Nibbi PE30 on Hawk 250 with Loncin RE250 Engine SWAP Motovlog & Review
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- Опубліковано 3 лип 2024
- I finally got a Nibbi PE30 carburetor, the Nibbi intake and the Nibbi air filter for my 2019 RPS Hawk 250 with the Loncin RE250 engine swap. The engine is a clone of a Honda CRF230F engine and has an overhead cam and six speed manual transmission. It did make a noticeable difference, but isn't a magical cure for a lack of displacement. Come along for a test ride and be there when a distracted driver pulls out right in front of me.
Here are the parts used in this video.
Nibbi PE30 Carb amzn.to/2Lcwzc6
Alternate Nibbi Link (if 1st is out of stock) amzn.to/3ch8JYF
Nibbi Intake for Hawk 250 amzn.to/3fpH7lY
Nibbi 48mm Air Filter amzn.to/2SLgoqc
Carb Jet Kit amzn.to/2SKxKU7
K&N Straight Air Filter (may work for you) amzn.to/3fsM9OG
All of My Hawk 250 Mods in My Amazon Storefront
www.amazon.com/shop/jackofall... - Авто та транспорт
Hey! just ordered my hawk and that carb. been watching all the vids i can, but when i want a great ride along i come back to this one! great sound and i feel right in the action!
One of my favorite and fastest hawks on youtube! Hope to see more videos soon. I just got a bashon brozz 250 and i hope to use some of the mods you did on my bike. Thanks for sharing them!
Nice to see more people rocking the PE30. Glad my jetting worked out for ya. It took me a while to get that part figured out lol. The adjustments being where they are is one of the best parts of that carbutetor too.
What jetting do you use ? What numbers ?
Same lol. Watched the video but you did it originally so I would like to know from you. Thanks
That Carb is a Beauty!! The bike sounds Great!!
Here in Philippines we have a motorcycle with that engine. The number 1 recommended replacement for carb was always nibbi pe30. It's by far the best value for money, easy to tune, plug and play and superb quality for that engine. Great choice!
Is it a Rusi Classic 250?
I just bought a nibbi carburetor and filter for my kids 125cc and got it on. All I had to do was adjust the air screw, idle screw a small small amount and adjust the needle up one to make it more rich at topend(just cause). It Worked amazing.. I personally think its more the motors being Chinese made that the piston rings are not gaped the same to every 125 motor 150, and so on so comparison ratios are all over the place from my motor to your motor to the next one an that is causing more the issues then anything.
Watched your whole build this far. Great job, especially with the documenting! I believe you would be much more glad for your efforts, if you were to swap BACK to the original. I truly feel that the whole swap, this far, is a much further step forward in the comfort segment, which is equally critical in my opinion for any ADV bike.
I really like what you did, and I feel thankful someone took the time to capture what is possible with enough patience. I'm mostly curious as too how much smoother the counter-balanced variant makes things. It's something possibly you only know!
Well done
Thanks for the comment. The best thing about this swap honestly is the counter balanced engine. It isn't a whole lot more powerful but six gears is fun and there is absolutely no vibration transmitted from the engine. It makes more a much smoother, more comfortable ride.
That carb looks awesome
Mean sounding hawk👍👍👍👍
Steve from Annapolis Maryland you got my vote nice video nibbi carburetor all the way
45 mph on a 30 mph road going up a hill with a slight blind curve and talking to UA-cam, I'm glad your ok sir! Driver was blind to see you until they pulled out which they need to fix with a mirror or sign or something cause I'm sure that is not the first time for them to almost get T-Boned from that direction. Again I'm glad your OK. *I have done the same and I'm reminded by my 150 BPM to slow down and pay attention. You did great on control of the bike. Blessings
It's a 55mph road
Like your videos. You do interesting things.
Btw... Get an adjustable rear shock. U will love it
best upgrade i experienced on a friends CG250 clone engine like the Hawk one is : remove 1 of the 3 layers from the metal head-gasket, port the in and outlet and put a orig mikuni TM33-12 Flatslide Carb on it........ difference is like day and night and the cheapest way to get more power
Thanks for sharing very helpful
I’m like your set up thx for the video
I figured the carb would be larger, I have a 24mm carb ona 88cc scooter engine, it's a bit crazy tuning, because it's originally for 125-150 engines, but it's not stock, it has a large valve head ported about as far as it can go without welding or epoxy, I do thavetge intake as as far as it can possibly go, it looked like Swiss cheese then fixed with epoxy, I also have a 150 aftermarket intake I'm going to try, it's about the same internally as the stock mod intake, but with the cam exhaust and carb, it will do about 60-65 on a very slight down hill, the only way I can tell it's down hill us it's slower going the other direction! It looks flat! I have looked at nibbi carbs because I'm looking to do a slide carb conversion, a 26mm is about as far as I'd want to go, 24mm is plenty large, although small for a 150with any mods, around 26-30 with a big bore cam exhaust, a 30 works from 171- 232cc, I figure I'm over 6hp not bad for a 4t that started out as a 49cc, I'm planning on getting a stroker crank, that will get it to 95-96cc and hopefully gain a HP or 3, and a decent gain in TQ, the head should flow plenty enough to turn 11k even at 95+cc,
The good thing about these Chinese scooter and bikes, they are cheap, and some are clones of Honda engines, and yeah I have about been a hood ornament like that myself, they don't see bikes, especially scooters, they don't expect them to be fast! I can pass cars alot of the time at stoplights, if I'm moving and they are just getting the green, it runs the best from about 5-30 mph, and does 35-45 easily, it's hard to keep it at the legal speed! To start with me on it it was about 25 mph full on! Now flats, it will easily do 40-45, 55at full throttle (after about a mile) but hey it's a 50cc scooter, it's not going to be that fast, I don't want to go much over 55, on the small 10" rims, i want to get a hawk, maybe swap a 250 ninja engine, maybe something a bit larger, a 600 ninja engine is kinda small!! Maybe ??? Ha-ha wouldn't that be cool!!
You know your velocity stack air filters,.....well they also make one for your crank case breather.
At this point it's not really the Hawk anymore. It's more like the "Super-Hawk".
"Mighty" super-kawk
Technically u have to put the bore kit on and raise it 50 ccs to call it superhawk. About to do it to mine. But have no clue why that's what puts u into superhawk category. But superhawks are 300 cc from whay I get out of it
If you do a big bore kit you should be all set
You will have to put a bigger cam in the engine to get a better top end.
I'd like to see your old engine go into a Lifan kp150 mini.
Going in the right direction!
I would recommend exhaust ,port and deck the head and re-jet the carburetor.
I would recommend using the money and energy buying a bigger bike.
@@Uriel-Septim.
No fun in that. Anybody can just go out and buy a bike. I have several motorcycles and I have wrenched on all of them and made them my own.
That's the creative fun of it.
@@daveheimes241 Yea I have been there too, and maybe it is because of my job (building machines in stainless steel for the medical and textile industries) that made me less interested in doing that in my free time beside getting older, now my top priority is to ride them and enjoy that rather then getting my hands dirty and don`t get me wrong, I still do so on my bikes, but what I meant, is that it often is`t worth using a lot of money trying to make an existing bike faster, better way is to sell it and buy a bigger one, sure an air filter (when you have to replace it anyway) and maybe even an exhaust, I can partly understand, tho it might not be ideal for your engine (can actually break it or make it worse) but to install a hole new engine to gain, what ? next to nothing the bike still run around 60 right ?
@@Uriel-Septim.
LOL, I can completely relate to that my friend!
@@Uriel-Septim. seems to me that the bottom line is that is Dave's bike.. need I say more? I get it I have a drz400 and I have done a big bore, hot cams, fcr pumper carb, Yoshi exhaust ect. ect. Sure I could spend on a different bike (but I probably wrench on new to). Deal is I really like my DRZ and I enjoy the wrenching. Sorry for being so long winded...I get it.
If you would like a ported head, send me a stock one. Put bigger valves in it first if you want. My Lifan has a TBR-7 motor with a cam from Portugal, ported head, deleted base gasket, single layer head gasket, opened up exhaust, and stock carb. Very similar performance, maybe slightly more. I really wish I had that 6th gear though! Mine screams at me if I don't give it premium gas.
Hey man. Great videos! What jetting did you ultimately end up with? And at what elevation?
I just threw a nibbi on my Loncin and haven’t gotten it quite right yet!
What jetting numbers did you go with ? And will they be good with the factory engine ?
8 inch shock with coil over so I would cut the spring coil. And the also have 9 in. And a 10 in. Mono shock exactly fit to the Hawk Carburator Hongda type I while DHI bike is type II and pro like yours is type III but six speed is not on Hawk's back of cylinder Hongda
I ordered the new Nibbi carburetor for my bike, my bike has almost 6000 miles on it and I ran the stock carburetor without touching it, but now it’s giving me problems so I’m ordering the new Nibbi. But honestly, I’ve got 65 miles an hour out of mine with the regular carburetor on it.
I have a dr200se and have run it for years but I'm tired of the stock carb and want to move to something else what do you think for it to get a little more out of it
That Nibbi carb always caught my eye it's a good looking unit. Do you think a pumper type carb would make a difference? Sixth gear is a great option. Good job👍
ya i had an xr200 with fmf exhaust and top speed was about the same as yours. 62-64
try a bit of Aviation fuel ( helicopter fuel )
Just hooked up the nibbi and engine won’t start. Started with the stock carb any ideas? I double checked every connection
Wassup u think the 125 an 35 jet set up will be ok with the stock engine an exhaust for now?
have you tried to use small canister filter on crank hose and remove stock air box?
I tried it with the filter and the way I have my carb set up any filter suffocates it so I made a ram air intake with a turbo inside
I installed but my bike is idling at 600rpms? Any thoughts 🤔🤔🤔
You are correct about turning a dirt bike into an ADV. Grab a used GS and you can go cross country. Everyone needs a few bikes! Haha.
Hey bro jet i need to put in the nibbi carb
My Hawk with the stock engine does 70MPH but it is the fuel injected 250cc
Is that GPS confirmed? The stock speedometer is not at all accurate. And it's not a 250. It has 229cc.
@@JackofAllMasterofNone The speedometer matches my girlfriends car to the mile per hour (a 2023 Toyota Rav4) and its withing 2 miles in per hour in either direction of any road side radars I've gone by. I know its a 230 but they call it a 250. Also its fuel injected and a 2021 model year. I drive it 27 miles every day that its not raining to and from work and I go by 3 pole mounted radars. Not only that who cares about 1 or 2 miles an hour, I've had it read out over 70 at some points but it doesn't hold that speed.
Hey man. Sorry if this has been asked before. so I removed the stock carb on my TBR7 and I already have the PE30. I don't know if it's the same as the hawk but..What do I do with the choke cable (that ran from the left handle bar down to the stock carb? Is it okay to remove it or am I mistaken ? haven't taken a close look at it but I was just under the impression the choke on the Nibbi was only adjustable on the actual PE30 Non the less I think it's a smart design to have the choke adjustable from the left grip/handle
And also how do you get that badass MPH you have on your sceen like that? 17:26
What about a "big bore" kit ?
What jet i need to put in the nibbi carb
Which flanger did you use?
Can this fit into the regular air box
What did you do with the vacuum line that was on the original intake do you hook it into the Nibbi carburetor?
The vacuum line can either be used on the nibbi carburetor or you can cut it off and close the hole to the airbox. Your choice.
The idea is to get this for the hawk and give the hawk's to the hellcat hahaha 1 one gear for each haha probably bigger bore too for the halk.
Do u know if the nibbi will mount up to the stock parts on the hawk ...I'm having a hell of a time finding a intake manifold for it ...any info will be helpful
It doesn't. Mounts different
I have ATV R7 Is Tao Tao I changed the Sprocket off the bikeInto a 38It has a beautiful taking offAnd goes 70 miles an hour and moreAnd 5th gear sounds like you idlingYou gotta try you'll love your bikeYou can open the Is carburetor And put it in 1 21 25 Jet You'll have a mean bike
Would a nibbi carb work on a 125cc moped
What gearing did you find to work best
Great videos buddy !! I have a stock 2020 hawk 250 and will be installed the nibbi carb . Do u think I should run the carb straight out of the box like it is or change the jets out..if so what size should I go with ? Any info will be super appreciated .. cuz I've never done a carb swap b4...thanks and happy china riding !!!
I wouldn’t run it with the stock jets. I’d buy the jet kit. Flat slide carbs are slightly different and need larger size jets then the old style rounded (like the VM26 clones). So Stock I’d try that 32 idle jet and the 120 main jet (depending on your distance from sea level) I am also having the problem of what mount will fit with the stock motor. I don’t really wanna grind down the frame like all of the reviews on the Amazon listing for this carb say you have too.
Edit: I now realize this is not a PWK clone but a PE so it is not a flat slide. I would still look into jetting it
@@alexchristian5399 I didnt have to grind the frame at all. Idk who's saying that but as long as u get the right intake manifold it mounts up . The rubber on the cone filter touches the frame just a little bit but it's no concern ..I posted a video after it was installed and tuned and my hawk loves the nibbi ...its not to hard of an install...tuning is pain in the but but I got it right finally ...its running so good now ..I recommend it for the hawk 100 percent...ride on bro !!
Gotta add another thing... It'sa shame it doesn't come with a kick start. Sad in case the battery goes bad or something...gotta give that good ol' push start.
They have to remove the kick start to make room for 6 gears. Unfortunately it's what you have to sacrifice to have that extra gear and it's worth it
@@JackofAllMasterofNone yeah man. So true. We can always push start it anyways lol
Fuck a kick start lol. Small price to pay. And actually an awesome one. I'd rather deal with keeping it running well than to have to kick the big bitch lol. Iv had 2 back surgeries so that isn't any fun.
Hey bro what could be my problem if mines not firing right up like yours. I'm having to hold the starter button down for like 5-6 seconds
Needs more fuel to start. So either activate the choke or in my case it has a pretty fat jet so it runs rich all the time.
So with the airbox delete... do you have a catch can for the crankcase oil breather?
I didn't delete the airbox. I'm just not using it. It's still there and the crankcase vent hose still attached to it.
@@JackofAllMasterofNone yeah I saw that after in the episode... I've deleted mine just need a catch can and rain deflect... although I do not ride much in the rain
Hello! In Japan, there was little information on PE30, which was a very nice video for me, and it was very helpful.
I also got PE30 and installed on My Kawasaki KL250G. The revs up between the low and medium speeds is poor and I am struggling. Could you tell me the setting of the pilot jet and main jet numbers?
Try 115 MAIN, 38 PILOT
Sounds good but I believe it could hit 72🤷🏻♂️ nice vid . I run a vm 32 with a knock off kuni 115 main an the clamp needle in the middle on a 125 grom clone. it’s running pretty good with some bog but I didn’t change the exhaust yet so I’ll do that then maybe go up in size on the jet if it bogs . I’m new to this so I’m learning but I did get my grom up to 63 mph lol . I love my little 125s but I did order the hawk EFI so been watching many many videos lol trying to start a little channel but it’s hard when your still learning how to do the work .I’m getting good tho! I’ll sub an give you a like bro . Keep coming with content an I’ll try to do the same. I’ll definitely watch the vids you put out tho 👍.
What millimeter is the filter
Will that work on the tbr7
Will that work on a x pro 250 titan
👍🏾👍🏾
That car pulling out in front of you was scary. That's a terrible driveway. They need to trim the trees and bushes at the end. They might be pretty but they're going to hurt someone.
How do you like a very high seat height of the professional digital install of similar to my carburator and not get install digital cluster speedometer 239cc. J like lowest seat height from a test at the mono shock shortest dampener plain American rear part and Chinese Shinko tires bike from Monroe and Ranger EBAY shocks.the shock costs $139.00 for 8 inch tall plus tax comparing to my
Привет. Какая у тебя сзади ведомая звезда, на сколько зубов?
Appeared that the motorcycle was going a bit fast for the car to react. That carb is dangerous.
What did u do with the old air filter hose that was in the carburetor did u take the air box out
I left the air filter box and just sealed off the hole in the box where the hose was.
Hey both the links for the carb say they are out of stock.. I want this exact one you have I really like the looks of it ..can you post a link where it's in stock ?
You will just have to look around. Check eBay. They are really popular right now.
Thanks!! I love your channel!! You teach me a lot.. I have a 2018 CSC TT 250 just like the hawk.. my stock carb and jetting work just fine but I was thinking of getting the eBay crf 230 exhaust and maybe a better carb idk or just re jet mine when I get the exhaust
where can i get the digital gauges from for the hawk??
eBay or Amazon
I gotta buy this engine
What seat is that? I love it..
It's the stock seat with an ATV seat cover on it. You can buy on Amazon. Look in this link below. All of My Hawk 250 Mods in My Amazon Storefront
www.amazon.com/shop/jackofallmasterofnone?listId=2BI8AYH33YDWQ
Then the air gap box below the saddle is always paper pleated breather. But you are Red Line Super fast Motocross Enduro jump motor bike with red filter cap and NIPPI with a cable for choke and I like but neither Mikuni and Nibbi car builder and it is proof that the car painter buy a car pre-owned.
Wassup how you does that carb in this video fit on the stock hawk 250 engine?
Yes it does
Thanks so I can jus buy the carb an install will it still connect to the original filter an is it 26mm or 30mm
I have a basically stock 2020 hawk, some mods but nothing done on the engine yet but I just bought the nibbi carb so I'll post an install video to my channel ...wish me luck
Le falta a esa moto velocidad final 60 y un motor 250 con 6 cambio recomiendo piñon 17 plato trasero 40 o 42
What did you do with the vacuum line that came out the intake?
It is still connected to the air box.
I got another question what Jets did you use in the Nibbi carburetor I got the aftermarket exhaust and I can't figure out what's the best combination 132 and 35 makes it backfire I've tried 120 and 40 I really don't know which way to go up or down I don't have my head su ported or polished or decked so finicky yes I have no idea what I'm doing
Nice,how is this engine loncin re250,any issues,problem,whats your recommendation?
This engine is great. Much smoother than the stock cg engine in the Hawk.
@@JackofAllMasterofNone thanks
What’s the top sleep bro?????
72mph
17t front sprocket
A 17 front sprocket and 45 rear sprocket would be the best setup for almost every single motorcycle manufactured good acceleration and top speed and mpg.
Swap the cam.
lol you guys worry me. any bike at that speed will rash your butt. but these would be hard to use as a barrier as you slide 100 ft. lol then a car pulls out..
Is that carb touching the frame?
No
@@JackofAllMasterofNone cool. What intake? Because I got one and it the carb hits
My grom hit faster then that . It should do better !
is it possible to fit this carb on a Yamaha xv250cc?