NASCAR is privately owned. There are many crew members/chiefs have stated they can’t say anything as they are still involved with NASCAR. They are afraid NASCAR would still punish them for things of the past!
I remember arguing with a friend up and down that her favorite race car was cheating like they all do back in the day. She was so passionate and I didn’t know, but I know people, and people cheat at everything if they can!! 😂 It was just part of it. I’m sure they are still pushing the limits in any way they think they can. It made it fun for all!
Motorsport, regardless of the series, is 20% innovation, 80% blowing holes through the rules or trying to hula hoop them. Epic time in racing, feels a bit too strict now, safety obviously is first, but would love more wiggle room.
Extra big oil pan to cut air, a bigger fuel line that holds and extra gallon of gas. An adjustable restricter plate with a hidden cable so you can open that fucker up at the green flag and close it when you slide into victory lane.
i absolutely love hearing these old stories. Me and Dale Je are a year and 2 days apart in age. I was born on 10/12/1975 and I grew up watching NASCAR and grew up in Jonesboro Ga. Close enough to hear the cars on race day at Atlanta Motor Speedway. My neighborhood sat on Hwy 19/41 and remember the race day traffic and people selling tickets on the side of the highway.
I loved racing in the 70-80's. One would never know who was going to win. In todays racing, you have the choice of three team owners for the trophy. The best pure exciting days of NASCAR racing was the 70-early 80's.
You might want to go back and look at the results. There are FAR more cars competing for wins today. For example, there were 7 different winners in 1978 with 4 drivers winning 24 of the 30 races. I’m not saying that racing was worse back then, but the sport is far more competitive today.
@@user-ku1qm9qg2z Exactly! Your useless opinion doesn’t change the fact that you’re wrong. Glad you’re willing to admit that, and not gaslighting your way out of sounding ignorant.
We may or may not of made some molds and made some bolts out of ice and did similar thing on some saturday night roundy round cars but ice cubes in the front springs to make 4" hieght at tech
Gary Nelson is responsible for getting Greg Sacks his only Cup win in 1985 in the Firecracker 400 at Daytona in a car he got from Waddell Wilson. Thats when Bill Elliott was dominating all the super speedways. Waddell even went up to Greg Sacks before the race and said this is how you drive this car. At least that’s what I’ve read and heard on interviews
They need to pass a rule where like after 5 years you can tell how you cheated with no negative impact on you or your team. It would be SO exciting to hear the modern cheating stories that got away with it and Nascar could use that to improve post race checking. Sometimes it's the smartest team that wins 🤪
There is a big difference between cheating and innovation. The buckshot story is cheating - blatant circumvention of the minimum weight rule. The wheel arch clearance story seems to be genuinely, properly clever engineering - if the rulebook says nothing about _minimum_ width, then it behooves a team to build a speedway car that way and minimize air resistance. I'm not omniscient, but whenever stories like these show up I'm more inclined to respect the ones where, at least seemingly, no rule was actually broken. And to be fair to Nelson - one of the men responsible for building the sportscar powerhouse that is Action Express Racing - that wheel arch clearance trick is pretty freaking genius. GGs on that.
Jr. Next you get Geoff bodine on your podcast . Ask him about his rift with dutch hoag. Dutch kicked leester in the modifys . He even raced in the sportsman series race at Daytona 67 an 68 lot of the old timers prob remember him. Prob. Petty childress.
Nascar has no stars everyone in the world knows Max Verstappen. I can’t name five nascar guys. They had stars back in the day. Also when Fernado Alonso crushed Jimmy Johnson in his own car. That was the last stars they had. That era Jr. Tony and such Kevin.
I get cheating to an extent but winning with a legal car should feel better and be more enticing than everybody having a 305 or whatever n i show up with a 454. Or my car is actually 1000Lbs lighter than the next guy and stuff like that.
Dale jr cheated and won with illegal shocks at Talladega and should have not been given the victory ! He knows it and NASCAR let him keep the win because of his name and should have been fined and win trophy taken away ! But NASCAR kissed his butt like they did his daddy’s butt
Do glad Jr gives these guys a place to tell their stories. You can tell he’s excited to tell them
Statue of limitations is up give us some name Gary lol
NASCAR is privately owned. There are many crew members/chiefs have stated they can’t say anything as they are still involved with NASCAR. They are afraid NASCAR would still punish them for things of the past!
This is peak Dale Jr podcast
100% love the bending the rules stories, now days its harder to get away with stuff but you know some are or at least trying ;)
I remember arguing with a friend up and down that her favorite race car was cheating like they all do back in the day. She was so passionate and I didn’t know, but I know people, and people cheat at everything if they can!! 😂 It was just part of it. I’m sure they are still pushing the limits in any way they think they can. It made it fun for all!
Always great interviews , but this Gentleman is my favorite, could listen to him all night!
That spray foam thing is next level.
Ik right! So simple but fkn genius 👌🏽👌🏽
Motorsport, regardless of the series, is 20% innovation, 80% blowing holes through the rules or trying to hula hoop them. Epic time in racing, feels a bit too strict now, safety obviously is first, but would love more wiggle room.
The early 80s were my favorite era of NASCAR.
Gary Nelson Two Time Daytona 500 Championship Crew Chief 1982 Digard Racing And 1986 Hendrick Motorsports Thanks For Uploading
Gary is great to listen to. Could do it all night
Extra big oil pan to cut air, a bigger fuel line that holds and extra gallon of gas. An adjustable restricter plate with a hidden cable so you can open that fucker up at the green flag and close it when you slide into victory lane.
This podcast was very enjoyable love these stories
Gary Nelson, Robert Yates and Bobby Allison were all mechanical geniuses. How did they ever lose?
This is great and thank you for posting Dale Junior.... I love hearing these as well as listening to Larry McReynolds cheating stories. 🥰👍👍👍
JR is the man, thank you!
I love stories like this. I moved to Daytona when i was 9. Im 37 now and i have been upsessed with nascar ever since.
i absolutely love hearing these old stories. Me and Dale Je are a year and 2 days apart in age. I was born on 10/12/1975 and I grew up watching NASCAR and grew up in Jonesboro Ga. Close enough to hear the cars on race day at Atlanta Motor Speedway. My neighborhood sat on Hwy 19/41 and remember the race day traffic and people selling tickets on the side of the highway.
Having a Lead battery case seems like a great idea.
I'm always amazed at how long it took Nascar to figure out to weigh the cars after the race...
These are the best! Please keep the cheating stories coming! I mean innovation stories!
Stapleton has done some good videos about cheating ways too. I’m like you, I love hearing them!!
The best story's nothing like today's bull old timers ❤🇺🇸👌guys have a great week
allegedly.
Ive been waiting to hear a Gary Nelson interview since you started your show, THANK YOU Gary & Dale!!
Gary was literally hired by NASCAR to catch the “creative” teams because they couldn’t catch him errr I mean them
He could catch the little nitrous guy
They knew that the Buick would run faster without the bumper from Talladega the previous year.
"We were taking the lead when that happened" Nice flex!
Just love hearing about the old tales of treachery and underhandedness 😂😂
I loved racing in the 70-80's. One would never know who was going to win. In todays racing, you have the choice of three team owners for the trophy. The best pure exciting days of NASCAR racing was the 70-early 80's.
You might want to go back and look at the results. There are FAR more cars competing for wins today. For example, there were 7 different winners in 1978 with 4 drivers winning 24 of the 30 races. I’m not saying that racing was worse back then, but the sport is far more competitive today.
@@drewcarnes1931 wow 3 owners, very exciting seeing all that beautiful consolidation.
@@user-ku1qm9qg2z12 different drivers, and 6 different teams has won so far this year.
@@TheOfficialRandomGuy despite the pedantry the point still stands babyboy, in both vibe and fact.
@@user-ku1qm9qg2z Exactly! Your useless opinion doesn’t change the fact that you’re wrong.
Glad you’re willing to admit that, and not gaslighting your way out of sounding ignorant.
Hey dale, tell us about crank case check valve vents on your late models
Great interview Jr, appreciate it!
'tween you and me? I pret'near got contracted on for F1 radio in OMG 1974!
We may or may not of made some molds and made some bolts out of ice and did similar thing on some saturday night roundy round cars but ice cubes in the front springs to make 4" hieght at tech
His time as an Official (along with Pemberton) with NASCAR was irony at its best. Wanna catch an "innovator", hire the best to police it
Great stories 👏🇺🇸
It's only cheating if you get caught!
Gary Nelson is responsible for getting Greg Sacks his only Cup win in 1985 in the Firecracker 400 at Daytona in a car he got from Waddell Wilson.
Thats when Bill Elliott was dominating all the super speedways.
Waddell even went up to Greg Sacks before the race and said this is how you drive this car.
At least that’s what I’ve read and heard on interviews
They need to pass a rule where like after 5 years you can tell how you cheated with no negative impact on you or your team. It would be SO exciting to hear the modern cheating stories that got away with it and Nascar could use that to improve post race checking. Sometimes it's the smartest team that wins 🤪
There is a big difference between cheating and innovation.
The buckshot story is cheating - blatant circumvention of the minimum weight rule. The wheel arch clearance story seems to be genuinely, properly clever engineering - if the rulebook says nothing about _minimum_ width, then it behooves a team to build a speedway car that way and minimize air resistance.
I'm not omniscient, but whenever stories like these show up I'm more inclined to respect the ones where, at least seemingly, no rule was actually broken. And to be fair to Nelson - one of the men responsible for building the sportscar powerhouse that is Action Express Racing - that wheel arch clearance trick is pretty freaking genius. GGs on that.
Hahaha that is awesome 👍
Very cool
Jr. Next you get Geoff bodine on your podcast . Ask him about his rift with dutch hoag. Dutch kicked leester in the modifys . He even raced in the sportsman series race at Daytona 67 an
68 lot of the old timers prob remember him. Prob. Petty childress.
He already had Bodine on. You are about 2 years too late.
If I remember right Gary Nelson went to be a NASCAR inspector?
In the past it seems there was nascars rulebook and the garage rulebook. Rule 1 of the latter is build a car smarter than the inspectors
put a high pass filter on everything below 100hz. no excuse for noob audio engineers here. a 90 year old man shouldn't be turning on my 18" subs
When racing was racing.
Rubbing is Racing, but cheating is taking away from the most Talented Drivers!!!
Back when NASCAR racing was great! Unlike this next gen era..
I think Christopher Bell will win this weekend at Indianapolis and the championship in 2024 and that's not a prediction it's a spoiler
If I were a betting man I’d bet on Hamlin. Although I’d rather see reddick or keslowski win.
@@chrisdadigger1018 that's a good pick
Didnt Tom Curley catch Waltrip cheating at the All American SCC race?
*Ain't life real **_though!_*
Nascar has no stars everyone in the world knows Max Verstappen. I can’t name five nascar guys. They had stars back in the day. Also when Fernado Alonso crushed Jimmy Johnson in his own car. That was the last stars they had. That era Jr. Tony and such Kevin.
Who's Max Verstappen? A soccer player?
So basically the best drivers were on teams with the best cheaters
This was when NASCAR was fun, and popular. Now it’s in the toilet
No explaining what the radio is made of (solid lead brick) didn't show us the detailing (up close look) at the radio. Get better Junior.
I get cheating to an extent but winning with a legal car should feel better and be more enticing than everybody having a 305 or whatever n i show up with a 454. Or my car is actually 1000Lbs lighter than the next guy and stuff like that.
"Best cheater wins" has always been part of any racing series.
This guy knows where he is? Why go on a podcast and not say anything about what your brought on to say...and if you don't want to say it, why go on?
Dale jr cheated and won with illegal shocks at Talladega and should have not been given the victory ! He knows it and NASCAR let him keep the win because of his name and should have been fined and win trophy taken away ! But NASCAR kissed his butt like they did his daddy’s butt