Adventure Time: Fionna & Cake Review - S1E2 - Simon Petrikov

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  • Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
  • “Simon Petrikov” was an amazing follow-up to “Fionna Campbell.” This episode explored the troubled and depressed psyche of Simon who feels alone and out of place in the Land of Ooo. We also got to see Choose Goose (now evil from Coconteppi’s ichor), Dirt Beer Guy, TV, and of course, none other than Finn Mertens (who got jacked)! The forest environment in this episode was also among my favorites. I cannot wait to see what developments occur next after the fun (and sadness, when it comes to Simon) that was episode 2 of Fionna & Cake.
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  • @_NIKOS9_NIKOS
    @_NIKOS9_NIKOS Рік тому +1364

    The fact tho, that Ice King wanted to find love and to be accepted and appreciated ever since he came to be. Only for people to actually start missing him and like his works/personalitty long after he himself ceased to exist, adds several more layers to Simon's depression.

    • @Hi-yt2xk
      @Hi-yt2xk Рік тому +89

      Simon’s depression has layers, it’s like an onion

    • @jin1p777
      @jin1p777 Рік тому +16

      ​@@Hi-yt2xkIt's smells?

    • @Frac.Razoer
      @Frac.Razoer Рік тому +2

      It hasn’t been that long

    • @Skumfuk737
      @Skumfuk737 Рік тому +40

      @@Frac.RazoerHe’s been Ice King for 1000 years, it’s been a long fucking time.

    • @DarkLordGanondorf190
      @DarkLordGanondorf190 Рік тому +38

      Finn isn't really a bad guy here. But in burying his own grief, he is acting very emotionally immature.
      He sent Simon out to gather wood in hopes of him getting into trouble so that he would have something to distract himself.
      When you know that a younger Finn had grown to be introspective and knew when to slow down and talk things over, it's a marked difference.

  • @FlumpyTripod
    @FlumpyTripod Рік тому +546

    To me, it seems Finn's recklessness stems from his underlying desire to meet with Jake again in the deadworld. Like he said in "Together Again," he was hoping to reunite with Jake the entire time after Jake died. I think he's abandoned any sort of fear of death at this point because he secretly wants it to some degree

    • @currynun02
      @currynun02 Рік тому +48

      Damn that’s kinda sad ngl

    • @lokensicarius9347
      @lokensicarius9347 Рік тому +57

      I can see that, ever since he met the comet an unlocked memories of his former incarnations and the fact he went to deadworld already, death isn't that big of a deal for the likes of him.

    • @Halford_Steel
      @Halford_Steel Рік тому +29

      But in the world where you know exactly what the afterlife is like probably takes a few notches out of the fear of death to begin with

    • @FlumpyTripod
      @FlumpyTripod Рік тому +16

      @@Halford_Steel True. Although I don't think Finn knew exactly what the afterlife was for him as there are 50 deadworlds. He'd only been to 1

    • @rosamy2017
      @rosamy2017 11 місяців тому +15

      I agree. I also think he’s trying to live life as Jake would have, which is to not let anything bother you and accept your inevitable death. But Finn is much more attached to people and things than Jake was, so it isn’t working.

  • @ironicweeb4111
    @ironicweeb4111 Рік тому +390

    My personal Head canon is that Jakes descendants would tag along to make sure that he’s ‘Fine’ cause they realize that he doesn’t handle loss well

    • @bugra-yildirim
      @bugra-yildirim 11 місяців тому +14

      Yeah. They are all much mature than finn at this point due to rainicorn blood.

  • @DemiTrusdale3
    @DemiTrusdale3 Рік тому +759

    Finn’s kinda like a better version of Martin now.
    Using his past experiences to press his friends and live his life to the fullest , all while trying to bury a traumatic memory or event.
    I might be off, but Finn’s positivity… its reminding me of Martin’s hustling positivity.

    • @Green1sh01
      @Green1sh01 Рік тому +132

      Honestly, it’s a surprise he didn’t turn more out like Martin with how Jake was sometimes lol, but I’m guessing Joshua and Margaret installed enough into him that he turned out to be the hero he is now.

    • @CinnamonGrrlErin1
      @CinnamonGrrlErin1 Рік тому +114

      Finn has the best qualities of both of his biological parents and was raised by a loving adopted family. He also works hard at being a good guy I think, we've seen go through some hugely dark times in his life and he's still a good guy. He really does have a Hero Heart.

    • @stingerjohnny9951
      @stingerjohnny9951 Рік тому +11

      @@CinnamonGrrlErin1 It’s not his heart that’s in question, more the brain lol.

    • @CinnamonGrrlErin1
      @CinnamonGrrlErin1 Рік тому +17

      @stingerjohnny9951 what about his brain besides being street smart and not book smart? He's not actively hostile or mean or cruel or inconsiderate like his biological parents were. He has flaws like every single human that's ever existed, but that's why he's such a compelling character; how many other shows explore the philosophies on the human condition like this one?

    • @434utopia
      @434utopia Рік тому +32

      @@CinnamonGrrlErin1 I think he's saying Finns Brain is Similar to Martin's and he means the lack of wisdom in this older Finn's advice. Distracting himself like Martin, instead of getting to the root of problems. Opting to take Simon on a quest and not talk about sad stuff when Simon is clearly experiencing deep deep grief. Its similar to how Martin would not address Finn's grief when Finn confronted Martin about it. and would just divert the problem to something that related to himself like "oh my ships on fire.". Finn's unique "Hero heart", like you said, can still be seen though. As he pays respect to all life, and he holds values instilled by his mother & adopted family, and his friends.

  • @spoonslayer
    @spoonslayer Рік тому +260

    Simon did incorporate his antiquarian knowledge to the land of OOO … he has become the antique 👴🏻

  • @tenkenroo
    @tenkenroo Рік тому +107

    The fact Finn didn’t go back to dungeon train till he died is enough of a win for me

  • @baglord2803
    @baglord2803 Рік тому +220

    I really enjoy the fact Finn doesn't have all the right answers and is still flawed it makes him feel even more real and like he is still growing even when we aren't watching

    • @valkyrie-randgris
      @valkyrie-randgris Рік тому +8

      Big same. If there's one thing I hate it's shows that end and then imply that all the characters lived happily ever after and never changed or grew again.

    • @kappanova1302
      @kappanova1302 Рік тому +7

      It's realistic, especially in a period of tormenting grief, but i can't help but feel like it's a step back. I know that growth isn't linear, yet miss the series finale Finn who seemed so at peace with all that he went through

    • @jesstar119
      @jesstar119 Рік тому

      exactly!!! made me upset when people compared finn's behavior in the new series as martin as if finns isn't doing everything he's meant to be!!

    • @jesstar119
      @jesstar119 Рік тому +3

      @@kappanova1302finn stills seems very at peace, i mean did you see his connection with his intuition, only that intuition will get him ultimately closer to jake (reincarnation)
      and this series does feel like a step back though as it seems simon just committed a cosmic crime

  • @ThePonderer
    @ThePonderer Рік тому +461

    Y’know initially after watching this episode I was kinda let down by Finn being kind of oblivious to Simon’s emotional needs, but watching their conversation in the bar again, Finn really is trying his best, and at the very least clearly sympathizes with Simon’s plight.

    • @asmodeusguys4472
      @asmodeusguys4472 Рік тому +55

      Eh, he's going through some stuff rn probably, if Jake really is dead rn. And him helping Simon out really is just a coping mechanism that works for him, at least in the moment.

    • @wandereringshadow8658
      @wandereringshadow8658 Рік тому +48

      @@asmodeusguys4472 Thats what I thought too. If Jake is dead, Finn likely is just using the same coping mechanisms that worked for him (Avoid the issue and do more ADVENTURE TIME!) Without realizing that isn't really the best way to process your emotions.

    • @darkmetro8882
      @darkmetro8882 Рік тому +20

      @@asmodeusguys4472 I agree. I felt like Fin's character changed and now he's more dense and lacking emotional depth, like he's a shallow version of his past self. I realized that he probably took a very big mental hit with Jake's death, so I'm gonna excuse his new self as a result of that.

    • @justaghostinthesea
      @justaghostinthesea Рік тому +65

      I interpreted it as Finn having no frame of reference for what Simon considers "normal". Finn grew up in a fantastical world filled with magic and incredible science. He's been slaying monsters and rescuing princesses since he was a kid. All of that is just normal for him. Even if he empathizes with Simon and wants to help him, Finn doesn't, and in some ways can't, really understand him and what he's going through.

    • @maillardsbearcat
      @maillardsbearcat Рік тому +28

      Finn has his own way of coping. He's just treating Simon's emotional needs the same way he would process his own.

  • @randomatorPHD
    @randomatorPHD Рік тому +39

    Simon’s major problem is that since shedding his persona as the ice king, he unintentionally dropped far too much of what made him himself. Even before the ice crown drove him completely insane, Simon was a lovable weirdo. Now he associates that charm with someone else and as a result has reverted to “a normal human” as a personality. He isn’t caged in that human exhibit, he literally has the keys, but chooses to shut himself out the moment someone reminds him of who he used to be.
    Simon’s story here will likely revolve around embracing his stranger side and learning to love all of himself.

  • @enderwiggins8248
    @enderwiggins8248 Рік тому +167

    It was disturbing but really profound to take the direction that Simon being the ice king was a bit like being high. He essentially was in a drugged out fugue state for thousands of years so that he never had to really feel biting existential misery. It really mirrored the struggle a lot of people have in sobriety, where they’re no longer a part of the madness, and yet relapsing offers a tantalizing rescue from the drudgery of the daily grind and the boring person they are now.

    • @maillardsbearcat
      @maillardsbearcat Рік тому +4

      Oh you're so right

    • @Parzivle
      @Parzivle Рік тому +12

      I personally saw and related to this heavily, I spent years numbing myself to everything and even nowadays I sit there with my drink just like Simon and think about the good old times where I was a mess and didn’t feel bad about it since I didn’t really feel at all. I really hope to see this expanded upon in the future episodes because Simon has always been one of the characters that makes me feel the most and this storyline cuts me deep and I want to see him get resolution for something I still struggle with

    • @matth2283
      @matth2283 Рік тому +9

      if you look at it like this. Everything just becomes so much worse. How everybody treats Simon.
      "you used to be a cool ice wizard, now you are a sad sack of shit". It's just not cool.

    • @shawndashno6022
      @shawndashno6022 Рік тому +8

      It's a perfect allegory for not just addiction, but the struggle that comes with the memories of that other "life" never going away, and how to deal with that. I'll die on the "Simon is the best character created in the last 20 years" hill. So relatable, well written, beautiful and sad, all at the same time.

  • @yami_the_witch
    @yami_the_witch Рік тому +124

    I love the duality of Simon being an insane man in an insane world chasing mundane while Fionna is a mundane woman in a mundane world chasing insanity. I am so excited for the upcoming episodes seeing them talk out each other's problems while having wacky adventures with the two, and well, Cake. I sort of didn't expect the crew to give Simon some believable quarrels. It makes total sense that the man who lost everything he loved and got stuck in a world far from what he's used to by adventuring, wouldn't wanna continue adventuring. It also makes total sense that Simon doesn't wanna talk about his problems, he doesn't want to hurt other's feelings. Him opening up to pretty much only Finn also makes so much sense. Finn is the closest thing to what Simon thinks of as "human" as "normal" as "mundane". Making Fionna said mundane woman was such a good conscious decision, it leaves for SO much writing potential and it means that them eventually teaming up makes so much sense.
    EDIT: I think the repeated mention of people liking the Fionna and Cake books more is purposeful sub-text that people like Ice King more than Simon. It's supposed to hammer home just HOW alienated he truly is in the Land of OOO. Noone even wants him around, which feeds his depression EVEN further.

  • @Solo_Sessums
    @Solo_Sessums Рік тому +65

    You know simon's like that scholar main character of a Lovecraft novel who we stick with AFTER they've peered through the veil of our flimsy reality into the abyss of madness, monsters, gumballs, and naked babies.

  • @loganwendigo937
    @loganwendigo937 Рік тому +64

    Something I haven’t seen anyone else mention is that Finn’s whole philosophy about the universe guiding him can also be from The Comet. When Finn is lost in space and sings a song to the universe for help then Martin & the Space Moth showed up

    • @valkyrie-randgris
      @valkyrie-randgris Рік тому +6

      That was definitely my first thought when I watched the ep. (Though I'm sure it helped that I rewatched "The Comet" recently.)

  • @philly_sports1558
    @philly_sports1558 Рік тому +52

    The depiction of Ooo ~12 years after the finale is just so rich and filled with character. I’ve always believed that one of Adventure Time’s best aspects is its sense of setting and the fact that Ooo is such a fully realized world with so much detail. The worldbuilding allowed the show to be as creative as possible with its plots. I’m so glad that sense of setting has carried over to the spin-offs and sequels.

    • @JohnPeacekeeper
      @JohnPeacekeeper Рік тому +13

      I love that we got to see how the world developed after Adventure Time ended, with humans returning to Ooo. Them having a flying city makes sense too, given they're still the weakest species (barring Finn motherflipping Mertens) even if their technology is equal only to the Candy Kingdom
      Side note but I really wanna know how it went when Huntress Wizard inevitably met Minerva's consciousness

  • @Max_Brass
    @Max_Brass Рік тому +276

    God I missed this. Watching adventure time, then hopping over to Uncivilized Elk for the breakdown.
    It's good to be back! 😁❤️❤️❤️

    • @poofysweaters3795
      @poofysweaters3795 Рік тому +10

      SAAAME. i always value elk's insight, especially on details i miss the first watchthrough-lest we forget the video on i am a sword's objectification and personification themes 😢

    • @MrSceptile768
      @MrSceptile768 Рік тому +5

      Absolutely my brother!

    • @YormanGina
      @YormanGina Рік тому

      Forreal. Reminds me of that one site called LandofOoo where people would go to talk about the show.

  • @matthewgustavson4843
    @matthewgustavson4843 Рік тому +8

    I feel like Finn was subconsciously doing a "Martin voice" when he said that thinking about sad stuff gets you nowhere" and then he winks. He then looks really uncomfortable and later has to reassure himself that he is doing the right thing by Simon by keeping him busy.

  • @JiroAndroid
    @JiroAndroid Рік тому +124

    Tom Kenny deserves all the awards for his performance as Simon. He's able to perfectly capture the existential malaise of being trapped in a world he doesn't belong in, and the agony of constantly being reminded of a former life you can't relate to anymore.
    Also, it seems like Finn inherited the best and worst traits of his dad whether he's aware of it or not. He's got confidence for days and the brains/brawn to back it up, but it seems like he's really leaned into the toxic psychological state of "If I don't think about them, my problems will just go away!" Granted, he's way nicer than Martin ever was and genuinely cares about other people's trauma, but it also feels like he's not able to relate to anyone else's position secondary to his own, so his idea of helping is to just make people go through the same coping mechanisms HE would go through. Empathetic to a fault, but a sort of narcissistic form of empathy when you think about it. You can tell this is a Finn who's still processing the grief of losing his brother and his best friend, and has gone all in on escapist adventures that stop him from feeling sad but also don't really give him the emotional support he desperately needs.
    At least we've seen Together Again at this point, so we know that he turns out alright eventually, but the guy's had it pretty rough.
    Side note, but one of the reasons I've loved/missed this show so much is that it treats its characters as real people with all the baggage that comes with that. A lesser show would just make them funny cartoon people again for some kind of nostalgic cash grab, but not Fionna and Cake. This is a show that picks up RIGHT where the finale left off and proudly portrays what people are like at a more mature stage of their life, not simply catering to fanservice but continuing informed, logical character arcs that audiences have been invested in up to this point. This is how you properly revive a franchise, and I hope other studios take note of that.

  • @UnorthodoxIndividual
    @UnorthodoxIndividual Рік тому +13

    I really liked how despite Finn turning out like his dad in the sense that he's always trying to move forwards and never really linger on thinking about the past because he has trouble dealing with it, he diverges from Martin by putting in more effort to actually help those he cares about rather than fleeing altogether when shit hits the fan or a new opportunity arises for him. Even if his efforts aren't really successful, and his advice is not good as we saw with Simon lol.

  • @Poio_Freido
    @Poio_Freido Рік тому +175

    I really loved Finn's new spiritual approach to live. It felt like influence from Huntress Wizard and specially Jake. I hope we get to see more of him

  • @limonx6778
    @limonx6778 Рік тому +55

    I always liked to think of the ice king as a metaphor for addiction, and I think Simon's situation and the way he talks about it in his episode kinda mirrors the feeling of getting sober after years of being someone else

  • @appleofdoom
    @appleofdoom Рік тому +29

    I love how the song is about "Madness and Sadness." It's like while he was the Ice King, Simon was suffering through magic-induced madness and sadness but now that he's a human again he's having to deal with his own madness and sadness.

  • @jesstar119
    @jesstar119 Рік тому +7

    i think finn's behavior in the new series shows his acceptance and understanding, he couldn't just give simon a therapy session because finn has never been that type of person, finn's acting exactly how i'd expect him to, he's helping in the only way he knows he's equipped for

  • @user-wz4mx2nz3y
    @user-wz4mx2nz3y Рік тому +8

    Simon is like an innocent ex-inmate. He got put into jail(the labyrinth of the crown) for years for reason he couldn't have forseen(the crown turning him insane). After years of being apart from the world he's finally released from his jail cell(regain his sanity). He sees the worlds changed so much. Like a guy living in the 70s is sent to 2020. No one familiar remains. He can't really have "normal" jobs since he's spent too much time in jail and is too detached from the real world. No one's living in the old style he's so used to. No one can relate to him. It's just straight depressing.

  • @dicko6017
    @dicko6017 Рік тому +11

    In episode 2, Simon tells young marcy that if he wasnt around, she would be found and adopted by rich parents.
    In episode 1, Marshal has rich parents

    • @valkyrie-randgris
      @valkyrie-randgris Рік тому +5

      Heavily implied that Simon is also the one that set up Hunson meeting with her again before he felt comfortable leaving as Ice King in the normal timeline, in all fairness.

  • @casualbird7671
    @casualbird7671 Рік тому +24

    I love how adventure time just... keeps going. I thought this series would have little to add to the original plot at first, given it was about another reality entirely. Oh how wrong I have been and excitedly so. Poor Finn though, and his "I love fixing people" line near the end of the episode makes me worry how much damage he may have done to others just to try and distract himself.

  • @denstruction
    @denstruction Рік тому +15

    i liked that simon used the evil choose goose to try and reach golbetty considering how choose goose has a sliver of primordial monster energy in him from coconteppi and how the lich being the last scholar of golb and his knowledge on the primordials hints at a link between the primordials and golb

  • @LokiStarOmen
    @LokiStarOmen Рік тому +73

    For once I actually got an alert for a video! I identify a lot with Simon. Partly from being someone who spent 10 years unable to walk, and even though I’m still disabled I can manage walking short distances around my flat. But because of the few improvements I’ve had, the parts that have gotten worse are ignored and people around me seem to be waiting for me to start living a more normal life and get a job.
    It’s like the entire world is completely different now from the world I was trying to find a job in before. I’m constantly reminded of who I used to be before I got sick and who I was when I was unable to do anything at all and I can’t go back to either of those but there’s so much in the way of me making a new life for myself either.
    And people trying to help me just keep dragging me into their own problematic ways of coping with their own reality, and because they are able to work full time and think it’s a simple case of I “don’t have to work” (as if I have a choice) it’s hard to relate to them and hard to believe they’ll take my issues seriously because they think my lack of a job is a freedom and a choice despite it boxing me into a situation where I can’t afford basic necessities half the time let alone “luxuries” like body wash that I’m not allergic to and pop.
    The existential crisis of craving the past, being jealous of a sick version of ourselves for being too out of it to care how messed up everything is and struggling to get a foothold in the world we found ourselves in once our conditions improved enough for us to function on a basic level all hits way too close to home for me

    • @maiam388
      @maiam388 Рік тому +5

      This is heartbreaking and I’m so sorry you are going through that. Your writing is beautiful and even though I haven’t gone through anything as difficult as you are, I can relate as someone who struggles with mental illness and people expecting you to “be like how you were before” and also holding you to new unfair standards now that you’re “better”. I don’t want to say some corny crap like “I know it will get better!!!” but I sincerely believe that you are an incredibly strong person, and I hope you keep fighting, as you deserve happiness and I believe in your ability to get there.
      Sincerely,
      A rambling stranger on the internet

    • @LokiStarOmen
      @LokiStarOmen Рік тому +3

      @@maiam388that’s incredibly sweet. I’m sorry that you can understand that pain but I think it helps everyone to know their not alone in these things 💜

    • @user-ws2kb7zh3w
      @user-ws2kb7zh3w Рік тому +2

      Thanx for sharing, never thought that ice king’s state could be disability (and it seems kinda obvious now).
      Good luck with everything! You matter just as you are!

    • @matth2283
      @matth2283 Рік тому +1

      yeah, I don't really like how the show treats Simon. Everybody is just so mean to him. Like nobody has an ounce of compassion in the world of Ooo. Even Fionna and Cake who are supposed to be from a more modern, "real" world.
      "you used to be a cool ice wizard, now you are a sad sack of shit" completely unnecessary comments. They just keep kicking him while he is down.

    • @LokiStarOmen
      @LokiStarOmen Рік тому +1

      @@matth2283yikes! I haven’t seen the next couple episodes yet but that hurt my soul. I think it’s supposed to be representative of how people treat disabled people though, I don’t believe the characters are supposed to be in the right for treating him like this. But it’s true they are treating him horribly and they need a wake up call. I think Simon might have a breakdown that forces both him and the others to confront how they treat him and how he treats himself and the unfamiliar world he’s living in at some point before the end of the first season

  • @justanothermortal1373
    @justanothermortal1373 Рік тому +17

    Finn saying "bust your balls" in this episode made me so hysterical 😭.
    In fact, Finn was totally hysterical all throughout the episode. Never change, Finn.

  • @MumboMod
    @MumboMod Рік тому +6

    Further to Finn's unhealthy roughness, I felt the scene where he uses the weed whacker, pauses to smell the freshly cut grass, says "oh yeahhh" and then continues whacking to be real sad - the last time he's seen using the tool is when he kills Fern...

  • @Osmomorfismo
    @Osmomorfismo Рік тому +8

    the fact that that both episodes mirror another is not a coincidence nor a wink. In the episode "The Lich" when Booko explains the multiverse he sais: "an acitvated portal creates a time dilation wich either end of the portal experiences a time synchronization allowing for the safe passing of particles" So, this mirroing is nothing BUT that time synchronization!!!!!! when i realized this i literally screamed my sh*t out

  • @hattoripool1533
    @hattoripool1533 Рік тому +47

    You know I like Finn’s adult design. I always imagined Adult Finn would have a Conan the Barbarian like design with him being extremely muscular and this is kind of close to that. Yes I know there was a future Finn design in the earlier seasons called by some fans Guts Finn but at this point I’m pretty sure that was a possible future

  • @PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth
    @PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth Рік тому +6

    One thing I kinda hope Simon does is devote himself to recording everything he knew about the pre-war world and its history. He's one of the only people left on the planet who knows anything about the 2000+ years of human history lost to the mushroom wars.

  • @UmbraIzas
    @UmbraIzas Рік тому +13

    Can I just say how giddy it makes me to see Tom Kenny act in such a mature and complex way in comparison to most of his kids media?
    Like sure its depressing and cynical, but it just astounds me how much he range he has an actor. I really appreciate it.

  • @Lyric_thecat
    @Lyric_thecat Рік тому +95

    Let’s just appreciate how after several years of barely making any videos, this man (or whatever you identify as) just gets back to the grind like this! Good work man❤

    • @frogchamp.
      @frogchamp. Рік тому +9

      lets not aprecciate the fact im reading one of these again

    • @oliveoiI
      @oliveoiI Рік тому +19

      “(or whatever you identify as)” sounds 100x more pretentious then just saying man. if you’re that worried just say person lol

    • @valkyrie-randgris
      @valkyrie-randgris Рік тому

      @@oliveoiI Oh fuck off and just let someone try and be thoughtful without being gleefully obnoxious about it for once. Like it's some kind of gotcha. "Oh no! The wording is clunky." You sound 10 000 times more pretentious then some awkward kid trying to be nice. I promise.

  • @snackbasket1214
    @snackbasket1214 11 місяців тому +3

    I was quite surprised that Simon did not pursue more research after becoming normal. He was into that stuff back then, and I would have loved to see his input of all the curiosities that Ooo has to offer. I wish that he even got to team up with PB to make some cool science-y thing.

  • @darkmask5933
    @darkmask5933 Рік тому +8

    1:31 we gonna ignore the fact that Simon has Gunter and Island Lady on his contacts list? You have to wonder, is this Ice King's old contacts from a decade ago? Or does Simon actually have Gunter (Ice Thing's) number and does he still talk with Island Lady?

  • @g.carpentier5651
    @g.carpentier5651 Рік тому +62

    Woo-hoo! Thanks for discussing this, always love your work ❤

  • @lc360
    @lc360 Рік тому +14

    I had zero interest in fionna and cake when it was first announced.. but these first episodes got me HOOKED. They sooo clearly know what fans love about AT. The lore and the detail and nuanced characters... Spinoffs and reboots often feel so stale but I'm already so in love with this

  • @breezeshooter42
    @breezeshooter42 Рік тому +16

    This episode is already easily one of the best in the whole franchise, and Tom Kenny really knocked it out of the park with his performance

  • @PeterPenn10
    @PeterPenn10 Рік тому +20

    Dude, I miss your channel. Wtf I graduated college now and I still love watching these breakdowns/reviews like a habit.

  • @user-sn6jv5dv9s
    @user-sn6jv5dv9s Рік тому +3

    I think it’s heavily implied that Fionna and Cake’s universe exists inside of Ice King’s own head and represents his inner psyche (thus cat leaping out of the back of his head). I think it used to be a magical universe as we saw in the series but when Simon became himself again the magic was stripped away and it became depressing, mirroring his current state. This would also explain why Fionna and Simon have the same experiences walking through the woods/street, the banana guards talking about HR, the people on skates/fairies, etc.They’re not just thematically linked, they’re how ice king sees his own life.

  • @shockingheaven
    @shockingheaven 11 місяців тому +2

    Getting reminded of Ice King saying "I just wanna be loved" and how that casual line really ties to Simon as a person

  • @Egg-Thor
    @Egg-Thor Рік тому +11

    You have no idea how happy it makes me watching your videos. I've been a super fan of yours for years, and I'll continue to be for years to come. I'm so excited for weekly videos from you!

  • @gostek2315
    @gostek2315 Рік тому +8

    I hope that due to the interdimensional theme of the series, we will get an episode in which Simon confronts his past Ice king persona. What I missed in the ending of the original series was a conclusion for the character of Ice king. Persononally I would like to see Simon acknowledge Ice King as his own invidual with hopes and dreams who is now gone. And so do Ice King ... well in his case, it would be literally acknowledging Simon existence ;)

  • @jaredlee7626
    @jaredlee7626 Рік тому +17

    I greatly missed these types of videos and I’m super happy to see you back

  • @pedroff_1
    @pedroff_1 Рік тому +6

    I didn't know I needed Adventure Time back into my life as much as this show has made me realise

  • @DroseraNara
    @DroseraNara Рік тому +3

    4:00 It's more than that. I watched both episodes at the same time - camera pans synch up. When ice prince appears, simon is in his memory saying 'no darling, it's me' and the next time we see ice prince is just after marcy has fallen asleep and simon is staring at the crown. The cheers theme ends just as Fionna's sitcome-esque theme comes on. Hunter appears as Finn mentions going to see Huntress Wizard and their whole walk through the garden up to around where Fionna calls him Ellis fits nicely within the Rebecca Sugar song. I am almost positive that not only are we supposed to believe that these episodes take place at the same time, we're supposed to watch them that way too.

  • @PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth
    @PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth Рік тому +4

    9:45
    Not only is that a Martin-esque wink, it's also EXACTLY the same coping mechanism that Martin used when faced with his own trauma. Finn is a LOT more like his father then he'd probably like to admit...

  • @CinnamonGrrlErin1
    @CinnamonGrrlErin1 Рік тому +6

    Poor Choose Goose, but I guess that explains why he was down in the muck in "Together Again."
    But this episode was so packed with stuff, it's almost overwhelming, and I have a feeling that these first 2 episodes will be even more interesting after the rest of the series airs. Which is what I loved most about the original AT series, it can feel different rewatching it once you know how things will go, and I'm still finding new things in the background. Distant Lands didn't always quite get there for me, although I love it a lot, but this series definitely knows how to layer things.

  • @SuperDuperJamer
    @SuperDuperJamer Рік тому +4

    Respect for ending the discussion to put out the episode - that restraint is so hard! Well done, keep it up

  • @josiahtheawkward6008
    @josiahtheawkward6008 Рік тому +3

    I always appreciate any channel that has subtitles right from the get-go

  • @PuntiS
    @PuntiS Рік тому +2

    I am just so glad that Adventure Time keeps.. going on, with the story getting always better, while still retaining all those great aspects of introspection, human psyche and philosophy.
    At this point it is almost a labor of love to ensure it keeps going strong while not fumbling the ball in any specific area.
    I mean, Jake dying? When would that ever happen if this was done solely for the revenue aspect? And it adds so much depth to everything. I just love this show so much.

  • @lyssaharboure6241
    @lyssaharboure6241 Рік тому +3

    Man, I didn’t see the similarities between Finn and Martin until you pointed it out.. guess even Finn can’t escape turning into a parent eventually

  • @mortuusponduus7879
    @mortuusponduus7879 Рік тому +3

    It is so sad to see Finn never being able to move on from Jake's Death, It clearly demonstrates why he ended up in the 37th dead world.

  • @shawndashno6022
    @shawndashno6022 Рік тому +2

    Simon Petrikov is, imho, one of the greatest characters ever created!! Amazingly complex, easily relatable and artistically expressed. It's absolutely brilliant, sad and beautiful at the same time. Oh, and in regards to the "increase" in violence, remember, no show has done a better job of "growing with it's audience" than this entire series.

  • @unviewerrandom4792
    @unviewerrandom4792 Рік тому +2

    So glad to have you back man ... seriously your voice always calm me down.
    I want to say thanks ;.. its because of you i discover adventure time

  • @axelfullstop
    @axelfullstop 11 місяців тому +1

    I really enjoyed Tom Kenny's performance in this episode and the way he depicted a breakdown was really interesting to see

  • @ryleylang6840
    @ryleylang6840 Рік тому +3

    You are the only person I would ever watch a review from so i’m so glad your back!

  • @modestMismagius105
    @modestMismagius105 Рік тому +1

    just a random detail I noticed, but the body that finn steps on when running to save simon from the bear creature looks a lot like dung defender (aka ogrim) from hollow knight; kinda morbid to see such a loveable character from one of my favorite games have their corpse be used as a stepping stone lol, but having hk referenced at all was really cool to see :]

  • @SirDankington
    @SirDankington Рік тому +2

    9:42 Honestly, that's actually some good advice, depending on your problem.
    Sometimes the best choice is to just not think about the negative stuff and instead focus on more positive things, especially if the negative stuff is something you can't really do anything about.

    • @grantwilliams2650
      @grantwilliams2650 Рік тому

      Yeah but it’s not applicable to Ice King’s problem. Betty is his true love and that’s not going to change

  • @larry5153
    @larry5153 Рік тому +1

    I think finn tries to find that adventure spirt to fill the hole that jake left by spending time with jack children. I don't know about you guys but this finn it's just strike my memories of the earlier seasons.anyway great video aww man i did miss this adventure time reviews

  • @soosramirez2510
    @soosramirez2510 Рік тому +2

    Thank God uncivilized elk is back love to have u here ❤

  • @beanogames7182
    @beanogames7182 Рік тому +1

    Glad to have you back uncivilized elk, Love your content and cant wait to see more!

  • @blondeinasweatshirt
    @blondeinasweatshirt Рік тому +2

    this is obvious but it hit me so hard the other day.. Ice King’s favorite princess was always Bubblegum. out of all of the princesses he was fascinated with, wanted to kidnap, or whatever PB was always on top. she is a brainiac and super determined. like Betty. do you think, even in that distant state of mental fog, a small part of Simon saw those Betty-like qualities within PB and that’s why Ice King favored her? because that hurts my feelings 🥲

    • @lperezherrera1608
      @lperezherrera1608 11 місяців тому

      I'd say it's likely. He used to call Betty "princess" too, and maybe that's why the ice king was so obsessed with them.

    • @auburneytuckerson2959
      @auburneytuckerson2959 11 місяців тому

      Yas!

  • @rita6355
    @rita6355 Рік тому +3

    Simon not being the ice king anymore reminds me of almost like Disassociative Identity disorder, like with a new host with new memories and a new body

  • @username-gs2tp
    @username-gs2tp Рік тому +2

    woohoo!! It's great to be back not only with adventure time but back with you! I always love your adventure time videos

  • @sashacastillo7492
    @sashacastillo7492 4 місяці тому

    You are the best adventure time theory youtuber I have ever met. This channel was recommended to me and you have not disappointed me, incredible content ❤

  • @meganmcdonald3333
    @meganmcdonald3333 Рік тому +1

    Simon going through an existential crisis that even a cup of ice cubes will put him on edge is the definition of depression. An don’t get me started on the cocktail I still have mixed feelings on the onions cuz my boi why?!
    Even after the events of Come Along With Me, now that he’s no longer Ice King, Simon is still trying to live a life of normalcy but it gets harder and harder to avoid the little things he did in the past as the Ice King. Fionna and Cake were just one of the many things that connected Simon to his past as the Ice King and having people getting hyped up about this series was one of those triggers.
    Point is, Simon wants to return to just a simple life and the only person he hopes to have that life with is Betty. But with her being the reincarnation of Golb is a difficult task in universal proportions and him trying to open a portal will bring dire consequences to the universe as a whole.

  • @aidanquinn2282
    @aidanquinn2282 Рік тому +2

    I didn't think about it while watching but fin does act a bit like his dad with the wink and using Simon as bait.

  • @vinegarkid1211
    @vinegarkid1211 Рік тому +2

    Has anyone else noticed that Finn’s robot arm changed after when he first appeared at the bar. Kinda bothered me but the episode was still incredible

  • @benzopf
    @benzopf Рік тому +2

    I absolutely loved this episode, but one thing has been bugging me a lot that no one seems to be talking about it. By the end of AT, Finn seemed to have become somewhat of a pacifist who didn’t enjoy senseless killing so seeing him brutally kill two monsters in this rather than just trying to subdue them made me really sad. I at least like that after killing the sea monster Finn paid his respects but the way he killed the bear and even attempted to coax Simon into killing it just seemed out of character to me.

    • @SonicmaniaVideos
      @SonicmaniaVideos Рік тому +1

      Finn's development was him realizing he didn't have to choose violence first if there was a peaceful alternative...
      That development is unrelated to killing a monster for food and killing another monster to protect a friend, even unrelated to the idea that Finn's using Adventures to cope with Jake's death...it was entirely unlikely he was going to stop killing violent monsters. This is still Ooo, and stuff like this just exists.

  • @ghostsurfer23
    @ghostsurfer23 Рік тому +2

    Your reviews are gonna be some of my most hotly-anticipated videos over the next few weeks :)

  • @prasmahendra4172
    @prasmahendra4172 Рік тому +6

    Finn somehow looks and behave like his human father

  • @jjgatorfan247
    @jjgatorfan247 Рік тому +1

    You are so GOATed, and your analysis constantly blows my mind. Glad to have you back

  • @VictoriaCristinaDosSantosLage
    @VictoriaCristinaDosSantosLage Рік тому +1

    PLEASEEEEEE KEEP THESE COMINGGGGGGGGG, i'm already so excited to see your review about the prismo episode sdknndsjknsdjkds dang it

  • @elistrations
    @elistrations Рік тому +1

    he sounds so happy to have these episodes to review and i love it

  • @snekramen6094
    @snekramen6094 Рік тому +7

    It's so fun having you and AT back! I loved the new episodes and loved hearing your opinions of them

  • @chailattemhmm
    @chailattemhmm 9 місяців тому

    Didn't know until someone else told me but Tom Kelly being Simon's voice actor is also so cool! I love the way he portrayed him and having more characters to associate with him besides "classic spongebob" really broadens his voice to me when it's coming out of an old man instead of a young sponge

  • @scribbleshrimp
    @scribbleshrimp Рік тому +1

    Great review! Excited to see you explore the new episodes once they come out

  • @squigglydickley1851
    @squigglydickley1851 Рік тому +2

    Simon unable to let go seems very much Chips and Ice Cream energy

  • @carloss7246
    @carloss7246 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for making vids. I swear i enjoy the episodes more after hearing you talk about them. Keep k*lling it ❤

  • @_EggsBenedict
    @_EggsBenedict Рік тому +1

    THE KING OF AT COMMENTARY IS BACK!!!

  • @EEEEEEEEEEEEEEE737
    @EEEEEEEEEEEEEEE737 Рік тому +2

    I just wanted to watch Finn 2 and cat Jake smacking some evil like the old times

  • @FoxofGold
    @FoxofGold 11 місяців тому

    Could you do a mega breakdown of the miniseries as a whole? No worries if not, i just remember how comforting it was to watch the Stakes miniseries mega review over and over again back in the day

  • @OfficialToddStams
    @OfficialToddStams Рік тому

    Thank you for always being with us, Elk❤

  • @yummyquack4571
    @yummyquack4571 Рік тому +3

    Why does no one mention how finn loses more of his arm as the episode goes on

  • @nelson-is2pm
    @nelson-is2pm Рік тому +1

    You are back ❤❤❤❤❤❤ I missed your videos so much love from Chile 🇨🇱 ❤️

  • @elishatea
    @elishatea Рік тому

    Just wanna say it's been nice having you back around consistently for this Adventure Time comeback! I always love your commentary and perspective.

  • @EsmeSoSa26
    @EsmeSoSa26 10 місяців тому

    My theory on why TV was hanging with Finn is that when Jake died Finn took it REALLY bad, and Jake's children and grandchildren take turns to hang out with him, keep him company and making sure he's ok.
    I'd love to see a future series where Finn takes KKW on an adventure

  • @feelgoodink5005
    @feelgoodink5005 Рік тому +1

    No pressure but it's awesome to have the consistent uploads from you 😎

  • @akivajacobs7090
    @akivajacobs7090 Рік тому +6

    Do you think theres some parallel to Simon being nudged about his past work, even though hes in a completely different place now, and the creators of Adventure Time being nudged to continue even though the series has been concluded a while ago now?

    • @willowmunch737
      @willowmunch737 Рік тому

      Doubt it. Judging by how this spinoff is turning out (full of love and care for the world of Ooo) and the fact that Muto has specifically stated he wants more spinoffs, I don't think anyone is forcing them to do this.

  • @princeami7344
    @princeami7344 Рік тому +1

    The ritual Simon tries to do is the same one Magicwoman was doing with Normalman when she summoned Golb in the finale

  • @oprazebb
    @oprazebb Рік тому +1

    Yo just wanna say, you are one of my big fav youtubers
    And im really happy and proud that youve been putting these out consistently :)

  • @spirto1279
    @spirto1279 Рік тому +2

    In Memory of a Memory, Marceline takes off one of the buttons from her dress to fix hambo's eye, the intro scene could be a reference?

  • @moritzlinden7169
    @moritzlinden7169 Рік тому +3

    I kinda want to see evil Choose Goose in action. What evil things did he do and how did he end up in that cage? Did Finn fight him? That could be hilarious.

  • @dantevalehuntik28
    @dantevalehuntik28 Рік тому +1

    I really hope you'll make videos discussing all those details, i love that kinda content from you

  • @Parzivle
    @Parzivle Рік тому +2

    10:52 holy fuck the synths finally caught up with old Nicky valentine

  • @RZPlushMarioBroz14
    @RZPlushMarioBroz14 11 місяців тому

    I remember you said in a previous video that Finn's arm was cut off all the way up his arm, but this episode kinda clears that up as we can see that one of Finn's mechanical arms didn't have it slide up all the way up his arm, and then we can see the arm in 9:09 go all the way up his arm, so you were actually right the first time you said it was just a slide-on.

    • @uncivilizedelk
      @uncivilizedelk  11 місяців тому +1

      So in "Together Again," it looked like the prosthetic was in place of his humerus bone rather than over it, but that may have been unintended by the creators. In this episode, it slides on and you can actually see Finn's sleeve tucked into the prosthetic near the armpit in one scene, but that doesn't clear up the deal in "Together Again" for me at all, lol. The idea that Finn lost more of his arm much later in life is dumb but also appealing in a wacky way to me.

  • @BrandonJames2016
    @BrandonJames2016 Рік тому +1

    It was such a gag seeing choose goose cause I was never expecting that plot line to ever come back.

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    @deltaforcegamingcorp.2232 Рік тому

    Babe babe wake up a new Uncivilized elk video just dropped