The Cheating in NASCAR Compilation You've Been Asking For!

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  • We've been able to feature some incredible stories about the innovative ways NASCAR competitors can find to bend the rules ... or, if you must ... flat-out cheat.
    Included in this compilation are five of the most open and honest discussion of NASCAR trickery you'll find anywhere on UA-cam, elsewhere on the Internet or even in the garage itself.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 208

  • @israelmathes6268
    @israelmathes6268 Місяць тому +124

    NASCAR should have bought Smokey's shop and made it a museum.

    • @ronniewatkins
      @ronniewatkins Місяць тому +16

      Damn straight! Smokey belongs in the HOF!!!

    • @twoblacklabs904
      @twoblacklabs904 Місяць тому +17

      @@ronniewatkins… It never happened (and the HOF nomination will never happen) because Bill France Jr. couldn’t stand Yunick’s “disrespect” towards the sanctioning body, and the ease with which Smokey could get under his and his father’s skin. He’d just as soon walk away like he didn’t need a thing from NASCAR’s brass…and DID when he went IndyCar racing and made great strides in that racing series…

    • @ryanstuckey8677
      @ryanstuckey8677 28 днів тому +17

      @@twoblacklabs904 france hated smokey because he was smarter than france and wasn't afraid to tell him that!

    • @travisdonohue8826
      @travisdonohue8826 24 дні тому

      😅six3⁰iron klopp erkek

    • @joneskendrick2084
      @joneskendrick2084 24 дні тому

      @@ryanstuckey8677 Smokey wouldn't be controlled by France is more the truth. EVERYTHING 'Ol Bill did was to lone his pockets... and his descendants have continued that family creed.

  • @davidpate6095
    @davidpate6095 29 днів тому +32

    I couldn’t hit the like button fast enough. Those ol’ characters is what made NASCAR so fun. I’m just sitting here smiling at those stories. Those guys are my heroes.

  • @dhill4001
    @dhill4001 8 днів тому +3

    This is just what you call "practical engineering": Getting what you want out of what you've got.

  • @TheWynch
    @TheWynch 25 днів тому +22

    Some of my favorite stories involved The Elliott Brothers, Like using the Roll bar as an extra fuel cell, narrowing the car so no one could draft Bill, and I still wanna know how he came from 3 laps down to win that dang race, there had to be some underhanded help somewhere.

    • @davidmassey4341
      @davidmassey4341 23 дні тому +4

      Ernie Elliott HP 😂

    • @b.w.22
      @b.w.22 23 дні тому +5

      The Elliott Brothers were so brilliant and excellent gamesmen: Their “creativity” was masked by their “aw shucks” down-home Georgia boy personas. They seemed like genuinely great guys, but they were as interested in winning as everyone else. Them not hiring anyone from NC to guard their secrets is telling. I’d love to know what was going on with that Talladega car too.

    • @TheWynch
      @TheWynch 23 дні тому +1

      @@b.w.22 , We followed Bills career for a long time, used to watch him race at the local track in GA @ Lanier Raceway. He just lived the next county over from us, we were all about the same age. Sadly we did not get to watch him finish his career as we moved away to a place that didn't televise NASCAR, but we cheer Chase on and remember how much he races like his daddy did.

    • @edmondcamp2878
      @edmondcamp2878 20 днів тому +1

      Now I’m not mechanically inclined enough to really know what I’m talking about but I think Smokey Yunick said the Elliotts did have horsepower but they had a trick rear differential where the axle came disconnected to differential on both sides and it handle like an independent suspension and he got through the corners better. I don’t think back then NASCAR wasn’t as strict on inspecting the cars after the race. I don’t know.

    • @b.w.22
      @b.w.22 20 днів тому +1

      @@edmondcamp2878 - Interesting. I’ve never heard of that, uh, “exploit.” If figures like DW are to be believed (and they should be), the post-race inspection in the past was pretty limited. It seems to me that they were most interested in things to do with the engine and I can’t imagine back then that they’d be opening up the transmission or rear-end, right? A lot has been made of the “aero” of their ‘85 car and its dimensions, like I’ve heard it was some percentage smaller or narrower, but man - they clearly had some muscle in their engines and weren’t blowing them up like they did in the early 80’s.
      Where’d you hear about that trick rear-end? I’ve heard of transmissions where “the gears all fall out” and reverts to basically a straight-drive, though how that all works remains elusive to me, but I’d not heard of where it becomes rear independent suspension!

  • @terrygarvin1392
    @terrygarvin1392 Місяць тому +17

    These are the best discussions. Really appreciate it..

  • @Paul_D_Lashley
    @Paul_D_Lashley 24 дні тому +11

    I read a story by Smokey years ago in circle track magazine about him and someone else putting blades on the clutch and shaping the inside of the bell housing to make a turbine that blew into the air cleaner. I don’t think it made much because of the materials he had to work with at the time. It fascinated me as a kid, the ingenuity those guys had was awesome.

    • @ludicrous7044
      @ludicrous7044 21 день тому +1

      A TURBO ON THE CLUTCH?? 😊😮👅🤭

    • @Paul_D_Lashley
      @Paul_D_Lashley 21 день тому +4

      @@ludicrous7044 technically I think it was more of a centrifugal supercharger, but yes. They put turbine style fins on the pressure plate and shaped the bell housing to make it more efficient. It pulled air from under the car and discharged out of the top of the bell housing into the bottom of the air cleaner. It was in an old circle track racing magazine in the early 90’s if my memory is correct.

    • @kfrerix9777
      @kfrerix9777 11 днів тому +1

      ​@@Paul_D_Lashleyholy shitballs. thank you for that! 😎

  • @wendellparker2958
    @wendellparker2958 21 день тому +6

    I wasn't cheating nobody, I was just trying to make the race. Haha

  • @pauljanssen7594
    @pauljanssen7594 25 днів тому +14

    We need to get a rid of the officials at NASCAR give NASCAR back to the people in the drivers. And tell the drivers if they smash up more than two cars in a season they're not racing for the rest of the season.

  • @JamesTaylor-is9xm
    @JamesTaylor-is9xm Місяць тому +11

    Anything in the vault of a driver purposefully wrecking an opponent for the win (not a bump-n-run or fighting for same space)? Asking for a friend 😅

    • @EatShitYouTube86
      @EatShitYouTube86 Місяць тому

      WAAH WAAH WAAH

    • @RAEckart22
      @RAEckart22 Місяць тому +2

      Still can't believe Ricky Rudd got a 5-sec penalty for Sonoma 1991

    • @bobbbobb4663
      @bobbbobb4663 Місяць тому +2

      Hi Austin.

  • @terrygarvin1392
    @terrygarvin1392 Місяць тому +10

    The best ones still have not been found.

  • @brianmassey5897
    @brianmassey5897 11 днів тому +2

    My favorite story was Smokey Yunick doing a very simple fix of bigger fuel lines which gave a few extra laps worth fuel. Simple but yet effective.

    • @user-ck5sn5hd9o
      @user-ck5sn5hd9o 23 години тому

      and it wasnt cheating, no rule at that time that prevented it.

  • @jefferyrobertson7520
    @jefferyrobertson7520 Місяць тому +10

    Thanks For Uploading Rick And Steve

  • @paddyneill1964
    @paddyneill1964 21 день тому +3

    Sounds like Slugger Labbe was more interested in what the rule book DIDN"T say than what it did say. I like that.

  • @joneskendrick2084
    @joneskendrick2084 24 дні тому +3

    This video is awesome! One thing that STILL goes on today are fuel additives though I'm told The France Cosa Nostra has cracked down on it. I remain skeptical. Defeating the restrictor plate was THE goto area to "bypass" the rules and it's not that difficult once you gain a very basic working knowledge basic fluid flow dynamics.(Think Venturi affect or Bernoulli's Law, i.e. aircraft wing profile) I suspect that engineers at both Ford and Chrysler plus GM frequently helped a few select teams as the sophisticated cylinder heads + intakes + exhaust systems I observed didn't magically appear of a random race shop from a guy with an 8th grade education. It's highly unlikely that cheat intake cheat is still in use today due to the more rigorous inspecting. Hell, all France did was hire a few of the really "creative" mechanics as inspectors and most of the shenanigans were over. Fun times while it lasted.... and you can bet they're still trying even today.

  • @jeffhill3681
    @jeffhill3681 27 днів тому +3

    The best one I remember was the extra air run through the restrictor plate by using the carburetor mounting studs. Rules state ' all intake through the restricter plate ' not. ' the throttle holes ' but still not in the spirit of the rules.

    • @deantait8326
      @deantait8326 27 днів тому +3

      That was Kenny Schrader in the #25 (i think) Extra long carb studs that wouldn’t let the carb seal to the plate. It’s also possible the plate would allow air to pass under the plate at speed. They got away with that for over a year I believe

    • @jeffhill3681
      @jeffhill3681 27 днів тому +2

      @@deantait8326
      No. The extra air enters from holes drilled horizontally in the base plate of the carb above the restrictor plate, around the carburetor studs, through the restrictor plate, then into the intake manifold. The studs were hourglass shaped and sunk in the manifold an extra half inch past other drilled holes into the manifold throat. Throttle plate mounting holes were oversized, aligned and sealed with a step washer on the nuts.
      All air was controled by the throttle blades and came through the carburetor and went through the restrictor plate, just not all through the (4) 11/16 holes in the restrictor plate like it was supposed to. 100% by the letter of the rules, just not the intent. Caught at Daytona, first restrictor plate race of the year.

  • @deantait8326
    @deantait8326 Місяць тому +6

    The Hendricks car with Ken Shrader with the huge ‘vacuum’ leak… err air intake under the restrictor plate… dominant at Daytona/ Talledega for 4-5 races? Or #4 at the restrictor plate tracks and I’m still not sure what they did… but now I do 😳😎

    • @Chris-j6h
      @Chris-j6h 15 днів тому +1

      Thats an old circle track trick......leave the 2 front carb bolts kinda loose....when the throttle is pushed.."pulling the carb".....giving the front of the carb a little "lift"...air leak.....more air....basic cheatin stuff,lol

  • @thegreattreon0177
    @thegreattreon0177 28 днів тому +3

    One guy looks like Cale Yarborough and the other looks like Junior Johnson and JD McDuffie

  • @grant6173
    @grant6173 14 годин тому

    Absolutely. The rules are where the advantages are. Like, "Don't do this". Hmm.. why not? So we can't do x, but x(ish) works better anyway.

  • @fireballsoutherner
    @fireballsoutherner День тому

    It wasn't cheating. It was merely American Ingenuity at work.😂

  • @rogerwalker9191
    @rogerwalker9191 25 днів тому +1

    ...wow, very, very interesting stories! "Who Won??!" is always the Headline & media focus but the Back Stories Re: the ingenuity needed to Get In the Race & then figure someway to actually Win the damn thing...The Back Stories expose the Soul of Racing. Well done guys!

  • @chrisgrimes7178
    @chrisgrimes7178 16 днів тому

    Like they say, if you ain't cheatin - you ain't tryin! LOL!

  • @rfd883
    @rfd883 14 днів тому

    Two of my favorites - 1. DW and his oversized fuel line that held like 3 extra gallons.... 2. in the early days of restrictor plates Harry Gant (I believe it was) used hollow bolts to mount the carb to the intake manifold overcoming the restrictor plate limitation on air intake.

  • @rinrat6754
    @rinrat6754 20 днів тому +1

    Couldn't care less about who wins or loses, but this is fascinating. Old school NASCAR cheating is just plain fun.

  • @tyesalhus5604
    @tyesalhus5604 26 днів тому +1

    I love these videos. This stuff goes on in every industry in racing. Whether it’s lighter, bigger, smaller, taller or shorter. Slugger said it best it’s an advantage. The people writing the rules are smart but they are writing them not analyzing them. It’s the same thing if you are working on something and can’t figure it out and beating your head against the wall and someone else walks up and goes “why don’t you do this” or that goes here not there” and it clicks in your head. It’s another set of eyes that hasn’t seen what you are doing. That all this is. If it’s really bad you are getting hammered for it, but if it’s down right amazing and really cool you can’t use it but damn it it’s good

    • @baboracus
      @baboracus 24 дні тому

      Slugger isn't his real name.

    • @tyesalhus5604
      @tyesalhus5604 24 дні тому

      @@baboracus no really thanks for the info. I know this. Ever thought about not trying to correct everyone in everything you do. People have nick names but you probably never got one of those.

    • @baboracus
      @baboracus 23 дні тому

      @@tyesalhus5604 he lied about his name, obviously he's going to cheat.

    • @tyesalhus5604
      @tyesalhus5604 22 дні тому

      @@baboracus if you are under the impression that he’s the only person in NASCAR that cheats you are very misinformed. Every single team and driver has been apart of an illegal car. Even Dale Sr and Jr. Everyone bends the rules in racing. You can name any team you want and they have ran at least one thing illegal on one of their cars, whether getting caught or not. If you want to argue that you don’t know racing or NASCAR. NASCAR driver in the early years were moonshine runners IE criminals so they aren’t going to cheat. This conversation is so frickin stupid I have zero clue why I’m still talking to you. The video was great and good views now I’m talking to someone that is crying because someone is using their nickname so he’s a cheater and I’m goin die on this mountain telling the world the NASCAR is a good,wholesome, church loving, god fearing men and women that never try to gain an advantage by racing in the grey area you are wrong I’m sorry you are wrong plain and simple. Please stop replying to this because I’m super tired of it.

    • @baboracus
      @baboracus 21 день тому

      @@tyesalhus5604 A nickname would be Richard "Slugger" Labbe.. A lying/cheating BSer would try to pass his government issued ID as Slugger Labbe. The best thing about NASCAR was the names of those involved (Sterlin Marlin, Booty Barker, Hermie Sadler, Lake Speed) so when a guy tries to pass off a fake name to fit in to the cool names in NASCAR its a dirty trick.

  • @vaultofC3042
    @vaultofC3042 10 днів тому

    The Woods Brothers fancy carb 1st comes to mind. The desperation to run nitrous lol

  • @billt6116
    @billt6116 7 днів тому

    This is particularly funny, as nascar was born from people bending the rules! Just out of curiosity... Has anyone ever tried refrigerating fuel? They'd do that for distance flights in the old days, As cold gas takes less space than warm. You could increase the fuel capacity, without expanding the tank! Who'd suspect insulated, Refrigerated fuel filler cans. No traces on the car, odorless and colorless !?🤔

  • @joneskendrick2084
    @joneskendrick2084 24 дні тому +2

    N20 doesn't really "cool the fuel". The gaseous compound contains oxygen and nitrogen; it is an oxidizer often used in rocket fuel. Generally, anything with "ox or O" in its name contains an oxygen molecule. Thus, when heated, the gases separates freeing the oxygen molecule which allows for a hotter gasoline combustion flame === more HP. There were cars with N20 in their fire extinguishers. If you want to talk foolish, Foyt did it at Indy which was like riding around in an armed missile! Nuts.

  • @anthonyscott5407
    @anthonyscott5407 День тому

    The Fix in In Book! Excellent Read,
    All sports and racing fixed.

  • @JeffreyPerrault-hk6xe
    @JeffreyPerrault-hk6xe 23 години тому

    My favorite is without a doubt Smokey.Half the rulebook is written cuz of him.

  • @jonathanaliff6121
    @jonathanaliff6121 8 днів тому

    The ones I feel the worst for are the ones that cheated like hell, got away with it and never broke the top 10.

  • @johnunderhill7300
    @johnunderhill7300 9 днів тому

    A cool can has been banned at many tracks! 2 feet of aluminum fuel line in a cup full of ice,xis worth 3 tenths!

  • @r1lark
    @r1lark Місяць тому +3

    Good video. Especially like D.K. Ulrich!

  • @jasonrogers9169
    @jasonrogers9169 10 днів тому +1

    I just want to be clear that bending the rules is not cheating or creating new rules or doing something not in the book. Now if they say you can't run hemi engines and you run a hemi that's cheating but if it's not in the book then it's not cheating.

  • @lejacksonjr3
    @lejacksonjr3 Місяць тому +6

    I hope more compilation videos are coming.
    But where is animated Steve Waid?

  • @KennethMixson
    @KennethMixson 12 днів тому

    AH, this was back when NASCAR was great. The rulebook was treated more like guidelines than rules. My favorite was Smokey's 2 inch by 11-foot fuel lines.

  • @pl7868
    @pl7868 19 днів тому +2

    Read everything Smokey ever had in ink when I was young on building motors , and if you enjoy building old first gen engines that's almost a bible .

  • @paulcoinc
    @paulcoinc 12 днів тому +1

    If you aren't looking for an advantage then you aren't doing your job. That is something that will never change your in racing.

  • @robertsklenka5823
    @robertsklenka5823 9 днів тому

    This is the stuff that made NASCAR what it was ..such great days

  • @CharlesAAnnen-rh4mk
    @CharlesAAnnen-rh4mk 5 днів тому

    I always admired Dale Earnhart as a builder and driver.
    And i clearly recall his outspoken disdain for restrictor plates. And yet he seemed to excell at those super speedways huh.
    Was he a master of disguise as a cheater/genius

  • @twoblacklabs904
    @twoblacklabs904 Місяць тому +5

    Best cheating story?
    Darrell Waltrip’s “Bombs Away.”

    • @ludicrous7044
      @ludicrous7044 21 день тому

      He's got many hilarious stories!
      The best one is they put ball bearings in his frame and sealed it with wax.
      When the wax melted the bearings rolled out on the track lightning the car !!🤭
      The car behind him radioed the pit boss that metal balls were bouncing off his windshield!!🙆
      They black flagged Darrell and fined and suspended him.
      Naturally he didn't know NOTHING about it!!😁

    • @michaelphelps5064
      @michaelphelps5064 14 днів тому

      And DW can tell a story!

  • @FANJG24
    @FANJG24 8 днів тому

    This is unbelievably believable

  • @bobkonradi1027
    @bobkonradi1027 16 днів тому

    Here's one I don't think many people know of... as we know, all cars other than mini-mobiles have 5 wheel studs per wheel. One NASCAR team deduced they'd save a couple seconds per pit stop if they remachined their axles and wheels to 4 wheel studs. After all the early day Falcons and Valiants and other econo-cars of the early 60s only had 4 wheel studs per axle, so they were just duplicating what the factories were doing, albeit with lighter cars. NASCAR inspectors immediately caught it and told the team to put some 5-stud axles back in to the car, and that was that. Technically they weren't cheating, there was no rule mandating 5-stud axle shafts, and there were no points docked against them, etc, It was more like creative thinking that got out of hand.
    My other favorite Smokey Yunick story is about his 3" diameter fuel lines from the fuel tank. Technically not a "cheat" because there was nothing in the rule book as to max fuel line diameter, until NASCAR outlawed it. Before he was "counseled at length, he could carry an extra couple of gallons of fuel, saving himself an extra pit stop or three. Then there was when he built what appeared to be an oversized fuel tank, put a deflated basketball into it, partially inflated it, his car naturally got checked for an oversized tank, but he proved it only carried the allocated amount of fuel. Then before the race started, he deflated the basketball, took it out of the tank and put in some extra fuel. This definitely was cheating, but hey, it worked for a while. It's interesting, and this goes back about 15 years or so, but one Las Vegas casino's owner was a NASCAR fan, and he had some retired stock cars on display. One of the stock cars DID have an oversized fuel pipe of about 1 1/2" or thereabouts fuel line running to the carburetor. I forget whose car it was, but there it was.

  • @joeellison-z2n
    @joeellison-z2n День тому

    I had old friend who raced in the dirt tracks here in south east Texas back in the 50’s & 60’s . If wasn’t in the rule book it wasn’t cheating!!!!
    Maybe bending the rule but not breaking it

  • @mfdt18c78
    @mfdt18c78 29 днів тому

    This is fantastic! Love these videos!

  • @theflippro7384
    @theflippro7384 16 днів тому +1

    Joe Gazaway is my granddaddy and I love hearing all his NASCAR stories! Couldn’t be prouder to have him as my granddaddy and Bill as my Uncle.

    • @TheSceneVault
      @TheSceneVault  16 днів тому

      Is your grandfather still alive? If so, any chance he might consider coming on the podcast?

    • @theflippro7384
      @theflippro7384 16 днів тому

      @@TheSceneVault He is still alive. I can certainly speak to him and my Aunt about that. I think he would enjoy that.

    • @TheSceneVault
      @TheSceneVault  16 днів тому

      My email is rick@thescenevaultpodcast.com. Send me a message and I’ll get you all of my main contact information.

    • @theflippro7384
      @theflippro7384 16 днів тому

      @@TheSceneVaultwill do! Thank you!

    • @theflippro7384
      @theflippro7384 16 днів тому

      @@TheSceneVault the email did not work.

  • @LeslieReese-k4m
    @LeslieReese-k4m 7 днів тому

    Junior Johnson was probably the best at cheating

  • @b.w.22
    @b.w.22 28 днів тому +2

    This is something missing from modern NASCAR as well, in my opinion - the enormous impact that the crews hard on their cars. The way I see it, qualifying was the race between the crews while the actual race was between the drivers and pit teams. Making each car exactly like the others does not improve the sport and debatably improves races.

    • @davidmassey4341
      @davidmassey4341 23 дні тому +1

      Bring back CHEATIN

    • @b.w.22
      @b.w.22 23 дні тому

      @@davidmassey4341 - LOL! Well, maybe not “bring back cheating,” but I think the sport was more fun when there was more room inside the rules. I get that figures like Brewer with Junior, Harry Hyde, or Everenham did a great deal to CREATE those rules by bending and breaking so many or by exploiting gray areas, it was that “creativity” and those efforts to “get competitive” (like Jimmy Means says) that made the totality of Winston Cup racing so interesting. While now it’s all about these (often young and boring) drivers driving nearly identical cars with a bunch of helmeted robots in the pits, in the past people tuned in on TV for qualifying! And the stands were half-full too!
      I mean, if NASCAR wants such an even field with nobody interesting enough to try to break rules because it’ll cost them their heads and their children’s college funds, why not just do iRacing. They’ll bend any rule to wave a yellow for a “restart” with 5 laps to go and invent all this goofy stages and playoffs for whatever reason, even “overtimes” where the leader will run out of gas, but anyone who bends a piece of metal wrong is fined a half-million dollars and any driver who says anything that hurts NASCAR’s feelings is banished. It’s so far from the K&K Insurance Team, Smokey Yunick, the Alabama Gang, Wilkes County, One Tough Customer, the Folgers 25 car, or Cale driving a Hardee’s car. It’s even so far from Gordon hard-racing Rusty, Mark Martin, and Smoke.

  • @st.gregory
    @st.gregory 6 днів тому

    The last guy sounds like uncle joe on petticoat junction

  • @donsimonsen1658
    @donsimonsen1658 Місяць тому +3

    Manipulating the rules to your own advantage.

  • @eugeneanderson7984
    @eugeneanderson7984 14 днів тому +1

    Some of the greatest men alive Testerone was not a problem back then.

  • @Papajoeynews4780
    @Papajoeynews4780 22 дні тому +1

    last weeks call of the race for instance. Bumping and pushing and fighting to get on the list of playoffs. I would’ve done the same thing. Shame on you NASCAR.

  • @LoganFord91
    @LoganFord91 7 днів тому

    And this is what made NASCAR. Not a field of identical cars with identical races and teams. Skill, ingenuity, creativity, craftsmanship, determination. These "gray areas" are what kept the small hometown teams on the track with the big dogs. Something we will never see again.

    • @billt6116
      @billt6116 7 днів тому +1

      That's certainly how it started, too! It began with cars that looked like Grandma's, but Unless Grandma had been drinking moonshine, like the car, They usually weren't capable of going that fast!

  • @tubaman211
    @tubaman211 Місяць тому +1

    Great Job Rick!

  • @kevinlewis9151
    @kevinlewis9151 6 днів тому

    I've heard more cheats from Dale Jr himself.

  • @AustinBoil
    @AustinBoil 9 днів тому

    Nitrous just adds oxygen. It's a non flammable liquid that when heated it splits the nitrogen & oxygen molecules.

  • @user-ut3bw1vp5i
    @user-ut3bw1vp5i 23 дні тому +1

    MY FAVORITE CHEAT IS WALTRIPS WAX FILLED INTAKE BOLTS.

  • @vinewood8295
    @vinewood8295 29 днів тому +1

    I been said that 4 car made Sterling not the other way around, neither Sterling nor Ernie won another points paying restrictor plate race after they left Morgan McLure Racing...

    • @davidh6818
      @davidh6818 24 дні тому

      Sterling was a very good restictor plate racer both before and after driving for Morgan McClure.He nearly won the Daytona 500 in 1991 and won a twin 125 qualifying race twice after leaving the 4 car,as well as leading the Daytona 500 late in the race in 2002 before his infamous red flag incident.

    • @vinewood8295
      @vinewood8295 24 дні тому

      @@davidh6818 He was good yes BUT like I said, he was never able to get to victorylane in a points paying Cup race other than his time in the #4 car...

  • @user-xb9wg8er4c
    @user-xb9wg8er4c 24 дні тому

    Check out the Tim Brewer episode, the dale jr download with Jimmy Means and the Andy Petree that talks about the throwout bearings in the spring cups. You have to use some imagination but that's luck and genius

  • @pittsky
    @pittsky Місяць тому +2

    Excellent!!!!!!

  • @TheJackmac55
    @TheJackmac55 25 днів тому

    pure gold...thanx much...

  • @TN-Vols-Fan
    @TN-Vols-Fan 22 дні тому +1

    I really miss real nascar racing.

  • @robbinscarberry8085
    @robbinscarberry8085 Місяць тому +1

    Great stuff

  • @arthurhouston3
    @arthurhouston3 10 днів тому

    Ward Burton two floor pans to move center of gravity. Won 500 2002. Ran it 2001 but wreched before the end said in interview if he would have still be in race 2001 he would have been in lead and good chance Dale would still be here.

  • @robdalbey430
    @robdalbey430 21 день тому

    This is what made nascar fun!..

  • @arthurhouston3
    @arthurhouston3 10 днів тому

    I was at Dayton 74 75.

  • @user-KrackerJack
    @user-KrackerJack 19 днів тому

    Okay , you got my like and sub. 👍🏼

  • @newriver8940
    @newriver8940 28 днів тому

    The Quest for the competive edge

  • @1972lesteryan
    @1972lesteryan 7 днів тому

    It’s not cheating if it’s not in the rule book.

  • @bbedgood7294
    @bbedgood7294 Місяць тому +1

    Yes sir you got me listening

  • @jn262006
    @jn262006 6 днів тому

    Wonder if Dale Jrs 88 car was illegal at Michigan in 2012 when slugger got caught because he whipped their ass that day

  • @badad0166
    @badad0166 Місяць тому +1

    Tech notes from your annoying TV friend! The first segment has "hot" audio (overmodulated- too dang loud on the input). 26:37 Man light can't compete with sunlight. If you open up enough to see Jr. he will look like he's in heaven, floating among the over exposed clouds of white.
    Use sunlight as a side light or even a back light, if you have a white board or similar reflection to bounce the sun onto the talent from the front. I've done enough "Electronic Field Production" (no budget interviews) that I have mental notebook of what works and what doesn't and I like to share and feel like I'm contributing. Hope you agree.

    • @TheSceneVault
      @TheSceneVault  Місяць тому +3

      The first thing I'm going to do when I strike it rich with this channel is hire someone with the technical expertise to prevent all the things you've mentioned here ... and more.
      Until then ... I'm winging it the best I know how. And that's pretty much turning the sound board on, hitting record and hoping for the best.

    • @badad0166
      @badad0166 29 днів тому +1

      @@TheSceneVault You've come a long way since your early vids. Chin up! Stay out of direct sunlight and test levels on your mics before you roll. Easy peasy. 😀

    • @rogerwalker9191
      @rogerwalker9191 25 днів тому

      @@TheSceneVault ...Ah, Light...a very enlightening subject, to be sure. 1st thing to remember in Filming: "Be aware of what the Light doing at all times & what is your interaction with it?" Adjust & Win!and nobody knew Lighting as well as the Movie Makers of the '30s-'40s.

  • @midnightrun5370
    @midnightrun5370 11 днів тому

    The ideas they came up with in the early days are fascinating...To bad its not like that anymore because of corruption and the fixed races....They know who will win before the race starts nowadays and its a damn shame..

  • @pughoneycutt1986
    @pughoneycutt1986 8 днів тому

    I keep reading different places about a team that had mercury in the right frame rail that they pumped to the left rail after the race started in order to gain left side side weight bias. But no one ever says who it was
    WHO WAS IT ?

  • @buildingracingvideos4714
    @buildingracingvideos4714 22 дні тому +1

    Every team cheats. The best cheater ever is the one that hasn't or isn't being caught. My attitude is Smokey was the worst. He got caught more than anyone else.

  • @danielkearns3600
    @danielkearns3600 27 днів тому

    When I raced the rule book was not what you couldn't do but what I could do. If it wasn't a rule and gave a advantage I did it.

  • @Mike-xt2ot
    @Mike-xt2ot 17 днів тому

    The rule book was created from engineers without college degrees who were some of the smartest people in the world.

  • @dalejr183
    @dalejr183 12 днів тому

    Some of the best invovative technologies come from bending the rules. Let them build their own cars again.

    • @dalejr183
      @dalejr183 12 днів тому

      If their excuse is the big teams beat up on the little teams in socialism. Put a spending cap on but don’t neuter em in the name of equality

  • @Sills71
    @Sills71 26 днів тому +5

    If you ain't cheatin' then you ain't tryin"

    • @ludicrous7044
      @ludicrous7044 21 день тому

      Didn't Smokey also say : It ain't cheating if ya don't get caught??🤭

  • @leejohnson6173
    @leejohnson6173 10 днів тому

    So much bs being spewed..nitrous just cools the fuel huh 😂

  • @terryjacob8169
    @terryjacob8169 25 днів тому +7

    It wasn't Smokey's fault that he was way, way, smarter than the rule-makers.

  • @thunderroad7289
    @thunderroad7289 25 днів тому +3

    So what we are finding out is most of those so called fast Chevy teams were cheating lol

    • @bobkonradi1027
      @bobkonradi1027 16 днів тому

      There is the story of Smokey Yunick taking a big block 427 Chevy and destroking it, which wasn't illegal, but he calculated he could get as much power out of a destroked 427 to offset the reduced cubic inches, and he could rev his engine higher, thus overcompensating for the smaller engine size, and making more power. And, he experimented with rods that had no piston pin bushings, thus making his reciprocating mass a little lighter, thus he could rev the engine a little tighter. He floated his piston pins directly on the rods small ends, and it gave him an extra 100 rpm or so with no adverse effects. In fact, in his book about Chevy engines, he did directly address this, saying that if a person would drill an oiling hole in the small end of the rod, it was perfectly OK, with no harm done to run the piston pin directly on the rod, steel to steel. He did caution that the machinist had no tolerance when setting a piston pin to float in the small end of the rod, it had to be exact to a very, very close tolerance. Normally, if a machinist over machined the small end of a rod, they could correct it with a slightly bigger bronze bushing, but if running steel-to-steel, piston pin to a rod small end, there was no room for error.

  • @davekraus7334
    @davekraus7334 Місяць тому +5

    Don’t do animation anymore rather see u

  • @grant6173
    @grant6173 14 годин тому

    Reading the rule book isn't cheating. If the rule book doesn't make jet engines illegal, why not?

  • @user-KrackerJack
    @user-KrackerJack 19 днів тому +1

    Why would I do any of those things before I even watch your video, tempted to just leave now , aggravates me when people ask to do all those things before you even have a chance to watch

  • @hardhead5700
    @hardhead5700 25 днів тому

    I call innovative

  • @sarahwhitlock6100
    @sarahwhitlock6100 25 днів тому

    Too bad no one wants to talk about ammonium perchlorate sublimation.
    It requires a high vacuum and causes a lot of problems during caution.
    Examples include the 1982 and 1992 Indy 500 parade laps, Montoya hitting the Daytona jet dryer in 2012, and Waltrips truck exploding in the pits.
    The real trick is lacing it was Silicon which react with the nitrogen at 40 times greater energy than H2O.
    Night racing is the real giveaway when the rear rotors are glowing during caution.

  • @MH-53E
    @MH-53E 7 днів тому

    I don't know crap about the Nascar Crew Chief world but I don't need to know to immediately intuit that this Slugger guy is a slimy character, racing or not. The kind that would lie to his Grandma to get something he wanted. Cheating is cheating, not willing to own up to that truth after being out of the game is telling...

    • @grant6173
      @grant6173 14 годин тому

      Hol' up now. Something you obviously don't know about Nascar is that it was started by bootleggers outrunning the feds. Every last one of the originals was pushing the rules or it would never have happened. Back then, bending the rules was to be expected, and it was up to "the man" to catch them.

  • @TheTruth-on5zx
    @TheTruth-on5zx Місяць тому +3

    if ya ain't cheatin ya ain't eatin

  • @trevleisner
    @trevleisner 3 дні тому

    Sound quality is not great, something gotta be done to clean it up. Good video other than that though.

  • @SonnySonOfSimp
    @SonnySonOfSimp 21 день тому +1

    Dale Jr's engine for the July Daytona 2001 race. Biggest engine in the field guaranteed.

  • @darringrey4329
    @darringrey4329 16 днів тому

    The nitrous talk doesn't add up nitrous carries xtra oxygen its the xtra fuel you add that makes the power , nitrous on its will lean out the engine

    • @michaelphelps5064
      @michaelphelps5064 14 днів тому

      With extra air it pulled extra fuel. The rpms did that. And they only needed a small amount of horse power. For a short time.

  • @henrysmith8012
    @henrysmith8012 9 днів тому

    Some of this does not make sense. Nitrous and fuel have to injected together. You just inject nitrous by itself. Good stories though.

    • @davidleonard8369
      @davidleonard8369 3 дні тому

      They already had the carburetor jetted fat for qualifying with a small shot of nitrous.

  •  14 днів тому

    Ya because cheating is something to be proud of .....................................................

  • @briansenecal3071
    @briansenecal3071 29 днів тому

    NICE!👍

  • @PhillipNigro-nq3qy
    @PhillipNigro-nq3qy 16 днів тому

    Ol Smokey

  • @richarderickson8840
    @richarderickson8840 20 днів тому +1

    Any (cheating) bending the rules by Junior Johnson should be though of as supreme Engineering. I am willing to bet that his car's won races and nobody ever found the modifications he made. If he was caught, it just showed him a better way to not get caught. The man was a legend in the sport

  • @wesleyblanton2432
    @wesleyblanton2432 25 днів тому

    Help me understand the tire swapping and how it helped him?

    • @paulmryglod4802
      @paulmryglod4802 18 днів тому +1

      Left side tires were softer compound because they got less wear on them compared to harder compound on the right side.
      Softer compound was faster at the expense of prematurely wearing, especially on a hot day.
      Lots of teams would do this, but not all teams forged the numbers

    • @wesleyblanton2432
      @wesleyblanton2432 18 днів тому

      @@paulmryglod4802 Thank You for the explanation.

  • @cluckhead1913
    @cluckhead1913 13 днів тому

    Because those guys pulled that kind of shit back then is the reason why NASCAR is dead today.

  • @joneskendrick2084
    @joneskendrick2084 24 дні тому

    Bill and Joe Gazzaway". There's a couple of certified nice'uns who were completely overmatched v most any of the chief mechanics. Harry Hyde considered them complete morons and would frequently make something obvious, let NASCAR find it, and all the while have the real "gadget" camouflaged somewhere else. Harry was the best.

  • @benrossbach6501
    @benrossbach6501 15 днів тому

    I dont rhi k the greats are or were cheats. They were rule creators.