Very helpful review, makes me feel better about owning the older version of the fork too seeing it has at least one benefit being lighter weight and honestly the CTD system in full open works quite well for me. The misinformation from fox about the weight pre purchase would bug me too, glad you took the time to weight it and point it out probably saving a lot of people from making an upgrade they may not be satisfied with due to this fact. Happy riding!
The 120mm fork is for the trail version of the Anthem, which includes a 180 front rotor, a 70 mm stem, 740mm bars, and a dropper post. The entire combination, in the mountains, works great.
Hi Clint, I know you've said in the past that you've had issues with RockShox forks and won't run them any more, but it would be very cool to get your take on the Pike since it's established itself fairly well as the premier trail/enduro fork. Either way, keep up the good work, these videos are great!
I was confused by your statement that they don't make the Talas anymore since I ordered one a couple of days ago. Then I realized mine is a 29 " wheel. My 2012 32 mm Talas fork was trash and the cost to upgrade over repair was only $95 more. I debated to go to with the float vs the 32 talas but the Fox rep wasn't sure about weights either. The talas appears to still be the older design and is no doubt a bit heavier. FYI they do offer a Kabush light weight axle now that shaves 40 grams if weight is a concern and you don't mind getting a hex key out to remove the front wheel. Great videos Clint. Keep them coming.
Yeah, I've thought about the Kabush axle. I'll probably go that route soon. And as you stated, no TALAS for the 27.5 XC forks... and the 29 TALAS is heavier than the Float. I had a 29 TALAS on my Jet 9 RDO a few years ago and liked it. The one really good thing about the Float is that they are easier to work on (i.e. changed the oil).
Hi Clint, before I help my family business out, I am pre engineering nerds, the truth is there is no perfect solution for everyone, you would have to time them, assess them through cycle computer on both of them versus how you actually physically feel inorder to get the 100% accuracy of what work best for you. Just like I am 100% sold for over two year that LOOK cleat system is the best cleat that work for me personally.
Hey Clint Gibbs, I love your vids and recently subscribed! I am getting the 2015 Raleigh Tokul 4130. It comes with the Fox 32 Float CDT with 130mm of travel. Is this fork similar to the white shock you brought out a couple times in this video? Thanks in advance for your answer!
Hi, thanks for this great review. I have bought 2016 Fox32, Open mode works perfect, but I cannot see the difference between Open, Medium and Lock positions. It still behaves as Open....Is there any option to adjust it ?? Thanks for the answer !
I just want to ask on what is the problem of my fork, it has air and every time i get into my bike, the shocks keeps on dropping and it didn’t get into it’s original height of the suspension (not sure what it’s called, suspension or shocks) so i just twist the blue into lock setting so it will not drop when i ride it, what should i do? Thank you so much!
Hey Clint just read on ridefox.com that the elite fork which is spec'd on the 2016 27.5 anthem sx along with being setup @ 120mm also has along with the factory fork handlebar lock out capability. This remote lock out option seems to be the main difference with the elite fork over the float performance. Thanks for all your reviews.
Thanks for the review. I am looking to buy a 2016 trance 27.5 2. I am coming from a 2016 talon 1. Have you had any experience with the trance 2? What's your take? Thanks.
+Keith Van Hoosen the Trance 2 it's probably one of the best values in Giants lineup. Other than not including a dropper seatpost I think the spec is spot-on. I would try to negotiate a giant dropper post with your bike shop with the purchase. The only thing on that bike that you may want to upgrade later on would be the wheels if you wanted to go with the stiffer Carbon wheels.
+Clint Gibbs Thank you for your quick reply. According to Giants website and the one I saw at my lbs it does come with the giant dropper post. This is looking like my next bike as the trails I like to ride are getting more and more technical. Thanks again and I enjoy your in depth reviews and tips. They have helped.
+Clint Gibbs.. I picked up the trance 2 last night. Haven't had the chance to break in on the trails yet, just a quick couple laps in the parking lot Will set it tubeless tonight and work on understanding the new suspension as it is a bit more advanced than the TK 30 Gold I had. Thanks again for your input. So far very happy!
Clint, you are from my neck of the woods and we ride a lot of the same trails. I am riding a 2018 epic comp carbon and just pulled the trigger on a fox float factory 32 100mm. I am replacing the Reba RL that came on the bike because after about 170 miles the Reba became extremely stiff in the first few mm of travel. It now has virtually no progression and less than 7% sag at recommended psi. so small roots like you describe bounces the bike like crazy, and the front wheel wants to push through turns. Do you find that the Fox is a more progressive fork, as in does it eat up the small choppy stuff well In the first portion of travel? I know it’s a better fork materials wise but hope that it will have a nice linear progression with regards to trail manners. Thanks in advance and it’s cool that I found a local rider doing this video just from googling the fork I just bought.
I think you will find the Fox fork much more small bumps complaint. It also it's very adjustable with the volume spacers. You can make it very linear or feel progressive. I think you'll really like it.
That's great to hear. I am looking forward to it. Some of the rooty downhills around here seem to call for a really plush initial travel with really quick rebound and my current rig definitely struggles with that. Sounds like the Fox will do much better making it a worthwhile $$ investment. Can't wait. Thanks Clint.
You make great videos. I have learned a lot from them. I have a question on Bluetooth earphones. I want a pair of Bluetooth headphones that can be used for cycling as well as everyday use for my iPhone. I also do quite a bit of outdoor landscaping work in the summer. I prefer the around the neck style. What do you recommend with durability in mind. I am Trooper, so I would be wearing it for work also. Also, do you know if they can pair with the Apple Watch and play music from the watch playlist without the phone? Thanks in advance!
+TrpDSgt I REALLY like the Jaybird X2, but they are not the neck style you described. You can let them dangle around your neck when not in use, but if you move around a lot they can fall off. I'd say the LG Tone Active would be the best for what you described. I don't have any experience with the Apple watch.
hey Clint! Great video btw... Anyhow, I would like to ask if, is it ok if I upgrade my 100mm travel fork into 120mm? Will it affect its geometry or something? Because I'm kinda confused if its ok or not... I have a 2015 Giant XTC 27.5...
A Fox rep I spoke to said the weight increase to 2016 is not the internals, it is the slightly beefer external crown/lowers. Don't know if that is the case. That said, Fox XC forks have always been heavy compared to competition like DT and RockShox.
Hi Clint thanks for the video, just wandering a bit more about converting this from 100m to 120mm, does it have to be a 120mm specific fork that can be converted to 100mm? or can any 2016 100mm fox 32 fork be converted? the reasons i ask is because here in Australia we get 3 versions of the alloy Anthem, and the Anthem 1 model comes with a fox 100mm fork, with a shimano 1x11 drive train , which id prefer over the Sram and rock shock combo they sell on the Anthem SX, So in short it would be good to know if i could buy the Regular Anthem and convert it into an SX without too much expense? cheers, keep on posting these great vids!
From what I understand you can go down in travel but you cannot go up. That is, you cannot take a 100mm fork and make it a 120, but you can do the opposite.
+Clint Gibbs Well that's a little disappointing but i guess ill just ride and enjoy it at the 100mm spec, It will be more fun to see how far i can push the bike before it feels "limited" cheers anyway.
Well, let me know if you would be interested in buying this fork. The added weight between the 2014 and 2016 model PLUS the additional weight of the 120 (which I'm not really using right now) has me trying to sell the fork right now. If it doesn't sell it's not a big deal, but with a shot.
+Clint Gibbs Thanks for the offer, if i wasn't in Australia and somewhere a bit closer it i might have been able to do a deal with you, maybe even swap the brand new 100m shock that would come with the 120mm you purchased... actually i think the alloy 1 model that i was looking at is pretty much same spec as the 2016 anthem advanced 1? if you find someone who recently purchased one of those over where you are, you might be able to offer them a swap? the versatility of running either 120mm or 100mm should appeal to someone.
keep the 2016. do your forks have an offset? ive been looking for one for a niner air9 build. id like to know your opinion on the subject. Basically less offset or more for a xc hardtail?
Great video Clint really informative I noticed on the mode selector there is some extra travel when you switch between mode soft\firm\med why is that? 4:00
How much are these forks by themselves? I bought a 'Scott Aspect 900' 29er 2016 for £700 brand new on sale reduced from £1150. And online the forks are £500+? Any ideas how much the forks alone are guys? Cheers.
I would keep the 2016 fork and reduce that weight on something else. You'll be able to reduce that weight and be happy i'm sure, where there's a will there's a way always to reduce that weight. Maybe go carbon on a component. I have a BMC Cross Country and have it down to 21.7 lbs with a 6" dropper seat post. I know dropper seats are technically not suppose to be on Cross Country bikes, but when your going down scary as hell hills it makes a big difference.
+Andrew Roberts I wouldn't say I was slashing the shock. My complaint was Fox not giving accurate weights and it being heavier than I was told. I've since sold it and am now running the pure 100mm version. Performance is great on either one. Yes, you'll notice a huge difference. Enjoy!
i've got the 2016 float 32 fit4 and i can't adjust more than the 3 settings because i don't have that back knob on the top! what's the difference here? can i adjust the open mode anyway? thanks!
Nice vid, I've called Fox before for an upgrade on a 120 Float and the guy sounded pretty negative and a bit condescending. Their customer service is not the greatest and there are plenty of complaints about it. That is one area that Fox needs to improve for sure. If your racing and can handle everything on a 100, you might as well stick with it to save the grams. 120 has 20mm more material and I would think it will always weight more than a 100.
What if you ran one more volume spacer in the 120 as opposed to changing to the 100, that was it would be harder to get into the back end of the travel
Great video. I can't see you buying a set of 2017 32mm Float Performance 26" series, but if you did I'd love to see a review :) Just bought a set from Fox for about $350. I've got a carbon SJ just under 20lbs
You surprise me Clint, I'd have thought you would have gone for the new stepcast fork, you know the new orange coloured ones, what with your affinity towards weight and cross country!
+Brody Cross Stepcast wasn't out yet when I got this fork. Besides, it's such a New Concept that I would like to hear some reviews for a few months before I go that route. We'll see.
Hi man thanks for the review. I'm going to buy a Giant anthem 1 27.5 with 100mm front Fox 32 float Kashima but with remote control. Do you know if is possible to set in the middle mode? Thanks
+Eugenio Mussini it's been awhile since I've used a remote Fox control but I think you can put it in the locked, middle or open setting with the remote.
Is it normal to have about 25mm of movement on the Fit4 when locked out? That's standing off the bike pushing down, when riding its less because of rider sag. Just wondering if this is to be expected. Hope you will see this and answer.
Hi, are you sure that the rebound knob you where talking about is really for adjusting the rebound? Because on my model 2016 Fox Float 32 27,5 Fit4 performance this knob is the boost valve adjustment. In my case it is for adjusting how sensitive the fork is reacting on harder bumps in the locked position, in order to get better performance when pedaling uphill. Just asking.
that's kind of a bummer being heavier . seems like fox just revamped the 34 to try to counter the pike but they haven't got around to the 32 yet. if the old fork wasn't white I'd say put that one on for sure.
+Remus Moise been awhile since I've ridden a fox terralogic. Used to have one on a hardtail. Decent Fork but I like ones that are more small bump sensitive because I have a lot of roots on my trail.
Hi Client, just installed my new 16 FOX FLOAT 32 100MM on my 29er, haven't gone for a test ride yet. But I was playing with the FIT4 setting and found out that in FIRM setting the fork doesn't lock like the old 15 FLOT CTD I had. Is that correct? or mine has tech problems... Thanks for the help!
+MarChe Chan not 100% sure for your 29er model but for mine the fully locked out position, which is rotated all the way clockwise, it is fully locked out. You may want to have your local shop contact FOX to see if that's the case.
Clint do you know what the difference is between the 2016 anthem 27.5 sx 32fox float performance ELITE and the 2015 sx 32fox float performance. 2015 close out price 2399 vs 2016 2899 is the elite worth the extra money thanks
i just got a 2016 trance 2 what do you think about the front and rear shock? im confused to know if the shock has a CTD all it says is its a fox performance... help lol
I have not used other brands of forks like Rock Shox in a few years so I can't give a comparison of other ones. After having several RockShox forks go bad on me I decided I was only going to use Fox. My 2014 Fox CTD fork still performs very well. It's just the 2016 is a little bit better in terms of performance.
i need some help i picked up a fox 32 evo ctd oc 120mm fork last december i run about 100 psi in it after 30 hours of riding i noticed a clunk sound only when in trail mode and only intitially. after a few mins or usage it went away. 2 weeks ago i had the service done to replace the fluids when i reinstalled it on the bike my trail mode and lockout did not work. i let all the air out and cycled it a few times and now i have trail and lockout again. however the lockout is slightly mushy and i still get the same clunk when in trail mode for only a few mins. what the heck is going on here? some kind of air in the system? i also noticed the fork has developed a slight jigle/looseness at the very beginning of travel. im taking a milimeter or 3 of just a loose feel like my headset is loose but i checked and it tight and definately the first few milimeters of travel between the stanchions and legs at the seals. any idea whats going on here? i keep the bike extremely clean and lubed. the recent service was to conver to gold fluid and gold fluid compliant wipers. thanks in advance.
+mjs1231 to me it sounds like there is a problem in the damper side. Of the thousands of miles I put on Fox forks I've only had a problem with the damper once or twice. I would go to your local bike shop and explain the problem and have them contact fox, especially since it is still in warranty. Fox is pretty good about turn around so you should only be out about a week if your bike shop needs to send it back to them.
Hello friend, I would like to know if it is normal that my fork (fox fit 4) about 5mm sink without any resistance, from those 5 mm operation appears normal. Thanks greetings.
+Ultranationalist941 I've only had limited time on them. They ride well but I understand the maintenance is not very easy since they use a lot of needle bearings. You also have to consider your limitations on aftermarket wheels. Personally, they're not for me.
can you tell me the difference between 100mm and 120 mm 32/27.5 performance 2016 forks? anyone? 2016, 32, A, FLOAT, 27.5in, P-S, 100, Remote, FIT4, Shiny Blk, Pantone_Blue_C/375 Logo, 15QRx100, 1.5 T, 44mm Rake, OE are the specs, but i cant tell if they are 100 or 120
My question is: would you really be able to feel the difference if you hadn't weighted the fork? It seems to me that its just making the bike lighter for the sake of being lighter and not having proof of it really making any difference... And I'm not talking about your case in particular but about much of the bike industry hype when it comes to weight.
+baravnzla weight has a pretty dramatic feel on the way on bike rides. A lot more than what you would really think. My trail bike is only about five or six pounds heavier than my cross-country bike but yet it feels a lot more sluggish on typical cross-country Trails. On downhills it's a blast. Front end weight is pretty noticeable. As is rotational weight on the wheels.
Clint Gibbs yes, surely your trail bike feels sluggish on the same trails, but probably due to a combination of factors besides weight alone like geometry, tyre tread patern/size, suspension travel, etc. I know that weight added to the wheels and suspension have a more dramatic feel on bike behavior than any other part, but my point is that the upgrade on suspension performance could perfectly be worth a weight gain of less than 100grams. Have you beaten any of your PRs in strava that you get with your old fork? If yes that somehow makes my point valid.
I may be wrong, but the rebound is also related to the pressure. If a heavier rider, with something like 250lb and 100 psi, try to use only 4 clicks of rebound it will be a disaster. The fork will jump like having a heart attack.
+Clint Gibbs I've mention that because I don't have much experience in fork setup and that's exactly what Fox suggests. I'm trying to figure out my self what's the best setup for me... Browsing Fox's website I've found a chart recommending a specific rebound adjustment for every pressure, but this doesn't look the best for every terrain. But is a good start point. Your tip of close a little to jumps and open to a little more "live" terrains will help a lot (like in all your videos, I always learn something new!). Thanks
The guys who do sirious Racing will care about each an every gram they could take away from their bikes. For them it matters. For all others who are biking for fun and/or fitness it will not really matter. "Bodyweight-tuning" will have a much bigger effect. ;-)
Thanks for posting. That's the first exact weight I've been able to get on the 100 (after 3 or 4 calls to Fox). Factoring in the star nut and crown the 120 is not much heavier...about 30 to 35 grams.
I weighted it (2016 32 100mm fit4 15qr tapered) with uncut steerer tube and the 15qr axle. Pretty sure about that and the weight is 1731g, That is quite disappointing.
+Clint Gibbs That might be true , hard to believe though. Pics from internet: 27.5' :bikescale.com/index.php?d=artykul&kat=2&art=6374 29' : attach.mobile01.com/attach/201512/mobile01-dea91bb1ea62a27dd5855b322d73fe28.jpg Although the 29' is the remote model weighted without remote, but it's VERY WEIRD!
Hi, is there any way you could add a video which shows how it should perform on open vs firm setting? I have a new fork and I'm not sure my lockout (firm setting) works like it should. Not too many of these forks in here so can't really find a good reference fork to compare :( I have found this video: ua-cam.com/video/RJGxmXIsH3s/v-deo.html. Does this seem right for you or too soft for a firm setting? Mine behaves more or less like seen in this video.
Hopefully they don't put the PLASTIC nut on the bottom anymore. Since you have to service them so falkin much! With the 10-20ml of oil they put in the one side of the fork. Every month u have to fill that side of the Fork cause the foam Runs it dry. Without Buying the $50 rebuild kit for a stripped plastic nut on the bottom! Thanks for using our Fun For MONEY Or Else. Bastards...
I think the wal-mart coil forks are way better. I am a professional mtb rider so i know what im talking about. a Magna is ever bit just as good as any of the expensive bike shop bikes. I have won multiple xc races on my magna. my bike only weighs 40 lbs
Very helpful review, makes me feel better about owning the older version of the fork too seeing it has at least one benefit being lighter weight and honestly the CTD system in full open works quite well for me. The misinformation from fox about the weight pre purchase would bug me too, glad you took the time to weight it and point it out probably saving a lot of people from making an upgrade they may not be satisfied with due to this fact. Happy riding!
The 120mm fork is for the trail version of the Anthem, which includes a 180 front rotor, a 70 mm stem, 740mm bars, and a dropper post. The entire combination, in the mountains, works great.
Hi Clint, I know you've said in the past that you've had issues with RockShox forks and won't run them any more, but it would be very cool to get your take on the Pike since it's established itself fairly well as the premier trail/enduro fork. Either way, keep up the good work, these videos are great!
I was confused by your statement that they don't make the Talas anymore since I ordered one a couple of days ago. Then I realized mine is a 29 " wheel. My 2012 32 mm Talas fork was trash and the cost to upgrade over repair was only $95 more. I debated to go to with the float vs the 32 talas but the Fox rep wasn't sure about weights either. The talas appears to still be the older design and is no doubt a bit heavier. FYI they do offer a Kabush light weight axle now that shaves 40 grams if weight is a concern and you don't mind getting a hex key out to remove the front wheel. Great videos Clint. Keep them coming.
Yeah, I've thought about the Kabush axle. I'll probably go that route soon.
And as you stated, no TALAS for the 27.5 XC forks... and the 29 TALAS is heavier than the Float. I had a 29 TALAS on my Jet 9 RDO a few years ago and liked it. The one really good thing about the Float is that they are easier to work on (i.e. changed the oil).
Very interesting review, thanks for sharing about unexpected weight increase
Hi Clint, before I help my family business out, I am pre engineering nerds, the truth is there is no perfect solution for everyone, you would have to time them, assess them through cycle computer on both of them versus how you actually physically feel inorder to get the 100% accuracy of what work best for you. Just like I am 100% sold for over two year that LOOK cleat system is the best cleat that work for me personally.
Hey Clint Gibbs, I love your vids and recently subscribed! I am getting the 2015 Raleigh Tokul 4130. It comes with the Fox 32 Float CDT with 130mm of travel. Is this fork similar to the white shock you brought out a couple times in this video? Thanks in advance for your answer!
+Miles Shealy yes, if it's a fox CTD with Kashima coating on the stanchions then it would be the same, just longer travel.
Hi, nice video! Can you make a video explaining how to set up ur fork and shock, what is sag? What is rebound? Damper? thanks!!
Hi, thanks for this great review. I have bought 2016 Fox32, Open mode works perfect, but I cannot see the difference between Open, Medium and Lock positions. It still behaves as Open....Is there any option to adjust it ?? Thanks for the answer !
+Jiri Hauptvogel it seems there's a problem with your fork. The lockout should be fully locked and allow for no suspension movement.
I just want to ask on what is the problem of my fork, it has air and every time i get into my bike, the shocks keeps on dropping and it didn’t get into it’s original height of the suspension (not sure what it’s called, suspension or shocks) so i just twist the blue into lock setting so it will not drop when i ride it, what should i do? Thank you so much!
Hey Clint just read on ridefox.com that the elite fork which is spec'd on the 2016 27.5 anthem sx along with being setup @ 120mm also has along with the factory fork handlebar lock out capability. This remote lock out option seems to be the main difference with the elite fork over the float performance. Thanks for all your reviews.
Cool. Thanks for looking that up.
Great review man...I love my Fox 32! No problems and is very responsive for my purposes!
Thanks for the review. I am looking to buy a 2016 trance 27.5 2. I am coming from a 2016 talon 1. Have you had any experience with the trance 2? What's your take? Thanks.
+Keith Van Hoosen the Trance 2 it's probably one of the best values in Giants lineup. Other than not including a dropper seatpost I think the spec is spot-on. I would try to negotiate a giant dropper post with your bike shop with the purchase. The only thing on that bike that you may want to upgrade later on would be the wheels if you wanted to go with the stiffer Carbon wheels.
+Clint Gibbs Thank you for your quick reply. According to Giants website and the one I saw at my lbs it does come with the giant dropper post. This is looking like my next bike as the trails I like to ride are getting more and more technical. Thanks again and I enjoy your in depth reviews and tips. They have helped.
Great. Let me know how you like it if you pick one up.
+Clint Gibbs.. I picked up the trance 2 last night. Haven't had the chance to break in on the trails yet, just a quick couple laps in the parking lot
Will set it tubeless tonight and work on understanding the new suspension as it is a bit more advanced than the TK 30 Gold I had. Thanks again for your input. So far very happy!
Excellent. Let me know your thoughts on it after a few weeks of riding it.
Clint, you are from my neck of the woods and we ride a lot of the same trails. I am riding a 2018 epic comp carbon and just pulled the trigger on a fox float factory 32 100mm. I am replacing the Reba RL that came on the bike because after about 170 miles the Reba became extremely stiff in the first few mm of travel. It now has virtually no progression and less than 7% sag at recommended psi. so small roots like you describe bounces the bike like crazy, and the front wheel wants to push through turns. Do you find that the Fox is a more progressive fork, as in does it eat up the small choppy stuff well In the first portion of travel? I know it’s a better fork materials wise but hope that it will have a nice linear progression with regards to trail manners. Thanks in advance and it’s cool that I found a local rider doing this video just from googling the fork I just bought.
I think you will find the Fox fork much more small bumps complaint. It also it's very adjustable with the volume spacers. You can make it very linear or feel progressive. I think you'll really like it.
That's great to hear. I am looking forward to it. Some of the rooty downhills around here seem to call for a really plush initial travel with really quick rebound and my current rig definitely struggles with that. Sounds like the Fox will do much better making it a worthwhile $$ investment. Can't wait. Thanks Clint.
You make great videos. I have learned a lot from them. I have a question on Bluetooth earphones. I want a pair of Bluetooth headphones that can be used for cycling as well as everyday use for my iPhone. I also do quite a bit of outdoor landscaping work in the summer. I prefer the around the neck style. What do you recommend with durability in mind. I am Trooper, so I would be wearing it for work also. Also, do you know if they can pair with the Apple Watch and play music from the watch playlist without the phone? Thanks in advance!
+TrpDSgt I REALLY like the Jaybird X2, but they are not the neck style you described. You can let them dangle around your neck when not in use, but if you move around a lot they can fall off. I'd say the LG Tone Active would be the best for what you described. I don't have any experience with the Apple watch.
hey Clint! Great video btw... Anyhow, I would like to ask if, is it ok if I upgrade my 100mm travel fork into 120mm? Will it affect its geometry or something? Because I'm kinda confused if its ok or not... I have a 2015 Giant XTC 27.5...
+Red Almuranasz I think my video that I made on putting a 120mm fork on an Anthem will answer your questions.
A Fox rep I spoke to said the weight increase to 2016 is not the internals, it is the slightly beefer external crown/lowers. Don't know if that is the case.
That said, Fox XC forks have always been heavy compared to competition like DT and RockShox.
+thechosendude Probably. I just wish I would have been given accurate information before I purchased the fork.
Thank you Clint for the feedback
Hi Clint thanks for the video, just wandering a bit more about converting this from 100m to 120mm, does it have to be a 120mm specific fork that can be converted to 100mm? or can any 2016 100mm fox 32 fork be converted? the reasons i ask is because here in Australia we get 3 versions of the alloy Anthem, and the Anthem 1 model comes with a fox 100mm fork, with a shimano 1x11 drive train , which id prefer over the Sram and rock shock combo they sell on the Anthem SX, So in short it would be good to know if i could buy the Regular Anthem and convert it into an SX without too much expense? cheers, keep on posting these great vids!
From what I understand you can go down in travel but you cannot go up. That is, you cannot take a 100mm fork and make it a 120, but you can do the opposite.
+Clint Gibbs Well that's a little disappointing but i guess ill just ride and enjoy it at the 100mm spec, It will be more fun to see how far i can push the bike before it feels "limited" cheers anyway.
Well, let me know if you would be interested in buying this fork. The added weight between the 2014 and 2016 model PLUS the additional weight of the 120 (which I'm not really using right now) has me trying to sell the fork right now. If it doesn't sell it's not a big deal, but with a shot.
+Clint Gibbs Thanks for the offer, if i wasn't in Australia and somewhere a bit closer it i might have been able to do a deal with you, maybe even swap the brand new 100m shock that would come with the 120mm you purchased... actually i think the alloy 1 model that i was looking at is pretty much same spec as the 2016 anthem advanced 1? if you find someone who recently purchased one of those over where you are, you might be able to offer them a swap? the versatility of running either 120mm or 100mm should appeal to someone.
My buddy from Gravelcyclist.com just got back from Australia hanging out with the boys at the Tour Down Under. Looks like an amazing place to ride!
keep the 2016. do your forks have an offset? ive been looking for one for a niner air9 build. id like to know your opinion on the subject. Basically less offset or more for a xc hardtail?
Another great review, Clint! If you can please do a review of KMC11spd chain vs KMC 10spd. Can I run a 10spd chain on a 11spd cassette?
I wouldn't recommend it. I don't think they are compatible but I wouldn verify that with your local bike shop.
No those are not at all compatible. Please don't try that and potentially mess up your drivetrain😂😂 it will not shift correctly.
Great video Clint really informative
I noticed on the mode selector there is some extra travel when you switch between mode soft\firm\med
why is that? 4:00
+me.vesko not quite sure I understand your question? Can you elaborate?
Right when you switch between modes (soft/firm) the switch has a slight travel left or right. Do you know what I mean?
I never noticed it until you pointed it out. I think it's just the mechanics of the fork. I really wouldn't worry about it.
How much are these forks by themselves? I bought a 'Scott Aspect 900' 29er 2016 for £700 brand new on sale reduced from £1150. And online the forks are £500+? Any ideas how much the forks alone are guys? Cheers.
I would keep the 2016 fork and reduce that weight on something else. You'll be able to reduce that weight and be happy i'm sure, where there's a will there's a way always to reduce that weight. Maybe go carbon on a component. I have a BMC Cross Country and have it down to 21.7 lbs with a 6" dropper seat post. I know dropper seats are technically not suppose to be on Cross Country bikes, but when your going down scary as hell hills it makes a big difference.
I'm upgrading the SR sunfork on my talon 29er. Despite you sort of slashing this shock I think I am going to notice a huge difference.
+Andrew Roberts I wouldn't say I was slashing the shock. My complaint was Fox not giving accurate weights and it being heavier than I was told. I've since sold it and am now running the pure 100mm version. Performance is great on either one. Yes, you'll notice a huge difference. Enjoy!
Clint just a question does this fork come in 26 inch version and if so can I use a 9mm quick release also feedback would be great cheers Theo
Yes, it comes in a 26 inch version, and in each wheel size you can get a 9mm open dropout.
Clint, can you do a video on how to properly setup your front and rear suspension for a XC bike?
+tlrollins17 ie. shock pressure, sag, rebound, etc.
Excellent explainetary video.. thanks!
i've got the 2016 float 32 fit4 and i can't adjust more than the 3 settings because i don't have that back knob on the top! what's the difference here? can i adjust the open mode anyway? thanks!
Nice vid, I've called Fox before for an upgrade on a 120 Float and the guy sounded pretty negative and a bit condescending. Their customer service is not the greatest and there are plenty of complaints about it. That is one area that Fox needs to improve for sure. If your racing and can handle everything on a 100, you might as well stick with it to save the grams. 120 has 20mm more material and I would think it will always weight more than a 100.
No it won't, it will just be a different air spring assembly inside the fork leg
What if you ran one more volume spacer in the 120 as opposed to changing to the 100, that was it would be harder to get into the back end of the travel
Great video. I can't see you buying a set of 2017 32mm Float Performance 26" series, but if you did I'd love to see a review :) Just bought a set from Fox for about $350. I've got a carbon SJ just under 20lbs
You surprise me Clint, I'd have thought you would have gone for the new stepcast fork, you know the new orange coloured ones, what with your affinity towards weight and cross country!
+Brody Cross Stepcast wasn't out yet when I got this fork. Besides, it's such a New Concept that I would like to hear some reviews for a few months before I go that route. We'll see.
Hi man thanks for the review. I'm going to buy a Giant anthem 1 27.5 with 100mm front Fox 32 float Kashima but with remote control. Do you know if is possible to set in the middle mode? Thanks
+Eugenio Mussini it's been awhile since I've used a remote Fox control but I think you can put it in the locked, middle or open setting with the remote.
Is it normal to have about 25mm of movement on the Fit4 when locked out? That's standing off the bike pushing down, when riding its less because of rider sag. Just wondering if this is to be expected. Hope you will see this and answer.
All the Fox forks I’ve had do not move when locked out.
@@ClintGibbs Interesting. I keep hearing a lot of different answers on this! Appreciate it.
Hi, are you sure that the rebound knob you where talking about is really for adjusting the rebound? Because on my model 2016 Fox Float 32 27,5 Fit4 performance this knob is the boost valve adjustment. In my case it is for adjusting how sensitive the fork is reacting on harder bumps in the locked position, in order to get better performance when pedaling uphill. Just asking.
+stollifa the rebound is the red one on the bottom of the fork.
Ah ok, then it´s different to my model. ;-)
that's kind of a bummer being heavier . seems like fox just revamped the 34 to try to counter the pike but they haven't got around to the 32 yet. if the old fork wasn't white I'd say put that one on for sure.
Hello there,
Any review of the Fox100 mm Terralogic 2016?
How to adjust to find the sweet spot.
Thanks a lot,
Remus
+Remus Moise been awhile since I've ridden a fox terralogic. Used to have one on a hardtail. Decent Fork but I like ones that are more small bump sensitive because I have a lot of roots on my trail.
Hi Client, just installed my new 16 FOX FLOAT 32 100MM on my 29er, haven't gone for a test ride yet. But I was playing with the FIT4 setting and found out that in FIRM setting the fork doesn't lock like the old 15 FLOT CTD I had. Is that correct? or mine has tech problems... Thanks for the help!
+MarChe Chan not 100% sure for your 29er model but for mine the fully locked out position, which is rotated all the way clockwise, it is fully locked out. You may want to have your local shop contact FOX to see if that's the case.
Clint do you know what the difference is between the 2016 anthem 27.5 sx 32fox float performance ELITE and the 2015 sx 32fox float performance. 2015 close out price 2399 vs 2016 2899 is the elite worth the extra money thanks
I really don't know what the Elite designation is for the 2016 fork.
+gary rodriguez In my opinion, Bos dizzy, Formula 33 perform even better and lighter.
Great video, what kind of camera do you use, your videos/sound are always very clear.
Sony A6000
Nice review. Great info.. thanks.
hello Clint... i have a question Can i run a 27.5 wheel on a 29er fork ?? this is possible ?? thanks.
Yes, that should be fine.
i just got a 2016 trance 2 what do you think about the front and rear shock? im confused to know if the shock has a CTD all it says is its a fox performance... help lol
+Cody Fournell the 2016 suspension is not CTD. Your bike has the new fit4 damper in the front. I THINK the rear shock is the new DPS too.
Clint - is there any other 100mm fork that you think can compare to the performance of this fork?
I have not used other brands of forks like Rock Shox in a few years so I can't give a comparison of other ones. After having several RockShox forks go bad on me I decided I was only going to use Fox. My 2014 Fox CTD fork still performs very well. It's just the 2016 is a little bit better in terms of performance.
i need some help
i picked up a fox 32 evo ctd oc 120mm fork last december
i run about 100 psi in it
after 30 hours of riding i noticed a clunk sound only when in trail mode and only intitially. after a few mins or usage it went away.
2 weeks ago i had the service done to replace the fluids
when i reinstalled it on the bike my trail mode and lockout did not work. i let all the air out and cycled it a few times and now i have trail and lockout again. however the lockout is slightly mushy and i still get the same clunk when in trail mode for only a few mins.
what the heck is going on here? some kind of air in the system?
i also noticed the fork has developed a slight jigle/looseness at the very beginning of travel. im taking a milimeter or 3 of just a loose feel like my headset is loose but i checked and it tight and definately the first few milimeters of travel between the stanchions and legs at the seals.
any idea whats going on here? i keep the bike extremely clean and lubed.
the recent service was to conver to gold fluid and gold fluid compliant wipers.
thanks in advance.
+mjs1231 to me it sounds like there is a problem in the damper side. Of the thousands of miles I put on Fox forks I've only had a problem with the damper once or twice. I would go to your local bike shop and explain the problem and have them contact fox, especially since it is still in warranty. Fox is pretty good about turn around so you should only be out about a week if your bike shop needs to send it back to them.
I know this is an older vid..but my thoughts are if it saves fatigue better, it makes up for the .1 lb by keeping you fresher
Hello friend, I would like to know if it is normal that my fork (fox fit 4) about 5mm sink without any resistance, from those 5 mm operation appears normal. Thanks greetings.
+Manel Carballo a fork should only sag if weight is put on the handlebars.
Hi Clint, what do you think of the Lefty?
+Ultranationalist941 I've only had limited time on them. They ride well but I understand the maintenance is not very easy since they use a lot of needle bearings. You also have to consider your limitations on aftermarket wheels. Personally, they're not for me.
And how mutch did you pay?
I bought mine for $800 or so, not sure about him though
Can i buy the bronze color tubes to replace my black ones ? I wanna make my bike pop a bit more
No, that's a special coating that fox puts on their higher end forks known as kashima coating.
@@ClintGibbs ok thanks
can you tell me the difference between 100mm and 120 mm 32/27.5 performance 2016 forks? anyone?
2016, 32, A, FLOAT, 27.5in, P-S, 100, Remote, FIT4, Shiny Blk, Pantone_Blue_C/375 Logo, 15QRx100, 1.5 T, 44mm Rake, OE are the specs, but i cant tell if they are 100 or 120
Is the 2015 model any good?
Makes me wonder what the weight difference is between the 32 and 34.
Not that much
My question is: would you really be able to feel the difference if you hadn't weighted the fork? It seems to me that its just making the bike lighter for the sake of being lighter and not having proof of it really making any difference... And I'm not talking about your case in particular but about much of the bike industry hype when it comes to weight.
+baravnzla weight has a pretty dramatic feel on the way on bike rides. A lot more than what you would really think. My trail bike is only about five or six pounds heavier than my cross-country bike but yet it feels a lot more sluggish on typical cross-country Trails. On downhills it's a blast. Front end weight is pretty noticeable. As is rotational weight on the wheels.
Clint Gibbs yes, surely your trail bike feels sluggish on the same trails, but probably due to a combination of factors besides weight alone like geometry, tyre tread patern/size, suspension travel, etc. I know that weight added to the wheels and suspension have a more dramatic feel on bike behavior than any other part, but my point is that the upgrade on suspension performance could perfectly be worth a weight gain of less than 100grams. Have you beaten any of your PRs in strava that you get with your old fork? If yes that somehow makes my point valid.
I may be wrong, but the rebound is also related to the pressure. If a heavier rider, with something like 250lb and 100 psi, try to use only 4 clicks of rebound it will be a disaster. The fork will jump like having a heart attack.
+Marcelo Cunha Yes, a lot of factors go into tuning a fork, more that I had time for this video. But good point.
+Clint Gibbs I've mention that because I don't have much experience in fork setup and that's exactly what Fox suggests. I'm trying to figure out my self what's the best setup for me... Browsing Fox's website I've found a chart recommending a specific rebound adjustment for every pressure, but this doesn't look the best for every terrain. But is a good start point. Your tip of close a little to jumps and open to a little more "live" terrains will help a lot (like in all your videos, I always learn something new!). Thanks
Well of course the 120mm fork is heavier than the 100mm.
Hey there is it worth to upgrade from a Sektor Gold to this??
+Mario Vega yes :)
So bro...fox 32..how mm the travel?
100
45 grams bro...does it really matter?
+John Beedham absolutely
+CoolnoobFTW Hit the gym an extra few hours each week and you could easily lose 45g in body weight
My key/key fob for my car is 65g... so no. But if you add 45g to everything on the bike, it becomes an issue.
true
The guys who do sirious Racing will care about each an every gram they could take away from their bikes. For them it matters.
For all others who are biking for fun and/or fitness it will not really matter. "Bodyweight-tuning" will have a much bigger effect. ;-)
whats the difference between 9mm and 15mm?
+Jun Tion 9mm is a quick release axle and thinner. 15mm ( also known as 15QR) is a thicker through-axle.
Can this be used in dirtjumps?
For big dirt jumps I would go with a fork with more travel and thicker stanchions
Wouldn't this whole problem be solved in you just got the carbon frame...
great review!
Do you sell your old parts?
+Edward Knecht yes but typically it's the whole bike, and I often put those on my channel for subscribers
I got my 16 fox fit4 100mm, and that weights 1731g with uncut steering tube!! (no starnut)
Thanks for posting. That's the first exact weight I've been able to get on the 100 (after 3 or 4 calls to Fox). Factoring in the star nut and crown the 120 is not much heavier...about 30 to 35 grams.
+long19000 Also, did you weigh it with the axle? Seems like you did but just wanted to make sure.
I weighted it (2016 32 100mm fit4 15qr tapered)
with uncut steerer tube and the 15qr axle.
Pretty sure about that and the weight is 1731g, That is quite disappointing.
Yup. And what's really weird to me, if another viewer is giving me the right information, the 2016 100mm 29er version is lighter... 1643 grams.
+Clint Gibbs That might be true , hard to believe though.
Pics from internet: 27.5' :bikescale.com/index.php?d=artykul&kat=2&art=6374
29' : attach.mobile01.com/attach/201512/mobile01-dea91bb1ea62a27dd5855b322d73fe28.jpg
Although the 29' is the remote model weighted without remote, but it's VERY WEIRD!
where did you get that fork?
+Aidan Wills ordered through my local bike shop.
Hi, is there any way you could add a video which shows how it should perform on open vs firm setting? I have a new fork and I'm not sure my lockout (firm setting) works like it should. Not too many of these forks in here so can't really find a good reference fork to compare :( I have found this video: ua-cam.com/video/RJGxmXIsH3s/v-deo.html. Does this seem right for you or too soft for a firm setting? Mine behaves more or less like seen in this video.
why would you want less travel?
+Nolan 320 sharper handling on twisty but less rough trails.
You can use these for trails but these are primarily designed for dirt jumping and slopestyle applications
Can i use this for dj ?
Probably, but you'll want to add some volume spacers to make it more progressive.
@@ClintGibbs add some volume spacer for diferent travle ?
No, volume spacers decrease air volume which makes the fork more progressive.
Thank you
slightly better suspension performance has way more impact than a 50g difference.
Agree
I would say, stay with the performance of 2016 model. Also from my point of view fox's 2014 forks was a big disappointment.
+1 for rockshox ;)
+Samorak's Technic Vehicles lol nope. charger damper is actual shit
theaveragegamer801 That's why a lot of companies spec their high end bikes with a rockshox fork, right?
its cause Sram has a shit ton of money and they pay them to spec rockshox. not that fox doesn't but they also do motorsport
Maybe he meant 8-10 oz...
Hopefully they don't put the PLASTIC nut on the bottom anymore. Since you have to service them so falkin much! With the 10-20ml of oil they put in the one side of the fork. Every month u have to fill that side of the Fork cause the foam Runs it dry. Without Buying the $50 rebuild kit for a stripped plastic nut on the bottom! Thanks for using our Fun For MONEY Or Else. Bastards...
First world problems.
I think the wal-mart coil forks are way better. I am a professional mtb rider so i know what im talking about. a Magna is ever bit just as good as any of the expensive bike shop bikes. I have won multiple xc races on my magna. my bike only weighs 40 lbs
is this a joke my 180mm freeride bike only weighs 34lbs and that's without a single piece of carbon there
is this a joke my 180mm aluminium freeride bike only weighs 34lbs
What is your opinion on the marin bobcat 9.5
Decent entry level bike, but the fork may need to be upgraded if you plan to hold onto the bike long-term.
+Clint Gibbs thx luv your vids keep up the good work!