The Armored Car isn't designed to be any 'kinda "troop transporter". Judging by the way it launches drones out it's hatch in The New Order, I'm convinced it's primarily for that purpose over all-else, a drone-deployment platform. (Also although they aren't used in-game, there's hatches across the front body I imagine the drivers could look out of.)
the gun on the VC wasen't sideways so it could fit, it was sideways so the loader had an easier time loading it, the actuall thing the brits did to fit the 17pndr on the sherman was to remove the radio, but it in a box on the outside and carve a hole for the crew to operate it from the inside, because all they needed was *extra* space, because the gun *could* fit in the turret, the only problem was that the recoil would hit the back of it
@@12isaac00 well no gun depression was also kinda common on German tanks like Panther, Tiger, King Tiger, Ferdinand, Stug, Hetzer, and a bunch of others. British and Americans had better gun depression and the Sherman was pretty good depending on what gun was mounted. The Firefly also didn't have such great gun depression as the gun internally took up a bunch of room.
With the poll a Valkyria Chronicles tank discussion seems unlikeley, but I am andamant that those are some interesting tanks to talk about. They are pretty good at resembling functional tanks. Anyway that fake Puma looks more like it has atleast double 5cm guns based on how large that entire vehicle is.
Radiators are pratically impervious to small arms fire, it would be interesting to note that as the germans had issues on the eastern front with their rear armor against soviet anti-tank rifles, the same would potentially apply to valkyria in terms of radiator exposure.
Well, we all knew they had them, we just never noticed them and expected them to be more then a background info. And that's only in regards to new series. Even 2009's game had Tiger and... well, let's call it a SturmMaus.
@@TheArklyte I remember in the video just before when the narrator was talking about the Sherman and went to a clip, with BJ on the Massive wheel cycle, driving past the old U.S Army equipment, they were all standard from the war, but the trucks, jeeps and the tanks have been so heavily modified to keep up with the German war machine until they finally lost.
The Shermans only show up in passing. Literally. There are lines of them and other US Army vehicles abandoned along a rural Texas road in a cutscene in The New Colossus. The photo for the nuclear powered nazi tank is part of a letter you can find as a collactable in The New Order.
Its not historicaly innacurate just look at all the early war american tanks, just look at the early stuarts that had up to 4 machine guns on a man tank.
Americans were in the cult of the machine gun at the time, not the most ridiculous thing. Not to mention it can prove still useful if supporting infantry
The very first M4 Shermans had two machineguns bolted into the hull that the driver could fire on top of the hull gun, the .30 coax, and the. 50 roof gun.
@один день мама monowheel, yep, stupid name, but it isn't very practical anyway, some people did reproduce it nowdays, but still kind odd and unpractical.
Isn't even that impossible. In the 6day war the Israelis used Panter IV and some of them might get back on the battlefield und a ISIS command. And they would build such a contraption.
5:27 That looks a hell of a lot bigger than a 90mm... maybe they mounted a howitzer gun onto the turret or made a long barreled variant of the 105mm gun that the U.S. already had.
Dom Chubs yeah, the US did add a 105mm on their Sherman's at some point but they also made the turret bigger so the crew could still have space, this one just looks like the regular Sherman turret with more curves
@Drunk Pharaoh The allies didn't have that on their tanks, they only had the short barreled 105mm howitzer. I'm saying either the germans added their own full length howitzer gun onto the turret or made a long variant of the american 105mm.
No a 105mm would require a much bigger turret mantle e.g the abrams and unless your talking about artillery, the americanos did not have a long barreled 105 on a tank just a short barreled one
Removing the unity sight from the Sherman is the biggest crime in the best Tank designs I've ever seen. Any Tankers need those in case you don't wanna have a cupola with only Vision ports but without Periscopes will results having blind sights.
We might be just watching this video going “interesting designs”, but in other universe some of us might be watching this video while thinking “that’s how we disable enemy vehicles”
0:48 Just imagine this giant ten wheeled monster rolling up, with two big ass guns at the front and thinking you're gonna be in for one hell of a fight. Only for one little laser drone to pop out of it and... That's it...
i think the double sprocket on the german (those geared wheels) that you said "connected to nothing" actually work that way: the forward one is connected to the transmission, while the aft one is connected to the tracks, as it seems that they aren't in line with the hull.
Just to improve on the accessibility of the less engineering side of youtube-adding highlights or circles to the parts on the tank that you’re referring to would help us understand what you’re talking about. Just a thought.
The whole thing with wolfenstein is that the vehicles (and enemies) are meant to be intimidating. For example The London Monitor (or Baltisches Auge) cost effective, not at all, would it make me scared to all hell if I saw that thing coming at me, very much so.
Very true, the nazi vehicles are all bulky and absolutely gigantic, meanwhile the, for example, updated sherman, is just an upgraded tank because it's meant to be effective
Honestly I'm surprised the rebels don't countine to use old allied equipment considering it's just as good if not better then alot of the cold war Nazi equipment.
Hey! Firstly awesome work on this video! Good points on all of it, but if I may suggest, I think the armored car more closely resembles the more obscure Sd.Kfz 231 8 rad. The angles, frontal additions, raised turret, and wheel housings resemble it more. I know they're both very closely related however, and it's also quite pretentious to point out something minute on such an old video about a fictional vehicle, but hey thought I'd offer that take. Regardless keep up the great work! Your vids are always entertaining!
@@Spookston it could pen a panther with HEAT shell the 105mm. At least according to field accounts and war thunder. So i really question why not just make the howitzer sherman. More he filler than a 75mm. Yes lower velocity but still a higher pen.
@@10pt16 thing is, with an artillery vehicle the crew does not need to be comfortable. They just load the gun, fire it and go about their day out of direct enemy fire. In combat, however, a severely stressed out crew will not be too happy with the lack of space inside the vehicle. The biggest limitation to fitting an oversized gun into a tank is crew space inside
@@cldus7442 with 105mm mounted sherman the breach was smaller than the 75mm's actually. The shells were larger but the breach wasnt as long and had a tighter block that didn't hinder as much space as the 75mm m3 guns did. Unless war thunder which did research on the vehicles is lying the 105mm would've been even more comfortable than the 75mm for the crew
I did some research on tanks and did find stuff about the infantry telephone. The US did use it in WWII in Western Europe in 1944. However, some units found it to be ineffective and that having the commander on foot with the infantry to be a better way to communicate. Great Video by the way.
Went through the comments and nobody appreciates the nostalgic Halo 3 ODST music at the end. Wast expecting childhood memories and flash backs at the end of this but thanks :)
4:53 the grunt phone was used in the pacific theater as early as...the battle for Bougainville...(i think) but definitely before the retaking of the Philippines. Im not sure when grunt phones were introduced into the ETO, but i imagine it came along as upgraded shermans started arriving in theater.
Infantry telephone began being mounted almost as soon as they'd gotten off the beach in Normandy but they weren't part of the Sherman design, they were always just field modifications. I think that's what he means that they weren't officially part of the design.
i honestly don't think they are supposed to deploy out of anywhere, since it doesn't even look like an APC, and the puma wasn't an APC people get in/out through the top of the turret or whatever
Actually interesting trivia, we started being able to put plug-ins to talk to Tank crews in mid 1944, due to the issues we encountered in the Hedgerow country in Normandy. So it looks different, but it's accurate. The 90 mm guns were definitely accurate too, they shoehorned a 105 mm long barreled gun into a similar looking turret in the legendary Super Shermans that Israel used.
Should really do a video like this on Valkyria Chronicles 1 & 4's tank designs. They're surprisingly good, but mostly because they're based off real tanks but with some flare. VC 4's main tank the Hofen is basically a M4 Sherman, as you progress and upgrade it, it turns pretty much into a M4A3E8 but with extra armor plating welded on. VC 1's main tank eventually turns into a Tiger II with a shorter barrel gun.
"Portholes so the men can shoot out." I think having portholes for IFVs is a stupid idea. Like, it already has a cannon. Why in the fuck anyone would want to make the cargo they're supposed to protect more vulnerable is beyond me.
Actually, Swedish IFV (CV90) has hatches that the Swedish troops often shoot out off, and they are not alone in this either since they have Tank support and other supporting Elements, the Germans did this in Ww2 as well, where Panzergrenadiers would shoot out of their Half-tracks, so there is the basis for it historically and in the modern-day with the Swedish forces. During Operation Desert Storm the M2 Bradley also has 6 firing ports. I'm not saying the M2s firing ports were really good, but, there is a basis for it in reality. But given the setting of Wolfenstein, I don't think the developers were aiming for realism here. Ironically, the firing ports were most useful in the M3 Cavalry variant of the Bradley, which reduces the number of passengers down to two soldiers acting as dismounted scouts, facing the rear doors and using the rear-firing ports; the rest of the compartment was delegated to storing additional ordnance like TOW missiles and 25mm shells. This removal of the original six passengers meant the internal space was reconfigured to allow for both more carrying capacity as well as redesigning the seats. As for the firing ports’ usefulness, the only useful role was for suppression, since precision fire was not possible within the confines of a moving vehicle nor would the periscopes and lack of weapon sights allowed for it; the magazine size also meant you might as well use the main gun or dismount and trust your luck with your actual rifle. It should be noted that firing ports were used in the contemporary Marder and BMP-1 designs, and it is not surprising that, given that these two vehicles fell away from firing port use, the Bradley did as well. The tactical doctrine made the use of firing small arms within a large armed moving vehicle made little contribution. They still have M231s stowed in Bradleys, though.
Firing ports also don't have to be very big either, just big enough to fire a rifle's barrel out of. Like in the M2 Bradley. So in reality it does not affect the survivability of the vehicle by much.
The shell of the 90mm is much longer. It's about length, not width. The 105 was a howitzer, so it didn't need a lot of propellent and it didn't need to have a quick reload time.
@@Spookston What about the Israeli Sherman M-51? Proper 105mm. Sure those have the bigger turret of the 76mm shermans but that doesn't mean that you can't fit a 90mm into the wolfenstein sherman turret with some creativity.
@@Annozocker15 It's not the question whether you can fit it, but if you can make it ergonomically fit well enough, no use in a gun that takes up all of the turret space. The 75 turrets were already stretching their limits with the 17pdr, so i doubt a 90mm could fit in nicely. But hey, the barrel might just be for guiding rockets, nobody talked about what it fired...
@@Spookston No they used the standard T23 Turrets of the 76mm shermans and the gun was the modified french 105mm modelé f1 from the amx30 which was shortened to 44 caliber lengths instead of 56.
Top exit and no shooting ports fit nicely. The Kätzchen APC concept and the pist war HS-30 both used them. The rear door om M3 and 251 where also not the main exit for fast exit. Modern designs with firing port etc. are BMP1 and past mostly
The gun barrel is an Oddball modificaiton he came up with the idea of putting a tube over the standard gun barrell on his shermans to make it look like they had a much larger gun
@@savage7882 Leman Russ is too high, has a fixed suspension, it's threads are a bit thin and that's about it. They look fucking rad tho, can go on literally any fuel, have a diverse range of primary and support weapons, as the main tank of the galaxy-spanning empire should. The others are chonky and great, except for Malcadors, because they are outdated and plain hideous
@@theovoldjopus4272 The leman russ is actually one of the most horrible designs though. First of, its lower body is a 100% carbon copy of the first british tank in ww1, which had major issues with its armor and tracks. The russ's tracks are completely exposed meaning even an indirect hit can cripple the entire vehicle. It has barebones armor design and it slopes only on certain parts, meaning projectiles can penetrate it easilly, especially from the sides. Its cannon is completely off the center of mass and too big for it, meaning it would topple if it fired at an off angle or while moving. And its profile is massive to begin with, target practice for aircraft . Plus, crewing this thing would be a nightmare, it has four turrets and a very small space. Talking realistically of course. Warhammer has enough fluff to justify a few of what i wrote.
@@savage7882 Leman Russ is far from Mark 1. The first World War tanks had huge problems mainly because they were the first, and people couldn't really figure out how to make them and, most importantly, did not have the technology to allow for such machines to function properly. LRBT's tracks are usually protected at the top, and in case of urban fighting, usually also front-protected by the doser blades to clean the roads for infantry, Chimeras and other vehicles, should they follow. images.app.goo.gl/hQaz9LeUuTgKmZmTA Its front armor is sloped at a good angle, about 50° for both top and bottom parts. Side armor is a massive weakspot, but is necessary to fit additional sponsons, and even it is not easily penetrated, as it has a moderate thickness of plasteel behind it. It's cannon actually is surprisingly low-caliber, the standard one being 120mm. The thickness of the barrel comes from cooling systems and compensators, because the rounds use much more powerful fuceline as a chemical propellant. And even crewing it isn't that hard of a deal, because it has a crew of 4 men, or 6 with sponsons, but their places are not fully located inside of the hull and are installed with sponsons if necessary. They all are located in a tank the size of a Tiger, but taller, whilst actually being lighter, so it isn't that much of a target. Yeah, kind of cramped, but at the same time it's less than the crew of Tiger itself. Also, lascannon or heavy bolter installed in the front isn't actually a turret, but rather is more like hull-mounted MG, controlled indirectly by commander, driver or even main gunner if needed.
@@savage7882 I mean, the design is still really impractical, due to it being unchanged since like 1987, but it is not the levels of impracticality some people think it is. It would be cool, if Games Workshop could redesign it, but it most likely won't happen
a point could be made about the sherman's riveted turret being additional armor on top of the original sherman turret if it were to be built on top of a normal sherman, like what happened with multiple vehicles during WW2 (riveted armor on top of welded for captured/obsolete vehicles)
I think it would be more immersive if you had an arrow or something indicating what you're talking about during your pros and cons. It would be easier to follow along. Other than that, I'm glad youtube recommended your vids
I have to guess that the double idler at the back would mean it would be powered too? It makes no sense from where it is located but the pattern on the bigger one looks like a planetary drive wich is used to increase the torque output. Also maybe thats why there are suspension element on the too roller as a mean of adjusting the track tension
Some Sherman's during WWII had Infrantry telephones attached to the tank. There are many sources to verify this, the phones while experimental for the allies at that time were taken from designs first used by the Germans actually.
2:45 the door is not actually for troops, i played that sequence of wolfenstein myself and the APC or however you might call it actually releases multiple drones from that hatch, that attack the player
Not to Sure about the Wulf in Wolfenstien new order. But I remember the Wulf from wolfenstien 2009 having a Twin Barrel Turret and a Very E100 /E50 kind of style. But your right the Wulf from the Collectable for me anyway looks like a Turan III with an Auto cannon stuck to the roof. Looks completely out of place for a 1946 design
The thing I always noticed was how historical ww2 German land vehicles generally have a very angular design. In Wolfenstein they all seem to have a lot more curves.
This might be out of your wheelhouse, but would you consider taking a look at some Ace Combat stuff? Totally understand if planes aren't your thing, but there's also an "Advanced Tank" in Ace Combat 7 that has a main gun, a CIWS, and a SAM launcher, which might be an interesting look? Maybe? EDIT: Also would you consider making a video of a bunch of individual vehicles from different franchises that might not work for a full video? Stuff like the Siege Tank from Starcraft, or that APC and dropship from Aliens, or some stuff from Supreme Commander?
The rivits on the Upgraded sherman might be more of a repair to the armor then a modification. welding thicker metals together can be a issue, and welding cast required the cast peice to all be hot.
2:53 arent those squares to the left and the right of the shovel firing ports? it looks like it should open outwards, allowing the infantry inside to shoot out, it just looks buttoned up.
One I would like is Valkyria chronicles. The tanks overall look pretty normal but one strange thing is that the MBT's are two man even though they are slightly larger than a Sherman.
My suggestions for other vehicles to check out would... Probably be Warhammer 40k, Valkyria Chronicles, C&C (Red Alert Series), Homeworld: Deserts of Kharak, Star Wars (Battlefront 2005, Empire At War, etc.), aaaaaaand... Executive Assault.
Just to note the 105mm variant of the Sherman had the A1 turret witch was smaller than the A3 turret that was mounted for the Sherman VC and the Easy8- 76mm variants. So having a 90mm on a post war hypothetical variant isn’t that far from plausible.
The Armored Car isn't designed to be any 'kinda "troop transporter".
Judging by the way it launches drones out it's hatch in The New Order, I'm convinced it's primarily for that purpose over all-else, a drone-deployment platform.
(Also although they aren't used in-game, there's hatches across the front body I imagine the drivers could look out of.)
Its heavily armored and is packing giant cannons dude. Not cost effective as just a drone deployer
@@Galdenberry_Lamphuck lol nothing they use is cost effective its all go big or go home xD
Alackofcaring This is a WW2-era Nazi German military. Cost efficiency was a foreign concept to them.
@@adamjames1149 *Cold War Era* majority of the game takes places in the 60's +
@@Galdenberry_Lamphuck I imagine the "London Monitor" isn't cost-effective either.
"The gun looks too big for this kind of tank"
Nah they just put it in sideways.
lmao
I see you're a Potential History fan aswell
@@anm10wolvorinenotapanther32 meme's been around longer than that, but yeah his content is pretty good
the gun on the VC wasen't sideways so it could fit, it was sideways so the loader had an easier time loading it, the actuall thing the brits did to fit the 17pndr on the sherman was to remove the radio, but it in a box on the outside and carve a hole for the crew to operate it from the inside, because all they needed was *extra* space, because the gun *could* fit in the turret, the only problem was that the recoil would hit the back of it
armored car looks more soviet than nazi with all the round edges and greenish camo.
and the whole "no gun depression" thing
It even looks like it came out from the Fallout 4
@@12isaac00 well no gun depression was also kinda common on German tanks like Panther, Tiger, King Tiger, Ferdinand, Stug, Hetzer, and a bunch of others. British and Americans had better gun depression and the Sherman was pretty good depending on what gun was mounted. The Firefly also didn't have such great gun depression as the gun internally took up a bunch of room.
@@bryanmartinez6600 I heardRussian tanks were almost the same as well
@@PanzerEdelweissStevenDelMar555 lol definitely you ain't gonna shoot over a hill in a t72 hull down.
With the poll a Valkyria Chronicles tank discussion seems unlikeley, but I am andamant that those are some interesting tanks to talk about. They are pretty good at resembling functional tanks.
Anyway that fake Puma looks more like it has atleast double 5cm guns based on how large that entire vehicle is.
The pinnacle of exposed engine (radiator) at rear.
Yeah, I honestly have to agree on that. Though all the vehicles have one obvious con and that’s the exposed engine on the back of the tanks
Radiators are pratically impervious to small arms fire, it would be interesting to note that as the germans had issues on the eastern front with their rear armor against soviet anti-tank rifles, the same would potentially apply to valkyria in terms of radiator exposure.
I would love to see Spookston do a episode about Valkyria Chronicles tanks
I bought valkyria only because I read some comment under the fallout video, but man, am I loving that game!
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Ah yes, Finnish modern Airforce symbol
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I never knew that wolfenstein had tanks
But in Wolfenstien they have flying gunships and carriers
Well, we all knew they had them, we just never noticed them and expected them to be more then a background info. And that's only in regards to new series. Even 2009's game had Tiger and... well, let's call it a SturmMaus.
@@TheArklyte I remember in the video just before when the narrator was talking about the Sherman and went to a clip, with BJ on the Massive wheel cycle, driving past the old U.S Army equipment, they were all standard from the war, but the trucks, jeeps and the tanks have been so heavily modified to keep up with the German war machine until they finally lost.
The Shermans only show up in passing. Literally. There are lines of them and other US Army vehicles abandoned along a rural Texas road in a cutscene in The New Colossus. The photo for the nuclear powered nazi tank is part of a letter you can find as a collactable in The New Order.
Yeah thought the Nazees would just go full mecha
No comment about the random superfluous machine guns bolted around the future-Sherman?
Its not historicaly innacurate just look at all the early war american tanks, just look at the early stuarts that had up to 4 machine guns on a man tank.
Imma guess, it was just there to add extra firepower to support infantry, definitely not useful but yeah idk
@@aussieman4791 Maybe, but you can see some upgraded shermans like the sherman revalorisé and the sherman repotenciado. They aren't too flashy.
Americans were in the cult of the machine gun at the time, not the most ridiculous thing. Not to mention it can prove still useful if supporting infantry
The very first M4 Shermans had two machineguns bolted into the hull that the driver could fire on top of the hull gun, the .30 coax, and the. 50 roof gun.
4:18 That thing BJ is driving looks like one of Jimmy's vehicles from Jimmy Neutron.
It actually exists, believe it or not and it was made in Italy in the 30's.
@один день мама monowheel, yep, stupid name, but it isn't very practical anyway, some people did reproduce it nowdays, but still kind odd and unpractical.
@@Rrgr5 An revolutionary joy ride I suppose
It was in borderlands 3 too.
No one going to talk about how general grevious rode one of these
3:24 Imaging chilling in an out post in Syria and that just rolls up
Isn't even that impossible. In the 6day war the Israelis used Panter IV and some of them might get back on the battlefield und a ISIS command. And they would build such a contraption.
I'd see if a mobility kill were possible, because an antique like that should be preserved.
Imagine how it feels to grease a dude and pick up an STG 44 from his corpse.
Modern warfare is an amazing thing.
That?. aww cmon. Not very dreadfull considering lots of rpg and ied nowdays.
5:27
That looks a hell of a lot bigger than a 90mm... maybe they mounted a howitzer gun onto the turret or made a long barreled variant of the 105mm gun that the U.S. already had.
Dom Chubs
yeah, the US did add a 105mm on their Sherman's at some point but they also made the turret bigger so the crew could still have space, this one just looks like the regular Sherman turret with more curves
@Drunk Pharaoh The allies didn't have that on their tanks, they only had the short barreled 105mm howitzer. I'm saying either the germans added their own full length howitzer gun onto the turret or made a long variant of the american 105mm.
@Drunk Pharaoh Right, I thought the upgraded sherman was upgraded by the germans
No a 105mm would require a much bigger turret mantle e.g the abrams and unless your talking about artillery, the americanos did not have a long barreled 105 on a tank just a short barreled one
So is this modified sherman made by the U.S. or the germans after they captured it?
Removing the unity sight from the Sherman is the biggest crime in the best Tank designs I've ever seen.
Any Tankers need those in case you don't wanna have a cupola with only Vision ports but without Periscopes will results having blind sights.
Spookston: *says if a nuclear reactor were to explode, it'd be a steam explosion*
Me: HOW DOES AN RBMK REACTOR EXPLODE
He is delusional, take him to the infirmary
I was in the tioilet.
Chernobyl was actually a steam explosion. There would be no nuclear explosion in a reactor since there isn't enough fissile material for it
@@phantomsoldier497
Also the wrong type to do that.
@@phantomsoldier497 I knew it was a steam explosion. And it's still an explosion
Hitler liked big things. The Car's size is historically accurate to what Hitler thought was best. To him, bigger is always better.
@Pot Committed I guess I am.
Pot Committed *Fuhrerious*
@@cobaltCarnivore 😆
Zomby Gaming so basically, he was compensating for something?
I dont know where you heard this but hitler had no role in the design and production of any of the wermacht equipment.
Planetside 2 tanks please, you can even have three episodes for each of the three factions
I mean there are only 4 different tanks in total though.
Damn scythes
We might be just watching this video going “interesting designs”, but in other universe some of us might be watching this video while thinking “that’s how we disable enemy vehicles”
0:48
Just imagine this giant ten wheeled monster rolling up, with two big ass guns at the front and thinking you're gonna be in for one hell of a fight. Only for one little laser drone to pop out of it and... That's it...
Do the Halo Elephant from Halo wars and Halo 3, and maybe the mammoth from Halo 4
i think the double sprocket on the german (those geared wheels) that you said "connected to nothing" actually work that way:
the forward one is connected to the transmission, while the aft one is connected to the tracks, as it seems that they aren't in line with the hull.
There was a infantry telephone field mod in use by 44, though the improved ones didn't come around until Korea
You should talk about the Gears of War Centaur Tank
@@diegomoreno7760 technically it's a light tank
@@diegomoreno7760 I guess the puma, centauro and amx 10 don't count
@@tigersympathiser2265 none of those are designated as a tank
You should check out some of the ""tanks"" in Star Wars. They'll really get your gears grinding.
3:10 - I think this base on Pzkfpw IV photo - 8 road wheels, instead of 6 in Panzer III (most popular versions).
I love your, "everything wrong with" videos, they are always very interesting.
Star wars AAT? I'm enjoying this series and would love to see the droid hind based tank covered.
Love that Halo 3's "Behold a Pale Horse" is playing in the background.
Just to improve on the accessibility of the less engineering side of youtube-adding highlights or circles to the parts on the tank that you’re referring to would help us understand what you’re talking about.
Just a thought.
Suggestion: Everything wrong with vehicles from Metal Arms: Glitch in the System. that game has the craziest most amazing vehicles
I love your use of rain for the outro, hits me with nostalgia everytime
The whole thing with wolfenstein is that the vehicles (and enemies) are meant to be intimidating. For example The London Monitor (or Baltisches Auge) cost effective, not at all, would it make me scared to all hell if I saw that thing coming at me, very much so.
Very true, the nazi vehicles are all bulky and absolutely gigantic, meanwhile the, for example, updated sherman, is just an upgraded tank because it's meant to be effective
@@Am_Yeff it kind of makes sense aswell, why waste troops when you can end the battle before it even began
@@hansgrosse9505 yeah, they literally control the whole world, only thing that matters to them is if it looks cool or intimidating
@@Am_Yeff Seenig as they control most of the world, they probably dont have to worry about efficiency as much as if they were a smaller nation
Honestly I'm surprised the rebels don't countine to use old allied equipment considering it's just as good if not better then alot of the cold war Nazi equipment.
Can you do the Valkyria Chronicles or Warhammer 40k tanks?
As soon as I voted *BOOP* Spookston has a new video ,WOW!, THAT WAS FAST!
Hey! Firstly awesome work on this video! Good points on all of it, but if I may suggest, I think the armored car more closely resembles the more obscure Sd.Kfz 231 8 rad. The angles, frontal additions, raised turret, and wheel housings resemble it more. I know they're both very closely related however, and it's also quite pretentious to point out something minute on such an old video about a fictional vehicle, but hey thought I'd offer that take.
Regardless keep up the great work! Your vids are always entertaining!
They did cram a 105mm gun into the standard Sherman turret. So if they worked around shortening the 90mm cannon m3 they could probably fit it nicely.
The 105 M4 was a self propelled artillery vehicle, so they probably didn't care if it produced ergonomic issues.
@@Spookston it could pen a panther with HEAT shell the 105mm. At least according to field accounts and war thunder. So i really question why not just make the howitzer sherman. More he filler than a 75mm. Yes lower velocity but still a higher pen.
@@10pt16 thing is, with an artillery vehicle the crew does not need to be comfortable. They just load the gun, fire it and go about their day out of direct enemy fire. In combat, however, a severely stressed out crew will not be too happy with the lack of space inside the vehicle. The biggest limitation to fitting an oversized gun into a tank is crew space inside
@@cldus7442 with 105mm mounted sherman the breach was smaller than the 75mm's actually. The shells were larger but the breach wasnt as long and had a tighter block that didn't hinder as much space as the 75mm m3 guns did. Unless war thunder which did research on the vehicles is lying the 105mm would've been even more comfortable than the 75mm for the crew
I would love to know what you think of the warhammer 40k tanks
The armored car looks like it had major hydroforming, like the Soviets.
I did some research on tanks and did find stuff about the infantry telephone. The US did use it in WWII in Western Europe in 1944. However, some units found it to be ineffective and that having the commander on foot with the infantry to be a better way to communicate. Great Video by the way.
This mans pfp is “wolf”instine
*shittyflute curb your enthusiasm*
Spookston has grown so much and I honestly would love more videos such as this I can't wait to see what he has in the future
This is definitely my favourite tank/ land vehicles/ weapons Chanel!
*takes one look at the sherman*
“Look at how they massacred my boy”
I'm really loving your videos man! You have a great voice that works especially well with this, in my opinion.
damn you could make a whole series on warhammer tanks
there's not just 1 or 2
This series is pretty great
Keep it up, man
“How does 90 millimeters of tungsten strike ya”
Tank beats Ghost!
Tank beats Hunter!
Gabriel Garcia tank beats... EVERYTHING
Aww man! I could do this all day!
We forgot tank beats phantom and tank beats tank...
Went through the comments and nobody appreciates the nostalgic Halo 3 ODST music at the end. Wast expecting childhood memories and flash backs at the end of this but thanks :)
return to castle wolfenstein was the best wolfenstein we need a remake for our childhood
4:53 the grunt phone was used in the pacific theater as early as...the battle for Bougainville...(i think) but definitely before the retaking of the Philippines.
Im not sure when grunt phones were introduced into the ETO, but i imagine it came along as upgraded shermans started arriving in theater.
Infantry telephone began being mounted almost as soon as they'd gotten off the beach in Normandy but they weren't part of the Sherman design, they were always just field modifications. I think that's what he means that they weren't officially part of the design.
I wonder what Hans was thinking when he designed the armor car
"Please don't kill me/my family."
He was thinking about mounts for the flammenwerfer?
The vertical doors on the armored car is for the drone bay, I'm not sure where on the vehicle troops are meant to deploy out of
i honestly don't think they are supposed to deploy out of anywhere, since it doesn't even look like an APC, and the puma wasn't an APC
people get in/out through the top of the turret or whatever
Didnt relember that Second tank. But, it was been over a year since i played
Actually interesting trivia, we started being able to put plug-ins to talk to Tank crews in mid 1944, due to the issues we encountered in the Hedgerow country in Normandy. So it looks different, but it's accurate. The 90 mm guns were definitely accurate too, they shoehorned a 105 mm long barreled gun into a similar looking turret in the legendary Super Shermans that Israel used.
“Their vehicles are mainly mangled versions of ones that existed during WWII with random stuff added onto them.”
*glares at the M1 Abrams*
Should really do a video like this on Valkyria Chronicles 1 & 4's tank designs. They're surprisingly good, but mostly because they're based off real tanks but with some flare. VC 4's main tank the Hofen is basically a M4 Sherman, as you progress and upgrade it, it turns pretty much into a M4A3E8 but with extra armor plating welded on. VC 1's main tank eventually turns into a Tiger II with a shorter barrel gun.
"Portholes so the men can shoot out."
I think having portholes for IFVs is a stupid idea. Like, it already has a cannon. Why in the fuck anyone would want to make the cargo they're supposed to protect more vulnerable is beyond me.
Actually, Swedish IFV (CV90) has hatches that the Swedish troops often shoot out off, and they are not alone in this either since they have Tank support and other supporting Elements, the Germans did this in Ww2 as well, where Panzergrenadiers would shoot out of their Half-tracks, so there is the basis for it historically and in the modern-day with the Swedish forces. During Operation Desert Storm the M2 Bradley also has 6 firing ports. I'm not saying the M2s firing ports were really good, but, there is a basis for it in reality. But given the setting of Wolfenstein, I don't think the developers were aiming for realism here.
Ironically, the firing ports were most useful in the M3 Cavalry variant of the Bradley, which reduces the number of passengers down to two soldiers acting as dismounted scouts, facing the rear doors and using the rear-firing ports; the rest of the compartment was delegated to storing additional ordnance like TOW missiles and 25mm shells. This removal of the original six passengers meant the internal space was reconfigured to allow for both more carrying capacity as well as redesigning the seats.
As for the firing ports’ usefulness, the only useful role was for suppression, since precision fire was not possible within the confines of a moving vehicle nor would the periscopes and lack of weapon sights allowed for it; the magazine size also meant you might as well use the main gun or dismount and trust your luck with your actual rifle.
It should be noted that firing ports were used in the contemporary Marder and BMP-1 designs, and it is not surprising that, given that these two vehicles fell away from firing port use, the Bradley did as well. The tactical doctrine made the use of firing small arms within a large armed moving vehicle made little contribution.
They still have M231s stowed in Bradleys, though.
Firing ports also don't have to be very big either, just big enough to fire a rifle's barrel out of. Like in the M2 Bradley. So in reality it does not affect the survivability of the vehicle by much.
Firing ports can be closed and opened at will. I am not fighting you or anything, I'm just sharing my own thoughts, sorry if I somehow disturb you.
command and conquer would be fantastic, scorpion, mammoth, stealth tank so many options i hope you cover it in the future eventually
Had personally really hoped for C&C
But wait the real question, GDI or NOD
@@Asdtable Why not both?
@@DoomDutch like your thinking kid.
Kane wants you to view this
/googlesearch.openra
I love that you use halo music
Would love to see you have a go at C&C tanks. Especially the ones of Kane's Wrath and C&C4
Everybody knows that the RA2 Apocalypse Tank is the greatest tank ever
@@vovin8132 more like battlefortress to me.
@@kirra9152 tib sun stealth tank
@@Asdtable yeah. Base infiltration was never been soo good. But it will lose against distruptor on 1 to 1 basis.
Loving that halo music in the background
Him: “the 90mm seems too big for the turret”
Me: “they put 105mm in the tank in WW2 tho…”
The shell of the 90mm is much longer. It's about length, not width. The 105 was a howitzer, so it didn't need a lot of propellent and it didn't need to have a quick reload time.
@@Spookston What about the Israeli Sherman M-51? Proper 105mm. Sure those have the bigger turret of the 76mm shermans but that doesn't mean that you can't fit a 90mm into the wolfenstein sherman turret with some creativity.
@@Annozocker15 Those don't have the 76mm turret, those have a specially constructed and modified French turret.
@@Annozocker15 It's not the question whether you can fit it, but if you can make it ergonomically fit well enough, no use in a gun that takes up all of the turret space. The 75 turrets were already stretching their limits with the 17pdr, so i doubt a 90mm could fit in nicely. But hey, the barrel might just be for guiding rockets, nobody talked about what it fired...
@@Spookston No they used the standard T23 Turrets of the 76mm shermans and the gun was the modified french 105mm modelé f1 from the amx30 which was shortened to 44 caliber lengths instead of 56.
Top exit and no shooting ports fit nicely. The Kätzchen APC concept and the pist war HS-30 both used them. The rear door om M3 and 251 where also not the main exit for fast exit. Modern designs with firing port etc. are BMP1 and past mostly
What about make a video about everything wrong with Halo’s vehicles
The gun barrel is an Oddball modificaiton he came up with the idea of putting a tube over the standard gun barrell on his shermans to make it look like they had a much larger gun
warhammer next
The video is gonna be like a half hour long addressing the flaws lmao
@@savage7882 Leman Russ is too high, has a fixed suspension, it's threads are a bit thin and that's about it. They look fucking rad tho, can go on literally any fuel, have a diverse range of primary and support weapons, as the main tank of the galaxy-spanning empire should. The others are chonky and great, except for Malcadors, because they are outdated and plain hideous
@@theovoldjopus4272 The leman russ is actually one of the most horrible designs though. First of, its lower body is a 100% carbon copy of the first british tank in ww1, which had major issues with its armor and tracks. The russ's tracks are completely exposed meaning even an indirect hit can cripple the entire vehicle. It has barebones armor design and it slopes only on certain parts, meaning projectiles can penetrate it easilly, especially from the sides. Its cannon is completely off the center of mass and too big for it, meaning it would topple if it fired at an off angle or while moving. And its profile is massive to begin with, target practice for aircraft . Plus, crewing this thing would be a nightmare, it has four turrets and a very small space. Talking realistically of course. Warhammer has enough fluff to justify a few of what i wrote.
@@savage7882
Leman Russ is far from Mark 1. The first World War tanks had huge problems mainly because they were the first, and people couldn't really figure out how to make them and, most importantly, did not have the technology to allow for such machines to function properly.
LRBT's tracks are usually protected at the top, and in case of urban fighting, usually also front-protected by the doser blades to clean the roads for infantry, Chimeras and other vehicles, should they follow.
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Its front armor is sloped at a good angle, about 50° for both top and bottom parts. Side armor is a massive weakspot, but is necessary to fit additional sponsons, and even it is not easily penetrated, as it has a moderate thickness of plasteel behind it.
It's cannon actually is surprisingly low-caliber, the standard one being 120mm. The thickness of the barrel comes from cooling systems and compensators, because the rounds use much more powerful fuceline as a chemical propellant.
And even crewing it isn't that hard of a deal, because it has a crew of 4 men, or 6 with sponsons, but their places are not fully located inside of the hull and are installed with sponsons if necessary. They all are located in a tank the size of a Tiger, but taller, whilst actually being lighter, so it isn't that much of a target. Yeah, kind of cramped, but at the same time it's less than the crew of Tiger itself. Also, lascannon or heavy bolter installed in the front isn't actually a turret, but rather is more like hull-mounted MG, controlled indirectly by commander, driver or even main gunner if needed.
@@savage7882 I mean, the design is still really impractical, due to it being unchanged since like 1987, but it is not the levels of impracticality some people think it is. It would be cool, if Games Workshop could redesign it, but it most likely won't happen
Actually the telephone on the back of Sherman's started appearing in the Pacific theater during ww2
40k next?
Excellent choice of BGM, love me some Halo 3 music.
Do wh40k next!
Thats what the wolf tank looked like?!
Coincidentally, I was picturing a beefed up sloped nuclear tank version.
has this guy ever designed a tank? he’s very knowledgeable about them, i’m sure his would be S tier
@@TonyBustaroni The hardest part about designing a tank is making it transportable by air.
Spookston: "Its not a great idea to have a giant Armored Fighting Vehicle"
Gaijin: "Ratel AFV"
"the guns look 15 to 20mm"
*Shows guns that are clearly 50 to 76mm*
Probably 50mm.
Maybe 75mm.
But I highly doubt that germany would use 76mm cannons.
Check out the leclair mbt. It doesnt have bulge on barrel for fume extractor. Uses different extraction method
*Laughs
a point could be made about the sherman's riveted turret being additional armor on top of the original sherman turret if it were to be built on top of a normal sherman, like what happened with multiple vehicles during WW2 (riveted armor on top of welded for captured/obsolete vehicles)
This video seemed cool, until I realized a furry made it.
And how does that effect the video?
@Alexander Wellen ahh ok
Spookston sounds just so done
Theres also the very tall troop carriers that can be found in the new york level
I think it would be more immersive if you had an arrow or something indicating what you're talking about during your pros and cons. It would be easier to follow along. Other than that, I'm glad youtube recommended your vids
I have to guess that the double idler at the back would mean it would be powered too? It makes no sense from where it is located but the pattern on the bigger one looks like a planetary drive wich is used to increase the torque output. Also maybe thats why there are suspension element on the too roller as a mean of adjusting the track tension
Some Sherman's during WWII had Infrantry telephones attached to the tank. There are many sources to verify this, the phones while experimental for the allies at that time were taken from designs first used by the Germans actually.
1:02 wat? that's how you make immersive content bro
2:45 the door is not actually for troops, i played that sequence of wolfenstein myself and the APC or however you might call it actually releases multiple drones from that hatch, that attack the player
"Oh very nice, a faithful evolution of the Sherman, what did they remove? THEY REMOVED THE UNITY SIGHT? WHAT THE FUCK?"
Not to Sure about the Wulf in Wolfenstien new order.
But I remember the Wulf from wolfenstien 2009 having a Twin Barrel Turret and a Very E100 /E50 kind of style. But your right the Wulf from the Collectable for me anyway looks like a Turan III with an Auto cannon stuck to the roof. Looks completely out of place for a 1946 design
Nice choice of music
That ODST music tho god u gotta go give me flashbacks.
Can you do a video on the Baneblade from Warhammer 40k?
The thing I always noticed was how historical ww2 German land vehicles generally have a very angular design. In Wolfenstein they all seem to have a lot more curves.
Can you do a video about the Titan's from the "Titanfall" series? They are basicly walking tanks with AI
That upgraded Panzer 4 seems to be a real, or at least somewhat real photograph of one used by someone post war
This might be out of your wheelhouse, but would you consider taking a look at some Ace Combat stuff? Totally understand if planes aren't your thing, but there's also an "Advanced Tank" in Ace Combat 7 that has a main gun, a CIWS, and a SAM launcher, which might be an interesting look? Maybe?
EDIT: Also would you consider making a video of a bunch of individual vehicles from different franchises that might not work for a full video? Stuff like the Siege Tank from Starcraft, or that APC and dropship from Aliens, or some stuff from Supreme Commander?
The rivits on the Upgraded sherman might be more of a repair to the armor then a modification. welding thicker metals together can be a issue, and welding cast required the cast peice to all be hot.
When you make a Sherman with a turret that can't hold an 90mm
This post made by the M26 Pershing gang.
Would love to see you cover some just cause 4 tanks
2:53 arent those squares to the left and the right of the shovel firing ports? it looks like it should open outwards, allowing the infantry inside to shoot out, it just looks buttoned up.
Would be interesting to put in a poll for a tank review of Red Faction Guerilla
One I would like is Valkyria chronicles. The tanks overall look pretty normal but one strange thing is that the MBT's are two man even though they are slightly larger than a Sherman.
My suggestions for other vehicles to check out would... Probably be Warhammer 40k, Valkyria Chronicles, C&C (Red Alert Series), Homeworld: Deserts of Kharak, Star Wars (Battlefront 2005, Empire At War, etc.), aaaaaaand... Executive Assault.
Just to note the 105mm variant of the Sherman had the A1 turret witch was smaller than the A3 turret that was mounted for the Sherman VC and the Easy8- 76mm variants. So having a 90mm on a post war hypothetical variant isn’t that far from plausible.