NIU NGT Electric Scooter Review - Lessons Learned
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- Опубліковано 17 чер 2024
- NIU NGT Electric Scooter Review - Lessons Learned: Having ridden the funky little NIU NGT for a couple of weeks it's time for me to sum up my findings on this electric scooter - the lessons learned, both good and bad...stay tuned!
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Another one review Andy.
Thanks so much for this year’s entertainment. Excellent work.
Merry Christmas and happy new year to you and your family.
...thank you and to you Cap'n
@@TheMissendenFlyer I want scooter box Christmas with john Lenzy lee Curtis from me please?
Great videos on this bike, I really fancy one of these for town riding. I can see me buying one in the next few years.
Also, thank you for a year of fantastic high quality content. Really enjoyed your videos which never disappoint - looking forward to 2020!
Thank you Michael - merry Christmas!
Well, as it turns out 2020 wasn't that great. 2021 wasn't much better... Sodding COVID!
Good review mate. Thanks for all the entertainment over the last year. 👍🏻
Love the whizzing round the garden 🤣
It must be Christmas, a TMF video every day! Thanks!
Sure is - stops after tomorrow's vid I'm afraid!
Thanks for this video. Very informative.
Not my cup of coffee but I can imagine a good market around college towns. Thorough review as usual. 👍🏼 😎
What an interesting machine ... ! And with that read brake, you can easily drift through steep turns. Thanks for the review! :) Cheers
Thanks for putting the info of checking to make sure your insurance covers it! I was looking at one of these nearby for me, but now I'll double check with my insurance.
The turning circle test was amazing 👌🏼
Glad you liked it!
"If you're interested in this machine keep watching" , I was but I'm not any longer. I would be interested as to Mrs TMF' s reaction to you charging the batteries on the island unit!
On the granite worktop!!! Angel cake wasn't at home?
If the back brake is on the left bar you're probably pulling it like a clutch and not with the same finesse you do with your right hand on a front brake. An example of this is in a car, in a safe place like a car park, try using the brake with your left foot and you'll find your face is on the windscreen unless you're really, really thinking about what you're doing.
I think TMF understands braking.
It's always a good idea to test the limits of braking in a straight line. That way you know what to expect in an emergency situation.
Great review, TMF as usual
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
That looks like a great scooter from a maintenance standpoint. Being able to take the battery indoors would be great for a student and a great anti-theft strategy too.
Very minimal maintenance on these, mainly tyres and brakes being the main
@সত্যের পথের পথিক Sir, If you mean the battery compartment. I can only guess that it is waterproof.
It would be nice if someone made a detachable front or rear basket for it, for grocery shopping.
Good video, thanks.
As of March 2022, it looks like there is a new version (same name) with a 4.6kW motor, coming in the standard or extended range options (different size batteries).
From the pictures it looks to me like the batteries may have been moved under the central foot platform, so this will give more space under the seat for storage.
The batteries staying unchanged may explain a slight decrease in range.
Price wise, the standard range seems in touch with what was mentioned in the video with the extended range battery option adding an extra £700 (tipping the price over £4000) for an extra 10 miles or range, which seems a lot, but it may be a case of having to pay for it if you want power and range.
I would say this moped would be overkill for going about town on 30 mph roads, but would be ideal for a semi-rural commute or if there is a need to pop on the dual-carriageway or motorway.
Also worth a mention is the MGT Evo, with 5kW motor for around the same price as the NGT extended range option. Slightly less range, but more power. However, the picture looks like the batteries are still under the seat in that model as the foot platform doesn't look thick enough to take them.
I dont see that silent running is a negative, plenty of cyclists cant be heard, you cant hear pedestrians running across the pavement. Silence is GOLDEN!
no it isnt, its very dangerous in the city!, these things sneakup on you at 3 times the speed of a cyclist!,
@@SDeww Bullshit. Complete over analysis. No worse than any EV. I drive an EV, it's silent, people still notice it. Yeah, there'll be a few incidents, but, as ever, it'll be a tiny fraction of the total journeys covered. It wont stop the reactionary crowd complaining, but some people will always hate change and rebel against progress. Thankfully, they can be ignored
I actually see silent running as posetive, means you can ride in the night without having to worry that you will annoy the neighbours
@@Nefus1988 Very true! Didnt think of that oen
@@markmywords312 trust me, sound helps a lot
Try Lexham or Bennetts for Insurance. I got my Zero DS insured through Lexham. I do agree that new bikes (and especially new types of bikes) are hard to insure until they are on the system. In addition, if you are taking your A1 test on an electric, call well in advance because if it isn't on the DVLA test list, you're not going to be allowed to sit the Module 1 on it until it is.
What a great bit of kit. If I had a computer bike this would be it 👍
as for range, yes you can do touring on it, if you plan sensibly and aren't in a rush. although in long-distance driving situations, it's advisable to get a few extra batteries (2 at least) and a few bike upgrades (storage for extra batteries, solar charger, ...); also keep in mind that you'll only be allowed to "take the scenic route" and not go on "highways" (requiring a speed of >50mph - in the US), but on the upside this might translate to a shorter route and longer range (if using EBS).
That indicator noise would be a godsend to me, and I suspect millions of others, too!
The ones that felix uses sounds like a clown horn
Haha! I have one of those in Beijing! Love it! You can change the sound for the indicator. Think there’s about 6 sounds to choose from. Forget how many exactly.
Do those side panels open? It seems there is a lot of space since there is no engine.
Jay Littleton no they don’t 😕
You can change the indicator sound. "Press and hold" to change it. It has quite a few options you can choose from.
exactly, shows that this YTer doesn't really do any research
Good review, about the indicator, the sound can be Changed, the niu has around 10 sounds to chose from. Some really strange some really simple. There is a normal Blinking sound available
davy1010 how exactly do you change the sound of the indicators? I saw a video saying you can but I wasn’t able to when I tried
Side note: I believe they were required to make the blinkers audible because the vehicle is silent, so pedestrians are aware of it’s presence.
@@craigcampbell1843 Switch the indicator to the right for 2 flashes, then switch to the left for 2 flashes.
Then keep switching like this between right and left. You'll hear all the different sounds.
When you hear the sound you want you can just stop switching and the selected sound will be set.
This UA-cam video shows how to easily change the sound. It's in German but it can help to visualise how to proceed. ua-cam.com/video/wQ0Y5BJTcBM/v-deo.html
What's a blinking sound?
davy1010 I changed the sound of my indicators. Now my dash randomly changes to rainbow. Do you know how to keep it all black and white all the time?
@@craigcampbell1843 if i am not mistaken there is no such feature. The colors are normal they should represent An indication about your charge status and driving. If the colors are reacting strange i would unplug both batteries for a couple of minutes and plug them back in
Presumably with removable batteries, you can buy spares and alternate them so you can be charging while using the others?
You can take out the back battery. It has another battery underneath your feet
The original Vespa scooter had no underseat storage space, fit a top box. Great commuter at a good price.
Andy you have been watching itchy boots too much, lots of super cools and let’s go, great little town tool this one, nice loud air horn, or maybe squeeze bulb(saves battery); a TMF calendar for next year? Have a good one and all the best for New Year, meet you in Tyndrum?
Yeah I might have been - can I have a big thumbs up and subscribe down below...
Yes insurance was an issue when I was considering the BMW electric scooter. My usual broker (IAM Surety) wouldn’t do it at the time.
Electricute Your Commute With This Scoot. Pro's Way Outweigh Cons. Excellent Price As Well.
Thanks For All The Extra Content This Christmas. It's Made It Extra Special.
GooD Luck In 2020.
Thank you and the same to you!
I bought the same niu scooter, very pleased of it and you won't find a cheaper scooter for his great quality
A great review, as ever. Seasons greetings to you. I like the way that you show (5.58) the two cars that have jumped the lights and blocked the pedestrian crossing! (LOL).
Price to value seems excellent. Pity about the storage - must be some saddle bags or something available. Seems perfect for jaunts around town in crowded urban environment.
I hope it's available in Australia soon.
Great review, quick question. If you remove batteries for charging and close the seat, as there will be no power how do you open it again? Is there a key?
you will have max speed of 45 km/h and half of the range, which is plenty for city commutes
Another great video, just thought it a bit ironic to be sponsored by Bennetts but have a problem getting insurance :-)
Me too!
I especially enjoyed the commercial page audio...
Did you suffer the wraith of Mrs F for using the kitchen worktop to charge the battery? :) .. I've enjoyed your vids this year and look forward to your offerings in 2020 .. Merry Christmas to your good self and your family and I wish you many more utube milestones for next year ..
I’m always suffering at the hands of Mrs F - thanks for your support Graham, Merry Christmas to you and yours!
The good lady was probably out at time of filming!
Of course she was .. otherwise Mr F would have received another slap on the head :)
I got hold of a Luqi from China. Struggled to find insurance, even though registering with DVLA was no problem.
Eventually found Bikesure willing to offer cover. Hopefully more companies will come on board as these things become mainstream.
maybe I should try bike sure too these other insurance companies are crooks
I can’t believe I didn’t see this review earlier (as a subscriber). I ride scooters or low-capacity motorcycles (similar to Honda Cubs) in Vietnam (VN). I’m trying to get hold of a Vinfast Klara to review. It’s similar to the NIU but about 1/3 the price. Insurance is practically nothing in VN but electricity is about the same as the UK (I pay £0.17 per kw).
In my 40 odd years of biking I have to confess of only ever riding a scooter on two occaisions ,the first was a little Puch 50 which made the FS1E I had as a 16 year old seem like a superbike in comparison, the second one was a totally different story, at the time I'd an Aprilia RS250 which I'd left in the dealers for its first service so they offered me a little 125 two stroke scooter to get me to work, my thoughts before even seeing it were negative but it proved me wrong in a big way, its acceleration was great and favourable with most of the 250 commuter bikes available at the time, so I'd never try to put anyone of getting a scooter as a commuter but I would reccomend something bigger than a 50, as something with the power of a 125 or its electric equivalent can be fun as well as functional.
Good review.
The indicator noise is annoying, however it is the way people can hear you when you are turning into a street, great in town.
Storage I have sorted it with a box at the back
Insurance I manage to get one online from Lexham for 260, they quoted me 400 over the phone.. I have 4 years no claims
As I mentioned on the previous review, SHAD make a rack for these so you can have whatever you like on the back, NIU also make one but it's quite small. I've owned two different NIU scooters, one insured with MCE and the other with Bikesure. You can purchase extra batteries or just an extra charger to keep at work which would be lots cheaper!
I love them! Correct me if I’m wrong Aren’t you supposed to break with both at the same time any way? Great review. I’ve never seen anyone mention or look into insurance 🤔 Well done
They should update the next version with combi break system where 30%70% each time you break either front or rear
@@Balanceunlimitedinfinite I'm doing some courier work and ride one every day, the rear (left lever) is linked with the front brake but the front brake ( left lever) is independent. not sure what exact model it is though.
Errrrmmm. No! Have a great Christmas & New Year at Missenden Manor and tell MrsF not to get caught kissing Santa under the Mistletoe this year! 😉😉🎅👍
Wow. Literally first time I ever hear someone praising an app!!
Really interesting review & summary. They're about 2.5k where I live, but still twice the price of a Honda Wave 125i.
Something for the future, definitely.
don't forget to calc the fuel and servicing over a 50,000 mile period and the figures usually make far more sense in favour of the EV not to mention the emissions you will not have to cure / suppress the symptoms of having breathed in later in life
@@JohnC-iv8jo All true, but it'll be the next-gen battery tech that will truly make all electric vehicles mainstream. My current car can do over 800kms on a tank and my biggest bike has an all-day (ish) range. When electric vehicles better ICE vehicles in range, that's when they make real sense to most people as well as becoming possibly more affordable than current vehicles.
With better design they could have both batteries under floor? Insurance a problem with new models & newer manufacturers! Usually the retailer will have linked with 1 or 2 insurance companies? Always love your openness to testing every flavour of bike 👍 Merry Christmas 🎄
...and to you!
LO Andy, re storage you can run the scoot on the floor battery alone obviously halving your range but creating storage !!
Hi, What's the blue key hole for under the seat?
as for the skidding on the rear wheel, this might be a thing of the past: "CBS BRAKING SYSTEM - When you brake in an emergency, the CBS braking system will split braking force between the front and rear brake discs, reducing stopping distance and ensuring a safe brake at high speeds." (from the NIU site, NQI-GT page).
Shad do sell a rack for this, so at least you could add a small top case for your helmet
You never mentioned the top speed. Do you have a motorcycle license? I am after a scouter that does around 60mph, seen a few I really like. I have grandfathers right been driving for over 40 yrs. how does it work at what type of E-scooter I can I have, I know I can have a 125 motor bike( well I think I can ) I am after a Soco CPX . Great video easy listening very informative thanks . Ray K UK YNWA.
I do have a motorcycle licence - I'm not sure what the situation is with this one if you don't....sorry!
Back break should only do about 25% of the braking power. You should use both for stability.
Why not a light for the indicators, I would kill that noise.
A scooter without store under the seat is useless; that’s why you ride a scooter in town and for commuting.
Modern batteries prefer to be loaded, so charge them when possible.
Maybe I'm just immature but being able to do wee back wheel skids is a bonus to me😂Anyway Happy Christmas and looking forward to next years channel content
I’m from wales and love in China,got the NIU sport,the sport will do 35 mph top speed,but this one as one battery not two,good review tho mate,in China you just use the side road and no need for insurance or tax like uk,if I lived back in uk,I wouldn’t even bother.
Scooter Electrico. Just boughted an Super Soco VS1 (E-Max). Same running gear and overall performance as the Super Soco CPX at less expense and the expense of a pillion seat. Seems quite rare other than in China & South America/Brasil, where you can rent one and benefit from drive in battery exchanges. More on this story, later. Enjoy your channel, ride safe.
Being able to remove the battery must be the ultimate theft deterrent.
Motorbike thief would be changed into a Cart thief .
You would have to remove both for it to stop running altogether though (I own this bike and thought the same initially, but a lot more work to remove the batteries than just putting a big chain on it). Luckily the app pings you if you so much as wobble it!
EllieOfLondon Considering getting this bike (I work for Deliveroo in Amsterdam - a notorious scooter/bikethiefland) HOW SECURE ARE THE ANTI THEFT MEASURES. People at the local NIU store assure me it would not get stolen even without chain just staring outside my house but I disbelieve this
@@EllieOfLondon how are you enjoying the scooter ? I'm thinking of getting one
One of the issues I’ve noticed with mine (slightly different model) is that removing the battery means you can’t then set the alarm locking - you’ll still get the notifications though if you get the app…
loved it .
Hi do you think that will get a chance to review the Silence S01 at any time ?
Err, no plans but you never know!
It would be interesting to see how insurance, and registration will be handled in the US. How will NIU M+ will be classified as a "moped," because it is restricted? That would be a plus for me. The M+ has underseat storage.
David Collins hi Dave there is another version of this scooter that is classified as a 50cc moped and restricted to 30mph this scooter is way to fast to be classified a moped as he said it's equivalent to a 125 cc scooter/bike
Right, I've been following the reviews. The M+ is restricted to 30mph, and uses one big battery. ...and to correct myself it takes up the underseat storage to give enough power to carry a passenger. In my state it is not legal to carry a passenger so the M is what I really want. The M was discontinued, but it had underseat space. I'm old school. Would u reccomend a model without the phone connectivity?
I’m sure someone has said it.... you can change the sound of the blinker....I googled it and found it. It involves switching it left to right in a certain pattern to scroll through
Was wondering, are the batteries interchangeable? Can you use the front battery in the back etc?
Yes!
It's a shame they went with linked brakes instead of ABS. Can you run the bike with a single battery if you wanted the storage space under the seat? They're 60v batteries and I doubt the motor is running off 120v (that's more than a Zero) so it should be fine to run off one with reduced range. What is the keyhole for under the seat?
I've had mine for over 2 years and 22,000km. It's a perfect town bike. I used mine for deliveries in a low power (30mph ( 47km/h ) ) and I would get about 50-70 miles out of it over a session. The insurance for me is £450 fully comp ( expensive ) compared to my BMW R1100 which was £210. Indicator noise is annoying but essential as it makes pedestrians ( oblivious people ) look before stepping out on junctions because they are assuming no engine noise = no vehicle. I did Leicester to Nottingham on it (36 miles ) in full power the entire way and it had about 10 miles range in it when I got there ( I was staying overnight and rode back the next day. So I had taken my charger ). It certainly draws attention. I often get other scooter / bikes / cars chatting with me. I can very much recommend one of these - if you can find the insurance at a price that's acceptable to you.
Oh and changing a tyre yourself is very doable. I just take the wheel to a filling station and use the air there. I have done the rear wheel which is the hardest one to do as you have to disconnect the motor. There are a few vids around on how to do this.
Cool!
You can change the indicator sound. Most of them are really annoying, the old-style clicking noise like a relay is ok-ish.
Great vid my friend. I do think that no storage does leave a LOT to think about with an electric scooter. You really loose the function of what a scooter is for the most part used for by most commuters. If it has great rage then maybe delivery or couriers can use them. Although I hear they have a problem with theft in city locations. Ah well at least it's a step in the right direction for electric engines.
edit: 2:50 you can change the tune... press the direction indicator twice to the right and then twice to the left and you then enter a menu with tunes you can roam through and select with the same indicator button.
Cool!
Its good to finally see an affordable electric scooter with adequate range and speed. It really should come with a rear rack though ,given the lack of storage. A major oversight imo.
It does, just go to any niu stockist
@@stumpusMaximus: To be fair I can see why they might have chosen not to pre-fit a top box, given that it’s likely that a lot of people won’t be happy with a given choice (put a small “round” one and you’ll miss the pizza delivery guys, put a pizza one and the bother you’ll get on top of it’s unsuitability, and so on…) as long as they’re easy to retrofit, which they are…
I would not need more than 20 miles range max for where I would go.
Can I not even instal the battery under the seat for more storage or do the two batter have to be together for the correct voltage?
No - you can use one at a time....
They have a Koto pick as the indicator sound lol..
We need a review of the treeletrik bike 🙏🏿🙏🏿‼️‼️
So far as of today how is the niu? battery general cost for any parts or problems/service?
Well it’s not mine, I only borrowed it for review!
Winner in the city IMO.
TMF you mentioned about insurance.......do you use the manufactures insurance when you ride the loan bikes?
Depends on the manufacturer, but usually yes...
@@TheMissendenFlyer Thanks for the answer TMF
So what category licence does it come under? Given there's no CC capacity could someone on a CBT ride it or is it full cat A only?
It can only do 47 miles an hour so I'm guessing CBT. I believe licensed are categorised by weight to power ratio and BHP not cc .
also to mention, although not related to this bike's features, but the NUI RQI motorcycle is coming out (well, it's "out" since 2019, but still isn't available for purchase yet - at least not in the US); much faster speed (~100 mph) at ~80 miles range; with EBS and if driving much slower, the range might double, maybe go up to ~200 miles - but that's just an estimation based on my experience with electric vehicles.
Do you have to use both batteries? I ask cos if you were popping to the shops take the battery under the seat out and you have a bit more space, just less range. 🤔😁
I think you can use one battery but aren’t 100% sure....
You can use just one battery ( front ). But you’ll only have half the power. ( 45km/h)
I think the lack of storage on this scooter would be a major factor for those thinking of buying one as it's one of the main attractions of owning one.
You can travel with just the one battery under the footplate. You then get more storage but less range.
Steve Edwards riding without the battery under the seat also limits you to 30mph. I just ordered a luggage rack and slapped my old top box on it and now I have two batteries and locking storage as well
How easy is it to lift up on the back wheel to get it on a small elevator? Want to keep it in my appartment.
I don’t know, I didn’t try - sorry!!
But you do t use just back brake if you did your test it states 70%front to 30% back
1- what is the range?
2-Back wheel will always lock up, that is why the front brake is the main brake and situated on the side with most peoples dominant hand.
Have a wonderful day riding that thing :)
with the biggest batteries at full speed about 60 km
Did you find out that you can change the indicator sound?
Yes!
Hey there! The latest model on NIU’s website has linked brakes which should help solve the rear brake locking problem. I’m hoping to test ride one in Turkey, probably by April.
Sounds like an improvement - enjoy the test ride!
No mention of range or top speed?
Will the bike run with only one battery? Could you omit the under seat battery if you needed the space?
Yes I think you can...but not 100% sure...
Does make me wonder if you could buy a spare set of batteries and then just swap them over while the other pair goes on charge! :P Great review and an interesting little bike!
Yes of course you could!
So, are you saying that loud pipes save lives?
These are used as rentals in New York City, and I believe that people underestimate the performance of these scooter's, so without any rider safety training we've seen an increase of fatalities lately.
To be clear it's really no fault of the scooter, but that if the operator.
I've rented one and thought I'd like to buy one for myself, it's a nice city scooter.
Nice scooter 🙂👍
What's the real world range on this thing mate?
So you can actually take both batteries out, the one under the floor too?
Yep
About the insurance, if you are in the USA. Geico will insurance your bike. I paid $28 a month but I have a good record.
You can change the indicatorsound, there are like 20 sounds built into the bike
Great isn't it.....
@@TheMissendenFlyer It is!
Have you ever reviewed a honda nc750s? I own one and think it's one of the easiest big bikes. Shame honda arent making them anymore though
Insurance companies are stuck in the past. Nice review.
Nice review and a decent scooter BUT if you cant insure it its just a £3k door stop.
Excellent review. Electric motorbikes and bicycles could massively reduce the number of private cars in city centres 👍⚡️🔌
Do they sell separate btys ? If delivery scooter use one charge one could be good idea
I would imagine so yes....
@@TheMissendenFlyer u checked pricey around £1000 still puts cost at £4000 with second bty not sure its quite there compared to say yamaha namx 125cc as of yet getting close
Can you run it on one battery and make use of the storage under the seat?
You can indeed....
yes, but it limits the bike to dynamic mode, which means its reduced max speed and acceleration - not to mention range (although you can swap the batteries then, but again it'll still have the same speed and acc restrictions); on the positive side, your overall range will increase by driving in this mode 😂
as for the positive point, "the electronics on-board"... there is / are some "cabling issues" of electrical wiring, which are not as securely fit as they could be and inconsistent securing of connectors (some have an "adhesive" at those connectors, some do not); this could be "fairly easily" remedied by opening up the bike cover and engaging in some "cable management" activity and other TLC (such as applying some "liquid adhesive" at the connectors where it's missing). only because people from "apple, bmw, ..." are behind the design / engineering, doesn't mean there weren't corners cut. this is especially important to remember when using this as your only means of commute (which a lot of ppl actually do, especially now with the gasoline prices gone up so much). in other words, it's always a bad idea to "buy into a brand".