I clicked on this video for info on insulated foam apps, but I was very amazed by the funny antics as you worked. Thanks for sharing that with us, and proving that you can work and play at the same time. :)LOL
I was kind of somberly going through these videos and then this auto-played. Awesome. I wish my crew was as funny as yours. You guys can make a guitar out of anything. ..Unless it's a 6' level: which is clearly a bass, of course.
Wow seriously I can’t believe the people making comments about you guys having fun and working too!! Get a freaking life! You should play and work and enjoy your life. If we didn’t laugh and have fun when we work we wouldn’t want to come to work! Life is too short not to enjoy your work. Great job doing both!!
My OCD noticed the one piece he cut and laid up side down and couldn't watch anymore. I know it doesn't matter but it makes things look more professional. Plus you took all day to lay what ? 50 sheets of foam with three guys? Your fired. I can't afford to pay you guys hourly that's for sure.
In the video, the insulation was put on top of the vapor barrier. I was told that's not correct. The process steps involve compacted dirt, then 3/4 stone compacted, then insulation, then 6-10 mil vapor barrier, and then concrete (with fiberglass or metal wire). You want the weight of the concrete pushing down on the vapor barrier holding the insulation in place. With your method, there is the risk that some insulation could rise up through the concrete.
Indeed. Foil reflects radiant heat but does nothing to slow conductive heat transfer. It is simply amazing how many slabs still get poured on bubble foil. If you can't insulate the slab properly then don't put heat into it!
Foil bubble insulation is useless. The only thing that insulates is insulation. I promise. As a home builder in MN for over a decade, I have decommissioned in-floor heating systems 10 times. The heating cost was many times what was projected. They all had either no insulation or that damn double bubble foil stuff. We retrofitted baseboard heaters and cut their heating bill by more than half. The ground is an infinite heat sink. Put as much rigid foam in as you can afford. Good Luck.
100% Wong. The ground is not an "infinite heat sink". And a properly designed slab heat, will allow you to run a very low temperature water, reducing heating costs by a significant amount. As for insulation under the slab, it's simple not needed. As long as the perimeter is insulated below the frost line, the ground will not remove heat, only store heat. It's in every load calc software and formula created! It's physics and proven. I do hvacr design and build for a living, for nearly 40yrs. Yes, foil bubble is useless, and 25psi or greater rigid foam is the best way to go, but ONLY for the perimeter.
Get these guys some light sabers and a disco ball please! Is there a vinyl siding,drywall,roofing, or painting vid of these same guys? I've been surfing energy efficiency vids for 10 hours. Though silent this was entertaining and informative.
You can it's better to walk on it without shoes from what I've seen. You can still puncture it if you're not walking gently but it's pretty rigid stuff
Can you install flooring on top? Would the foam get crushed under the weight of people walking on top? I need to insulate the floor of my cabin and I'm trying to figure out the best way. Thanks
Those that do the vapor barrier over the insulation ARE asking for trouble and added costs down the road when the foam starts to deteriorate and floor starts to show signs of failure.
I'm doing my basement slab and I'll be installing radiant heat. Is it necessary to put the foam insulation if I'm putting the foil bubble insulation under the slab?
And then you'd install the flooring on top? Wouldn't the foam get crushed under the weight of people walking on top? I need to insulate the floor of my cabin and I'm trying to figure out the best way. Thanks
so why not put the foam on top of the concrete where it will prevent the need to heat and cool it? the foam is so sturdy and plywood on top of it would make it just a firm as plywood on concrete
+Joshua Dyck Foamular rigid insulation has high compressive strengths - available in 40, 60 and 100psi sheets. By installing a concrete slab over this insulation, you further spread out concentrated loads (such as the feet on a refrigerator or bed) and so there's no deformation.
Wouldn't you want the vapor barrier under the foam to prevent ground water from contacting the foam, or is it more for water vapor condensing between a cold surface and a warm one? Vapor barrier for walls typically faces inward, so following that logic, it makes sense to have the barrier on top of the foam, like you said. Can you elaborate?
If you tape the seams of the foam board and place a barrier over top, won't the tape deteriorate over time due to ground moisture? Or is this a non-issue?
Mark, They 100% did it the right way. By doing it your way, the moisture could get up and into the foam. The vapor barrier being against the sand, etc first will stop it.
The way I see it. The poly was layed out first to prevent radon gas from seeping through the taped joints. Nothing to do with water vapour. Radon gas is second leading cause of lung cancer.
On walls the vapor barrier goes on the inside, tyvek or similar brand breathable water repelling barrier is placed on the outside of the exterior wall. and despite what folks like you think the vapor barrier on a slab on ground goes under the insulation as shown as the foam is not entirely mold or water resistant. Every time I see someone showing themselves installing as said with folks like you also assume are just asking for water and foundation issues.
Can I install flooring on top instead of concrete? Would the foam get crushed under the weight of people walking on top? I need to insulate the floor of my cabin and I'm trying to figure out the best way. Thanks
Hey, what was the floor finish ? Timber flooring ? The black plastic is ? >>> Damp Proofing ? What is under it ? >>> Concrete slab BTW Google+ absolutely sucks don't know how long it has been out but this is my first comment since, just got it working. 12th October 2014. Stupid! Cookies.
the plastic is a moisture barrier and goes over the aggregate base layer to protect the foam and then the concrete slab.goes over it, the foam is more than plenty strong at minimum 40 psi compressive resistance.
XPS or Extruded Polystyrene, not the same as EPS or Expanded polystyrene which offer a much better insulation value and bond to concrete and less costly than XPS with its lower R or U insulation value.
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Why do people "thumbs down" these guys? They obviously do good work, together as a team, and have fun doing it. "Outstandable!"
I clicked on this video for info on insulated foam apps, but I was very amazed by the funny antics as you worked. Thanks for sharing that with us, and proving that you can work and play at the same time. :)LOL
I was kind of somberly going through these videos and then this auto-played. Awesome. I wish my crew was as funny as yours. You guys can make a guitar out of anything. ..Unless it's a 6' level: which is clearly a bass, of course.
Despite all the play time you finished the job in amazing time. You're hired.
Wow seriously I can’t believe the people making comments about you guys having fun and working too!! Get a freaking life! You should play and work and enjoy your life. If we didn’t laugh and have fun when we work we wouldn’t want to come to work! Life is too short not to enjoy your work. Great job doing both!!
Camera + men = antics. Good work on the install.
The best thing since sliced bread! Too funny. Will bookmark this just for the laughs!
You guys are having way too much fun. This is supposed to be work!
🎰they are too funny and they got the job done too. Loved it.
I think this crew built my house! Very funny.
My OCD noticed the one piece he cut and laid up side down and couldn't watch anymore. I know it doesn't matter but it makes things look more professional. Plus you took all day to lay what ? 50 sheets of foam with three guys? Your fired. I can't afford to pay you guys hourly that's for sure.
You guys are very funny! Love it!
at least they are enjoying their jobs, kind of people i like working with.
In the video, the insulation was put on top of the vapor barrier. I was told that's not correct. The process steps involve compacted dirt, then 3/4 stone compacted, then insulation, then 6-10 mil vapor barrier, and then concrete (with fiberglass or metal wire). You want the weight of the concrete pushing down on the vapor barrier holding the insulation in place. With your method, there is the risk that some insulation could rise up through the concrete.
You guys killed me..stay working together 4ever..you guys rock.
Indeed. Foil reflects radiant heat but does nothing to slow conductive heat transfer. It is simply amazing how many slabs still get poured on bubble foil. If you can't insulate the slab properly then don't put heat into it!
Bubble foil biggest waste of money and a total scam.
Foil bubble insulation is useless. The only thing that insulates is insulation. I promise. As a home builder in MN for over a decade, I have decommissioned in-floor heating systems 10 times. The heating cost was many times what was projected. They all had either no insulation or that damn double bubble foil stuff. We retrofitted baseboard heaters and cut their heating bill by more than half. The ground is an infinite heat sink. Put as much rigid foam in as you can afford. Good Luck.
Baseboards lmao
100% Wong. The ground is not an "infinite heat sink". And a properly designed slab heat, will allow you to run a very low temperature water, reducing heating costs by a significant amount. As for insulation under the slab, it's simple not needed. As long as the perimeter is insulated below the frost line, the ground will not remove heat, only store heat. It's in every load calc software and formula created! It's physics and proven. I do hvacr design and build for a living, for nearly 40yrs. Yes, foil bubble is useless, and 25psi or greater rigid foam is the best way to go, but ONLY for the perimeter.
you guys brought laughter to my day! thank you
2Cor5:21
Love the dance moves.
way, way, way cool! :) I was totally entertained!!! Keep up the good 'work'!
hmm funny dudes. Happy work.
What kind of tape did you use?
Get these guys some light sabers and a disco ball please! Is there a vinyl siding,drywall,roofing, or painting vid of these same guys? I've been surfing energy efficiency vids for 10 hours. Though silent this was entertaining and informative.
I laughed my nuts loose! Too funny and thank you for the gut buster.
You can walk on foam board insulation? I didn’t know this! This will make my life so much easier !
You can it's better to walk on it without shoes from what I've seen. You can still puncture it if you're not walking gently but it's pretty rigid stuff
Can you install flooring on top? Would the foam get crushed under the weight of people walking on top? I need to insulate the floor of my cabin and I'm trying to figure out the best way. Thanks
Damn, I needed a good laugh! Made a boring task look fun!
Does it take compressive strength or do we need to add reinforcement, am interested to know what happened next.
It's like watching the SIMS do construction...
I can't believe I just wasted 9 min of my life watching 3 yahoos install foam board!
W.A. Bruce NBA'de
Stopped at 3 min. Thanks.
The best part was watching them dance lol If you hate that than you suck as a person.
Hopefully you killed two birds with one stone and were taking a crap at the time ( 5 crapping years ago ) .
Yeh...I know what you mean. Trouble is I am sure I watched it before once as well....that is twice = 18 minutes of my life!
What a bunch of clowns... I loved it!
Then you pour on top of the insulation? I assume with rebar and rebar risers?
These guys are idiots lol! I love it! I would hire them in a minute! If you can't have fun while you work then what is life anyway?
Omg! Awesome 👏 😆👍
Best construction video ever :)
Was not expecting that. Funny stuff!!!!
Doesn't the vapor barrier go on top of the rigid insulation?
Nope, you need to stop the moisture as close to the bottom as possible, in this case was sand or compacted crushed stone.
Those that do the vapor barrier over the insulation ARE asking for trouble and added costs down the road when the foam starts to deteriorate and floor starts to show signs of failure.
need add subfloor for laminate or directly put laminate on it?
I'm doing my basement slab and I'll be installing radiant heat. Is it necessary to put the foam insulation if I'm putting the foil bubble insulation under the slab?
Foil bubble is total scam, completely useless waste of money for idiots who think it works.
I may need to do this to my basement.
And then you'd install the flooring on top? Wouldn't the foam get crushed under the weight of people walking on top? I need to insulate the floor of my cabin and I'm trying to figure out the best way. Thanks
so why not put the foam on top of the concrete where it will prevent the need to heat and cool it? the foam is so sturdy and plywood on top of it would make it just a firm as plywood on concrete
So awsome!!! Made me laugh a few times!
lovin the moves boys
I think the ease part was in min 2:42 ..great Ritual .
Can you explain to me what goes on top of the insulated floor panels? Over time wont they crush down a bit?
+Joshua Dyck Foamular rigid insulation has high compressive strengths - available in 40, 60 and 100psi sheets. By installing a concrete slab over this insulation, you further spread out concentrated loads (such as the feet on a refrigerator or bed) and so there's no deformation.
Having fun while working
love these guys good job...
whatever ur jobs just enjoy...😁😁😁
I want to be on this crew
basileaux
awesome video
what you do after you put the foam
What seam tape did you guys use?
I love the 1:29 mark lol.
I want to know what song they were listening to!
very funny, gotta have a laugh at work eh!
So are these guys showing how best to have wet insulation? Vapor barriers always go over foam and under concrete. well, apparently not always.
Wouldn't you want the vapor barrier under the foam to prevent ground water from contacting the foam, or is it more for water vapor condensing between a cold surface and a warm one? Vapor barrier for walls typically faces inward, so following that logic, it makes sense to have the barrier on top of the foam, like you said. Can you elaborate?
If you tape the seams of the foam board and place a barrier over top, won't the tape deteriorate over time due to ground moisture? Or is this a non-issue?
Mark, They 100% did it the right way. By doing it your way, the moisture could get up and into the foam. The vapor barrier being against the sand, etc first will stop it.
The same rules apply here, like for a warm roof. Now that may change in certain situations
The way I see it. The poly was layed out first to prevent radon gas from seeping through the taped joints. Nothing to do with water vapour. Radon gas is second leading cause of lung cancer.
What do you put over this? Plywood? or can you just put a floating floor in?
concrete.
august no way, concrete! I would like to know seriously
les charlottes go foamy (nice title for one of their movies,ain''t it?
what's under the black tarp? tampered limestone?
Sand, crushed stone, etc.
I laughed then I cried when I saw that I need 63 sheets of polystyrene @ $40 a sheet!
XPS is more per sheet seeing as its extruded and not expanded with steam like EPS. Plus EPS has a much better bond to the concrete than smooth XPS
Old styles of workmanship were ... different.
Hope you guys sealed all them seams with more that duct tape unless your in the desert
Hey fellas just so you know....the vapor barrier sheet always goes on last before the concrete. That foam is supposed to be under it.
Wrong, by a long shot.
On walls the vapor barrier goes on the inside, tyvek or similar brand breathable water repelling barrier is placed on the outside of the exterior wall. and despite what folks like you think the vapor barrier on a slab on ground goes under the insulation as shown as the foam is not entirely mold or water resistant. Every time I see someone showing themselves installing as said with folks like you also assume are just asking for water and foundation issues.
no don't look like you're having fun otherwise they won't pay you as much
Not insulating UNDER the slab?
Dude, that's what they are doing !!!
Where is the boss?? He or she would not like all the monkeying around. But you guys are funny.
plastic sheeting on top of foam would guarantee foam would not float up during pour.
I had to rewind after I first noticed
+Thee Kim I loled for realsies
Did you all learn your trade from Charlie Chaplin?
stop drop and roll!!! lol
We laid plastic, then foam, then the radiant guys came in, then the slab was poured.
Can I install flooring on top instead of concrete? Would the foam get crushed under the weight of people walking on top? I need to insulate the floor of my cabin and I'm trying to figure out the best way. Thanks
0:24 !!LOL
Where is the radiant heat tubes for heating the slab concrete floor? best way.
Apparently you missed the notes under the video...."We have to install 150 sheets total of 2" XPS foam so the radiant guys can come in and set up."
Hey, what was the floor finish ? Timber flooring ?
The black plastic is ? >>> Damp Proofing ? What is under it ? >>> Concrete slab
BTW Google+ absolutely sucks don't know how long it has been out but this is my first comment since, just got it working. 12th October 2014. Stupid! Cookies.
the plastic is a moisture barrier and goes over the aggregate base layer to protect the foam and then the concrete slab.goes over it, the foam is more than plenty strong at minimum 40 psi compressive resistance.
5:55 HELP ME I'M ON FIRE!!!!
obviously there are no termite's in this part of the world
Apparently they are not paid by the hour
Awesome
"R" - Классно и весело!!! +
Plz tell me proper name of sheets
XPS or Extruded Polystyrene, not the same as EPS or Expanded polystyrene which offer a much better insulation value and bond to concrete and less costly than XPS with its lower R or U insulation value.
Sawzall on foam board lol.
XPS is easier and less mess when cutting compared to EPS which has a higher insulation value, bonds better to concrete and cost less.
paid by the hour I bet
1:30 LOL
Dream Team 😂😂😂
Seriously, how much time was wasted dancing and screwing around?
About 2 1/2 minutes. Lighten up Francis !!
And the 2:40 mark. lol
funny workers.
the crazy shit they do... lmao
Funny workers...The best part is not shown? Pouring the concrete slab over that shit.
+mrpearl1 Yeah, that's what I was waiting for.
6:32 lol!
MIN 5:50 FUNNY HAHAHAHAHA
Como os vea el cabron del jefe movida,saludos de Jose desde spain
I wanna dance
Fandabidosi
funny :) at 5:54
crazy peoples
lmao @2:39 - 2:50
BOZZOS
=))=)) you are funny
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plus lurn tew speel nut tyme
translation, LEARN TO FRICKEN SPELL.
LOL 1:30