec but it's a huge improvement over my old one. Quite and with a zero insert cuts quite well with the included blade but I will be changing that soon. Just wish the dust collection was a bit better.
With some minor modifications the Delta will perform almost any task that a cabinet saw will major difference is horsepower. I have used this Delta and the UniSaw.
This is a very interesting comparison. I own the delta table saw. I don't think you can compare a portable job site saw to the Delta. Maybe Delta has their saw described in the wrong category. I think the delta is in the same stationary class as the Laguna or saw stop. After I added the Incra TSLS fence and the Incra router table add on, the Delta in my case is hard to beat for accuracy and money spent. btw I am operating this saw on a dedicated 20 amp circuit. Thanks for the review. Cannon with until you get your hands on a Incra LS Fence!
This vid was made because viewers commonly asked which one to buy. I’ve been eyeballing that Incra fence system for probably 10 years. I’ll get one eventually for a review but it looks amazing. Thanks for watching Theodore!
Been watching a few of your reviews lately. Honest views and concise. a big plus is you don't feel the need to insert that dipshit filler muzac. Wish more would follow your lead. You've earned another subscriber. Thanks and keep up the good work, Sir.
I wonder if the fence on the delta can be unbolted and spun around so the secondary fence can then be used to support stock. Just a thought it may not work sir
Possibly it could be done. You would have to make new end brackets that allow it to drop below the table top also. It would probably be easier to add another wing to fill the gap on the right side as a support. Thanks for watching!
Nope. You're stuck with left secondary cut and no material support at 30 inches right rip. I love that saw but some things could have been thought out a little better. Thanks for watching!
what i find weird about the dewalt 7485 is the angles. the wheel is hard to move and get in the right spot. the red thing to choose the angle with isnt the best. also the mitre gauge slot has loads of play in it. why??????????? the fence is solid (95 percent) sometimes get play in one end. and its not always at 90 to the table.
I purchased a used Contractor saw like the one in your videos. I have more cast iron on my saw and it is very heavy. My contractor saw is in very good condition. I have to place a rust remover on the cast iron, but other than that, I am impressed with it. The small tabletop saw is over 50 years, and it was my daddy's saw. Like the Dewalt, it is very loud to use, and the fence is like one where you have to measure the distance on the front and back of the blade to make sure of two things: The first is the fence which needs multiple measurements so the back and front of the saw will cut correctly and not change the wood one is cutting (smaller in the back and larger in the front). The second is the pinching of the wood when it is being sent through the saw. This could happen because of a weaker fence than the larger contractor saw. My preference is the contractor saw, but that cannot be moved easily.
These newer portable saw with rack and pinion fence systems are amazing! I started with a blue Ryobi with a very weak fence. If the motor had been powerful enough to kick back that Ryobi would have killed me years ago. I really appreciate owning the Delta after a lot of years with that Ryobi! Thanks for watching!
Oh i didnt see this video. Its funny pros on one machine but cons on other (including skilsaw) its like no machine has both lol. Prices running atm dewalt is on sale for 549, skil is 649 and delta is 700. Noise isnt much of factor as i use my gun ear muffs (tho i guess neighbors lol). Ill eventually pick one, main concern is any major flaws. I would be usin rip fence alot idk how accurate they are or if there easy to align if not. I know dust collection is important since im in basement (cold is hard on tools and if i make a side job i dont want to ruin it more than i need to. I dont want to have too much dust everywhere. I do have a standard shop vac.
if ur a tradesmen , a joiner then your willing to work hard. so if you ditch the idea of the stand and legs then the dewalt is not even that heavy. youve done 8 hours of solid work so whats the extra of picking the saw up.?
6:32 "Fence is rock solid" while it wobbles around when you are wiggleing it back and forth. I thought about the DeWalt, but sure is plasticy in this video.
I have the exact same DeWalt saw displayed/discussed in this video. It has performed flawlessly, but I do have a gripe ... OK, 2 gripes. Yes, the miter is crap and I knew that up front, but the 2 miter slots are not the same width. And that may be related to my second gripe. The aluminum table top is far from being flat. I haven't measured the thickness variations, but I've grown sick of this issue. Likewise, the Delta table has also been reported being not perfectly flat. Two videos I've seen measured 0.008" in one, and around 0.030" in another. I can probably live with 0.008", not not with 0.030" (almost 1/32"). Thus, the search for my next table saw continues.
You’ve hit a nerve with this comment because Menards has the Rikon on super sale till 02/26 and I’ve been debating pulling the trigger for a week. Keep an eye out, it may be Rikon Vs Delta time soon! Thanks for watching!
@@ProjectsForAllReviews i have just looked online at Menards and like the price but i really like the Delta price. But Lowes doesn't keep it in stock and if i apply for their card i like the payment plans
By the way, this was the best comparison I’ve seen anywhere on UA-cam. I’ve been watching your other videos and you really do a thorough job and I appreciate it.
Thank you Rick!!
I have both. If you are choosing between the two, the choice is about mobility. If you need to move it to locations, get the Dewalt. If not, the Delta is easily the better choice.
I agree 100%! Thanks for watching!
Thanks for doing this video it helped me 100% decide on the delta since I don’t necessarily need the portability. The time and effort is greatly appreciated.
Glad I could help Randy! Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the detailed comparison. I wanted the Delta but settled on the DeWalt because I can wheel it out of my shed and cut in my backyard without any dust collection. A note about the miter gauge, I had been unhappy with the size and slop allowing the angle to change mid cut so I got an Incra v27. Fantastic miter but when I tighten the adjustment screws to get rid of the slop, I discovered why it's there. The channels aren't uniform machined. So when sliding the miter gauge there are areas where it will stick. I might try to go in with some sand paper remove these narrower spots.
I didn't realize how loud it was I thought all table saws were like that. I wear ear protection so it's not a big issue. Over all I'm happy with the DeWalt especially the easy of movement, compact and fast setup. The small size is does make it tricky cutting longer pieces. Either find a way to support it or know when not suitable to use.
I own both of these saws, started with the DeWalt and then added the Delta about 6 months ago. I feel like the delta is an upgrade for sure, better fence with more surface to align material with, way quieter, more space on the top and my dado stack does not slowly creep down like with the DeWalt.
Thanks for watching Tim!
There is a 17 mil nut on the bottom of the worm gear on the motor. Tighten the nut and your dado stack will not leak down. Easy fix.
@@larasea741I'm just commenting here so I can come back and find your comment
This is the best comparison review of the two saws that I have been looking at. The decibel difference is huge for me, but so is storage. I'll have to go with storage & mobility. I always wear hearing protection nowadays anyway, something I unfortunately did not do when I was younger; now I have hearing protection staged all over, for myself as well as for visitors:). Thanks again for the great review.
Thanks Larry! I’m with you on the hearing thing. Pushing 30 years working on jobs and in shops has taken its toll. Should have listened to those old guys when I was in my 20s….Thanks for watching!
No comparison, Delta by far
Man that delta makes me drool, but I'll probably go with the Dewalt since I will probably only use the saw twice per year. I'm not a woodworker or construction guy, just a DIY guy and when I'm not using it I want the garage space for other things.
Someone just getting started in wordworking and i do have the room in my shop with no vehicles to worry about im looking towards the Delta. I like parts of the dewalt but with learning my skills as i move ahead i may go with the Delta. Awesome comparisons on these two.
The delta, in my opinion, is the best value out there. The right wing was dipping, I must not have tightened it all the way, but I figured it out and fully dialed in. I finally started making jigs and am only starting to unlock its potential. People complain about the dust collection. I have a Camvac high pressure DC, when I turn on all three motors, it collects 90 percent of the dust. It’s amazing. The electrical upgrade was worth the money just for the ability to run the Camvac. Low pressure systems will be a thing of the past once the High pressure systems catch on inthe states I think.
I agree! If you have the space the Delta is very tough to beat for the money. I have seen these Camvac systems but haven’t done real research yet. The shop is overdue for major upgrades and this is definitely a consideration. Thanks for watching!
Great comparison video! I've owned the DeWalt for several years, and prior to purchasing it I had narrowed it down to the DeWalt or the Delta. As you surmised in your video, the deciding factor was the much smaller storage space required for the DeWalt. My shop is in my garage and since I need to park our vehicles in there when not woodworking the DeWalt was clearly the best choice for me. I've frankly been amazed at how versatile and accurate it is, I thought I was making more of a compromise in capability than it's turned out to be. The biggest issue is the smaller table size makes cutting larger pieces a bit of a challenge. To get around that I use a Bora saw guide and my circular saw to break down sheet goods before cutting them down to final size on the DeWalt. An extra step, but since I'm only a hobby woodworker the extra time isn't a big deal.
Glad to hear the DeWALT worked out well for you! Thanks for watching!
Thank you for this perspective. I think I need the Delta for mobility, so I'm glad to hear the performance is still excellent.
went with the ridgid clone of the delta and could not be happier with the decision. I feel the cast iron top itself made a huge difference for me and was able to achieve accuracy (thanks to your other adjustment video) I was looking for. I had to rearrange my garage for this (since I park my car in it) but it was worth it. I was able to secure one for $320 and felt like a steal!
Remember the decibel scale is logarithmic, so a 10 decibel difference is twice as loud. Thanks so much for the review! I'm going to end up going with the Dewalt as I only have 1/2 of a typical "2 car" garage to work in, and space is thus at a premium.
Thanks for watching!
80 dB is 10x louder than 70 dB. If you want a sound twice as loud as 70 dB, you only need to go to 73.
@@deadapostle you know... I know that, or did at one point.
Great comparison. If anyone is looking for this Delta, HD sells the Ridigd clone for $650 but it often goes on sale for $399, which is a screaming deal for the saw. You just have to be fast to order one when they get in stock.
I have the Dewalt now and I'm about to pick up the Ridgid clone of the Delta. I work out of a 1 car garage and we park in it, so the small size of the Dewalt (mounted on a small rolling cabinet) has been a great solution. But I think the benefits of the Ridgid, especially in our house that is below our dining room, will be much better. It will make the work space more cramped, but the benefits will outweigh that for sure.
The DeWalt sits in the back of my flooring installation van. A Delta (60's vintage) sits in my woodshop. If you have the space in your work area for the larger saw, in the long run it will be a more satisfying experience, as noise issues and longevity issues will plaque your jobsite sized saw, as will issues with accuracy as your skills advance and you begin to demand more from your saw. This is not to denigrate the jobsite saw, just pointing out that trying to get repeatable .010" accuracy on a jobsite will have you saying things you don't want your children (or spouse) to hear. Just sayin'...with 35+ years of sawing experience.
Well said Woodrow! Thanks for watching!
Yep, you pretty much summed it up, delta wins hands down if just only for the decibels..Clearly an apples to orange comparison
@@billcash1798 Ive had both saws and I would prefer to own the DeWalt again out of the two. If I had the space for the Delta, I would save longer to get a SawStop.
I have been using an old Shopsmith. However for years have not be pleased with the table saw at all. It's good lath and drill press. Even with the upgrades offered and rather have a dedicated "real" table saw. I make furniture, doors and so on, strictly as a hobby.
I was spoiled by a big Delta 3 Phase, 5 hp table saw 40 years ago when working my way through college in a cabinet shop, so I tend to lean toward Delta.
However the portability and compact size of the DeWalt model is very appealing,
Although have some apprehension about the DeWalt saw blade height adjustment setup and it's light weight fence configuration as you pointed it out.
Your review clearly explaining the differences is very helpful! Thank you.
Don’t know if you mentioned it, or if it’s in the comments somewhere, but don’t forget to flip the fence on the Dewalt to save even more room and keep the fence better protected! Great video! I think I’ve watched every table saw video you’ve done! Love them all!
I used to have a Delta cabinet saw, bought about 1989. When I moved from the Northwest to the Southeast, from a good sized garage to a townhouse with a single car garage I gave the saw to a friend. Regrets! After some research I bought the Dewalt about 2018 for $599.99. I wasn’t aware of the Delta at the time. Deciding factor was the 32.5” capacity and most important, being able to use my dado set. It’s sitting on the stand, which is easy to operate and sturdy. Dewalt has made some changes it looks like, the one you reviewed seems to have more plastic. Back to mine; the fence is very good, probably the best thing about the saw. The miter gage is aluminum on mine, but it’s crap! The small size and no features were expected, but the sloppy fit in the table slot with no adjustment makes it useless. The table is NOT cast iron or even steel. I’m not sure what it is, probably aluminum with a durable coating. My magnetic angle finder won’t stick of course. The height and angle adjustment sucks. There are no detects, as soon as you unlock it the weight of the motor swings it to the center. To get it back to 90 takes some adjustment, every time. It’s very loud, ear protection is a must. I really dislike this saw and regret buying it. I never use it. It’s brand new and just sitting there used once. I want the Delta, but can’t justify having both.
Going from a cabinet saw to a smaller job saw would definitely feel like a downgrade. Especially in table real estate and noise. This DeWalt was the first job saw I'd used in a few years and the noise level shocked me the first time I turned it on. I guess I've gotten spoiled. Im sure you'd get good money for that DeWalt on marketplace if you did decide to upgrade. Thanks for watching!
On the Dewalt, when storing the fence, place it upside-down under the table on the left lug. Then it is protected from damage while stored by the table itself and the frame. Also reduces storage area needed by the height of the fence.
Good tip Philip! Thanks for watching!
How do you like the dewalt?
Is the rack and pinion fence any good?
I’m trying to find a cast iron table with the rack and pinion for my garage.
Not much room
@sirturd4966 Love it. Have had the saw for about 2 years. Rack and pinion still smooth as the day it cam out of the box. My only concern on the rack&pinion is me knocking it as I walk around it (it is permanently setup in my shop and walkway is narrow). So, when I am not using it I make sure I put it back into, as much, a neutral position as I can.
Only complaint on the saw overall is I can never get the riving knife to stay aligned to the blade. And the adjustment screws for it are not in the best place, kind of a pain in fact. Have been times I remove it for a single cut, but I don't recommend that.
I'm a musician that works with mixing music in the studio and the standard for maximum levels mix music at is 80-85 dbs. So the fact that the Delta is only 85 is really impressive. I've been agonizing over what to replace my Ryobi job site saw with and while I was already leaning toward the Delta (longer lead in, space for an auxiliary table (i.e. router), height and angle locks) the lower sound level seals the deal.
This review was thorough and really informative. The only thing I didn't see was how to do squaring adjustments...but I'm sure there are other videos on that.
I am a 68 yr old woman, and I have the Dewalt. I have 2 move it daily out n2 my driveway 2 work on it. Let me tell u, it's a breeze 2 move around and set up. Big wheels and very well balanced.
Thanks for sharing your experience with the DeWALT!
It really comes down to how and where you will be using the saw; job site- DeWalt; permanent location-Delta.
Thanks for the video.
I agree Talbert! Thanks for watching!
These are my 2 choices right now to upgrade from my craftsman. Thanks for helping me make up my mind. I believe that I am going with Delta.
Cant go wrong either way but if had to do it again I’d still get the Delta. Thanks for watching!
I am not a contractor needing to haul a saw around. The Delta is much more substantial and love the cast iron table. Th cast iron table is convenient for flat surface when needed for other needs.
Thanks for this detailed and thorough review. You've helped me make my final choice. I'm shopping for my first table saw that has the room for plywood along with the finesse to make more precision woodworking projects. The Delta looks like a fine value.
I have the Delta but have used the Dewalt. In my personal opinion, the two saws have different purposes. The Dewalt is better for Job site but the Delta is better for small shops. As for storage, it depends on how you have your shop laid out as to if the storage really matters.
For sure these saws are different animals. Ppl often ask which to buy between the two so I made this video. Thanks for watching!
I really appreciate the decibel measurements. I have the DeWalt and it's a great saw, but it is *extremely* loud. I work in the unfinished part of my basement. Because It has cinder block walls, sounds have a tendency to echo, making the noise levels that much louder. Hearing protection is an absolute must.
Mike I know we talked about the wings on the delta but I basically made a maple butcher block 1 1/2” thick and replaced the wonky wings in the saw. Definitely added weight an stability. Idk if you remember, We were talking about hardware to lock them in to the angle iron an I wound up using cross dowel bolts to lock in the wings and came out perfectly and beautiful now I have hurt feeling issues sliding wood across them because they’re so nice looking but used urethane to protect the wings but truthfully it is a saw and most important it worked really well ! Another great video! Ps I still love my delta!
Hey Michael! Glad to hear it worked out with the wings. Shame there’s no pictures allowed in the comment section I’d love to see how it turned out. Thanks for watching as always!
I know you shared your email with me let me see what I can do mabey an idea for a video for you haven’t seen one out there yet I just don’t have the creator side in me with all the editing lol!
The butcher block was a great idea. I too was disappointed with the wings that came with it and was getting tired of that open zone gap past the end of the wing, so just last week I used 3/4 ply board with a 2" border below for attachment (thanks Eric Spencley for the video on that). Happy with that and with the saw in general.
I just got the Dewalt. It looks like they recently upgraded the miter gauge. The one on display at Lowe's still had the gauge like the one you showed. Mine was all metal and sturdy. I think it was the same size, but better material. It still wasn't as good as the one on the other saw, but at least it might be usable.
Glad to hear they started giving a serviceable miter gauge! Thanks for watching!
I own the Delta and I got it on clearance for 50% off and couldn’t be happier. I got more than my moneys worth. I added a router table insert which increased the value of it.
Where did you find it on clearance? I’ve been looking everywhere lol
I went through making this same decision on which saw to buy over the past couple of months. I finally settled on the Delta a couple of weeks ago and brought one home. (Getting that heavy bastard in and out of the back of my Toyota Rav4 was fun 🤣) I have used it for a couple of projects and I have to say I am really happy with it as it is a significant step up from my crappy plastic and aluminum job site saw. The Delta saw was perfectly aligned with the miter slots and fence right out of the box and I really like the accuracy I have been able to achieve with it. It is definitely not a cabinet saw but the size and mobility really works well in my small shop. (I wouldn't want to have to load it up and take it to a job site though) I have no problems cutting 4/4 walnut and maple with the saw. I do want to upgrade the wings to cast iron eventually and I did swap out the blade for a better CMT 24 tooth ripping blade.
If you swap the Rav4 for an old 4Runner we have the same story. Over 3 years on and that Delta works same as the day I brought it home. I couldn't be happier. One of these days I'll get those Sawstop cast wings for it. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the in- depth comparison especially the noise level and I don't see a similar comparison in YT. Overall the Delta is a winner obviously.
They are both winners really. Just in different categories. I do love that Delta though! Thanks for watching!
Hi Mike,
I enjoyed this comparison.
I recently purchased the DeWalt. Your information about the miter gauge material is out of date. They are now metal.
They are still not good because the bar is too short and has too much play.
Yet they are metal not plastic.
Also I was not concerned with the noise because I wear ear protection and the loudest noise comes from cutting wood not running the saw without cutting and this is true whether using a cabinet saw or a contractor saw, both of which I have used for decades.
Thanks for the info on the miter gauge. The saw in the vid is about eight years old. You make a solid point about the noise when cutting and we’ll have to do that in the next one. Hopefully with a more professional dB meter. Thanks for watching!
Delta is the better saw IMO. I replaced my Dewalt with the Delta and have zero regrets other than wishing I had bought the Delta instead of the Dewalt in the first place.
Honestly I’ve been impressed with both of these saw but they are very different. The size of the Delta alone makes it my clear favorite. Thanks for watching!
Disagree. The Delta has a few quirks about it that are maddening. I didn't realize how bad the Delta was until I had a SawStop contractor saw.
I’m happy to report that I finally got a dial indicator made to run in the miter slots(actually an amazing Temu buy, 30bucks give or take). I can’t believe that my delta was factory set absolutely perfect. I’m a beginner and finally making jigs as well as taking the time to dial it all in. I’d love a cabinet saw but honestly, the delta will do everything I need it to. Good blades and having it dialed, the potential this saw has is amazing for the price point. I’d love some cast iron wings but these ones haven’t affected anything I’ve done yet. I cut some strips of oak today to trim out my sled, just to see, I put them together and got glue line joints no matter how I rearranged the strips. I’m no expert but that means everything is perfectly aligned. Can’t beat it with a simple trip to the store
I agree that Delta is tough to beat for the cash. Good luck with the new hobby and thanks for watching!
I would go with the Delta; more top surface and you can also add a router tabletop to it if you want love how quite it is, but I hear that's because it's a belt drive which I'm happy with.
@longfeather: Neither is belt driven and the Delta motor is reputed to fail.
Which router insert would you recommend for the Delta table saw?
The delta site and manual both say it's belt driven, are you sure it's direct drive?@@really2345
Just in case others happen upon this thread, according to the Delta website, it is belt driven... "This is a BELT DRIVEN machine that offers low vibration and easy tensioning."
Nice video on two of the best non-cabinet saws available, Mike. The DeWalt is the top of the line jobsite saw. The Delta is the best shop saw. Once you get above this level prices go triple and above quickly.
It seems like there is a big void in the market for shop saws in the $1000.00 range that are a step up from the Delta, but less than Grizzly, Powermatic, or SawStop.
Thanks! Noticed a few minutes ago that Menards has Rikons Contractor saw on super sale at about $850. Looks intriguing. I'll look more into that because you're right there's a 2x jump in price to get to the next tier. Thanks as always for watching
@@ProjectsForAllReviews Nice deal. Normally that saw is $1500.00, and the best deal I've seen is $1200.00 @ Woodcraft. There isn't a Menard's within 400 miles of me, so I guess I'll stick with my Delta.
Not much in the way of reviews on the Rikon on UA-cam, and I've yet to actually see one in person I'd be interested to see if it's enough of an upgrade to the Delta to justify 2 - 2.5X the price.
Check out this model fresh out of the oven, Grizzly G0962A40 at $850
@@ARIVEstyle Yeah, that looks nice. Same capacity as the Delta with full 2HP motor and 120/240V power options. Almost 300 lbs. I wonder how well it rolls on the casters, as I see there's an optional mobile base for it.
I like it!
@@ST-0311 Don't forget it has 4" to connect dust collector. 120v at 15amp
I agreed with Woodrawsmith, but I own a Dewalt Job site Saw for about eight years and I am constantly calibrating and fine tuning my saw to get the best results, again for a portable saw, in my opinion is the best in the market (price and availability). I have fabricated from fine furniture to a complete home with it… in the old days they use to do everything by hand and all was done as accurate as they could, and that furniture still around… workmanship is the craftsman, not the machine, with all do respect.
One of the biggest reasons I'm considering the delta is the fence. From what i understand once it is set up it is dead accurate which is what you need for actual woodworking. As far as ive been able to figure the Delta is the cheapest saw that has a descent fence? Correct? I mean i don't want to have to measure the front and back of the blade to check for a straight cut everytime.
Ive never once felt compelled during a project to measure the fence to blade with a tape measure. The ruler and fence on the Delta is 100% rock solid and accurate in my experience of over 3 years owning it. If you get it spend extra time setting it up and should be good to go. I have multiple vids on that saw check out this playlist. Thanks or watching!
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Great vid. Currently looking for a 7491 to replace my craftsman 113. I had one of those deltas in my sights a couple years back, theyre great too. Nice breakdown
@17:25 The DEWALT fence can be stored UNDER the table, which further decreases its folded-up storage size and helps protect the fence in transport.
Wow. EXCELLENT comparison review. The decibel difference was astounding though. Ouch!!! I own the DWE7491RS--needed portability, but good to know it stacks up so well against the much larger Delta saw--except for the noise and the larger table/fence size.
That Dewalt is an excellent saw IMO but there's definitely concessions that have to be made to get the portability. Thanks for watching!
I chose the DeWalt since I have a duch a tight place. It's working well with a ton of jigs even though I would have preferred a larger saw. It takes a dado stack but then the height adjustment started moving on me. Had to lock it with cable ties😅. Thanks for the video.
Enjoyed the video! I’m trying to decide between these 2 saws.
How flat is each surface? The cast iron on the delta seems like it is likely potentially much flatter.
Can you measure them? Thanks!!!!
Great video!, still trying to decide on what would be a great beginner / novice saw.
IMO there's no such thing as a beginner saw. There is definitely different price points, sizes and quality. Best advice I can give is get the largest and best quality you can afford. If you end up using it a lot you won't regret it! Thanks for watching!
Mike, have you had any reliability issues with the Delta? I like the Delta but too many negative reviews complaining of motor issues and poor customer service kept me from buying. I really enjoy your detailed and comprehensive review videos. You’re definitely one of the best on YT! Thanks!
Hello! I’ve been beating that Delta for over 3 years and it’s still 100% trouble free! I’ve been looking at a couple slightly more expensive contractor size saws from Grizzly and Rikon for review but they would have to be really amazing for me to replace the Delta. A friend of mine just bought one a month ago and so far so good with his too. If there’s a Lowes close to you, you can return it if it doesn’t work out. I returned the defective Ridgid R4520. Just sucks putting it all back in the box! Good luck and thanks for watching!!
@@ProjectsForAllReviews Thanks Mike! I appreciate you taking the time to reply.
They silently fixed the motor issues sometime in the last year or so - I wish not-so-silently, since I'm on a pretty active Facebook group for this saw and 90% of the people who join immediately ask, "What about the motor?" (I'm guessing they don't want to admit there was a problem in the first place)
I have had the T1 for 7 yrs. The motor issues were very rare if you consider the number of saws they sell. Best bang for your buck by far
this video helped me make my decision on which saw to buy. Thank you.
Excellent review, my man. I like your no BS approach.
I’ve watched this video several times and I’m so torn between the two saws. My issue is getting the Delta down a flight of stairs to my basement. I’m thinking I could strap the cast iron top to my hand truck and take it down step by step. The remaining pieces I can carry down by hand then assemble the whole thing. Anyway, I’ll probably go for it and just buy the Delta.
Thanks Keith! It’s been a few years since I assembled that Delta but I remember it breaking down into manageable pieces. I think you be ok bringing it into a basement. Good luck and thanks for watching!
Thank you for posting. Wow, I didn’t realize how quiet the Delta is.
Induction motors are impressively quite for sure. Makes it a pleasure to to use. Thanks for watching!
Thank you for this. I've looked at both of these (plus the Ridgid that is similar to the Delta). I am leaning toward a mobile saw as I want to store it in my shed and bring it to my driveway (or use in the backyard for projects there). The large wheels are critical to that, but the ability to fold down is essential for shed storage as well. However, all the jobsite saws I looked at could not take a dado stack, so this is encouraging. I almost pulled the trigger on the 8-1/4" Dewalt with the crazy sale last week ($250!) but want to future proof myself a little. While I have no need for a dado stack yet (still learning my router), I feel like I will want one within a year or two. I'm concerned with the fence strength, though, as I could see myself wanting to clamp sacrificial fences. I wonder if anyone has done this successfully with the weak aluminum.
Really enjoying your channel. Thanks again!
Thank you for throwing another wrench in my plans! I was sold on the delta. I’ve got a Bosch job site saw now and thought the delta was an upgrade. Now I’m thinking I’m better off saving for a grizzly or jet. I don’t like on the delta that the support isn’t there until you fully extend the fence
Seems there's always a tradeoff. I still own and love that Delta but we have the Ridgid clone in the box in the shop and hopefully we'll get it out to review in the next month or so. Maybe we'll find some design updates? Thanks for watching Benjamin!!
Im pretty sure that's not a support fence on the Delta. It's for cutting very thin material. The Dewalt needs that feature because of the smaller table space.
If you need to take a saw away from the shop and into a job site get the Dewalt. Both saws can easily be moved around the work shop. As price is competitive, the Delta is the superior workshop saw.
I had the Dewalt and gave it away! I hated the fence! I love the DELTA all around!
Thanks for watching!
I love my Dewalt (DWE7491RS). The portability and folding option were a must. I can pick it up and load it in a truck or in out of a shed by myself.
Thanks of watching!
How is the rack and pinion fence?
Thanks for this and your other table saw review/comparison videos, they've been very helpful. I'm a bit torn, the Dewalt (or any good jobsite saw) seems like the better choice for the size of my small one car garage and ability to get it out of the way, but noise and short infeed length seem problematic. I could rig up some sort of infeed extension, but at the cost of compromising access to controls/the power switch. And there doesn't seem to be any workaround to the noise, universal motors are just freaking loud. Would limit when I can work due to neighbor proximity. On the other hand, I feel like if I'm gonna get something bigger like the Delta that will prevent me from parking in the garage, maybe it makes more sense to save a bit more and get a cabinet saw with fewer compromises (or at least a hybrid with cabinet-mounted trunnions and flat cast iron extensions).
Sounds like you have a lot of thinking to do! I’m really good at overweighting my options when making a big purchase. Good luck and thanks for watching!
Thank you for these reviews, I'm in the market for an affordable saw but one that I can still make precision cuts. I think I'm going to go with the lowes Delta.
Good choice Tate! Good luck with the new saw!
Would the delta be good enough for building kitchen cabinets?
I am torn between these 2. I still can't decide. Great video.
Best advise= if you have the space get the Delta. You won’t regret it. Thanks for watching!
Great Review!! If it helps someone Rigid has the clone to the Delta also. Made by the same company in the same factory. I love the Rigid!! But you want some kind of dust collection ! I was able to fab the 52” rails delta offers onto mine since Rigid doesn’t offer it. But obviously can’t be moved around as easily. Leaves a nice place for a router table built in though!! It’s extremely accurate just using the fence
Thanks for watching!
Do you think the Delta is quieter due to the fact that it's more of a stationary saw vs jobsite saw? Would a jet tablesaw be similar in terms of decibals?
I have a smaller DeWalt the blade lift just stripped out, it's been a good saw, but it has a aluminum table, the Delta I assume is cast iron which I don't think you mentioned, so much more you can do with it, good miter bars , mag switch ect..., I bought a aftermarket cross cut sled and the ball bearings wore out the coating on the table and now it has slop, I would much rather have a cast iron table !!! But then space and portability, what a dilemma! Damn it ! Good video though.
Once you reach the level of the Delta (price wise), one might consider if they are better served with a track saw setup instead. I've owned both saws here as well as a Kreg track saw with the full Accu-cut system and the track saw system was better than either of these (and took up less space stored than either as well). The difference between the Kreg setup and the Delta is about 200-300 but it is crazy how much better of a system the track saw setup is.
Have you done a video comparing the larger Skilsaw worm drive jobsite saw to the Delta? They’re pretty comparable in price, and the worm drive is supposed to be next class powerful. I wonder if those are closer to each other for a woodworker on a garage on a budget without a dedicated 220-240v outlet.
I’ve searched and failed to find a video from you on that. Apologies if I have missed it tho.
Thanks for the great content
The decibel difference is insane! If I had the room, I'd have a delta size saw all day long even thought my DWE7491 is very capable for it's size. Thanks for the reviews as always sir!
I really think the DeWalt is just as capable and definitely has its own advantages. Being quiet just isn't one of them. Thanks for watching!
Thank you for this review! I will have to go with the Delta.
Thanks for watching!
Im using a dewalt DWE7491RS right now, and although I like it, I wish i got a steel table rather than the aluminum. For me that's the biggest factor. The wood slides more smoothly on a steel table than the dewalt.
It seems cast aluminum is the table top material of choice nowadays. Thanks for watching!!
Mike, missed you buddy! Another great video. I need both types, so thanks for this demo. The Delta (though, I don't have the T2 model) is for the shop and I'm not giving it up. But, that DeWalt is a sweet portable machine that I can get into the truck and work on-site ; therefore, I needed to know if it was worth the money. Believe it or not, I've been rocking a Craftsmen portable saw with a rolling stand for the last fifteen years. It doesn't owe me any money and it's tired; so, I guess I can retire it.
That DeWalts a pretty sweet machine Meat! It is a beast though. I have to dead lift it and turn it sideways to fit it in my 4Runner so I don't have to remove the kid seat. I get a kick out everyone in the comments having the same story of using some cheap job saw for two decades before finally getting a big "pro" saw. I spent my two decades with a really bad Blue Ryobi. Thanks as aways for watching!
Thanks for your most honest opinions on the Delta vs other brands. I currently have a Ryobi 10 inch I bout about a year ago I haven't used it much until recently. I will say this I am very disappointed in it I have begun the look for a better saw and while I looked at the Delta saw when I bought the Ryobi I jut didn't want to spend that much. Now I wish that I had. I am now planing on buying the Delta. how ever I am curious, you said the wings on the saw are not quite adequate, and your fence hits the corner bad enough to cause you concern, Have you spoke with the company to see if there is anything that could be done? also I just thought and you may have already looked at this. is there an adjustment on the rail or front bar to maybe stop this from happening? Is the rail itself perfectly square and level? It is possible it may have been damaged in packing or shipping. Anyway I like your reviews keep them coming. One last thing I have been looking and have not seen anything on the 36-725T2 Vs The 5000 Series they look very similar It would be nice to see a comparison.
Hello Jimmie! It seems we all figure out the hard way that Ryobi table saws are a bad place to start. Sounds like a good video topic! As far as the wings on my Delta go, check out the numerous vids on my channel addressing this. Essentially they are bowl shaped, meaning high on the edges and low in the center. I don’t think much can be done with these stamped wings but there are a few options. The wings are 27 inches front to back which is a pretty normal size and Sawstop cast iron wings will fit with some new holes drilled for about $300. I also have a viewer who made his own butcher block wings
I’ve never seen a Delta 5000 series saw but they look identical to me except iron wings and an additional $1000. Doesn’t look like a very cost effective option. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for your reply I am not sure if i could do a review on the Ryobi my self It would probably take a week to make a 10 minute video. I am watching your video on the Skill Router table. I have seen a few vid's where people are using the Bosch Router table and mounting it to the end of the Delta Table saw they say it is a perfect drop in. any how I you can I like to see your take on the Bosch router table they offer a few different models with aluminum top. I think its the RA1181 but not sure.
Thanks again for your reviews I like the honest take on them.
Is there a metal piece on the Delta at the end of that plastic piece? Basically I’m wondering if it breaks, is there a longer lasting metal piece to clamp a flex hose or diy fix to?
I have the dewalt and the t72 delta and man what a difference
Thank you for this video! Exactly the internal debate I'm having right now
Glad I was able to help! Thanks for watching!
I have a small garage which is already over-crowded with sidewall benches filled with bench-top power tools plus another work bench and a portable 10 inch table saw I have used for over 30 years taking up space in the middle of the floor.
I wanted to upgrade to a newer table saw with better specific feathers than mine has and for more portablility so I purchased that particular Dewalt at Home Depot today. Besides, it was on sale right now for approximately $100.00 less than the one I was going to get from Harbor Freight of which was out of stock at that particular Harbor Freight store right now anyway.
To get the one I was going to get from Harbor Freight I would have had to drive another 200 miles round-trip to another one of their other stores of which they said had 3 in stock in another town. I had already driven 50 miles one way just to get to the Harbor Feight store whre I was already at.
Home Depot was only just across the street from the Harbor Freight Store where I was at. So guess where I went next.
The only thing I am not thrilled about and don't like is the fact that the Dewalt I got, is only an "8-1/4 inch" blade where the one from Harbor Freight is a "10 inch" blade of which my original portable table saw is, though all the rest of the features of what the Dewalt has on it is exactly what I needed and wanted.
I wish you would have talked about the motors. I want to cut hardwoods and do not need to move around, have a dedicated space. Based on your review and your commentors, sounds like I should get the Delta. Thanks!
If you don't need the portability then the Delta is the obvious choice IMO. I still love mine despite usually having at least 6 job saws to test at any given time. Both these saws have the power to do any process you want but the table space and reduced noise of the Deltas induction motor make it a pleasure to use. Good luck and thanks for watching!
Thanks for the good side by side comparison.
My pleasure! Thanks for watching!!
Wasn't sure what to get but since watching your videos on the Delta, I'm leaning towards getting one of them.
Glad I helped! Thanks for watching!
I have never regretted buying my Delta. I have had none of the motor problems that have been mentioned here and other places. All of the alignment adjustments are very straightforward, except for the front to back blade/miter slot alignment, which was quite the PITA (most come from the factory dead on but mine was not). Powerful enough for everything I have done on it, including a full dado stack. Keep your eyes on the Lowe's site and who knows maybe they will have another unicorn price like they did Xmas 21 when I got mine.
@@JohnSmith-ld1pw I’m with ya! Love that saw and it works as good as the first time I fired it up!
Thank you for the video. One question? Can the Delta saw be mounted on a mobile cart like the smaller Delta job site saw? I don't care for the Dewalt cart. If anyone that follows you has done so, please advice.
I’ve never seen one and I would guess it’s probably too big and heavy to be practical. Would be a fun metal working project to make a folding cart like the big Skilsaws for it. Thanks for watching!
Awesome video sir! Do you have any plans to review the Metabo HPT 36v Table saw? The specs seem pretty impressive and the option to go battery powered or plug in seems like an awesome idea. Thank you for the great content!
Hello! Yes well get to that 36v saw soon! I agree the battery adapter is pretty cool. It would turn any tool on that platform to corded. Keep an eye out for that vid! Thanks for watching!
I have the first generation Delta saw and the motor has a switch to change from 120v to 240v. I watched a video where they showed that when using 240v that the saw is less likely to bogg down, even though the power (wattage) is the same. It also uses less amps when higher voltage. Im betting the T2 alao has this. Just and added benefit (if you habe 240v accessibile or are building a ship like i was, and planned for it.)
Unfortunately the T2 does not have the 240v option like the original. Would have been nice to have the choice. Thanks for watching!
Excellent video. I got the delta. It’s a no brainer if you have space.
Yep I agree Arvin! Thanks for watching!
i love my dewalt but youre right it is noisy.. it stores out of the way easily and i can put it in my car if i need to.. its the first table saw ive owned (after i returned the craftsman the day that i bought it) who knows ..if i had a bigger shop? thanks for your review
Thanks for watching!
Love my delta. Only had it since Dec but it's a huge improvement over my old one. Quite and with a zero insert cuts quite well with the included blade but I will be changing that soon. Just wish the dust collection was a bit better.
I agree the dust is a pain but I still feel I got more than I paid for over three years later. Thanks for watching!
Does your delta have the rack and pinion on the fence?
Dude... the Delta is a beast, but it purrs. That's crazy.
Thanks for watching!
I have an old Delta 3 phase and it purrs. Not sure why that DeWalt was so damn loud.
The Delta is a much better saw all the way around. I’ve had mine for about a year and it was a huge upgrade over my DeWalt FlexVolt job site saw.
With some minor modifications the Delta will perform almost any task that a cabinet saw will major difference is horsepower. I have used this Delta and the UniSaw.
Yep! Love that Delta. Thanks for watching!
Awesome video btw! Very informative 👍
Glad you liked it! Thank you!
This is a very interesting comparison. I own the delta table saw. I don't think you can compare a portable job site saw to the Delta. Maybe Delta has their saw described in the wrong category. I think the delta is in the same stationary class as the Laguna or saw stop. After I added the Incra TSLS fence and the Incra router table add on, the Delta in my case is hard to beat for accuracy and money spent. btw I am operating this saw on a dedicated 20 amp circuit. Thanks for the review. Cannon with until you get your hands on a Incra LS Fence!
This vid was made because viewers commonly asked which one to buy. I’ve been eyeballing that Incra fence system for probably 10 years. I’ll get one eventually for a review but it looks amazing. Thanks for watching Theodore!
Been watching a few of your reviews lately. Honest views and concise. a big plus is you don't feel the need to insert that dipshit filler muzac. Wish more would follow your lead. You've earned another subscriber. Thanks and keep up the good work, Sir.
Is the delta cast iron top
I wonder if the fence on the delta can be unbolted and spun around so the secondary fence can then be used to support stock. Just a thought it may not work sir
Possibly it could be done. You would have to make new end brackets that allow it to drop below the table top also. It would probably be easier to add another wing to fill the gap on the right side as a support. Thanks for watching!
On the delta fence can't you unbolt the 2 aluminum rails and flip them so you can use the secondary fence on the right side of the saw?
Nope. You're stuck with left secondary cut and no material support at 30 inches right rip. I love that saw but some things could have been thought out a little better. Thanks for watching!
Dewalt for travel. Delta for diy shop
I agree. Thanks for watching!
Is the delta rack and pinion on the fence?
My concern is trusting fence parallel with blade
no, larger table saws don't have the rack and pinion. Still an accurate fence, and you can check and adjust as needed.
How does the delta compare with the skilsaw spt99?
Expect it to be very similar to this Dewalt at least in size and quality. Thanks for watching!
Get the Delta and a bigger garage. :)
Solid advise! Thanks for watching!
what i find weird about the dewalt 7485 is the angles. the wheel is hard to move and get in the right spot. the red thing to choose the angle with isnt the best. also the mitre gauge slot has loads of play in it. why??????????? the fence is solid (95 percent) sometimes get play in one end. and its not always at 90 to the table.
I purchased a used Contractor saw like the one in your videos. I have more cast iron on my saw and it is very heavy.
My contractor saw is in very good condition. I have to place a rust remover on the cast iron, but other than that, I am impressed with it.
The small tabletop saw is over 50 years, and it was my daddy's saw. Like the Dewalt, it is very loud to use, and the fence is like one where you have to measure the distance on the front and back of the blade to make sure of two things:
The first is the fence which needs multiple measurements so the back and front of the saw will cut correctly and not change the wood one is cutting (smaller in the back and larger in the front).
The second is the pinching of the wood when it is being sent through the saw. This could happen because of a weaker fence than the larger contractor saw.
My preference is the contractor saw, but that cannot be moved easily.
These newer portable saw with rack and pinion fence systems are amazing! I started with a blue Ryobi with a very weak fence. If the motor had been powerful enough to kick back that Ryobi would have killed me years ago. I really appreciate owning the Delta after a lot of years with that Ryobi! Thanks for watching!
Oh i didnt see this video. Its funny pros on one machine but cons on other (including skilsaw) its like no machine has both lol. Prices running atm dewalt is on sale for 549, skil is 649 and delta is 700. Noise isnt much of factor as i use my gun ear muffs (tho i guess neighbors lol). Ill eventually pick one, main concern is any major flaws. I would be usin rip fence alot idk how accurate they are or if there easy to align if not. I know dust collection is important since im in basement (cold is hard on tools and if i make a side job i dont want to ruin it more than i need to. I dont want to have too much dust everywhere. I do have a standard shop vac.
Try Delta or Dewalt saw with a Diablo blade could make it easy 10db less noisy
That’s an interesting idea I hadn’t thought of. We’re doing more table saws very soon and we’ll see if you’re correct. Thanks for watching!
Great review my friend. Thanks
Glad you liked it Gerald! Thanks for watching!
if ur a tradesmen , a joiner then your willing to work hard. so if you ditch the idea of the stand and legs then the dewalt is not even that heavy. youve done 8 hours of solid work so whats the extra of picking the saw up.?
It is just nice to have it’s own fixed place so you do not need to find someplace to sit it on.
no one wants to work on the ground though, so you'd have to build or set up a stand for it.
6:32 "Fence is rock solid" while it wobbles around when you are wiggleing it back and forth. I thought about the DeWalt, but sure is plasticy in this video.
I have the exact same DeWalt saw displayed/discussed in this video. It has performed flawlessly, but I do have a gripe ... OK, 2 gripes. Yes, the miter is crap and I knew that up front, but the 2 miter slots are not the same width. And that may be related to my second gripe. The aluminum table top is far from being flat. I haven't measured the thickness variations, but I've grown sick of this issue. Likewise, the Delta table has also been reported being not perfectly flat. Two videos I've seen measured 0.008" in one, and around 0.030" in another. I can probably live with 0.008", not not with 0.030" (almost 1/32"). Thus, the search for my next table saw continues.
Have you compared the Rikon 10 table saw to the Delta
You’ve hit a nerve with this comment because Menards has the Rikon on super sale till 02/26 and I’ve been debating pulling the trigger for a week. Keep an eye out, it may be Rikon Vs Delta time soon! Thanks for watching!
@@ProjectsForAllReviews i have just looked online at Menards and like the price but i really like the Delta price. But Lowes doesn't keep it in stock and if i apply for their card i like the payment plans
What worries me about the Rikon is it looks very similar to the Ridgid R4520 which you can see on the channel and wasn’t very good. We’ll see….
@@ProjectsForAllReviews yes i watched it and i was thinking about buying until i watch this. Thank you.