@@guymee That doesn't answer the question, though. What is he doing that is 'morally wrong'? Go on, then. A proper answer instead of sidestepping it would be nice.
Reminds me of Psych's musical episode lampshading that Santa Barbara is now the murder capital of the world. The real city typically only has one or two murders.
Lot of people getting married without really knowing the real person/being compatible, they're unhappy, so one or both partners cheat and then we arrive at the IIRC 60%+ divorce rate in this country. (This is not to condone infidelity in any way)
@@yellowblanka6058 That's a myth. There's no shortage of sociological, psychological, and historical evidence that length of courtship is _very_ poorly correlated with how long marriages last, and that "compatibility" is largely determined by the kinds of things that would either show up in a background check or are universally required for a healthy relationship. The fact of the matter is, the quest for compatibility is a problem more often than it is a solution, because many who are struggling to find the right person to marry aren't finding them because they don't exist, because noncommunicative jerks don't have soul mates.
In reality anything like murder gets investigated by the police or other equivalent. It's just easier story telling to have a single person to do all the investigation in fiction
I like that he specified that his view on how many spouses are actually cheating is scewed by the relatively small number of suspicious spouses who hire an investigator Also respect for the 'where is the trust?' callout to the insane fiance test
Insane and dumb. If the person didn't cheat on a weekend you hired a PI doesn't mean that they never cheated before or after said weekend. Maybe the lover also got a business trip that time.
@@TheHanyuuuuu Good idea. If they didn't cheat during that exact weekend, it means they were 100% cheating with whoever is on the business trip with you.
Yeah, honestly in my opinion, if you're at the point of hiring a PI, just leave, because you have already lost the trust needed. Also, when you don't trust a person, you'll find ways to rationalize ways they could get around the test, even if they "passed."
@@Martinspire it's to give credit to the asker. As far as why them reading it aloud is even shown in the video? My guess is, again, in case the asker is watching the video
They’re actually supposed to wear the hat and trench coat when they’re on the job. This guy is breaking protocol and he’ll probably face severe professional repercussions
4:52 “if you want to change your appearance completely, never forget your shoes” I finished an espionage novel today in which the protagonist identified an assassin because she wasn’t wearing the same shoes as all the other maids. 😂
@@higherlearning7753 It was! The book is “The Elias Network” by Simon Gervais. Fair warning: it’s part of a series (which I knew before), but the next book doesn’t come out until July 2025 (which I did not know before). Also, if you do decide to read it I’d recommend looking up the meaning of “SDR” in the context of spy craft before because it comes up a lot.
Not the same novel as mentioned above, but the shoe thing was used in Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy has a scene with this premise. It’s one of the best spy novels ever
Didn't this actually happen irl, a journalist was assassinated and someone else dressed up as him was seen on camera leaving the building but he forgot to change his shoes
TV show Leverage too- good guys ID an assassin walking through a hospital dressed as a doctor because the assassin was wearing wingtips instead of crocs.
@@mujtabaalam5907 Basically, depending on local laws, you need proof of your spouse's faults to initiate divorce and/or it helps you when it comes to splitting assets as decided by the court.
Thank you for stating that one shouldn’t “test” their partner! This seems to be a thing that’s becoming more common and it’s a terrible idea. If you haven’t established a sufficient level of trust then you should not be getting married. Prenuptial agreements on the other hand are an absolute must, even if you are entering the marriage with approximately equal assets, you still need an infidelity clause. You cheat you get nothing!
Because we are wired to pay more attention to the bad than the good. We listen to the news (and news are mostly bad, because we are clicking on titles with war, murder, cheat, etc) read and watch stories, films - and a cheating story is usually more "interesting" than a happily-ever-after. So there are more stories about people behaving badly than stories about people living their boring life in a good way. So we "see" more people cheat than being faithful.
Seems like you're saying trust is important but also don't actually trust anyone then if a prenup is a must. If you REALLY trusted someone that would be an unimportant document. You're just drawing the line in another arbitrary place. I could make the argument as people say "Trust, but verify." 😂
@@TristanLane520 It's not arbitrary. One is to test whether your spouse is currently cheating, the other is laying down rules for if they ever, at any time in the future, are unfaithful. One is a complete lack of trust right when you're thinking of getting married, the other is acknowledging that people are fallible and can change over the course of an entire lifetime, and is more about financial safety than deciding whether you want to be with someone.
Lol: the kind of jokes that make my daughter visibly cringe on hearing. So funny though amirite?! Eta: The same daughter who 'christened' (no.1 AND 2) a display model toilet while I was transfixed by the paint-mixing machine like a complete simpleton. Also of course I cleaned it up.
That crap always baffles me. If you don't trust your girlfriend/boyfriend why wouldn't you just break up with them?.. Same with husband/wife. Like you obviously are looking for a reason to end the relationship so just end it.
To be clear, that's 70% to 75% of those who suspect their partner is cheating strong enough to actually go out of their way to hire a PI, that figure does NOT reflect the rate in the overall population. Moreover, even if the people that are that sure something is going, around a quarter to a third are wrong.
The thing is This is cope Like 90% of relationships cheat at one point or another People who dont do it just want to stick really hard to belief that there isnt souch cheating going on If you want cheating to stop you need to open the relationship Thats thr only way
On how to lower your profile: The biggest thing is to realize that social media are public! You are NOT just talking to a few close friends when you post on Facebook or other forums. The way to keep information private is not to put it on the Internet! But of course, don't be paranoid. Your very existence doesn't need to be kept secret. Nor do your profession or the contact information you normally give out. But be aware of what information you want to make public.
Not really. Most social media has been hacked multiple times and all of the user data has been dumped. If you have any social media presence, I can almost guarantee it can be easily found.
@@Chr1s-fm6biMost of data breaches were made in earlier days when the social media was unpopular. Security has improved drastically over the years, although it doesn’t mean that you have total protection of your privacy, most of the privacy that gets public are ones that are published by the person itself, not leaks, and the websites that provide data breaches are starting to get seized by governments, luckily. Moral of the story: don’t post your personal data to the internet
There's also the point of being overtly secretive. If you are doing something you dont want someone else to find out, and you stop posting on social media completely when you typically do so all the time, that's pretty suspicious.
There have been people that investigated peoples husbands and it turned out he was going to places that he wasn’t telling his wife because she had him on a diet or whatever and he was eating fast food further away so she wouldn’t catch him doing it.
@@Lampebruder famously Gary Gygax (the inventor of Dungeons and Dragons) was going off doing who knows what, and his wife was getting suspicious, so one day she followed him. She found him in a basement around a table with friends rolling dice and telling stories of killing goblins and finding treasure.
@@dennisd9554Different climate. If I go to a cold rainy place, clothes and parasols are a must and you might as well do it well. You go to the deep south in the states, and there is no way to avoid the heat+humidity, best you can do is dress down as much as you can and bear it.
I love his answer to the Sherlock Holmes vs Benoit Blanc question! He took the question seriously and gave positive traits to both characters in reference to real-world skills!
@@benzaiten933 ehhh i've read sherlock, he makes some insane assertions with no backup whatsoever, probably thanks to being coked up, and ofc hes always right in the novels but irl he wouldn't be
@@katierasburn9571well the insane assertions are needed to create the illusion that he is extremely smart without having to find an equally extremely smart narrative telling. If it wasn't the case it wouldn't be a array of novels but one single masterful book.
3:55 if you're so skeptical of someone that you have to do this to be sure of whether you should marry someone, the answer is that you shouldn't marry them.
I was in a relationship with someone who got terminal cancer while we were together. As he got sicker and lost his mental strength, more and more evidence came out that he’d totally lied about his past; it was all a shock to me, I hadn’t been suspicious at all. After he was gone and I met someone else, I definitely did a background check on him. Not because I was suspicious of him for any reason, but simply because of what happened to me before.
Love that he clarified that the percentage of cheating couples is biased due to prior suspicion. A lot of people especiallly in the manosphere love to take those kinda of stats and say "75% of spouses are cheating!!" When in fact its "75% of spouses who suspect cheating so strongly that theyre willing to pay money to confirm it, turn out to be correct".
not only that its people who also decide that a pi is the course of action to take. you may believe it strongly enough that youd bet money on it like that, but are you generally going to go out of your way to hire a pi? or are you just gonna break up with them? its such a specific scenario where youre so sure of it and you have a good reason, like for divorce proceedings. its an interesting statistic but its not like... useful for trying to glean info about anything else
Agreed. Unless I needed help with divorce proceedings... if it was just a normal relationship I'd rather break up and than Hire a PI. Not worth the time, stress, and money
@@_Cailean_ I don't know that they've ever done it with this, but a common talking point among misogynists is that 10 (or something) percent of DNA tests prove that the mother was cheating, but this data is skewed because the only reason they were getting DNA tests was that there was already a suspicion of cheating. So this is not a ridiculous thing to be worried about
My question is, if you are assigned to investigate something specific but end up discovering something entirely different - for example, you're asked to investigate whether a partner is hiding money, but instead, you find out they are involved in an affair - are you supposed to inform the client about what you discovered, or should you only report on what they initially asked you to investigate?
@@PROVOCATEURSKhe covers for whoever hires him. it’s like lawyers defending a criminal. sure it’s morally wrong but it’d also be wrong to take away a persons basic rights js bc of that, and that leads to a dilemma. personally i find cheating unforgivable and i think the cheater deserved to be blackmailed, but when you’re a PI or lawyer, you don’t think of the personal aspect.
About not forgetting to change the shoes when wanting to look different: I've been a human rights activist for many years, doing things like civil disobedience, and it was often a semi-serious cat-and-mouse game with undercover/plainclothes cops. The one thing you could always spot them by, were the police-issue boots that they would rarely swap out.
@@TimoRutanen Or maybe law enforcement shouldn't do things like violate civil rights and commit extrajudicial killings. When the police can't be trusted to abide by the laws they're supposed to uphold, questioning why anyone would take steps to protect themselves is ridiculous.
@@TimoRutanen no one is a bigger direct threat to civilian rights than the police. They have way too much power. Tons and tons of innocent people have been wrongly Killed by them because of human error.
Recently heard a story of a guy using a PI to track down his ex - then he murdered her. The PI didn't know his client had a restraining order against him. Seems like something that should have been checked...
I’m glad someone finally mentioned this. I enjoyed this interview, but cringed a bit when he told the story of the woman who fled to the US with her child. She could have fled to protect herself and her child, but the investigation potentially disrupted that 😔.
Regarding the question about the estranged wife taking the kids the U.S, I wonder if you have ever declined a case because the results worried you about what would happen to a person. For example, if the mother escaped an abusive situation and yes, maybe forged the signature on some documents to get out of the country, if you knew deep down inside that the children would be sent back to an abusive person, would you have a moment of reconsideration of providing the evidence to the client? It might not be what the client paid for, but (and this is a bias as a woman myself and who's father abused my mother, even while pregnant with my younger brother), I couldn't give that information to the client. I'd take the hit on my reputation to ensure the woman and children are safe. Especially if this case was in the middle east, which sadly doesn't have the best record of being women-friendly and honor killings are common if your children do not align to rigid viewpoints.
@@farabski You're jumping into an insane amount of conclusions with exactly 0 info beyond the fact that the father had custody and the mother committed forgery.
My aunt had a PI find me after I changed my number 2x and addresses 3 or 4 times after leaving my abusive dad and cutting off 99.9% of the people I knew.. I’m still stunned that there was success.. but it made me concerned that my dad or other abusers that I was concerned about finding me getting my information.. I’m curious how people fleeing abuse could go about minimizing their chances of being found..
@@chioma5633How are the Investigators supposed to know they are abusers? Do you think that aunt went "Oh yeah, my nephew left and changed his address and numbers after my brother and I abused him, do you think you could track him down for me?" No, she would say "Hey, I want to reconnect with my Nephew, do you think you could track down his new address and number?"
This was BRILLIANT. What a professional guy. Entertaining to watch in this condensed form but also really interesting honestly. Good advice on the questions where he could bring more of his own opinion, too.
The case of the mother who escaped with the child at 14:09, not sure how to feel about that one. Hope his client isn't abusive and he just condemn the child to a life of suffering.
@@greywolf7577Threats, either veiled or outward, overall behaviour of the "suspect" and "clients" (they have extensive behavior experience, after all)
They assist the criminal in skirting the law to legally stalk their victims and then they leave when they get paid because they’re usually terrible people.
@@NoName-mi8jsA good amount of people don't know the difference between "fiancé" and "fiancée". Just like people will use "blonde" instead of "blond" to describe men. Since they sounds the same people spell it the same. I'm guessing it's a man, since the poster uses "her" to reference the fiancé(e).
The percentage of "actually cheating" is interesting. It makes sense they'd want solid proof so they can proceed with a divorce without any he said/she said possibility. Very interesting subject!
as he'd said, in most cases the partner would have made their own investigation beforehand and likely needed professionals for solid, irrefutable proof.
I loved his comment about the fiancé test and tbh it’s hinting at something he can’t say or he’d lose his job. This truth is that if you can’t trust your spouse to such an extent you need to hire a PI your relationship is done the trust is gone and that’s a fundamental part of any working relationship.
For the right price anything is aplicable even to countries. Latvijas annual government budget is 10 billion, so if you offer to pay Latvijas government 10 billion for a favor (offering to duble the government budget for a year) ods are parlament will agree to the deal.
Most likely have. My grandfather dealing with the russijan mafia once notices a suspicios guy watching him pretending to be fixing his car on the other street. He walked up to him looked in his eyes and told the guy to go get a life. The guy drove off immidetly and was never seen again, wonder what he told his boss. The 90s where a strange time, grandfather carried a gun with him at all times for fear of assasins.
Yes and no, I could see it go both ways. Investigating them for no reason, yeah, obvious major red flag. But as the guy said, if there is an actual reason for the suspicion more often than not, it turns out to be true. Better to know that before than after. Still a lack of trust that in itself could lead to trouble down the road.
Well I hope this fine gentleman is either 16:01 retired or no longer pounding the pavement. After over 2.5 million views, his days of secretive surveillance are severely compromised.
What about stalkers and abusive ex partners. Do privet investigators help them find their victims or do they turn them down? If they do help and someone gets hurt or killed because of it, are investigators partially responsible by law? If not they should be.
@@kittiescorner222 possibly yeah, I mean it's all about intent. If the PI knew that the said person was a stalker or criminal and intentionally helped them then yes it is a conspiracy charge If the PI wasn't aware. It's not a conspiracy, also such things are probably written in the contract.
@ that’s not my job my job is to get the truth if they’re cheating, we let our client know if we’re not cheating we don’t falsify evidence. It’s as simple as that
My ex husband’s stalker hired a PI to get information about him. It was a bit like the Baby Reindeer story - as far as he was nice to her, as she was a guest in his restaurant. She became obsessed with him, thereby dragging our son and me into it. I was very upset to learn that a PI can be used to help unhinged people track down personal information about their target. Horribly unethical!
The question I would have wanted to have asked is: Did you ever take a job whereupon successfully solving the case, realised you could not morally give the information back to the client, because of what you found out in your investigating?
@@Faceplay2 That sounds morally wrong. Sometimes the people you "are paid to find" have gone missing for a reason, and telling your client where they are could get them abused or killed
I assume there's a legal imperative to report such a situation to the police. Whether a PI actually does so or not 'cause they want their money and they probably don't get paid if they go to the cops depends on the individual in question... but I suspect they would unless they're SUPER shady (like mafia lawyer territory), because that's not a risk worth taking.
@14:03 I actually heard of this case. That child committed suicide 2 weeks after being returned to their father. Their child was trying to escape. The weird pauses he's making and why the child's father was so shocked at their child's appearance is because of this child transitioned into living as a woman. I mean what he said about this case is not at all shocking. He knows it as a shocking case because of all the other circumstances that he's not addressing.
Nah, i searched the name up, sounds like a different story. Eden was an adult and was living with an unkown family in America, coerced to go back by people called fixers dont know what that means. But sounds different to the case.he is talking about in the video.
@yara438 The person in the video said it was handed off to some colleagues of his who did the rest. Seriously how often do you think something like this happens? Do you think that this is a frequent occurrence? This is far too uncommon of a thing to happen in the first place that to have so many things line up perfectly is unlikely. Not to mention that child's dad refused to believe that it was their child based on their appearance. That is an incredibly peculiar thing for any parent to do. In fact I can only think of one reason a parent would ever refuse that and that reason fits this case. And at no point did anybody say that this was a minor, just that it was their child. That is an assumption that you have made. You don't stop being somebody's child when you turn 18.
9:27 not if one rises earlier than the other and gets to other's house before he leaves, then he gets to follow the other guy drive over to his house and sit outside lol, would be extremely trippy and confusing moment
My friend was a PI and got hired to follow a possible cheating spouse. The guy was going to a nudist colony to cheat. I kept trying to get my friend to tell me where he would hide his camera 🤣
Maybe he could get some glasses that records what he's looking at. Or just get a small camera and hide it in his hair. Or maybe a watch that can record things. Even at a nudist colony, there are things people can wear without standing out.
LOL THAT GUY! "I always recommend" dude you've never been in a relationship in your life, GTFO trying to pretend you're not a perpetually online incel.
Uhhhh Middle Eastern client trying to locate his child who was with the wife who had forged his signature in order to leave the country... pretty sure she had successfully escaped an abuser and this guy reunited them. And I'll bet it was Saudi Arabia.
My thoughts exactly. Women in the Middle East have few rights. I don’t know anything about that case but I’m genuinely concerned they reunited an abusive father with his child and deprived the mother of having access to the child. Few women go through that much trouble not to be found.
How do you know the woman wasn't the abuser? It's sad that you automatically made a negative assumption about him based on his gender and race. Don't make sexist assumptions.
He didn't actually answer whether or not he's ever been spotted on the job. I'm guessing he has if he's avoiding the question. I also wonder about the morality of tracking down someone. Like, what if someone is trying to escape an abusive partner and said partner hires a PI to track the victim down? Does a PI usually investigate the clients before taking them on?
@@senaeu yeah i bet, but it's worse when he doesn't know the client is a stalker and just thinks they're trying to find a lost person. hopefully they do a background check of the client and/or in case they find that person, they don't reveal where they are.
The way he spoke implied that he has and it's just something that happens, and that he also wasn't going to say who, when, where, why, how or how often it happens. I believe if they have reason to suspect the information will be used to commit a crime, they have an obligation to report it to the police. Not doing so would put them in legal trouble and, I suspect, risk them losing their license or being similarly penalized. Or perhaps they tell the client they can't complete the request and refund part of the money given to them already, but don't go to the police about it. Actually giving that information over would be super risky.
White Toyota Camry is probably the most nondescript car you can have in my country. They are everywhere. The other is a Ford Ranger, also everywhere. I wonder if most PI cases are just for insurance fraud and similar, such as collecting govt disability benefits, but still working physical jobs, for example.
My (completely unfounded) guess would be that's the SECOND most common case. With the most common being investigating suspicions of (or merely collecting evidence of an already confirmed) infidelity.
I feel so bad for the ex-wife and kid of the middle eastern banker. It's more probable than not that she fled an abusive relationship and that guy manaed to make her life even worae.
It's disturbing that you are assuming that based only on the gender and nationality of the man who hired the PI. For all you know, the mother was the abusive one. Stop making sexist assumptions.
@@greywolf7577 I am not assuming anything. The situation of women (and lack of rights) in the middle east is well-known, hence "it's more probable than not". Btw "middle eastern" is not a nationality.
While it's true that you can't access people's private data, if someone is married to the person they're investigating, they can often just give it to you.
Worthwhile to take into consideration that he would probably like to boost his and his company's reputation and telling elaborate cases would have a financial incentive. Not suggesting that he's lying about specific cases, but I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of cases don't require as much theatrics.
That's generally the idea. The PI is to get favorable evidence for divorce court, so you don't get stuck paying alimony to a cheater or something like that.
Ah the "fiance test" one. It's funny when people who have absolutely no business being married, who have no clue how to actually love and trust someone, give out advice. It's almost kind of offensive for someone to be just so bewilderingly unskilled to be giving advice on any topic with such confidence.
Seriously, someone who fundamentally doesn't understand that if you don't trust someone, you can't possibly love them, so you shouldn't bother being married to begin with. Stay a bachelor, this isn't the 1960s anymore. No one who matters cares if you get married.
‘75% of people who are so suspicious that their partner is cheating that they pay money to figure it out are proven right’ Guys, have I got a statistic for you.
Shout out to the producers of the WIRED ____ Support videos, because this one is one of the best ever! Great guest, great questions, and great direction! Well done!
I was planning on being a private investigator when I grew up. After starting a family as a younger adult and I decided that it didn't seem safe. My investigative nature is still a big part of how approach things in the world.
While the most important thing to a marriage is fidelity, a secondary consideration to wealthy clients with high- security careers may be the attempt by someone to blackmail or somehow compromise or endanger the client, and if the client is sure their spouse is cheating, but can't catch them or prove it, this may be further suggestion that it's not mere romance but something more nefarious, indication that something very premeditated and criminal is going on, and therefore a PI is hired.
Regarding surveillance devices - you CAN'T conclusively tell. You can be pretty sure, but to scan for it, it has to be emitting, and more sophisticated devices won't start signalling if they aren't moving, or use other measures to remain inactive when reporting isn't needed. For instance, they may be scheduled to transmit when someone wants to know where you go at 5:00 every afternoon, or if realtime tracking isn't needed, they may connect to the internet every five minutes, very briefly. If the scanner's not near the device WHILE it's actively connected, and you don't physically clock it, then you just never know.
I once worked with a woman whose husband was a PI specializing in insurance fraud cases. He did a lot of surveillance and caught people doing normal things while drawing disability or being involved in lawsuits where they claimed to be disabled. Some cases were resolved in favor of the person being investigated, some in favor of the person/company who requested the surveillance. He would go to court to give testimony regarding what he had observed.
14:41 the middle eastern case is so morally questionable. What country was this? What were the circumstances? Women have very few rights in the Middle East. Awful.
0:27 There was a case in the Pittsburgh general area where a women had been blackmailing many, many individuals. Both her residence and also her car was wired up with numerous cameras (especially the residence). She had blackmailed a minimum of 20+ people for many millions of dollars. Irony, she is now married to a lawyer and living in a different state. Someone has written a book about this person
This was really good - v disciplined man to keep his stories that concise but still both interesting and satisfying, which meant we got thru more Qs than I thought possible 👏🤯👏👏
Unless you are a super wealthy and fully paranoid person, I would say most people who are whipping out the wallet or purse to pay actual money to a professional PI are already fairly confident that cheating is occurring, but only need the PI to get incontrovertible evidence. I doubt many people are thinking like hey my husband/wife has been loving and fully faithful for 10 years, but this past week they just started taking their phone with them when they shower, so I better hire a Private Investigator 😂
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Very misleading title. He answered more than 3.14 questions
Wow you’re right. Not one question about PI. Smh.
Punctuation matters.
Hahaha I’m dead.
Ha!
Dad joke! Dad joke! Wah Wah Wah!
watching him pause as he tried to think of a way to explain certain situations without breach of contract was so funny
It shows his professionalism.
@@masterchinese28professionally an evil person
@@guymeeLol what is he doing that's evil?
@@edwardliu111 sorry I’ll quote him instead “morally wrong”
@@guymee That doesn't answer the question, though. What is he doing that is 'morally wrong'? Go on, then. A proper answer instead of sidestepping it would be nice.
PI in movies: "huh, another murder case, with the same MO"
PI in real life: "This is the 15th infidelity investigation this month"
Ever watch Jessica Jones?
Reminds me of Psych's musical episode lampshading that Santa Barbara is now the murder capital of the world. The real city typically only has one or two murders.
Lot of people getting married without really knowing the real person/being compatible, they're unhappy, so one or both partners cheat and then we arrive at the IIRC 60%+ divorce rate in this country. (This is not to condone infidelity in any way)
@@yellowblanka6058 That's a myth. There's no shortage of sociological, psychological, and historical evidence that length of courtship is _very_ poorly correlated with how long marriages last, and that "compatibility" is largely determined by the kinds of things that would either show up in a background check or are universally required for a healthy relationship.
The fact of the matter is, the quest for compatibility is a problem more often than it is a solution, because many who are struggling to find the right person to marry aren't finding them because they don't exist, because noncommunicative jerks don't have soul mates.
In reality anything like murder gets investigated by the police or other equivalent. It's just easier story telling to have a single person to do all the investigation in fiction
I like that he specified that his view on how many spouses are actually cheating is scewed by the relatively small number of suspicious spouses who hire an investigator
Also respect for the 'where is the trust?' callout to the insane fiance test
Insane and dumb. If the person didn't cheat on a weekend you hired a PI doesn't mean that they never cheated before or after said weekend. Maybe the lover also got a business trip that time.
If u cant trust ur partner without hiring a PI u might as well break up. And this particular guy should just never live a monogamous relationship
@@TheHanyuuuuu Good idea. If they didn't cheat during that exact weekend, it means they were 100% cheating with whoever is on the business trip with you.
Yeah, honestly in my opinion, if you're at the point of hiring a PI, just leave, because you have already lost the trust needed. Also, when you don't trust a person, you'll find ways to rationalize ways they could get around the test, even if they "passed."
And even then, it was only 75% of them cheating. I was expecting more if you're suspicious enough to hire an investigator.
I will never get tired of these people reading out the twitter handles so seriously
I find it hilarious and satisfying that nobody calls it X 🤣
Actually today it was reddit
I don't get why they are even forced to do that. Just have it on screen and focus on the question.
*reddit
@@Martinspire it's to give credit to the asker. As far as why them reading it aloud is even shown in the video? My guess is, again, in case the asker is watching the video
The fake tourism media interview to get the infidelity confirmed is so awesome and brilliant I love that.
Right! Genius
Pretty stupid of them to be on camera
Imagine how stupid you must feel when you realize that you confessed your infidelity to a camera crew.
It's a neat little trap, isn't it?
How were they not paranoid someone they knew would watch the interview
For some reason, even though I know they still exist, I always envision a PI wearing a hat and trench coat like they do in movies
Not a Hawaiian shirt and a Tigers hat?
@@Fortunes.Fool. With the sweetest mustache you'll ever see
No way, a Hawaiian shirt, baseball cap, and a Ferrari.
They’re actually supposed to wear the hat and trench coat when they’re on the job. This guy is breaking protocol and he’ll probably face severe professional repercussions
@@TG-ld8hl LOL wardrobe violation
4:52 “if you want to change your appearance completely, never forget your shoes” I finished an espionage novel today in which the protagonist identified an assassin because she wasn’t wearing the same shoes as all the other maids. 😂
What was the book? Sounds good!
@@higherlearning7753 It was! The book is “The Elias Network” by Simon Gervais. Fair warning: it’s part of a series (which I knew before), but the next book doesn’t come out until July 2025 (which I did not know before). Also, if you do decide to read it I’d recommend looking up the meaning of “SDR” in the context of spy craft before because it comes up a lot.
Not the same novel as mentioned above, but the shoe thing was used in Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy has a scene with this premise. It’s one of the best spy novels ever
Didn't this actually happen irl, a journalist was assassinated and someone else dressed up as him was seen on camera leaving the building but he forgot to change his shoes
TV show Leverage too- good guys ID an assassin walking through a hospital dressed as a doctor because the assassin was wearing wingtips instead of crocs.
You know when your spouse is cheating. People just hire a PI for confirmation and to gather damning evidence for the divorce proceedings.
Yeah pretty much. But some hire because they are paranoid
Why would you need evidence for divorce?
@@mujtabaalam5907 Basically, depending on local laws, you need proof of your spouse's faults to initiate divorce and/or it helps you when it comes to splitting assets as decided by the court.
@@mujtabaalam5907 In some states in the US there is something called "at fault divorce" where proving your spouse's infidelity can be very helpful
@@mujtabaalam5907 I think it can affect financial stuff/custody
Thank you for stating that one shouldn’t “test” their partner! This seems to be a thing that’s becoming more common and it’s a terrible idea. If you haven’t established a sufficient level of trust then you should not be getting married. Prenuptial agreements on the other hand are an absolute must, even if you are entering the marriage with approximately equal assets, you still need an infidelity clause. You cheat you get nothing!
Because we are wired to pay more attention to the bad than the good. We listen to the news (and news are mostly bad, because we are clicking on titles with war, murder, cheat, etc) read and watch stories, films - and a cheating story is usually more "interesting" than a happily-ever-after. So there are more stories about people behaving badly than stories about people living their boring life in a good way. So we "see" more people cheat than being faithful.
I liked his answer. If you think you have to hire a PI then there's already problems and a PI is usually one of the last resorts.
Seems like you're saying trust is important but also don't actually trust anyone then if a prenup is a must. If you REALLY trusted someone that would be an unimportant document.
You're just drawing the line in another arbitrary place.
I could make the argument as people say "Trust, but verify." 😂
@@TristanLane520 It's not arbitrary. One is to test whether your spouse is currently cheating, the other is laying down rules for if they ever, at any time in the future, are unfaithful. One is a complete lack of trust right when you're thinking of getting married, the other is acknowledging that people are fallible and can change over the course of an entire lifetime, and is more about financial safety than deciding whether you want to be with someone.
Prenuptial agreement are just another lack of trust. And no, they are not an absolute must.
The best way to go unnoticed as a PI is wear a Hawaiian shirt, a Detroit ball cap, and drive a red Ferrari.
And the shorts! Don't forget the shorts! 😁
Oh my God Magnum.
Well, duh....
Nah nah, it's having a scruffy look , a jacket and insisting your wife has every interest known to man.
Knee high socks and Birkenstocks make you basically invisible
"my oh sh*t moment was for a bathroom supplier company" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Haha! I missed that connection!
I came looking for this comment right after I heard it 💀
Apparently, not all the porcelain in the shop was tip top!
The biggest corruption is in the smallest things
Lol: the kind of jokes that make my daughter visibly cringe on hearing. So funny though amirite?!
Eta: The same daughter who 'christened' (no.1 AND 2) a display model toilet while I was transfixed by the paint-mixing machine like a complete simpleton. Also of course I cleaned it up.
Even if there is no infidelity, reckon once you hire a PI, that relationship is done
If they found out, perhaps
I would be inclined to agree. At that point, you've tipped to the distrust.
That crap always baffles me. If you don't trust your girlfriend/boyfriend why wouldn't you just break up with them?.. Same with husband/wife. Like you obviously are looking for a reason to end the relationship so just end it.
@@RedTail1-1 Agreed.
@@RedTail1-1 In the case of a marriage there might be legal reasons, depending on the country
"honey I'm sorry I know I said I'd be back for dinner but I'm in paris..."
I thought that his wife was in Paris.
@@leisti the term "honey" can be used in both cases for spouses
if i were his wife I’d hire a PI to track his whereabouts…
Hopefully, he invited her to follow 😂
If I were wifey I’d meet up. Weekend trip to Paris! 😂
i played luigi’s mansion for 36 hours straight when my fiancé went out of town
You must be stopped ✋️
The original?
@@KingdomKing13 3!
I was trying to imagine what the footage would reveal about me and I think it would be pretty much the same
Legend 😂😂
To be clear, that's 70% to 75% of those who suspect their partner is cheating strong enough to actually go out of their way to hire a PI, that figure does NOT reflect the rate in the overall population. Moreover, even if the people that are that sure something is going, around a quarter to a third are wrong.
To be fair it also includes paranoid people with trust issues and no good reason to doubt in the first place.
He said as much.
Those would be the 25-30% not covered by the 70-75% though.
This is obvious. Plus he said it.
The thing is
This is cope
Like 90% of relationships cheat at one point or another
People who dont do it just want to stick really hard to belief that there isnt souch cheating going on
If you want cheating to stop you need to open the relationship
Thats thr only way
On how to lower your profile: The biggest thing is to realize that social media are public! You are NOT just talking to a few close friends when you post on Facebook or other forums. The way to keep information private is not to put it on the Internet! But of course, don't be paranoid. Your very existence doesn't need to be kept secret. Nor do your profession or the contact information you normally give out. But be aware of what information you want to make public.
Not really. Most social media has been hacked multiple times and all of the user data has been dumped. If you have any social media presence, I can almost guarantee it can be easily found.
@@Chr1s-fm6biMost of data breaches were made in earlier days when the social media was unpopular. Security has improved drastically over the years, although it doesn’t mean that you have total protection of your privacy, most of the privacy that gets public are ones that are published by the person itself, not leaks, and the websites that provide data breaches are starting to get seized by governments, luckily. Moral of the story: don’t post your personal data to the internet
@@Chr1s-fm6bi It doesn't even have to be hacked. Create yourself a marketing/advertising "company" and buy all the data you want.
There's also the point of being overtly secretive. If you are doing something you dont want someone else to find out, and you stop posting on social media completely when you typically do so all the time, that's pretty suspicious.
@@JH-wd6dp people that want your information are not going to spend the time and money doing that when they can download it for free.
I'm here for the, "he wasn't cheating, he just had a warehouse full of supercars" story.
There have been people that investigated peoples husbands and it turned out he was going to places that he wasn’t telling his wife because she had him on a diet or whatever and he was eating fast food further away so she wouldn’t catch him doing it.
@@Lampebruder famously Gary Gygax (the inventor of Dungeons and Dragons) was going off doing who knows what, and his wife was getting suspicious, so one day she followed him. She found him in a basement around a table with friends rolling dice and telling stories of killing goblins and finding treasure.
I saw him in the thumbnail and was like "he's definitely British" I don't know why
"Bri'ish"
❤❤❤ you should be an investigator ❤❤❤
I mean St Pancras is a dead giveaway
Cuz he's a snappy dresser. Last time I was in London I felt like a slob in comparison to all the men walking around.
@@dennisd9554Different climate. If I go to a cold rainy place, clothes and parasols are a must and you might as well do it well. You go to the deep south in the states, and there is no way to avoid the heat+humidity, best you can do is dress down as much as you can and bear it.
I love his answer to the Sherlock Holmes vs Benoit Blanc question! He took the question seriously and gave positive traits to both characters in reference to real-world skills!
Not really. He talked about modern forensic technology, which Benoit Blanc doesn’t use at all.
then wouldn't "Sherlock" win any day, as he's got the classic's skill as well as technology?
14:44 for reference
@@benzaiten933 ehhh i've read sherlock, he makes some insane assertions with no backup whatsoever, probably thanks to being coked up, and ofc hes always right in the novels but irl he wouldn't be
@@katierasburn9571well the insane assertions are needed to create the illusion that he is extremely smart without having to find an equally extremely smart narrative telling. If it wasn't the case it wouldn't be a array of novels but one single masterful book.
3:55 if you're so skeptical of someone that you have to do this to be sure of whether you should marry someone, the answer is that you shouldn't marry them.
Absolutely! This never even occurred to me before I got married, probably because I trust my wife and there’s no reason whatsoever not to do so.
1. men should never marry 2. men should always investigate their women
I was in a relationship with someone who got terminal cancer while we were together. As he got sicker and lost his mental strength, more and more evidence came out that he’d totally lied about his past; it was all a shock to me, I hadn’t been suspicious at all. After he was gone and I met someone else, I definitely did a background check on him. Not because I was suspicious of him for any reason, but simply because of what happened to me before.
this
Love that he clarified that the percentage of cheating couples is biased due to prior suspicion. A lot of people especiallly in the manosphere love to take those kinda of stats and say "75% of spouses are cheating!!" When in fact its "75% of spouses who suspect cheating so strongly that theyre willing to pay money to confirm it, turn out to be correct".
not only that its people who also decide that a pi is the course of action to take. you may believe it strongly enough that youd bet money on it like that, but are you generally going to go out of your way to hire a pi? or are you just gonna break up with them? its such a specific scenario where youre so sure of it and you have a good reason, like for divorce proceedings. its an interesting statistic but its not like... useful for trying to glean info about anything else
Agreed. Unless I needed help with divorce proceedings... if it was just a normal relationship I'd rather break up and than Hire a PI. Not worth the time, stress, and money
Trying to blame cheating suspicions on misogyny is an...interesting move
@@_Cailean_ That's how you know whoever wrote the original comment is a cheating woman with 0 sense of accountability lmao.
@@_Cailean_ I don't know that they've ever done it with this, but a common talking point among misogynists is that 10 (or something) percent of DNA tests prove that the mother was cheating, but this data is skewed because the only reason they were getting DNA tests was that there was already a suspicion of cheating. So this is not a ridiculous thing to be worried about
My question is, if you are assigned to investigate something specific but end up discovering something entirely different - for example, you're asked to investigate whether a partner is hiding money, but instead, you find out they are involved in an affair - are you supposed to inform the client about what you discovered, or should you only report on what they initially asked you to investigate?
Most likely so.
I mean that's probably where the money would be going tbh
He covers for the cheaters, didn´t you listen to his first story?
@@PROVOCATEURSKhe covers for whoever hires him. it’s like lawyers defending a criminal. sure it’s morally wrong but it’d also be wrong to take away a persons basic rights js bc of that, and that leads to a dilemma. personally i find cheating unforgivable and i think the cheater deserved to be blackmailed, but when you’re a PI or lawyer, you don’t think of the personal aspect.
@@PROVOCATEURSKOnly if that's who hired him
So what you're saying is, you need to hire THREE investigators to follow one another in a kind of PI Congo line
Max Fosh actually did hire 2 investigators and they followed each other.
@@PROVOCATEURSKthank you, I was thinking that was one of the shenanigans he got up to, and was going to look.
About not forgetting to change the shoes when wanting to look different: I've been a human rights activist for many years, doing things like civil disobedience, and it was often a semi-serious cat-and-mouse game with undercover/plainclothes cops. The one thing you could always spot them by, were the police-issue boots that they would rarely swap out.
Feels like if you're a 'rights activist', you shouldn't be hiding. Maybe your methods are questionable?
@@TimoRutanen Idiotic comment. Any human rights activist worth their salt has people in power gunning for them
@@TimoRutanen Or maybe law enforcement shouldn't do things like violate civil rights and commit extrajudicial killings. When the police can't be trusted to abide by the laws they're supposed to uphold, questioning why anyone would take steps to protect themselves is ridiculous.
@@TimoRutanen no one is a bigger direct threat to civilian rights than the police. They have way too much power. Tons and tons of innocent people have been wrongly Killed by them because of human error.
if you don't mind me asking, which country have you done activism in?
2:54 The PI pretending to be a journalist with a microphone and camera and interviewing the 2 cheaters is absolute genius.
Recently heard a story of a guy using a PI to track down his ex - then he murdered her. The PI didn't know his client had a restraining order against him. Seems like something that should have been checked...
Yeah I know people will get angry at this reply but if I was a PI, I would never find a (female) ex for a man. The stats speak for themselves.
I’m glad someone finally mentioned this. I enjoyed this interview, but cringed a bit when he told the story of the woman who fled to the US with her child. She could have fled to protect herself and her child, but the investigation potentially disrupted that 😔.
@@tc_is_me that's absolutely why she fled
@@tc_is_me Yeah this made me sad, especially that the US granted him custody of the (probably female) child, forcing her to return to the middle east.
This is what I came to say, he basically put that woman and child in danger for money!
Regarding the question about the estranged wife taking the kids the U.S, I wonder if you have ever declined a case because the results worried you about what would happen to a person. For example, if the mother escaped an abusive situation and yes, maybe forged the signature on some documents to get out of the country, if you knew deep down inside that the children would be sent back to an abusive person, would you have a moment of reconsideration of providing the evidence to the client? It might not be what the client paid for, but (and this is a bias as a woman myself and who's father abused my mother, even while pregnant with my younger brother), I couldn't give that information to the client. I'd take the hit on my reputation to ensure the woman and children are safe. Especially if this case was in the middle east, which sadly doesn't have the best record of being women-friendly and honor killings are common if your children do not align to rigid viewpoints.
I thought this exact same thing.
Same thoughts, this is terrible
He should have declined the case
@@farabski You're jumping into an insane amount of conclusions with exactly 0 info beyond the fact that the father had custody and the mother committed forgery.
Too much fanfiction dude
@@kurowkarasu I think it is a jump, but not a crazy huge one given the general state of women's rights in the middle east.
I clicked on this video because I misread the image as “how often are spouses cleaning.” Please, this is the investigation we actually need.
This is so underrated!!! Spoiler alert: they aren't, ever. It's just you.
It's your turn to clean.
My aunt had a PI find me after I changed my number 2x and addresses 3 or 4 times after leaving my abusive dad and cutting off 99.9% of the people I knew..
I’m still stunned that there was success.. but it made me concerned that my dad or other abusers that I was concerned about finding me getting my information..
I’m curious how people fleeing abuse could go about minimizing their chances of being found..
Exactly!! The way random people decide to help abusers…so dumb.
Probably through their hobbies, habits, or other people they stayed in contact with.
@@chioma5633yes!! I was horrified that he gave up that womans location so easily, without a bat of an eyelid! These people are dangerous!
@@chioma5633How are the Investigators supposed to know they are abusers? Do you think that aunt went "Oh yeah, my nephew left and changed his address and numbers after my brother and I abused him, do you think you could track him down for me?"
No, she would say "Hey, I want to reconnect with my Nephew, do you think you could track down his new address and number?"
This was BRILLIANT. What a professional guy. Entertaining to watch in this condensed form but also really interesting honestly. Good advice on the questions where he could bring more of his own opinion, too.
The case of the mother who escaped with the child at 14:09, not sure how to feel about that one. Hope his client isn't abusive and he just condemn the child to a life of suffering.
He's middle Eastern, he was probably touching the kid
That's not up to him. He's a PI, not a judge. If the dad got custody of the child - that would be in the judge's hands.
Like on The Equalizer?
@@rodneymartin6154 like every arab
Was thinking the same thing. Glad I’m not alone, it did come across as abusive
What do they do if they suspect the client poses a risk to the subject? Thinking about how many murders start with a paranoid partner.
How would the PI know if the client posed a risk to the subject?
@@greywolf7577Threats, either veiled or outward, overall behaviour of the "suspect" and "clients" (they have extensive behavior experience, after all)
@@greywolf7577 during the course of the investigation
They assist the criminal in skirting the law to legally stalk their victims and then they leave when they get paid because they’re usually terrible people.
@@gobblegoblin sorry but a lot of jobs are morally bankrupt so yeah you can’t really blame one group
Perhaps a mathematician might be a better expert on pi
or a person with a binge eating disorder
Underrated comment
Haw haw haw
Or a quantum physicist
Or a football referee
PI sounds really cool until you realize you do more affair stalking than being Holmes
Holmes did lots of affair stalking, but it was never written about. 😂
@@rpdx3 Holmes wasn't a real person.
@@rpdx3Holmes solved an affair in the modern BBC show by seeing that the male had Botox for his hair loss
Wow omg to the guy who recommended the “fiancée test”! Dude’s a danger to himself and others 😂
It might have been a woman. It said "fiancé".
Yeah, that was just a waving red flag
I think No Name meant that grammatically, "fiancé" is masculine and "fiancée" is feminine.
Lol apologies to everyone for switching the gender in my initial comment, it was an error on my part 😂
@@NoName-mi8jsA good amount of people don't know the difference between "fiancé" and "fiancée". Just like people will use "blonde" instead of "blond" to describe men. Since they sounds the same people spell it the same. I'm guessing it's a man, since the poster uses "her" to reference the fiancé(e).
The percentage of "actually cheating" is interesting. It makes sense they'd want solid proof so they can proceed with a divorce without any he said/she said possibility. Very interesting subject!
as he'd said, in most cases the partner would have made their own investigation beforehand and likely needed professionals for solid, irrefutable proof.
Honestly I was surprised it's not 90%+
You don't call pest control if you don't think you have rats, and people don't just decide they have rats.
@@VoxAstra-qk4jz However, sometimes you see things you assume to be left by rats and think you have rats when you actually don't.
@@pingu6028 Indeed.
I loved his comment about the fiancé test and tbh it’s hinting at something he can’t say or he’d lose his job. This truth is that if you can’t trust your spouse to such an extent you need to hire a PI your relationship is done the trust is gone and that’s a fundamental part of any working relationship.
We all know “illegal” is just another word for “very expensive” 😂
That is true. Illegal is illegal but there will always be a very expensive price, whether monetary, emotional, or otherwise.
For the right price anything is aplicable even to countries. Latvijas annual government budget is 10 billion, so if you offer to pay Latvijas government 10 billion for a favor (offering to duble the government budget for a year) ods are parlament will agree to the deal.
funny he didn't answer properly the question "have you ever been caught spying?" lol
🤣 bad for business
Most likely have. My grandfather dealing with the russijan mafia once notices a suspicios guy watching him pretending to be fixing his car on the other street. He walked up to him looked in his eyes and told the guy to go get a life. The guy drove off immidetly and was never seen again, wonder what he told his boss. The 90s where a strange time, grandfather carried a gun with him at all times for fear of assasins.
He dodged a lot of the questions, but he does have his job to protect.
The way he answered it sounded like a "Yes, I've been caught, but I'm not going to tell you who, when, how or how often."
He didn't want to admit he has failed in his job
This was great! He was open and informative and didn't evade any questions, but was discreet, for example, about the child case.
If you have to hire a PI to investigate your fiancee... there IS no trust and they should NOT be marrying you . OMG!
guy is 100% an incel for asking that question
i mean what marriage now a days works out anyways lmao
@@submrge about 60% of them last time I checked.
@@user-fk8zw5js2p even perfectly bright red looking apples have worms within them. you never know untill you pry it open
Yes and no, I could see it go both ways. Investigating them for no reason, yeah, obvious major red flag. But as the guy said, if there is an actual reason for the suspicion more often than not, it turns out to be true. Better to know that before than after. Still a lack of trust that in itself could lead to trouble down the road.
Well I hope this fine gentleman is either 16:01 retired or no longer pounding the pavement. After over 2.5 million views, his days of secretive surveillance are severely compromised.
There could be 100 million views on this video and he still wouldn’t get caught and he knows it which is why he agreed to do it.
What about stalkers and abusive ex partners. Do privet investigators help them find their victims or do they turn them down? If they do help and someone gets hurt or killed because of it, are investigators partially responsible by law? If not they should be.
Yes, aiding and abetting criminal behavior is usually also its self illegal.
@@kittiescorner222 possibly yeah, I mean it's all about intent.
If the PI knew that the said person was a stalker or criminal and intentionally helped them then yes it is a conspiracy charge
If the PI wasn't aware. It's not a conspiracy, also such things are probably written in the contract.
Sort of, as a pi myself it’s a good idea to look into your clients.
@@Faceplay2 Would you cover for that first cheater?
@ that’s not my job my job is to get the truth if they’re cheating, we let our client know if we’re not cheating we don’t falsify evidence. It’s as simple as that
Thank you for very straight forward and honest answers. (some people are a bit questionable or over dramatize things unnecessarily)
My ex husband’s stalker hired a PI to get information about him. It was a bit like the Baby Reindeer story - as far as he was nice to her, as she was a guest in his restaurant. She became obsessed with him, thereby dragging our son and me into it. I was very upset to learn that a PI can be used to help unhinged people track down personal information about their target. Horribly unethical!
The question I would have wanted to have asked is:
Did you ever take a job whereupon successfully solving the case, realised you could not morally give the information back to the client, because of what you found out in your investigating?
As someone who is a PI I can answer that for you, nope because I’m doing what I’m paid to do. Aka find stuff.
@@Faceplay2 Even if you realised that your client was abusive towards the person they wanted found, and there was a reason they went "missing"?
@@naomigreen9749 im sure you could just go to the police after the job and tell them about the situation
@@Faceplay2
That sounds morally wrong. Sometimes the people you "are paid to find" have gone missing for a reason, and telling your client where they are could get them abused or killed
I assume there's a legal imperative to report such a situation to the police. Whether a PI actually does so or not 'cause they want their money and they probably don't get paid if they go to the cops depends on the individual in question... but I suspect they would unless they're SUPER shady (like mafia lawyer territory), because that's not a risk worth taking.
9:10 Max Fosh paid two private investigators to follow each other.
Help I was thinking exactly this when he said that 😭🙏
And now he cant hire them ever again. I stopped watching that troll when I saw him do real damage, like slander a countries democratic system.
@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 which
@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 our democratic system's fine lol max fosh didn't affect it negatively
Exactly what I thought
3:50
Very glad to see that he's calling out that insanity called a "test".
@14:03 I actually heard of this case. That child committed suicide 2 weeks after being returned to their father. Their child was trying to escape. The weird pauses he's making and why the child's father was so shocked at their child's appearance is because of this child transitioned into living as a woman. I mean what he said about this case is not at all shocking. He knows it as a shocking case because of all the other circumstances that he's not addressing.
what became of the mother?
her name was eden, right?
@@jude9979 Yep Eden Knight.
Nah, i searched the name up, sounds like a different story. Eden was an adult and was living with an unkown family in America, coerced to go back by people called fixers dont know what that means. But sounds different to the case.he is talking about in the video.
@yara438 The person in the video said it was handed off to some colleagues of his who did the rest. Seriously how often do you think something like this happens? Do you think that this is a frequent occurrence? This is far too uncommon of a thing to happen in the first place that to have so many things line up perfectly is unlikely. Not to mention that child's dad refused to believe that it was their child based on their appearance. That is an incredibly peculiar thing for any parent to do. In fact I can only think of one reason a parent would ever refuse that and that reason fits this case. And at no point did anybody say that this was a minor, just that it was their child. That is an assumption that you have made. You don't stop being somebody's child when you turn 18.
"Interrogating databases" sounds like making queries but, like, aggressively 😂
Tactical googling
@@georgiykireev9678google dorking
you write the queries in all caps for intimidation
@@aki-senkinn This is what SQL was designed for!
*splashed water on monitor*
Cells A1 - E54!! Export to PDF!
9:27 not if one rises earlier than the other and gets to other's house before he leaves, then he gets to follow the other guy drive over to his house and sit outside lol, would be extremely trippy and confusing moment
My friend was a PI and got hired to follow a possible cheating spouse. The guy was going to a nudist colony to cheat. I kept trying to get my friend to tell me where he would hide his camera 🤣
Maybe he could get some glasses that records what he's looking at. Or just get a small camera and hide it in his hair. Or maybe a watch that can record things. Even at a nudist colony, there are things people can wear without standing out.
People still have their phones on them, no?
@@caroldias5219 they don’t allow pictures at a lot of nudist colonies
@@caroldias5219youre not usually allowed smartphones in nudist areas since people don't want creeps to take pictures.
You still need to bring your stuff at the beach, or you won't be able to leave.
Hide anything you want in your bag.
LMAO the “tourism comments” cover is actually so big brain 3:06
it's too big brain for me idgi
3:50 That dude sounds like a psycho.
Incel level question
"trust, but verify" 😂
funny that an "witchling" would defend blind trust, since witches are known for cheating
LOL THAT GUY! "I always recommend" dude you've never been in a relationship in your life, GTFO trying to pretend you're not a perpetually online incel.
Dont slander us who dont feel emotion like the rest. Hes just insecure. I for one wouldnt be getting married if I didnt trust the girl with my life.
9:20 Max Fosh has actually done that
Yes and it was legendary
Source? Sounds entertaining
Was just about to say this!
@@zSKW1GGLEZzits on his youtube channel
It was great, too.
Uhhhh Middle Eastern client trying to locate his child who was with the wife who had forged his signature in order to leave the country... pretty sure she had successfully escaped an abuser and this guy reunited them. And I'll bet it was Saudi Arabia.
My thoughts exactly. Women in the Middle East have few rights. I don’t know anything about that case but I’m genuinely concerned they reunited an abusive father with his child and deprived the mother of having access to the child. Few women go through that much trouble not to be found.
Yeah WTF - She escaped by the sounds of it and this guy is casually talking about tracking her down and getting the child taken.
How do you know the woman wasn't the abuser? It's sad that you automatically made a negative assumption about him based on his gender and race. Don't make sexist assumptions.
@@AlmostDefinitely How do you know the mother wasn't the abuser? Don't make sexist assumptions.
@@ChuckChuckWood How do you know the mother wasn't the abuser? Don't make sexist assumptions.
I seriously thought they meant PI as your PhD supervisor, I should go write my thesis.
That was my first thought as well.
The guitar might have been Kurt Cobain’s… his daughter gave it to her first husband and there was drama getting it back after they divorced
I thought he was talking about Paul McCartney's guitar for a hot minute but I felt dumb when I remembered that guitar was stolen, not lent out
@@charityquill4965That bass never went very far actually. Interesting story, supposedly it's insured for quite a bit now.
Have you ever told a client "You can't handle the truth."?
I wouldn't. Not if I expected to get paid.
Guess that depends on the clients sense of humor.
@@daveh7720Unlock more truth for only £10.99
He didn't actually answer whether or not he's ever been spotted on the job. I'm guessing he has if he's avoiding the question.
I also wonder about the morality of tracking down someone. Like, what if someone is trying to escape an abusive partner and said partner hires a PI to track the victim down? Does a PI usually investigate the clients before taking them on?
i assume they do some type of a background checks on the clients as well. at least I hope so, because the situation you're describing is nightmarish
@@maksimally I would hope a PI wouldn't aid and abate a crime? I feel like that is means enough to just turn down the job.
@@senaeu yeah i bet, but it's worse when he doesn't know the client is a stalker and just thinks they're trying to find a lost person. hopefully they do a background check of the client and/or in case they find that person, they don't reveal where they are.
The way he spoke implied that he has and it's just something that happens, and that he also wasn't going to say who, when, where, why, how or how often it happens.
I believe if they have reason to suspect the information will be used to commit a crime, they have an obligation to report it to the police. Not doing so would put them in legal trouble and, I suspect, risk them losing their license or being similarly penalized. Or perhaps they tell the client they can't complete the request and refund part of the money given to them already, but don't go to the police about it. Actually giving that information over would be super risky.
3:15 Dang that's clever.
14:00 most shocking case -what if the man was abusive and the woman had finally been able to escape him 😕
Or the opposite, what if she was the abuser and found him...
White Toyota Camry is probably the most nondescript car you can have in my country. They are everywhere. The other is a Ford Ranger, also everywhere. I wonder if most PI cases are just for insurance fraud and similar, such as collecting govt disability benefits, but still working physical jobs, for example.
Gray Honda Accord. Definitely not the Sport edition.
Anything silver in the United States, I would say.
Crown Victoria
My (completely unfounded) guess would be that's the SECOND most common case. With the most common being investigating suspicions of (or merely collecting evidence of an already confirmed) infidelity.
"You should have your partner professionally stalked before marrying them" is wild advice.
women are insane, yes
I feel so bad for the ex-wife and kid of the middle eastern banker. It's more probable than not that she fled an abusive relationship and that guy manaed to make her life even worae.
It's disturbing that you are assuming that based only on the gender and nationality of the man who hired the PI. For all you know, the mother was the abusive one. Stop making sexist assumptions.
@@greywolf7577 I am not assuming anything. The situation of women (and lack of rights) in the middle east is well-known, hence "it's more probable than not".
Btw "middle eastern" is not a nationality.
@@greywolf7577shut up you’ve been saying this everywhere which makes 0 sense for a country like saudi arabia where women dont particularly have rights
My first thought. We dont know what country it was but ugh
@@greywolf7577you named yourself after a right wing extremist Turkish organization. You are hardly objective
While it's true that you can't access people's private data, if someone is married to the person they're investigating, they can often just give it to you.
I liked Mike, please bring him back for more.
Crazy how you think it's probably nothing like the movies, and then it kind of is. A van full of clothes to switch in and out of?
Wouldn't be very good surveillance if you looked the same everywhere you went.
Worthwhile to take into consideration that he would probably like to boost his and his company's reputation and telling elaborate cases would have a financial incentive. Not suggesting that he's lying about specific cases, but I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of cases don't require as much theatrics.
If you are hiring a PI to investigate cheating, the marriage is already over.
Yes but it is often done for legal reasons.
what do you have to hide?
@@stefthorman8548Some purple crayons
Probably just getting evidence for court
That's generally the idea. The PI is to get favorable evidence for divorce court, so you don't get stuck paying alimony to a cheater or something like that.
Ah the "fiance test" one. It's funny when people who have absolutely no business being married, who have no clue how to actually love and trust someone, give out advice. It's almost kind of offensive for someone to be just so bewilderingly unskilled to be giving advice on any topic with such confidence.
Which side is the “unskilled” one and why?
Seriously, someone who fundamentally doesn't understand that if you don't trust someone, you can't possibly love them, so you shouldn't bother being married to begin with.
Stay a bachelor, this isn't the 1960s anymore. No one who matters cares if you get married.
@@steggopotamus “Trust but verify” is entirely reasonable.
@@Papa-Murphy why do you think I care about your opinion?
@@steggopotamus seeing as you just self-reported as small-minded I don’t think you’re of any value
“It is pretty even between men and women”
Menosphere: “I’m just gonna pretend I didn’t hear that”
For real 🤣
‘75% of people who are so suspicious that their partner is cheating that they pay money to figure it out are proven right’
Guys, have I got a statistic for you.
"MeN dOnT cHeAt .... ThEy ExErCiSe OpTiOnS" derpa derpa derpa
@@scootergirl3662 literally 😭😭
Theres some nuance to that quote imo, I believe women have more opportunities to be infidel than men
Shout out to the producers of the WIRED ____ Support videos, because this one is one of the best ever! Great guest, great questions, and great direction! Well done!
I like that he explained that the number is artificially inflated by selection bias.
I was planning on being a private investigator when I grew up. After starting a family as a younger adult and I decided that it didn't seem safe. My investigative nature is still a big part of how approach things in the world.
So somebody paid for a ski vacation for several investigators only to find out their person wasn’t even cheating 🥴
The happy ending.
Doctors will do this lol.
I looked at the thumbnail too quickly and thought this was Babish 😭
While the most important thing to a marriage is fidelity, a secondary consideration to wealthy clients with high- security careers may be the attempt by someone to blackmail or somehow compromise or endanger the client, and if the client is sure their spouse is cheating, but can't catch them or prove it, this may be further suggestion that it's not mere romance but something more nefarious, indication that something very premeditated and criminal is going on, and therefore a PI is hired.
u/deleted must be glued to the computer... I see that name everywhere on reddit 😅
im not sure if youre aware, but that is a deleted user, not someone named deleted
@@wrightcember (it's a joke)
2:53 hiding in plain sight is such an underrated tactic
Beautiful use of it here
What kind of doubt!?!?! 1:32
Very interesting and enjoyable. He answered every question pretty thoroughly.
I swear, that street illustration is mesmerizing
Regarding surveillance devices - you CAN'T conclusively tell. You can be pretty sure, but to scan for it, it has to be emitting, and more sophisticated devices won't start signalling if they aren't moving, or use other measures to remain inactive when reporting isn't needed. For instance, they may be scheduled to transmit when someone wants to know where you go at 5:00 every afternoon, or if realtime tracking isn't needed, they may connect to the internet every five minutes, very briefly. If the scanner's not near the device WHILE it's actively connected, and you don't physically clock it, then you just never know.
i love watching this very serious man read people's goofy online handles
9:25 was actually done by a youtuber.. he hired two guys to watch each other and it worked
I once worked with a woman whose husband was a PI specializing in insurance fraud cases. He did a lot of surveillance and caught people doing normal things while drawing disability or being involved in lawsuits where they claimed to be disabled. Some cases were resolved in favor of the person being investigated, some in favor of the person/company who requested the surveillance. He would go to court to give testimony regarding what he had observed.
OMG he gave the missing Beetles guitar back! I just heard Paul McCartney tell this story on the Tonight show!
Max Fosh did hire two investigators to follow each other
He tried and failed to.
He absolutely did not actually do that. Despite the video title you're referring to. Geez today's media literacy man...
9:35 “you don’t know how to switch off!!” -hot fuzz
14:41 the middle eastern case is so morally questionable. What country was this? What were the circumstances? Women have very few rights in the Middle East. Awful.
Forgery is still a crime
@@jeffmccullough7341 when women need a man’s signature to leave the country, her forging the signature is 100% okay.
@@jeffmccullough7341 Leaving a cult is still a death sentence crime in those countries, do you agree with that?
A what 1:35 doubt?
Niggling, learn British vocabulary instead of assuming racism moron
Niggling.
@@James-mm2zcso that's what they're callin' the small ones, huh?
Unrelated to the word you're thinking of. You can look up its etymology online.
Reddit has made me such a nosey body that I have to watch this
0:27
There was a case in the Pittsburgh general area where a women had been blackmailing many, many individuals. Both her residence and also her car was wired up with numerous cameras (especially the residence). She had blackmailed a minimum of 20+ people for many millions of dollars.
Irony, she is now married to a lawyer and living in a different state. Someone has written a book about this person
This was really good - v disciplined man to keep his stories that concise but still both interesting and satisfying, which meant we got thru more Qs than I thought possible 👏🤯👏👏
2:03 title card question
Unless you are a super wealthy and fully paranoid person, I would say most people who are whipping out the wallet or purse to pay actual money to a professional PI are already fairly confident that cheating is occurring, but only need the PI to get incontrovertible evidence. I doubt many people are thinking like hey my husband/wife has been loving and fully faithful for 10 years, but this past week they just started taking their phone with them when they shower, so I better hire a Private Investigator 😂
fiance test guy needs to be on a watch list
This video made me think about the time Max Fosh hired a PI to follow another PI
The confidential sticker on the empty folder had me in tears
hey those are top secret ur not supposed to look at it