1988 Olympics Women’s Gymnastics - All Around Final - complete

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  • The classic battle between Elena Shushunova and Daniela Silivas from the 1988 Olympics in Seoul, Korea. Svetlana Boginskaya won bronze, and Brandy Johnson was the top American in 10th.
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  • @amirsanchez8193
    @amirsanchez8193 3 роки тому +38

    The most intense duel in the history of women's gymnastic. The floor routine from Daniela was a 10+. Besides the final scores, both represented a duel of artistry & grace versus technicality & precision. Both were winners!

  • @JennaLeigh
    @JennaLeigh 2 роки тому +28

    Daniela Silivas was so ahead of her time then! We're STILL seeing ladies compete her eponymous "Silivas" FX skill- the incredible double twisting double salto tucked!

    • @patpat446
      @patpat446 3 місяці тому

      Done first by Alevtina Prakhina at the Europeans in 1987.

  • @coltonhoward6611
    @coltonhoward6611 3 роки тому +41

    A great battle between silivas and shushunova

  • @juanantoniomoreno3409
    @juanantoniomoreno3409 Рік тому +15

    "She is very attractive 15 yo".... My Gawd, that was horrible to listen
    .

    • @chicklit8604
      @chicklit8604 2 місяці тому +1

      Bonginskaya she is so pretty.

  • @oldskoolmedia2264
    @oldskoolmedia2264 2 роки тому +13

    RIP Elena Shushunova

  • @lucianjpf1637
    @lucianjpf1637 3 роки тому +20

    I liked Shushunova and Silivas. They were so great 😃

    • @user-pz8lf2fr8x
      @user-pz8lf2fr8x 2 роки тому +1

      Прическа,не,тачу,силиваш,она,ведь,молода,для,таких,причёсок,

  • @OneWhoLivesThere
    @OneWhoLivesThere 3 роки тому +5

    Any time I see a gymnast start running I get all excited because I know that my jaw is about to drop. I'm not much for watching most "sports," but gymnastics never get old!

  • @joannayeo9545
    @joannayeo9545 3 роки тому +19

    So graceful and so beautiful, I wouldn't want to choose one over the other. Thank you for the upload x

  • @davewilson3584
    @davewilson3584 Рік тому +4

    just watched my original VHS tape incredibule depth below the two on top RIP Elena Shushunova

  • @dougraddi908
    @dougraddi908 3 роки тому +11

    Great competition between Silivas and Shushunova

  • @user-vy8dl1iz2q
    @user-vy8dl1iz2q 3 роки тому +14

    Советская школа гимнастики лучшая в мире!

    • @dennandrian9854
      @dennandrian9854 2 роки тому +2

      Benar

    • @saragrant9749
      @saragrant9749 Місяць тому

      The best at horrible abuse, influencing scores in their favor, making a mockery of the sport and its integrity in terms of equal treatment of athletes? Absolutely.

  • @nathancoleman7235
    @nathancoleman7235 Рік тому +6

    It was great great having Mary Lou's commentary here(the 'wonder woman' of 1984).I miss the 1980s!

  • @lucianjpf1637
    @lucianjpf1637 3 роки тому +43

    I am sad to know that the best Russian gymnast of the 1988 Olympics died at the age of 49 because of acute pneumonia. she was a star : Yelena Shushunova

    • @daisyw2085
      @daisyw2085 2 роки тому +7

      She is my favorite of all times besides Nadia .. so sad she left us that young, will never be forgotten, a true gymnastic Queen 👸!

    • @JustJason1977
      @JustJason1977 Рік тому +4

      OH MY GOD! I didn't know that! Jeez... Rest peacefully my dear :(

    • @saragrant9749
      @saragrant9749 3 місяці тому +1

      Damn, it just proves you never know when you’re going to go.

    • @alicemcfarlane9717
      @alicemcfarlane9717 25 днів тому

      Apparently, her life was very sad & empty after the Olympics. After dedicating her entire life to gymnastics, there was nowhere left to go.

  • @patriziapace4169
    @patriziapace4169 2 роки тому +16

    These routines were about difficulty and agility, now they are about difficulty and power. No grace left.

  • @cherrylove9142
    @cherrylove9142 2 роки тому +6

    Daniela Silivas so amazing and powerful ahead of her time , 2022 and gymnasts still use her moves

  • @johneescobar8652
    @johneescobar8652 3 роки тому +8

    gracias x subir el mejor duelo de la historia de la gimnasia

  • @evanwilliams6406
    @evanwilliams6406 3 роки тому +6

    I liked this style because they let the pictures tell the story.

  • @MissLilRedRooster
    @MissLilRedRooster 2 роки тому +8

    "Let's not forget this very attractive 15 year-old.."
    🤢

    • @ChloeVonTrapp
      @ChloeVonTrapp Рік тому +3

      Came here for this comment. What a creep!

  • @belladingdong3396
    @belladingdong3396 3 роки тому +11

    Silivas was such a tumbling goddess. She is perfection. I think she deserved that 10 on floor.

  • @kreul8736
    @kreul8736 3 роки тому +10

    thank you for uploading ! Is Oksana Omelianchik @11.02?

    • @kentiemacgymnastics9885
      @kentiemacgymnastics9885  3 роки тому +4

      It sure is! She was the alternate for the team. In some other parts of the meet, you can see her interacting with the team on the floor.

  • @jennysheets
    @jennysheets 3 роки тому +21

    RIP Elana S.

  • @WendieMorgan
    @WendieMorgan 2 роки тому +11

    Mary Lou Retton’s contribution to commentary gets a 0.

    • @lacypierce6487
      @lacypierce6487 2 місяці тому

      She didn’t even contribute that much, either.

    • @markb7163
      @markb7163 27 днів тому

      Agreed...can't stand listening to her! Like nails on a chalkboard!

  • @jirikyeo
    @jirikyeo 3 роки тому +29

    Silivas was completely underscored by Nellie on vault. A 9.8? Lol

    • @chitownlokito
      @chitownlokito 3 роки тому +4

      Did you see that too? Lol. Sha was hating and knew Sikivas was going to win so shendid what it has been done a lot by the Russian federation

    • @amandine2239
      @amandine2239 2 роки тому +6

      @@chitownlokito To obtain the final mark the highest and lowest scores are droped. So Kim’s score didnt count.

    • @cullerjones
      @cullerjones 4 місяці тому

      Her vaulting is garbage. Honestly that is the score she deserved from all the judges. If an American or Bulgarian did that same vault they get a 9.7 at best. If the Soviet judge didn't stupidly give a higher score to the 2nd vault which was even worse, there wouldn't be anything to talk about.
      Lastly even if Nellie gave the same generous 9.9 two other judges also gave, the score of 9.95 is still the same. Nothing changes.

    • @MagicalMukhina
      @MagicalMukhina 4 місяці тому

      Agreed - Silivas was underscored - but then not really a surprise as Nellie was not a woman of integrity (in my view!)

    • @thesovgc
      @thesovgc Місяць тому

      Nelli is such an icon for such an unabashed attempt at cheating 😍

  • @quickthinker7582
    @quickthinker7582 2 роки тому +3

    Why there was Romanian judge and no Russian judge???? But still good karma struck to Elena she won the all round champ.

  • @adrianj.k.4032
    @adrianj.k.4032 3 роки тому +7

    Bogi was so excellent here. I wish she was competing at 1984 or 1992 level instead, she'd have an easier go for gold. Here unless Silivas or Shushunova fell flat on their face (which was insanely unlikely), she'd always be third.

    • @christineharrelson4831
      @christineharrelson4831 3 роки тому +2

      Bogi was 11 in 1984 and not even a senior yet.

    • @adrianj.k.4032
      @adrianj.k.4032 3 роки тому +2

      @@christineharrelson4831 I said 1984 or 1992 level, not literally in 1984. Had the level of competition not as high as 1988 she would’ve had a better shot at gold.

    • @volodymyrdolia6544
      @volodymyrdolia6544 2 роки тому +1

      At 1984 level for sure, but even in her prime Bogi didn't have the difficulty to compete with both Miller and Gutsu. Gymnasts were throwing double layouts on Floor and full-in on Beam. And Gutsu's beam was a decade ahead of her time. So not a single chance for Boginskaya, except big falls from several competitors.

  • @parafan22
    @parafan22 3 роки тому +46

    All around final featuring two gymnast 😂

    • @Cmc995
      @Cmc995 5 днів тому

      Right, i wonder if there is any other broadcast that shows more of the gymnasts 😅🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @hazelabdrabbo9393
    @hazelabdrabbo9393 2 роки тому +2

    So beautiful 👏🏻both deserve the gold medal 🥇 it was so close battle between both girls

  • @gorrillagardening3692
    @gorrillagardening3692 5 місяців тому +2

    Did Shushunova ever speak of her gymnastic career? Did her teammates speak of training/competing with her? I've never heard anything.

    • @alicemcfarlane9717
      @alicemcfarlane9717 25 днів тому

      Elena had a very sad, unhappy existence after gymnastics. The Soviet system kept her alcoholic decline very hushed up. However, her early demise should speak for itself. There simply wasn't anything left for her after gymnastics. It's a common plight for elite athletes: life AFTER.

  • @bryanfuerst3277
    @bryanfuerst3277 2 роки тому +3

    Wait sorry how did Yelena’s beam routine get 2 10s? Did I read that wrong?

  • @giuseppericci516
    @giuseppericci516 12 днів тому

    11:52. I was so impressed when I saw this at the time. Shushunova was a great champion. RIP 🙏

  • @alicemcfarlane9717
    @alicemcfarlane9717 25 днів тому

    God, I miss the 80s... 😢

  • @masonlovesroblox
    @masonlovesroblox 2 роки тому +5

    shushunova queen

  • @WittleHokie
    @WittleHokie 3 роки тому +1

    Who was the male athlete about to be interviewed at 46:11?

  • @karlomorosin7880
    @karlomorosin7880 2 роки тому +9

    It was the time of pleiad of excellent gymnasts: Shoushounova, Boginskaya, Silivas, Dobre, Szabo, Henrietta Onodi, Dörte Thümmler, Potorac, Dagmar Kersten; in male events: Artemov, Bilozerchev, Liukin (father of Nastia Liukin), Andreas Wecker, Yuko Iketani, Marius Gherman, Yuri Cecchi... Today we have no big name, except Simone Biles, Nile Wilson, Igor Radivilov and Sam Mikulak.

    • @saragrant9749
      @saragrant9749 Рік тому

      It was the time of grossly biased judging. 10’s being thrown for completely undeserving routines, others being ridiculously underscored to keep them out of a medal. Good riddance to that time.

    • @kameliehagen
      @kameliehagen 5 місяців тому +1

      Et Mustafina ?????? Elle a fait ce que Biles ne fera jamais : être première
      des qualifications por le AA et les 4 finales

    • @saragrant9749
      @saragrant9749 Місяць тому

      @@kameliehagenand how many GOLD medals did she win? Right, ONE. Simone won THREE in one Olympics on her own! Simone doesn’t have to qualify first in every event, she makes sure it counts at the RIGHT time.

  • @laetitiarault4352
    @laetitiarault4352 2 місяці тому +1

    So sad! I remember when she was young! But never forget Daniela ❤

    • @saragrant9749
      @saragrant9749 Місяць тому

      Right? 49 is too damn young, but it just shows you never know when your time will come.

    • @alicemcfarlane9717
      @alicemcfarlane9717 25 днів тому

      ​@saragrant9749 Yelena died young because she lacked an exit strategy. It was a familiar tale for many elite Soviet gymnasts... indeed, for many elite athletes full stop. Beyond coaching & commentating, there really werent that many options for a happy, fulfilling life after gymnastics. It was (& still is) the cost of complete dedication.

  • @Momofoku
    @Momofoku 3 роки тому +11

    Silivas should have won or results were tied. It was neli kim from USSR gave a 9.8 to silivas in the vault. Look at what happened in the individual apparatus finals, silivas got 3 golds... lol

    • @grumpyduck5712
      @grumpyduck5712 2 роки тому +10

      Nelli was petty for giving Silivas a 9.8, but her score wasn't counted there. Out of the six judges, the highest and lowest scores were eliminated and the middle four was rounded up, which gave Silivas her score.
      Still, she should've won.

    • @cullerjones
      @cullerjones 4 місяці тому +4

      @@grumpyduck5712 She didn't deserve to win. 9.95 is too high for her on vault. And she messed up beam, where she should have an advantage on Shushunova but blew it this day. Bela Karolyi who LOVES Silivas, and is her former coach, even said "she made 3 major wobbles on beam in front of the whole world and deserved a 9.8 max. Her 9.9 was a disgrace." Nuff said.

  • @mikaroxana6062
    @mikaroxana6062 3 роки тому +13

    Silivas the best!!!😍😍😍

  • @manogiu
    @manogiu 5 місяців тому

    Alguns jurados davam nota 10 mesmo com erros visíveis. A saída d trave da shushunova por exemplo

  • @user-vy8dl1iz2q
    @user-vy8dl1iz2q 3 роки тому +8

    Шушунова лучшая!Однозначно!

    • @user-ch6le5cj6p
      @user-ch6le5cj6p 2 роки тому +2

      У Шушуновой вольные сложнее, элемент даже назван ее именем, который она тогда показала

    • @rosine8528
      @rosine8528 2 роки тому

      Nope

    • @paulagiliberto7386
      @paulagiliberto7386 2 роки тому

      I don't think so

  • @catiaazevedo6205
    @catiaazevedo6205 3 роки тому +20

    With the current scoring code, shushunova would have won with a huge advantage.

  • @user-zi6zr9st5t
    @user-zi6zr9st5t 2 роки тому

    Duo rivalries usr elena shushunova and svetlana boginskaya. And roumania daniela silivas with aurelia dobre.

  • @patriciawilcox4290
    @patriciawilcox4290 3 місяці тому

    It was

  • @tracylatak2970
    @tracylatak2970 3 роки тому +1

    This is the wor see e coverage of any gymnastics event they barely showed any routines

  • @davidnamaste3124
    @davidnamaste3124 Місяць тому

    Nelli Kim , I always admired your gymnastic and your commitment to gymnastic as a judge. I always loved 1988 olympic they made me fall in love with the sport. But honestly I never watch carefully... you gave a 9.8 to her first vault to make sure she would not have eaten then give a 9.9 to a less perfect one!!! shame on you. hope to this day you feel ashamed to crushed the dream ... I understand it was surely not easy probably pressed bu higher authority but honestly hope you can apology one day

  • @garrigproductions
    @garrigproductions 3 роки тому +10

    Silivas best ever!...

  • @patpat446
    @patpat446 3 місяці тому +1

    Damn, the Romanians were trying to freak out Shushunova during her vault. That was kinda cheap.

  • @nancyvargas8338
    @nancyvargas8338 3 роки тому +8

    Yelena Shushunova ,Por siempre Grande!!! Admirable tu fuerza en cada una de tus rutinas,a casi 2 años de tu partida , dejaste huella imborrable !!! Bendiciones 🙏 para tí,dónde quiera te encuentres.✨👌 Gracias hermosa Yelena Shushunova ✨👍🌹👏👏👏👏🌹👏👏👏🌹👏👏❤️

  • @user-it7ro9uh1r
    @user-it7ro9uh1r 2 роки тому +1

    Reyna silivas

  • @paulouk83
    @paulouk83 3 роки тому +7

    Nelli kim couldn't really be more blatant could she 9.8 I think not

  • @ilovecake1980
    @ilovecake1980 3 роки тому +15

    I love Silivas, she is more artistic and remarkable! She just a slight lost, otherwise she could’ve won...

  • @Cmc995
    @Cmc995 5 днів тому

    Shushunova was beautiful and awesome but am I the only one who thinks Silivas should've have it? Nellie Kim being a judge and giving Silivas a 9.8 was a conflict of interest and we've seen how slithery nellie can be

  • @JustJason1977
    @JustJason1977 Рік тому +2

    Svetlana Boginskaya, Simone Biles, Daniella Silivas....BEST GYMNASTS EVER!

  • @chriscruciat2469
    @chriscruciat2469 2 роки тому +9

    9.8 from the Soviet judge for Silivas on the vault. Enough said…😤

    • @TheMajesticice01
      @TheMajesticice01 2 роки тому +5

      She was definitely a hater! Her second vault she gave her a higher score

    • @masonlovesroblox
      @masonlovesroblox 9 місяців тому +3

      it was on purpose. nellie kim wanted shushunova to win. it was obvious, that first vault was 9.9 MINIMUM.

    • @cullerjones
      @cullerjones 4 місяці тому

      Her vaulting is garbage. Honestly that is the score she deserved from all the judges. If an American or Bulgarian did that same vault they get a 9.7 at best. If the Soviet judge didn't stupidly give a higher score to the 2nd vault which was even worse, there wouldn't be anything to talk about.

    • @cullerjones
      @cullerjones 4 місяці тому +1

      @@masonlovesroblox If a Bulgarian or American did that vault they would get a 9.7 max. It was Silivas's very best, but she isn't a good vaulter. Her vault scores are only by her name, just like Shushunova's beam scores to some extent.

    • @davidnamaste3124
      @davidnamaste3124 Місяць тому

      @@TheMajesticice01 ridiculous

  • @denisripeanu3325
    @denisripeanu3325 3 роки тому +7

    En el ultimo aparato , no me pareció un 10 para shushunova .....

    • @batifay2830
      @batifay2830 3 роки тому +2

      y Silivas en asimetricas tampoco, que cae flexionada y los pies separados.

    • @denisripeanu3325
      @denisripeanu3325 3 роки тому +3

      @@batifay2830 y que quierias ...que se cae con los pies rectos , o que...???....tu sabes de que estas hablando !!??

    • @batifay2830
      @batifay2830 3 роки тому

      @@denisripeanu3325 pues sí, sí sé de lo que hablo.

    • @denisripeanu3325
      @denisripeanu3325 3 роки тому +3

      @@batifay2830 pues , yo diria que NO , tras leer tu comentario......mi opinión!!!

    • @beanovofilgueira1584
      @beanovofilgueira1584 2 роки тому +1

      Sólo tienes que ver cómo Silvas baja la cabeza ,al ver el salto , sabía que tenía el 10 antes de dárselo

  • @mateofesrivlaes7576
    @mateofesrivlaes7576 Рік тому +4

    i didn.t see any battle. silivas absolutely superior to shoushunova who had the support of the jugdes such as Nelly Kim kim ( she was under comnaneci)

  • @bbatjargal1549
    @bbatjargal1549 Рік тому +2

    The Big Red Machine - the Soviet Union Team's nick name!

  • @beambreaker
    @beambreaker 2 роки тому +3

    God is there any other gymnasts that were at these Olympics? How unfair to the others who works so hard.

  • @paulagiliberto7386
    @paulagiliberto7386 2 роки тому +1

    Queen Silivas 👑 y luego el resto

  • @denisripeanu3325
    @denisripeanu3325 3 роки тому +2

    Como en cualquier cosa....el político pasa por encima de todo.......10 significa perfección.....aqui se han dado notas de 10 ...pero de perfección NADA.
    MI OPINIÓN

  • @chitownlokito
    @chitownlokito 3 роки тому +15

    Silivas should had won. RUSSIA back then had power over the scores but this was definitely Silivas Good medal.
    Just like Zsabo should had won over Mary Lou. They were both were over scored. Yeah Mary Lou, zsabo took one step and you took 20.
    The Romania’s were the true winners..🥇

  • @chitownlokito
    @chitownlokito 7 днів тому

    Fu Kim, fu Elena and fu Mary Lou. All over scored. The Gold was for Silivas. The a Russian were corrupted still at that time.

  • @ajibumiserpongdamai1519
    @ajibumiserpongdamai1519 3 роки тому +12

    Shusunova such like robot

    • @juarezpessoa1398
      @juarezpessoa1398 3 роки тому +16

      Shoushouna is really an Diva e deserved the win.

  • @SDonnini82
    @SDonnini82 2 роки тому +3

    USSR and the power of dopping

  • @nipaipo36100
    @nipaipo36100 3 роки тому +1

    les juges donnaient trop de 10 à l epoque c etait n importe quoi

    • @Thebraids
      @Thebraids 3 роки тому +1

      Effectivement, et les juges favorisaient certaines nations (l'URSS, la Roumanie et la RDA). Cela ne favorisait pas la crédibilité du sport.

  • @tayshaquay
    @tayshaquay 3 роки тому +9

    MLR is so annoying talking about herself constantly ughhhhhh

  • @randomedits7325
    @randomedits7325 Рік тому +4

    daniela was robbed

    • @unknown-lf6zx
      @unknown-lf6zx 4 місяці тому

      She was amazing! They both were but she’ll always be my favorite gymnast! Gurl even rocked a perm and a robot move!

  • @Ire308
    @Ire308 5 місяців тому +1

    No offense to Elena Shushnova's memory, but I think Daniela Silivas was robbed. I thought so when I watched this event live back in 1988 and still think so today.