Everything Wrong With The Witch In 12 MInutes Or Less
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2016
- Here's a 2016 horror film that received generally good reviews from audiences and critics alike. Just because we didn't' like it doesn't mean it's not good. I think. Here are the sins of The Witch.
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Its a shame CinemaSins misunderstood the movie. This movie is a masterpiece.
oh i understand this channel, ive been watching them for awhile now. Im just saying that his points contradict the meaning of the movie. Im not complaining, i thought some of his points were funny and i laughed. not sure what youre say about us "people" as you say.
yeah i love this channel, and lot of the movies he rams. no need to apologize, i completley understand what youre talking about.
this movie was some pompous writer trying to remake "the shining" but only made it completely terrible...
thanks for your opinion?
john panoulias not sure what youre trying to accomplish
Did anyone else notice how Thomasin's hair was slowly coming out of her bonnet more and more throughout the film? What a clever way to represent her slow transformation away from puritanism into witchcraft.
Lord this movie has so many details... Thanks!
An actual insightful aspect to the movie instead of hurrr durrrr the kid has a beanie....dats not Puritan clothes.... hurrr durrr.
Oh my, didnt notice that!!
Or her hair was just falling out
"Into a witchcraft." Yeah, that's how English works. And I mean CURRENT English, not Old English.
I like how the mother kept getting witchier and witchier herself...
So...perhaps the mom was a vvitch
She didn’t? She just got worried for her children.
That or she was increasingly stressed about living the hardest life imaginable while having to take care of children that keep disappearing into the woods or coming back as crazy harbingers of doom or perceiving them to have murdered your husband.
In this movie, You can see her gradually transform into a witch by fuck you no she doesn’t.
She rejected the deal offered...
@@rezboy4 did she? I mean, "looking at the devil's book and having a familiar spirit suckle at your teat" was literally the recruitment for witchcraft in the 17th century
The performance by Caleb's actor when he is dying and crying out to the Lord deserves 50 sins off. The best acting I've ever seen from a child actor in any movie.
What I loved about that scene was that it was done all in 1 take. Incredible acting from such a young boy.
Agreed!
@@peachyqueen4399 how you know?
YES. freaked me the fuck out
i gave this the 666th like! :D
I'm pretty sure bloodletting was a commonly recommended procedure for everything back in the day. gotta let that bad blood out so you can get healthy again.
bluchismoon it wasn't always blood letting, but yeah they did it to balance the humuors, they believed when you have too much or too little of a certain humour it causes different ailments
it turns down fevers...caus you know...you don't have enough blood to have fever...
People would also drill a hole in people's heads to get the demon out of their mind.
Actually, that's how George Washington died....
George got the plague?? 0r he died from excessive bloodletting ? Come to think of it...Has there been a Black
plague outbreak here in the USA, EVER?
What I loved about this movie is that it wasn't a bunch of cheap stupid jump scares, it actually let the horror build up in the viewer
What horror?? Oh, you mean like the laughable scene with the crow? Super scary... or really funny (my entire theater laughed).
Channing Pennington that was just gore, not the actual horror, why don't you go watch a "Saw" movie, that seems more your speed.
Channing Pennington
What's YOUR definition of a good recent horror movie?
So, to you it's build up, to other's its boring, and slow.
Nick Lampedecchio to idiots with the attention span of a squirrel who would probably be better off watching "Ouija".
calebs death performance should get a sin off for how great an actor he is!
holy shit yes, I was amazed by him
Yeah, I have to agree. Riveting performance..
that was an amazing performance! besto of the movie
also the dad
Yess! It’s like CS said “this is so obviously good that I’m adding a sin”
I watch every movie with subtitles. Protip for avid movie watchers you always get such important pieces of information with subtitles on....its actually pretty clutch.
ME TOO!!! You catch so much more when watching movies with subtitles.
I normally watch without but for VVitch it was a great idea. Lots of thick accents with very very early English
A Thomas ya mean captions?
In that case I agree, ya really need captions for Mother! since it names all the characters as they speak and help ya to understand what is happening and how they behave
Been doing it for years!!!
Same
Caleb puked up an Apple because Thomason told him how much she wanted one earlier. I bet it's supposed to be a gift for her.
something like that yes ... an obvious reference to the apple lie he told
What an asshole.
No, he told that to his mother and saved William from an argument about not going in the woods
@@hello.im.auggie When him and Thomasin were at the brook they have a convo about apples, after he looks down her shirt. I think it might also have to do with the biblical relevance of the apple and original sin.
its an allusion to the bible... the whole movie is
I thought Caleb vomited the apple because he'd lied to his mother and told her that he and Thomasin were looking for apples in the woods?
Hamar Fox fuck black Philip
Nope the vvitch was just into some kinky shit
Caleb was sin from incest lust and lust at all (yeah puritan world and god that told us "If you think about woman in sexual wax you alreade fucked her by your soul")
ut incest was encouraged for a while. it wasn't till like 1920s till we punished it.
+Kurt
It wasn't an apple, it was a ball gag...
that got stuck deep in his throat....
after being fucked there by her strap on.
This film had some of the best child actors I've ever seen to be honest.
I still think jojo rabbit has the best child actors along with these
This is a very suspicious comment to make
@@guagguagerton2760 Last I checked I'm not Jared from Subway so no that's not what I was going for.
I know I'm just an ass hahaha
You should see It and Stranger Things too, those kids are great 😄
The “bunny” is actually a very ancient symbol of paganism and witchcraft.
Yea, but the owner of this channel doesn't care about anything but views. It was a great movie with good symbolism and atmosphere, It's useless to hunt for mistakes
Astyr It was just a boring movie
@KingQuaye
nah the movie just sucks
@@astyrvela also as a youtuber you're suppose to care about views! that's kinda the point of making videos
is this why bunnicula scared me??
and the twins grew up to become hansel and gretel
They never did say what happened to the twins. True
V. Hall the twins died. The witch got them
@@barxs8552 Is that made clear anywhere in the movie, or is this an assumption?
V. Hall it's implied. Since the baby in the beginning was killed, the twins were no different
V. Hall If you listen while Thomasin is screaming in fear of the witch with the twins, you can hear the witch eating them.
This movie is very faithful to the 17th century idea of witches - They wrote their names in a book given to them by the Devil, they communed in Sabbats where they would dance naked around the Devil in the form of a black goat, they kidnapped babies to sacrifice and used their body parts to make potions called 'flying ointments' which they would rub on their bodies, they could change their shape, and they had Familiars - demon helpers in the form of animals - which they would breastfeed their own blood.
so this movie is only scary if you already are afraid of 16th century witches.
Should I be worried that you know so much about it ?
Hailee Mellark Maybe. Why, what have you heard?! :P
+lasarousi Are you that stupid? According to your "logic" :
"Rosemary's Baby, The Omen and The Exorcist are only scary to christians"
"Alien is only scary if you believe and are afraid of aliens"
"The Haunting, Ringu, The Sixth Sense are only scary if you believe and are afraid of ghosts"
Poor deduction skills there.
Lady Marmalade Not much to be honest hahaha
The poking a hole in his head was supposed to represent bloodletting, which was used as medical remedy for literally everything. The reason the movie doesn't really witch until the ending is because it's not just about witches, it's about how isolation, desperation and hunger can cause a very small community to turn on each other while going slowly insane. Thats why the horror is so minimal. It keeps the audience guessing if they are really experiencing something supernatural or is this family just going crazy. Also its called The Witch and not The Witches because it's about Thomasin.
you said what you said
It’s what killed George Washington.
10:51 - I think Thomasin was breathing heavily and since her mother is dead on top of her it looks like the dead body was breathing.
Also, I don't know if many people are aware of this, but there is a process that occurs between the states of life and death called "dying" where you can still display signs of life like breathing but be incapable of fighting.
IKR IT'S SO DAMN OBVIOUS
Thomasin was breathing and her mother is moving because she is on top of her.
The father voice = narrator goals
While it is a calming voice, it also sounds similar to what would happen if you got kicked in the throat insanely hard... STILL A GOAL THOUGH
I would’ve 400 people liking this comment there was only one reply
Like Number 500
I couldn’t stand it...
@@MsTinkerbelle87 😱
As for "Why the bunny," during this time period witchcraft was connected to hares, and it was said witches could turn themselves into hares. This in turn probably came from the use of a rabbit or hare as a pagan (read pre-Christian nature worship, not that devil-worship slander the Romans spread) symbol of fertility, and its connection with many pagan deities.
*vvitches
Just research, my friend. There are many books - and I'm sure, websites - that go into great detail the mythology built up about witches. It's really fascinating.
There is actually a folklore witchcraft which would allow a witch to create (or become, depending on the story) a rabbit-like creature that could literally steal the milk from cows in other farms and deliver it to you each night. Lemme get my book.
Here we go. It is told in my collected work "Folk Tales of the British Isles" published 1985 by the Folio Society. They have an Irish folk tale, collected and reprinted by a W.B. Yeats, whom titles the fable "Bewitched Butter".
Same goes for the black goat. Back in Ancient Greece, this was Pan - God of fertility. He had the head and hooves of a goat but the face and upper body of a man. Pan was accompanied by a group of women, know as the Bacchae. The Bacchae were all women, naked, with long and messy hair covering their backs and breasts. They would gather around Pan and sing and dance, while he chanted. The Greeks believed Pan's chanting left these women in supreme spiritual ecstasy, that granded them supernatural powers like flying and becoming invisible. Christianity took this whole image and twisted it around - Pan = Satan and his Bacchae = witches.
Also with the case of imagery a bunny are not seen as evil creatures but as cute. So with a ln evil bunny it puts a spin on the already laid down imagery
I would personally take 20 sins off for Anya Taylor-Joy’s performance.
This is her first movie, but her performance sounded like she was a seasoned actress because she was outstanding here.
One of the best newcomer acting i’ve ever seen.
“But it’s so slow and the horror is so minimal and confusing”
I think Jeremy doesn’t know how horror movies work
Blitz Nimbus cute
@Blitz Nimbus *Good horror movies
They'll sin for too many jumpscares and then sin again for attempting to create tension and genuine fear. But it's a satire channel so it's not that serious
This movie isn't even scary
@@ryanbach2748 nah it's just a little disturbing here and there. Especially the concept of baby jam and the crow-breast-feeding made me wince but they're not *scary*. The story and series of small misunderstandings leading to one big misunderstanding is done really well but it's also kind of predictable and not scary.
The demon bunny is a real folktale connected to witches
Not just Monty python
Anyone ever heard of Babbity Rabbity?
We know.
“Hare”
for real, id like to hear it lol
5:42
"Witch lures Caleb in by assuming he's a boob man"
he's a 12-14 year old boy... that's a safer bet then "assuming trees will die if you pour gasoline on them and light them on fire."
not to mention her face, hair, and overall figure are 9/10 at the least. I'd be lured in by her.
I know this channel is to sin the pettiest of petty complaints, but this is a non-sin. an anti-sin. If anything a sin should be removed.
woah you really liked that scene huh bub
Take 2 sins away.
One for each breast
Most sins are given when the viewer is given a chance to make a bad joke during a serious scene. "She's assuming this kid is a boob man lol" is a bad joke, and so the movie gets a sin for the scene.
*****
touche'. I did not actually watch the movie.
I redact my argument.
It's supposed to be a nod to his worst sin that he portrayed...he is very lustful so the witch tempted him with the form of a sexy young woman
6:33 Its called Bloodletting, during the colonial era it was supposed to let the "bad blood" drain out
I feel like a lot of people complain about the witch not being in much of the movie but the way I saw it was that Tomasine was the Witch the title was referring to and the movie was an origin story for her becoming a witch. It wasn’t just about a witch terrorizing a puritan family, it was how the fear affected the family and how unstable an environment it created for Tomasine. That’s why she finds the sabbath as her home in the end and becomes the Witch
Quick note regarding the logo, the director said in an interview that while researching old printed materials they found an instance in which witch was spelt with "VV", it wasn't a language thing, it's believed the printing press possibly didn't have a spare w to use, the director liked the look of it and applied it to the marketing materials.
OOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHH
It's true before printing presses could go through English standardization they used substitute letters, and even letters we don't use anymore, often because it was cheaper or more convenient. Honestly, this film is a true work of art.
It comes from Latin having U and V together because U was pronounced as a short "oo" and V was like how we say "W"; oovitch, witch. Latin has no V sound so there was no V letter as V was also U as you see in these engravings: EVROPA or ROMANVS, is Eooropa, or Romanoos. That is why W is called double U. or in French double V because of how they were used and then cojoined as a separate "wuh" for a long vv or uv.
The sub-par nitwit who made this video wouldn't take the time to look into that.
I learned this as an undergrad and it is useful information when searching historic databases like Jstor because you can get new search results if you make substitutions like this.
This is a genuine horror film.
Masterpieces like Rosemary's Baby, The Omen, Repulsion and The Haunting(the 60's one) are real horror films, they are super creepy and have only a handful of scares throughout the whole film.
I found the movie quite horrific and depressing. Worst part is yhis is the type of story they would tell children. Them poor kids.
Chris Connell Pretty much, yes, all those films i mentioned are depressing.
Is the Rosemary's Baby movie better than the book? I found the book to be horribly overrated.
MopedOfJustice Can't help you there, mate, never read the book, just watched the film and i consider it a masterpiece (many people see it that way). But since you already read the book, the thrill is pretty much gone and you won't be appreciating it much.
Roman Polanski is a great filmmaker, he also directed Repulsion, and i can safely say that his style differs from the book's author's.
Masterpiece? I was laughing my ass off during this movie because it was so dumb.
"You know what would help this kid's awkward sexual feelings towards his sister? Tickle fight!" 🤣🤣🤣😜
Knight Wind "Oh No!!!! are they gonna find out about tickle time?!!!" - That's My Boy
I Loved this movie, simply because it looks like something a non censored fairy tale would look like. Loved the eerie atmosphere and i like witches in general, so... Yeah. This movie was not bad for me.
Wow, I had no idea this movie was so polarizing. People either seem to love it or hate it. I watched it, and it managed to scare me. I don't mean jump scares, either. It's been a very long time since a movie has made me feel genuine terror and unease, and for that I consider this a good movie. It's amazing how captivating horror movies can be when real effort is put into them for once
I agree. I found this movie to really stick in my mind - which means it was a good horror film!
Agree 100%, before this, last horror film i really liked is The Sixth Sense, back in the late 90's, so yeah...
I'm so confused about those who dislike it. You would think they might have short attention spans, but my attention span is pathetically short and I loved this movie. I want more historical horror films!
+Devon Merriman
I'm guessing most of the people who disliked it saw in theater and/or with friends. I think this movie is best seen alone at home, as I did. How did you see it?
Cole Hunter I did see it in theaters and me and my friend loved it, but my mom was disappointed. She thought it would be more 'scary'. I dunno, we've always had vastly different tastes in media. But perhaps it has somewhat to do with expectations and paying a ticket for those expectations.
I'm surprised so many people find this movie slow and boring. I thought it was anything but. When I watch it, I try to put myself in Thomasin's shoes and think about how she must feel...the isolation, despair, grief, fear, betrayal. The loss of faith. I agree that it's not scary per se, but I find it to be very unsettling.
Agree.I find horror movies that truly scare you better than just jumpscares.
Jenny N Probably most of the ones who find it slow and boring are Americans who prefer jump scares to content.
No Name Needed Nah I don't hate Americans at all. I just get irritated by the bullshit they incessantly spew. Hollywood perpetuates the stupid, action-not-content obsessed, gun toting, God loving, boobs and bums, moronic stereotype and many Americans fall for the propaganda. I don't believe most Yanks are even half that idiotic. But they seem to champion it regardless of how ridiculous they appear to the rest of the world.
And they don't like to be taken the piss out of AT ALL. A bit of cheeky banter never hurt anyone. Us Brits are miserable, book reading, sarcastic, atheist, weather obsessed whingers so we just can't help poking Americans with a stick. And we all talk like the Queen or cockneys because we all live in London. The rest of the country is just farms. True story.
@Loulabelle And yet the rest of the world takes our money(aid), and wants our help with their problems. I know, the rest of the world can just fuck off. I'm happy we agree.(edited for grammar)
hugehappygrin The rest of the world wants help with their problems from you guys? What help are you giving them exactly? The kind of help you gave the Vietnamese? The Iraqis? Are you guys helping Syria at the moment?
Don't fall for that propagandist bullshit, American isn't helping ANYONE! Hey, the UK is just as bad, we are sitting back and doing sweet FA while Syria goes through one of the worst humanitarian crises the world has ever seen! The west rarely helps anyone. We sell them arms and stand back while children die in chemical attacks. Hey, it's far away right? Doesn't affect us.
I've grown corn and it takes about 4 or 5 months to grow (depending on weather, soil, the kind of seed you used and good attention)
Takes about 8-9 months to grow GOOD corn here that isn't just animal fodder.
This movie made me want to live deliciously.
Hey cinemasins, I can actually tell you why the witch was a bunny in that one scene, see, back then, people believed that seeing a rabbit meant you just saw a witch in disguise, and seeing as how this movie takes place in that timespan, its not surprising, your welcome if I cleared anything up :)
Tyrant The Indominus rex
Thank you. I actually have not seen this movie but now I want to. (I generally avoid "horror movies" on account of I find them formulaic and ridiculous) I love myths and folklore and I can immediately tell this is a well researched film. In fact, I have a couple books that have some different versions of the folktale the script is based on. In fact, the original version is Scottish, if I remember correctly. So, yes folks, the title card that opens the movie is actually telling the truth; this really is based on an old New England folktale.
Tyrant The Indominus rex It's actually a hare, even better for the movie.
scariest movie ever
Thee Apollo he was the goat for sure, all the other animals were the witches either using them as familiars or skinchanged into them
It's a hare not a rabbit x
I hope you do Don't Breathe. I saw it in theater and it's pretty good :)
And sin-able as hell
*****
It felt genuinely original to me. I'm not a huge horror fan, and over the top gore-fests don't appeal to me, so this movie felt like a good mix. plus I love the concept of the villain, and his motives was a bizarre twist :)
There was also no shaky cam sequences, or any scene where you couldn't see what was happening. Basically, I loved the camera work.
dork yface In my opinion that movie was the worst movie I've seen in a long time.
Triggered *****
Hey, everyone has their own opinions :)
it was awful
I loved this movie none the less. Its a perfect example how we feared Witchcraft back in those days.
or a perfect example of how witchcraft is being practiced in front of your face yet you fail to notice the blatantly obvious 🤣
@@negative949 Duh, it's illegal to perform magic infront of muggles
This isn't a horror movie, it's a period piece with horror elements.
That's why so many people were disappointed by this movie. They went in expecting the next Paranormal Activity, rather than a period piece drama. I'm glad I read reviews about the movie first, so I had the right mindset, and I ended up loving it.
Granted, it may have been advertised as a horror movie, but advertisements for movies are generally awful in recent years. They just mean to attract the biggest audience.
Hamar Fox this is the worst movie ever
Exactly, very few 'horror' elements though
The movie was touted as a horror movie, not a period piece with horror elements. It was marketed as such, and that is what everyone expected. Mind set or not, the movie was bad and disappointing. The rule of horror is less is more. Had they stuck with only hints and suggestions, and taken out the actual witch and the laughable scene at the end, the movie would have been much effective at toeing the line between suggesting the family is crazy and the idea that there is actually something paranormal afoot. You never show the monster, you only show ambiguous evidence of his existence.
In 17th century printers still used "VV" when they ran of "W"
NeoHCgbz How should I say that? I'm Spanish
It should be "ran". Don't worry about that other guy, he's just being a dick.
Thanks
lmfao too perfect
Bet he can't even sa hi in spanish properly ( same goes for me)
Something I can't unsee: the twins are actually in the fire at the end of the movie. It's weird that the movie doesn't draw any attention to this since it's messed up and explains both what happened to the twins and what that weird ceremony at the end is.
But man I love this movie. Such an unapologetic period horror.
They are? Guess I didn’t see that.
My God, people take this channel WAYY too seriously..
Because of its accuracy lol
This is such a fucking cop-out. "It'S jUsT jOkeS! It'S nOt sEriOuS! YOu'rE bUtThuRt iF yOu tAke iT sEriOuSlY!!"
Guess what? The guy running this channel literally makes MILLIONS off this job. It's not "just a joke." He understands nothing about film, can't follow even the most basic plots, and deliberately takes lines/scenes out of context to completely fabricate "sins."
This channel has a huge audience. The least this hack could do is learn something about film and make some valid points. Even his jokes aren't funny.
The "it's just a prank, bro" defense doesn't work when you've made this your career and become rich off of it. He doesn't even fucking TRY. It's insulting to the viewers.
"You can't criticize this channel because it's not being serious" cliché.
DING
@@amityislandchum shut the fuck up you dumb bitch
@@cwrr2330 Hahahahaha always hilarious to see an incel have a little outburst online! 😂
This is more of a psychological horror than a blood and guts horror. Like Stigmata. I think that's why people really didn't like this movie.
Theo ..the entire "lavish" runtime is devoted to showing the importance of religious beliefs to the characters.. wtf are you talking about?
Theo Bendit because this was set back during the early Puritan settlers....Do yoU know what being a Puritan means? I’d suggest looking up what and who they were before u ask why religion was so important to them. That’s basically asking why did they have to eat? Why would eating be so important to them?
I agree, good movie. Never understood the hate for this movie
Theo Bendit I mean unless you never took history growing up then I don’t see why there would be a need to elaborate on the religious aspect of these puritans. We know just fro history that Europeans went all over the world spreading the word of Christianity aka killing in the name of Jesus.
But I mean we’re all entitled to our opinions. And in my opinion this movie really captured the intensity of Puritan lifestyle and how everything they did was to please God. The movie gave u that sense of helplessness and isolation. They touched a little w incest which happened a lot back in the day.. The score is extremely creepy and the fact that they left a lot to the imagination made it even more scary. That’s why The original Alien is considered one of the scariest films of all time cuz you barely saw the alien...the unknown is a scary place. The Witch is definitely one of the top horror films in the last decade. Dark creepy and just made u feel bad afterwards. Now that’s a horror films.
Naw, psychological horror is my favorite genre. I'm not a fan of blood and guts horror. Still didn't like this movie. It had a lot of promise, but it fell incredibly flat. And at the end I just had to laugh.
Does anyone else find cinema sins a good way to speed watch a movie that they haven't got around to seeing yet but can't really be bothered watching?
Eh, only if you trust the CinemaSins dude opinion in all cases. This guy is really funny, and I like his videos, but he's often just totally flat out wrong in his criticisms, such as in this case. This is a really skillfully made, enthralling little movie, and his description/depiction of it is way off-base, his main complaint of 'It's called the Witch but the Witch is barely in it..!' is completely nonsensical, as 'The Witch' is the main character throughout, as only revealed in the end.
I did that for the new Tarzan movie. I'm very glad I didn't spend $4.99 or whatever to rent that crap. Saved me time and money!
Only for rewatching a movie, kinda. You don't want to "watch" a movie the first time through this channel because it's the worst way to ruin it.
Oh but if it comes to money then idk because I torrent every movie for the last like 8 years
Especially scary movies😜
8:25 you just added a sin because the character is unlikable? He’s supposed to be
The rabbit from Holy Grail LIVES! That holy hand grenade did nothing!
I couldn't help thinking of that.
this movie didn't scare me it just felt wrong to watch it ...it felt evil.
That was the point.
hassan khan well time to repent.
Truth B Told then it disturbed you and did it’s job
That’s why it was written that way
Which is what I liked about it. It made me feel dirty and stayed with me for a couple of days.
Though I think he misunderstands the movie and its use of historical accounts of witchcraft, the movie isn't for everyone. It was a well written, well-acted movie. I really enjoyed it personally, but to each their own. (PS- Some of the sins are unfair, but it's a CinemaSins video, I don't imagine it's to be taken too seriously XD)
* I also want to add that it wasn't a 'scary' horror movie. The marketing was wrong to portray it as one. It uses themes of horror, but it itself is not part of the genre in the traditional sense. Horror doesn't have to be scary in the way the The Conjuring was. It portrayed the things that struck fear and 'horror' in people's hearts in that time period. The VVitch is a horror movie in the same way that Oculus and The Babadook were.
That makes quite a bit of sense. The marketing really seems to have betrayed what the creators set out to create. I still haven't seen it in it's entirety, but I'd call that an excellent assessment. Going to see this movie expecting a traditional "horror" type film is a guaranteed disappointment. I had the same problem with "Flight".
I think you misunderstand this channel. These aren't real reviews. His scripts for these shows have intentional misunderstandings and mistakes because it's not meant to be serious
Vincent Beers Regardless of whether he understands it or not(and I'm fairly certain that he does), he is making a very legitimate point about the movie that is worth mentioning. Marketing really blew it when it came to promoting this film. I'm not a box-office watcher, so I have no idea if it affected the money this movie made or the reviews it received(nor do I care), but I know that it is important to note that if you watch this movie expecting a classic "horror" film, you're probably going to be disappointed(as I was).
+Brad Simpson Jeremy intentionally makes mistakes in cinema sins, it's part of the joke along with some legit comments and observations.
Hence my point at the OP of this comment chain, if Jasper thinks Jeremy doesn't understand the movie, then Jasper does not understand this channel.
This video tried really hard to criticize a movie without actually making a valid criticism
Are you new to the channel? He nitpicks all the time and does what you described all the time.
This channel is trash
@@Deathwatch31
You know it's meant to be taken lightly. Getting butt hurt from jokes is unnecessary.
@@Deathwatch31 get out of here, butthurt
@@jonasnathanielbriones7407 trash trash trash trash trash and TRAAAAASH
I first saw this movie in the theater and thought it was boring, unintelligible trash. Then, I watched it again at home WITH subtitles and actually understood the dialogue. I now know it to be one of the best horror movies I've seen in years. Gotta turn on the subtitles tho...they definitely help!
Um no sorry this movie is fanfuckingtastic.
I disagree it was ok imo
I really enjoyed the movie. The Va-Vitch was an entertaining film.
it was so VVoring. seewutididthere
Not really, seeing as it was neither a w or a v at the being of that word. It just makes you a try-hard.
very true, easily my favorite movie to come out in awhile and try something hella unique.
clicked on it just to hear him say something about the v-vitch
Nathan Craft Exactly. I came here to see a comment about that
11:19
Nathan Craft SAME
The twins were being cooked in the fire
I loved that movie. But wouldn’t it be much smarter to try to get up in the demons face and try to defeat it, cause I mean, you’ve got God on your side. I find shit like satanism so stupid, because satan himself literally says he’s the king of hell, where people are burned alive, and when they die they come back to life just to burn again. While (in a religious point of view) God and his followers are always the victorious.
And as far as I know demons are the weakest creatures out there. (All I was tryna say was that the ending was odd)
Finally watched this movie tonight. I thought it was a really cool picture of what 17th century people thought was happening with witches. We hear those stories like "how could they believe that? It is too silly to even be scary." This movie opens a window to that idea. While I was not SCARED, I can imagine how frightened an isolated family or village could be. The isolation and the massiveness of the wilderness would be oppressive.
I didn't go into it looking to like it. I was just trying to kill time seeing if I could find a horror movie that scares me. Witches don't do it for me. But this was a really fascinating window to the 1600s.
it takes 90 to 120 days to grow corn.... not an entire year
I know nothing about modern farming? But in colonial America they would plant practically at the very very beginning of spring and harvest in the fall, yes?
Yea but today not back in the day
benracer not back in the 17th century
Didn't Stephen King say this movie scared the crap outta him?
he is old you know?
Holret Eh, true.
Cj Kalandek it is a deeply disturbing and scary movie tbh
Stephen King isn't even that good of a horror writer, if you're actually invested in the genre. H.P. Lovecraft and Clive Barker are two that come to mind as being better.
Disturbing/creepy? Yes, scary? Not really.
lol i love this novie
Watched “The VVitch” today and remembered there was this video for it. I know the point of these videos is to rile people up while calling films out for their genuine BS but this is the first Sins video I’ve watched where I couldn’t vehemently disagree more.
The problem is you guys believe that he won't sin a good movie lol
@@korykent5645 Untrue. They did Pulp Fiction and The Shining, which were respectful towards the movie, but still managed to point out relevant inaccuracies. This is something different. It's kind of clutching at straws that often aren't even straws.
@@tomread8748 "genuine inaccuracies" was never a hard angle of this channel. You watch it enough and he sins ridiculous things all the time for humor
@@korykent5645 Sinning ridiculous things is fine, and I enjoy how CinemaSins does this for most films they look at, but the things he sins this movie for aren't ridiculous, they're essential parts of the film that are necessary to make it build that feeling of unease and horror. So what if there's no visible vvitch for the majority of the film? The alien in Alien is only onscreen for about 5 minutes tops too, and that's what also makes that movie a horror classic. It harks right back to the theory that it's what you can't see, but what your imagination fills the gaps in for, that's the most scary. And that's sort of what The VVitch does, but then it throws in a crow devouring an old woman's breast or a psychotic, terrifying murderous goat, or something completely weird and wild like that on top, and that covers all the disturbing bases, for me at least. Like others have stated, he often bitches about jump scare trash horror movies being tedious (which I agree with), but when this movie comes along and doesn't follow those usual tropes, his criticisms seem hollow and hypocritical.
This video feels like CinemaSins/Jeremy didn't like the movie for other reasons than he's stating, but is really stretching the truth to find fault with it where there isn't fault to be found.
Hmm, just seen they've done an 'Alien' one too... Will watch that and see if he complains about there being very little alien in it... Just watched it and nope. Not a mention. It was a fun stab at some of the illogical movie logic, which worked for that movie. Sinning The VVitch for needing 6 production companies at the start, for example, is just superfluous and also shows a lack of understanding of how film financing works. It's a factual requirement, so making it a sin isn't valid or funny. It just seems odd and a little spiteful.
@@tomread8748 I found the sinning funny because of tone and choice of words, but yes, the sins show up more of Jeremy's ignorance of history, witchcraft etc. ,than mis-steps of the film. Am I the only one who went 'what???' at the 'pimping out their eldest daughter' comment? It was totally common for young girls to leave their families to go into domestic service those days and that's CLEARLY what the parents are talking about. Agree about the Witch visibility - Thomasin is clearly the witch, and she's there all the time. This is a truly brilliant horror film, even the kids perform wonderfully and authentically, and the symbols of ye olde devilry are perfectly researched.
I want to preface this with the fact that I'm fan of cinemasins, and I enjoy all their content. That said:
I can't believe he's sinning how this movie DIDN"T beat it's viewers over the head with exposition. And he complains that "it takes this movie forever to Witch". No, it doesn't. Thomason is the Witch the movie is about. I'm so glad they didn't have it be some silly Witch villain revenge plot like we've seen a million times, or some kind of horror gorefest of the Witch murdering everyone herself right and left. This movie had character, and understands that horror works best when it's subtle. Such a good movie.
This movie is about how a woman can be enticed to sign the devil's book. The devil made her family crazy and she was the only one to notice, and when they were all done, she gave in and signed the book because he made her desperate. She had nothing. This is folklore about how women become witches. I loved it.
the point is not about how woman become witches
Don’t take it from me
Just from the director
Women ☕☕
@@nerdybacon6244 men 🍼🍼
@@iamthetweet1 Aliens 🍾🍾
@@nerdybacon6244 men 🍼🍼
Before a I start watching, there is nothing wrong with the witch.
Cerberus litter box! No movie is without sin.
Cerberus litter box! What the fuck do you mean this movie was garbage!!!!
Voo Doo The Witch (VVitch?) was an intelligent, truly unsettling horror movie, which is what all movies of the genre should aspire to be. The trailers promised nothing more than what you got so if you went to see this film and didn't like it, maybe have a little more foresight? My point is that is was boring to you because you have no patience or sense enough to examine a film further than its basest layer of content, you were probably expecting jump scares a-plenty to keep you sPoOkeD and what you got was a beautifully shot period piece/horror film from a time when this particular brand of paranoia was common. The Witch(VVitch?) was an outstanding movie, I'm sorry you couldn't see that :(
Doesn't mean that you were bored that the movie was bad.
You had the subjective experience of being bored while a lot of other people praised that film. Including me.
Don't blame the film but try to understand the truths behind your bore.
Because each intelligent and sensible people know to appreciate good films when they're made.
So you liked sitting there trying to understand one of the many scenes where the dialogue was unintelligible? I sure didn't. This movie was not good.
That pretty much sums up Puritan life:
"Something, something Jesus things."
The father has the perfect voice for a dungeon master
He puked up the apple bc he talked about getting apples for his mother when he was in the woods hunting
i found the apple more like a symbol. the apple is also a theme for adam and eva. Since the family were excommunicated, like Adam and Eve, and the son was lustful, this is a symbol that God has left them. this is at least my point of view, no idea whether this is true
I just recently watched this movie and I have to point out something I think you and a lot of audience members missed. Back in those days it was believed that witches would use the blood of un-baptized people to make an ointment that would allow them to levitate. That's why the witch rubs the blood of the baby over her in the beginning. Also, the reason the coven is able to levitate at the end is because they took and killed the twins which ties up the loose end you thought they left at the end of the movie. The bonfire they're dancing around is the twins bodies burning.
Robertrr23 Okay, prove it. You have secret information others don't, or are you just making this up?
Mr. Blue Cherry Thanks for that golden nugget. Now go tell your mom you tried to help.
Mr. Blue Cherry Whatever you say, High School, but out in the real world you need evidence to prove whether something is true or not. I'm not arguing that the witches didn't go up into the air; I'm arguing the WHY. Did you not read the original comment tip which you replied? It assumes all kinds of things that are UNKNOWN to the viewer, so I simply asked how the commenter could KNOW that which was claimed. I am trying to learn- you, however, are arguing without understanding what you are arguing about. So, High School, either explain the "Why?" or stop typing.
mrfuriouser what should we call you? Mr. Elementary?
Mr. Blue Cherry No, I haven't seen hocus pocus, I don't care about witches in the least. My point is, if it isn't in the movie, IT ISN'T IN THE MOVIE. If I need a 101 class in witches to understand it then I really won't care about the movie. The stupid Blair Witch was like that and I HATED IT. I don't care if the stacks of rocks had 13 stones in them...DUMB.
-Wouldst thou like the taste of "I can't believe it's not butter"?
-I beg your pardon. I do not seem to underst...
-Nevermind! Maybe Nutella, then?
“This goes on for some time”- AGHHHHHHHHH IVE NEVER LAUGHED SO HARD IN MY WHOLE LIFE.
Sin: peeping down thy sister's shirt. LMAO
Momof2 Marines SwEEt HoME ALaBamA
@@carlyalexis9682 His sister is the only woman he gets to see. That's a set up for disaster.
That’s a sinnin’
Damn maybe it's a good thing he died then. My guy would've had his sexual awakening to his older sister 😂
I love this film! It maintains a low key, constant feeling of dread with a handful of shocking moments scattered throughout. That's real horror, the kind that gets under your skin and stays with you long after the film is over; not the crap that relies exclusively on jump scares and overly utilities gory violence simply for shock value.
I’m in a hospital and this movie has always stayed on my mind, even after watching it twice. When he said Vvitches I burst out laughing myself 😂
Your closing screens/clips are hysterical!
The dialogue for this movie was IMPOSSIBLE to understand.
+Hamar Fox I don't think IQ and acuity of hearing are related. I mean I guess if you had a high IQ you could actively make educated guesses as to what words the mumbled syllables you were able to catch were most probably supposed to be, but that's made more difficult by unfamiliar accent and dialect and is generally more effort than most people want to put into watching a movie no matter how smart they are.
+Hamar Fox yeah. It's easy to hear that they are speaking words, but it's very difficult to understand what the words being spoken are.
+Android 19 I disagree, in that I think it was easy to understand what they were saying, the only issue was the volume.
But I agree in that understanding them has nothing to do with intellect. I hate when people try to make everything about IQ or intelligence to make themselves feel superior.
+Hamar Fox believe it or not my first language is English, and I know what phrases are used to convey certain meanings. When dialogue is unintelligible due to low volume and/or muttering people do, in fact, say that it was hard to understand. If it's loud enough that they can hear that words are being spoken but not uttered with enough clarity to be understood at that low volume that's the phrase people normally use. Now, it can also mean that they heard the words fine but didn't understand what they meant, sure, but that is not the only possible meaning or even the most likely one in this scenario. You aren't really in a position to make pronouncements about what the OP meant.
+Hamar Fox You know what, I'm not even going to fight you on that. You're wrong, but that doesn't actually matter in this context. What matters is what OP meant by his phrasing. HEY MUSHI! Settle a bet for me, would ya? Mr. Fox here insist that you meant that the words were perfectly audible but you couldn't understand what they meant and that makes you dumb. I say that the far more likely intention was that, in this movie of quiet dialogue and poor enunciation using vocabulary that is relatively easy to process, you had a hard time understanding what was being said because you couldn't make out the words being said.
I keep reading the thumbnail as The VVitch
That's how it's spelled in the movie's title
CheesecakeFury SAME!!!!!!!
CheesecakeFury me too
Because it is, you twonks.
Johnny Kronaz yes, it is literally written like that, but it is implicitly written as a W
Bruh, this is one of the best horror movies ever
After the witche's laughter and the children screaming scene, you can actually hear her footsteps as she charges on the twins and guts them.
subpar??? not at all I thought this was a great modern horror film
Em Bee Exactly. The cinematography and score alone are panic inducing. Loved it.
Em Bee how
Jon Presley again I repeat how
Jon Presley okay yeah the score the cinematography but like everything else is boring and just there
you wont appreciate it if poorly educated
Um, you keep adding sins for the film being called The Witch and us barely seeing the Witch. The Witch from the title is Thomasine, mate.
Thats not till like the end and its a cop out
You must be new to CinemaSins
Vvitch*
Nick Zardiashvili Sinning Cinema Sins
yes it can be intererpreted that way ... leaving it open to interpretation just makes the movie stronger
It's one of the scariest movies recently. Subtle horror, proper use of jumpscares, makes you think. It's tons better than the Nun.
i'm glad he is trying to stay relevant and use comedy and such and it's really enjoyable. but I hate how lazy this whole channel has gotten. remember when they did research and pointed out fine details they got wrong...now its just, idk funny i guess.
don't get mad @ this channel b/c you like shit movies...
I remember this channel having some quality as well, its just washed up gibberish now...
If the dude wants to write comedy, can't he just find a few subjects that are not this desperately grasping at straws?
negative 9 this movie is good, unlike the shit you probably watch usually to satisfy your dumb brain
The twins were burnt in the fire. That is the oinment for the flying
good to know
Subpar? This movie is great. Maybe not the horror movie you were expecting, but it stands on its own merits: great cinematography, subtle psychological writing and gripping understanding of 17th Century religiosity.
Most of your points on the movie make it seem like your didn't understand what happened, or that you want to laugh at things because it makes you look cool. I usually enjoy your nitpicking but this is not really funny. Like when you criticize the banishment of the family for "jesus things". It's implied that the father preached a lifestyle closer to the Bible and he got scolded time and time again, until the council finally was sick of that useless guy patronising and telling them how to live or pray. A very common thing back in the day, "out with you, you're not like us! You wanna be special!" and it plays right into the theme of the movie: to live free you must retire from the center, where normal lives, and live in the fringes, the margins. And these fringes take them closer to one who lives even more in the fringes, even more free: the witch.
The great thing about this movie is that the Witch is the catalyst for the drama, not a slasher monster or the source of drama itself. She kidnaps the baby, and then shit goes downside from there all on its own. Most of the witch's actions can be considered interpretations on natural phenomena or common occurences. The movie chooses to go the route of "yep, the witch is real. Her powers, though, maybe not", but even still you could say that the Witch may not be real, or an actual witch.
Ennio444 I really liked your breakdown but this is a comedy channel. He says funny things because he’s trying to be funny. There are loads of other channels if you want to discuss this movie seriously.
I enjoy EWW for that reason. It’s not meant to be serious and from other comments I’ve seen, people need to chill.
MissKittyFantasm yea I think so too. I laughed my ass off at his video- the movie itself I thought was magnificent! Loved it. It’s scary af but not in your typical slasher type film. 👍🏻
I thought this video was hilarious! And oh my word, I had trouble understanding what they were saying. And I almost NEVER watch horror movies because I'm a scaredy cat, but I didn't really consider this a horror movie- more of a thriller. I do think they did some things right, it was suspenseful at times, but there was a lot of disappointment. They could've cut it down to a much shorter movie and be just as good if not better for not having all those useless scenes in it
@@deimoslyric The scenes were not useless, but it definitely helped if you were familiar with the history and the folklore involved. I thought the film was very tight and every word built upon the tension that grew throughout the film.
WOW you wrote a speech defending this movie Jesus Christ. It's not that good get over it.
bunnies are actually an evil omen of some sort. i found that out while reading like 7 posts explaining “Us” and their use of reoccurring bunnies, because Jordan Peele is so detailed oriented he had chosen bunnies to make the shadow people appear more evil
This episode progressively got worse and worse. You probably shouldn't review this genre and stick with the Michael Bay junk films
Click to edit your name TRIGGERED
@Crazy Sven Okay, but the "stick with Michael Bay films" (or insert any vapid/childish/cruddy film/genre) thing is also kind of a pussy-ish tactic when someone doesn't like something you liked.
So one of the biggest complaints is that a horror film featured horrifying things ?.......that makes total sense. -_-
you're new, aren't you?
No not at all.
Cinema Sins have always nitpicked (thats the point) but this is just stupid its like complaining that a comedy has funny scenes.
More like complaining about fart jokes in a comedy. It works for some but for others it is kind of annoying. And just because someone has different opinions than you doesn't mean you have to give yourself a stick enema.
I'm not saying that other opinions arem't allowed.
Hell if everyone on earth liked the same thing the world would be an incredibly boring place.
It's more about horror movie clichés... there wasn't much that was original in this movie, which doesn't mean it's bad, hence its praise but... when you are used to these cliches, it is kind of annoying.
The baby guts is actually a flying ointment, not to make her young. Flying ointments are made with animal (or I guess in this case human) fat and gave witches the ability to fly.
Fun fact: bunnies or rabbits are wiccans “witches” companions :> that’s why you always see the rabbit.
Is that why Scarlet witch's son is called Wiccan?
"Movie has killed a baby and a dog within the first hour, and yet has generally forgot to witch" fav sin ever. The inflection is chef's kiss
The sins are obnoxiously subjective in this video
guyyouseewhenyoudie I absolutely agree! Frustrating and asinine.
What annoys me the most is how half the sins are about the fact that the "VVitch" isn't prominent enough in the movie, but the plot of the movie is very clearly not actually about the witches. It was a brilliant psychological horror movie but he gives absolutely no credit for these aspects.
Quality is subjective for the most part, so that should be expected. The amount of people who get butt-hurt over someone not agreeing with them is hilarious.
@bacon froyo Have you seen it? The movie is very obviously about the psychological breakdown of the family, which was caused by the witch. The fact that it isn't just about the witch doing fucked up shit to them is why it's so good.
The movie was obnoxiously religious
The double v sin is sort of wrong. On the 123 wtf review, he says that Eggers emailed him that it was used when you ran out of w's by printing presses at the time when the movie takes place. He saw it used on a witch poster and liked it.
Genuinely impressed you knew it was Polish specifically.
+JOSEPH WODARCZYK how is a last name like that pronounced? genuinely curious o.o
Wood are chick
+JOSEPH WODARCZYK should be wood in chick
*Tucker's voice* Bow chicka bow wow.
I'm sure I wouldn't be able to watch a full horror movie because of all the times I look away from these videos alone but that will never stop me from watching these videos
Overzealous murder goat. I love this line so much.
My only regret is that I have few opportunities to use it in daily life.
I don't understand why he is complaining so much about lack of witches. The title "The Witch" refers to Thomasin's build up and (SPOILER) eventual transformation into a witch. It's not at all supposed to be a focus on the coven of witches that is haunting the family. It's a horror movie but also a critique on what religion does to people, as in its own sinful hypocrisy. The father lies, the brother lusts, and the mother is proud. Thomasin is the only one who stays pure by the end, but by then she gives in to what she wants in life, rather then what her god does.
Ijustwastedyourtime0 Your explanation was interesting, but don’t treat this like every religious person is doing shit like this. That’s just rude.
the comment was about hypocrisy, dude, chill.
It is funny how movies that are said to be a critique of religion often feature no hard clue to religion in them. Or is there any out-spoken christian conflict or dilemma in this movie? Any theological debate or rule that is being confronted? Nope. The movie is not about christianity and what religious belief does to people. If at all it is about what non-religious people that have no idea of religion or how it works think what religion might do but without really caring enough to actually getting involved with religion in the movie itself.
nice but i don´t think it criticizes religion, i think it criticizes the hypocrisy
Which hypocrisy?
I thought this was a quality, original horror film.
I absolutely agree Ghost Face.
it is, just take a look at the top comments on this video and read what knowledgeable people thinks
Ghost Face I agree. Its such a good film. Cinemasins is always moaning about unoriginal, crap, Hollywood, jumpscare-type films and this is the exact opposite of that. Its a British film with northern accents so you can't expect the majority of Americans to get it or even understand what they are saying.
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More like I couldn't hear anything even with the volume all the way up. I understand the source material, and even if I enjoy the source, it was still dull to me personally. Like understanding that the apple represented the first sin, but also the boy's desire to find the apple tree. But it was still, bland? Also CinemaSins is a show to be satirical, why should it matter if he looked all the information. He throws in random sins here and there, but to regular people who just wanted to see the movie without any prior knowledge tend to look at the stuff happening in it like he does.
Taylor Schiefelbein How was the volume quiet? I didn't have a problem hearing it. Either your TV is broken, your hearing is a little off or you really just don't understand Leeds accents. I'm guessing the last one because you use Americanisms in your writing. It's fine though, I struggle to understand a lot of what is being said by your southerners, the ones who use "y'all" and "ain't" every other word.
i found this one actually pretty good
there was actually plausible scary stuff happening(apart from the witchcraft that was just handled stupidly) as opposed to almost any other horror movie just having bad manufactured tension that is nothing but a build up for a jumpscare
The V-Vitch 😂😂😂 I love this channel man
Actually, this movie illustrates well what witchcraft belief looked like in that era. As a student in anthropology who read a lot about witchcraft both in 17th century Europe, and modern Africa, I found this movie well done. But if watched without knowledge in that domain, I suppose it's confusing at best, for some.
hey can you suggest me some books about this theme please
My nephew bought an old witchcraft book and holy crap they would accuse you of being a witch for almost anything back then. Evidence be damned. All they needed was an accuser. So glad due process has progressed leaps since then.
Ironically I kind of want to watch this movie now. I'm always into fucked up religious shit in movies.
Watch it alone at night. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Yes, you will need subtitles. Don't take it too seriously, as many of the commentators here seemed to.
So is this movie really quiet then gets really loud or just quiet most of the time?
BigBlackClocks The dialogue was a bit quite, which was compounded by the accents/old english.
Cole Hunter Oh okay.
BigBlackClocks Most of it was quiet and then the soundtrack was loud enough that I covered my ears and still almost went deaf. Also the soundtrack is just screeching.
You're not wrong about any of it, but I still loved this movie.
Also, "torn apart by vverevvolves" killed me.
“Witch lures Caleb in by assuming he’s a boob man” 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I liked the movie and the artsy manner in which it depicted horror and made me feel uncomfortable.
That being said, holy shit Ralph Ineson has a deep voice! I got scared just from hearing him speak
“Subpar horror movie”. I feel like Jeremy didn’t actually watch this one.
Yeah I get that sense as well...
jeremy doesn’t watch anything. he points things out in the screen, and counts them as sins.
Jeremy actually has awful taste in movies. The only movies he seems to like are the ones that show a lot of hot girls' cleavage. I wish they'd just fire this guy and hire a writer with more than 3 brain cells.
Saw this movie in theaters and everyone in the place including my friend and I gave some version of "WTF. That was it?!" at the end.
@@marce.t8732 Yea? You and all the 14 year old girls who see horror movies in theaters weren't impressed? Tell me more. Why not go applaud Captain America's entrance in another Marvel movie mate?
Sin: Naming the main character ThomaSIN is one step away from naming a female villain EVILynn.
Also, the apple symbolism is a bit on the nose.
Thanks for saving me 2 hours of my life. I can't stand maxxing out the volume just to struggle to understand the breathy whispers they call dialogue.
I have seen this movie in actual world premiere in film festival with director interview, year before release and...HOLY SHIT, that atmosphere in cinema (huge one, main hall with almost 1000 seats) was amazing. It's not horror in common sense (even director, who was very, very nice and polite guy, said that), it's more like really tense drama. Also, they studied shitload of materials about witches (he actually bring copies of that material, although I couldn't understand anything, they seemed pretty legit) and every animal in this movie (besides dog) was in some connection with witches. There were multiple narrations about 7 sins, original sin and he also noted that if you forget witches (yeah, it looks hilarious), the whole story can be real due to bad food, isolation etc. Also, he was very, very young. For me, the best movie of the festival, hands down. Yes, it has it's flaws (subtitles are the must), but over all, pretty good movie