Thanks for sharing. I’ll offer a correction regarding the barrels which are actually Geisselle in-house produced cold hammer forged.. I remember when they brought in the forge to their factory. The copy I’ve got time on was good to go, my top recommendation 👍
I'd heard about geissele triggers being really solid before I got personally into firearms, I'd also heard their URGI is a fantastic system. Come to do my research and found they do everything for ARs, and knowing what I know about cars/motorcycles I figured buying everything from a single company is probably the way to go. Bought a 16" Duty Upper (identical to super duty except CMV non-CHF barrel, and super duty being identical to the URGI except for Geissele Length gas system not carbine length), super duty lower + parts, SSA-E trigger, B5 stock and plopped a Vortex Strike Eagle 1-8FFP on there and boy golly is it a joy to shoot. I'm no marksman by any means and its not very impressive but piping 300yd silouhettes was effortless. 1.5MOA groups with it, me obviously being the weak link, its just crazy how easy it is to shoot given its my first firearm ever.
These barrels are made by Geissele and they are cold hammer-forged chrome-lined barrels only the outside of the barrel is nitrate coated instead of phosphate.
I just picked up my Super duty yesterday in the DDC color. Haven’t gotten to the range yet but I must say the fit and finish is top notch and the colors are superb. Also glad I found a price that was too good to pass up! Thanks for the review
@@jereck2392 I religiously looked on multiple websites for months and stumbled on gunbroker on a listing for that color that was way below everyone else. Looked and it was a gun shop 30 min away from Geissele in Pennsylvania!
Let us know what you think. I’m picking up a 40mm green w/ 16” barrel today, I found one that has a nitrided barrel, personal preference thing. Dropped a little coin on the rifle but hey, buy once cry once right ?
For whatever reasons, not so many reviews on the Super Duty series. It happens that I just bought one and saw your video right after. Your review is valuable for sure, thank you~!
I have the ddm4v7 16” and the geissele super duty 14.5”. I personally prefer the geissele. It’s got magic in it. The Daniel is amazing but the geissele is amazing
I have to agree with the trigger description. I just bought my first Geissele trigger about a month ago. The hype is real! They know triggers! I will be buying Geissele triggers for the rest of my builds. I love the full power springs. I got sick of the light primer strikes.
I’m not hung up on Geissele’s reliability but what I am hung on is this thing weighs a ton so I’m told I shot a old M16 the other day and I was blown away with how light it was so I might be a little biased!🧠🤯🔫
I can't sing thise rifle's praises enough,! The geissele super duty is accurate, soft shooting, trigger is phenomenal, reliable, and runs whatever I put in it. I would be willing to bet that jam was a fluke too because I have another rifle with reliability similar to the super duty and it malfunctioned 1 time around the 7/800 round count and hasn't done it again out of several hundred rounds since then
Enjoyed your thorough and unbiased review of the rifle. I purchased an LWRC IC-SPR last year which has a noticeably higher fit and finish and is capable of .75 groups with match ammo. It comes with the ambidextrous features that you pointed out plus a set of very high quality iron sights. All this at the same price point I feel the Geiseele would be more competitive in the $1500 to $2000 class
I thought lwrc’s were known for not being very accurate. Never owned one but my local shop has them and I almost bought one until I saw a bunch of videos talking about the accuracy. Maybe I’ll just get one and find out
The jam is probably the Superduty recoil spring with the H2 buffer. I had too oil my spring and I noticed it works better with hot loads. Giessllie makes a great rifle but some things are a little overkill on their platforms.
I'm not sure if you're using reman ammo or your hand loads but the geissele super duty barrel is pretty overgassed and the main ways you'd have ejection/stove pipe issues is having a buffer weight that's too heavy, sticky buffer or spring in the buffer tube(not properly lubricated), out of spec bcg, or the unlikely chance of geissele pinning the gas block and not aligning with the gas port properly. As for "ALWAYS USE A 100 YD ZERO" I highly advise against that. It depends what you're using it for. I have the 11.5, 14.5 and 16" SDs. My 11.5 is my bedside AR and chicken protecting coyote killer. That's what I use for the couple acres of property I own and with my treeline I can't make a shot past 75 yards. Although a 100 yard zero is very common it depends on use. My 11.5 is zeroed at 25yds. My 14.5 and 16 are zeroed at 50. It's what we were taught in the service and i know my poa and poi are the same at 50 and 200 yards. Competition guys may use one or the other and a 100 yard zero may be better suited for not being precise up close but being able to make those 300 and 400yd shots. Zeros should be made with the use of the rifle in mind and what you're comfortable with to minimize unnecessary holds
With a 556 platform 50 yard zero is definitely the way to go you’ll be within 6” out to 300 meters . Now the way I sight in my AR10 or high powered rifles is a 100 yard/meter zero and I adjust my scopes mil turrets for the range but then again most people won’t be ever shooting a AR15 past 300 meters and even with a zero at 100 you will be within 11” roughly at 300 meters so if you or just trying to be minute of man you will be fine most likely out to 300 with that setup if you don’t have a magnified optic a shot at 300 meters isn’t going to be much different whatever way you choose to zero haha the redot or front sight post will be way bigger than your target haha.
Reviers often overlook or forget to mention the Geissele Super 42 buffer & spring system, which is amazing. The only buffer spring system I put on any AR I build. 👍
I'm really happy for videos like this, but I feel you could have really cleaned this video up by writing a script. Thanks for sharing your experience with Geissele. We need more videos like this to help the community out. Keep em coming
Hello, I am a sports shooter and I am French living in France. I just received my Geissele automatics super Duty in 14.5 inches. I am a little disappointed because the thickness of the lower is 1.5 millimeters thick, the thickness of an AK 47. Compare to other brands like Daniel defense or Aero precision, or colt it’s very, very thin. It’s a 2023 model. I saw in youtube other Geissele automatics that are thicker. Do you think that the fact that it is very thin can be a robustness problem? 1.5 millimeters is very, very thin. Do you think I made the right choice? Merci beaucoup. Best regards
Only thing I would change, is that stupid buffer & spring. JP Silent capture spring is life. I have put 10 of them in all my rifles. can custom tune based on gas port size, with different springs & weights, and it completely eliminates that cheap toy sound when the rifle cycles. Best upgrade ever. Just runs so much smoother.
The JP system is amazing, and I also swap them into most of my ARs. But the Geissele Super 42 braided spring is not the usual system. There is no spring sound, and the feel is very much like the captured spring systems. They are excellent springs/buffers.
Break in period is not a thing in my opinion. Guns should be shipped ready to go, period. I have the exact rifle with about 250 round through it so far. 0 issues so far. Also, the barrel is not daniel defense it is made by them in PA
i dont believe in break in periods for rifles oil it and run it. if there are issues they wont fix themselves after a certain period of time and amount of shots.
I got one of these, I wanted the full 16 inch instead of a pistol version. Got the Luna black, kind of wishing now I had got the 40 mm green... yeah it looks horrible, but it grows on you! No issue with mine, seems to be gassed properly and is rather accurate. Have not tried it suppressed yet because I use Dead Air.
Nice review! New subscriber here. I have one of the Brownell's exclusive versions on the way. Hope to have some content of it up on my channel as well. Been a fan of Geissele stuff for a long time, they're pricey, but quality.
Stove pipe weird I put just over 2k rounds through mine and I’ve never had a single malfunction. A bunch of different ammo brands both .223/5.56 different grain weights from 55-77 and its eats it all! Good ejection pattern on them as well. Cleaning the bolt is a DREAM that nano weapon coating is pure wizardry. Wipe it down with a paper towel few drops of lube good to go! Lightning bow trigger is an amazing trigger absolute money🔥but it’s a double stage not a single? And u can buy it now! Its no longer exclusive to the super duty line of rifles. Also the barrel is also made by geissele in house cold hammer forged with a “geissele profile” and is chrome lined... also the surefire closed time flash hider, the trigger, and the bolt carrier cam pin and bolt are all nano weapon coated. idk where this guy got his info but it’s literally all on the geissele website LOL but I’m not here to bash the guy, the geissele super duty is an absolutely bomb proof rifle made by an extremely reputable company, love my super duty🇺🇸
The jams were actually caused by a defective buffer. It had fell apart inside the buffer tube. After replacement, the rifle ran perfectly… This rifle had a single stage trigger and not the double stage that was put into production models. You are correct in the barrel
I’m looking at one of these rifles thinking about buying it. I wanted a kac sr15, but can’t find one so might go this route. My confusion is, I don’t know why you don’t hear more about this rifle. Doesn’t seem very popular
I agree with you, and was inline with your thinking. My resistance to making the purchase , lead me to do a little research. When I saw that Spec Ops had purchased the rifles, it eased my worries as to the quality of Geissele Rifles. However, and this is the Big question that you have to aske yourself before you make a big purchase like this; what are you comfortable spending that much money on? You know that answer inside of yourself. Like I compared Formula One cars between all the top make and model of car companies. I think that top shelf rifles have a similar end result. The end result is, Who is your favorite team? Basically, stick with the brand that you love the most. So long as that brand has a military Pedegree
@@williamdeforte3032 I will say, the first thing I noticed on the rifle next to a ddm4v7 was charging it. The bolt is smooth as glass and felt like butter. The dd made screeching noises and didn’t feel or sound as quality
I'm sorry but that's crazy I'm more of a garage guy but I am into rifles I can't stop hearing about Daniel defense and geisely when people talk about quality I'm almost tired of hearing about guys Lee and Daniel defense because of so many other quality rifles out there so sir you must be living under a rock haha all positive feedback speaking of quality take a look at a blackout defense quantum take it easy out there
@@thedude1275 ohh I don’t really want either one of them. I’d much prefer a kac sr15 or LMT. Just the next step under I believe since I can’t find what I want
I just ordered me a Rasco 14.5 and should be coming in any day now. I love the giessele super duty and I plan on putting giessele super parts on my new build with the Rasco barrel. Also if I can add by saying, When zeroing the rifle to 50 yards is ok ,but what is really the best I found out is when zeroing the rifle it should be at 36yards exactly because it will be with in a 6 inch group of shooting at the target from point blank all the way to 400 yards every shot. Try it out, Thats why all the special forces I have seen that are rifle builders zero in at 36yards. Also yes, the AK-47 has no advantage over the Giessele because if you think about it, If there was a dooms day event like Red Dawn or Civil Unrest then the performance of a gas powered 5.56 would be more accurate and the weather conditions, including In America the ar15 is reliable for all the above, "for those who say AK47 are more reliable".
After seeing all the groups on paper, how can you call it "sub moa," when only one of the 5 or so groups was less rhan one inch? In my personal opinion, you need at least 8 or 9 out of ten groups to be less than 1 inch before I will think of it is as a sub moa rifle. All I hear is biased remarks. For instance, making excuses for jams and calling it sun moa when it clearly isn't
I’m looking for a AR15 before they take them away from us that said I love Geissele except that rail looks thicc is it heavy? Also I really like the 13.9 ADM it has so many upgrades including a Geissele trigger Radian charging handle and safety also the BCM mk2 14.5 it only weighs 5.8 pounds and I like the look of it I thought about buying a BCM upper and a ADM lower because of the ambi controls but I don’t know about fit but I love Geissele 14.5 I’m worried about weight you know how heavy they can get with a optic which one do you think would be best thanks?🤯🔫👍🏼
Don’t forget these rifles are lbs lighter already than previous generation ARs like the A2, M4. Way too much emphasis on weight, especially in the civilian market. You going to be hiking 20 miles where weight matters? My Geissle is softer shooting than my BCM, and those few ounces difference are an advantage. Among high quality modern rifles, weight is not a decision criteria in the civilian market unless you’re a small woman.
I bought one in January of this year. The thing that pisses me off about that manufacturer is not only don't they furnish at least a generic set of back up sights but it also came with zero magazines. The gun shop I bought it at was nice enough to throw one in for free. What a bunch of cheap bastards. ( I'm referring to Geissele not the shop)
@@williamdeforte3032 Well. If you compare it to say a DD, you get a better charging handle, way better trigger, better stock (Why TF do they even use those shitty stocks of theirs I have no Idea)and a Surefire muzzle device, even PnW for the 14.5" At that price point (you can get these for 16-1700), the features are better than the DD. DD has a bit longer track record, but spec wise (technically) its a wash, and feature wise the Geissele trumps it. To upgrade a V7 with a good CH, Geissele trigger, B5 SOPMOD or nice Vlotor stock and a Surefire MD you will be in 2k+. Iron sights, That be nice but a majority of manufacturers dont offer it without an upcharge so its unfair to ding them on that. Magazine, yeah fair ding. Yes can be had for 10-13 bucks but you NEED that for the rifle to function so it should be included and that is included with most manufacturers. So for value, its excellent. Just my thoughts.
@@keiths5931 DD now ships their guns with a charging handle that is very competitive with the G airborne. Good enough to not waste money switching to an airborne.
Let’s face it…with the LPVO/micro red dot combination dominating in 2- and 3-gun matches these days, a lot of folks who can afford this rifle are just gonna ditch BUIS (even if it came with them) to save weight. I don’t blame Geissele for not including those. The lack of a magazine is a definite annoyance, though (but it's defendable: with so many states nowadays that have magazine capacity restrictions, not including a mag makes it easier for them to ship the gun widely).
Thank you for your service, and for this video. What’s your favorite AR/brand? Would you say you have a 10/10 rifle that’s complete out of the box? Nm I saw the rest of the video and I’m garnering that LWRC is possibly your top.
I know you didn't ask me for my opinion but your choice in AR15s is top notch right now. ADM, LWRC, PWS, Type A, Radian, Geissele are really awesome out of the box rifles that imo, don't need anything but a weapon light, whatever laser, optic choice and suppressor mount you're using if your mission dictates such. I've handled a KAC and they're way overpriced but probably the most reliable AR15 I've shot. I own PWS, ADM and Geissele and it's hard to chose one. I like the lowers on PWS and ADM better but it's because of the ambidextrous bolt catches on them. The only one I've mentioned that I don't have time behind is the Type A but I trust my friends opinion on it. BCM, SOLGW and Colt are overrated imo. Daniel Defense lays right between the tier of BCM and ADM. You really have a lot of choice of great out of the box AR15s right now.
@@williamdeforte3032 It's not pinned to make it 16". The barrel alone is 16". The rail you have is a 15". Therefore, if it was a 14.5" pinned, then part of the muzzle device would be inside the rail.
@@williamdeforte3032 It's stamped 14.5 on the rifle? The way I can tell it's a 16" is by counting the mlok slots on the rail. 8 slots on the side is 16" rifle. 7 slots means it's a 14.5"
It was a feeding issue, not a stove pipe, you can clearly see the round extracted properly. The dented case was probably from a double feed, as the bolt didn't close all the way (you can tell because of how quiet the click was), it's likely a bad mag. Sometimes the Lipps on them pmags loosen up(or crack). This guy's terminology is all over the place, what is he even saying?!
Yes that is true… But at the time, the rifle that was provided to me I had a Daniel Defense barrel and a single stage trigger for some reason. The production models ended up having that double stage trigger
Lol I didn’t mean to come across as like a Mercedes more than BMW. What I was attempting to compare were all of the Formula One cars that the companies make. They all make a top grade Formula One car they can compete amongst each other and I think that top grade rifles are very similar in that fashion. And choosing them is kind of like supporting your favorite Formula One team. I think they are all pretty fantastic but we all like what we like… and by the way, when it comes to Formula One, I’m a Ferrari fan…😂😂
What isn't overkill is a rifle "review" that attempts to instruct guys who would be potential buyers for a $2k AR in proper zeroing technique... All performed from a bench rest on a flat range... Okay... I'm a go 3/10 on this "review" bro
Thanks bro… I would have given a 1/10…🤷🏻. Good to know that showing that this rifle can shoot under an inch from the bench isn’t valuable information…🥴
@@lancerichardson63 yes I seen, but he didn't go into detail on whos gasblock they use. Ive been running the Super Duty now. Have about 2000 round threw it and find myself reaching for the SD then the 11.5 BCM
Any thoughts on the black oxide barrel? Seems slot of people have been very upset at G for switching up their barrel finish. I just ordered a super duty 14.5 and just wondering what you think about it.
Thanks for sharing. I’ll offer a correction regarding the barrels which are actually Geisselle in-house produced cold hammer forged.. I remember when they brought in the forge to their factory. The copy I’ve got time on was good to go, my top recommendation 👍
I'd heard about geissele triggers being really solid before I got personally into firearms, I'd also heard their URGI is a fantastic system. Come to do my research and found they do everything for ARs, and knowing what I know about cars/motorcycles I figured buying everything from a single company is probably the way to go. Bought a 16" Duty Upper (identical to super duty except CMV non-CHF barrel, and super duty being identical to the URGI except for Geissele Length gas system not carbine length), super duty lower + parts, SSA-E trigger, B5 stock and plopped a Vortex Strike Eagle 1-8FFP on there and boy golly is it a joy to shoot. I'm no marksman by any means and its not very impressive but piping 300yd silouhettes was effortless. 1.5MOA groups with it, me obviously being the weak link, its just crazy how easy it is to shoot given its my first firearm ever.
1.5 MOA groups isn't impressive.
@@jimklemens5018 Im not an impressive shot. just like i said above.
These barrels are made by Geissele and they are cold hammer-forged chrome-lined barrels only the outside of the barrel is nitrate coated instead of phosphate.
I just picked up my Super duty yesterday in the DDC color. Haven’t gotten to the range yet but I must say the fit and finish is top notch and the colors are superb. Also glad I found a price that was too good to pass up! Thanks for the review
Where did you end up finding a great price? I am torn between DDC but it is a big jump from their black color
@@jereck2392 I religiously looked on multiple websites for months and stumbled on gunbroker on a listing for that color that was way below everyone else. Looked and it was a gun shop 30 min away from Geissele in Pennsylvania!
Let us know what you think. I’m picking up a 40mm green w/ 16” barrel today, I found one that has a nitrided barrel, personal preference thing. Dropped a little coin on the rifle but hey, buy once cry once right ?
I have a green super duty but I want a FDE one too.
For whatever reasons, not so many reviews on the Super Duty series. It happens that I just bought one and saw your video right after. Your review is valuable for sure, thank you~!
I have the ddm4v7 16” and the geissele super duty 14.5”. I personally prefer the geissele. It’s got magic in it. The Daniel is amazing but the geissele is amazing
I have to agree with the trigger description. I just bought my first Geissele trigger about a month ago. The hype is real! They know triggers! I will be buying Geissele triggers for the rest of my builds. I love the full power springs. I got sick of the light primer strikes.
The one he’s shooting is even better than the ones you can buy
SSA-E all the way !
I’m not hung up on Geissele’s reliability but what I am hung on is this thing weighs a ton so I’m told I shot a old M16 the other day and I was blown away with how light it was so I might be a little biased!🧠🤯🔫
Fantastic review Sir, your enthusiasm with the Geissele rifles performance says it all! Well done Sir, thank you for sharing.
I can't sing thise rifle's praises enough,! The geissele super duty is accurate, soft shooting, trigger is phenomenal, reliable, and runs whatever I put in it. I would be willing to bet that jam was a fluke too because I have another rifle with reliability similar to the super duty and it malfunctioned 1 time around the 7/800 round count and hasn't done it again out of several hundred rounds since then
Enjoyed your thorough and unbiased review of the rifle. I purchased an LWRC IC-SPR last year which has a noticeably higher fit and finish and is capable of .75 groups with match ammo. It comes with the ambidextrous features that you pointed out plus a set of very high quality iron sights. All this at the same price point I feel the Geiseele would be more competitive in the $1500 to $2000 class
I agree with your assessment completely
Yip
I thought lwrc’s were known for not being very accurate. Never owned one but my local shop has them and I almost bought one until I saw a bunch of videos talking about the accuracy. Maybe I’ll just get one and find out
@@Ben-lo7cy imo lwrc are accurate quality built and beautiful rifles. In my top 5.
@@Ben-lo7cy Their .45 sub gun has a reputation for poor accuracy. Their 5.56 rifles are excellent.
The jam is probably the Superduty recoil spring with the H2 buffer. I had too oil my spring and I noticed it works better with hot loads. Giessllie makes a great rifle but some things are a little overkill on their platforms.
Actually what caused the jam was the buffer. It fell apart inside. No roll pin. They quickly replaced it
My super duty has yet to malfunction out of at least 2k rounds through it and I have run everything from tula to Hornady match. Great rifle.
Very nice! I think I like my superduty more than my Geissele URGI.
I liked the rifle
I'm not sure if you're using reman ammo or your hand loads but the geissele super duty barrel is pretty overgassed and the main ways you'd have ejection/stove pipe issues is having a buffer weight that's too heavy, sticky buffer or spring in the buffer tube(not properly lubricated), out of spec bcg, or the unlikely chance of geissele pinning the gas block and not aligning with the gas port properly.
As for "ALWAYS USE A 100 YD ZERO" I highly advise against that. It depends what you're using it for. I have the 11.5, 14.5 and 16" SDs. My 11.5 is my bedside AR and chicken protecting coyote killer. That's what I use for the couple acres of property I own and with my treeline I can't make a shot past 75 yards. Although a 100 yard zero is very common it depends on use. My 11.5 is zeroed at 25yds. My 14.5 and 16 are zeroed at 50. It's what we were taught in the service and i know my poa and poi are the same at 50 and 200 yards. Competition guys may use one or the other and a 100 yard zero may be better suited for not being precise up close but being able to make those 300 and 400yd shots. Zeros should be made with the use of the rifle in mind and what you're comfortable with to minimize unnecessary holds
With a 556 platform 50 yard zero is definitely the way to go you’ll be within 6” out to 300 meters .
Now the way I sight in my AR10 or high powered rifles is a 100 yard/meter zero and I adjust my scopes mil turrets for the range but then again most people won’t be ever shooting a AR15 past 300 meters and even with a zero at 100 you will be within 11” roughly at 300 meters so if you or just trying to be minute of man you will be fine most likely out to 300 with that setup if you don’t have a magnified optic a shot at 300 meters isn’t going to be much different whatever way you choose to zero haha the redot or front sight post will be way bigger than your target haha.
Reviers often overlook or forget to mention the Geissele Super 42 buffer & spring system, which is amazing. The only buffer spring system I put on any AR I build. 👍
I agree. I forgot to mention thst
Starting to feel like a sausage measuring contest with the AR15 builds
I agree… so many AR platforms these days
I'm really happy for videos like this, but I feel you could have really cleaned this video up by writing a script. Thanks for sharing your experience with Geissele. We need more videos like this to help the community out. Keep em coming
Hello,
I am a sports shooter and I am French living in France.
I just received my Geissele automatics super Duty in 14.5 inches.
I am a little disappointed because the thickness of the lower is 1.5 millimeters thick, the thickness of an AK 47.
Compare to other brands like Daniel defense or Aero precision, or colt it’s very, very thin. It’s a 2023 model.
I saw in youtube other Geissele automatics that are thicker.
Do you think that the fact that it is very thin can be a robustness problem? 1.5 millimeters is very, very thin.
Do you think I made the right choice?
Merci beaucoup.
Best regards
I called them and was told the barrel are made in-house at Geissele.
Yes you are correct.
Geissele is the best trigger in the game....yeah we know William!! : )
Only thing I would change, is that stupid buffer & spring. JP Silent capture spring is life. I have put 10 of them in all my rifles. can custom tune based on gas port size, with different springs & weights, and it completely eliminates that cheap toy sound when the rifle cycles. Best upgrade ever. Just runs so much smoother.
The JP system is amazing, and I also swap them into most of my ARs. But the Geissele Super 42 braided spring is not the usual system. There is no spring sound, and the feel is very much like the captured spring systems. They are excellent springs/buffers.
The only thing that I think sucks about it is the grip, but that’s a $20 fix.
Newer ones fixed that becauee you're right, the grip and angle were terrible
That is an impressive rifle. Thank you.
Mine stacks rounds in same hole or 1/8” moa and has been nothing but perfection functionality wise now I own a 10.3 urgi also
I think that they have a promising future
Just found your channel and subscribed
Just subscribed... great video. Simple and very informative. 👌
Thank you
Geissele manufacturers their own barrels.
Yes they do now; you are correct. I should have corrected that in the video
Yea I was going to say that. With there own profile.. I wouldn't mind a DD barrel
@@bestjobieverhad9584 I’ll tell you what; the barrel on this rifle was pretty darn accurate
I love my Geissele
That makes the two of us. Great shooter
Good review hope to see more✊
Break in period is not a thing in my opinion. Guns should be shipped ready to go, period. I have the exact rifle with about 250 round through it so far. 0 issues so far. Also, the barrel is not daniel defense it is made by them in PA
i dont believe in break in periods for rifles oil it and run it. if there are issues they wont fix themselves after a certain period of time and amount of shots.
Spot on review ! Seriously
Thank you
@@williamdeforte3032 Your entirely welcome !
The super duty does have a chrome lined barrel.
The barrels are CHF, chrome lined, and Nitrited.
Love mine
I need!!
I got one of these, I wanted the full 16 inch instead of a pistol version. Got the Luna black, kind of wishing now I had got the 40 mm green... yeah it looks horrible, but it grows on you! No issue with mine, seems to be gassed properly and is rather accurate. Have not tried it suppressed yet because I use Dead Air.
I like the green as well. In a world of black, the green stands out
I have an 11.5” super duty in 40mm green, it’s so sick. I love Luna black too, has a cool slight gloss, really looks nice. Might grab a Luna 14,5”
Is it heavy that rail scares me making it front heavy and I really like the ADM 13.9 there about the same price?🤯🔫🧨
Nice review! New subscriber here. I have one of the Brownell's exclusive versions on the way. Hope to have some content of it up on my channel as well. Been a fan of Geissele stuff for a long time, they're pricey, but quality.
I think that they are on the right track
Stove pipe weird I put just over 2k rounds through mine and I’ve never had a single malfunction. A bunch of different ammo brands both .223/5.56 different grain weights from 55-77 and its eats it all! Good ejection pattern on them as well. Cleaning the bolt is a DREAM that nano weapon coating is pure wizardry. Wipe it down with a paper towel few drops of lube good to go! Lightning bow trigger is an amazing trigger absolute money🔥but it’s a double stage not a single? And u can buy it now! Its no longer exclusive to the super duty line of rifles. Also the barrel is also made by geissele in house cold hammer forged with a “geissele profile” and is chrome lined... also the surefire closed time flash hider, the trigger, and the bolt carrier cam pin and bolt are all nano weapon coated. idk where this guy got his info but it’s literally all on the geissele website LOL but I’m not here to bash the guy, the geissele super duty is an absolutely bomb proof rifle made by an extremely reputable company, love my super duty🇺🇸
The jams were actually caused by a defective buffer. It had fell apart inside the buffer tube. After replacement, the rifle ran perfectly…
This rifle had a single stage trigger and not the double stage that was put into production models.
You are correct in the barrel
Awesome !!!!!!!
I’m looking at one of these rifles thinking about buying it. I wanted a kac sr15, but can’t find one so might go this route. My confusion is, I don’t know why you don’t hear more about this rifle. Doesn’t seem very popular
I agree with you, and was inline with your thinking. My resistance to making the purchase , lead me to do a little research. When I saw that Spec Ops had purchased the rifles, it eased my worries as to the quality of Geissele Rifles. However, and this is the Big question that you have to aske yourself before you make a big purchase like this; what are you comfortable spending that much money on? You know that answer inside of yourself. Like I compared Formula One cars between all the top make and model of car companies. I think that top shelf rifles have a similar end result. The end result is, Who is your favorite team? Basically, stick with the brand that you love the most. So long as that brand has a military Pedegree
@@williamdeforte3032 I will say, the first thing I noticed on the rifle next to a ddm4v7 was charging it. The bolt is smooth as glass and felt like butter. The dd made screeching noises and didn’t feel or sound as quality
I'm sorry but that's crazy I'm more of a garage guy but I am into rifles I can't stop hearing about Daniel defense and geisely when people talk about quality I'm almost tired of hearing about guys Lee and Daniel defense because of so many other quality rifles out there so sir you must be living under a rock haha all positive feedback speaking of quality take a look at a blackout defense quantum take it easy out there
@@thedude1275 ohh I don’t really want either one of them. I’d much prefer a kac sr15 or LMT. Just the next step under I believe since I can’t find what I want
@@hurt1704 right on 🤘🏽
I just ordered me a Rasco 14.5 and should be coming in any day now. I love the giessele super duty and I plan on putting giessele super parts on my new build with the Rasco barrel. Also if I can add by saying, When zeroing the rifle to 50 yards is ok ,but what is really the best I found out is when zeroing the rifle it should be at 36yards exactly because it will be with in a 6 inch group of shooting at the target from point blank all the way to 400 yards every shot. Try it out, Thats why all the special forces I have seen that are rifle builders zero in at 36yards. Also yes, the AK-47 has no advantage over the Giessele because if you think about it, If there was a dooms day event like Red Dawn or Civil Unrest then the performance of a gas powered 5.56 would be more accurate and the weather conditions, including In America the ar15 is reliable for all the above, "for those who say AK47 are more reliable".
After seeing all the groups on paper, how can you call it "sub moa," when only one of the 5 or so groups was less rhan one inch? In my personal opinion, you need at least 8 or 9 out of ten groups to be less than 1 inch before I will think of it is as a sub moa rifle. All I hear is biased remarks. For instance, making excuses for jams and calling it sun moa when it clearly isn't
I’m looking for a AR15 before they take them away from us that said I love Geissele except that rail looks thicc is it heavy? Also I really like the 13.9 ADM it has so many upgrades including a Geissele trigger Radian charging handle and safety also the BCM mk2 14.5 it only weighs 5.8 pounds and I like the look of it I thought about buying a BCM upper and a ADM lower because of the ambi controls but I don’t know about fit but I love Geissele 14.5 I’m worried about weight you know how heavy they can get with a optic which one do you think would be best thanks?🤯🔫👍🏼
Don’t forget these rifles are lbs lighter already than previous generation ARs like the A2, M4. Way too much emphasis on weight, especially in the civilian market. You going to be hiking 20 miles where weight matters? My Geissle is softer shooting than my BCM, and those few ounces difference are an advantage. Among high quality modern rifles, weight is not a decision criteria in the civilian market unless you’re a small woman.
Love it. “I give it a 9 out 10”…jam hahahaha. Edit Button and start over.
I just didn’t want to hide that jam from anybody. Lol. It was the buffer. It fell apart because there was no roll pin holding The assembly together…
Does come with the warcomp with the holes in it?
According to geissle ,they make their own barrels
They do now. You are correct.
It’s always the magazine that jams a rifle😂
I bought one in January of this year. The thing that pisses me off about that manufacturer is not only don't they furnish at least a generic set of back up sights but it also came with zero magazines. The gun shop I bought it at was nice enough to throw one in for free. What a bunch of cheap bastards. ( I'm referring to Geissele not the shop)
Yeah, the magazine bothered me a little too. Especially at the price point.
@@williamdeforte3032 Well. If you compare it to say a DD, you get a better charging handle, way better trigger, better stock (Why TF do they even use those shitty stocks of theirs I have no Idea)and a Surefire muzzle device, even PnW for the 14.5" At that price point (you can get these for 16-1700), the features are better than the DD. DD has a bit longer track record, but spec wise (technically) its a wash, and feature wise the Geissele trumps it. To upgrade a V7 with a good CH, Geissele trigger, B5 SOPMOD or nice Vlotor stock and a Surefire MD you will be in 2k+. Iron sights, That be nice but a majority of manufacturers dont offer it without an upcharge so its unfair to ding them on that. Magazine, yeah fair ding. Yes can be had for 10-13 bucks but you NEED that for the rifle to function so it should be included and that is included with most manufacturers. So for value, its excellent. Just my thoughts.
@@keiths5931 DD now ships their guns with a charging handle that is very competitive with the G airborne. Good enough to not waste money switching to an airborne.
Let’s face it…with the LPVO/micro red dot combination dominating in 2- and 3-gun matches these days, a lot of folks who can afford this rifle are just gonna ditch BUIS (even if it came with them) to save weight. I don’t blame Geissele for not including those. The lack of a magazine is a definite annoyance, though (but it's defendable: with so many states nowadays that have magazine capacity restrictions, not including a mag makes it easier for them to ship the gun widely).
@@revvyishonisd5027 Only if its one of their rifles in the "PRO" series , my regular DDM4V7 came with a milspec charging handle
Has your opinion changed now that it’s been a few months later? I’m torn between this rifle and the Daniel Defense M4a1 14.5.
I have both. The Geissele shines shooting suppressed, which is important to me, but both are amazing.
Thank you for your service, and for this video. What’s your favorite AR/brand? Would you say you have a 10/10 rifle that’s complete out of the box? Nm I saw the rest of the video and I’m garnering that LWRC is possibly your top.
I know you didn't ask me for my opinion but your choice in AR15s is top notch right now. ADM, LWRC, PWS, Type A, Radian, Geissele are really awesome out of the box rifles that imo, don't need anything but a weapon light, whatever laser, optic choice and suppressor mount you're using if your mission dictates such.
I've handled a KAC and they're way overpriced but probably the most reliable AR15 I've shot. I own PWS, ADM and Geissele and it's hard to chose one. I like the lowers on PWS and ADM better but it's because of the ambidextrous bolt catches on them. The only one I've mentioned that I don't have time behind is the Type A but I trust my friends opinion on it.
BCM, SOLGW and Colt are overrated imo. Daniel Defense lays right between the tier of BCM and ADM. You really have a lot of choice of great out of the box AR15s right now.
14 has 7 cut-out slots the 16 has 8, this is the 16.
That's a 16 inch. Not a 14.5
It’s pinned to 16”
@@williamdeforte3032 It's not pinned to make it 16". The barrel alone is 16". The rail you have is a 15". Therefore, if it was a 14.5" pinned, then part of the muzzle device would be inside the rail.
@@RockerMat91 That is how it is stamped so if you are correct then all of the identifiers are wrong on the rifle
@@williamdeforte3032 It's stamped 14.5 on the rifle? The way I can tell it's a 16" is by counting the mlok slots on the rail. 8 slots on the side is 16" rifle. 7 slots means it's a 14.5"
@@RockerMat91 it was a blem. So maybe you are correct. I’ll measure and find out
It was a feeding issue, not a stove pipe, you can clearly see the round extracted properly. The dented case was probably from a double feed, as the bolt didn't close all the way (you can tell because of how quiet the click was), it's likely a bad mag. Sometimes the Lipps on them pmags loosen up(or crack).
This guy's terminology is all over the place, what is he even saying?!
Actually you are correct and incorrect as I was when I made the video. It ended up being a faulty buffer. It had fell apart inside the buffer tube.
Thanks, subbed
one minute intro? NEXT.
Hi will
Hello Iyar🙋♂️
What's going on with your pistol, guy? lol
super doody
It’s the airsoft red dot and the 2 year long intro for me
Not daniel defense barrel any more
Yes that is true… But at the time, the rifle that was provided to me I had a Daniel Defense barrel and a single stage trigger for some reason. The production models ended up having that double stage trigger
The whole video was epic until you said mercedes better than bmw
Lol I didn’t mean to come across as like a Mercedes more than BMW. What I was attempting to compare were all of the Formula One cars that the companies make. They all make a top grade Formula One car they can compete amongst each other and I think that top grade rifles are very similar in that fashion. And choosing them is kind of like supporting your favorite Formula One team. I think they are all pretty fantastic but we all like what we like… and by the way, when it comes to Formula One, I’m a Ferrari fan…😂😂
Intro's way too long
100 yard zero for an ar? 😂
What’s wrong with 100, my AK74 is at 100, perfect cqb in my opinion
What isn't overkill is a rifle "review" that attempts to instruct guys who would be potential buyers for a $2k AR in proper zeroing technique... All performed from a bench rest on a flat range... Okay... I'm a go 3/10 on this "review" bro
Thanks bro… I would have given a 1/10…🤷🏻. Good to know that showing that this rifle can shoot under an inch from the bench isn’t valuable information…🥴
URGI uppers....
I have never used the upper. Have you? I’m curious and would like to see one
Garand thumb has a video specifically about URGI
@@lancerichardson63 yes I seen, but he didn't go into detail on whos gasblock they use. Ive been running the Super Duty now. Have about 2000 round threw it and find myself reaching for the SD then the 11.5 BCM
Any thoughts on the black oxide barrel? Seems slot of people have been very upset at G for switching up their barrel finish. I just ordered a super duty 14.5 and just wondering what you think about it.
I was impressed with the accuracy. I believe this finish provided for a more accurate barrel over chrome lined…