Stellaris No Conquest Payback Challenge

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  • @MontuPlays
    @MontuPlays  Рік тому +29

    Check out Oddyssey: Your Space, Your Way in early access here: dared.io/McDfzV8CzRkoFqN38

    • @Ozhar1
      @Ozhar1 Рік тому

      Shared burdens is not communism

  • @joshuawittenberg8975
    @joshuawittenberg8975 Рік тому +723

    Me, who never makes war because it makes me sad: "This is a challenge?"

    • @cosmictim0
      @cosmictim0 Рік тому +6

      SAME 🤣

    • @upgradeplans777
      @upgradeplans777 Рік тому +58

      Same here. This challenge is just the pacifist ethic?? I don't even find fanatic pacifist much more of a challenge than playing with other ethics. (It disallows liberation wars as well.)

    • @prestonjones1653
      @prestonjones1653 Рік тому +67

      I rarely instigate a war because I enjoy building my economy too much

    • @thefurryinyourwalls
      @thefurryinyourwalls Рік тому +2

      Same tho

    • @Best-SiLenZ
      @Best-SiLenZ Рік тому +10

      Well, in this case its a challenge because of the origin force us to have an arch enemy

  • @Elyseon
    @Elyseon Рік тому +267

    The most unrealistic part in this is humanity uniting AND not wanting to get payback.

    • @Death2all546
      @Death2all546 Рік тому +38

      Wanting payback would probably be the most uniting factor.
      Hell, wanting to get payback against Japan is what got America out of the great depression.

  • @franciscoangeles1571
    @franciscoangeles1571 Рік тому +191

    I have to throw in that Switzerland did indeed conduct conquest wars.

    • @MontuPlays
      @MontuPlays  Рік тому +84

      How about my alternative fact that they didn't conduct conquest wars? xD

    • @madiaw5553
      @madiaw5553 Рік тому +10

      I like the fact that nearly half of the war they've fought are offensive

    • @lordzendikar
      @lordzendikar Рік тому +4

      Yeah, we did do that

  • @justinsinke2088
    @justinsinke2088 Рік тому +146

    This is exactly why I don't like forming defensive pacts, especially in the early game; getting dragged into wars I'm in no position to fight and then having my fate tied into the war decisions of an AI empire.

    • @Slav4o911
      @Slav4o911 Рік тому +29

      Better yet, my allies "love" to start wars with fallen empires, which we for some unrealistic reason can't exit.... yes I'm ready to start a "defensive war" against anybody.... but it would be hard with two 40k fleets to beat a fallen empire with 1,2 million fleet.... and "my ally" usually has half strength of my own.... which is "just great" ....also I can't stop the war with the fallen empire.... In a real scenario I would say to them.... "If you feel so suicidal go on... I'm out of this crazy war.... and on top of that never ask me to be your ally ever again...!!!"
      Also I "love" when I'm in a federation to never be able to start a war.... but sometimes one of my federation allys is able to start war with a fallen empire.... there should be a federation policy "never piss off a fallen empire".... Even in late game where we can beat a fallen empire in most cases it's just not worth it. Also they tend to start it when I'm occupied with something else... and I don't want all my fleets to go to one point and literally make my empire defenseless, because all my fleets has to concentrate in one point.

    • @kapadocia-sama3449
      @kapadocia-sama3449 Рік тому +2

      on grand admiral it can save your skin, early authoritarian neighbors are vile beasts

  • @errortrek2290
    @errortrek2290 Рік тому +375

    Not launching offensive wars? This is like my first playtrough

    • @Valysion
      @Valysion Рік тому +22

      This is like my every playthrough because i'm a pacifist at heart.

    • @zealgaming8161
      @zealgaming8161 Рік тому +45

      I too was a pacifist... Until i found out that purging alien scum from the galaxy massively increase my late game fps. Can't make a smooth endgame without cracking a few capitals as they say.

    • @marcosmauricio7805
      @marcosmauricio7805 Рік тому +8

      ​@@zealgaming8161Yeah. I don't run Fanatic Purifiers because I hate xenos, but simply because I hate lag.

    • @primary2630
      @primary2630 Рік тому +1

      Lol the novice fear of attacking other big empires. I feel that for sure. I mostly avoid wars because i hate that 20 years into a war i didnt defend my wormhole and gateway systems enough and now the enemy is in my empire and its gonna take 3 years to get there with my ships

    • @danielramirez1529
      @danielramirez1529 Рік тому +2

      @@marcosmauricio7805 the reminds me of the time I let the Gray Tempest eat half the galaxy. Late game it was running like year 2200 😂.

  • @gurrspar968
    @gurrspar968 Рік тому +27

    This was basically a France game! You were called into a war against a military power based on a defensive pact, lost the war, your empire and your home planet, but your colonies remain.
    My suggestion would be to embrace your inner de Gaulle, use console commands to shift to another human empire, then roleplay your way back to liberating sol together with your Free Human forces and your surviving allies. Personally I'd love to see it.

  • @User08145
    @User08145 Рік тому +58

    Montu: "No one would willingly sign their life away"
    Every military recruiter in the U.S. just started laughing uncontrollable. They have yet to figure out the cause.

  • @Savaris96
    @Savaris96 Рік тому +17

    Ah yes, liberation Wars, my favourite kind of non-aggressive war, right after Total war, which of course is purely defensive, as I do not know how many guns my neighbours might be aiming at me

  • @art-games6230
    @art-games6230 Рік тому +26

    I like how you say that some people are calling for agressive first contact policy, others passive, yet you cannot press either one of these buttons

  • @zordiarkdarkeater8625
    @zordiarkdarkeater8625 Рік тому +74

    He calls it a Challenge.
    I call it an everyday playthrough lol i allways play more of a passive agressive Empire in 4x games. barely ever do wars myself.

    • @MalcadorTheSigilite
      @MalcadorTheSigilite Рік тому +3

      No Xenocide?

    • @art-games6230
      @art-games6230 Рік тому +9

      killing the xenos is the entire thing behind behind stellaris, the only good alien is a dead alien or bubbles

    • @Euruzilys
      @Euruzilys Рік тому +1

      Suffer not the xenos!

    • @LoneWolf343
      @LoneWolf343 11 місяців тому

      Passive aggressive? Do you mutter sarcastically at your neighbors that you're fine with how that they grabbed that territory all for themselves, you totally weren't interested in it yourself?

    • @blueberryiswar
      @blueberryiswar 7 місяців тому

      @@LoneWolf343 and then become their vassal but modify the contract every time so that they pay you more and more for less and less contribution from you.

  • @MrAlex_Raven
    @MrAlex_Raven Рік тому +4

    5:00 I mean you could tried writing something.
    "Having first hand witness the cruelty of a people who haughtily thought they were mightier than the people they sought to conquer; no human would dare subject anyone to such a fate. War if they must, but never to lord over a people as they once were."

  • @IainG10
    @IainG10 Рік тому +63

    I'm gonna recommend Out of the Dark (by David Weber) as good book for anyone interested in the Payback Origin story-wise. It's about humanity defeating technologically superior invaders (and not just relying on bacteria to do it for them....). Has a slightly ridiculous premise in it which is then explained far better in the sequel.

    • @barryfraser831
      @barryfraser831 Рік тому +2

      Ah yes, the best twist in all of science fiction.

    • @rampagesun
      @rampagesun Рік тому +1

      Weber and Ringo are great for Payback themes.

    • @IainG10
      @IainG10 Рік тому

      @Rampage Sun With Weber (haven't read any Ringo) it's the military analysis stuff I really enjoy (muzzle velocities and how they relate to forces delivered at certain ranges etc). I've read Out of the Dark + sequel and all the Safehold stuff; I'll get round to Honor Harrington at some point.

    • @rampagesun
      @rampagesun Рік тому

      @@IainG10 start with John Ringo's "The Hot Gate"

    • @IainG10
      @IainG10 Рік тому +1

      @@rampagesun Live Free or Die is apparently the first in that series, and I've added it to my list. Sadly, it is a very long list, and for every book I read from it, 2 more go on....

  • @the_last.satrap6064
    @the_last.satrap6064 Рік тому +108

    The Modified Churchill speech was INSANE !!!!!🎉

    • @MontuPlays
      @MontuPlays  Рік тому +21

      The first one...
      or the second? ;)

    • @the_last.satrap6064
      @the_last.satrap6064 Рік тому +6

      @@MontuPlays the "we shall fight on the beaches" one at the endings...

  • @Treyast
    @Treyast Рік тому +22

    *"TRY NOT TO EXTERMINATUS CHALLENGE (IMPOSSIBLE) (NOT CLICKBAIT)"*

  • @norymk1
    @norymk1 Рік тому +9

    YESSSS We need more themed playtroughs! multiple 30 minute episodes are perfect!

  • @dyne313
    @dyne313 Рік тому +18

    Not even Fanatic Pacifist. SHAMEFUL.

  • @TheM8
    @TheM8 Рік тому +5

    ...half way thru, you selected nearly every offensive option you got your hands on...

  • @512TheWolf512
    @512TheWolf512 Рік тому +4

    reminds me a little of the "all tomorrows" story. how the big baddies ended up paying for their evil, so satisfying

  • @Cosmic0508_SC
    @Cosmic0508_SC Рік тому +6

    25:00 Winston Churchill would be proud.

  • @jacobhoover1654
    @jacobhoover1654 Рік тому +8

    My favorite challange is preserving as much space from being colonized as possible, like having Consecrated Systems instead of Worlds.

  • @anteep4900
    @anteep4900 Рік тому

    5:02 oH My GoD, i was going to play along with you but now that i saw your sponsor, ive dropped everything to play this amazing game thats totally better than anything else on this channel......... lol

  • @ironclad184
    @ironclad184 Рік тому +7

    Really love the Rp focused challenges, I’m looking forward to more.

  • @amugusq7567
    @amugusq7567 Рік тому +3

    Why not a megacorp? Megacorp liberation wars turn into pure profit.
    And lets be honest - MSI is a threat to free trade.

  • @1fan996
    @1fan996 Рік тому +4

    A brilliant narration, if ever I've heard one!

  • @thebiggaffeur993
    @thebiggaffeur993 Рік тому +2

    The fact that the leader of the war can simply decide your own terms of surrender without any of your own imput is simply bullshit. I mean, in any real situation, a nation could simply go "No, we don't recognise this peace treaty, get lost" and continue fighting. The Japanese didn't surrender at the end of WW2 simply because Germany fell and declared surrender.

  • @matthewshields
    @matthewshields Рік тому +2

    It bugs me that the Commonwealth of Man always thinks you're the United Nations.

  • @noneofyourbusiness4133
    @noneofyourbusiness4133 Рік тому +1

    Smash Announcer: **NO __CON__TEST!!!**

  • @erbomb1
    @erbomb1 Рік тому +5

    I pretty much always play authoritarian goverment types. Recently did a Broken Shackles run as egalitarian xenophile and in order to form my spiritual federation and survive the early game I had to team up with a crime syndicate.

  • @marcosmauricio7805
    @marcosmauricio7805 Рік тому +13

    Here's a nice one for you:
    Try finishing a game as a Fanatic Xenophile/Egalitarian with Xenocompatibility on, large galaxy size, all sliders at maximum.
    Ps: By the way, just noticed while firing up a new game that the very last slider should actually be at the minimum for the purposes of this challenge.

    • @DemonKing19951
      @DemonKing19951 Рік тому +7

      So the challenge is beat the game before everything becomes an impossible slide show? Or I suppose at least play as genocidal as possible to prevent it.

    • @marcosmauricio7805
      @marcosmauricio7805 Рік тому

      @@DemonKing19951 The fanatic xenophile is there as a way to try and prevent that. The more hardcore mode would be to not shift ethics for the entire game. Now that I think about it, pacifist instead of egalitarian would be better there, even if you could still go into liberation wars, that would put a bigger screw on trying to restore FPS to the galaxy.

    • @DemonKing19951
      @DemonKing19951 Рік тому

      @@marcosmauricio7805 You would still have access to doing damage through bombardment, but after the 3.8 update they'd surrender too quickly with the limitations all that implies.

    • @lucjanl1262
      @lucjanl1262 Рік тому +2

      Solution - go psionic as second ascention perk, try to roll divine sovereign to remove all your ethics, finish the psionics tree and pick become the crisis as 3 ascention perk

    • @DemonKing19951
      @DemonKing19951 Рік тому +1

      @@lucjanl1262 I feel like both of those options defeat the point of the challenge run. Kind of the point is you're supposed to work through the fact you can't easily murder anyone you want.

  • @irrefutablefox2388
    @irrefutablefox2388 Рік тому +1

    The story that you make along these videos is top tier enjoyment.

  • @dyne313
    @dyne313 Рік тому +11

    This is a Challenge?
    I thought this was how you were supposed to play.

  • @BighairyAmericanwinningmachine
    @BighairyAmericanwinningmachine Рік тому +34

    to people who ask why this is a challenge, you don't know the agony because you clearly haven't committed genocide on a galactic scale

  • @psf95
    @psf95 Рік тому +1

    I'm not a huge Stellaris fan, I play it once in a while, but I love watching your challenges just for your storytelling :)

  • @Freelmeister-
    @Freelmeister- Рік тому +2

    Looking at these leaders compared to galactic paragons leaders makes me laugh.

  • @AsbestosMuffins
    @AsbestosMuffins Місяць тому

    the united earth government of "Screw that guy!" united by the grand unifiying theory of screw that guy

  • @BlackReshiram
    @BlackReshiram Рік тому

    bro this was so much fun to watch! you should absolutely try it again!

  • @loleo6556
    @loleo6556 Рік тому +2

    No offensive war?
    That's just a normal Game of stellaris for me

  • @RobT192
    @RobT192 Рік тому

    24:47 You went full Churchill bro, nice speech

  • @manatocmunkey
    @manatocmunkey Рік тому +1

    This as a really fun one to watch, would like to watch another that they survive

  • @nicwaters4808
    @nicwaters4808 Рік тому

    "tasty, tasty dinner"
    hive mind assimilation only when

  • @Reoh0z
    @Reoh0z Рік тому +2

    I'm a fan of no conquest runs. I still flip AI opponents into allies, but I have WAY LESS ANNOYING TEDIUM with managing the empire mid to late game.

  • @Decimus-Magnus
    @Decimus-Magnus Рік тому +1

    I am going to finally play with this origin for my first 3.8 playthrough that I'm about to start. I was going to try it in 3.7 but decided to go with the Lost Colony and the Relic homeworld origin (again!).

  • @Juhnte
    @Juhnte Рік тому +1

    You should have choosed to repay your debt to MSI

    • @MontuPlays
      @MontuPlays  Рік тому +1

      But I won the war against MSI ... The second war they were just an ally of the empire fighting my defensive ally

    • @Juhnte
      @Juhnte Рік тому +1

      @@MontuPlays BAD SUBJECTS DON'T REPAY THEIR DEBTS BRRRR

  • @somewhere7565
    @somewhere7565 Рік тому

    i mostly never do wars, now that we have the empire size mechanic fanatic pascifist became my favourite

  • @snatcherthegreatone328
    @snatcherthegreatone328 Рік тому

    The Churchill speech goes CRAZY though

  • @mccarthy86
    @mccarthy86 Рік тому +1

    I'm Swiss German and we are very much not communist, I would say we are more like middle Americans, in that we are very patriotic, love guns, love our freedom and hate the idea of big government. People are always surprised when they come here, how conservative Swiss people are. A space Switzerland would be very isolationist and self sufficient, would have a very large defensive army, the government would be fragmented like a confederacy, it would have a military culture where all the men are soldiers. And they would invade any Italians nearby XD

  • @darandomator4010
    @darandomator4010 10 місяців тому

    This is literally how I play most of my games. It got boring at one point so I created some custom enemy empires to populate my map who would give me an excuse to be more active.

  • @frankhorrigan3867
    @frankhorrigan3867 Рік тому +1

    I usually try to play like this but once an ai empire takes a relic all bets are down

  • @kbfrancis7092
    @kbfrancis7092 Рік тому

    I frequently play with "Pacifist," and somehow end up with the most powerful fleet in the galaxy.

  • @zigo2267
    @zigo2267 Рік тому +4

    Отличная работа, товарищ.

  • @rjagad
    @rjagad Рік тому +4

    This is... Something

    • @MontuPlays
      @MontuPlays  Рік тому +2

      One of the playthroughs of all time

  • @VORASTRA
    @VORASTRA Рік тому +1

    I USUALLY tend to not launch offensive wars in my games. It's due to my approach to this game, political aspect interests me more than wars. But usually it ends up like 3 wars inside my federation, one of them is because one of my allies pisses off fallen empire.

  • @Willow4526
    @Willow4526 Рік тому +6

    No one would sign away their rights...
    _The working class entered the chat_

  • @Miranda17137
    @Miranda17137 Рік тому +1

    I'm a little hype for the new Crusader State civic for this

  • @jorgecartagena7594
    @jorgecartagena7594 Рік тому

    the real hero of all this, Ibrahim

  • @mr.spleens7800
    @mr.spleens7800 Рік тому

    Love your playthroughs

  • @PatrickNerdu744
    @PatrickNerdu744 Рік тому +3

    Long live Humanity!

  • @gwynm8506
    @gwynm8506 Рік тому

    I have a build I call the Spanish Inquisition. It’s just a regular clone army death cult metabuild, but at year 35 I always declare war on as many people as I can to change ideology

  • @StephenSaid
    @StephenSaid Рік тому +3

    That was thoroughly enjoyable. I love a good rp game. How about one where you are a cloaking obsessed Romulan type empire? Or a cloaking obsessed criminal mega corp?

  • @alfadorfox
    @alfadorfox Рік тому

    This is just how I play. When I had a hive mind and a machine intelligence box me in, I thought "oh well, guess I'm going tall." Then I built up enough influence to hop over the machines and do the solarpunk questline for a gaia world. When Minamar attacked, they took decades just to make their way through my allies, and only took a few systems before I status quo'd out. And since they didn't have claims on any of my systems, it was a white peace. Nearly half a century of war for no change. Except that the allies who'd each once offered to vassalize me before settling in on defensive pacts, now instead offered to become my vassals. A while later, and tons of research from the MSI Flagship Habitat, and I notice that my machine vassal is conquering a nearby tiny megacorp, removing their branches from my worlds. I check and... "Slavery type: Grid Amalgamation" Slavery. In MY vassal?! NOPE. Integrated. The machine pops get disassembled, but yeah I threw the trolley switch to run over one machine sapience to save zillions from energy drain slavery. The Broken Shackles empire actually ended up as an authoritarian megacorp somehow, and hated me for about a century because I tried hacking them in first contact. We're Federation buddies now but they've got Existential Expulsion casus belli on me, so I know exactly what that means... In the meantime MSI got wrecked by a machine uprising and the Great Khan at the same time, so I took the opportunity to Secret Fealty-steal two of their vassals away. Currently building an Interstellar Assembly so I can pass the right senate acts and thwart MSI without (further) violence.

    • @alfadorfox
      @alfadorfox Рік тому

      I haven't laid a single claim on another empire's system, even in a defensive war. The only claims I conquered were for one of the vassals I was liberating.

  • @MadCatYeet
    @MadCatYeet Рік тому +2

    This looks like an utopia to me

  • @johnl9763
    @johnl9763 Рік тому

    The Nobodies of Nowhere would be a great name for the hidey origin.

  • @Matt-qt1oh
    @Matt-qt1oh Рік тому +4

    Uploaded 13 seconds ago. Love it.

  • @taari1
    @taari1 Рік тому

    Ah yes, the obligatory Jeff appearance.

  • @Gilgwathir
    @Gilgwathir Рік тому

    24:55 Nice Churchill refrence there

  • @jeiwxlf7393
    @jeiwxlf7393 Рік тому

    Amazing man, well done.

  • @varemenos
    @varemenos Рік тому

    So basically the reverse Greater Terran Union from stellaris invicta.

  • @gkagara
    @gkagara 3 місяці тому

    It is possible to build tall and not invading but probably not with this origin

  • @izunachu
    @izunachu Рік тому

    I love these long form rp videos!

  • @teekavu1065
    @teekavu1065 Рік тому

    Your Churchill speech is wonderful! I rarely give like to anyone.However for this one here take my like.

  • @cyber_engine
    @cyber_engine Рік тому +1

    You must replay in one more time. It would be better if you play as a imperial pacifist who are having wars by other hands. Something like subsidizing your vassals

  • @xXtylermhigginsXx
    @xXtylermhigginsXx 3 місяці тому

    i almost always play as a peacefull empire . i dont like to attack anyone. i usually just play as a peaceful machine Gestalt and go tall. i usually still win on grand admiral as long as the crisis doesnt get out of hand

  • @cybren3003
    @cybren3003 Рік тому +13

    It’s not dystopian it’s post apocalyptic

  • @creeper2740
    @creeper2740 Рік тому +1

    I would love to see you continue as the human star alliance owo

    • @MontuPlays
      @MontuPlays  Рік тому +1

      Now that is an idea... What would the challenge be? 'Liberate Earth & Defeat MSI challenge'?

    • @creeper2740
      @creeper2740 Рік тому

      @@MontuPlays sounds great. or because its an empire not to liberate but to conquer it back from the hands of msi

  • @foreignfat6009
    @foreignfat6009 Рік тому

    I feel like minimar should be a fallen empire.

  • @dumamilk
    @dumamilk Рік тому

    hoping the terrorist known as warpole makes an appearance.

  • @xpc39
    @xpc39 Рік тому

    Lots of laffs in this one. Thanks Montu~

  • @amarktho
    @amarktho Рік тому

    I feel like Switzerspace was a missed opportunity

  • @Gmandancer
    @Gmandancer Рік тому

    When I play as a mega Corp I tend to not declare war on anyone

    • @amugusq7567
      @amugusq7567 Рік тому

      Even on on other megacorps? Impose ideology on them.

  • @atomictomfoolery4400
    @atomictomfoolery4400 Рік тому

    My uplifted Vassal from the start of one run I did had this challenge, was because it was one system and no contact with the rest of the galaxy.😅

  • @anarchosnowflakist786
    @anarchosnowflakist786 Рік тому +3

    I think what this really shows is that diplomacy and galactic 'geo'-politics could really be improved, imagine in WW2, "oh france has capitulated ? well, we lost, I guess we should let the nazis in then"

  • @Michael-yf1wo
    @Michael-yf1wo Рік тому +2

    More videos like this please!

  • @trap631
    @trap631 Рік тому

    Not me this being how I play most of my games 💀

  • @thegeneralscall
    @thegeneralscall Місяць тому

    The irony of being a pacifist and than probably being in more wars than most of your playthroughs.

  • @Elyseon
    @Elyseon Рік тому

    Restart. Reveal map. Force spawn colossi over MSI worlds. Destroy. Destroy. Destroy.

  • @kbaptiste28
    @kbaptiste28 Рік тому

    shout out to my boy ibrahim khadem. all my homies [discover] the scientific method.

  • @letsplaysvonaja1714
    @letsplaysvonaja1714 Рік тому +2

    ngl, I rarely do much conquest anyways XD
    I'm too busy managing the economy and expanding into the space I already own

    • @art-games6230
      @art-games6230 Рік тому +1

      Killing the xenos is the thing that makes stellaris what it is, no alien is good, except maybe bubbles

  • @0Kasada
    @0Kasada Рік тому

    "No offensive wars!"
    ...So... a totally normal game of Stellaris like every single other?

  • @DanjasLP
    @DanjasLP 6 місяців тому

    Going from a devastating war to something that could be considered pacifist in a way actually happened after WW1. So it's not too unrealistic, imo

  • @jamesgoines4635
    @jamesgoines4635 Рік тому

    I think if he Vassalised that first empire he would have won no doubt but he was role playing. Fun video even if you lose. Look at Ep3o and all the challenges he lost lol.

  • @DawezyDRK
    @DawezyDRK Рік тому

    "Australia" Class Colony ship .. you think the Devs meme'd that combination of ship class and name in? 😅🤔

  • @JoeJackaboa
    @JoeJackaboa Рік тому

    32:30 onwards Montu past bedtime

  • @chrisb9143
    @chrisb9143 Рік тому

    Clerks are always the way to go

  • @unknow11712
    @unknow11712 Рік тому +2

    i mean... if you can vassalize what is the problem of not declaring war first? :O ...

  • @arsov9885
    @arsov9885 Рік тому

    Space Switzerland? But liberation wars is exacly what US Army do... ?!

  • @arsov9885
    @arsov9885 Рік тому

    Great video. Thank you.

  • @UHEBallOfSomething
    @UHEBallOfSomething Рік тому

    I wonder what happens if you set the aggression to high...

  • @danielramirez1529
    @danielramirez1529 Рік тому +2

    So its possible to get COM and the broken shackles empire appear in the same game if you play with an Earth start? And this is with the COM faction having the lost colony origin too? I want to know. That was a cool setup man.

    • @gumdrop_galaxy
      @gumdrop_galaxy Рік тому

      I think it's actually guaranteed to spawn a broken shackles empire with your species as the main one if you are payback

  • @eatham.
    @eatham. Рік тому

    Least pacifist playthrough I've ever seen. You did more wars than I did when I played this as militarist xD.