CA has some dude sitting in a dark room, nibbling on little pieces of cheese that have been strangely dyed green, as well as being able to glow, thinking up permutations of units that when combined, will finally be able to destroy the Great Cheese. Every day this poor rat, I mean, human, yes-yes, bashes his paws, sorry hands, against the machine in front of him. He nibbles that delicious cheese again, wondering why his belly is starting to ache. Yes-yes. I have it, he thinks. Tomorrow will be my day-day. He slinks back into a corner, totally not stepping on his humanoid tail. The Great Cheese will fall, and it will by the knowledge of the Grey Seers, I mean, Grey matter, yes-yes...
The Player, not being able to win the battle at all Legend, trying to give the army back at full strengh, just as if he deleted the enemy armies via console command You really deserve the name, legend.
For anyone wondering, the AI can make doomstacks when they only have 1 type of production building left. If all they can make is Gyrocopters, that is what they will fill their armies with.
I enjoy watching Legend cheese his way to victory but I'd never have fun playing these modern Total War titles. The whole bit where you don't engage the bulk of your force and use the lords to tank armies would be utterly unsatisfying to play.
@@righteousham There's no reason you have to play like that. Even in this sort of battle. You could totally win this battle doing a lot more hit and run with the hunter, gorgers, mournfang cavalry, and stonehorn. Those units all excel at wiping out infantry like dwarfs. But doing so would have meant those units taking more damage and some casualties, which Legend tries to avoid even if they are minimal.
Legendary Lords are like Neo vs ordinary security guards. But it's true Three Kingdoms has Records Mode for more ordinary lords. Warhammer is all about the superhuman legendaries though, 40k even more so.😊
@@righteousham you don’t have to do that. You can just fight the battle normally, he’s just min maxing the game so he returns the save file in the best possible condition.
I don't see the point of Sabretusk Packs after Blood Vultures became a thing. For the same cost they perform the same role and get the same buffs off the Hunter, except they're faster, they get more powerful the longer a battle goes on, and guess what? If the AI does this to you, you have an answer.
I find they just take too much dmg and in AR they get stomped obviously its not a great concern but them in your army means your better units take more dmg in AR as well but that said in terms of sabre tusk comparison its probably equal. leadbelchers deal with gyrocoptors really really really well. Death magic being available now too fate of Bjuna with ogres new unlimited magic pool from meat offering too is also another weapon in the arsenal
Sabretusks can get perfect vigor and bonus vs large from a hunter while blood vultures cannot, and once you get rid of the rampage, I’d say they actually perform better than blood vultures. Also, 3 or 4 blood vultures would not have made a difference going up against 19 gyrocopters.😂
I always have at least a handful Leadbelchers in my armies, they are too good a unit not to include. Alternatively, multiple Hunters, if available, at higher tier, the Maneaters with Ogre Pistols are an excellent unit IMO as they are better in melee than the Leadbelchers. Combining Leadbelchers and Maneater Pistoleers might get some interesting results, i have yet to try that though.
@@MDMDMDMDMDMDMDMDMD slaanesh has no flying units and no ranged units, no way to deal with big airforce (its the only race lacking 2 main elements in the game without compensating)
I’ve got a lot of fun with Tamurkhan in the classic way to paint the map and bully everyone. Now am in Golg campaign and it’s pretty fun playing king maker. But if u try Golgf*g, I advise you make your own constraints cuz he is fkn broken too strong, too easy to get gold, too easy to get meat, it snowballs really fast… So to paint the map it’s a bit too much just a formality I think. But if you try to truly play the mercenary, pick a side or a specific faction or race and try to make them thrives instead of you it’s really fun honestly. Cuz you have to adapt to the AI you support and the events, not just bully everything in all directions. It changes from the usual painting the map stuff, and i really liked that. Hope u will as well :)
@@Kilen_BETamarkhan was fun but ik they nerfed him since I last played him so not gonna dive into anytime soon. Golg is a good option though, seems super unique
And if anyone doesn't know Nemesis Crown yer, it's like a smaller Sword of Khaine that moves around, usually Reikland and neighbors. First you have to find it beat the mobs guarding it. Beat them and you claim it it for some nice ward save, a replenishing area explosion, and some other bonuses. At the price of some diplomatic penalties. Every few victories increases its thirst, intensifying its power and penalties. Or you can bury it for some gold rewards, it moves and the cycle restarts. The Sims icon serves as your fair warning that this unit has that ward save, bonuses and that explosion attack. Oh, and if you beat someone that has it, you can take it.
I ran into this problem in early Arbaal campaign. Malakai came at me with tons of gyros and I didn't have the furies to handle it, just a bunch of ground melee that couldn't do sh!t
Would the Heaven magic be able to hurt the gyros? Seems like if they stop to shoot you might be able to land a lightning bolt or comet of cassadora on them right? Or is it JUST the explosion on the ground that does damage?
Kinda crazy that an army can get wiped out never setting foot on the battlefield, shouldn't count as its second battle if it never even shows up... It's mostly something for the player to exploit but still.
Always found it odd that killing Army 1 before Army 2 can show up, then choosing to end the battle instead of waiting for Army 2 counts as a loss for Army 2. Some spaghetti coding I guess
I'm sad that you never cast "The Maw" and only cast "Bonecrusher" as your damage spell. It costs the same WoM because of Skragg's unique line and there was some serious blobbing at the start. You also have effectively infinite WoM thanks to "Bone to Pot" and "Extra ingredients" and ended the battle with loads of winds.
Was there any reason, the second mage got ignored completly? I think it had chain lightning and the flying ones clumped pretty much, and WoM didn't seem to be any problem at all
Hey did you know the nemesis crown ability can hit flyers with the shrapnel? Discovered this by accident once. takes some practiced timing but can wipe half unit with one good connection.
I once played Kroq-gar and I've beeten thorek and he had only one army left, in that army he had a gyrocopter with the unbreaking rune put on it, so he attacked my starting settlement, and i only had like 2 javelin skinks. I took out his army but then those fing copters
Happy new year everyone! I like how my battle from legend video on The Morbidly Mobility Challenged Battle video influenced other battles and videos of Legend's videos
post launch I E tww3 was really a sandbox ez spam melee infantry and conquer the map. but Dwarf dlc(mainly but ofc ai was buffed in general) really put a stop to that, you cant excpect to make trash armies and breeze past turn50
I would have actually charged in immediately. Obviously, this army’s a bit of a dog’s breakfast, but you have about 4 or 8 gorgers (with the summons), and several other good units, with Skrag who can heal them. 3 mins was honestly plenty of time to smash those Dawi.
Legend please check your subscriptions, in case the AI was stupid enough and subscribed to you under the nickname TotalWarWhIIIAI or something like that - and ban him!!! I don't want to play against THIS!!!
The AI out-doomstack-ed Legend, but couldn't out cheese him.
In Cheese we trust.
🧀🧀🧀
come to think of it, this game would be unplayable at higher difficulties without cheese
I wouldn't say kiting is cheese. The Mongols were pretty famous for it and they conquered half the known world with it at the time.
@@TheYannir yeah, they cheesed it
Fat ogres ran around a mountain side screaming as dwarves in mobility scooters chased them. Peak fiction.
Sounds like something from "modern" D&D
@@Aethgeir does it make you joyful to point these out? Woodworks, honestly.
Average Walmart experience
AI: Surrender Legend I have the better Stack!
Legend: You underestimate my Cheese!
CA has some dude sitting in a dark room, nibbling on little pieces of cheese that have been strangely dyed green, as well as being able to glow, thinking up permutations of units that when combined, will finally be able to destroy the Great Cheese. Every day this poor rat, I mean, human, yes-yes, bashes his paws, sorry hands, against the machine in front of him. He nibbles that delicious cheese again, wondering why his belly is starting to ache. Yes-yes. I have it, he thinks. Tomorrow will be my day-day. He slinks back into a corner, totally not stepping on his humanoid tail. The Great Cheese will fall, and it will by the knowledge of the Grey Seers, I mean, Grey matter, yes-yes...
So it's Skaven vs Skaven warfare at it's worst
Maybe CA uses a LegendGPT AI to learn from your play ? ^^
No! Nooooo! True Legendary difficulty is having to defeat LoT trained AI.
The Player, not being able to win the battle at all
Legend, trying to give the army back at full strengh, just as if he deleted the enemy armies via console command
You really deserve the name, legend.
Role Reversal.
For anyone wondering, the AI can make doomstacks when they only have 1 type of production building left. If all they can make is Gyrocopters, that is what they will fill their armies with.
Thx!
Now I know how to have fun in this game
The way that Lords can just dive into entire armies is so bizarre.
I enjoy watching Legend cheese his way to victory but I'd never have fun playing these modern Total War titles. The whole bit where you don't engage the bulk of your force and use the lords to tank armies would be utterly unsatisfying to play.
@@righteoushamAI mow mostly ignores your characters if there are other better targets
@@righteousham There's no reason you have to play like that. Even in this sort of battle. You could totally win this battle doing a lot more hit and run with the hunter, gorgers, mournfang cavalry, and stonehorn. Those units all excel at wiping out infantry like dwarfs. But doing so would have meant those units taking more damage and some casualties, which Legend tries to avoid even if they are minimal.
Legendary Lords are like Neo vs ordinary security guards. But it's true Three Kingdoms has Records Mode for more ordinary lords. Warhammer is all about the superhuman legendaries though, 40k even more so.😊
@@righteousham you don’t have to do that. You can just fight the battle normally, he’s just min maxing the game so he returns the save file in the best possible condition.
I don't see the point of Sabretusk Packs after Blood Vultures became a thing. For the same cost they perform the same role and get the same buffs off the Hunter, except they're faster, they get more powerful the longer a battle goes on, and guess what? If the AI does this to you, you have an answer.
I find they just take too much dmg and in AR they get stomped obviously its not a great concern but them in your army means your better units take more dmg in AR as well but that said in terms of sabre tusk comparison its probably equal. leadbelchers deal with gyrocoptors really really really well. Death magic being available now too fate of Bjuna with ogres new unlimited magic pool from meat offering too is also another weapon in the arsenal
Do their death casters also get the active ability that restores winds?
@@MrParadux it's for the army
Sabretusks can get perfect vigor and bonus vs large from a hunter while blood vultures cannot, and once you get rid of the rampage, I’d say they actually perform better than blood vultures. Also, 3 or 4 blood vultures would not have made a difference going up against 19 gyrocopters.😂
Legend saving winds of magic for Total War Warhammer 4
I have Faced Kislev armies full of Elemental Bears and Elemental of Beasts...and Frost Wyrm doomstacks. AI control
Have an amazing and positive new year ladies and gentlemen
You too!
Happy new year from across the ditch legend. I love your videos and content never give it up 😁
I once had to abandon a High Elf campaign because the ai created a Necrofex Colossus doomstack, that I didn't know how to counter at the time.
Ironically swarms of archers is the answer. You would just need ALOT.
Your videos always amaze me lmao
ngl, after you upgrade your PC, i notice the quality of the videos image in battle is so nice, like at 29:00. That is a really nice view not gonna lie
I was thinking the whole time, " everything looks so crisp and smooth, new PC got fixed?"
Ok, that was an impressive battle. I would have just written the army off as dead. Nice Work.
Khorne does not care from where the cheese flows
* Khurde, Khorne's lactose little brother.
I always have at least a handful Leadbelchers in my armies, they are too good a unit not to include.
Alternatively, multiple Hunters, if available, at higher tier, the Maneaters with Ogre Pistols are an excellent unit IMO as they are better in melee than the Leadbelchers.
Combining Leadbelchers and Maneater Pistoleers might get some interesting results, i have yet to try that though.
welcome to slaanesh situation
I don't get it
@@MDMDMDMDMDMDMDMDMD slaanesh has no flying units and no ranged units, no way to deal with big airforce (its the only race lacking 2 main elements in the game without compensating)
The AI is starting to do doomstacks, i just saw a steam tank doomstack 💀
Yeah, late game is getting rough. No more fluffy armies. Gonna have to doomstack myself more.
This one was mine and idk how this man does it.
You have a really nice save file now. I would have restarted from an earlier save tbh.
Question to whoever reads this, what campaign should I start, recently finished a Skulltaker campaign and am almost done with an Elspeth, any ideas?
Try Malakai, incredibly fun campaign
I’ve got a lot of fun with Tamurkhan in the classic way to paint the map and bully everyone.
Now am in Golg campaign and it’s pretty fun playing king maker.
But if u try Golgf*g, I advise you make your own constraints cuz he is fkn broken too strong, too easy to get gold, too easy to get meat, it snowballs really fast…
So to paint the map it’s a bit too much just a formality I think.
But if you try to truly play the mercenary, pick a side or a specific faction or race and try to make them thrives instead of you it’s really fun honestly. Cuz you have to adapt to the AI you support and the events, not just bully everything in all directions.
It changes from the usual painting the map stuff, and i really liked that.
Hope u will as well :)
Throt the unclean is really fun
@@joshuanowlin443He’s my most played campaign, love him
@@Kilen_BETamarkhan was fun but ik they nerfed him since I last played him so not gonna dive into anytime soon. Golg is a good option though, seems super unique
Great video! Why is there a ''Sims'' Icon above the Disciples of the Maw army on the campaign map?
That denotes the owner of the Nemesis Crown.
And if anyone doesn't know Nemesis Crown yer, it's like a smaller Sword of Khaine that moves around, usually Reikland and neighbors. First you have to find it beat the mobs guarding it. Beat them and you claim it it for some nice ward save, a replenishing area explosion, and some other bonuses. At the price of some diplomatic penalties. Every few victories increases its thirst, intensifying its power and penalties. Or you can bury it for some gold rewards, it moves and the cycle restarts.
The Sims icon serves as your fair warning that this unit has that ward save, bonuses and that explosion attack. Oh, and if you beat someone that has it, you can take it.
I ran into this problem in early Arbaal campaign. Malakai came at me with tons of gyros and I didn't have the furies to handle it, just a bunch of ground melee that couldn't do sh!t
Oh my god lmao this is a hilarious matchup
Would the Heaven magic be able to hurt the gyros? Seems like if they stop to shoot you might be able to land a lightning bolt or comet of cassadora on them right? Or is it JUST the explosion on the ground that does damage?
watching this 5 minutes after the ball dropped
Kinda crazy that an army can get wiped out never setting foot on the battlefield, shouldn't count as its second battle if it never even shows up... It's mostly something for the player to exploit but still.
Always found it odd that killing Army 1 before Army 2 can show up, then choosing to end the battle instead of waiting for Army 2 counts as a loss for Army 2. Some spaghetti coding I guess
I'm sad that you never cast "The Maw" and only cast "Bonecrusher" as your damage spell. It costs the same WoM because of Skragg's unique line and there was some serious blobbing at the start.
You also have effectively infinite WoM thanks to "Bone to Pot" and "Extra ingredients" and ended the battle with loads of winds.
AI was lactose intolerent
Was there any reason, the second mage got ignored completly? I think it had chain lightning and the flying ones clumped pretty much, and WoM didn't seem to be any problem at all
Hey did you know the nemesis crown ability can hit flyers with the shrapnel? Discovered this by accident once. takes some practiced timing but can wipe half unit with one good connection.
I once played Kroq-gar and I've beeten thorek and he had only one army left, in that army he had a gyrocopter with the unbreaking rune put on it, so he attacked my starting settlement, and i only had like 2 javelin skinks. I took out his army but then those fing copters
Happy new year Legend! If you're QLD based I hope I've timed this right, although I'm sure this is banked but the vibes remain!😂
The trees are speaking Khazalid today it seems.
I had a similar situation, had to do exactly the same as this, stressful
AI has been watching and learnin 😂
Happy new year everyone! I like how my battle from legend video on The Morbidly Mobility Challenged Battle video influenced other battles and videos of Legend's videos
Happy new year on ya
What is it like to have playing a game as a job? Do you enjoy it after all those hours played?
Ahhh you dare to use my cheez against me AI
The worst is when you fight Thorgrim with unbreakable thunderbarges…. Its an auto loss if you dont have flying units
been having the same problems with Khorne agaisnt master of Creation.... Auto resolve is your friend in those cases
How the turn tables have turned!!
The problem is those Gyrocopters… peak commentary
Skrag needs a Channeling staff
post launch I E tww3 was really a sandbox ez spam melee infantry and conquer the map. but Dwarf dlc(mainly but ofc ai was buffed in general) really put a stop to that, you cant excpect to make trash armies and breeze past turn50
Doesn't Flock of Doom affect flyers ?
It does, but because of the low amount of Gyrocopter entities it's not really worth it. Plus the Dwarfs' inherent 35 percent Spell Resistance.
you need a Legend to take down the dawi airforce
bahahahahaha, hilarious to see this from the AI!!! But you can't triple stamp a double stamp!!
Aight, Thunderbarge AI doomstack video when?
Revenge of the AI !
Idk, seems like you could've just smashed first army and general in the second causing copters to f off.
Taha, I'm sorry but that's awsome XD
no hands haS A BEAR TRAP
I'M SORRY HOW DOES THAT WORK?
Hello guys, do you know any mods making ai more clever in army building? I wanna play more fair game))
I hope they remove in the future that you can choose to bring only one army in.
Makes so many fights easy to just generate another Lord to do it.
I have no clue why anyone would make an army that can't shoot at all when their faction has some. Then again I play elves and dwarves mostly.
As a Vampires Fan...I prefer to Shoot my Vargheists at the enemy rather than Arrows or Bullets.
@@justinlast2lastharder749 Yeah but your faction doesn't really have a choice :D Ogres have ranged units.
The A.I. : We have brought a Doomstack.
Legend : But can You USE it?
The A.I. : ** REEeees w/ 1's and 0's **
you cant cheese a cheeser
B-b-but legend using the nemesis crwon is cheeese
I would have actually charged in immediately. Obviously, this army’s a bit of a dog’s breakfast, but you have about 4 or 8 gorgers (with the summons), and several other good units, with Skrag who can heal them. 3 mins was honestly plenty of time to smash those Dawi.
lol
This microphone is giving some metallic reverb
Legend please check your subscriptions, in case the AI was stupid enough and subscribed to you under the nickname TotalWarWhIIIAI or something like that - and ban him!!! I don't want to play against THIS!!!
Hi
Yeah, ai makes whole stacks of dragons, grenade cav and all other manner of annoying stuff now. I kimd of hate it, its super annoying to fight.