Nice vid man, thanks for sharing. The Behringers are a great investment even if you are not on a budget, the trick is to learn how they translate sound , i would reccomend trialing the best settings on the back panel. You can find them for cheap these days.
Thanks for the recording, buying decision made. Can get a new pair 2031 for 330€...The difference was not that much as I expected, ok, I used behringer Headphones 😉😅 Amazing clarity, think it will do the job for my records and keyboard. Like the ports on the front and the whole appearance. Let the music play 😎Greetings from Germany
The problem of the comparison is that these tested pairs are not of the same height - that's why you might get an impression that JBL sound a way better, as the mics were centralized mostly to them and not to Behringer ones (sweet spot issue:-). Anyway, I also agree that Truth B2030A are fantastic piece of gear for any kind of application & also fully recommend them.
HAMMERHEART OFFICIAL Universal Audio, as well as most speaker manufacturers, quote the “sweet spot” as “within 30 deg of direct path”. You are correct in noticing that the B2030A high frequency drivers were 127mm below horizontal while the JBLs were level. However, the mics were placed 1530mm away from the monitors, yielding a tweeter dispersion angle of 4.67deg to the mic transducers. Hardly enough to get them out of the “sweet spot”. The effect was negligible and I didn’t want to alter mic placement.
"You can't listen David Byrne and not dance or thank crazy thoughts" like repenting and turn away from sin and into God's hands :D Great test...I'm looking into buying the bigger brother of Behringer, B2031A's. Good luck with your channel, man, I really appreciate the time you put into this test and remember: Hebrews 12:14 "Make every effort to live in peace with everyone and to be holy; without holiness no one will see the Lord."
Hi ! i was thinking about that model myself as well ... but i wonder if the 8" woofer could have some issues in the range 1kHz - 2 kHz ... a smaller woofer would produce less bass for sure but maybe a better midrange ? i understand that TOTL recording monitors are usually 3 ways for this reason ?
@@gino3286They arrived a few days ago and I enjoy them very much. They are huge, but they sound great. I don't know what to say about the possible issues you mentioned, but you can always tweak their sound via an equalizer to your liking. I also had JBL LRS 305, Focal Alpha 65, Presonus Eris E5 and I liked them too, but the bigger the woofer, the better the sound, or at least that is my humble opinion. I used to spend large sums of money on my "toys", but experience has taught me that you don't have to empty your pockets to find something very good, of course, as long as you don't put a price on the brand.
@@RauBogdan hi thank you for the very kind and helpful advice To be honest I have a pair stored away but not because i don't like them actually the contrary I am very busy with my work now What do you use to drive them? I guess balanced connections should be best option
@@gino3286 I'm not into audio production yet, so I didn't invest too much into audio equipment. For the time being I connect them directly into my PC. I have an Assus Xonar Essence Stx sound card and that's good enough for me. As for the cables I have some RCA to XLR which are fine. There is a very slight ground hum but I don't mind it since my 200mm fans are way nosier :)) The noise tends to raise a bit when my old GPU is running hot (Amd r9 380). Good luck with your work, but don't forget God. I used to be a very successful man. I had everything I wanted and lived as I wanted (I was a convinced atheist) until I started reading about Freemasonry, Occultism and Satanism. That led me to the Bible and after reading it my life changed 180 degrees. My video testimony I think would lift your hair off your feet, but it's in my native language. I just want to tell you that ... those testimonies with people who say they had supernatural experiences with demons are true :( This world has many substrates, and only after reading the Bible you really discover what's the whole point with this life. God is not only real, but it also asks us to repent and sanctify ourselves every single day. I had a lot of supernatural experiences after reading the Bible and few people would believe what I have to say. *1 Peter 4:18* - And“If the righteous man is scarcely saved,where will the impious and sinner appear?” *1 John 3:9-10* - No one born of God commits sin; for God’s nature abides in him, and he cannot sin because he is born of God. By this it may be seen who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not do right is not of God, nor he who does not love his brother.
@@RauBogdan thank you very much again I bought my pair used from a small studio that was upgrading mostly for the need to show pricier equipment to the customers They told me that they were good enough for many aspects I have a di myself long term project to replace woofers but it is just an idea Kind regards Gino
Excellent recording technique! I had the Behringers and while they do sound great the JBL's smoke them in every way from what I'm hearing. Like in a not even close way. The JBLs playback sounds more like the actual CD and you can just hear more. All the low end, low mid, higher mid, and treble ranges are there in a more linear fashion. The JBLs sound more like what the engineer was intending to do. Whereas the Behringers upper mids are too much and make the mix sound a bit plasticy/artificial.
Melvin Vasquez I cant disagree. The Behringers are definitely harsh. But for someone just starting out, I think are a good value and can be used to create a decent mix. I use them as a portable monitor for my synths when I don’t want to fire up my studio equipment. I trust my judgement when creating new synth patches with them. But I rarely mix on them because they can get tiring on the ears, even with the treble cut and the bass boosted. Have you tried the 2031s (8” woofer I believe)? Possibly the same harshness?
@@6dbthreshold I agree that Behringers have a high performance to price ratio and you could def mix on them once you learn their sound - having a great reference mix is key! With the JBLs it appears you could get there much faster and probably without a reference.The Behringers aren't bad for instrumental production which is what I used them for in the past. I had the 6.75 inch woofer version but I would image the 8inch would have more bass perhaps balancing them out more right out the box. They also made the B3030A version with ribbon style tweeters which to my ears do sound more smoother and open for the upper mid and treble ranges.
excellent video.. the JBL sure sound somewhat fuller on the low end, but after the calibration it felt like the Behringer got much closer to the JBL sound. I actually own a pair of b2030a and was considering replacing them with the yamaha hs5, but I guess I'll just stick to them for now, as I'm not getting to the JBL realm anyhow.. I'm on Logic Pro too and would like to know more about calibration with pink noise, any tips/sources on that? cheers!
Have you looked at the B2031A monitors? I wished I would have purchased those instead. $200ea. 8.75” woofers, larger amplifiers. For pink noise calibration, you will need some sort of spl meter. I have a cheap radio shack meter. Simply create an analog track in logic and insert the “utility test/osc” plugin. You can select several noise types or specific frequencies. Use pink noise instead of white noise since pink noise mimics the human ear response to sound energy between 20-20khz. Then simply adjust the gain of each monitor (at the speaker itself) until you reach the same number (85db) on the spl meter that is “listening” to the speakers. Do this for each pair of speakers you want to compare.
@@6dbthreshold thanks for the response! Very interesting, I thought you had done frequency compensation on the Behringers themselves, but actually you only adjusted the gain. is that right? that's even more impressive! I'll mess around with the utility oscilator, thank you!
Leo Aquino I only gain matched the monitors to 85db at the seating position. I didn’t use any frequency compensation on either set of monitors. Yes, Behringers do have a harsher top end than the JBLs. So I normally use the -2db adjustment when mixing with them.
Hi ! thank you so much for this very very valuable video. I am buying a pair of these Behringer in the weekend. I have a question. Given their unbelievably low price i think that the main cons they can have can be related to the quality of the drivers. I wonder how with a little DIY replacing especially the woofer (usually the worst piece) with a better one can improve the overall sound. Imho the drivers and their quality set the max performance we can get from a speaker. I assume that the electronics even if cheap could be just fine. And so the tweeter. But the woofer must be really crap ... it is not possible to keep the price so down otherwise. The fact that nonetheless they sound so good is a very good point for the active speakers concept. Am i right ? thanks again and kind regards, gino
Hello Gino. Thanks for watching the video. Appreciate the good will. My advice would be to NOT replace any components as monitor speakers are designed to work as a system. The crossovers, cabinet dimensions, and speaker and amp compliance are all taken into account and work together as a system. I have built several full range speakers as well as subwoofers and discovered that it's almost impossible to build a good sounding speaker without taking the time to implement the Thiele/Small parameters. And those typically ignore the amplifier driving the speakers. "Great" sounding speakers usually have a very high Qes(damping or resistance to movement) and require a large/stable amplifier (low impedance) to drive them. Self-powered monitors are designed with this impedance ratio in mind. Most aftermarket speakers have low compliance so that they are "louder" at the same amplifier output. We naturally perceive louder as being better - which is a big mistake when mixing music. I haven't taken the Behringer's apart yet, but I suspect they're relatively durable. My best advice is to just go listen to some monitors and let that be your guide. Have fun shopping. Best wishes.
@@6dbthreshold Hi ! thank you so much for your very kind and valuable advice. You say ""Great" sounding speakers usually have a very high Qes(damping or resistance to movement) and require a large/stable amplifier (low impedance) to drive them" and what about the Qts ? better high or low ? i am asking this because i have been watching at JBL vintage woofers Some have magnets almost as big as their basket/frame. And as a result their Qts is very low, in the region of 0.2 let's say. This is a very expensive design choice. Why would they do that if a high Qts would sound better ? i have listened to JBL bass in the form of the L166 Horizon model. That was one of the best bass i have ever heard. Magnificient power and control.
gino Hello again. I should have clarified that high Qes drivers sound “great” to my ears. I tend to prefer tighter bass, but that means booming bass will suffer. I like low Qts drivers as well. But now the speaker is generally less efficient, requiring more power. I guess I should have said that it is important to match the speaker parameters with the enclosure and crossovers and amplifiers to get the best total frequency response. Check out the B2031A review on noaudiophile.com. The woofers appear to have pretty large magnets. Although I haven’t tried to measure the speaker parameters, I suspect they probably have lower Qts parameters.
@@6dbthreshold Thank you very much again. I am not an expert so i will follow your advice. I will keep the speakers as they are without trying risky mods. Kind regards, gino
Het there, thanks for the vid. I have a question since you seem very knowledgeable within this field. I have a pair of Truth B2031A, that has been working flawlessly since 2009. But now, my left one (or I guess it doesn't matter which side. For me its left :) ) is now turning itself off within like 10-60 minutes after start up. It does work however, because if I shut it off/on it works again. I don't know too much about the technical aspects, but I guess it could be some sort of overheating, but the issue is that if I restart the speaker, it can work for another 60 minutes. So basically Works -> goes silent -> restart -> works and so on. Is there anything you might know about this? I would be grateful since I am on a tight budget...although if its not fixable it might give me a reason to get the HS8..will check more of your vids!
Sorry to hear about your bad luck. I can't find the schematics online, but I did google "B2031A randomly shutting down". I found a few people have had issues with the TO220 style voltage regulators (B7915A or B7815A) overheating and replaced them. Are you comfortable with soldering and working with electronics? If so, unplug them, let them sit 20 minutes, and then remove the circuit boards and check for hot spots or cracked solder joints on the circuit boards. Connections can fail when the amplifiers heat up. Make sure the speakers been powered off for a while so the capacitors can discharge - shock hazards exist. I've got lucky before with other intermittent amplifiers by simply cleaning the circuit boards with compressed air and re-soldering cracked solder joints. If I see hot spots around any Intergrated Circuits (op amps or voltage regulators), I'll replace those if they are relatively cheap (less than $5.00). Some of the ICs have heat sinks - they are bolted to chunks of metal to dissipate heat - often with white heat transfer compound between the device and metal . Heat related issues often occur at the heat sinked components. I can't find the schematics or service manual - those can be helpful if they give component part numbers or circuit testpoint voltages. But I'm not a bench tech - just giving you some ideas. I've got lucky about 30% of the time by just looking for hot spots or cracked solder or circuit board traces. The bad thing about Behringer is also the good thing: They are cheap. You've got 13 years out of them. Many people (including myself), destroy speakers by listening too loud or not limiting the signal appropriately. Behringer is a cheap way to learn that lesson with relatively good sounding but cheap equipment. Here's the link I found about the voltage regulators. www.fixya.com/support/t735830-behringer_truth_b2031a_active_speakers Good Luck. If you can't fix them - you aren't out a lot of money -
@@6dbthreshold Hello sir, and thank you kindly for your reply. I basically gave up after the soldering part, as this is something I have never done and a bit afraid to do. I have a neighbor who knows this stuff and will certainly ask him if he understands the part you wrote about replacing it. I think its worth a shot. But other than that, you are right, I did get 13 years form them, and they have been through some rough times (moved almost 5 times since that) and they have survived a lot of things. So I was quite happy and with tears in my eyes hwn I know understood that I have to let these go soon. I think for the time being, I can survive with turning them on /off, but in the long run I think I will invest in some HS8. However, rarely do I find someone who goes out of their way to help someone, so I'm an truly humbled that you replied to me. Sorry, English is not my native language, so I might use some expressions the wrong way, but I do hope you understand what I mean. Big thanks again.
@Smit Miras. Your English is very good. I don’t mind replying as I have a small channel and enjoy the hobby. I know how it feels when you get used to a music tool and it fails you. And while the Behringer monitors are not expensive for monitors, they still cost a lot more than other necessities. Best wishes in your repair or replacement. Sorry I couldn’t help more. But if you had problems, I might experience problems too. So I was interested in looking. Behringer gear has a bad reputation. Sometimes for valid reasons. But they have improved a lot and are making the hobby cheaper. So I try to give honest opinions. Behringer can also engage in less than honest business practices. So they are a bit of a mixed blessing.
I like the JBLs much better. But the JBLs have larger drivers and amplifiers. Behringer makes a B2031A which is larger and has more power. I haven’t heard them, but suspect they would compare even better.
@@6dbthreshold I have the 2031A, had them for maybe 15 years or so now. I've never had anything to compare them side by side with and I have sometimes wondered if I should invest in a more high end pair, but in the end, I hear what I need to hear, they do a great job. It's just my mixing that needed work..
The Behringer B2030A sounds more balanced, Than the JBL's which has a 5 k boost it sounds maybe3.5k but I like the Behringer B2030A more, I would think mastering on the JBL would give you a more dull sound because of that high boost. the Behringer B2030A had no distortion, the JBL was on had too much 3-5K other than that they sound good also. Behringer B2030A sounds more correct.
TheFinaly97 Thanks for the comment. Do you hear the reverb in higher frequencies? I don’t fully understand your comment. However, the Behringer’s definitely have a harsher top end and I didn’t engage the high frequency reduction switch on them. Perhaps this created more room reverb relative to the smoother JBL output? I kept microphone gain and placement the same. The only change was the speakers. I measured the distance off and didn’t elevate them to match tweeter heights of the JBLs. In any case, thanks for listening and commenting. It helps me learn.
Im picking up a pair of 2030a today. Im not gonna use them as my main studio for mixing. Im gonna put them in my rehersal room were the other guitarist and i jam and also record some ideas. How do i set them up so they sound the best in a wide open space? I know they are near field monitors, but for $50 i just must buy them :) They gonna stand with the back close to a wall, but thats the only wall close to them. Ther are alot of settings on the backside :)
I never monitor thru studio monitor speakers if I have a live mic or guitar amp going in the same room. Feedback will destroy the tweeters quickly and you probably cant get the monitors loud enough to jam with (unless you are using acoustic guitars or a di source like a preamp rack or keyboard). I’ve blown up many stereo and monitor speakers when trying to use them as a PA speaker. You’ll always want louder when playing live. Musicians curse.
Great video. Don't buy something just for the "brand name", buy what sounds good!
Nice vid man, thanks for sharing. The Behringers are a great investment even if you are not on a budget, the trick is to learn how they translate sound , i would reccomend trialing the best settings on the back panel. You can find them for cheap these days.
Thanks for the recording, buying decision made. Can get a new pair 2031 for 330€...The difference was not that much as I expected, ok, I used behringer Headphones 😉😅 Amazing clarity, think it will do the job for my records and keyboard. Like the ports on the front and the whole appearance. Let the music play 😎Greetings from Germany
The problem of the comparison is that these tested pairs are not of the same height - that's why you might get an impression that JBL sound a way better, as the mics were centralized mostly to them and not to Behringer ones (sweet spot issue:-). Anyway, I also agree that Truth B2030A are fantastic piece of gear for any kind of application & also fully recommend them.
HAMMERHEART OFFICIAL Universal Audio, as well as most speaker manufacturers, quote the “sweet spot” as “within 30 deg of direct path”. You are correct in noticing that the B2030A high frequency drivers were 127mm below horizontal while the JBLs were level. However, the mics were placed 1530mm away from the monitors, yielding a tweeter dispersion angle of 4.67deg to the mic transducers. Hardly enough to get them out of the “sweet spot”. The effect was negligible and I didn’t want to alter mic placement.
I've used these as my A monitors for several years and I dig them.
Hi sorry which ones ? to buy what ?
Not a lot of difference in bass, but the jbl's have a better stereo field
"You can't listen David Byrne and not dance or thank crazy thoughts" like repenting and turn away from sin and into God's hands :D
Great test...I'm looking into buying the bigger brother of Behringer, B2031A's.
Good luck with your channel, man, I really appreciate the time you put into this test and remember: Hebrews 12:14 "Make every effort to live in peace with everyone and to be holy; without holiness no one will see the Lord."
Hi ! i was thinking about that model myself as well ... but i wonder if the 8" woofer could have some issues in the range 1kHz - 2 kHz ... a smaller woofer would produce less bass for sure but maybe a better midrange ? i understand that TOTL recording monitors are usually 3 ways for this reason ?
@@gino3286They arrived a few days ago and I enjoy them very much. They are huge, but they sound great. I don't know what to say about the possible issues you mentioned, but you can always tweak their sound via an equalizer to your liking.
I also had JBL LRS 305, Focal Alpha 65, Presonus Eris E5 and I liked them too, but the bigger the woofer, the better the sound, or at least that is my humble opinion.
I used to spend large sums of money on my "toys", but experience has taught me that you don't have to empty your pockets to find something very good, of course, as long as you don't put a price on the brand.
@@RauBogdan hi thank you for the very kind and helpful advice To be honest I have a pair stored away but not because i don't like them actually the contrary I am very busy with my work now What do you use to drive them? I guess balanced connections should be best option
@@gino3286 I'm not into audio production yet, so I didn't invest too much into audio equipment. For the time being I connect them directly into my PC. I have an Assus Xonar Essence Stx sound card and that's good enough for me. As for the cables I have some RCA to XLR which are fine.
There is a very slight ground hum but I don't mind it since my 200mm fans are way nosier :)) The noise tends to raise a bit when my old GPU is running hot (Amd r9 380).
Good luck with your work, but don't forget God.
I used to be a very successful man. I had everything I wanted and lived as I wanted (I was a convinced atheist) until I started reading about Freemasonry, Occultism and Satanism. That led me to the Bible and after reading it my life changed 180 degrees.
My video testimony I think would lift your hair off your feet, but it's in my native language. I just want to tell you that ... those testimonies with people who say they had supernatural experiences with demons are true :(
This world has many substrates, and only after reading the Bible you really discover what's the whole point with this life.
God is not only real, but it also asks us to repent and sanctify ourselves every single day.
I had a lot of supernatural experiences after reading the Bible and few people would believe what I have to say.
*1 Peter 4:18* - And“If the righteous man is scarcely saved,where will the impious and sinner appear?”
*1 John 3:9-10* -
No one born of God commits sin; for God’s nature abides in him, and he cannot sin because he is born of God. By this it may be seen who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not do right is not of God, nor he who does not love his brother.
@@RauBogdan thank you very much again I bought my pair used from a small studio that was upgrading mostly for the need to show pricier equipment to the customers They told me that they were good enough for many aspects I have a di myself long term project to replace woofers but it is just an idea Kind regards Gino
Excellent recording technique! I had the Behringers and while they do sound great the JBL's smoke them in every way from what I'm hearing. Like in a not even close way. The JBLs playback sounds more like the actual CD and you can just hear more. All the low end, low mid, higher mid, and treble ranges are there in a more linear fashion. The JBLs sound more like what the engineer was intending to do. Whereas the Behringers upper mids are too much and make the mix sound a bit plasticy/artificial.
Melvin Vasquez I cant disagree. The Behringers are definitely harsh. But for someone just starting out, I think are a good value and can be used to create a decent mix. I use them as a portable monitor for my synths when I don’t want to fire up my studio equipment. I trust my judgement when creating new synth patches with them. But I rarely mix on them because they can get tiring on the ears, even with the treble cut and the bass boosted. Have you tried the 2031s (8” woofer I believe)? Possibly the same harshness?
@@6dbthreshold I agree that Behringers have a high performance to price ratio and you could def mix on them once you learn their sound - having a great reference mix is key! With the JBLs it appears you could get there much faster and probably without a reference.The Behringers aren't bad for instrumental production which is what I used them for in the past. I had the 6.75 inch woofer version but I would image the 8inch would have more bass perhaps balancing them out more right out the box. They also made the B3030A version with ribbon style tweeters which to my ears do sound more smoother and open for the upper mid and treble ranges.
excellent video.. the JBL sure sound somewhat fuller on the low end, but after the calibration it felt like the Behringer got much closer to the JBL sound. I actually own a pair of b2030a and was considering replacing them with the yamaha hs5, but I guess I'll just stick to them for now, as I'm not getting to the JBL realm anyhow.. I'm on Logic Pro too and would like to know more about calibration with pink noise, any tips/sources on that? cheers!
Have you looked at the B2031A monitors? I wished I would have purchased those instead. $200ea. 8.75” woofers, larger amplifiers. For pink noise calibration, you will need some sort of spl meter. I have a cheap radio shack meter. Simply create an analog track in logic and insert the “utility test/osc” plugin. You can select several noise types or specific frequencies. Use pink noise instead of white noise since pink noise mimics the human ear response to sound energy between 20-20khz. Then simply adjust the gain of each monitor (at the speaker itself) until you reach the same number (85db) on the spl meter that is “listening” to the speakers. Do this for each pair of speakers you want to compare.
@@6dbthreshold thanks for the response! Very interesting, I thought you had done frequency compensation on the Behringers themselves, but actually you only adjusted the gain. is that right? that's even more impressive! I'll mess around with the utility oscilator, thank you!
Leo Aquino I only gain matched the monitors to 85db at the seating position. I didn’t use any frequency compensation on either set of monitors. Yes, Behringers do have a harsher top end than the JBLs. So I normally use the -2db adjustment when mixing with them.
Hi ! thank you so much for this very very valuable video. I am buying a pair of these Behringer in the weekend. I have a question. Given their unbelievably low price i think that the main cons they can have can be related to the quality of the drivers. I wonder how with a little DIY replacing especially the woofer (usually the worst piece) with a better one can improve the overall sound. Imho the drivers and their quality set the max performance we can get from a speaker. I assume that the electronics even if cheap could be just fine. And so the tweeter. But the woofer must be really crap ... it is not possible to keep the price so down otherwise. The fact that nonetheless they sound so good is a very good point for the active speakers concept. Am i right ? thanks again and kind regards, gino
Hello Gino. Thanks for watching the video. Appreciate the good will. My advice would be to NOT replace any components as monitor speakers are designed to work as a system. The crossovers, cabinet dimensions, and speaker and amp compliance are all taken into account and work together as a system. I have built several full range speakers as well as subwoofers and discovered that it's almost impossible to build a good sounding speaker without taking the time to implement the Thiele/Small parameters. And those typically ignore the amplifier driving the speakers. "Great" sounding speakers usually have a very high Qes(damping or resistance to movement) and require a large/stable amplifier (low impedance) to drive them. Self-powered monitors are designed with this impedance ratio in mind. Most aftermarket speakers have low compliance so that they are "louder" at the same amplifier output. We naturally perceive louder as being better - which is a big mistake when mixing music. I haven't taken the Behringer's apart yet, but I suspect they're relatively durable. My best advice is to just go listen to some monitors and let that be your guide. Have fun shopping. Best wishes.
@@6dbthreshold Hi ! thank you so much for your very kind and valuable advice. You say ""Great" sounding speakers usually have a very high Qes(damping or resistance to movement) and require a large/stable amplifier (low impedance) to drive them" and what about the Qts ? better high or low ? i am asking this because i have been watching at JBL vintage woofers Some have magnets almost as big as their basket/frame. And as a result their Qts is very low, in the region of 0.2 let's say. This is a very expensive design choice. Why would they do that if a high Qts would sound better ? i have listened to JBL bass in the form of the L166 Horizon model. That was one of the best bass i have ever heard. Magnificient power and control.
gino Hello again. I should have clarified that high Qes drivers sound “great” to my ears. I tend to prefer tighter bass, but that means booming bass will suffer. I like low Qts drivers as well. But now the speaker is generally less efficient, requiring more power. I guess I should have said that it is important to match the speaker parameters with the enclosure and crossovers and amplifiers to get the best total frequency response. Check out the B2031A review on noaudiophile.com. The woofers appear to have pretty large magnets.
Although I haven’t tried to measure the speaker parameters, I suspect they probably have lower Qts parameters.
@@6dbthreshold Thank you very much again. I am not an expert so i will follow your advice. I will keep the speakers as they are without trying risky mods. Kind regards, gino
gino oh. I’m definitely no expert. Just spent too much money learning from mistakes. 😜
Het there, thanks for the vid. I have a question since you seem very knowledgeable within this field. I have a pair of Truth B2031A, that has been working flawlessly since 2009. But now, my left one (or I guess it doesn't matter which side. For me its left :) ) is now turning itself off within like 10-60 minutes after start up. It does work however, because if I shut it off/on it works again.
I don't know too much about the technical aspects, but I guess it could be some sort of overheating, but the issue is that if I restart the speaker, it can work for another 60 minutes.
So basically Works -> goes silent -> restart -> works and so on.
Is there anything you might know about this? I would be grateful since I am on a tight budget...although if its not fixable it might give me a reason to get the HS8..will check more of your vids!
Sorry to hear about your bad luck. I can't find the schematics online, but I did google "B2031A randomly shutting down". I found a few people have had issues with the TO220 style voltage regulators (B7915A or B7815A) overheating and replaced them.
Are you comfortable with soldering and working with electronics? If so, unplug them, let them sit 20 minutes, and then remove the circuit boards and check for hot spots or cracked solder joints on the circuit boards. Connections can fail when the amplifiers heat up. Make sure the speakers been powered off for a while so the capacitors can discharge - shock hazards exist. I've got lucky before with other intermittent amplifiers by simply cleaning the circuit boards with compressed air and re-soldering cracked solder joints. If I see hot spots around any Intergrated Circuits (op amps or voltage regulators), I'll replace those if they are relatively cheap (less than $5.00). Some of the ICs have heat sinks - they are bolted to chunks of metal to dissipate heat - often with white heat transfer compound between the device and metal . Heat related issues often occur at the heat sinked components.
I can't find the schematics or service manual - those can be helpful if they give component part numbers or circuit testpoint voltages. But I'm not a bench tech - just giving you some ideas. I've got lucky about 30% of the time by just looking for hot spots or cracked solder or circuit board traces.
The bad thing about Behringer is also the good thing: They are cheap. You've got 13 years out of them. Many people (including myself), destroy speakers by listening too loud or not limiting the signal appropriately. Behringer is a cheap way to learn that lesson with relatively good sounding but cheap equipment.
Here's the link I found about the voltage regulators.
www.fixya.com/support/t735830-behringer_truth_b2031a_active_speakers
Good Luck. If you can't fix them - you aren't out a lot of money -
Just a random thought, have you checked the on/off switch at the top , there are 3 settings on there
@@6dbthreshold Hello sir, and thank you kindly for your reply. I basically gave up after the soldering part, as this is something I have never done and a bit afraid to do. I have a neighbor who knows this stuff and will certainly ask him if he understands the part you wrote about replacing it. I think its worth a shot.
But other than that, you are right, I did get 13 years form them, and they have been through some rough times (moved almost 5 times since that) and they have survived a lot of things. So I was quite happy and with tears in my eyes hwn I know understood that I have to let these go soon. I think for the time being, I can survive with turning them on /off, but in the long run I think I will invest in some HS8.
However, rarely do I find someone who goes out of their way to help someone, so I'm an truly humbled that you replied to me. Sorry, English is not my native language, so I might use some expressions the wrong way, but I do hope you understand what I mean. Big thanks again.
@@ljc7935 Hey there! Sorry what do you mean? I can only see On/off, and nothing else Im afraid :(
@Smit Miras. Your English is very good. I don’t mind replying as I have a small channel and enjoy the hobby. I know how it feels when you get used to a music tool and it fails you. And while the Behringer monitors are not expensive for monitors, they still cost a lot more than other necessities. Best wishes in your repair or replacement. Sorry I couldn’t help more. But if you had problems, I might experience problems too. So I was interested in looking. Behringer gear has a bad reputation. Sometimes for valid reasons. But they have improved a lot and are making the hobby cheaper. So I try to give honest opinions. Behringer can also engage in less than honest business practices. So they are a bit of a mixed blessing.
Behringer sounds more clear, but JBL in low end more definition. Behringer best??? i think to buy the B2030A. Wich is better for you? thanks
I like the JBLs much better. But the JBLs have larger drivers and amplifiers. Behringer makes a B2031A which is larger and has more power. I haven’t heard them, but suspect they would compare even better.
@@6dbthreshold I have the 2031A, had them for maybe 15 years or so now. I've never had anything to compare them side by side with and I have sometimes wondered if I should invest in a more high end pair, but in the end, I hear what I need to hear, they do a great job. It's just my mixing that needed work..
Same here.
The Behringer B2030A sounds more balanced, Than the JBL's which has a 5 k boost it sounds maybe3.5k but I like the Behringer B2030A more, I would think mastering on the JBL would give you a more dull sound because of that high boost. the Behringer B2030A had no distortion, the JBL was on had too much 3-5K other than that they sound good also. Behringer B2030A sounds more correct.
Thanks for the taking the time to listen and comment.
Can you play guitar through these? How do they sound compared to an amp?
Cool!
Bheringer clear good
Damn! Theose JBLs sound way better than the behringers!
As i can listen they give some kind of reverb to the audio. hmmm idk
TheFinaly97 Thanks for the comment. Do you hear the reverb in higher frequencies? I don’t fully understand your comment. However, the Behringer’s definitely have a harsher top end and I didn’t engage the high frequency reduction switch on them. Perhaps this created more room reverb relative to the smoother JBL output? I kept microphone gain and placement the same. The only change was the speakers. I measured the distance off and didn’t elevate them to match tweeter heights of the JBLs. In any case, thanks for listening and commenting. It helps me learn.
Im picking up a pair of 2030a today. Im not gonna use them as my main studio for mixing. Im gonna put them in my rehersal room were the other guitarist and i jam and also record some ideas.
How do i set them up so they sound the best in a wide open space? I know they are near field monitors, but for $50 i just must buy them :)
They gonna stand with the back close to a wall, but thats the only wall close to them. Ther are alot of settings on the backside :)
I never monitor thru studio monitor speakers if I have a live mic or guitar amp going in the same room. Feedback will destroy the tweeters quickly and you probably cant get the monitors loud enough to jam with (unless you are using acoustic guitars or a di source like a preamp rack or keyboard).
I’ve blown up many stereo and monitor speakers when trying to use them as a PA speaker. You’ll always want louder when playing live. Musicians curse.
Thanks! JBL - is plastic bass sound... Beringer - more realistic...
they all sound like Elac DBR62's to me...
Much better JBL !
Yessir. The JBLs are much better. Not to mention I’m quite pissed at Behringer currently.
@@6dbthreshold haha
The law of diminishing returns being what it is - I'm not hearing an $1800 difference .
100% agree. IMO, the Sterling Sub Bass is likely the winner for quality vs price.